--- Log for 16.12.103 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 2 days and 10 hours ago 00.02.45 Join pokerjoker [0] (new_user@24-151-186-101.chartertn.net) 00.02.54 # hey dudes 00.03.13 # warez the party 00.05.41 # im downloading linux 00.07.46 # i love you guys. 00.09.51 Quit pokerjoker () 00.15.59 Quit track ("Leaving") 00.16.46 Join Dogger [0] (~jimmy@cpc1-colc1-5-0-cust124.colc.cable.ntl.com) 00.22.33 Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.243.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 00.23.08 # or.... 00.23.30 # i could get a used archos on ebay later 00.23.34 # without fm 00.23.51 # so i can play with rockbox :) 00.28.02 Quit AciD ("www.cpm-fr.com") 00.41.04 Quit _aLF ("bye") 00.48.52 Join baz_ [0] (~baz@modem-1982.python.dialup.pol.co.uk) 00.51.23 # http://www.arm.com/pdfs/DDI0229A_720T_R4.pdf 00.51.37 # http://www.arm.com/pdfs/DDI0008E_arm740t.zip 00.51.57 # oops ignore the 2nd 00.52.15 # the arm720t is the heart of the philips saa7750 00.52.56 # the iriver ifp590t has 16mbit nor-flash and 64mbit sdram 00.53.18 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@AC8424BD.ipt.aol.com) 00.53.51 # i wonder if it can load code from the media flash? 00.56.41 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.58.40 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBA9370.ipt.aol.com) 01.00.09 # ok 01.00.20 # i just read the arm7 is 'von neumann architecture, not harvard' 01.00.50 # and since the 590t can read/write to flash, it should be possible to store/load programs 01.01.27 # add to this: there is a linux for the arm720T 01.01.57 # http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ 01.01.59 # wwooo 01.02.02 # hi track 01.02.06 Quit edx () 01.02.06 # and diddystar5 01.02.15 # hi 01.02.35 # you guys know anything about rockbox? 01.02.40 # i do 01.02.43 # like how it was made? 01.02.46 # i know alot infact 01.02.55 # uhh in c 01.03.30 # how did you learn to control the subsystems (dsp, memory etc) 01.04.15 # i'm curious if rockbox could be ported to other devices 01.04.18 # i dont know that much, but since everything has been writen, you just use api stuff 01.04.27 # it has, the neo 35 01.04.40 # (or atleast it's in development) 01.05.45 # what cpu? 01.05.53 Quit DJBaz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.06.00 Join Guest42 [0] (~jirc@81-86-114-198.dsl.pipex.com) 01.06.20 # it has a sh1 running at 12mhz 01.06.42 # no its a pentium 4 running at 3.5 Ghz 01.10.22 # that's pretty cool 01.10.38 # i'm still agonizing over the iriver vs archos decision 01.10.50 # archos (just for the 20 gi) 01.10.55 # *gb 01.10.59 # maybe both 01.11.00 # hah 01.11.26 # keychain mp3 for to-go, and jukebox for car or special occasions 01.12.06 # i like that the rockbox site has pictures of dissassembly - looks like the QC problems are do-it-yourself fixes 01.12.13 # (battery mount, cold solder points) 01.12.25 # i havent had any problems with those 01.12.35 # do you have the fm model? 01.12.47 # no, i have a recorder 20 01.13.24 # what cpu is that? 01.13.35 # the same sh1 01.15.24 Ctcp Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 55 minutes and 6 seconds at the last flood 01.15.24 # * zYgoat checks ebay 01.15.51 # the recorder 20 iss probly the best unit 01.17.20 Quit Guest42 ("Leaving") 01.17.54 # a recorder 6 has same hardware just different drive? 01.18.16 # yes 01.18.37 # but you will most liely fill the 6 gigs very fast 01.18.42 # *likly 01.19.20 # well it's just for the car - wouldn't hold much of my collection anyway :) 01.19.42 # ah 150 for a 20 GB 01.19.53 # the auction will probably push it up to 180 01.20.05 # which is funny because amazon is blowing-out the 20 FM for 199 euro 01.20.37 # which is a very good price for germany 01.21.01 # max mp3 encode on archos is 128kb/s cbr, yes? 01.21.12 # no its 160kbs vbr 01.21.20 # cool 01.21.49 # no 01.21.59 # 360kbs 01.22.08 # (or close to that) 01.22.17 # i have only seen docs stating 128 01.22.29 # the nex ia can only do 64kb/s 01.22.31 # thats the "recommended" 01.22.43 # excellent 01.22.45 # i encode all my stuff at 192 cbr 01.23.05 # i think 192 is the best sounding, and the best size 01.23.12 # 160-224 vbr here 01.24.32 # is it possible for the archos to load programs from the drive? 01.24.45 # or does all code need to be in the non-volatile ram? 01.25.09 # me 2 diddystar 01.25.12 # 192kbs CBR 01.25.14 # is very good 01.25.45 # depends, if you flash, then it goes to a special flash mem, if not, it goes to the 2mb buffer 01.26.51 # so it is possible to load and execute a program that is stored exclusively on the drive 01.27.29 # i need to get an archos just to see how this works :) 01.27.50 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/0439.shtml <=- another joke? 01.27.53 # rofl 01.27.59 # it has to be heh 01.28.15 Quit track ("Leaving") 01.29.24 # aha 01.29.30 # "Copy the contained.rock plugin to .rockbox/rocks " 01.29.49 # that sounds legit 01.30.07 # very cool, so there is hope the 590t could also do this 01.30.36 # have you guys done coding for rockbox? 