--- Log for 23.12.103 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 9 days and 10 hours ago 00.01.15 Quit MethanGas (" The IRC Client of the Gods! -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- HydraIRC") 00.06.39 Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.174.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 00.16.26 # Cool, antibubbles 00.25.54 Join lini_ [0] (~lini@vega-club.rousse.spnet.net) 00.26.00 Nick lini_ is now known as lini (~lini@vega-club.rousse.spnet.net) 00.27.42 # i was thinking of upgrading my jbr to a av320 this christmas... e770? WTF? why is it so foking expensive? is it made of gold or smth? 00.27.45 Nick edx is now known as edx{dvd} (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.48.47 Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") 00.53.37 # lini: lol i got my av340 for free~ 00.55.17 Quit Sebulba02 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.58.12 Join Stevenm [0] (~StevenM@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 00.58.28 # hey guys. anyone get Rockbox to play video? 00.58.41 Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.227.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 00.59.25 # I tried the video plugin but I get error- Incompatible Version. I'm using rockbox 2.1 on a Recorder 01.00.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> you have to update to the daily build 01.01.33 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 01.01.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> or where did you get the plugin? it wasn't in 2.1 01.03.08 # I got the plugin off the rockbox site 01.03.35 # Oh guys.. I flashed my device. Cna I still upgrade Rockbox somehow? 01.04.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> shure. play the .ucl file of the daily build 01.04.14 # What would that do? 01.04.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> reflash the rockbox part 01.04.56 # Oh ok, nice 01.06.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> RTFM: the "standard" procedure is to get a daily build, copy all to the JB, play the .ajz to be in the new Rockbox version, then play rockbox.ucl to flash it. 01.06.21 # I get error: Incompativle Version when playing the UCL file 01.06.37 # I did RTFM, did just taht 01.06.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> play the .ajz first to be consistant 01.06.58 # I just did 01.07.07 # Run the new firmware first, then the UCL 01.07.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> else you have already new plugins, but still run an older Rockbox version. 01.07.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> didn't work? 01.08.05 # Ah here we go 01.08.10 # my bad- forgot to sync filesystem 01.08.52 # I ususally mount nosync.. but I'll throw that into fstab when I'm not feeling lazy 01.09.12 # Infornogr4phy i envy you! getting a free one is too much! noooo 01.09.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> Stevenm: got a video? 01.10.19 # Yea 01.10.25 # Holy crap guys, this is AWESOME 01.10.43 # someone ought to add am MP3 sound channel :-) 01.11.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> slowly, one after the other 01.11.18 # Yea I gotcha 01.11.33 # [IDC]Dragon did you decide on the way audio is going to be added? 01.11.46 # separate file/ interleaving etc? 01.12.07 # Woah, you guys are ACTUALLY addinv sound? 01.12.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> the clean way would be to interleave bitswapped mp3 data 01.12.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> Stevenm: not yet, just thinking about it 01.13.08 # Well, how much CPU time is used playing video? Will there be enough procewsing power to send MP3 data and video at once? 01.13.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> mp3 doesn't need much CPU 01.13.47 # lol 01.13.48 # whoops 01.13.50 # backies~ 01.13.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> try it: play an mp3 in the "background" while you run a video 01.14.00 # Stevenm, audio is processed by a different chip 01.14.28 # lini: I know.. read the technical docs.. but it would seem that video would take up A LOT of resources, no? 01.14.32 # lini: lol there are alot of HORROR stories about archos products lol..i think it's fair i got mine free lol 01.14.35 # i lose only 1 fps when i play audio and i think it is because of the empty buffer filling 01.14.37 # =P 01.14.48 # Nice 01.15.04 # lol i'm going to try and get 2 more av300's but only the 20 gig models 01.15.08 # Infornogr4phy hm I haven't got a single problem with mine 01.15.26 # Btw, I think I ought to say, Rockbox is, like, completely kick ass 01.15.29 # lini: same here, but if you go on like yahoo groups you hear all these bad horror storries 01.15.34 # except that one of the batteries leaked 01.15.38 # :) 01.15.54 # lini: like there was this one guy who had to return his av320 3 times to the same store 01.15.55 # i never saw a nimh battery leak before 01.16.25 # lini: and another guy whose screen didn't work and he called archos only to hear the archos representative tell him to "Get your money back." 01.17.17 # bah 01.17.42 # i was so hoping to watch movies on my trips 01.17.51 # lol 01.17.57 # now I am thinking of getting a pda to do that 01.18.03 # i love watching movies and episodes while at school or travelling 01.18.04 # lol 01.18.09 # all on my purdy archos 01.18.13 # only thing remaining is how to hook it to a hdd 01.18.15 # i want to make an external battery pack though 01.18.28 # It's kinda amazing how Archos made their products so, erm, crap-free 01.18.38 # Stevenm: yea 01.18.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> goodnight folks! 01.18.44 # not all people have problems with the archos 01.18.51 # Others would like, put some kind of special partition on the drive, a special filesystem, a special hd connector, etc 01.19.01 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 01.19.13 # i think it's kinda normal to have horror stories, there are horror stories for every product...just the general consensus for archos is...TECH SUPPORT IS NONEXISTANT 01.19.54 # lol 01.20.01 # Infornogr4phy, i know that. I knew that when i bought mine. 01.20.10 # but i was willing to take the risk 01.20.21 # it was the cheapest one :) 01.20.26 # heh 01.20.36 # Try COMCAST horror stories. 9 phone calls. 2 months. not a single tech. 01.20.42 # but well, if my av300 breaks...I still have an RCA Lyra i use as a paperweight, a couple of ipods, 3 irivers and i'm going to try and get 2 more av300's 01.20.58 # Infornogr4phy why? 01.21.21 # in case one of the av breaks 01.21.22 # Stevenm: lol the only thing I hate about comcast is the $$$ i have no problems with them otherwise 01.21.24 # ? 01.21.42 # lini: ah lol in case mine breaks, I have backups lol 01.22.16 # lini: lol i still have the crappy RCA Lyra ( paperweight ) , some 40gig ipods and 3 irivers, but i still like the av300's so i'm going to go for more lol 01.22.23 # XD i love free stuffies 01.23.25 # sigh, but still i like the av340 i have now...it's working so well..but after all the horror stories...@_@ 01.23.28 # i'm still determined to watch movies somehow. and i don't want a bulky notebook 01.23.55 # lini: yea...do yourself a favor, get an av320 and opt for an extended warantee 01.24.11 # bleh i can't even spell correctly now.. 01.24.41 # Infornogr4phy i'm a poor student. if i get one now i'll have to starve for the next couple of months 01.24.43 # :) 01.24.48 # ouch 01.24.59 # lol i'm poor too i know what you mean 01.25.00 # lol 01.25.24 # not all of us have access to some store's warehouse :) 01.25.34 # XD 01.25.37 # lol 01.25.52 # your half right when you say that 01.25.53 # XD 01.26.44 # maybe i'll start harassing archos so they send me one to "review" 01.27.11 # lol i doubt they would 01.27.25 # I think techtv and a bunch of other places had to BUY it to review it ( go archos! ) 01.27.50 # oh i can settle for a discount too 01.28.07 # + i am sure to get a working one, cause nobody wants bad publicity 01.28.14 # lol 01.28.52 # man, if Dogger manages to get Linux and Mame on an av300...then lini, you'd better get one 01.29.22 # * Infornogr4phy imagines playing game boy advance games via emulator and rom on his av340....and selling his GBA SP 01.29.29 # nah 01.29.39 # i'm pretty sure i'll get an asus pda 01.29.45 # lol 01.29.55 # archos is too damn expensive 01.30.04 # lol yea i have to say that too.. 01.30.26 # the only thing bothering me is the memory on the pda 01.30.26 # i went to fry's to see just how much my archos costs if i had to buy it and Fry's rips you off 01.30.32 # it's like $700 01.30.45 # lini: what kind of memory does the pda use? flash? 