--- Log for 14.11.103 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 19 days and 21 hours ago 00.03.59 Join quelsaruk [0] (~bibcentr1@193.136.159.170) 00.04.04 # hi 00.06.04 Quit thedude02 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.08.02 # has anyone here batts with more than 1500 mAh?? 00.26.18 Quit quelsaruk () 00.26.58 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-34-11-50.mia.bellsouth.net) 00.59.39 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@massena-6-82-66-230-87.fbx.proxad.net) 00.59.43 # Hello :) 01.09.16 Quit _aLF ("bye") 01.11.55 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.12.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.22.49 Join k3no_ [0] (~hosted@80.178.44.17.forward.012.net.il) 01.25.02 Join midknight2k3 [0] (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 01.25.08 # hi jet 01.30.39 # hey 01.32.51 Quit k3no (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.33.49 # making a new patch 01.34.32 Join ze [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-70.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 01.34.35 # not that it affects the ZEN USER 01.34.38 # hello ZE 01.34.43 # making a new patch 01.34.44 # not that it affects the ZEN USER 01.34.45 # heh 01.34.47 # hi 01.35.10 # zen users, unite! and be sad! 01.36.05 # how is the zen? 01.36.17 # it's good 01.36.17 # :p 01.36.26 # messed with one a few weeks ago 01.36.27 # borring! 01.36.37 # one guy walked by the other day with one 01.36.43 # i wanted to laugh 01.37.05 Join Empeethree [0] (icechat5@ACBCC561.ipt.aol.com) 01.37.09 # oh great 01.37.29 # oh great 01.38.13 # heh 01.38.16 # midknight, they are ok 01.38.20 # but I do still like archos more 01.38.42 # Jet8810: we know. :) 01.38.53 # lol 01.38.57 # hi Jet 01.39.01 # hey mp3 01.39.09 # its track 01.39.11 # dont be fooled 01.39.20 # haha 01.39.23 # hey tracktheripper 01.39.25 # track: private chat! if you can figure out in icechat 01.39.33 # shut up midknight 01.39.37 # hi Jet whats up 01.39.44 # (icechat5@ACBCC561.ipt.aol.com) 01.39.52 # also a good line about a new adsl line 01.40.10 # track uses jIRC 01.40.12 # track: okkay, i guess you dont want my latest patch preview ajbrec.ajz 01.40.13 # im not on jIRC 01.40.21 # you use icechat you always boast about it 01.40.27 # the only reason you dont is cause its BROKEN 01.41.14 # must you keep lying? 01.41.22 # bull 01.41.33 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.41.33 # * midknight2k3 hits ignore 01.41.38 # ok 01.41.45 # Empeethree!*@* added to ignore list. 01.41.47 # indeed 01.41.49 # ok 01.41.54 # do what you want im not worried 01.42.17 # say all 01.42.28 # should i make the icon for the play button "play" or "pause" 01.42.38 # play sort of blends into the >> 01.42.40 # hmm 01.45.40 # ok 01.45.42 # track 01.45.44 # for your info 01.45.48 # and all else's 01.45.50 # here it is: 01.45.51 # __ 01.45.52 # 19.40.38 Join IceGuest_ [0] (~icechat5@ACBC1D96.ipt.aol.com) 01.45.52 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 01.45.52 # 19.40.58 # hi 01.45.52 # 19.41.39 Nick IceGuest_ is now known as track (~icechat5@ACBC1D96.ipt.aol.com) 01.45.52 *** Alert Mode level 1 01.45.52 # 19.42.23 # hey 01.45.53 *** Alert Mode level 2 01.45.53 # 19.42.27 # hello 01.45.56 # 19.42.36 # installed my very first IRC client today 01.45.58 # 19.43.08 # its the IceChat IRC client 01.46.00 # 19.43.28 # wow ;) 01.46.04 # 19.43.36 # what IRC client u using? 01.46.05 # 19.43.45 # mirc 01.46.07 # 19.43.54 # cool 01.46.11 # 19.44.05 # Icechat has a nicer interface than the jIRC chat 01.46.13 # 19.44.16 # For some reason I get the feeling i was banned from using jIRC 01.46.15 # __ 01.47.04 # whatever you say 01.47.30 # heh 01.47.38 # sigh, can we please end the quarreling? 01.47.51 # its mid thats doing all the argueing 01.47.54 # like he always does 01.48.03 # i'm glad i cannot see any quarrelling 01.48.04 # :) 01.48.07 # ignore works! 01.48.14 # never used it before 01.48.40 # mp3, please, lose it 01.48.45 # and you too midknight 01.49.01 # :-D 01.49.12 # :D 01.49.19 # i can see no reason for him to lose it 01.49.25 # as i cannot see him talking 01.49.43 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.49.43 # * midknight2k3 dances around 01.49.46 # heh 01.49.48 # * Jet8810 slaps him 01.50.21 # why>? 