01.31.53 # i have 01.32.32 # i made the vu meter 01.32.57 # cool :) 01.33.30 # to draw you just write directly to a memory region? 01.33.40 # or is there some kind of drawing library? 01.33.45 # what? 01.33.59 # do you mean draw something to the screen? 01.34.02 # ya 01.34.44 # you use API funcs like lcd_draw_pixle, lcd_draw_line, etc... 01.34.51 # k 01.35.00 # has anyone got any screenshots of the 'rockbox video' thing ive heard... i left my usb cable at college and im curious to waht it may look like? 01.35.15 # i have some from midkngiht2k3 01.35.21 # want to see those? 01.35.43 # on the archos? 01.35.47 # if u want 01.36.25 # sorry that it is slow... 01.36.31 # this is an actual screenshot? 01.36.34 # thats ok, im on dialup 01.37.15 # there are 7 pics in that 01.37.22 # kk 01.39.12 # i wish i had my usb cable if it isnt fake 01.39.13 # heh 01.39.42 # its not fake 01.40.02 # is it the same quality for jukebox recorder? 01.40.07 # yes 01.40.10 # not the fm one 01.40.10 # nice 01.40.14 # they have the same screen 01.40.22 # i like pic #4 01.40.25 # thats quite good 01.40.48 # will there be videos that play the video and audio at the same time? 01.40.55 # a post said about it 01.41.04 # im all excited, i want my usb cable back :D 01.41.42 # im not sure, that is possible though 01.41.50 # how do ya make ur own 'videos' 01.41.50 # ? 01.42.31 # there is a tool to do that 01.42.48 # cool 01.43.01 # runs only in linux? :) 01.43.07 # but first you need to have your video in gray scale, then i think you run the program, andit makes the file rockbox can run 01.43.28 # ah coo 01.43.29 # cool 01.43.34 # no, its for windows, but im sure wine for linux will be able to run it 01.43.41 # kk 01.43.48 Quit zYgoat (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.43.49 # if not ill jst open up vmware 01.43.50 # :) 01.44.20 # so whats 4.jpg of? 01.44.26 # a porn vid? hehe 01.44.31 # i need a pernament linux, knoppix just dosent "cut the cake" anymore for me 01.44.44 # lol, its a part of the doom3 demo 01.44.49 # heh 01.44.56 # use erm gentoo 01.45.17 # i was thinking either debian, mandrake, or maybe redhat 01.45.21 # just cant decide 01.45.29 # i would recommend gentoo 01.45.31 # nice n easy 01.45.35 # but fast 01.45.46 # i have all of em 01.46.02 # i have created my own distro from scratch 01.46.06 # but prefer gentoo 01.46.22 # im looking at screenshots of gentoo now 01.46.30 # hehe 01.46.37 # all linux os's look the same 01.46.46 # jst different themes heh 01.47.09 # cool 01.47.22 # have you tried crossover office? 01.47.27 # no 01.47.34 # i either use kwrite or openoffice 01.47.52 # it runs ms office on linux 01.47.55 # wish wine cant do 01.48.00 # *witch 01.48.07 # lol 01.48.31 # i like the idea of openoffice, but it just dosent have all the stuff ms office has yet 01.48.39 # so the videos, what sorta quality r they, do they blur alot every frame? 01.48.42 # yeah 01.48.53 # but it does have the pdf reader, i like that 01.49.10 # :) 01.50.14 # i bet lots of kids will use this for porn 01.50.44 # what? 01.50.59 # the rockbox video? 01.51.01 # the 'video' feature 01.51.17 # yeah 01.51.35 # lol it would suck on greyscale 01.51.55 # lol yeah 01.52.03 # but kids would be like woah! 01.52.08 # lol 01.52.33 # infact, whats the battery consumtion like with this? 01.53.01 # i have no idea 01.53.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.53.14 # if you play video strait, im sure it would be high 01.53.42 # yeah 01.56.06 # http://www.gentoo.org/images/shots/edon-tux.png <- that is a sweet desktop! 01.56.12 # i just wonder what rockbox will look like now 01.56.42 # whats your current version? 01.56.53 # 2.1 01.57.23 # mostly the same, except for the lpaylist viewer 01.57.37 # gotta go 01.57.40 Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") 01.57.40 # see you 01.57.46 # cya 01.57.50 Join zYgoat [0] (~zygoat@pD9E275C0.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.57.50 # thx for the screenshots 01.57.58 # welcome 01.57.59 # bye 01.58.08 Quit diddystar5 ("Bye") 01.58.09 # bye 02.07.30 Quit baz_ ("Leaving") 02.17.53 Quit Sebulba02 (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.17.53 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.17.53 Quit webmind (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.17.53 Quit earHertz_ (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.17.53 Quit adi|home (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.17.53 Quit mbr (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.17.53 Quit Hadaka (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.18.15 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.18.15 NJoin Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.243.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 02.18.15 NJoin webmind [0] (~cme2@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 02.18.15 NJoin earHertz_ [0] (~chatzilla@pool-141-156-135-224.res.east.verizon.net) 02.18.15 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-163.