01.30.51 # CF 01.30.55 # bleh 01.31.08 # lesse the prices for CF cards... 01.31.56 # problem is that going from 20GB to a couple of hundred mb max is way too steep :( 01.32.11 # oooh...they have a 4GB CF Type II card out by LEXAR... 01.32.30 # yea and it probably costs as much as the av :) 01.32.31 # and it's fat32 compliant~ 01.32.35 # lmao 01.32.37 # let me check the price 01.34.19 # lol for 1 gig it's $250 01.35.09 # bah 01.35.49 # 1 gig for $250....to 20 gigs for $400 lol...uuhh...archos at least has an upperhand on that one... 01.36.49 # and i guess i cannot connect the pda to the archos cause they can only be usb slaves :( i knew firewire was better :) 01.37.23 # lol yea 01.37.34 # i think i want to buy the firewire adaptor for my archos 01.37.43 # heh 01.38.23 # would be cool tho. keep all the data on a firewire drive and use it only when needed, otherwise stick with the pda 01.39.45 Quit mecraw__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.41.40 # Hey, where can I find some documentation on the Linux version of the Rockbox simulator? 01.42.07 # the rockbox website? 01.42.14 # Looking around.. 01.42.25 # or maybe checkout the source? 01.43.20 # ah got it 01.46.02 Quit Stevenm ("Client exiting") 01.48.37 Join jajasonvich [0] (jirc@astound-66-234-214-245.ca.astound.net) 01.49.37 # hello, does anyone know if there is a special driver needed to hook up to pocket pc 2002 01.50.38 Quit jajasonvich (Client Quit) 01.50.58 Quit AciD ("Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95") 01.51.58 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 01.52.54 Quit Arnaud (Remote closed the connection) 01.55.01 Join earHertz [0] (~chatzilla@pool-138-88-166-150.res.east.verizon.net) 01.56.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.06.31 Quit _aLF ("bye") 02.30.03 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.35.56 Join imagine [0] (~imagine@ip100.pool179.sms1.champaign-il.egix.net) 02.36.02 Nick imagine is now known as Imagine (~imagine@ip100.pool179.sms1.champaign-il.egix.net) 02.36.07 # ahoy 02.36.36 # darn linus isn't here 02.37.33 # don't damn Linus 02.38.49 Nick edx{dvd} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.41.59 # indeed 02.42.21 # doesn't resolve the Dir buffer issue however 02.42.39 # when there's just one file hehe 02.42.44 # at least the partition issue is fixed 02.42.48 # what issue? 02.42.57 # theres an issue with that? 02.43.10 # not in teh code, prolly 02.43.32 # but formatting Fat32@16K shouldn't give any prob 02.47.17 Quit MT (Connection timed out) 02.47.38 # hmm 02.48.41 # Imagine: what didn't resolove the dir buffer issue? 02.48.46 # er resolve 02.49.04 # I think it may have just resolved 02.49.23 Quit edx () 02.49.32 # I formatted on Win2k and got the warning and that there were no files, but after being plugged into my Mac it's happy 02.50.00 # I've formatted mine on win2k numerous times 02.50.10 # no problems, other than I had to retransfer everything :) 02.51.42 # my baby AJBR has had some rough times though 02.51.51 # hard drive sounds like a car 02.51.57 # works fine though :) 02.52.39 # ouch 02.53.29 # like a car...? 02.54.00 # I hope that was exaggerated 02.54.11 # yea 02.54.24 # it sounds like a hard drive that has bad bearings 02.54.29 # if not then...maybe archos should start developing automobiles..? 02.54.33 # o_o 02.55.10 # heh 02.56.55 Join midknight2k3 [0] (Whoopie@12-229-203-55.client.attbi.com) 02.58.06 # lol 02.58.14 # i just unsubscribed mailing list 02.58.23 # Why? 02.58.32 # then refreshed the page and watched the subscribers number go from 486 to 485 02.58.55 # exciting 02.59.07 # quiet down now 02.59.18 # ha ah 03.00.34 # Bluechip: nice work on disp fix 03.01.13 # bye all 03.01.16 Quit midknight2k3 (Client Quit) 03.14.04 Quit AciD (Connection timed out) 03.18.00 Join midknight2k3 [0] (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 03.18.08 # baxck 03.18.45 # Oh no 03.19.01 # sorry ma'am 03.27.16 Join MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 03.38.24 # hi mt 03.48.59 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Tickle-Me Elmo uses BitchX. *giggle* *giggle* *giggle*") 03.49.29 # heh 03.50.15 Part lini 03.53.05 Join Snerf [0] (icechat5@d64-180-154-46.bchsia.telus.net) 03.53.14 # gi 03.53.18 # hi* 03.53.43 # gi 03.53.44 # :) 03.54.34 # lol 03.55.15 # wassup 03.55.55 # not much 03.55.56 # you 03.55.57 # ? 03.56.05 # same ole , same ole :) 03.56.18 # yeah 03.56.32 # wait a second. 03.56.35 # oh nm 03.56.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.51 # okie dokie 04.01.06 # bye all 04.01.07 Quit midknight2k3 ("sudden death") 04.01.11 Join arspy87 [0] (~arspy87@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com) 04.01.15 # hey guys 04.07.34 Quit Sebulba02 (Nick collision from services.) 04.07.39 # quiet here 04.08.23 Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.191.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 04.09.13 # quite 04.14.37 # *falling asleep* 04.22.11 # i'm out 04.22.11 # ttyl 04.22.15 Part arspy87 04.52.45 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 04.53.24 Join GOD [0] (UPP@c-24-130-133-225.we.client2.attbi.com) 04.53.26 Quit Infornogr4phy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.10.15 Quit Snerf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.38.31 Join midknight2k3 [0] (~midknight@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 05.38.35 # hey all! 05.38.39 # longhorn i'm on 05.38.43 # finished 05.49.40 Part Sebulba02 05.50.20 # FINE THEN 05.56.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.58.31 # anybody seen Linus? 05.58.54 # im here 05.58.54 # longhorn 05.58.54 # neato 05.59.05 # neato 05.59.11 # too bnad dcc doesnt work 05.59.29 # bad* 06.00.18 # why? 06.00.31 # i could send you a neat screenie 06.01.55 # Oh, too bad. 06.03.14 # asdf 06.03.17 # d 06.03.41 Quit AciD ("Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95") 06.26.12 # midknight2k3 has seen LOTR 10 times 06.26.29 # yes 06.27.02 # what's up midknight2k3 06.27.24 # LONGHORN 06.27.34 # th OS? 06.27.44 # yeah! 06.28.07 # what about it? 06.28.21 # on it 06.28.22 # its nice 06.28.25 # 4051 06.29.04 # I don't want it 06.29.47 # i didnt offer it 06.31.32 # No, i mean when MS brings it out, I won't buty it 06.31.44 # why not 06.31.48 # avalon is awesome 06.32.25 # DRM 06.32.36 # DEFINE DRM 06.33.36 # digital restrictions management 06.33.54 # Longhorn will report your music to MS and prevent you from playing it 06.34.10 # what?! 06.34.16 # Yup 06.34.36 # It's part of teh music companies' plan 06.34.55 # tards 06.35.20 # Whole parts of your computer will be off-limits to you, but readable and writable by big companies 06.35.35 # nice fantasy 06.35.39 # but it won't happen 06.36.03 # It will if everyone likes Longhormn as much as you do. 06.36.11 # Me, I'm going to be using linux 06.36.13 # shh 06.36.26 Join ajiuO [0] (me@c-24-10-249-168.client.comcast.net) 06.36.47 # does this stuff work for the Archos Gmini or jsut jukebox 06.36.54 # just jukebox 06.37.10 # is there anythign for the gmini yet?? 06.37.21 # no 06.37.50 # Nor will there be. Sorry. 06.38.00 # oh why not? 06.38.10 # Gmini's different architechture. 06.38.18 # Ansd archos is selling software now. 06.38.55 # well that dont mean no one will hack it 06.39.12 # half the fun 06.39.40 # Well, it means that who does hack it, may have Archos complaining that the hack takes away money from Archos 06.39.52 # and sue you 06.40.01 # or DMCA you. 06.40.36 # well as long as its not there software your pirating there shoudl be no problem 06.40.38 # What makes the Gmini better than the Reorder, anyway? 06.40.47 # Reorder? whats that 06.40.55 # Recorder. 06.41.00 # it is perfecvtly legl for 3erd party suport 06.41.23 # its just like microsoft making office for an aple 06.41.24 # support 06.41.27 # not rw/ing 06.41.54 # ajiuO, I agree. But I onnly have a few lawyers. 06.42.27 # LOL 06.42.37 # heh iv alread been to court as a result of the dmca was fun 06.42.55 # Oh? You got a take-down notice? 06.43.18 # no directv seems to think iso smart card readers are iligle 06.43.24 # i bot one 06.43.34 # so they asumed i used it for them 06.43.36 # you bot one? 06.43.37 # cool 06.43.40 # :D j/k 06.43.41 # the bastards 06.43.53 # they had not proof of what i used it for 06.44.09 # rediculous 06.44.19 # dont know how they get away with that crap 06.44.25 # dint get a dime out of me thogh 06.44.59 # i slaped the ricco act back on that ass 06.45.16 # LOL 06.45.37 # for evry law there is a counter law i tell you 06.47.55 # has anyone here used the Gmini 06.48.19 # eew 06.48.19 # i was trying to deside on a mp3 player to buy 06.48.24 # get a rec20 06.48.39 # whats that 06.48.49 # You didn't pay the 3 grand? 