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01.29.25 #       <[IDC]Dragon> just saying goodby for this year
01.29.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> see you all in 2004, i hope
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02.39.14 #       <kurzhaarrocker> LinusN: do you intend to include triggered recording in your task to extend rockbox with prerecording?
02.39.37 #       <LinusN> i will add the prerecording first, then triggered
02.39.44 #       <kurzhaarrocker> ok
02.39.55 #       <LinusN> only because the prerecording changes are huge
02.40.04 #       <LinusN> will commit it in a few minutes
02.40.09 #       <kurzhaarrocker> cool!
02.40.34 #       <LinusN> care to test run?
02.40.54 #       <kurzhaarrocker> me likes to test that!
02.40.58 #       <kurzhaarrocker> btw: Am I stupid or does the digital in not work atm?
02.41.12 #       <LinusN> i really hope you are stupid
02.41.17 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :)
02.42.38 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Don't dig into that before I checked all my wires _thoroughly_
02.44.32 #       <LinusN> ok
02.44.40 #       <LinusN> you have fmr or jbr?
02.49.32 #       <kurzhaarrocker> recorder 15
02.50.02 #       <LinusN> ok, can you dcc?
02.51.05 #       <kurzhaarrocker> try
02.52.09 #       <kurzhaarrocker> seems I can :)
02.52.27 #       <kurzhaarrocker> seems I can't :(
02.52.42 #       <LinusN> it might be my firewall :-(
02.52.49 #       <kurzhaarrocker> or mine
02.52.58 #       <LinusN> whichever
02.53.17 #       <BC|Code> i have ftp you can use if you like?
02.55.44 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Is there a standard port for dcc?
02.56.37 #       <LinusN> i dunno
02.57.19 #       * kurzhaarrocker tries sth, cu 
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02.59.26 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Could someone try to dcc me now?
03.03.10 #       <kurzhaarrocker> hm. tranfser by BC|Code worked, but not by LinusN
03.03.21 #       <LinusN> so it's my firewall then
03.03.36 #       <LinusN> unfortunately, i can't change it
03.03.51 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :(
03.03.56 #       <LinusN> kurzhaarrocker: got my email?
03.05.00 #       <kurzhaarrocker> not yet
03.07.17 #       <kurzhaarrocker> LinusN: you probably made a difficult patch which is not easy to transfer, either.
03.07.47 #       <BC|Code> why doesn't one of you fire up an ftp server?
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03.11.09 #       <MT> why dont you put it on chelp.org
03.11.58 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Why go the difficult ways?
03.12.25 #       <BC|Code> 21 minutes and counting ;)
03.14.16 #       <LinusN> http://linus.haxx.se/ajbrec_prerecording.ajz
03.15.00 #       <LinusN> http://linus.haxx.se/ajbrec_prerecording_fm.ajz
03.15.25 #       <kurzhaarrocker> "The requested URL /ajbrec_prerecording.ajz was not found on this server."
03.15.41 #       <LinusN> doh
03.15.46 #       <LinusN> http://linus.haxx.se/ajbrec_prerecord.ajz
03.15.50 #       <LinusN> http://linus.haxx.se/ajbrec_prerecord_fm.ajz
03.16.27 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :)
03.16.50 #       <kurzhaarrocker> gotit
03.17.07 #       <kurzhaarrocker> erm got it, to avoid misunderstandings...
03.17.29 #       <BC|Code> lol
03.20.33 #       <LinusN> there is a new recording setting, "Prerecord time"
03.23.07 #       <kurzhaarrocker> and digital in works, too
03.23.30 #       <LinusN> and it didn't before?
03.24.02 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I believe it was a problem in my signal chain, not in rockbox
03.24.41 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I can select with two switches a whole bunch of digital sources...
03.28.08 #       <BC|Code> any idea why i get "incomplete type" for this:
03.28.08 #       <BC|Code> int array[][]={{1,1},{2,2},{3,3}};
03.28.22 #       <kurzhaarrocker> cool, even the time display shows the prerecorded time
03.28.56 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I think you have to tie the inner size
03.29.10 #       <LinusN> BC|Code: you need to specify one dimension
03.29.15 #       <BC|Code> thanks
03.34.12 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Linus: works flawlessly
03.34.17 #       <LinusN> great
03.34.17 #       <kurzhaarrocker> LinusN: have you received the peakmeter patch I mailed you?
03.34.32 #       <LinusN> yes i have, i'll look into it soonish
03.34.54 #       <LinusN> i'll commit the prerecording now
03.35.27 #       <kurzhaarrocker> When prerecording is on the fn screens don't work.
03.35.32 #       <kurzhaarrocker> which makes sense
03.35.40 #       <LinusN> yeah, i know
03.35.58 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I assume it was intensional?
03.36.04 #       <LinusN> but we could allow it and restart the prerecording when the settings have changed
03.36.26 #       <kurzhaarrocker> That would be a great improvement
03.39.17 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Well, the most important thing is that the gain can be changed while recording, which does work
03.40.35 #       <LinusN> http://linus.haxx.se/ajbrec_prerecord.ajz
03.40.47 #       <LinusN> try that one
03.42.52 #       <kurzhaarrocker> LinusN: you're _fast_!
03.43.35 #       <LinusN> hehe, i had support for it, just forgot to change the f2/f3 conditions
03.46.02 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I assume "prerecording off" is stored in the prerecord time data? Background: it might be nice to toggle prerecording in the f2 screen. Keep the time, just toggle it on and off. Not really very important.
03.46.21 #       <LinusN> good idea though
03.46.35 #       <LinusN> prerecording off == 0 seconds
03.46.54 #       <kurzhaarrocker> That's what I guessed. I don't think its worth the effort then.
03.47.09 #       <LinusN> i'll keep it in mind, though
03.47.47 #       <kurzhaarrocker> The same applies to triggered recording. But here we'll want more options: off, record once, retrigger after stop.
03.48.18 #       <kurzhaarrocker> And of course just trigger recording start and stop manually / start manually, stop triggered...
03.49.04 #       <LinusN> i think a separate "arm trigger" choice
03.49.16 #       <LinusN> then it waits for the trigger, or the Play key
03.49.21 #       <BC|Code> this sounds like some more amazing "linus" code :)
03.49.30 #       <LinusN> :-)
03.50.19 #       <kurzhaarrocker> makes sense
03.50.48 #       <LinusN> gosh, i see more and more options...
03.51.02 #       <kurzhaarrocker> with triggering?
03.51.07 #       <LinusN> like, what if the user stops the recording manually, should it retrigger or not?
03.51.26 #       <kurzhaarrocker> That's what I tried to talk about above
03.51.46 #       <LinusN> "retrigger on automatic stop", "retrigger on manual stop"
03.52.26 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I thought that were items of your proposed "arm trigger" menu
03.52.43 #       <BC|Code> you might find some interesting approaches if you can borrow an MD player
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03.53.26 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I had three mds, all of them are broken now. None had the options, that were really useful
03.54.00 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Actually all they provided was to make a trackchange when silence occurred.
03.54.20 #       <kurzhaarrocker> What "silence" was, was tied fix and unchangable..
03.54.28 #       <BC|Code> wow - the ones I've played with  had a  number of features I remember finding "useful"
03.54.47 #       <BC|Code> long time now though
03.55.04 #       <LinusN> BC|Code: what kurzhaarrocker is trying to say is "you're an amateur" :-)
03.55.16 #       <kurzhaarrocker> lol
03.55.21 #       <BC|Code> lol
03.56.23 #       <kurzhaarrocker> But it is correct, that I have very special need with these automation thingies. I want to put the thing in the practice room, hit one button and it record every time we try to play something.
