--- Log for 08.01.104 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 25 days and 10 hours ago 00.03.17 Join baz [0] (~baz@modem-1973.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) 00.05.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.06.30 # ... 00.06.56 # ..... 00.07.00 # Zagor: btw, did daniel make a splash() HOWTO ? 00.07.00 # ..... 00.07.02 # :D 00.07.09 # :) 00.07.22 # i know the format 00.08.25 # void splash(int ticks, /* how long */ 00.08.25 # int keymask, /* what keymask aborts the waiting (if any) */ 00.08.25 # bool center, /* FALSE means left-justified, TRUE means 00.08.25 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 00.08.25 # horizontal and vertical center */ 00.08.25 # char *fmt, /* what to say *printf style */ 00.08.25 *** Alert Mode level 1 00.08.25 # ...) 00.08.58 # i have to go 00.09.08 # bye quelsaruk 00.09.10 # hope it helps 00.09.12 # i'll need a new splash function 00.09.22 # splash_menu() 00.09.26 # oh? 00.09.26 # or something like that 00.09.27 # OH 00.09.32 # for your neat menus 00.09.36 # yups :) 00.09.38 # cool 00.09.40 # they looked neat 00.09.57 # cu another day... 00.10.03 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 00.12.37 Quit Atrack ("Leaving") 00.18.26 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.23.23 Quit baz (Remote closed the connection) 00.46.30 Join top_bloke [0] (~ekolb_pot@dsc02-chc-il-199-35-146-77.rasserver.net) 00.47.55 # toppy 00.48.29 # word 00.48.29 # hey 00.48.38 # sddd. 00.49.36 # asdf 00.49.42 Quit _aLF ("bye") 00.50.58 # u hear about the new ipod 00.51.12 # yeah how cute 00.51.17 # pink and green 00.51.21 # ? 00.51.25 # ?? 00.51.35 # don't be a hata 00.51.41 # oh i havnt seen it 00.51.48 # just heard on the newws 00.52.03 # its pretty ugly 00.52.05 # why u hatin? 00.52.25 # u know how much $ it cost? 00.52.26 # u'd hate if u saw it 00.52.29 # 249 00.53.06 # i'll try apple.com 00.53.11 # no wait 00.53.56 # here it is 00.54.08 # where? 00.54.17 # http://www.forbes.com/home_europe/2004/01/06/cx_ah_0106aapl.html 00.54.30 # ugly as.. ugly 00.54.45 # pink, light green, light blue.. 00.55.33 # if that werent enough, the new nitrus 4g is smaller, almost twice as light, plays wma (which ipod does not) 00.56.00 # lol forbes.com cant be found 00.56.14 # PLUS 00.56.14 # but ipod can play aac right 00.56.15 # Nitrus battery: *proven* 16 hours. 00.56.15 # Minipod battery: 8 hrs *advertised*. We we know what that means. 00.56.23 # what 00.56.26 # thats ipod 00.56.27 # lolol minipod? 00.56.28 # not mini ipod 00.56.30 # yes 00.56.33 # the new mini ipod 00.56.49 # 4gb, comes in your choice of light blue, light green, pink or .. silver or white 00.57.02 # http://images.forbes.com/images/2004/01/06/ipodmini_250x160.jpg 00.57.34 # i see 00.57.39 # looks same as regular 00.57.39 # you do? 00.57.51 # its smaller, 4gb but the nitrus whoops it 00.58.30 # well 4gs is too small anyway 00.59.03 # yeah RIGHT 01.00.28 # what 01.00.29 # ? 01.00.42 # nm 01.00.53 # i'd never get that 01.01.10 # 4gb is so weak 01.01.21 # and how much of your archos is full? 01.01.36 # around 5gb left 01.01.47 # so around 13? 01.01.48 # rec20? 01.01.51 # yeah 01.01.52 # ok 01.02.02 # and i'm always adding stuff 01.02.14 # i will run outm just a matter of time 01.02.26 # theres a new iriver 01.02.47 # ... 01.03.02 # ? 01.03.07 # model? 01.03.10 # 40gb ? 01.03.44 # and IHP-300 which comes with a 2" color TFT LCD 01.03.56 # ihp 300? 