06.49.14 # oh is that what there setlement is 06.49.24 # i idnt ask 06.49.30 # yeah, you went to court? 06.49.34 # i just went to court 06.49.53 # ended up with a no cash setlment 06.49.53 # and? 06.50.18 # Gmini...BAD...Archos wants you to buy all these plugins for it... 06.50.20 # but you settled? 06.50.34 # i made the setlment not them 06.50.53 # did you have to give up the reader? 06.51.00 # nope 06.51.15 # you should post your story on slashdot 06.51.21 # well i cauly bot 2 things 06.51.22 # yeah 06.51.30 # cauly bot? 06.51.39 # the lawer admited in court that the programer was legal 06.51.54 # i gues the other thing i bot had other uses thogh i dont know 06.51.56 # he could, but 06.52.47 # but unforutnatly directv must prove that they where harmed by the use of this porduct 06.53.00 # if they cant 06.53.17 # there is no civle remidy 06.56.29 # tis the ipob specail or somthign 06.56.49 # what 06.56.50 # it seems alot hier prised then comparable stuff 06.56.52 # i cant understand you 06.56.56 # yes it is 06.57.01 # its not good 06.57.03 # get a recorder 20 06.59.53 # Is the Gmini in color/ 07.00.15 # ? 07.01.53 # well im gonna get it on my circuit city card and they only have the gmini, the mutimieda 20G, and the av320 witch is out of the question 07.02.02 # is the mutimedia any good 07.02.09 # i hear its pretty bad 07.02.20 # screen bleeds, bad ui, all the good stuff 07.02.33 # Archos qulaity is spotty 07.02.39 # very 07.02.43 # get a Rio Karma 20 07.02.45 # they have it at CC 07.02.52 # esp. with the FM and rhe V2 07.02.55 # i promise you thats the best choice 07.03.11 # not that we will support the karma in Rockbox 07.03.14 # no 07.03.19 # but if you have to have non rockbox 07.03.21 # get a karma 07.03.25 # it's imperative 07.04.12 # does rockbox only suport archos? 07.04.28 # and Neo jukebox 07.04.31 # but thats super old 07.04.35 # not retail 07.04.38 # get a karma 07.10.30 # http://www.rioworld.org/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=1641 07.10.32 # there ya go 07.14.16 # wor prety small too 07.14.32 # very 07.14.37 # highly recommended 07.14.42 # great support too 07.14.47 # new features such as dock pulse 07.14.50 # ethernet 07.14.53 # rca out 07.14.55 # ogg playback 07.14.58 # FLAC playback 07.15.01 # 16 hours battery life 07.15.11 # astounding sound quality 07.21.36 # closed source 07.21.43 # boo hoo 07.21.46 # just like EVERYTHING ELSE 07.22.45 # except for rockbox... 07.22.59 # sure 07.23.02 # what about that hd-500? 07.23.11 # but count the other hundred MP3 players out there and, well, ... 07.23.14 # er 07.23.15 # scott 07.23.22 # circuit city doesnt stock it 07.23.26 # and if they did whod want it 07.23.29 # the karma is the best 07.23.30 # everybody seems to like the HD-500, excpet the size 07.23.57 # half the fun for me id writing my own code for the thing. the karma fails it 07.24.26 # and what if the firmware on the karma sucks? 07.24.54 # midknight2k3wil have to suckit up 07.24.56 # that completely ruins a palyer 07.24.56 # ;) 07.25.02 # *player 07.25.14 # God, can you imagine running he Archos firmware. 07.25.17 # listen 07.25.17 # scott 07.25.20 # it doesnt 07.25.22 # slow ugly POS 07.25.22 # no 07.25.23 # ive messed with it 07.25.28 # EVERYONE HAS MESSED WITH UIT 07.25.31 # constant updates 07.25.34 # its very very nice 07.25.36 # i used it in the car ride hom 07.25.36 # e 07.25.37 # don't mess with it, you'l go blind 07.25.40 # that was it 07.25.53 # rca any good?? 07.26.02 # no 07.26.04 # get the karma 07.26.07 # rva has a player/ 07.26.17 # the karma is also $400 07.26.28 # er 07.26.31 # $300 or so 07.26.35 # rca has a 40 gig one 07.26.38 # forget it 07.26.40 # sheesh 07.26.40 # dont knwo about them thogh 07.26.42 # last time i checked it was 400 07.26.50 # scott: CHECK AGAIN 07.27.05 # yeah, i either want a player i can upgrade the HD of, or ones thats 60+ GB 07.27.11 # rca consumeer elctronics have a poor rep 07.27.27 # aol: me too, scott666 07.27.44 # and for that, 1.8" drive players suck 07.28.01 # at least for nwo 07.28.05 # *now 07.28.51 # plus, I have a 60 already that I can rip out of my fmr 07.30.57 # don't get me wrong, midknight2k3. If the karma were open sopurce, I'd buy one tomorrow 07.31.13 # no 07.31.16 # thats not what i mean 07.31.21 # its the next best thing 07.31.27 # i know about it totally 07.32.52 # i hate 'next big things' 07.33.00 # fuck ipod 07.33.22 # next BEST thing 07.33.36 # Ipod's getting sued 07.33.42 # really? 07.33.44 # for what? 07.33.52 # c;lass action over the battery 07.34.12 # whats the advertised life of it? 07.35.10 # i heard they only last ~a year 07.35.22 # yup 07.35.27 # 5000 recharges 07.35.48 # thats pathetic 07.36.28 # but it .looks/ cool 07.36.42 # no it doenst 07.36.42 # wait...how does that come out to a year? 07.36.49 # midknight2k3, go to bed 07.36.51 # ;) 07.37.00 # is the battery life like 6 hours? 07.37.04 # ill leave if you wish 07.37.09 # t dioesn't 07.37.21 # it doesnn'y. Thus teh suit. 07.37.27 # oh, thats the advertisted time? gotcha 07.37.29 # just kidding, midj 07.37.39 # ill be quiet 07.37.41 # * midknight2k3 zips lips 07.37.44 # actually, I think they don't advertise a time 07.37.56 # has anyone tried www.emusic.com? 07.38.02 # it used to be great 07.38.05 # earhertz started that 07.38.05 # no it succks 07.38.05 # lol 07.38.09 # it does 07.38.11 # ? 07.38.12 # now it sucks' 07.38.14 # really? 07.38.19 # you used to do that a lot 07.38.22 # they have a 50 free song thing now 07.38.25 # they limited downloads to 40/month from unlimited 07.38.27 # 2 week trial 07.38.32 # REALLY? 07.38.33 # THAT SUCKS 07.38.38 # it sucks 07.38.39 # thats not.. no. its.. 07.38.42 # its not possible 07.38.49 # and, they are having all sorts of technical problems 07.39.00 # did you hear that sound? 07.39.08 # it's emusic being flushed down a toilet 07.39.12 # heh 07.39.14 # bbl 07.39.14 Part ajiuO 07.39.26 # i think ill try em out anyway 07.39.33 # 50 free mp3s = good 07.39.39 # yeah 07.39.44 # unless they suck 07.39.55 # OH MAN! 07.39.56 # in which case its still no loss 07.40.08 # EMusic Basic: $9.99 per month/40 song downloads 07.40.08 # EMusic Plus: $14.99 per month/65 song downloads 07.40.08 # EMusic Premium: $19.99 per month/90 song downloads 07.40.18 # yeah 07.40.39 # unlimited would be sweet, but how would they stay in business? 07.40.51 # id get everything i wanted the first month and then leave 07.41.14 # they used to have unlimited 07.41.17 # that SUCKS 07.41.29 # it used to be like 14.99 a month for unlimited 07.41.36 # and you download MP3! not wmas 07.48.20 # adf 07.54.52 # back in a few 07.54.54 Quit midknight2k3 () 07.56.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.59.34 Join Infornogr4phy [0] (~UPP@c-24-130-133-225.we.client2.attbi.com) 07.59.34 Quit GOD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.59.36 Join midknight2k3 [0] (midknight2@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 07.59.42 # nack 07.59.44 # ack 07.59.48 # not on longhon nomores 08.11.47 Join Arnaud [0] (~asl@adsl.hlfl.org) 09.34.53 Quit earHertz ("ChatZilla 0.9.54b [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031007]") 09.57.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.10.58 Join zYgoat [0] (~zygoat@p5080DDF5.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.11.09 # happy Winter Solstice 10.11.13 # and a merry New Orbit 10.11.21 # hi hi 10.19.23 # mooo 10.19.28 # asdvdvdvdvdvdvdvdvdv 10.19.29 # sdd 10.19.31 # dfad 10.19.31 # asdf 10.19.47 # i want rockbox 10.19.53 # get it then 10.20.01 # running on my iriver ;) 10.20.06 # what iriver 10.20.08 # lol 10.20.09 # model 10.20.13 # 590t 10.20.16 # mm 10.20.17 # tasty 10.20.32 # ive got a 390t 10.20.34 # yes the FM reception is usable - which amazed me 10.20.56 # only advantage to the 590 is i have double the memory 10.21.04 # oh really 10.21.08 # but not 10.21.14 # i mean flash ram 10.21.21 # not the 256MB 10.21.28 # 390t = 256mb 10.21.30 # the memory for the codecs 10.21.34 # 590t = 256mb 10.21.35 # correct? 10.21.38 # yes 10.21.42 # oh 10.21.44 # ohh 10.21.46 # the players have three different kinds of ram 10.21.49 # yeah thast a big dea 10.21.51 # deal* 10.22.26 # there are so many cool things these players could do 10.22.42 # 1: They have a strongarm 16-bit CPU with memory management - i.e. they can run linux 10.22.48 # yeah right 10.22.57 # 2: They have USB - that means they could hook up to external keyboards and hard drives 10.22.58 # hehe 10.23.04 # yeah right 10.23.12 # anything FEASIBLE? :) 10.23.30 # umm 10.23.43 # i tied a little ribbon to mine 10.23.51 # thats nice 10.24.05 # i am a hax0r 10.24.13 # i noticed 10.24.15 # how 1337 10.25.39 # the flash-based player with external usb drive would be ideal 10.25.48 # leave the drive in the car 10.25.51 # asdf 10.26.15 # load currently interesting songs into the flash-player 10.26.24 # walk, hop, frolic 10.26.28 # asdfasdfasdf 10.26.31 # get back to car - switch-out the songs 10.33.07 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61de4.