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 02.18.15 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 02.18.15 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 02.28.15 Quit Arnaud (Remote closed the connection) 02.29.01 Quit mbr (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.29.01 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.29.01 Quit adi|home (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.29.01 Quit earHertz_ (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.29.01 Quit webmind (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.29.01 Quit Sebulba02 (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.29.01 Quit Hadaka (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.29.57 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.29.57 NJoin Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.243.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 02.29.57 NJoin webmind [0] (~cme2@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 02.29.57 NJoin earHertz_ [0] (~chatzilla@pool-141-156-135-224.res.east.verizon.net) 02.29.57 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-163.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 02.29.57 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 02.29.57 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 02.38.19 # <[AFX]Masskiller> wow @ http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/0541.shtml 02.38.30 # <[AFX]Masskiller> er 02.38.30 # <[AFX]Masskiller> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/0439.shtml 03.48.15 Quit Jet8810 ("Leaving") 03.53.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.14.50 Quit dsg (Remote closed the connection) 05.20.59 Join pookyhead34 [0] (~jirc@cs242727-183.austin.rr.com) 05.24.14 # hi... i'm using the v2.1 firmware (flashed) on my recorder 20... i use 2100mah NiMH batteries -- and i get a "?" on the battery meter. any ideas? (this didn't happen before v2.1) 05.26.21 Quit pookyhead34 ("Leaving") 05.31.46 # maybe that should be in the FAQ? 05.53.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.25.13 # how disheartening 06.25.24 # I just got an archos av120 for my bday 06.25.46 # which is that? 06.26.02 # records mp3's and divx video 06.26.08 # and that means, no rockbox 06.26.21 # and that means stupid crap I have to deal with 06.26.24 # like not resuming 06.26.28 # wtf 06.26.32 # heh 06.26.36 # why?! 06.26.42 # why can't they just resume!?! 06.26.56 # every year I get some stupid player that doesn't resume 06.27.00 # you could always try to write your own firmware.. 06.27.08 # and every year I leave that piece of shit somewhere to rot 06.27.32 # even worse, the one I actually got for my bday was dead on arrival 06.27.42 # so, when I get it, get an extended warranty 06.27.46 # I find out there's no rockbox 06.27.55 # and stupid features 06.34.27 Quit BoBB (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.37.07 Join BoBB [0] (~bob@ip68-106-225-254.ph.ph.cox.net) 06.37.27 Join dsg [0] (~david@pasky.xs4all.nl) 07.12.17 # I can't find a resume function at all =( 07.12.24 # any hacks for the firmware out there? 07.37.08 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 07.41.35 # I can't keep this 07.41.44 # I am returning it 07.44.05 # I hope I get my extended warranty money back 07.53.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.23.20 # wow, an archos return 08.23.52 # i think the recorder fm 20 is discontinued 08.24.13 # archos' line seems to be "keep a moving target" 08.24.32 # "keep releasing new stuff with features - that way we don't have the old headaches" 08.24.55 # which is ok i guess - possibly only way for them to survive as a company 08.25.39 # what surprises me, is after rockbox clearly blows their firmware out of the water -that they haven't just adopted rockbox 08.26.48 # well it's not too surprising, due to legal issues and "not invented here" syndrome 08.35.30 Quit Arnaud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.39.23 Join oxygen77 [0] (~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net) 09.04.02 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 09.11.29 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 09.22.16 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@atmedia.cs.uni-sb.de) 09.53.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.44.36 Quit earHertz_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.46 [Mozilla rv:1.5/0]") 10.58.17 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 11.05.47 Quit Arnaud (Remote closed the connection) 11.17.49 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBD27EE.ipt.aol.com) 11.19.09 # morning 11.42.58 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@p50834FDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.43.20 # ll 11.44.17 # a question about the archos studio player and a nforce 2 motherboard 11.45.17 Quit track ("Leaving") 11.46.19 # when i installed the usb drivers from archos, i got an irql_.... mistake, does this rockboxx fix? 11.47.58 # how can i fix it?? 11.49.49 # well 11.49.58 # It's not a rockbox issue 11.50.27 # Unless the irq thing happened on your archos while running rockbox ;) 11.51.04 # i read that a new firmware could fix it 11.52.43 # hm 11.52.54 # does the irq thing occur on your archos or on the pc? 11.53.