01.50.22 # meany 01.52.53 Quit Empeethree ("IceChat IRC client - Download it at http://www.icechat.net/") 01.53.16 Join Empeethree [0] (icechat5@ACBCC561.ipt.aol.com) 01.53.37 Quit Empeethree (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.54.16 Join Empeethree [0] (~icechat5@ACBCC561.ipt.aol.com) 01.54.39 # not gonna work.. you need to change nick to evade the ignore 01.54.42 # sadly 01.54.51 # that's the way Xchat works 01.55.11 Quit Empeethree (Client Quit) 01.55.19 # try once more 01.55.20 # or: 01.55.28 # X-Chat i mean 01.55.30 # that's the way Xwork chats 01.55.35 # * midknight2k3 hates wrong capitalization 01.55.45 # OR 01.55.54 Join track [0] (~icechat5@ACBCC561.ipt.aol.com) 01.55.55 # thats the chat Xway works 01.55.55 *** Alert Mode OFF 01.56.02 # can you speak track? are you ok? 01.56.05 # are you happy now? 01.56.10 # that's the work Xways chats 01.56.13 # thats unfaor 01.56.16 # ORRRrrrr 01.56.23 # i need to find "ignore by ip" 01.56.35 # you are a horrible person mid 01.56.40 # hmm! "invisible mode" 01.56.43 # what does that do 01.56.45 # just let me try a sec 01.56.45 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.56.54 # cool 01.57.37 # chat's the work Xthat ways 01.57.52 # ok mid where is this patch? 01.57.52 # stop bod 01.57.54 # lol 01.57.56 # :)))) 01.58.03 # BoD[]: got a recorder 01.58.11 # isit good 01.58.15 # i have a new patch want a preview? 01.58.22 # does it have good soldering ? ;) 01.58.28 # track: i could send it, but.. 01.58.31 # yes it does bod 01.58.36 Part mg ("Leaving") 01.58.36 # the players soldering is laughable 01.58.48 # mid do you really have something against me now? 01.58.50 # well my soldering problems were on a recorder 01.58.58 # why bod? 01.59.21 # why ? don't know why ! maybe cause archossuxz! 01.59.22 # tracK; why does it matter? i am so annoying, why would you care? 01.59.28 # BoD[]: it does not :) 01.59.40 # BoD[]: it does not 01.59.41 # wellll they sure suxz when it's about soldering :) 01.59.42 # awesomer 01.59.46 # I LOVE XCHAT 01.59.51 # or: 01.59.58 # I X LOVECHAT 01.59.59 # no they dont 02.00.03 # stop that 02.00.05 # :))) 02.00.08 # ok mid where is this patch? 02.00.13 # its right here 02.00.16 # for my eyes only 02.00.23 # I CHAT XLOVE 02.00.23 # my annoying eyes 02.00.27 # STOP IT 02.00.29 # heh 02.00.41 # ok mid lets stop this petty fighting 02.00.43 # all the time 02.00.44 # :) 02.00.56 # BoD[]: arent you the one who taught me how to compile 02.01.03 # maybe 02.01.08 # don't remember :) 02.01.09 # track: i ask for not much in return 02.01.17 # you did 02.01.19 # i thank you 02.01.27 # ;) 02.01.29 # i am good at programming now! so that i am on the rockbox credits list 02.01.30 # noprob 02.01.34 # well done mid 02.01.34 # * midknight2k3 is happy 02.01.41 # im very very pleased for you mid 02.01.51 # you sure sound like it! very convincing 02.01.53 # lol 02.02.05 # what did you do ? 02.02.10 # to be on the credits 02.02.14 # FM Radio patch 02.02.16 # mid when are you gonna teach me to compile? 02.02.19 # that does what 02.02.26 # track: you WANT to compile? 02.02.34 # its some FM Radio improvements 02.02.42 # ok great! 02.02.51 # i'm proud of you:) 02.03.00 # hehe thx and i am glad you helped me compile 02.03.13 # :-p 02.03.15 # well it's always a pleasure to help 02.03.15 # * midknight2k3 gives thanks to: LinusN, Bod and hardeep 02.03.19 # (y) 02.03.24 # OR 02.03.27 # icechat has emoticons track 02.03.32 # no other irc client does 02.03.33 # well it's always a help to pleasure 02.03.35 # please dont use them 02.03.43 # * midknight2k3 regrets thanking BoD 02.03.57 # :))))) 02.04.29 # OH YES 02.04.33 # yay 02.05.15 # cygwin: 216kb/sec, retrieving. 02.08.25 # anyway i'm going to bed now ! seeyouall 02.08.37 Quit BoD[] ("dodo") 02.08.38 # bye 02.17.35 Quit track (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.18.54 # ze 02.18.55 # around? 02.21.50 # not really 02.22.18 # remember what causes a "PANIC! Stkov Scroll" ? 02.22.35 # nm 02.22.36 # hehe 02.22.43 # stack overflow in scroll thread 02.22.59 # hahahahah 02.23.03 # g wiz wrote: 02.23.03 # > What is the Stoycov scroll and should I panic? (I may 02.23.03 # > have the spelling wrong) 02.23.09 # should i Panic? 02.23.10 # hahaha 02.27.59 # THOSE TWO TIMERS! 02.28.08 # mayeb thats not the right word, but man 02.36.08 Quit dwihno (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.39.15 Quit Jet8810 ("Leaving") 02.41.45 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-30.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 02.53.18 Join yeft [0] (nospin@pcp04986012pcs.benslm01.pa.comcast.net) 02.53.26 # yooo my open source geniuses 02.54.33 # helloooo? 03.04.40 Join thedude02 [0] (Dude@pm637-08.dialip.mich.net) 03.05.05 # YEFT 03.05.06 # what? 03.05.19 # brb 03.05.46 # wait 03.06.04 # you know the stuff they put in schools to block the websites you go to,.... 