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 10.34.25 # methane gas 10.34.26 # woo 10.34.42 # morning to you too 10.35.20 # more liek night 10.35.22 # im TIRED 10.37.25 # E( <> )3 10.37.37 # er 10.37.44 # * midknight2k3 tilts head sideways 10.37.53 # is that a face yawning? 10.38.02 # yewp 10.38.06 # I WIN 10.38.07 # well it's 10:38 am here, so i just got up 10.38.11 # lol 10.38.16 # well its 1:38 am here 10.38.24 # so time for bed in a few mins 10.38.36 # as far as face = goatse man 10.38.52 # ahh 10.39.22 # you were asdasdasd=ing my best ideas 10.39.29 # so you got the 'face' ;) 10.39.40 # now i get it 10.40.18 # but you're right - i have no chance of getting those implemented 10.40.20 # anyway 10.40.22 # i'm off for a smoke 10.40.41 # Smoke Ing Supported 10.41.34 # cheers! 10.42.58 # btw who made the danish language pack? 10.43.17 # ZSC 10.43.56 # just because some characters doesnt appear, æ ø and å 10.47.32 # lmao 10.47.33 # http://www.geocities.com/bobmaloogakathy/frogsecx/receiver.html 10.48.37 # well now we just need one with mickey mouse 10.48.44 # http://www.geocities.com/electabuzz2002/lite.htm 10.48.48 # goatse LITE 10.50.12 Join trakk [0] (jirc@ACBB45FD.ipt.aol.com) 10.51.26 Join _aLF [0] (~alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 10.53.27 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.55.05 # Morning 10.55.29 # night 10.55.30 # lol 10.57.57 Nick edx is now known as edx{eatz} (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.58.46 # haha 10.58.54 # hiua 10.58.55 # hiya 10.58.56 # ! 10.59.10 # nii 10.59.15 # asdf 10.59.16 # sdd 10.59.16 # dfad 11.00.43 # dwas? 11.00.46 Join Laurent_ [0] (~laurent@dyn-81-166-152-188.ppp.tiscali.fr) 11.00.49 # asg 11.00.51 # sdfa 11.01.33 # * zYgoat installs eclipse 11.03.59 # TEA MAKER 11.04.08 # gotta go 11.04.09 # nite all 11.05.09 # nite 11.05.21 # i am drinking green tea with vanilla and peppermint 11.05.33 # faskernating 11.05.38 # a few months ago it would have been beer 11.05.47 # ha ha 11.06.02 # did you know that Jon Lech Johansen won his trial ? 11.11.35 # ok really time to go 11.11.38 # ssya all later 11.11.43 Quit midknight2k3 ("sudden death") 11.12.09 # are there human beings in this channel or is it bot's land ? 11.12.11 # ;) 11.15.58 # TEA MAKER!!!!!! 11.18.41 # mid loves his sdd 11.21.41 # contrary to rumour 11.21.44 # i am not a robot 11.28.31 # oh M 11.28.32 # great ;) 11.30.01 # ok 11.30.02 # :-) 11.35.55 # does anyone have a gmini here ? 11.38.23 # I held one 11.39.26 # I guess it does not count ;) 11.40.02 # I'm still hesitating to open mine to see what it has under the hood 11.40.15 # so I'm asking if anyone did it before ;) 11.40.44 # anyhow i'm doing it right now 11.41.05 Quit trakk ("Leaving") 11.42.21 # shit i can't unscrew it 11.42.41 # use the proper size screwdriver 11.42.46 # don't strip the screws 11.43.08 # yup, it's a hexagonal screw 11.43.24 # real small one 11.43.43 # i need to buy one, let me add it to my shopping list ;) 11.43.56 # that's a good motivation to go shopping ;) 11.45.43 # heh 11.46.25 # anyway i had to or i'd starve quite soon ;) 11.50.04 Quit MT (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.55.57 Join cjnr11 [0] (nmpjhb@l01m-3-109.d1.club-internet.fr) 11.57.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.12.14 Nick edx{eatz} is now known as edx{xmastree} (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.21.07 Join MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 12.26.16 Quit zYgoat (Remote closed the connection) 12.31.22 # cu 12.31.25 Quit Laurent_ ("Download Gaim [http://gaim.sourceforge.net/]") 12.43.44 Join citrix7 [0] (NavyBear@DSL212-235-85-55.bb.netvision.net.il) 12.50.14 Quit citrix7 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.00.55 Nick edx{xmastree} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.02.15 Join funkymonkey [0] (methangas@0x50c61de4.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 13.02.16 Quit methangas (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.02.19 Nick funkymonkey is now known as methangas (methangas@0x50c61de4.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 13.09.30 Join DJBaz [0] (~baz@modem-3306.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) 13.36.47 Join quelsaruk [0] (jirc@faerun.ugr.es) 13.37.05 Quit quelsaruk (Client Quit) 13.41.07 Quit DJBaz ("Leaving") 13.44.01 Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.191.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 13.45.13 Nick edx is now known as edx{eatz} (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.46.04 Part Sebulba02 13.57.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.24.02 Nick edx{eatz} is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EA9DCA.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.34.10 # Does anyone here know or understand CVS to the degree that they could explain it to a complete dolt? 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I can't see it in the man ? 18.33.14 # i need "ignore trailing whitespace" 18.33.35 # -E --ignore-tab-expansion Ignore changes due to tab expansion. 18.33.42 # perhaps you should do it in two passes 18.33.59 Join baz_ [0] (~baz@modem-1107.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) 18.35.13 # hmmm, maybe - might be just as easy to patch it up by hand if it comes to that - just choose my "first" pass wisely to minimise effort 18.35.47 # let me resume 18.35.57 # oop - sorry 18.36.02 # you have made changes to both the code and the trailing white spaces 18.36.08 # yes 18.36.16 # no no it's ok, I was just thinking aloud ;) 18.36.32 # just confinming aloud :P ;) 18.36.44 # you want your trailing white spaces changes to be accepted as changes 18.36.58 # no trailing whitespace must be ignored 18.37.08 # why ? 18.37.28 # or I get hundreds of changes and complaints from the main developers 18.37.40 # ah, ok, now I get it 18.37.48 # damn 18.37.51 # me too 18.37.59 # have them rot in hell ;) 18.38.02 # (joking) 18.38.04 # lol 18.38.10 # (laughing) 18.38.52 # if it were that simple I would just load every file into my editor and do a save all and create a "tidy up whitespace" patch 18.39.03 # yup of course 18.39.48 # that's why I was resuming : always make sure you understood everything before looking for a solution ;) 18.40.49 # Bluechip: i think my really good version of rockbox will be done tomorrow, i just hope that no CVS chnges will be made soon 18.41.01 # have you tried --ignore-all-space ? 18.41.10 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Be563.b.pppool.de) 18.41.14 # brb 18.42.00 # sorry, gf interruption 18.42.12 # gf ? 18.42.17 # girlfriend 18.42.35 # NMI 18.42.39 Quit DJBaz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.42.39 # Girfriends usually have nmi 18.42.44 # lol 18.42.45 # :) 18.42.50 # sure 18.42.51 # you were faster 18.42.58 # you typed more ;) 18.43.56 # hum, I might have a solution 18.44.16 # not a clean one though 18.44.27 Quit baz_ ("Leaving") 18.44.29 # Laurent_: no, I don't hold much hope, but will try (--ignore-all-space) 18.44.35 # oopp - go on... 18.45.14 # get all sources against which you are checking in, pass them through your editor (or script equivalent) then make the diff against them 18.45.26 # not again the real source tree 18.45.32 # s/again/against/g 18.45.39 # ooohhh, tha'ts sneaky 18.45.42 # it *should* do it 18.45.44 # :) 18.46.00 # and my project file has relative paths in too :) 18.46.22 # sneaky ? got to learn that word ;) 18.46.41 # sorry, not sure if you are after a definition? 18.47.17 # 'marked by stealth, furtiveness, or shiftiness' that's it ;) 18.47.41 # Can somebody make MPEG_FF_REWIND more precise, please? I don't understand half of that code :) 18.47.45 # I was indeed, I'm not a native english speaker ;) 18.48.23 # yes, but also (when used in vernacular (common tongue)) suggests a level of inspiration or intelligence ...it's the thing that seperates programmers from hackers 18.49.13 # i'll take it as a compliment ;) 18.49.29 # kurzhaarrocker: is it not accurate? 