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.53.32 # it occurs on my pc 11.54.25 # i installed the archos usb-drivers, connect my archos to my pc, turned it on....blue screen 11.55.54 # it's called irql_less_or_equal... 12.04.38 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 12.15.16 Join kurzhaarrocker [200] (~Phil@66.30.204.212.sr1.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) 12.40.29 Join khrocker [200] (~Phil@31.16.204.212.sr1.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) 12.40.48 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.40.56 Part khrocker 13.19.14 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 13.53.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.01.51 Quit mbr ("leaving") 14.03.41 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stz-softwaretechnik.com) 14.09.57 Quit Sebulba02 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.47.37 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-380.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk) 15.00.31 Quit DJBaz ("Leaving") 15.36.15 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61de4.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 15.53.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.54.32 Quit [AFX]Masskiller (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.02.08 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBDF4CB.ipt.aol.com) 16.25.25 # hi 16.26.01 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 16.56.51 Quit track ("Leaving") 17.16.10 Quit Arnaud (Remote closed the connection) 17.20.23 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.24.43 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.27.12 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-224-55.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.35.23 Quit matsl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.38.23 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 17.39.02 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.46.28 # well i am making my first report on the iriver ifp590t 256MB mp3-encoding FM tuner/mp3 player 17.50.16 Quit Arnaud (Remote closed the connection) 17.53.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.00.28 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-2707.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk) 18.06.30 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 18.08.13 # microphone/dictaphone functon very good. picked out my voice very well in a reverberant room 18.08.14 Join _aLF [0] (~alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 18.08.21 # microphone was better than expected 18.08.49 # menu layout is ok i guess - i'd prefer to create my own menus of course 18.09.15 # fm reception was the most interesting to me 18.09.38 # because of the difficulty of combining sensitive FM recievers with digital circuitry (a 70 mhz ARM7 CPU etc) 18.10.01 # i live in germany - many tightly packed stations - mostly fair signal strength 18.10.04 # but rejection is key 18.10.49 # well, in the first floor of my house - reception was good. picked up about 20 listenable stations and about 5 recordable ones 18.11.10 # then i changed headphones - uh oh - reception characteristics changed massively 18.11.16 # plug into stereo - massive changes again 18.11.27 # move around - interference, splotching sounds 18.11.44 # move into car - plug into stereo, try reception 18.11.45 Quit DJBaz ("Leaving") 18.11.49 # NO recordable stations 18.11.59 # (car chassis blocks many signals) 18.52.49 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-2707.leopard.dialup.pol.co.uk) 18.58.43 Quit oxygen77 ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/7]") 19.07.29 Quit DJBaz ("Leaving") 19.10.03 Quit Arnaud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.10.12 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 19.35.34 Join track [0] (jirc@ACB9DB6B.ipt.aol.com) 19.35.40 # hello 19.36.46 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-1526.orangutan.dialup.pol.co.uk) 19.48.50 # moo 19.53.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.01.19 # hello 20.01.25 # i think goats bleat not moo 20.20.57 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-209-11-177.mia.bellsouth.net) 20.23.26 Join oxygen77 [0] (~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net) 20.27.28 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA5CC.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.28.13 Quit MT ("changing servers") 20.35.31 Join MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 20.37.56 Quit DJBaz ("Leaving") 20.54.44 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it") 21.02.23 # hi 21.06.47 # moo 21.06.51 # yeah 21.06.53 # or baah 21.11.44 Join elinenbe_ [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-224-55.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 21.11.45 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.11.51 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (elinenbe_@207-237-224-55.