03.06.10 # is there any free/ open source of that? 03.06.24 # uhm... 03.06.27 # use Googley 03.06.39 # i don't know what to type 03.06.50 # Websense 03.07.01 # websense isnt that pay? 03.07.09 # dunno 03.07.11 # ...i'm the master of getting around websense 03.07.14 # just do a google 03.08.30 # luck? 03.10.25 # HEllo? 03.11.19 # bye!... 03.11.20 # ? 03.11.39 # anybody here...? 03.11.46 # ? 03.11.51 # im here 03.11.52 # any luck? 03.11.56 # none yet 03.11.59 # K 03.12.01 # \ 03.12.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.15.20 # bye 03.15.23 # going to bed 03.16.38 # back yeft 03.16.52 # you know of oen mk? 03.17.05 # oen? 03.17.10 # Bess? 03.17.15 # website blocker? 03.17.58 # yes 03.18.02 # website blocka 03.18.06 # BESS i hate that thing 03.18.08 # dammit 03.18.17 # (cgi proxy like megaproxy) 03.18.23 # me+a schoolmate are leading a revolt :) 03.18.26 # or real proxy if you have a dumb school 03.18.40 # we used a proxy to get around it last year 03.18.41 # revolt is no use, state law 03.18.49 # i mean, getting around it 03.18.51 # not a revolt 03.18.52 # whatever 03.20.09 # you want one then? 03.21.29 # yes 03.22.01 # sec 03.22.04 # i might be able to help 03.22.08 # got your fm rec around right 03.23.08 # umm 03.23.11 # battery is dead 03.23.22 # i put the playmakers theme on repeat during school 03.24.41 # hehe 03.24.43 # TO KILL BESS: 03.24.43 # open the internet properties on your browser and get into the network settings. Under the proxy tab, clear anything under proxy or just turn it off. If you know of an alternative proxy server you should use that insted. BESS IS NOT ON THE HARDDRIVE! Bess is meerly an evil proxy server (somewhere in southern california 03.24.43 # charge it 03.24.52 # we got blocked out 03.24.59 # oh i know what you mean 03.24.59 # believe me we're far into this 03.25.00 # then go to 03.25.06 # https://www.megaproxy.com 03.25.12 # blocked! by bess. 03.25.13 # and don't forget the httpS 03.25.15 # S 03.25.15 # S 03.25.19 # diddnt think of thaT? 03.25.25 # ; ) 03.25.30 # one step ahead of yah' 03.25.47 # oh? 03.26.14 # it wont work 03.26.18 # blocked by bess right 03.29.55 # no it should 03.29.59 # it works against websense 03.33.46 # this is BESS 03.33.48 # not WEBSENSE 03.39.10 Quit thedude02 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.40.09 # oh sorry 03.40.16 # mmmmmmm...you like the site i just find accidentally 03.40.30 # http://www.security.nnov.ru/advisories/content.asp 03.40.42 # the white papers ... 03.43.30 Part yeft 03.48.37 # whats the dimensions of the screen> 03.52.07 # nm 04.11.12 Quit midknight2k3 ("Time to go now...") 04.16.49 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.38.58 Join Naked [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 04.39.11 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 04.44.41 Join o-_-o [0] (~manju@203-195-203-113.now-india.net.in) 04.44.47 # hello 04.49.02 # anybody here who has used pfaedit 05.04.21 Quit k3no_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.12.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.12.42 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@207-237-194-62.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 05.20.25 Join midknight2k3 [0] (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 05.20.35 # anyoen here that can make icons? 05.20.36 # anybody here who has used pfaedit ? 05.20.40 # hehe 05.20.46 # :-) 05.20.47 # thats was both at the same second 05.20.55 # heh 05.21.07 # 05.20.35 # anyoen here that can make icons? 05.21.07 # 05.20.36 # anybody here who has used pfaedit ? 05.21.08 # vlose 05.21.10 # close 05.21.25 # scott666, ze, mt, anyone 05.21.43 # i need a 8 bit or less 7x8 icon of the ON button 05.21.53 # it'd be for a good cause! :) 05.22.17 # mine is for a bad cause ? :-) 05.22.33 # no 05.22.39 # mine is for a better casue :D 05.22.39 # jk :-) 05.22.43 # haha 05.22.45 # what's your cause? 05.23.05 # well I am trying to make a font to save an ancient language from perishing :-) 05.23.18 # do a LANG file 05.23.22 # * midknight2k3 nods 05.23.23 # midknight2k3: are you working on anything for Rockbox? 05.23.29 # elinenbe: yes 05.23.39 # i cant use a 7x8 icon of ON for windows can i? :) 05.24.12 # i'd be eternally in your debt 05.24.20 # just one ON icon 05.24.49 # can you? 05.27.01 # midknight2k3: what are you up to? 05.27.37 # hehe.. a quick screen revampation 05.27.38 # tell ya what 05.27.42 # what model do you have? 05.27.46 # i can send you a ajbrec 05.29.57 # if.. you're.. around... 05.36.58 # around? 05.44.18 # elinenbe, I guess you cannot help? 05.53.26 # * midknight2k3 mutters under his breath :) 06.23.14 Quit midknight2k3 ("Time to go now...") 06.33.55 Quit o-_-o ("Leaving") 07.12.