03.56.46 #       <BC|Code> lol - precisely what my MD experiences were 
03.57.37 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Do you remember which you had?
03.58.15 #       <BC|Code> i just go and buy the latest one at "Argos" and take it back when I'm done ...the last was an MZ-N1
03.58.29 #       <BC|Code> not always Sony ...Panasonic have some good functions too
03.59.12 #       <BC|Code> I actually hate MD ...but we were obliged to have backing tracks supplied on MD for the clubs' peace of mind
04.00.00 #       <kurzhaarrocker> There was one good Sony, the very first they invented. Everything else was unusable in real life because you couldn't change the gain while recording.
04.00.27 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Thus I never had a sony again...
04.00.51 #       <BC|Code> no, the sony's are more featured ...but not in the right places ...imho
04.01.05 #       <BC|Code> anyway ...OT ...I'm back to this code
04.01.09 #       <kurzhaarrocker> ok
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04.04.13 #       <kurzhaarrocker> One vital function for real life would be a single button (or combo) to delete the pre-last recording. Like "Lets keep that take for safety and see if we can do better" (BumbaSchranggKawumm) "Oh, we did better, lets delete that old crap we recorded before"
04.05.52 #       <LinusN> "real life" == band rehearsal
04.05.53 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Not a function a normal jukebox user would be interested though.
04.06.26 #       <kurzhaarrocker> LinusN: ok, should have been "really life" :)
04.06.54 #       <kurzhaarrocker> LinusN: I think in the long run I'll invent a plugin for band rehearsal
04.07.05 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Actually I already started some code
04.14.52 #       <LinusN> prerecording committed
04.15.04 #       * kurzhaarrocker jumps up and down in joy
04.15.45 #       <kurzhaarrocker> LinusN: what do you intend to do next?
04.15.53 #       <LinusN> sleep :-)
04.15.59 #       <BC|Code> lol
04.16.00 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :)
04.16.10 #       <kurzhaarrocker> and concerning rockbox enhancements?
04.16.17 #       <LinusN> several things
04.16.27 #       <LinusN> auto-triggered recording
04.16.34 #       <LinusN> revamped UI
04.16.43 #       <LinusN> mono-option for radio
04.17.03 #       <LinusN> file-based settings
04.17.26 #       <kurzhaarrocker> If you'd like to complete the other tasks first I could offer you to do the auto trigger thingie.
04.19.10 #       <LinusN> you could at least think through the options and the UI stuff, i.e "how do you want it to work"
04.21.18 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I think the editor for the trigger params should be together on one screen, including a peak meter for testing.
04.21.43 #       <LinusN> yeah
04.21.58 #       <kurzhaarrocker> The params are attack threshold, attack duration, attack dropout and release threshold, release hold
04.23.40 Part    scott666
04.25.50 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Something is a bit tricky: the threshold values should be displayed either in % or db, depending on global_settings.peak_meter_dbfs
04.26.56 #       <LinusN> try to express your ideas in a .txt file, so i won't have to search the logs for info
04.27.03 #       <kurzhaarrocker> ok
04.27.15 #       <kurzhaarrocker> tomorrow
04.27.32 #       <LinusN> no rush
04.28.15 #       <kurzhaarrocker> And: Thanks Linus, prerecording is a real value boost for me :)
04.28.17 #       <BC|Code> "error at end of input"  ....oh how I hate that dumb message
04.28.45 #       <BC|Code> triggered recording will be the one I use all the time :)
04.29.01 #       <LinusN> BC|Code: error at end of input?
04.29.16 #       <BC|Code> my code
04.29.25 #       <BC|Code> rewriting big chunks of it
04.29.56 #       <BC|Code> kinda required if you have plans of using it in the main code
04.30.10 #       <LinusN> ah
04.30.30 #       <BC|Code> so lots of #if 0's and comment-out's everywhere
04.31.09 #       <BC|Code> moving toward a font based system rather than a graphical system for the basic screen
04.31.27 #       <LinusN> good
04.31.37 #       <BC|Code> but I have no font creator, so I 'm having to rewrite loads of print functions
04.32.33 #       <LinusN> remember, your settings screen have to be able to use the builtin font
04.33.00 #       <BC|Code> if/when I manage to create a font it should be easy to modify
04.33.16 #       <BC|Code> but i need a 6pt font to get it all on one screen
04.33.33 #       <BC|Code> ...which is my PERSONAL aim
04.33.51 #       <BC|Code> did you have any ideas on what the "basic" MDB function should do?
04.34.03 #       <BC|Code> ...not sure the current system is best
04.34.07 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I never use 6pt fonts -> I'd never be able to use your screen
04.34.34 #       <BC|Code> so you don't get a full audio mixer on one screen
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04.35.28 #       <BC|Code> my primary aim is to create a feature that I want ...and hopefully write it in such a way as it is useful to others
04.35.36 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Not even if the screen may scroll?
04.35.49 #       <kurzhaarrocker> (vertically)
04.35.54 #       <BC|Code> not really on one screen if it's scrolling?
04.36.01 #       <BC|Code> that's like 1.2 screens?
04.36.08 #       <LinusN> mdb settings: center frequency, strength
04.36.32 #       <LinusN> expert settings would add harmonics and shape
04.36.40 #       <BC|Code> righty
04.37.06 #       <LinusN> gotta sleep now
04.37.10 #       <kurzhaarrocker> BC|Code: isn't it possible to write it in a way so that it scrolls if the font is to large?
04.37.15 #       <BC|Code> happy new year Linus
04.37.17 #       <kurzhaarrocker> LinusN dream nicely
04.37.31 #       <LinusN> happy new year to you all
04.37.47 #       <LinusN> nite
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04.37.57 #       <BC|Code> kurzhaarrocker, anything is possible - but to satisfy my own desires first
04.38.19 #       <kurzhaarrocker> do so.
04.39.01 #       <BC|Code> Have to do a re-scaling algorithm for all the icons
04.40.10 #       <kurzhaarrocker> why do you want to rescale icons?
04.40.34 #       <BC|Code> I don't ...but if others want larger fonts, then little icons will look silly
04.40.52 #       <kurzhaarrocker> icon height == line height?
04.41.04 #       <BC|Code> makes sense
04.41.32 #       <BC|Code> you got fm?
04.41.41 #       <kurzhaarrocker> hm. I think scaling icons is really difficult.
04.41.47 #       <kurzhaarrocker> no, I've got a recorder
04.42.01 #       <BC|Code> it is ...and it will look crap ..but what;s the choice?
04.42.20 #       <BC|Code> drop the GUI idea?
04.42.25 #       <BC|Code> go back to a TUI
04.42.51 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Stick with the system font and let the screen scroll a bit.
04.42.56 #       <BC|Code> In honesty I'm guessing my new screen will never make it to the main code ...and will remain a rock
04.43.15 #       <BC|Code> there are no audio icons in the standard font!?
04.43.27 #       <kurzhaarrocker> no
04.43.37 #       <BC|Code> so you think GUI is bad?
04.44.12 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I think gui is great. But it's not good to tie the user with a special font other than the system font.