18.49.37 # "devious" is the same word, but that suggests a level of "under-handed-ness" or naughty-ness 18.49.44 # it is a compliment 18.49.59 # ;) 18.50.44 # diddy: its behaviour is reproducable in an nearly appropriate way. But it is not frame accurate. 18.51.06 # gonna go eat in about 10mins, but will be playing the withespace game until then.... :) 18.51.26 # And you can't jump at any place within the file. 18.51.57 # ok :) 18.52.29 # just the time i need to unscrew my gmini and see what's under the hood 18.53.00 # kurzhaarrocker: i have no idea how to make it MORE accurate 18.53.01 # (bought a tork screwdriver) 18.53.11 # kurzhaarrocker: what files were you looking at? 18.53.18 # so long warranty, I'll miss you :( 18.53.29 # especially firmware/mpeg.h 18.54.30 # kurzhaarrocker: most of the codef or that is in firmware/mpeg.c, but i think a little is in apps/wps.c 18.56.28 # (mpeg.c was what I meant) I hardly use any apps code in my plugin. For looping I just call MPEG_FF_REWIND. 18.58.12 # do the original archos models have a warranty seal ? 18.58.40 # yes 18.58.51 # hairdryer & a scalpal job 18.59.08 # too late :) 18.59.12 # I think that it is inherent since the MAS for sure buffers a few frames. You'd have to reset it at the cost of latency I assume. 18.59.47 # Laurent: my 2nd recorder didn't have any warranty seals. 19.00.01 # bbl 19.00.07 # cu 19.00.07 Nick Bluechip is now known as BC|bbl (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 19.00.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK BC|bbl 19.04.28 # mpeg.h /mpeg.c gives quite a high level interface to the sound engine. Some tasks (e.g. a split editor) could utilize more low level functionality like defining the dma transfer borders. But maybe I'm talking rubbish here. 19.06.42 # kurzhaarrocker: are you testing on cbr or vbr files? 19.06.59 # both 19.07.18 # kurzhaarrocker: for cbr, mpeg_ff_rewind should be accurate 19.07.24 # it's not guaranteed with vbr 19.07.57 # hardeep: a patch was added for more accurate vbr rew/ff, i dont know how accurate... 19.08.19 # even with cbr there are may be fractions of seconds differences when you MPEG_FF_REWIND to the same position. 19.08.41 # diddystar5: that was for vbr files that don't have a toc, in which case you're really just guessing where to move to 19.08.49 # Someone made quite an effort to calculate the exact file position. 19.09.18 # haardeep there's code for vbr with headers, too 19.09.19 # kurzhaarrocker: true, it's all integer math so we can off by a bit 19.09.44 # kurzhaarrocker: yes. I'm just saying that with vbr there's no way to go to the exact position, even with the toc 19.09.49 # that astonishes me as I throw in identical pffsets. 19.09.53 # the toc just gives you 100 points of reference 19.10.01 # thats all? 19.10.03 # wow 19.10.15 # Someone made a sub - percent approximation, too 19.10.35 # yeah, it's an approximation though 19.10.41 # linear approximation that is 19.11.25 Quit edx{xmastree} (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.11.49 # But this approximation still work with reproducable results. There's no random() in it. And still there are minimal differences when you MPEG_FF_REWIND to the same position. 19.12.21 # kurzhaarrocker: hmmm, so you're passing the exact same position twice and getting two different offsets? 19.13.12 # But I assume that's the side effect of something else: The position where I interrupt the playback is not that precisely defined. Thus there might be some unplayed frames in the MAS buffer, or something. 19.13.41 # kurzhaarrocker: hmm, those should be cleared when you ff_rewind 19.14.37 # Do you have a recorder? 19.14.43 # yes 19.14.53 # Are you interested in trying the effect? 19.15.06 # kurzhaarrocker 19.15.19 # kurzhaarrocker: I can't right now... maybe later? 19.15.36 # whenever you want: www.carangg.de/spliteditor.zip 19.16.47 # okay, i'll try it out later today 19.17.10 # Do you know where and how the Mas is cleared while MPEG_FF_REWIND? 19.17.43 # All I can find is an initDMA 19.18.23 # and that's Code I don't understand. 19.18.42 # Yeah, init_dma is the call that should do it 19.21.29 # hmmm, one thing you might want to try is calling drain_dma_buffer() before the call to init_dma() 19.22.04 # I'll give it a try. 19.22.45 # got to go 19.22.46 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the ONLY three day cure!") 19.31.21 Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@dialup-67.31.192.191.Dial1.Tampa1.Level3.net) 19.31.33 # gotta go 19.31.37 # bye Sebulba02 19.31.52 # and hardeep 19.31.55 # shitty plastic cover 19.32.01 # too affraid to break it 19.32.01 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 19.33.33 # uh, bye 19.34.10 Join midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 19.34.19 # hullo hullo huloo! 19.36.01 # hey mid 19.36.17 # toopy 19.36.30 # i'm, on, long, horn, ha ha hah aha ha 19.36.54 # ? 19.37.00 # longhorn 19.37.13 # latest bloatware? 19.37.20 # define bloatware 19.37.29 # uh 19.37.42 # software that takes up tons of space 19.37.56 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@adsl-159-73-180.gsp.bellsouth.net) 19.37.56 Quit Guest (Remote closed the connection) 19.38.10 # without really the need for it 19.38.30 # its not bloated 19.38.34 # its fun 19.39.01 # yay 19.39.24 # is it one cd? 19.39.36 Join edx{xmastree} [0] (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.39.36 # its 660MB download 19.39.37 Join citrix7 [0] (NavyBear@DSL212-235-85-55.bb.netvision.net.il) 19.39.42 # hey hey 19.40.00 Nick edx{xmastree} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.40.06 # at least it fits on 1 cd i guess 19.40.15 # as is 19.40.22 # when avalon comes by, it may not 19.40.27 # but it will be sweeeeet 19.40.35 Join cjnr11 [0] (nmpjhb@l02m-28-250.d1.club-internet.fr) 19.40.55 # yeah i still use win98 19.41.31 # i would be using 95 but it didnt seem to work with my processor 19.41.45 # lmao 19.41.53 # 95 rules 19.42.05 # its only 16bit, I bet you have a modern 32bit processor 19.42.09 # yeah 19.42.15 # no, 95-98-2000-xp-2003-LONGHORN rules 19.42.29 # no linux for you? 19.42.41 # debian owns all that 19.42.43 # linux is like 2 gigs 19.42.47 # talk about bloat 19.42.48 # its not 19.42.51 # wtf toopy 19.42.57 # what 19.43.12 # i dont know jack about linux 19.43.14 # my mandrake installs at about 1.2 19.43.26 # which is a lot less than xp 19.43.37 # and i wanna be able to play games 19.43.48 # i use xp for games 19.43.49 # wine 19.43.58 # wine isnt very good 19.43.58 # 98 for counter strike still :O 19.44.22 # what exactly are the benfits of linux? 19.44.52 # wine can have some games working 19.44.57 # um... for me, not much. but i use it setting up servers for work, so i use it sometimes 19.45.06 # its for microsoft haters 19.45.09 # top_bloke: short term or long term ? 19.45.15 # any term 19.46.11 # short term, windows is better, easier, long term : windows will be closed, no open source software only microsoft approved ones, no privacy, no freedom ;) 19.46.32 # thats true 19.46.34 # all software locked via palladium : only commercial ones 19.47.20 # is longhorn an early palladium? 19.47.24 # i'm convinced linux can be as user friendly as windows is now 19.47.37 # but its takes work ot do that 19.47.43 # it probably contains some parts of it 19.47.49 # of course, lot of work ;) 19.48.07 Join lini [0] (~lini@vega-club.rousse.spnet.net) 19.49.39 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.50.11 Nick edx is now known as edx{essen} (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.57.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.59.37 # QUESTION: for Anyone who can help me. 19.59.42 # I have a recorder 15 20.00.02 # charged my batts for about 3 hours then started using the archos. (i got new batts) anyway, the batt numbers were going down FAST!! then it went from like 70 to 25..... 20.00.17 # then about 10 min later, just quit on me. then i got home and turned it on and charged it while using it for 1/ hour. now when i turn it on tells me 100 with 3 hours left.... 20.00.31 # played for about 20 min....on 100 the whoole time. then just shut off again 20.00.49 # i never did charge it overnight. i was using it right away. but the batt meter tells me 100, then it shuts off, then wont start again. 20.01.01 # i am using rockbox, but not when it is charging. it seems to be the archos charger 20.01.19 # but when i charged it in ROCKBOX, after about an hour, it shows fully charged. 100% even with charger still in. like it thinks its done 20.01.45 # then cant turn back on until plugged in again 20.01.48 # ANYONE? 20.02.13 # you killed the batteries 20.02.20 # how? 20.02.34 # by not letting them charge long enough the initial time 20.02.48 # is that even possible? 