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.18.46 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 07.32.41 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.46.43 Join k3no_ [0] (~hosted@80.178.45.214.forward.012.net.il) 07.51.23 Join dwihno [20] (dwihno@h81172195115.kund.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.06.26 Join nillions [0] (linwaux@c211-28-54-200.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.06.38 # topmail fullversion ? 08.08.37 # anyone have it? 08.11.22 Quit nillions (Client Quit) 08.15.20 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 09.06.35 # morning 09.10.45 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.12.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.14.32 # Good morning! 09.14.42 # ej dwihno 09.14.44 # I've found a bug in RockBox regarding resume. 09.14.53 # do tell :) 09.14.56 # Has it been reported? ;) 09.15.23 # i complained about resume yesterday 09.15.35 # What did you say? 09.15.43 # I say: "det är stabilt, stabilt som fan" 09.17.33 # that resumed when it didnt make sense 09.17.40 # could you translate that ? 09.19.10 # It's stable. Stable as hell. 09.20.19 # dwihno: stabilt som D-Flex 09.27.52 # LinusN: Jag å D-flex ska träna! :) 09.29.36 # dwihno, stable.. but anoying :) 09.55.21 Join track [0] (~icechat5@ACB9154F.ipt.aol.com) 09.55.59 # morning 09.56.52 Part LinusN 10.01.02 Join k3no [0] (~hosted@80.178.37.137.forward.012.net.il) 10.03.45 Quit k3no_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.04.55 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.05.03 # hello LinisN 10.05.11 # yo 10.05.19 # no Empethree anymore? 10.05.32 # because midknight made such a scene about it yesterday 10.06.01 # lol 10.07.41 # damn cliffhangers 10.13.30 Join schuepf [0] (sockd@212.8.217.52) 10.22.54 Quit k3no (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.23.03 Quit track (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.50.37 Join Guest [0] (jirc@t030056.turbonet.com) 10.51.22 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 10.51.35 Join dmohs [0] (jirc@t030056.turbonet.com) 10.52.43 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 10.55.54 # webmind: we changed the STOP resume behaviour even before releasing 2.0, "on popular request" 10.56.07 # LinusN, ah.. bummer 10.56.13 # * webmind dislikes the masses 10.56.19 # they often refuse to make sense :) 10.59.09 Quit scott666 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.59.11 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 10.59.21 # i agree, i'll have to dig further to refresh my memory 11.00.06 # i think many users liked to stop the player and then resume at a later time 11.00.29 # i think that's the reason we introduced the "ask once" option 11.00.54 # but it won't help the users who really mean "stop" when they press STOP :-) 11.02.00 # yes 11.02.14 # and if you want to resume later.. you have a 'pause' butten 11.03.17 # agreed, but "later" may mean "tomorrow" 11.03.31 # so ? 11.03.38 # if you pause it.. it will still timeout 11.03.56 # so you will run out of battery if you pause the unit for that long :-) 11.04.01 # if you care about those few extra seconds lower your timeout value 11.04.05 # no you wont 11.04.21 # the thing will shut it self of 11.04.26 # en logicly then resume 11.04.35 # i know 11.05.11 # it's actually a thing i disliked at the start.. but would make sense with a decent resume :) 11.05.16 # i think the previous behaviour (no resume on stop) made the most sense 11.05.53 # however, it didn't work all that well for Players 11.06.25 # because the resume information wasn't saved until the next disk access 11.07.37 # so the user may turn off the device before the resume info was saved, and the player would still resume when turned off 11.07.43 # on 11.07.45 # wel.. yeah.. bummer. then you'll start a few seconds earlier.. but uhm.. you can save the resume info on pause no ? 11.08.20 # LinusN, you can fix that with ajusting the info on pressing -stop- 11.08.28 # yes, that's how it used to work, if you really wanted it to resume at a certain point, you'd have to pause before shutting off 11.09.26 # i wouldn't mind resume if imidiatly killed the thing though.. but it would be nice to have no resume if you first press stop and then turn it off 11.10.06 # i think we didn't want to spin up the disk only to save the information when stop was pressed 11.10.41 # hm 11.11.12 # one reason for that would have been that the disk write could be interrupted if the stop key was held until the power i cut 11.11.17 # can't you make it optional ? 