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 21.18.25 Join Dogger [0] (~jimmy@cpc1-colc1-5-0-cust124.colc.cable.ntl.com) 21.40.03 Join Guest75620 [0] (Mine78@host220-161.pool62211.interbusiness.it) 21.40.13 # GREAT MOVIES !!! INCREDIBLE !!!! 21.40.42 # Only a problem: the UCL for recorder says "Incompatible version" on my recorder V2 software V1 hardware 21.40.47 # can someone help ? 21.40.53 # The .ajz works perfectly 21.49.14 # there IS a resume function on the AV120 21.49.38 # with the latest firmware, pause, then tap off, then it asks if you wanna bookmark it... when you turn it off, then turn back on, it asks if you wanna resume... yay 21.49.40 Quit track (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.52.32 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-70-114.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.53.09 Quit uiibaa ("Those who are willing to trade civil liberties for temporary security, deserve neither - That guy on the bill") 21.53.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.53.59 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@1-1-3-36a.sk.sth.bostream.se) 21.57.23 Quit Schnueff ("brb") 22.04.00 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-1396.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk) 22.04.00 Quit DJBaz (Client Quit) 22.06.17 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-12/0517.shtml 22.06.19 # CLEVER! 22.06.35 # nice, huh? 22.06.52 # nice hack with the greyscales 22.06.58 # yeah 22.07.31 # i just had an idea 22.07.41 # you could use that trick to do greyscale for static images too 22.07.56 # anybody getone of those high tech, new archos multimedia big screen models? 22.07.57 # he already does that 22.07.57 # a waste of cpu of course 22.08.00 # but that's what cycles are for 22.08.02 # oh :/ 22.08.14 # try the "lena" file. it looks great. 22.08.27 # i still need to pick-up an archos 22.08.35 # ah :) 22.08.36 # i was hoping to get a used 6GB and drop in a bigger drive 22.09.08 # those early units only have usb1.1 though 22.09.09 # or perhaps even a 'broken' one that just has a bent battery clip or a cold solder joint 22.09.28 # well usb 2.0 is in real life only a few times faster 22.09.39 # well, it makes a HUGE difference zygoat 22.09.44 # 13 hours vs. one hour 22.09.59 # more or less is what ive got from it 22.10.05 # wow that's more than i read 22.10.07 # thx for the info 22.10.12 # yeah, it's clearly worth it i'd say. 22.10.21 # np, of course YMMV 22.10.31 # yea, I now have a Jukebox Zen though 22.10.31 Join beerli [0] (beerli@h081217042249.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) 22.10.36 # andf its OK, but archos was better 22.10.41 # amazon.de is blowing-out archos FM jukebox 20s for only 199 euro 22.10.46 # i don't get 13x speedup, but 6-8x is still enough to make a big difference 22.11.01 # well maybe it is becasue my copmuter is old...4 years 22.11.10 # and the 4 year old usb 1.1 into mobo ports are just slow 22.11.13 # they're even charging more for the archos recorder 22.11.21 # hello everyone. I'm intending to buy a v2 recorder. but I'm concerned about the battery 22.11.34 # any experience? 22.11.36 # beerli: then try to get a v1 22.11.57 # haha 22.12.18 # v2 is built in and v1 battery is echangeable? 22.12.25 # * zYgoat is away: is grazing elsewhere 22.12.28 # and: what's so funny:) 22.12.30 # Zagor, out of curiosity, how often did you (do you?) use MP3 player? 22.12.44 # nothing beerli :) 22.12.44 # i use it for 4-8 hours every day 22.12.48 # wow 22.13.03 # beerli, I say get the v2 anyway...its rechargable...and lasts awhile 22.13.09 # beerli: yes, that's correct. v1 is NiMH AA and v2 is LiIon special 22.13.09 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-1396.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk) 22.13.18 # see, I have a Pocket PC also 22.13.21 # and thats for daily listening 22.13.28 # can I exchange the special built in thing qwhen it's fucked after a time? 22.13.31 # so mp3 is only for long trips, which is why I am not too picky as to which one I get 22.13.43 # Jet8810: how much storage do you have on your pocket pc thingy? 22.13.46 # beerli, it can be taken out rather easily, dont see why you couldnt get a battery off ebay or something 22.13.51 # Zagor, 1gb CF card 22.13.53 # :-D 22.13.54 # you know these things happen and I heared bad things (ipot issue) 22.14.10 # that combined with WMA or OGG is enough to at least have a decent size batch on there 22.14.16 # Jet8810: well, i can't live without my entire collection so I have a 80gig disk in my archos :) 22.14.24 # great! thank you guys for information. 22.14.37 # haha Zagor 22.14.39 # guess I'll be using rockbox shortly 22.14.45 # beerli: welcome :) 22.14.47 # my entire collection is 20gb, but there is maybe 1.5 gigs that I listen to regularly 22.16.00 Quit DJBaz (Client Quit) 22.16.02 # i gave up batch listening when I got my first archos. no more choosing which music to bring! 