20.02.49 # now they are gone? i just got them today 20.02.53 # midknight2k3: yes 20.02.56 # wow 20.03.00 # cool! :) 20.03.07 # :( 20.03.09 # citrix7: they aren't gone, they just won't last long 20.03.24 # but the meter in rockbox says wrong info 20.03.30 # midknight2k3: the initial charge sets the max the batteries can hold, hense why it says in the manual charge for like 12 hours with no interrupt 20.03.41 # wow thats cool 20.03.44 # i never knew that 20.04.09 # i cant discharge then re-charge them? 20.04.11 # that might be reversible though 20.04.21 # deep discharge? 20.04.27 # yup 20.04.30 # using rockbox? 20.04.35 # yeah 20.04.38 # no, using a resistor 20.04.45 # ? 20.04.57 # huh 20.05.14 # lol 20.05.18 # eh? 20.06.22 # sorry, better try with rockbox ;) 20.06.34 # how can i tell if rockbox is DEEP DISCAHRGING. the batt looks the same as normal charge 20.06.47 # citrix7: run it until it stops 20.06.59 # have you got a voltmeter ? 20.07.00 # but then i cant get back into rockbox 20.07.04 # no 20.07.21 # check the charge setting 20.07.26 # if you can't get back then your battery is discharged 20.07.31 # (probably) 20.07.46 # but then when i go back inot rockbox, it says full after 1 hour 20.07.50 # 100% 20.08.19 # citrix7: that's no problem, let it run until it stops because batteries are drained 20.08.38 # then use archos charger? 20.09.12 # turn it to charge as deep discharge instead of normal 20.09.20 # i did 20.09.26 # can you do that : plug the charger, start rockbox, unplug charger, play tunes indefinitely (or keep browsing the hard disk) until it stops because the batteries are drained 20.10.03 # citrix7: does rockbox have a deep discharge setting ? I didn't know 20.10.16 # but when i reboot, the archos charger comes up. not rockbox. 20.10.16 # it does 20.10.17 # yes, it does 20.10.45 # great, then that should do it exactly 20.11.13 # no, when i do deep discharge, rockbox batt monitor looks the same as normal charging 20.11.23 # so what 20.11.30 # hmmm 20.11.42 # its the algorythm being used thats different 20.12.17 # ok, so i will leave the rockbox running tonight like its on, and let it do its thing. 20.12.42 # if you mean leave it on charging, then yeah 20.12.47 # tomorrow, if i have same problem, then i guess my new batts are gone 20.13.05 Nick BC|bbl is now known as Bluechip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 20.13.05 DBUG Enqueued KICK Bluechip 20.13.16 # & you learned a valuable lesson 20.13.30 # bluechip 20.13.30 # hey 20.13.56 # to be clear what you must do is : load the battery for 12 plain hours, then play until the batteries are completely drained 20.13.56 # ho 20.14.03 # yea, 30$ valuable 20.14.17 # the lesson being : "read the manual" ;) 20.14.27 # dont have 20.14.40 # got this from a friend 20.14.45 # ok, so it's "have the manual (and read it)" ;) 20.14.46 # had to buy charger and batts 20.14.56 # they have it online 20.15.03 # thanks for all your help 20.15.06 # everyone 20.15.19 # wait until it works to thank ;) 20.15.19 # np 20.20.21 Quit citrix7 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.21.18 # hey Laurent, any idea why "-x *.bak" is failing me in diff? 20.22.03 # is it comparing .bak even then ? 20.22.12 # yes ?:( 20.22.22 # .BAK ? 20.22.29 # no, lcs 20.22.45 # ah ok I see, it's bash 20.22.51 # try -x \*.bak 20.23.08 # bash is interpreting the star, with a \ it won't 20.23.25 # ahhaaaaa 20.24.28 # well done - experience wins the day again :) 20.24.41 Join casio [0] (~zito@p71-24.acedsl.com) 20.24.46 Quit casio (Remote closed the connection) 20.24.50 Join citrix7 [0] (NavyBear@DSL212-235-85-55.bb.netvision.net.il) 20.24.52 # would have taken me weeks to spot that! lol 20.25.05 # errare humanum est, sed perseverare diabolicum 20.25.13 # LOL 20.25.23 # never seen that in Latin before :) 20.26.44 # my mother was a latin teacher ;) 20.26.56 # lol - handy :) 20.26.57 # (she's retired) 20.27.00 # yup 20.27.26 # hence why your english is better than most birts 20.27.36 # brits 20.28.21 # thanks, but it's probably more classical 20.29.29 # you'd sertainly have a better chance at finding a use for the word sesquipedalian than most people I've ever met :) 20.29.51 # well, I'm too afraid to force while opening the case... it's going to be long ;) 20.30.00 # lol 20.30.06 # sesquipedalian ? huh, not sure I can use that word ;) 20.30.28 # it defines itself very nicely 20.30.58 # oh I see ;) 20.31.22 # (thanks merriam webster) 20.32.15 # hey top_bloke 20.32.17 # hi Bluechip 20.32.20 # hello Sebulba02 20.33.06 # evenin mk 20.33.48 # morning bc 20.34.09 # lol 20.34.20 # does anyone here have a x ray camera ? 20.34.26 # I... WISH I DID 20.34.26 # that'd be helpful ;) 20.34.49 # the first sony camcorders with nite vision could see thru clothing if that's any help 20.35.14 Quit edx{essen} (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.35.14 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.35.14 Quit top_bloke (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.35.14 Quit AciD (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.35.14 Quit methangas (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.35.14 Quit Infornogr4phy (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.35.16 # what? 20.35.18 # lol 20.35.29 # that'd be if I were trying to unlock some girls clothing but i'm trying to undress my gmini instead 20.35.31 # on a more serious note, it depends on why - if it is important i am owed a favour or two 20.35.46 # lmao 20.37.30 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.37.30 NJoin edx{essen} [0] (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.37.30 NJoin top_bloke [0] (Re69l22@dsc01-chc-il-209-109-240-9.rasserver.net) 20.37.30 NJoin AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 20.37.30 NJoin methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61de4.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 20.37.30 NJoin Infornogr4phy [0] (~UPP@c-24-130-133-225.we.client2.attbi.com) 20.37.35 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 12 minutes at the last flood 20.37.35 # * Laurent_ tries a bigger screwdriver 20.37.51 # ahhhhh, thought you might be trying to look under bga chips 20.39.12 # well, I'm trying to reach the chips first ;) 20.39.33 # so what is a "gmini"? 20.40.19 # this is a gmini : http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500447.html?sid=j22oyjjobj2k2o4bco3kyo 20.41.48 # cool - the new jukebox 20.42.10 # CF & WMA 20.42.16 # and PAY FOR PLUGINS 20.42.23 # its like 20 bux for fm recorder 20.42.27 # 30 for cf reader 20.42.31 # 20 for recording 20.42.33 # something like that 20.42.35 # shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit 20.42.39 # bullshit 20.42.42 # cheeky b*strds 20.43.01 # indeed 20.43.13 # money to enable hardware in the device 20.43.18 # two plugins free in france where I got it 20.43.23 # lol 20.43.28 # any got and tried a plugin yet and if so I hope they packet logged the entire transaction 20.43.48 # how are they free - magic serial to type in? 20.43.55 # dunno 20.43.56 # but my goal was to have rockbox on it : once the hardware is known, no more plugins to pay 20.44.02 # i think you give em your serial 20.44.08 # yup serial number of the gmini 20.44.10 # and they give you a plugin JUST FOR your box 20.44.14 # so you cant download it free 20.44.52 # wonder what encrpytion they're using 20.45.00 # serial 20.45.02 # SDD 20.45.11 # Serial Dumb Decryption = SDD 20.48.21 # anyone got a saw ? 20.48.27 # lol 20.48.28 # yes 20.48.43 # if someone didnt saws wouldnt exist 20.49.08 # was that a pun ? 20.49.16 # no 20.49.18 # just info 20.50.02 # i don't get it even though ;) 20.50.20 # IF NOBODY HAD A SAW THEN SAWS WOULD NOT EXIST 20.50.50 # back in a few 20.50.53 # sdd akk 20.50.55 # all* 20.51.00 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as MidK|BRB (zakk@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 20.51.04 # still don't, call me dumb 20.51.06 # :) 20.51.16 # i didnt 20.51.17 # oh 20.51.19 # lol 20.51.25 # ok wait 20.51.29 # listen carefully 20.51.31 # I got it 20.51.36 # ok lol 20.51.38 # nobody in the world 20.51.44 # eah 20.51.46 # yeah 20.51.50 # phew 20.51.51 # back in a efw 20.56.53 Quit citrix7 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.58.25 # anyone here use the x11 simulator? 20.58.46 # no, sorry 20.58.54 # not yet at least 20.59.04 # before I try, do you know if it will even build on a windows box 20.59.05 # ? 20.59.17 # no idea 20.59.23 # will try... 20.59.33 # with cygwin ? 