11.11.19 # is cut 11.11.36 # sure, everything is possible 11.11.39 # but you can make a difference between a power out and a stop press right? 11.11.56 # no 11.12.04 # with powerout you'll never get a release event ? 11.12.16 # i was just about to say that :-) 11.12.24 # heh 11.12.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.12.32 # so we could save the info on a stop release 11.12.37 # yeah 11.13.14 # maybe optional wfor those who dislike the function or who prefer battery life over functionality 11.14.58 # Hey... could I butt in and ask a question? 11.15.08 # i hope so.. 11.16.07 # I have an FM recorder and the "record" feature is crap. That is, I hear the disk spinning no matter what I do... 11.16.35 # Can this be helped with firmware (i.e. modifying Rockbox) at all? 11.16.36 # dmohs: yes, that's because the mic is 2cm from the hard disk 11.16.57 # dmohs: if it could be fixed in the firmware, we would have done that long ago 11.17.07 # but I've heard that it doesn't happen for many people. 11.17.17 # I see. 11.17.33 # Most people don't have problems if they use line-in, or so I read. 11.18.55 # ah, you hear the drive when you use line-in? 11.19.11 # Right. 11.19.43 # I am guessing at this point that I got a lemon. 11.19.45 # that's bad 11.20.33 # do you hear the spinup "as-is", or is it some kind of interference? 11.23.32 # Shit.... I'm an ass... 11.24.01 # LinusN: Which would be the best way to crush the red led bug, once and for all? 11.24.13 # LinusN: Using debug builds or ... ? 11.24.47 # dwihno: send one of the developers a device that exhibits the error, along with a good way of reproducing it 11.25.07 # dmohs: an ass? i didn't say that :-) 11.25.58 # debug builds are only for running gdb with a serial cable 11.27.28 # webmind: reply from Daniel Stenberg on the mailing list: 11.27.31 # I'm definitely FOR agressive resuming. I don't see how this harms anyone (you 11.27.31 # can always say no when you have set to ASK), and it does save my ass many 11.27.31 # times when I hit stop and not shutoff properly. 11.27.31 # I'm not exactly sure what happens otherwise when I have the charger connected 11.27.31 # and I press stop. When I later disconnect the charger and shutoff, I want it 11.27.33 # to resume from where I pressed stop previously (hours ago). 11.27.37 # Any particular reasons you believe this is bad? 11.28.36 # that's what he said 11.28.46 # ah.. 11.29.46 # first off all: the fact that it asks you something at boot is already the anoying thing.. it takes one keypress extra (which is the same as stopping a song, so no real gain there) 11.30.32 # second: i don't mind the resume function if it's shutoff directly.. which is the case when you do it improper (without stopping first) 11.31.00 # direct shutoff is not possible when the charger is connected 11.31.18 # it's not ? 11.31.46 # LinusN: I didn't have it set to line-in in record, which makes me an ass by default - you didn't have to say anything. 11.31.46 # LinusN: I don't understand how I'm supposed to live without my music! :) 11.31.52 # no, it is impossible to shut off when the charger is attached 11.32.10 # dmohs: :-) 11.32.22 Join CptnButtchip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 11.32.28 # dwihno: i wish i could help... 11.32.29 # LinusN, i see.. bummer 11.32.36 # LinusN, i dont see a problem with that though ? 11.32.50 # webmind: explain 11.33.47 Nick CptnButtchip is now known as BlueChip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 11.33.59 # LinusN, well.. if you want to stop temporarily.. you press pause.. if you want to later disconnect it and shutoff.. 11.34.02 # you do so ? 11.34.42 # like daniel said, it "saved his ass" 11.35.01 # which means he forgot that the charger was disconnected 11.35.32 # LinusN, but if you shut it down imidiatly.. it will still resume ? 11.35.55 # btw. i dont think the firmware should fix stupid mistakes 11.36.04 # it's not windows is it? :) 11.36.08 # not if they are stupid 11.36.41 # i could think a 100 mistakes i could make that rockbox doesnt fix 11.36.52 # if the device was shut down immediately, it would resume (with the old behaviour) 11.36.58 # yes 11.37.08 # but not if the charger was attached 11.37.11 # if you press simply stop.. it should do what stop means 11.37.12 # stop 11.37.42 # well true.. 11.37.49 # webmind: perhaps you should list them with numbers next to them and post them for interest 11.37.58 # but if you want to stop and continue.. there is this very usefull button called 'pause' 11.38.00 # Recording via line-in: I get nothing, including the spin-up noise which is good. Is this becuase I am using a crappy non-amped mic? 11.38.32 # yes 11.38.49 # i dont think a stop button was meant for pausing 11.39.10 # and that it doesnt timeout doesnt matter if the charger is connecter... 