04.45.10 #       <BC|Code> hmmm, but I am not writing this for the user really
04.45.27 #       <BC|Code> the user is probably happy with the restrictions that are currently in place
04.46.06 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I see the benefit of small font and fittin all into one screen though. If you have nice icons for a 6 pt font  just use them. Don't care about rescaling them online. Just my thoughts
04.46.57 #       <BC|Code> hmmm, then I settle for a 2nd rate interface :(
04.47.28 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Actually I think that the avarage user will benefit from a nice gui sound menu much more than from that prerecording feature... which I really neeeeed.
04.49.49 #       <BC|Code> brb
04.51.47 #       <BC|Code> bak
04.52.16 #       <BC|Code> how much longer you likely to be online for?
04.52.29 #       <kurzhaarrocker> only a few minutes
04.52.50 #       <BC|Code> in which case I shall bid ye a Happy New Year and let you get on :)
04.54.12 #       <kurzhaarrocker> You confuse me. In my timezone new Year still is the day after. :)
04.54.59 #       <BC|Code> i will not be online tomorrow night
04.55.15 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :(
04.55.27 #       <BC|Code> ;)
04.56.19 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I don't understand it: Linus said he comitted, but when I update I don't receive changes
04.56.33 #       <BC|Code> cvs is an illusion to me :(
04.56.40 #       <BC|Code> you anonymous cvs?
04.56.45 #       <kurzhaarrocker> yes
04.56.51 #       <BC|Code> sourceforge has a 24hr lag on anonymous cvs iirc
04.57.50 #       <kurzhaarrocker> ?!? How can that be! Do they mirror the real repository?
04.57.59 #       <BC|Code> <shrugs>
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05.03.56 #       <zsqare> yay
05.03.59 #       <zsqare> it's great
05.04.05 #       <BC|Code> it is indeed
05.04.06 #       <kurzhaarrocker> what?
05.04.10 #       <zsqare> 2.1
05.04.14 #       <BC|Code> dirty women
05.04.21 #       <zsqare> anyway
05.04.36 #       <zsqare> has anyone had a problem with dragging files with IE6?
05.04.45 #       <zsqare> just in general
05.04.50 #       <zsqare> not just to your jukebox?
05.04.56 #       <BC|Code> you got IE ported to Archos?  cool :)
05.05.01 #       <zsqare> yeah
05.05.05 #       <zsqare> not really
05.05.12 #       <zsqare> just in my computer you know
05.05.13 #       <BC|Code> bein' silly
05.05.19 #       <kurzhaarrocker> When I drag & drop my jukebox its broken.
05.05.24 #       <zsqare> lol
05.05.44 #       <BC|Code> IE??
05.05.52 #       <zsqare> ie, smartFTP
05.05.55 #       * kurzhaarrocker uses opera
05.05.56 #       <zsqare> anything
05.06.04 #       <zsqare> opera too probably
05.06.07 #       * BC|Code also uses Opera
05.06.16 #       <kurzhaarrocker> And I'm off for bed now.
05.06.20 #       <zsqare> windows won't let me drag and drop filees right now
05.06.29 #       <BC|Code> you want to drag a file from an ftp site to your archos using IE6?
05.06.33 #       <kurzhaarrocker> never had that problem.
05.06.34 #       <zsqare> no
05.06.40 #       <BC|Code> nite kurzhaarrocker
05.06.41 #       <zsqare> just from one computer to another
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05.06.59 #       <zsqare> just in "my computer"
05.07.21 #       <BC|Code> sorry, NEVER use IE, never even SEEN IE6
05.07.28 #       <zsqare> lol
05.07.31 #       <zsqare> its all good
05.07.37 #       <BC|Code> so they tell me
05.07.51 #       <zsqare> i can't figure it out
05.08.02 #       <zsqare> maybe it was this data miner i found
05.08.07 #       <zsqare> called alexis or something
05.08.55 #       <zsqare> alexa was the name
05.09.30 #       <BC|Code> you have an os i never use running an app i never use screwed up by an app i've never heard of ...sorry dude, I don't think I'm gonna be of any help here :(
05.09.40 #       <zsqare> lol
05.09.45 #       <zsqare> linux?
05.09.50 #       <BC|Code> 98se
05.09.53 #       <zsqare> dude
05.10.00 #       <zsqare> that's what i'm running
05.10.07 #       <BC|Code> LMAO
05.10.11 #       <BC|Code> oops
05.10.28 #       <BC|Code> another 98 user in the world - hooraahh
05.10.28 #       <zsqare> just a little miscommunication
05.10.52 #       <zsqare> yeah, 98 is the best that microsoft put out
05.11.02 #       <zsqare> i hear windows 2000 isn't too bad tho
05.11.04 #       <BC|Code> since dos 6.20
05.11.14 #       <BC|Code> yes, ive heard that 2k is the next os of choice
05.11.49 #       <zsqare> but yes, when i try to drag and drop files from one computer
05.11.51 #       <zsqare> to another
05.11.56 #       <zsqare> in "my computer"
05.12.06 #       <zsqare> i get an internet explorer failure
05.12.13 #       <BC|Code> do you mean "windows explorer"?
05.12.13 #       <zsqare> (IE6)
05.12.17 #       <zsqare> wait
05.12.19 #       <zsqare> maybe i do
05.12.44 #       <BC|Code> take IE6 *OFF* your machine and install Opera is my most heart-felt bit of advice
05.13.09 #       <zsqare> no, it just says explorer
05.14.45 #       <BC|Code> if you want 98 + dotnet, you can get IE5.01 from browsers.evolt.org
05.15.30 #       <BC|Code> SP2 is buggy as warm-poo, I have yet to try 5.01 and 5.01SP1
05.17.29 #       <zsqare> i had 5.00
05.17.40 #       <zsqare> but i don't think my version of explorer is bad
05.17.43 #       <BC|Code> yeah that's what comes with 98
05.18.01 #       <BC|Code> <shrugs> reinstall it is then :(
05.18.03 #       <zsqare> because i have several other comps that work just fine with it
05.18.16 #       <zsqare> i need to just reload windows
05.18.27 #       <zsqare> get rid of all the useless junk on my comp
05.18.28 #       <BC|Code> I'm amazed that someone as shrewd as you uses IE
05.18.46 #       <zsqare> i know,
05.18.55 #       <zsqare> i need to get mandrake as well
05.19.22 #       <zsqare> i just upgraded my archos
05.19.31 #       <zsqare> and now my comp won't even work
05.19.35 #       <BC|Code> rewriting chunks of mine :)
05.19.36 #       <zsqare> for me to do anything
05.19.53 #       <zsqare> what are you rewriting?
05.19.59 #       <BC|Code> audio interface
05.20.15 #       <zsqare> sweet
05.20.22 #       <zsqare> what are you doing to it?
05.20.28 #       <zsqare> adding an equalizer?
05.20.50 #       <BC|Code> lol - we don't have one in the audio decoder - but I am implementing fully every feature that we do have
05.21.11 #       <zsqare> hehe
05.21.21 #       <zsqare> yeah, i saw the amperage selector thing
05.21.27 #       <zsqare> to upgrade batteries
05.21.42 #       <zsqare> to step up from 1500 maH to 1800 maH
05.21.50 #       <BC|Code> or 21
05.22.06 #       <BC|Code> or more as the months go on :)
05.22.24 #       <zsqare> lol
05.22.52 #       <zsqare> where's the syntax for the source code?
05.23.08 #       <BC|Code> any C reference manual
05.23.19 #       <zsqare> c?
05.23.25 #       <zsqare> not c++?