20.59.36 # yes 20.59.39 # with cygwin 20.59.49 # logically it should 20.59.57 # cygwin is pretty good 21.00.16 # that's cool - just wanted to check - don't want to end up chasing a non-existent tail 21.00.30 # but I might be wrong ;) 21.00.48 # meh - you and me - that's double the votes i had two minutes ago :) 21.00.56 # lol 21.01.48 # no way to open the damn box 21.01.49 Nick MidK|BRB is now known as midknight2k3 (zakk@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.01.50 # back 21.01.51 # WAIT 21.02.01 # i use it sometimes 21.02.16 # your dev kit stable? 21.02.22 # yull need a full cygwin to build it on windows i think 21.02.29 # i dunno anymore 21.02.34 # i dont think so 21.02.40 # could be more aggro than it is worht then 21.03.07 # yeah 21.03.12 # wont RUN on windows 21.03.23 # yes, thanks 21.04.47 # YEAGJ 21.04.59 # huh I mean YEAH 21.05.03 # (cat) 21.06.08 # I got it 21.06.25 # please call me king ;) 21.06.27 # how 21.06.28 # what 21.06.29 # tell me 21.07.06 Join earHertz [0] (~chatzilla@pool-138-88-166-150.res.east.verizon.net) 21.07.36 # huh wait 21.07.50 # got to negociate keyboard access with the cat :) 21.08.03 # ear 21.08.04 # hey 21.08.08 # (dog) 21.08.09 # hey 21.08.10 # I managed to open the gmini 21.08.12 # Seen Linus? 21.08.22 # not around 21.08.23 # hope soon 21.08.33 # prolly within the next few hours 21.09.32 # oh, broke it a bit in the process 21.09.41 # how 21.09.42 # what 21.09.44 # nothing important hopefully 21.09.51 # make 21.09.51 # annoying or bad news? 21.09.52 # some plastic clips 21.09.58 # yup nothing 21.10.07 # phew 21.10.15 # science sometimes requires sacrifice ;) 21.10.50 # still runs ok 21.11.02 # i want pictures 21.11.07 # do you have a camera 21.11.14 # problem now : continue opening the gmini with cat on left arm 21.11.23 # yup 21.11.25 # wait 21.11.30 # Science? I thought you were protesting Archos's new business policy. ;) 21.11.35 # lol 21.14.58 # keyboards are surprisingly far more water tolerant than most cats 21.15.30 # yindeed. 21.16.30 # some cats love water 21.16.46 # mine jumped in my father's bath once ;) 21.16.53 # mine sat in the sink 21.16.59 # *most* ....rules are for fools to follow and for Wise Men to be guided by :) 21.17.03 # and i turned on the water and it just stayed there getting wet 21.17.18 # hmmm, the xsim build fails horrifically, even from a daily tar ball 21.17.41 # waoh 21.17.49 # guess you need *n?x to build it at all :( 21.17.55 # i'd have been afraid him to be flushed 21.18.03 # Cats don't like orange. Spritx some oramge essense on it, the cat will go away. 21.18.11 # cool 21.18.16 # wer 21.18.19 # asdf 21.18.37 # anyone here got a unix box to hand? 21.20.20 # asdf 21.20.37 # do you have any idea how annoying that is dude? 21.21.27 # is "sdd" any better? 21.22.13 # but man its my means of communication. we lower life forms prefer simple words that come out by banging the typie thingy than inputting long lones of large readable words. 21.22.44 # that's cool too just so you knew :) 21.22.47 # it's highly annoyijng, midknight2k3 21.23.05 # it also probbaly annoys anyone reading the logs 21.23.30 # but.. but... 21.23.37 # fine. 21.24.09 # we each have our own ways of making friends and enemies - lol 21.24.24 # screw you, jerkoff. ;) 21.24.30 # lol 21.24.34 # see? 21.24.42 # SDD 21.24.49 # QED 21.25.27 # i'm going to be annoying but what does all those abbrevs mean ? 21.25.28 # ;) 21.25.39 # Quad Erat Demonstradum 21.25.45 # :P 21.26.03 # Eer, Quod 21.26.13 # * Bluechip ducks as his spelling is corrected :) 21.26.21 # dfh 21.26.22 # "People called Romans, they go the house" 21.26.29 # hum, that's CQFD in french 21.26.37 # and for SDD ? 21.26.45 # dfh i say! 21.26.54 # listen carefully all 21.26.58 # mk getting bored and seeking attention :) 21.26.58 # SDD = nothing 21.26.58 # It means, "Thta is Demonstrated" in Latin 21.27.00 # ASDF = nothing 21.27.03 # DFAD = nothign 21.27.07 # lol 21.27.08 # yes 21.27.34 # Is a beat-down a form of attention? 21.27.36 # ADD 21.27.40 # lol 21.27.57 # heres a nifty trick 21.28.13 # move your fingers offset 1 key to the left, and then thry and type in SDD 21.28.13 # by the way, i'm on a linux box, someone asked this 21.28.35 # Laurent_ are there pictures 21.28.59 # indeed - if/when you get 5 mins, I like you to help me test my patch 21.29.11 # there is one, I have to get the cf card out, plug it in the archos, then usb it to the linux 21.29.20 # lmao 21.29.29 # i mean 21.29.30 # asdf 21.31.21 # plus i'm copying all my pictures to make sure I can erase the CF card (dont want to mix subject) 21.31.24 # plus i'm slow ;) 21.33.17 # ol 21.40.42 # lmao 21.40.49 # an idea for project name for rockbox: 21.40.52 # Fox-in-Sox 21.42.30 # ok got it 21.42.39 # pic? 21.44.18 # go look there : http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/gmini_1.jpg 21.44.48 # too bad the gmini can't copy pictures while attached to PC via USB 21.44.53 # wow 21.45.06 # looks neat 21.45.16 # take s'more so at the end you can put them all up :D 21.45.58 # of course, but I'll redo a batch of photos in the correct order once I figure how to do everything properly 21.49.53 # looks like one missing plastic arrow-head will be trivial 21.51.35 # you've got some weird keys on your keyboard - lol 21.51.53 # french keyboard ;) 21.51.56 # ahhhh 21.52.12 # oo i wanna see 21.52.34 # part of the cat is visible at bottom right ;) 21.52.35 # cool its the curvy L with a line in it key 21.52.41 # lol 21.53.01 # it's the british pound symbol 21.53.31 # yes, what's with a British icon on a French keyboard? 21.54.15 # notice, there's a dollar too on the same key, probably all the important money symbols when keyboards were invented ;) 21.54.37 # no quake II money back in them days 21.55.40 # right - off to spend more "quality time" with the missus - lol 21.55.48 Nick Bluechip is now known as bc|bbl (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 21.55.48 DBUG Enqueued KICK bc|bbl 21.57.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.10.07 # so, back to the gmini 22.10.20 # yea woooo 22.11.25 # I managed to have good focus settings on my camera so next pics won't be blurry 22.12.09 # yay 22.14.14 # shit i dont remember how the metallic plate went 22.14.30 # good thing I have the picture 22.14.32 # putting it back together? 22.14.48 # ok, I'm going to make pictures all the long right now or i'm dead ;) 22.15.13 # sdd 22.17.38 Nick edx{essen} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.18.20 # hmm 22.26.17 # it's even harder after removing the first half 22.26.38 # dunt bust it 22.26.40 # dont* 22.26.42 # this is not a jukebox, it's a chinese puzzle 22.26.48 # lol 22.28.01 # ok I get it 22.28.59 # I wonder if they made it harder voluntarily 22.29.15 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Be566.b.pppool.de) 22.29.42 # lol 22.29.43 # kurz 22.29.50 # did you make that track splitter right 22.30.03 # Im still on it 22.30.20 # i dont know what the keys do can you write some info? 22.30.36 # Yes, I will. 22.31.12 # does anybody know wether there was a serious reason, why playlist_peek is not a real callback function? 22.32.05 # kurz: you know the progress bar you made for the saving of the track? 22.32.13 # probably ;) 22.32.29 # It doesn't go to the very right? :) 22.33.40 # hum, I lack hands 22.33.42 # put it at the wps 22.33.44 # i like it better 22.34.02 # The progress bar? 22.34.04 # I guess those machines are assembled by xenomorph workers 22.34.19 # what the %$§ is xenomorph 22.34.22 # with at least 10 fingers per hand and 4 or 5 hands 22.34.39 # yeah 22.34.45 # or make the existing one "fill up" liek yours 22.34.59 # i like fill up better than squre moving 22.35.32 # Hm. I didn't invent it. It was in the api for ever. :) 22.35.46 # can you make a aptch for it 22.35.46 # xenomorph are an alien species from a very bad movie ;) 22.36.26 # for the xenomorph ? 22.37.24 # my life is a bad movie, too 22.37.56 # compared to this movie, it's probably a woody allen ;) 22.38.25 Quit top_bloke (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.38.42 # gotta go all 22.38.43 # byeee 22.38.48 # bakc later 22.38.50 Quit midknight2k3 () 22.39.45 # ok now I get it 22.40.01 # ? 22.40.59 # how to remove the second half of the cover 22.41.11 # without breaking the plastic bumper 22.41.25 # disassembling your gmini? 22.41.31 # yup 22.41.39 # http://lgiroud.chez.tiscali.fr/gmini_1.jpg 22.43.51 # archos are evil 22.44.09 # Then what are rockboxers? 22.44.34 # guardian angels 22.45.22 # ugh.. almost trashed the lcd with the screwdriver 22.45.35 # note for next time : be careful 22.46.38 # ok if I can't remove that cover within 5 minutes I invoke a demon 22.47.29 # i like my archos...i'm just afraid of two things... ARCHOS TECH SUPPORT...and archos MANUFACTURING.... 