01.03.59 # no way 01.04.34 # ya 01.04.44 # http://www.atozia.com/board/board.php?table=tableboard02&action=re&l=779&de=0&p=1 01.04.54 # pics? 01.04.58 # yeah 01.05.04 # ooh 01.05.05 # mine wont load though :( 01.05.11 # http://home.megapass.co.kr/~liy5479/b11.jpg 01.05.53 # looks nice 01.05.59 # wowee 01.06.11 # WOWEE 01.06.30 # dang 01.06.34 # looks sweet 01.06.44 # i assume it can play movies 01.07.12 # no 01.07.17 # ? 01.07.23 # color screen? 01.07.28 # the image would have said that 01.07.50 # well phones have color screens too, yet don't play movies 01.08.16 # true 01.08.28 # zagor: actually 01.08.35 # there are plans for broadcasting TV to cellphones 01.08.41 # you want the pmp-100 01.08.44 # < 2fps 01.08.46 # lol 01.09.22 # it has a hard drive though right? 01.09.35 # the ihp? 01.09.39 # yeah 01.09.45 # no. 01.09.50 # it has a 40gb flash chip 01.09.52 # :) 01.10.03 # lol 01.10.10 # i mean the one w the color screen 01.10.13 # no. 01.10.23 # it has about 25 cornice drives 01.10.29 # wtf? 01.10.39 # i'm lost 01.10.42 # forget it 01.11.09 # whee. i think you will enjoy my next commit... :) 01.11.15 Join Blade777 [0] (jirc@ACBF1CB5.ipt.aol.com) 01.11.22 # well what is it? 01.11.40 # if you have a hard drive and a color screen why woundt u play movies? 01.11.44 # patience, grasshopper :) 01.11.51 Part arspy87 01.12.00 # top_bloke: because it requires massive amounts of cpu power 01.12.04 # ok 01.12.24 # well the 12 mhz archos can play movies 01.12.56 # lol 01.13.02 # ooh 01.13.03 # zagor 01.13.05 # sure, but you wouldn't BUY it for that quality 01.13.06 # i wish to know 01.13.07 # what commit 01.13.10 # ooh cant wait 01.13.17 # WAIT, grasshopper 01.13.22 # it must be picture playback 01.13.25 # zoom at vid player 01.13.27 # ANIMATED LOGO 01.13.30 # hey 01.13.34 # ICON INTERFACE! 01.13.45 # can your current build play lena in a loop? 01.14.09 # no 01.14.11 # its busted 01.14.26 # weak 01.14.29 # that sucks 01.14.32 # tell IDC 01.14.52 # you don't think he knows? 01.15.04 # he does? 01.15.08 # yes 01.15.09 # why would he break it? 01.15.16 # lol 01.15.36 # he broke it 01.16.23 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.16.23 # * midknight2k3 can't wait to see next commit 01.17.23 # why would he break it? 01.18.31 # the archos wasn't officially designed to play movies 01.18.44 # i know 01.18.57 # its more of a bonus than anything else 01.19.11 # yeah but why break the loop function? 01.19.19 # i mean, who wants to watch a 2 hour movie on a 1.5 inch LCD mono screen? 01.19.25 # i dont 01.19.30 # some have done it i bet 01.19.36 # yea 01.19.40 # i dont wanna watch a 2 hour movie 01.19.40 # no blade 01.19.43 # not possible 01.19.45 # i want to loop a pic 01.19.48 # it is possible 01.19.51 # im sure it is 01.19.51 # your lcd would wimp out after about 10-15 minutes 01.19.58 # oh ok 01.20.00 # no it wouldnt? 01.20.04 # it's happened to me 01.20.05 # you seem to know your stuff midknight 01.20.06 # yes 01.20.10 # it gets tired of flickering 01.20.11 # :) 01.20.18 # well perhaps your archos screen is knackered 01.20.23 # and it starts flickering all over 01.20.24 # (he doesnt) 01.20.29 # lol topp 01.20.32 # youve tested this? 01.20.33 # toppy 01.20.34 # sure 01.20.40 # ok fine 01.20.44 # if it were 01.20.45 # i just want a loop 01.20.49 # if it weren't logical enough* 01.20.52 # those 2100MaH batteries from Uniross are excellent 01.20.53 # yes, it's happened 01.21.29 # looooop 01.21.55 # nooooope 01.22.23 # booooohoooo 01.22.28 Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") 01.22.29 # lol 01.22.42 # i wonder if 3000maH batteries will ever be made 01.23.43 # im sure the flickering required to do greyscale will cause physical damage to the LCD 01.23.54 # eventually 01.23.57 # it will? 01.24.01 # after about 10 minutes it will flicker 01.24.16 # i,ve never done it for that long 01.24.19 # ah i see 01.24.19 # i bet if you left it going for >5 minutes after that it'd either die or be constantly flickering 01.24.31 # or mess up the contrast 01.24.35 # wow i nver knew 01.24.43 # sounds bad 01.24.51 # it's not an issue for short clips 01.25.00 # Has anyone used an NetMD before? 