22.16.32 # Zagor: can the 6 GB be upgraded that high? 22.16.37 # yes 22.16.44 # man 22.16.50 # it's a moral imperative now 22.16.56 # this is the total hacker jukebox 22.17.13 # is a ram-increase doable? 2MB is really low 22.17.15 # true Zagor 22.17.37 Join xam [0] (xam@bucephalas.ipv6.damnyou.org) 22.17.41 # but I will bring ONE device with me...not an mp3 and PDA...too much junk, and as fun as music is, PDA is productive :) 22.17.49 # i hope i didn't ask something 22.17.53 # wrong 22.18.08 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-1396.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk) 22.18.11 # heh 22.18.13 Quit DJBaz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.18.14 # not you wrong jet 22.18.17 # me wrong zygoat 22.18.25 # agree on pda 22.18.32 # i almost bought a zaurus for an mp3 player 22.18.33 # heh 22.18.35 # but i want to record 22.18.39 # yea 22.18.43 # recording is way up there for me 22.18.48 # if you need heavy duty MP3s, then MP3 player is very important 22.19.08 # if you need organization, and a daily tools, PDA is important 22.19.20 Join Cheek [0] (~alberto@cc54259-a.assen1.dr.home.nl) 22.19.22 # only reason i'd buy a pda is for school and games 22.20.18 # i'd like to know how ppl got started developing rockbox 22.20.53 Quit beerli ("leaving") 22.20.56 # zYgoat: yes you can increase the ram. there's a documented 8MB mod on the rockbox site. but you don't gain as much as you'd think. 22.21.14 # also it's a quite difficult mod 22.22.48 # zYgoat: how do you mean "how ppl got started"? we cracked the scrambling, then wrote our own firmware. what other ways are there? ;) 22.22.56 # lol 22.23.04 # * xam has the ram at home, but I'm too scared to do smd soldering ... I'm crap in 'normal' soldering, and I'd mess it up - guaranteed! 22.23.57 # yeah, if you're not showing off your soldering skills to your friends, you're probably not up for the ram mod. 22.24.04 # i sure aint 22.24.59 # haa 22.25.08 # i thought you did that mod! 22.25.15 # no 22.25.22 # ah ok 22.25.22 # see 22.25.25 # im the person who would try to do it 22.25.29 # first time soldering 22.25.32 # and mess it up, of course 22.26.19 # :) 22.26.24 # mmm 22.26.34 # :) 22.26.35 # my friend messed up his ps2 while trying to install the mod chip ... 22.27.34 # one should practice soldering on cheap materials 22.28.50 # heh 22.31.15 # this is actually quite a funny story: he got a mod chip, and was frustrated that he had to solder 18 wires (directly on the chip/motherboard). So he got an 2nd mod (with an extra circuit board), because they advertized that you just have to solder 9 wires at easy spots ... they just forget to mention that you have to solder the mod chip onto this extra curcuit board that requires additional 26 soldering steps :-P 22.32.30 # at one stage his soldering iron 'slipped' and he burned some transistor on the motherboard ... 22.33.21 # best soldering i've done was repairing a cracked single-layer circuit board - never touched a cpu 22.33.28 Quit oxygen77 ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/7]") 22.33.44 # xam: did he have a fine-tip soldering iron/gun? 22.33.52 # i like those quick-heating ones 22.33.59 # easier to control the heat (for me) 22.34.31 # for the first mod: no, for the 2nd mod: yes, but he 'slipped' while trying the 2nd mod 22.36.08 # zYgoat: I have to agree that it's easier with the fine-tip, but you should have a soldering iron where you can regulate the heat (at the transformer) 22.36.10 # bummer for him 22.36.31 # zYgoat: it's lying around now for about a year 22.37.22 # there is a shop in UK (I'm here in Ireland) where they'll fix it for about $85 22.37.23 # naive question: 22.37.26 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 22.37.47 # was rockbox first developed for an archos emulator? 22.38.35 # the most interesting thing about rockbox is that they implemented an archos emulator in the first place ... 22.38.39 # no, straight on the hardware 22.38.40 # IMHO 22.38.58 # we didn't... 22.39.22 # * zYgoat wants to get into embedded systems 22.39.23 # we have UI simulators, but they only do the user interface not the whole archos 22.39.32 # ahh, ic 22.39.50 # makes more sense to me now 22.40.12 Quit _aLF (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.40.14 # did anyone make an archos hardware 101 doc? or notes? 22.40.17 # one guy has written what amounts to almost an archos emulator, but that was more than a year after we started on Rockbox 22.40.26 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBA7781.ipt.aol.com) 22.40.27 # ah 22.40.32 # Hiya 22.40.34 # hi goat 22.40.37 # hi Zagor 22.40.37 # hi track 22.40.38 Join _aLF [0] (~alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 22.40.43 # it just seems impossible, Zagor 22.40.53 # without a lot of inside contacts 22.40.54 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 22.40.54 # zYgoat: nah, just hard work 22.41.04 # hi Zagor 22.41.07 # hi track 22.41.22 # it was quite useful when debugging the flash booter 22.41.23 # im impressed with the video playback on the archos wiv that plugin 22.41.34 # yeah, me too 22.41.47 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-1396.