11.39.48 # Okay. Thank you for taking the time to work with me. 11.39.55 # dmohs: you're welcome 11.41.25 # On another note, I can't believe you guys actually built firmware for this device that completely blows Archos out of the water. Well done. 11.41.56 # seriously... my jaw dropped. 11.42.24 # LinusN, i dont really get why daniel just uses pause 11.42.41 # LinusN, whathe wants is use the stop button as a pause button.. 11.43.48 # no 11.44.00 # Well, as I'm not normally online at this time - are there any techies with time to spare who own a Player and would like to help get the WAV support sorted? 11.45.59 # LinusN, no? 11.46.51 # as i understand it, he didn't use the pause button beause he tried to shut it off with the charger attached 11.47.23 # his argument is "it doesn't harm toi always resume, since all you have to do is say no to the resume question" 11.48.24 # which is the same amount of actions you have to take to stop a song. so it does harm 11.48.51 # LinusN, he tried to shut it off indeed.. but why ? 11.49.03 # if you want to continue later.. use the -pause- button 11.49.17 # because he wanted to shut off? 11.49.30 # i see your point 11.49.33 # then it shouldn't continue? :) 11.49.43 # cool :) 11.49.55 # and i see his point too 11.50.29 # sure i see his point 11.50.35 # it just doesnt make much sense 11.50.51 # if you want to continue later: pause and shutoff 11.50.57 # if you dont: stop and shutoff 11.51.17 # it makes sense 11.52.54 # LinusN, ? 11.53.27 # pause and shutoff doesn't work with the charger attached 11.53.42 # nope.. 11.54.08 # but he should check if it is then 11.54.12 # or just dont shutoff 11.54.29 # if it you don't shutoff.. it'll timeout.. if it has too 11.55.23 # well, many people have a 10min timeout 11.55.41 # why ? 11.56.01 # that really doesnt make sense if you have a resume function 11.56.46 # Bug report: If you press "any key" when being asked about resume and then try to switch to the WPS screen, you get the "press any key"-screen again 11.59.15 # LinusN, the fix for his lack of thinking forces an extra handling on my side soto say 11.59.21 # soto = so to 11.59.34 # and just less logic 12.00.24 # it's like the 'rm' function in linux.. it could ask for every deletion of a file it's gonna do.. but luckily it doesnt.. otherwise i'd be in rsi hell :) 12.03.40 Quit dmohs ("Leaving") 12.25.03 Join thedude02 [0] (Dude@pm476-01.dialip.mich.net) 12.27.02 Join k3no [0] (~hosted@80.178.48.190.forward.012.net.il) 12.30.56 # hi 12.31.33 # webmind: you have a player? 12.31.37 # yes 12.32.19 # on the recorder, the music stops if you press OFF in the file browser, if you are in the root 12.32.31 # (don't ask me why) 12.32.46 # LinusN, lovely 12.33.00 # sorry, you can stop with OFF anywhere 12.33.20 # but only in the root if you have a Player, iirc 12.34.02 # and ? 12.34.12 # I'm getting an CPU error sometimes. using the 31/10 build 12.34.21 # was wondering if whatever bug that was is fixed 12.34.29 # hmm, lunch.. bbl 12.39.19 # lunch... 11:30? early... 12.40.32 # k3no: when do you get it, and what does it say? 12.44.55 Quit thedude02 () 12.47.46 # Spader och Keno! :) 12.47.48 Quit k3no (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.49.11 Join k3no [0] (irc@80.178.44.92.forward.012.net.il) 12.51.11 Part BlueChip 12.54.29 Part LinusN 13.12.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.14.56 Join k3no_ [0] (irc@80.178.44.229.forward.012.net.il) 13.14.56 Quit k3no (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.44.18 Part k3no_ 14.00.16 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 15.04.42 Join edx [0] (fedx@pD9EA9EBC.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.12.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.14.43 Join k3no [0] (abrx@80.178.36.21.forward.012.net.il) 15.47.39 Quit k3no (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.56.40 Join o-_-o [0] (~manju@203-195-203-113.now-india.net.in) 16.56.48 Part o-_-o ("Leaving") 17.02.13 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 17.12.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.29.04 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.48.20 Quit adi|home (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.48.20 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.48.20 Quit [GoE]BENtheTEN (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.48.20 Quit Hes (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.48.20 Quit Arnaud (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.48.20 Quit Schnueff (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.48.20 Quit BoBB (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.48.34 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.48.34 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-30.