01.25.16 # no 01.25.30 # the system required to get files on the device is stupid 01.25.52 Quit AciD ("www.cpm-fr.com") 01.26.16 # i STILL havent seen doom 01.26.32 # HAHAHA 01.27.13 # lol 01.27.21 # Doom would require a great deal of code 01.27.21 # :( 01.27.30 # :) 01.27.53 # and im sure playing Doom for too long will damage the lcd 01.28.00 # the video he means 01.28.08 # there ought to be a warning 01.28.15 # no the actual game if it was theoritally possible 01.28.18 # when it starts playing 01.28.37 # THIS MIGHT DAMAGE UR LCD 01.28.44 # oh yea 01.28.50 # a splash screen warning 01.28.53 # should suffice 01.29.14 # ;) 01.29.18 # wheres linusN and bagder? 01.29.49 # if (time_playing>12) { rb->splash(HZ*2, 0, true, "Warning! Exit Video player NOW!"); } 01.30.00 # yea summat like that midknight2k3 01.30.04 # should do the job 01.30.12 # lol 01.30.13 # no 01.30.16 # or just auto exit 01.30.18 # at the start 01.30.21 # of it 01.30.29 # afad your dfad 01.30.35 # ya 01.30.37 # lol 01.30.44 # whatever afad or dfad means 01.30.57 # use your imagination 01.31.14 # don't know what you mean 01.31.15 # sorry 01.31.36 # nm+ 01.32.01 # explain please 01.32.05 # lol 01.32.23 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@65.112.217.2) 01.33.44 # hi guest 01.34.07 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 01.34.55 # gone quiet in here 01.35.07 # lol 01.35.28 # indeed 01.35.51 # they should make 1.5 inch CRT screens 01.36.13 # thats like saying they should make .2" tft lcd's 01.36.22 # but that'd be cooooool 01.36.27 # yea 01.36.31 # ... 01.36.33 # or 1.5 inch plasma screens 01.38.26 # actually get a red, green and blue felt-tip pens, colour in the respective pixels and bingo, one colour LCD 01.39.15 # Zagor: the new checkin you mean the descramble.c changes? 01.39.54 # hi Zagor 01.40.05 # midknight2k3: yeah 01.40.21 # hi Blade777 01.40.23 # neat 01.40.27 # ;-) 01.40.49 # anyone know a decent free mp3 encoder? 01.40.57 # lame 01.41.04 # dbpoweram 01.41.08 # there's none better 01.41.08 # dbpoweramp* 01.41.08 # i mean the actual program 01.41.10 # which uses lame 01.41.12 # not the encoder itself 01.41.17 # ok midknight2k3 01.41.17 # dbpoweramp.com 01.41.21 # Blade777: lame is the program 01.41.24 # cheers dude 01.41.24 # fastest cd ripper 01.41.25 # ok 01.41.26 # :) 01.41.27 # cool 01.41.32 # ill try it out 01.41.36 # thanks Zag and Mid 01.41.46 # zag.. :) 01.41.58 # dbpoweramp.com is not free. 01.42.07 # the program is 01.42.13 # no. it's shareware. 01.42.24 # 100% Free, No nags, popups, hidden spyware or bundleware 01.42.29 # use eac instead: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ 01.42.32 # you may be looking at CD "writer" 01.42.44 # oh, sorry. you're right. 01.42.47 # http://download.com.com/3001-2140-10249519.html <-- dbpoweramp cd ripper 01.43.07 # thanks guys 01.43.12 # you lot are the best 01.43.26 # :D) 01.43.33 # so midknight2k3 I assume you are the rockbox leader 01.43.39 # no lol 01.43.41 # that's zagor. 