05.23.25 #       <BC|Code> do you program?
05.23.27 #       <zsqare> yeah
05.23.34 #       <BC|Code> embedded?
05.23.40 #       <zsqare> no clue
05.23.47 #       <zsqare> i can do some c++ and java
05.23.57 #       <BC|Code> righty - C should be nice and easy then
05.24.03 #       <zsqare> cool
05.24.08 #       <BC|Code> just don't try and use objects or cout
05.24.14 #       <zsqare> darn
05.24.22 #       <zsqare> cout is my best friend
05.24.35 #       <zsqare> i'll figure it out
05.24.36 #       <BC|Code> learn to love lcd_putsxy
05.24.43 #       <zsqare> ok
05.25.55 #       <zsqare> i want to write a 21 program for the studio
05.26.01 #       <zsqare> nothing graphical
05.26.05 #       <zsqare> just simply text
05.26.44 #       <BC|Code> download source - ask me for 98 devkit - copy /plugin/hello_world.c 21.c .....hack away :)
05.29.37 #       <zsqare> !BC|Code-/lugin/hellow_world.c
05.29.41 #       <zsqare> maybe?
05.29.48 #       <zsqare> probably not
05.30.05 #       <BC|Code> apps/plugins
05.31.00 #       <zsqare> how do i get the devkit?
05.31.09 #       <BC|Code> dcc?
05.31.25 #       <zsqare> not, 98 devkit
05.31.39 #       <BC|Code> ??
05.32.13 #       <zsqare> sorry
05.32.27 #       <zsqare> what should i be typing?
05.32.41 #       <BC|Code> what do you want to achieve?
05.33.00 #       <zsqare> make a program for rockbox
05.33.08 #       <BC|Code> 01download source 
05.33.12 #       <zsqare> ok
05.33.30 #       <BC|Code> 01ask me for 98 devkit 
05.33.39 #       <BC|Code> then i send it to you
05.34.01 #       <zsqare> k
05.34.23 #       <zsqare> !BC|Code-98 devkit
05.34.24 #       <BC|Code> then write your plugin around the example "hello world" plugin
05.34.32 #       <zsqare> ok
05.34.36 #       <BC|Code> ahhhhh "!"
05.34.42 #       <BC|Code> sorry, got you now!
05.34.46 #       <BC|Code> d'oh
05.34.59 #       * BC|Code missed the irc request line
05.35.05 #       <zsqare> lol
05.35.25 #       <BC|Code> i meeeaaaannn... literally ask - LOL
05.35.37 #       <BC|Code> I have afiak the only working 98 devkit
05.35.43 #       <BC|Code> I bodged it together myself
05.36.16 #       <BC|Code> let me sort it out...
05.36.52 #       <zsqare> oh
05.37.06 #       <zsqare> please send me the 98 devkit
05.37.10 #       <BC|Code> lol
05.37.20 #       <BC|Code> gotta remember where i put it...
05.37.37 #       <zsqare> dude, this sounds familiar from so many times
05.37.44 #       <zsqare> with talking to other geeks
05.37.52 #       <BC|Code> I seem to have a 7MB version and a 13MB version ...I'll check
05.38.01 #       <zsqare> ok
05.38.17 #       <BC|Code> ahhh, it'll be the 7-zip one and not the .zip :)
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05.39.56 #       <zsqare> ic,
05.40.10 #       <zsqare> the if statements
05.40.14 #       <zsqare> are weird looking
05.40.20 #       <zsqare> but i can get used to that
05.40.25 #       <BC|Code> identical to c++  !!!???
05.41.05 #       <BC|Code> you got file xfr problems?
05.41.24 #       <zsqare> no, c is not identical to c++
05.41.25 #       <zsqare> wait
05.41.29 #       <zsqare> i never got that far
05.41.31 #       <zsqare> no
05.41.31 #       <BC|Code> if structures are
05.41.32 #       <zsqare> i did
05.41.43 #       <zsqare> the if statements are not identical
05.41.53 #       <BC|Code> example?
05.41.56 #       <zsqare> c++ is if(.....)
05.42.06 #       <zsqare> c is #if......
05.42.09 #       <BC|Code> LOL
05.42.26 #       <BC|Code> # statements are preprocessor directives
05.42.32 #       <zsqare> crap
05.42.38 #       <BC|Code> and are also available in C++
05.42.39 #       <BC|Code> ;)
05.42.40 #       <zsqare> well, this might take a while
05.42.44 #       <zsqare> but it's ok
05.43.07 #       <BC|Code> for your purposes you can simply leave them alone
05.43.08 #       <zsqare> wow
05.43.11 #       <zsqare> yeah
05.43.20 #       <zsqare> i might want to
05.44.22 #       <BC|Code> http://www.vectorsite.net/tscpp2.html#m3
05.45.21 #       <BC|Code> you need to press accept or something to get this dev kit
05.46.46 #       <BC|Code> you can do a cygwin install and download the sh-1 tools from the web  site if you prefer
05.47.30 #       <zsqare> lol
05.47.45 #       <zsqare> thanks for the crash course on preprocessors
05.48.12 #       <BC|Code> ur welcome - always good to learn new stuff :)
05.49.47 #       <zsqare> and i'm guessing there's a way to set individual pixels to true or false?
05.49.59 #       <BC|Code> drawpixel and clearpixel
05.50.04 #       <zsqare> k
05.50.12 #       <BC|Code> look in plugin.h
05.50.17 #       <zsqare> in case i get real crazy and try to do a worm thing
05.50.22 #       <zsqare> ok
05.50.41 #       <BC|Code> there a sprite routine et al available 
05.53.12 #       <zsqare> cool
05.53.14 #       <zsqare> well,
05.53.16 #       <zsqare> gotta go
05.53.20 #       <zsqare> thanks
05.53.22 Part    zsqare
05.53.24 #       <BC|Code> byeeeeee
06.00.20 Part    BC|Code
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07.45.10 #       <Gary> Can I ask a question about adding Rockbox to my Studio Jukebox 20?
07.45.10 #       <midknight2k3> hi
07.45.13 #       <midknight2k3> sure
07.45.42 #       <Gary> Thanks - i love it, but now my jukebox wont recognize my old playlists
07.46.20 #       <midknight2k3> hrm
07.46.31 #       <midknight2k3> .m3u files?
07.46.35 #       <midknight2k3> and rockbox won't load them?
07.46.45 #       <Gary> i can see the playlist (yes, m3u)
07.46.56 #       <Gary> and rockbox will load them
07.47.10 #       <Gary> but it just runs a while and then says "end of list"
07.47.19 #       <Gary> never plays the songs like it used to
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07.47.23 #       <midknight2k3> that means there are no more tracks in the playlist
07.47.29 #       <midknight2k3> are you sure shuffle isn't on?
07.47.45 #       <Gary> yeah - im sure
07.48.00 #       <midknight2k3> archos firmware plays them OK?
07.48.20 #       <Gary> yes - i uninstalled the rockbox, and they play just like they used to
07.48.36 #       <midknight2k3> which version are you running? pretty odd
07.48.45 #       <Gary> just installed 2.1
07.49.10 #       <midknight2k3> so it plays some but not all then says "end of song list"?
07.49.23 #       <Gary> doesn't play even one song
07.49.30 #       <Gary> it's as if
07.49.31 #       <midknight2k3> oh
07.49.36 #       <midknight2k3> ohh
07.49.48 #       <Gary> it's saying the m3u file is empty now
07.49.51 #       <Gary> ????