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 17.48.34 NJoin [GoE]BENtheTEN [0] (~quasi@80.238.199.45) 17.48.34 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 17.49.01 NJoin Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 17.49.01 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 17.49.01 NJoin BoBB [0] (~bob@ip68-106-225-254.ph.ph.cox.net) 17.54.45 Quit Hes (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.54.45 Quit adi|home (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.54.45 Quit [GoE]BENtheTEN (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.55.13 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-30.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 17.55.13 NJoin [GoE]BENtheTEN [0] (~quasi@80.238.199.45) 17.55.13 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 18.12.38 Quit adi|home (Connection timed out) 18.25.48 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.28.33 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-10.216-194-24-55.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 19.05.46 Join edx` [0] (fedx@pD9EAAAB6.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.12.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.00 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 19.20.41 Join _aLF [0] (~alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 19.21.13 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.27.33 Nick edx` is now known as edx (fedx@pD9EAAAB6.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.06.36 Join Dogger [0] (~jimmy@192.156.198.61) 20.24.35 Join DoggerMoore [0] (~jimmy@192.156.198.61) 20.25.06 Quit _aLF (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.41.14 Quit Dogger (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.51.06 Join _aLF [0] (~alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 21.01.41 Quit DoggerMoore ("Client Exiting") 21.06.49 Join cjnr11 [0] (nmpjhb@l01m-58-124.d1.club-internet.fr) 21.07.45 Join thedude02 [0] (Dude@pm483-39.dialip.mich.net) 21.12.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.15.22 Join Cheek [0] (~ben@cc54259-a.assen1.dr.home.nl) 21.22.34 # it sux so much, the dog bit trough the lan cable for the third freakin time }:\ 21.23.04 # put dog repellent on the cable 21.24.48 # or get a wireless fence thing and use it in the house 21.24.53 # put dog outside 21.24.56 # or eat dog 21.24.56 # or get a cable tunnel 21.24.59 # yeah 21.25.04 # what he says too 21.25.47 # i have a cable tunnel, it bit at the point that was still visible outside :| ill eat the dog.. seems normal in korea so why not here :p 21.26.05 # where's here? 21.26.22 # just asking 21.26.25 # netherlands 21.26.31 # ahkay 21.26.44 # so it's 9:27 21.26.53 # for me it's 3:27 21.26.54 # yes, 21 21.26.59 # pm? 21.27.00 # K 21.27.03 # yah PM 21.27.12 # DUH 21.27.15 # sorry 21.27.19 # a, well, i still hate my dog 21.27.38 # then put it to sleep or sell it or give it away 21.27.50 # we work with 24h time ok, and its pretty normal 2 b on at 3 am 21.28.02 # its not mine, we have 2 btw 21.28.05 # OK... 21.28.09 # ah 21.28.13 # ? 21.28.18 # AH 21.28.31 # yeah.. 21.28.37 # YOU have a dog and someone else in your family has one 21.28.52 # and the one that's NOT yours bit the cable 21.29.09 # well here in Michigan 21.29.12 # we... 21.29.18 # don't have a WIRED LAN 21.29.23 # we have 802.11b 21.29.41 # which only works sometimes, and then when you're lucky. 21.30.00 # eniweis 21.30.01 # baui 21.30.04 # if we had a wired lan the dog will rip that too.. its great :\ 21.30.13 Quit thedude02 () 21.31.39 # who calls himself thedude anyway ..... 21.44.52 # yeah, guessed so 21.46.42 Quit adi|home (Operation timed out) 21.48.03 # anybody has a AV300? 21.55.12 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 22.18.41 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-25-10.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 22.58.42 Join k3no [0] (gsxt@80.178.44.81.forward.012.net.il) 23.06.00 Join LoKQo [0] (NiCo@OL172-92.fibertel.com.ar) 23.06.24 # duh 23.06.35 # this sucks.... 23.06.44 # what sux? 23.06.49 # This 23.06.58 # yeah 23.07.01 # lol 23.07.13 # got an AV300? 23.07.24 # what the hell is that 23.07.48 # a PVP 23.07.54 # Oh my god 23.08.04 Quit LoKQo (Client Quit) 23.08.15 # ah, yes, the av300 23.09.35 # got 1? 