01.43.46 # ooops 01.43.51 # my fatal error 01.43.52 # lol 01.44.08 # :) 01.44.12 # fatal indeed 01.44.17 # lol top 01.44.25 # If the USB on the Archos is a "slave", why the hell its shaped like the USB on a PC? 01.44.26 # mid, rockbox leader? 01.44.31 # god 01.45.00 # the port doesn't deal with the mode 01.45.05 # ok 01.45.07 # "mode" as in slave or master 01.45.07 # Blade777: that's an good question. it's actually a violation of the usb rules. 01.45.10 # no idea what it's called 01.45.14 # Zagor: what's the deal with multimedia ajz files? 01.45.14 # yea 01.45.24 # Zagor: is that av120 or av300? 01.45.30 # midknight2k3: still, slaves are *required* to use the B socket 01.45.34 # Why didn't they use the B type socket on the Archos? 01.45.38 # elinenbe: both 01.45.42 # wow 01.46.03 # im 25 from london 01.46.05 # Blade777: dunno. you have to ask them. 01.46.12 # just incase you lot were interested 01.46.13 # :D 01.46.47 # midknight2k3: the gmini is pretty much the same too, except they've wrapped it in a RIFF file 01.47.00 # I held the Gmini once Zagor 01.47.07 # it seems much better built than the Recorder 01.47.54 # is Blade track? 01.47.57 # yes 01.48.04 # that gave it away 01.48.07 # lol 01.48.08 # yup 01.48.12 # nice try too! 01.48.20 # when did u realize? 01.50.00 # Zagor: does it use the same method of flashing, or will that have to be taken care of to? 01.50.14 # lmao 01.50.15 # Zagor: how much is known about the hardware on the av300/av120 ? 01.50.20 # top 01.50.26 # ? 01.50.30 # "i held the Gmini" "is blade track?" 01.50.31 # i actually don't know. i have only looked at the firmware files :-) 01.50.37 # that SO gives it away 01.50.40 # Zagor: it looks like the archos firmware is actaully pretty well made for the av300 01.50.45 # elinenbe: http://avos.sf.net 01.50.48 # Zagor: what about the Gmini? 01.50.55 # there is a hardware section 01.51.16 # elinenbe: the gmini uses pretty much the same file firmat, except they've wrapped it in a RIFF file 01.51.17 # lol 01.51.23 # riff 01.51.23 # lol 01.51.34 # sounds good "riff" 01.51.35 # :-D 01.51.40 # (only they got it wrong, so it's not really riff...) 01.51.48 # RIFF 01.51.53 # ok Zag 01.51.55 # Zagor 01.52.04 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-209-79-9.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.52.16 # Hi Jet8810 01.53.58 # ;-) 01.54.14 # Zagor: what exactly is a RIFF file? I had the gmini for a few days, and to udate the firmware there was a menu selection... 01.54.17 # hey Blade777 01.54.17 # :) 01.54.23 # hello 01.54.38 Join arspy87 [0] (~trilluser@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com) 01.55.28 # RIFF = Resource Interchange File Format 01.55.29 # Hi Arspy 01.55.31 # :) b ;) l :-P u :-( e :-I c 8-) h :-o i :@ p 01.55.35 # docs: http://www.udayton.edu/~cps/faculty/jloomis/cps592B/asgn/asgn1/riff.html 01.55.41 # hey Blade 01.55.44 # thanks. 01.55.54 # it's simply a container format 01.56.03 # sounds a bit like AIFF 01.56.04 # :D 01.56.14 # much like avi or the quicktime format. 01.56.38 # avi actually uses RIFF 01.56.49 # http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/directx9_c/directx/htm/avirifffilereference.asp 01.56.54 # yea i know im just sayign 01.57.06 # and i don't know why midknight2k3 has mixed me up with someone els now 01.57.15 # lol 01.57.29 # uhh 01.57.30 # Blade777: stop fooling around. this is not your playground. 01.57.34 # lol 01.57.43 # ? 01.57.55 # kick him kick him 01.58.01 # * midknight2k3 chants 01.58.08 # maybe he has multiple personalities? 01.58.19 # did i miss something? lol 01.58.30 # indeed 01.58.34 # ooh what? 02.03.29 # :-) 02.04.32 # back in a bit all 02.05.04 # ok midknight2k3 02.05.11 # afad 02.05.