07.50.01 #       <midknight2k3> well, it should be compatible with archos playlists too...
07.50.10 #       <midknight2k3> file a bug report, and see what they say
07.50.19 #       <midknight2k3> and if you come back tomorrow there might be somone else to help
07.50.19 #       <Gary> how do i do that?
07.50.27 #       <Gary> ok
07.50.42 #       <midknight2k3> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=44306&atid=439118
07.50.50 #       <Gary> thanks!
07.51.00 #       <midknight2k3> yeah. hopefully someone can help more than i :)
07.51.09 #       <midknight2k3> playlist specialist = hardeep
07.52.09 #       <Gary> thanks
07.52.28 #       <midknight2k3> np
07.52.37 #       <midknight2k3> er wait
07.54.54 #       <midknight2k3> hrm never mind
07.59.29 #       <Gary> thanks for the website - looks like it's a path-direction problem
07.59.36 #       <midknight2k3> yes
07.59.40 #       <midknight2k3> my best guess
07.59.45 #       <midknight2k3> but if it plays ok in archos...
07.59.48 #       <Gary> when a playlist is created on the pc and then transferred to the archos
07.59.57 #       <midknight2k3> oh
08.00.00 #       <Gary> the old firmware could figure it out
08.00.01 #       <midknight2k3> is that the case
08.00.05 #       <Gary> but rockbox can't
08.00.05 #       <midknight2k3> odd
08.00.15 #       <midknight2k3> make sure you let someone know
08.00.19 #       <midknight2k3> other than me
08.00.20 #       <midknight2k3> lol
08.00.27 #       <Gary> tomorrow (i must sleep) i am going to try recreating some playlists
08.00.34 #       <Gary> on the archos itself
08.00.34 #       <midknight2k3> lol ok
08.00.40 #       <Gary> thanks again!
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08.43.19 #       <ely78373> yo
08.43.30 #       <midknight2k3> hey
08.43.46 #       <ely78373> whats this doom im reading about on the site?
08.43.51 #       <midknight2k3> video player
08.44.02 #       <midknight2k3> watch videos on archos recorder/fm recorder models
08.44.13 #       <ely78373> i have a recorder 15
08.44.16 #       <ely78373> i can watch videos
08.44.18 #       <midknight2k3> then it will work for you
08.44.19 #       <midknight2k3> yes
08.44.22 #       <ely78373> how?
08.44.32 #       <midknight2k3> it's not perfect but it's about 5x more than what you'd expect from the screen
08.44.50 #       <ely78373> cool
08.44.54 #       <midknight2k3> you need a video program to convert your videos to AVI uncompressed and to the size 112x64
08.45.05 #       <midknight2k3> and that's about it... a few small tools and thats it
08.45.16 #       <midknight2k3> tools are provided.. you need to size it yourself
08.45.20 #       <ely78373> whats the video program
08.45.25 #       <midknight2k3> program?
08.45.29 #       <midknight2k3> you just need anyone
08.45.33 #       <midknight2k3> to convert it
08.45.38 #       <midknight2k3> hrm
08.45.41 #       <midknight2k3> we should get a tool for that
08.46.07 #       <ely78373> i dont know how to convert my videos
08.46.13 #       <midknight2k3> yeah hang on
08.47.04 #       <ely78373> aigh
08.47.09 #       <midknight2k3> are you on broadband?
08.47.13 #       <midknight2k3> there may be a tool for it
08.47.16 #       <midknight2k3> but it's 15mb
08.47.48 #       <ely78373> yeh i am
08.47.53 #       <midknight2k3> good
08.47.57 #       <midknight2k3> just a second more..
08.48.00 #       <ely78373> thanx
08.48.51 #       <ely78373> i already d/l the ajbrec.ajz & the video.rock
08.48.56 #       <midknight2k3> good
08.49.06 #       <midknight2k3> ok let me make sure this tool works
08.49.49 #       <ely78373> ok
08.50.40 #       <midknight2k3> i think it works
08.50.40 #       <midknight2k3> yay
08.50.46 #       <midknight2k3> 55 more secs
08.50.50 #       <midknight2k3> till see if its done
08.50.58 #       <ely78373> cool
08.50.59 #       <ely78373> thanx
08.51.22 #       <midknight2k3> yeah np, actually i might use this instead of Vegas :)
08.51.43 #       <midknight2k3> ok done
08.51.46 #       <midknight2k3> lets see if it worked
08.52.34 #       <midknight2k3> YEEA!
08.52.36 #       <midknight2k3> i love this
08.52.47 #       <midknight2k3> and you can select a batch of files to convert for AFK doing :D
08.52.49 #       <midknight2k3> great.
08.53.11 #       <midknight2k3> get this:
08.53.11 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.filehog.com/bpsvcd11.exe
08.53.37 #       <ely78373> ok
08.53.39 #       <ely78373> its d/l
08.53.42 #       <ely78373> a minute left
08.53.44 #       <midknight2k3> but dont go yet
08.53.51 #       <ely78373> ok
08.54.03 #       <ely78373> thanx alot for the help
08.54.05 #       <ely78373> were u from
08.54.21 #       <midknight2k3> seattle
08.54.31 #       <ely78373> im in ny
08.54.43 #       <midknight2k3> cold? snowy? wet?
08.54.43 #       <ely78373> i was uplate with my friend helpin me with my comp
08.54.43 #       <midknight2k3> lol
08.54.53 #       <ely78373> i was havein ram problems
08.55.00 #       <midknight2k3> blech
08.55.02 #       <ely78373> it was actualy very nice today
08.55.12 #       <midknight2k3> snowing here
08.55.15 #       <midknight2k3> if you can believe it
08.55.15 #       <ely78373> cool
08.55.25 #       <ely78373> ok d/l finsihed should i install
08.55.27 #       <midknight2k3> yes
08.55.31 #       <midknight2k3> install all it asks for
08.55.36 #       <midknight2k3> windows media codecs too
08.56.01 #       <ely78373> i have those already i think but ok
08.56.26 #       <ely78373> whats this windows media 9 setup runtime
08.56.26 #       <midknight2k3> it shoudl just update them if they exist
08.56.30 #       <midknight2k3> install that
08.56.34 #       <ely78373> ok
08.57.30 #       <ely78373> ok i finished installin
08.57.47 #       <midknight2k3> ok run the program
08.58.20 #       <ely78373> i need a reg key
08.59.03 #       <midknight2k3> just hit trial
08.59.41 #       <ely78373> ok
08.59.56 #       <ely78373> ok im in
09.00.02 #       <midknight2k3> now
09.00.05 #       <midknight2k3> got the video file there>?
09.00.09 #       <midknight2k3> press the add button
09.00.15 #       <midknight2k3> its a red folder icon at the top left
09.00.25 #       <ely78373> ok i added a video
09.00.29 #       <midknight2k3> navigate to the file(s) and select them and add
09.00.32 #       <midknight2k3> now for the settings
09.00.37 #       <midknight2k3> make sure "convert to AVI" is checked
09.00.50 #       <midknight2k3> framerate: 29.97
09.01.07 #       <ely78373> this is how it should always be
09.01.08 #       <ely78373> ?