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk) 22.41.48 # Would sound be possible with the playback? 22.41.52 # ahh, that reminds me of the good old C64 days ... back then I was brave enough to do mods 22.41.56 # track: yes 22.42.00 # cool 22.42.08 # It would be great to watch DVD rips on it 22.42.26 # I didn't think the LCD could do greyscale 22.42.27 # track: DVD rips? you *ought* to be kidding 22.42.38 # track: it can't ;) 22.42.55 # well convert them to 112x64 in virtualdub then use the files to convert to .rvf 22.43.15 # track: you need to convert the movies to the special rockbox format first. there's no time to unpack or decode data while playing it. 22.43.24 # yea i know that 22.43.25 # right 22.43.35 # but i wondered if the special rockbox format could also include sound 22.44.01 # probably rather a "link" to an mp3 file 22.44.08 # I wonder how the greyscale is achieved 22.44.11 # yea prob Zagor 22.44.12 # zagor it's enough CPU power for single *.jpgs, gifs and pngs 22.44.13 # maybe there's no time 22.44.17 # by flicking bits. read jörgs mail. 22.44.26 # no cpu time 22.44.31 # xam: yes, if we convert first and then show it 22.44.36 # flicking bits to achieve the greyscale? 22.44.39 # yes 22.44.47 # lol 22.44.50 # makes no sense to me :( 22.45.00 # reminds me of a rejected request show greyscale 22.45.02 # turn one pixel on and off while make it gray. 22.45.16 # s/while/will 22.45.21 # track: try to open and close your eyes about 60 times a second ;) 22.45.24 # must need a bit of CPU power to do that 22.45.30 # lol 22.45.36 # yeah, about all of it :) 22.45.41 # lol 22.45.45 # But is sound still feasable 22.45.46 # ? 22.45.51 # archos cpu is 12 mhz 16 bit? 22.45.52 # yes 22.45.56 # cool 22.45.58 # track: it's done via dsp 22.46.06 # I held the Gmini today in John Lewis 22.46.07 # zYgoat: 32bit, actually 22.46.17 # Zagor everybody is buying Ipods this christmas!!! 22.46.24 # track: fools 22.46.37 # ;) 22.46.38 # they sold out in John Lewis where I live 22.46.42 # track: so? everybody is buying windows too. 22.46.45 # everyone was fighting to get one 22.46.58 # yea but windows is the de facto operating system 22.47.07 # and ipod is the market leading mp3 player 22.47.13 # track: not at my place 22.47.21 # i want to get a Gmini 22.47.24 # why? 22.47.43 # lots of reasons, CF slot, WMA, blue backlight, USB2, GUI 22.47.44 # track: well, you are right. it's "de facto", but it's not really an operating system ;) 22.48.11 # lol 22.48.26 # track: you *want* wma? why would anyone want that? 22.48.41 # some people like it a 64kbps 22.48.42 # save hd space? 22.49.07 # so you want to buy a new 20gig archos for $300 instead of a new 80gig disk for $100? 22.49.24 # i didn't know 80 gigger disks exist 22.49.37 # you didn't really look, then :) 22.49.42 # lol 22.49.44 Join pfavr [0] (pfavr@62.242.156.111) 22.49.46 # track: the recorder 20 has USB2, GUI, green backlight AND rockbox ... and replaceable batteries 22.50.01 # xam i have a recorder 10 22.50.19 # and the UI on the Gmini uses icons not text 22.50.53 # for $300 i'll draw you some icons too :) 22.51.02 # i was thinking a perfect game for rockbox would be slot-racers from the atari 2600... man i loved that game... 2k RAM 22.51.06 # (on paper ;) 22.51.08 # track: icons is for illiterates 22.51.09 # lol 22.51.10 # yea but the screen is smaller than the Gminis 22.51.33 # There has to be a way to make the USB1 behave like USB2 22.51.36 Quit Jet8810 ("Leaving") 22.51.44 # my usb2 ports are wasted as I have no usb2 devices :-( 22.51.55 # track: no, there isn't 22.51.58 # i have 4 USB1.1s and 4 USB2.0s 22.52.05 # why not? the socket is physically there 22.52.07 # i think the usb is integrated into a chipset 22.52.14 # not a seperate chip - so you can't replace 22.52.17 # I've a usb2 card, but it doesn't work properly under linux :( just can use usb1 22.52.36 # track: duh, the socket is not the issue 22.52.51 # oh 22.52.53 # k 22.53.27 # is it easy to change the HD in the archos? 22.53.36 # yes, quite easy 22.53.52 # if i put an 80 gigger in it will it use more battery? 22.53.57 # no 22.54.10 # cool 22.54.11 # ok 22.54.24 # im not sure if i could format an 80 gigger as FAT32 since I use XP 22.54.38 # use a separate tool (or linux) 22.54.41 # track do you have linux? 22.54.42 # prob there would only be an NTFS option :-( 22.54.46 # no 22.55.08 # track: use this www.ranish.com/part/ 22.55.09 # track: get knoppix, maybe it comes with dosfstools 22.55.17 # thanks 22.55.17 # :-) 22.55.31 # The AV300 can record to WAV as well as MP3 Zagor 22.55.31 # :-) 22.56.00 # i'd expect that, yes 22.56.25 # I wonder what MAS the AV3xx uses 22.56.35 # dosfstools is old! 22.56.39 # none. it uses a TI dsp. 22.56.41 # or is it? 22.56.59 Join pfavr2 [0] (pfavr@62.242.156.12) 22.57.00 # zYgoat: I don't know ... at least it works 22.57.00 # oh mtools is old--- sorry nevermind 22.57.10 # mkfs.vfat 2.10 (22 Sep 2003) 22.57.40 # zagor, have you been able to use the experience with rockbox for work? 22.57.51 # could repair every vfat error so far 22.58.14 # zYgoat: a little. i'm programming a similar lcd controller at my current job, for instance. 