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.05.39 # whatever afad means 02.11.28 # the gmini also plays wav and wma 02.13.31 # bed time. night all! 02.13.33 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 02.13.44 # night zaggort 02.13.46 # zagor 02.16.13 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.26.35 Quit Blade777 ("Leaving") 02.32.17 Part arspy87 02.55.35 # later 02.55.41 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|out (trilluser@207-237-224-55.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.35.05 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACC5138A.ipt.aol.com) 03.50.48 # bluechip: are you there? 03.51.44 # i am now 03.52.07 # fall asleep AT my keyboard last night - LOL 03.55.41 # bc 03.55.44 # lol 03.55.46 # lmao 04.05.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.23.23 Quit Jet8810 ("Leaving") 04.24.16 # brb 04.24.21 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 04.26.30 Quit top_bloke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.27.01 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACC79905.ipt.aol.com) 04.33.44 # i dont get why it compiled for the fm last nifht! 04.34.24 # ? 04.36.27 # wrong window 04.59.47 Join arspy87 [0] (~trilluser@h00062598fa3b.ne.client2.attbi.com) 04.59.51 # hey 05.05.10 # arse pie 05.05.17 # :) 05.05.26 # :) 05.05.28 # lol 05.05.30 # how do i use bmalloc? 05.05.43 # :) 05.05.47 # never worked with it blue 05.06.01 # i gotta go everyone 05.06.03 # c ya 05.06.09 # cya 05.06.24 # byee 05.06.29 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 05.19.17 # gotta go bye all 05.19.29 Quit midknight2k3 () 05.23.07 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-140-196.res.east.verizon.net) 05.23.31 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 06.05.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.41.23 # Just gotta submit my favourite compile error to date... 06.41.25 # 01plugin.c:36:21: warning: dmalloc.h: No error 06.41.56 # LOL 06.42.03 # damned caps lock 06.42.18 # * scott666 prys off the caps lock key 06.42.21 # lol 06.42.39 # has anyone here ever managed to get malloc to work in a plugin? 06.43.21 Part arspy87 06.59.43 Quit [OFF]BtT (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.59.43 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.59.47 Part bluechip 07.00.19 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.00.19 NJoin [OFF]BtT [0] (~quasi@80.238.199.45) 07.07.14 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp86.contactor.se) 07.39.11 Join oxygen77 [0] (~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net) 08.05.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.12.43 # hmm.. odd im hanging when i reboot my archos 08.36.20 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@134.96.247.240) 08.36.58 Join JCook [0] (~jirc@user-37ka0dv.dialup.mindspring.com) 08.37.48 Quit JCook (Client Quit) 08.38.31 Join JCook [0] (~jirc@user-37ka0dv.dialup.mindspring.com) 08.38.49 # anyone alive here? 08.40.41 # anyone that could help me install some of the patches? every single one I have tried so far has returned errors when I use --dry-run 08.48.44 # hello? 08.49.01 # hi 08.49.15 # heya Schnueff! 