09.01.11 #       <midknight2k3> yes
09.01.12 #       <ely78373> ok
09.01.19 #       <midknight2k3> one more thing
09.01.26 #       <midknight2k3> choose "video settings"
09.01.38 #       <midknight2k3> "output file resolution: custom"
09.01.40 #       <ely78373> ok
09.01.49 #       <midknight2k3> and put in 112 for the first box, 64 for the second
09.02.09 #       <ely78373> ok
09.02.12 #       <midknight2k3> hit ok and thats it. specify the path if you like in the lower left
09.02.16 #       <midknight2k3> and hit Convert >>
09.02.53 #       <ely78373> it says decompile
09.03.03 #       <midknight2k3> under htat
09.03.04 #       <midknight2k3> that*
09.03.10 #       <ely78373> cancel
09.03.33 #       <midknight2k3> should have a button "decompile" and one "convert"
09.03.36 #       <midknight2k3> at the bottomleft?
09.03.58 #       <ely78373> yeh its goin
09.04.11 #       <ely78373> it always takes this long for a music video
09.04.17 #       <midknight2k3> ok
09.04.27 #       <midknight2k3> ohh
09.04.33 #       <midknight2k3> you already hit convert
09.04.33 #       <midknight2k3> ok
09.04.50 #       <ely78373> after its converted i just put it on my archos
09.05.00 #       <midknight2k3> no
09.05.04 #       <midknight2k3> a few more steps
09.05.08 #       <midknight2k3> sadly
09.05.26 #       <ely78373> ok
09.05.33 #       <ely78373> it will be cool if this works
09.05.37 #       <ely78373> what archos do u have
09.05.39 #       <midknight2k3> i should write a batch file that will do the converting from avi to yuv to rvf a simple process
09.05.40 #       <midknight2k3> fmr
09.05.41 #       <midknight2k3> 20
09.05.58 #       <ely78373> my friend just got the gmini
09.06.07 #       <midknight2k3> boo
09.06.07 #       <midknight2k3> lol
09.06.12 #       <ely78373> ok its converted
09.06.13 #       <ely78373> lol
09.06.15 #       <midknight2k3> ok
09.06.16 #       <midknight2k3> now
09.07.07 #       <midknight2k3> http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/source.zip
09.07.09 #       <midknight2k3> get that
09.07.40 #       <ely78373> got it
09.07.40 #       <midknight2k3> and unzip halftone.exe and avitoyuv.exe to a certain path you want (i prefer c:\rvf since the files are .rvf)
09.08.49 #       <ely78373> u mean extract
09.08.58 #       <midknight2k3> whatever lol
09.09.02 #       <ely78373> my bad
09.09.25 #       <ely78373> ok i did that
09.09.35 #       <midknight2k3> then
09.09.38 #       <midknight2k3> do start, run
09.09.47 #       <midknight2k3> put in "cmd" without the quotes, and hit enter
09.10.05 #       <midknight2k3> should be a command prompt
09.10.18 #       <ely78373> yeh
09.10.28 #       <midknight2k3> do you know much abotu navigating in DOS?
09.10.54 #       <midknight2k3> do "cd .." until it says <C:> at the side
09.10.56 #       <ely78373> i wish i did but i dont
09.11.01 #       <midknight2k3> its not that hard
09.11.08 #       <midknight2k3> just do cd .. till you get to c:\
09.11.34 #       <midknight2k3> then "cd rvf" if that's where you extracted to
09.12.11 #       <midknight2k3> or whatever folder
09.12.24 #       <midknight2k3> if it's c:\stuff\rvf, do "cd stuff" then "cd rvf"
09.12.59 #       <ely78373> not recognized
09.13.04 #       <ely78373> i suck at this
09.13.05 #       <midknight2k3> what did you try
09.13.08 #       <midknight2k3> its not too hard lol
09.13.15 #       <midknight2k3> ok what folder is it extracted to
09.13.23 #       <ely78373> the one that u told me
09.13.33 #       <midknight2k3> c:\rvf?
09.13.37 #       <ely78373> yeh
09.13.40 #       <midknight2k3> then do cd .. until by the side it says c:
09.13.42 #       <midknight2k3> then do
09.13.43 #       <midknight2k3> cd rvf
09.13.55 #       <ely78373> i did cd..................................
09.14.03 #       <midknight2k3> how many dots?! lol
09.14.04 #       <ely78373> and it never said c:
09.14.14 #       <midknight2k3> what does it say by the side
09.14.29 #       <midknight2k3> like "c:\documents and settings\<username>" ?
09.14.32 #       <ely78373> yeh
09.14.53 #       <midknight2k3> do:
09.14.54 #       <midknight2k3> cd ..
09.15.08 #       <midknight2k3> that should make it say "c:\documents and settings"
09.15.12 #       <midknight2k3> then do cd .. again
09.15.20 #       <ely78373> ok got it
09.15.21 #       <midknight2k3> then it should say "c:"
09.15.25 #       <midknight2k3> then do cd rvf
09.15.30 #       <midknight2k3> cd = change dir
09.15.35 #       <midknight2k3> .. means UP
09.15.41 #       <midknight2k3> otherwise it's in
09.15.43 #       <midknight2k3> ok
09.15.48 #       <ely78373> ok im in that
09.15.57 #       <midknight2k3> now move your output file from the video converter into the RVF folder
09.16.23 #       <ely78373> huh?
09.16.32 #       <ely78373> the video that i converted is on my desptop
09.16.44 #       <midknight2k3> move it from there to the RVF folder then
09.17.14 #       <ely78373> sorry im such an iliterate
09.17.21 #       <midknight2k3> lol its ok
09.17.46 #       <ely78373> ok did that
09.18.00 #       <midknight2k3> ok now for the long part
09.18.07 #       <ely78373> lol
09.18.20 #       <midknight2k3> first, you run the avitoyuv program with the format:
09.18.30 #       <midknight2k3> avitoyuv <input.avi> <output.yuv>
09.18.45 #       <midknight2k3> so if it were a movie "whatsitcalled" you were converting
09.18.47 #       <midknight2k3> it'd be:
09.19.00 #       <midknight2k3> avitoyuv whatsitcalled.avi whatsitcalled.yuv
09.19.08 #       <midknight2k3> or you can rename the last one if you want
09.19.12 #       <midknight2k3> thats what it will save to
09.19.17 #       <midknight2k3> following me?
09.19.41 #       <ely78373> how do i run the progfram
09.19.59 #       <ely78373> i double click it and nothin happens
09.20.18 #       <midknight2k3> no
09.20.21 #       <midknight2k3> from the command prompt
09.20.23 #       <midknight2k3> type that in
09.23.57 #       <ely78373> it said was unexpected at this time
09.24.54 #       <midknight2k3> ?
09.24.56 #       <ely78373> im gonna go the bed and try this someother time
09.24.59 #       <midknight2k3> ok
09.25.01 #       <ely78373> thanx anyway
09.25.02 #       <midknight2k3> come back next time
09.25.03 #       <midknight2k3> ok
09.25.04 #       <midknight2k3> wait
09.25.09 #       <midknight2k3> if you do want to try it later
09.25.16 #       <midknight2k3> the format is the same for halftone
09.25.29 #       <midknight2k3> but you do: halftone <input.yuv> <output.rvf>
09.25.36 #       <midknight2k3> just the extensions are different
09.25.45 #       <midknight2k3> then you can play the video by playing it on your archos
09.25.48 #       <midknight2k3> the RVF file
09.26.22 #       <ely78373> cool thanx
09.26.33 #       <midknight2k3> np
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10.14.55 #       <midknight2k3> hi edx
10.15.05 #       <edx> hi
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10.20.50 #       <midknight2k3> hi webmind
10.27.23 #       <midknight2k3> nite all
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15.36.57 #       <diddystar5> is there anyone that knows alot about linux here (and maybe dual booting)
15.36.58 #       <diddystar5> ?