22.47.32 # like Bill Gates 22.47.37 # oh wait, and the price... 22.47.39 # there we go. 22.47.45 # that should scare the bejesus out of this machine 22.48.18 # Sounds as if you train your gmini to do 2004 fireworks :) 22.48.43 # I hope not ;) 22.51.27 # I wonder if an IRM would help ? 22.51.42 # hum, no it would probably trash the hard disk 22.51.43 # What's an irm? 22.52.19 # that's french for Imagerie Resonnance Magnétique 22.53.05 # Nuclear Magnetic resonance imagery 22.53.15 # ie scanner 22.54.30 # A medical device? Not like x-ray? 22.55.00 # yes 22.55.18 # scans and builds a 3D image of organs 22.57.28 # http://www.ouest-radiologie.com/fr/scanner/scanner.html 22.57.31 # (in french) 22.58.25 # http://www.epub.org.br/cm/n01/pet/petworks.htm (english) 23.02.38 # Hope I never need one. 23.03.17 # heh 23.03.29 # it's so precise that they often detect minor defects that would not be detected otherwise 23.03.56 # I thought that's what we have Zagor for. 23.04.00 # like, oh look, there's a small unusual bend on that vein, and so on 23.04.44 # an MRI in English 23.04.47 # if zagor can scan through gmini covers I have a use for him then ;) 23.07.24 # I can't believe I can't remove this cover 23.07.41 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.07.41 # * kurzhaarrocker passes Laurent_ an axe 23.08.04 # slege hammer would be better 23.08.10 # the cover may be held down by flanges on the sides 23.08.51 # | 23.08.53 # \ <-- flange 23.08.55 # | 23.09.02 # yup I have identified them and they are now unclipped, but there seem to remain some under the cover 23.09.19 # if that were true then the cover could not be removed once plugged 23.10.01 # check for screws on the bootom 23.10.03 # check for screws holding the front cover to the pcb 23.11.01 # there seem to be none 23.11.34 # but i've got an idea : the front cover might be sealed to the lcd & electronic board 23.11.35 # hmm 23.11.52 # so I should try to unplug the hard drive to gain access to the electronic 23.12.24 # perhaps 23.12.28 # has anyone answered my post on the list btw ? 23.12.31 # that might help :) 23.13.00 # no one has 23.19.10 # what a lonesome cowboy I am ;) 23.19.11 Quit lini (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.19.22 # sory 23.20.09 # why ? 23.21.33 # ok this solution looks good 23.21.45 # sorry tyou yaven't more help 23.22.19 # YES ! 23.22.21 # got it! 23.22.23 # I could give you a split editor - but it's for mp3 and not for gminis 23.23.48 Nick edx is now known as edx{harald} (edx@pD9EABA32.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.24.08 # sorry no pics, I can't transfer them now that the HD is unplugged :) 23.25.08 # the hard drives makes a cling noise when fliped 23.25.19 # I hope it's normal 23.25.24 # Is it an IBM? 23.25.40 # an Itachi travelstar 23.26.05 # QUICK THROW IT OUT OF THE WINDOW BEFORE IT EXPLODES 23.26.13 # ;) 23.26.15 # DONE 23.26.22 # hum 23.26.27 # wait 23.26.37 # ;) 23.26.50 Join meshuga [0] (firewall@12-211-43-89.client.attbi.com) 23.26.56 # anyone ever had: 23.26.56 # usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. 23.26.57 # Vendor: HITACHI_ Model: DK23DA-20 Rev: 00J2 23.26.57 DBUG Enqueued KICK meshuga 23.26.57 # Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 23.26.57 # usb-storage: queuecommand() called 23.26.59 # usb-storage: *** thread awakened. 23.27.00 # should I open the window first ? 23.27.01 # usb-storage: Bad target number (1/0) 23.27.03 # usb-storage: *** thread sleeping. 23.27.05 # usb-storage: queuecommand() called 23.27.07 # usb-storage: *** thread awakened. 23.27.09 # usb-storage: Bad target number (2/0) 23.27.13 # happen to them when they tried to connect archos to linux? 23.27.15 # i just got it back from RMA 23.27.17 # and now this bullshit 23.27.32 # Linux reflect 2.4.21 #6 Thu Aug 21 00:09:37 PDT 2003 i686 unknown 23.28.03 # Laurent: not necessary: it'll burst its way free anyway 23.28.04 # IBM used to make drives calles travelstar and they do cklick when turned. 23.28.24 # ok the front cover is "screwed" to the board 23.28.32 # if I may say so ;) 23.28.54 # kurzhaarrocker: it looks like Itachi bought a stock from IBM of these 23.29.08 # or does the archos recorder 20 use a different usb chipset? 23.29.39 # The recorder 20 uses the isd300 chip, the older models isd200, afaik 23.30.09 # there's one visible chip on board : smsc USB97C202-MN-03 23.30.40 # *shrug* 23.30.42 # Note 2: The In-System ISD-300 chip (05ab/0060) is a fully USB Mass Storage compliant chip, and therefore does not require a special driver. Just plug it in. If you want to take advantage of its' USB2.0 functionality (and you have a USB2.0 controller), you need to add USB2.0 support to your kernel. Otherwise it works just fine in USB1.1 mode too. 23.30.43 # :( 23.31.27 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.31.27 # * kurzhaarrocker *shrugs* again 23.36.04 # http://www.smsc.com/main/catalog/usb97c202.html "USB97C202 USB 2.0 ATA/ATAPI Controller" 23.39.15 Join spg [0] (jirc@rouen-1-62-147-102-120.dial.proxad.net) 23.39.22 # hi !!! 23.40.33 # hi 23.40.34 # Is a person who can helpme, I have a problem with video tools 23.41.03 # I can't 23.41.12 # ok 23.41.15 # usb-storage: USB Mass Storage device detected 23.41.15 # usb-storage: Endpoints: In: 0xcfde2894 Out: 0xcfde2880 Int: 0xcfde28a8 (Period 9) 23.41.15 # usb-storage: Found existing GUID 05ab0060fffffffffff7d96a 23.41.15 # WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured 23.41.15 # USB Mass Storage device found at 4 23.41.16 *** Alert Mode level 1 23.41.16 # root@altered:/usr/src/linux# cat /proc/bus/usb 23.41.18 # cat: /proc/bus/usb: Invalid argument 23.42.08 # bye 23.42.09 Quit spg (Client Quit) 23.42.35 # hrm 23.42.37 # meshuga: thats, uh, interesting.. 23.43.26 # ah shit , i broke a metallic part 23.44.08 # can be soldered back I hoe 23.44.10 # hope 23.44.19 # heh 23.44.23 # what are you doing? 23.44.26 # Sebulba02 : i'd say, annoying. 23.44.29 # any ideas? 23.45.01 # i guess i'll go plug it in the gfs wintendo box :( 23.45.11 # meshuga: looks like the disc is f'd up somehow, that'd be a good step 23.45.17 # disk* 23.45.34 Join Guest1 [0] (jirc@astound-66-234-214-245.ca.astound.net) 23.45.38 # i just got it back from RMA 23.45.51 # heh, maybe you need to reformat it? 23.46.07 # hello 23.46.18 # hi 23.46.40 # does anyone know about rockbox and pda issues 23.47.03 # rockbox is not (yet) a pda 23.47.04 # rockbox and pda issues? I wasn't aware rockbox would work on a pda 23.47.19 # well, that's kinda what i'm asking about 23.47.39 # it seems that all you need is a usb host controller for the pda right? 23.48.20 # ? what do you want to do with a jukebox and a pda? 23.48.35 # expand its harddrive? 23.49.01 # just want to be able to access the storage of the archos from my pocket pc 23.49.31 # then you don't need rockbox on your archos nor your pda 23.49.32 # There's nothing rockbox can do then. Drivers for the pda are necessary. 23.50.10 # nobody is making drivers for the archos for pocket pc then? 23.50.35 # Zagor made the Linux driver, I think 23.50.40 # Guest1: what you need is an usb storage driver for your pda 23.50.52 # not specifically for the archos 23.51.07 # but for the isd200 / isd300 chip 23.51.17 *** Alert Mode OFF 23.51.28 # laurant: ive tried a few none seem to work - kurz: i was looking into that but i don't have an ipaq 23.52.25 # kurz: what do you mean the isd300/isd200 chip 23.52.50 # That is the USB slave chip that makes the jukebox behave as an external usb drive. 23.53.08 # shit, I need to unsolder to gain access to the interesting part of the board 23.53.45 # so there is a linux driver for the archos slave chip 23.54.04 # ask meshuga about that :D 23.54.11 # thanks 23.54.34 # meshuga is _now_ fighting with it 23.54.47 # ok works fantastic in linux 23.54.52 # er windows 2000 23.55.15 # Guest1: what os do you have on your pocket pc ? 23.55.38 # laurent pocket pc 2002, it's toshiba genio 23.56.08 # so it's windows ce 23.56.44 # yeah, when i connect through the usb - it asks me the name of the driver i would like to install 23.57.07 # guest1: what did you mean by "but i don't have an ipaq"? Have you seen isd200 drivers for an ipaq? 23.57.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.57.32 # kurz: i heard you can run linux on an ipaq 23.57.40 # you can 23.57.42 # it rules 23.57.47 # familiar.handhelds.org 23.58.03 # i dont think ipaqs have usb host controllers 23.58.09 # so you couldnt connect an archos 23.58.13 # but casios do 23.58.23 # and i *thought* a variant of linux ran on them 23.58.31 # e115? rings a bell 23.58.34 # meshuga: can you run familiar on a toshiba genio 23.58.41 # no idea