23.10.19 # no. saw 1 on the archos website 23.10.28 # I'm not convinced by the need of it 23.12.11 # its great, if you travel a lot, or have lots of divx/xvid, or just need to record, listen to music, digital output, enz :) 23.12.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.12.44 # to bad the company is shit 23.12.49 Join Guest [0] (jirc@APuteaux-105-1-1-202.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.12.57 # hello 23.13.16 Nick Guest is now known as gougle (jirc@APuteaux-105-1-1-202.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.13.25 # how are you ? 23.14.29 # allo ? 23.14.35 # there is someone ? 23.14.37 # im fine 23.14.42 # is the company so shit ? 23.14.58 # could i ask question , 23.15.00 # ? 23.15.10 # yes, pretty much, except for the hardware they make 23.15.19 # or better, put together :) 23.15.46 # i have flash my recorder, it works. Can i use newest OS ? 23.17.32 # can you read me ? 23.17.50 # yes 23.17.58 # ok :) 23.18.09 # Cheek: develop. you're not telling me why it's shit :) 23.18.10 # so , could you answer my quesiton ? 23.18.41 # gougle: no :-) 23.18.51 # fine :) 23.19.06 # I do not know the answer, so it'd be pretty hard for me to give it to you 23.19.06 # :) 23.19.16 # ok 23.19.26 # anyone here have flash is recorder ? 23.20.09 # I don't know what you want by flashing, but just putting the archos.mod file at the root of the beast does it fine, whatever the firmware 23.20.58 # check there : http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html, you can flash the rom to speed up the boot sequence 23.21.23 # and it works :) i boot in 4 secondes 23.22.15 # aaaaaaaaaaaah, this thing 23.22.24 # doesn't work on my studio 10, so haven't tried 23.22.38 # oh sorry 23.22.40 # well, the support is BAD, the distribution is mostly BAD, the prices for Europe are couple of 100 dollars higher as in the US, and most of all the firmware is BAD, tons of stuff, i really dont understand how such a company can make this hardware, maybe thats the only good guy(s) in the company 23.22.43 # anyone here ? 23.23.03 # em, yeha 23.23.22 # Cheek: or they wanted to push out hardware product, and let open src progs do it better 23.23.30 # have you flash your arhcos cheek ? 23.23.35 # haha, thats a good one 23.23.47 # didnt you read about avOS? 23.24.25 # Cheek: no 23.24.37 # archos is treathning a open-source firmware for the AV300 with legal actions if they bring something out 23.24.57 # Cheek: you know, since I bought my studio, I used rockbox all the time, and haven't really looked back at archos 23.24.58 # like a packer/unpacker for the firmware 23.24.58 # oh ? 23.25.24 # they changed their politic ? 23.25.44 # i dont know, seems like it 23.25.58 # god 23.26.13 # archos never supported OSS 23.26.30 # i think they're making a AV500 for next CES and have the same hardware but GOOD firmware and let people buy it 23.26.42 # have a good nicht ! tcho 23.26.42 Quit gougle ("Leaving") 23.26.45 # no, thats true, but they didnt sue before 23.26.56 # or alike 23.27.56 # my guess would be that at the beginning they didnt think rockbox would get far, but now that it has they don't want it to happen again to their AVx00 series 23.28.00 # OR its just they cant do anything to rockbox because of the country they're in 23.28.29 # i thought archos was based in france though 23.28.38 # it is, afaik 23.28.54 # yes, true, why? 23.29.22 # but still, why? whats wrong with Rockbox? 23.29.32 # did hacking rockbox involved reverse engineering anything ? 23.29.39 # it just seemed odd that a europe based country could sue someone in europe, but could in the US 23.29.47 # yeah 23.29.51 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.29.52 # but none of the code was used 23.30.11 # they just looked at how things worked 23.30.55 # true 23.31.14 # too bad dogger isnt on, we could ask him what exactly he did 23.31.17 # as i see it, they don't have a case 23.31.19 # well, rockbox is swedisch as i read, and laws are different there, avOS dogger is from the UK and goes to US regularly 23.31.31 # and so he could fall under DMCA 23.31.33 # too bad. 23.32.17 # dogger will hear from the EFF soon i hope 23.32.38 # we shouldve posted this to /. 23.33.05 # he wants to try the peacful way first 23.34.18 Quit cjnr11 () 23.36.17 # i wont call archos peaceful :\ they already send him the laws they think he broke .. 23.37.46 # i agree with you 23.37.47 # Cheek: any pointer/url ? 23.40.18 # well, thats what he told in #avos yesterday and later in his post on the archosmultimedia group 23.40.28 # about the laws they think he broke 23.41.29 # and he broke his archos to by putting code on it, guess it was a pretty bad day for him 23.41.34 # too 23.42.12 # ouhc