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15.48.48 #       <oxygen77> what is your pb
15.49.54 #       <diddystar5> im trying to dual boot lnux and windows with 2 hard drives
15.50.04 #       <diddystar5> and grub want start windows
15.50.16 #       <Laurent_> diddystar5: grub ? huh, don't know grub at all
15.50.21 #       <Laurent_> sorry
15.50.27 #       <diddystar5> and my windows drive is formated ntfs if it makes any differnce
15.52.26 #       <oxygen77> what distro are you using
15.53.45 #       <diddystar5> red hat.
15.54.43 #       <diddystar5> when  icommand grub to start windows is goes chain loader +1 and just sits there
15.55.10 #       <diddystar5> oh,     and for doing that, linux drive was set to master, and windows drive set to slave         if it matters
15.56.00 #       <oxygen77> ok I wont be able to help you,
15.56.13 #       <oxygen77> I always install both system on the same disk
15.56.40 #       <diddystar5> well, it should be sorta similar
15.56.48 #       <diddystar5> what do you use to dual boot?
15.56.59 #       <oxygen77> I use lilo
15.57.16 #       <oxygen77> installed on mbr
15.59.42 #       <diddystar5> i have some ideas
15.59.45 #       <diddystar5> see you
15.59.48 #       <diddystar5> thanks
15.59.51 #       <oxygen77> cu
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16.23.58 #       <webmind> cos its fun? :)
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18.31.20 #       <Strath> hrm... Laurent is not here
18.32.04 #       <Strath> was hoping to toss in on the gmini project
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19.05.23 #       <hoodibaba> Hi guys. I cam in here to say thanks for rockbox
19.05.30 #       <hoodibaba> It realls rocks !!!
19.12.01 #       <Strath> think they're sleeping
19.15.43 #       <hoodibaba> May be
19.15.56 #       <hoodibaba> Well so you use rockbox too
19.16.14 #       <Strath> i've been here only a short while
19.17.05 #       <hoodibaba> Rockbox is really good man. It just changes the way we look at players too. The amount of info on the website is too good too.
19.17.05 #       <Strath> I just had my 6000 replaced under a store service plan
19.17.45 #       <hoodibaba> What went wrong 
19.18.07 #       <Strath> they replaced with a gmini120 and I went looking for information about it, then discorved rockbox... doh
19.19.29 #       <Strath> I was not satisfied with the interface and my 2 year service/replacment plan was about to expire, (oh, and the adapter plug came unsoldered)
19.20.03 #       <hoodibaba> Hey gmini120 is coool man !
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19.21.14 #       <Strath> i know... but the first unit they gave be was dead out of the box
19.21.26 #       <Strath> s be/me
19.21.59 #       <Strath> (and it's one hour each way to the store)
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20.15.16 #       <Strath> la la la
20.15.26 #       <midknight2k3> LA LA LA LA LAAA
20.23.36 #       <Strath> hey mid
20.24.29 #       <Strath> reverse engineering the gmini is fun :)
20.25.51 #       <midknight2k3> lol
20.25.59 #       <midknight2k3> got a project started?
20.27.04 #       <Strath> well... in a colaborative way.... no..
20.27.26 #       <midknight2k3> you should, at sourceforge and all
20.28.26 #       <Strath> first i'm getting up to speed on the work of the others
20.28.49 #       <Strath> i just got a (working) gmini today
20.29.25 #       <midknight2k3> nice
20.29.26 #       <Strath> so now i can start *real* work on it
20.32.26 #       <Strath> i'm waiting for Laurent to show up...
20.35.45 #       * midknight2k3 taps fingers
20.38.55 #       <Strath> heh, well i'm also tracking down documentation while i wait :)
20.40.39 #       <midknight2k3> FINE THEN
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20.45.32 #       <Strath> heh... sorry,  are you feeling ignored?
20.45.47 #       <kurzhaarrocker> not yet
20.46.37 #       <Strath> not you dumb arse
20.46.44 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :)
20.46.56 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Just ignore me then
20.47.09 #       <Strath> ok, sure thing
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20.50.35 #       <midknight2k3> sorry lol busy what
20.50.36 #       <midknight2k3> no
20.50.39 #       <midknight2k3> just kidding
20.50.44 #       <midknight2k3> lmao
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21.17.36 #       <MidK|AWAY> there
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21.37.11 #       <midk-afk> yo
21.37.16 #       <midk-afk> bluey
21.37.19 #       <BC|Code> im gone in 2mins
21.37.20 #       <BC|Code> :)
21.37.23 #       <midk-afk>  lol 
21.37.26 #       <BC|Code> hey hey m k
21.37.32 #       <BC|Code> two things.....
21.37.48 #       <midk-afk> ?
21.37.52 #       <BC|Code> 1. H-A-P-P-Y  N-E-W  Y-E-A-R  E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y
21.37.58 #       <midk-afk> YEAH
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21.38.07 #       <BC|Code> 2....
21.38.12 #       * BC|Code sniggers
21.38.13 #       <midk-afk> i should make a new years patch lol
21.38.17 #       <Strath> oy
21.38.24 #       <BC|Code> oi oi
21.38.42 #       <BC|Code> What do we have in the way of floating point features for our C code?
21.38.50 #       <midk-afk> thats 2?
21.39.03 #       <BC|Code> my Q is 2 :)
21.39.15 #       <midk-afk> loo
21.39.17 #       <midk-afk> lol
21.39.43 #       <BC|Code> but I don't think the right people are here to know :( ...never mind
21.39.50 #       <midk-afk> double and float
21.39.53 #       <midk-afk> :D
21.40.05 #       <BC|Code> we can use them in rockbox?
21.40.09 #       <midk-afk> afaik, yes
21.40.19 #       <BC|Code> i wasn't sure that we had a floating point emulator
21.40.30 #       <midk-afk> i think we do
21.40.33 #       <midk-afk> brb
21.41.03 #       <BC|Code> cool - that'll give me another approach to consider whilst I stay sober tonight (anit-biotics :( )
21.43.09 #       <midk-afk> lol;
21.43.47 #       <Strath> um... probly don't want to use floating point, even if availible
21.44.30 #       <Strath> if at all possible, use a table
21.46.40 #       <BC|Code> yeah - i'll probably just bodge it by pushing it all up a few decimal places
21.46.55 #       <BC|Code> it's fixed point, so it should be simple enough
21.47.02 #       <midk-afk> lol
21.47.10 #       <BC|Code> i'll just lose a little accuracy
21.47.12 #       <Strath> (floating point chews up a lot of cpu)
21.47.20 #       <midk-afk> sddasddfdfdasd
21.47.24 #       <midk-afk> sorry
21.47.30 #       <midk-afk> ;)
21.47.36 #       <BC|Code> cpu time is only a problem when you are short of it
21.48.11 #       <BC|Code> anway - thanks guys - i'm off now - enjoy yourselves
21.48.24 #       <Strath> that usually works, (unless the value might overflow the data size)
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21.48.45 #       <Strath> bubye
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21.51.58 #       <midk-afk> lol
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22.09.46 #       <arspy87> hey all
22.09.51 #       <midknight2k3> yo yo yo
22.10.16 #       <arspy87> whats up
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22.13.51 #       <midknight2k3> yo yo yo
22.14.02 #       <Strath> oy oy oy
22.14.11 #       <arspy87> sup sup sup
22.14.17 #       <midknight2k3> erm.. no.