22.58.39 # zYgoat: I'm always using the experience with rockbox at work ... music at work is relaxing ;) 22.59.11 # :) 22.59.23 # experience with rockbox = experience of rockbox ;) 23.00.52 Join pfavr3 [0] (pfavr@62.242.157.155) 23.01.13 # Zagor what do u think of the downloadable plugins for the Gmini? 23.02.48 # u buy the Gmini and pay to get the CF reader to work 23.02.50 Quit DJBaz (Remote closed the connection) 23.03.32 # track: it's quite simple: don't buy it if you don't like the idea. i'd be upset if they tried to hide the fact, but being public about it I can't say much. 23.04.09 # lol 23.04.16 # I mean what do u think of the concept? 23.04.41 # just say u make a Player that can play MP3 or WAV and you sell a plugin to enable WAV playback 23.04.57 # what do u think of the concept? 23.05.02 # what was the best 'deal' you ever made? I mean what kind of electric/electronic device did you buy in the past that exceeded what it promised? 23.05.05 # so you sell software. what's new about that? 23.05.19 # xam, the fostex ps3 mini monitors 23.05.29 # xam, the event 20/20 monitors 23.05.46 # two good budget speaker buys - newer ones are better deals tho 23.06.00 # etymotic er-4 23.06.06 # I mean, do u think its fair you buy a player with a CF reader and forced to pay extra if u want the CF reader to work? 23.06.10 # what is etymotic? 23.06.23 # archos recorder 20 (at least so far, and with help of the rockbox team) 23.06.40 # track - it's fair if the product description mentions that 23.06.43 # etymotic one of the best (in-ear) monitors 23.06.52 # zYgoat: an ear plug manufacturer that also sells some headphones. celebrated by many, junked by me 23.07.16 # hmm i will look at them 23.07.31 # anyone hear recordings made by "core" binaural mikes? 23.07.35 # don't look - listen! they cost $300 and sound (IMHO) lousy 23.07.37 # zagor some don't like sticking things in their ears ... it's uncomfortable for some 23.08.04 # xam: i love in-ear phones. i just don't like the etys. i use sony ex70 instead. 23.08.09 # that website has the most effulgent purchaser reccomendations - the core sound mikes are perfect for loud concerts 23.08.26 Quit pfavr2 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.08.32 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-1396.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk) 23.10.09 # zagor at least for me the sound is comparable to my sennheise HD580's 23.10.49 Quit track ("Leaving") 23.11.26 # zagor I have to agree $330 is quite a lot of money, but I got mine from ebay at $180 23.11.42 # xam: yeah, some people love them. i can't say you or they are wrong, just that they were a big dissapointment for me. 23.12.27 # zagor I don't try to convince you ;) I just wanted to also tell my experience ... 23.12.29 # * zYgoat checks out sony ex70 23.13.36 # zYgoat: btw, yes, I heard binaural recordings ... 23.15.15 Quit pfavr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.16.16 # i notice a lot of his letters are from people without much experience with mics - but he has some from engineers 23.17.04 # i've just got these 40 dollar sony earbuds - my 1979 sennheisers died around 1990 23.17.29 # zYgoat: the unfortunate thing about binaural recordings is that it isn't perfect 3d sound. you can't produce it that way for 100% of the people, since the inner ear canals differ from person to person. for me the binaural recording sounded good, but they couldn't represent objects in the front or the back properly 23.18.04 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD95129B4.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.18.50 # by that standard, you can't record perfect 3d sound - you need to generate it for each listener 23.19.30 # zYgoat: I also bought some sony earbuds md-something for about $35 a couple of years ago. They are crap in comparison to *any* in-ear bud 23.19.50 # yeah. in-ear is the way to go. 23.19.52 # zYgoat: nope, you have to use boxes 23.20.06 # except stay far away for KOSS "the plug"... 23.20.10 # from 23.20.54 # Zagor: I've also hear not-so-good reviews about the bang&olufsen in-ear 23.21.03 # ok. i haven't tried thos. 23.21.04 Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.151.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 23.21.19 Quit DJBaz ("Leaving") 23.21.23 # i guess i never expected good sound from in-ear 23.22.09 # zYgoat: the first in-ears I used was a mono-in-ear from about 20 years ago. it was utter crap ;) 23.22.56 # hah i still have one - with the 'flesh' colored backing and the clear or white ear-stopper 23.23.07 # came with my radio shack electronics kit 23.24.23 # mine was all-white ... well it used to be 23.25.20 # hah 23.27.17 Quit pfavr3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.30.22 Join track [0] (jirc@ACB9787E.ipt.aol.com) 23.40.46 Quit Cheek (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.53.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.56.39 Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") 23.57.54 Quit edx ()