22.14.23 #       <Strath> heh
22.14.24 #       <arspy87> lol
22.14.45 #       <arspy87> yay fireworks tonight
22.14.56 #       <Strath> grr... tracking down dsp specs is rather dificult
22.14.56 #       <arspy87> wow i'm a pyro
22.16.16 #       <Strath> grr...
22.16.50 #       <Strath> ok... who here knows how to crack password websites?
22.16.55 #       <midknight2k3> SD!
22.22.36 #       <Strath> ?
22.25.45 #       <arspy87> if(midk.text=="SDD") {midk==affirmative(previous inquiry)}
22.25.53 #       <arspy87> =*
22.26.01 #       <midknight2k3> close actually
22.26.13 #       <midknight2k3> actually
22.26.17 #       <midknight2k3> that could work in C
22.26.42 #       <arspy87> oh i was doing it in actionscript syntax, but its sorta like C
22.26.50 #       <midknight2k3> visual basic
22.27.00 #       <midknight2k3> basic it'd work in
22.27.05 #       <Strath> hrm?
22.27.06 #       <midknight2k3> and C if you setup the right variables
22.27.46 #       <arspy87> if(midk.text==math.random();) {midk=affirmative(anything)} ;)
22.27.52 #       <arspy87> oops
22.27.58 #       <arspy87> darn emotes
22.28.04 #       <midknight2k3> i dont se them
22.28.09 #       <arspy87> oh good
22.28.10 #       <midknight2k3> its cause you use TRILL SUCK
22.28.20 #       <arspy87> O:)
22.28.31 #       <midknight2k3> actually thats busted code
22.28.37 #       <arspy87> yeah i know lol
22.28.41 #       <midknight2k3> oh wait
22.28.50 #       <midknight2k3> is that a wink at the very end
22.28.51 #       <arspy87> need to be random number of random characters
22.28.52 #       <Strath> so what does that mean reguarding my querry?
22.28.52 #       <midknight2k3> or part of code?
22.29.02 #       <arspy87> the wink at the very end is a wink
22.29.06 #       <arspy87> the other wink in the middle isnt
22.29.13 #       <midknight2k3> what query?
22.29.28 #       <arspy87> query woo
22.29.59 #       <arspy87> where's blue?
22.30.13 #       <midknight2k3> GONE
22.30.29 #       <Strath> web cracking...ya ya.. i kow i cant speel
22.32.10 #       <Strath> ok, i'll shut up about that aspect of my frustration
22.33.00 #       <midknight2k3> this may work for good code:
22.33.01 #       <midknight2k3> #include "stdio.h"
22.33.02 #       <midknight2k3> void true(void);
22.33.04 #       <midknight2k3> void false(void);
22.33.08 #       <midknight2k3> void main()
22.33.11 #       <midknight2k3> {
22.33.12 #       <midknight2k3>     char string[20];
22.33.14 #       <midknight2k3>     char sdd = "sdd";
22.33.18 #       <midknight2k3>     printf("Enter text here: \n");
22.33.21 #       <midknight2k3>     scanf("%s", string);
22.33.24 #       <midknight2k3>     if(string=sdd)
22.33.26 #       <midknight2k3> 	printf("Hey fatso!\n");
22.33.28 #       <midknight2k3>     else
22.33.33 #       <midknight2k3> 	printf("Learn to spell.\n");
22.33.34 #       <midknight2k3> }
22.33.36 #       <midknight2k3> er the true/false isnt needed
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23.08.02 #       <arspy87> hey kurz
23.08.05 #       <cYmen> namd
23.08.09 #       <kurzhaarrocker> hey
23.08.15 #       <cYmen> ' evenin'
23.08.18 #       <midknight2k3> hi
23.08.22 #       <kurzhaarrocker> What's that noise outside?
23.08.43 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Sounds as if something explodes.
23.08.47 #       <midknight2k3> cool
23.08.47 #       <cYmen> what is the maximum dir buffer?
23.08.49 #       <midknight2k3> #newyears
23.08.50 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.08.58 #       <midknight2k3> 4000 files or so
23.09.04 #       <midknight2k3> or was it 10000
23.09.17 #       <kurzhaarrocker> You can adjust it nowadays
23.10.05 #       <cYmen> hm...can't be
23.10.14 #       <cYmen> there aren't so many in there
23.10.20 #       <midknight2k3> OMG
23.10.26 #       <midknight2k3> #newyears has like 300 people in it
23.10.29 #       <midknight2k3> its so hard to read
23.10.46 #       <cYmen> uh that reminds me of sth
23.10.51 #       <cYmen> i m off havin a drink with my friends ;)
23.10.53 #       <cYmen> cya
23.10.54 #       <midknight2k3> bye
23.11.05 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I don't drink :)
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23.16.03 #       <StrathAFK> bbiam
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23.16.25 #       <kurzhaarrocker> ??
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23.27.11 #       <kurzhaarrocker> patch uploaded :)
23.27.17 #       <midknight2k3> WHAT PATCH
23.27.21 #       <midknight2k3> TRACK SPLITTER?!
23.27.26 #       <kurzhaarrocker> volume triggered recording
23.27.36 #       <midknight2k3> oohh
23.27.39 #       <midknight2k3> uhmmm
23.27.43 #       <midknight2k3> auto gain control
23.27.45 #       <midknight2k3> AGC
23.27.51 #       <kurzhaarrocker> no not that
23.27.59 #       <midknight2k3> er
23.28.02 #       <midknight2k3> oh
23.28.07 #       <midknight2k3> no its
23.28.21 #       <kurzhaarrocker> You put the thin on the table and it doesn't record unless something goes BANG
23.29.06 #       <midknight2k3> recording auto detection
23.29.12 #       <midknight2k3> RAD
23.29.44 #       <kurzhaarrocker> And you can adjust the setting so that a single BANG is ignored, but that there has to be BANGBANGBANGBANG for 2 minutes
23.30.16 #       <midknight2k3> kurzhaarrocker: what are the settings?
23.30.29 #       <midknight2k3> like, volume or noise and decay time?
23.30.33 #       <midknight2k3> volume of noise*
23.31.37 #       <kurzhaarrocker> start threshold, minimal duration of starthreshold, stop threshold, minimal timespan of silence to stop, use the trigger, use it once, or rearm it automatically after recording has stopped
23.34.36 #       <kurzhaarrocker> concerning the split editor: I think I'll delay the upload of that patch until the mpeg engine has been redesigned. 
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23.35.28 #       <midknight2k3> whoa
23.35.38 #       <midknight2k3> kurzhaarrocker: very nice work
23.36.16 #       <kurzhaarrocker> not really: When the peak meter is set to db, changing the thresholds doesn't work as expected.
23.36.50 #       <kurzhaarrocker> And I suppos Linus will slay me for shreddering his lovely record.c code...
23.37.28 #       <midknight2k3> lmao
23.37.48 #       <kurzhaarrocker> And the settings dont restore themselves yet. But you can store / load them from a cfg.
23.38.05 #       <kurzhaarrocker> What's Imao?
23.38.50 #       <midknight2k3> L m a o
23.39.03 #       <midknight2k3> consider it "lol"
23.39.21 #       <kurzhaarrocker> k
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23.58.25 #       <kurzhaarrocker> See you next year.
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