08.49.19 # could be all the patches you tried were too old? 08.49.35 # (old patches usually do not apply well) 08.50.35 # ahhhh ok... it's just a few I downloaded from the rockbox site... just stumbled across it surfing yesterday 08.50.57 # my jb was just collecting dust until last night hehehe 08.51.12 # ah :) 08.52.11 # so the ones from the site don't install well onto 2.1 then? 08.52.49 # could be; which one did u try? 08.53.54 # I've tried the enhanced menus and MDB patch, scroll patch, and keyboard patch so far... some others sounded like they may be interesting, but I didn't want to sit there and keep getting errors all night 08.55.21 # looks like they are <= nov 2003, so pre-2.1 08.56.11 # ahhhh ok... so I should look for patches that are only a month or so old 08.56.30 # yeah, that should work better 08.56.55 # i only patch if i really need the functionality 08.57.53 # yeah, there were a couple that sounded pretty good for functionality.. like utilizing the play button in the f2 and f3 menus 09.01.02 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 09.02.51 # JCook: any current version? or 2.1? (please do not msg privately) 09.03.18 Quit adi|home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.08.41 # any version... I'm just looking for a tweaked version of rockbox that would work well on my jbr15 09.09.00 # hm what do u mean, 'tweaked' ? 09.10.24 # with some of the additions.. like adding the play button functionality to f2 and f3 menus, I've seen some of the patches change the keyboard 09.10.58 # sorry, cannot help u with that 09.11.45 # some people who write patches have downloads of patched versions on their homepages 09.11.49 # ok, guess I'll keep messing around until maybe I can get something put together I can live with :) 09.11.55 # they usually post a link on the mailing list then 09.12.06 # (or in the patch documentation) 09.12.29 # ohhh cool... sounds great... thanks a bunch :) 09.12.56 Quit JCook ("Leaving") 09.15.11 Quit wake ("bedtime. . .") 09.34.53 Join c0utta [0] (noemail@dialup-27.53.221.203.acc04-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 09.43.28 Join midhaarrocker [200] (~Phil@90.19.204.212.sr1.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) 10.03.28 Join Dogger [0] (~jimmy@cpc1-colc1-5-0-cust124.colc.cable.ntl.com) 10.05.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.14.48 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-140-196.res.east.verizon.net) 11.18.19 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.18.30 # Hi! 11.18.36 # yo 11.18.49 # oi 11.18.55 # hola 11.19.23 # LinusN: [IDC]Dragon broke your fine recording code :( 11.19.32 # i know, i'll fix it now 11.20.37 # I'm very agog on that patch because I couldn't spot the problem. 11.21.06 # (And I was puzzled that queue seems to use interrupts) 11.22.23 # "queue seems to use interrupts"? 11.23.37 # e.g. in queue_put (trying to recall the name from memory) the interrupt level was temporarily bent to level 15. 11.24.07 # yes, it disables the interrupt to make it atomic 11.24.49 # hi guys 11.24.54 # hi 11.25.02 # hi c0utta 11.25.08 # morning time over there in europe ? 11.25.30 # LinusN: ah, I understand 11.25.39 # midhaarrocker: is that a problem? 11.25.41 # c0utta about noon. 11.25.53 # c0utta: 11:30 am here 11.25.58 # LinusN: no I just had no idea what it might be for. 11.26.09 # midhaarrocker: ah 11.26.45 # can either of you answer a quick question ? 11.26.51 # sure 11.27.09 # developer newbie. i've created a new .c file but it doesn't seem to get compiled 11.27.15 # i am using the simulator 11.27.19 # LinusN: I just came across it when I suspected that mpeg_init_playback doesn't return in the recording.c code. 11.28.00 # midhaarrocker: he removed some vital code, for some reason 11.28.04 # c0utta where in the dir does your *.c file reside? 11.28.12 # apps 11.28.25 # c0utta: you have to add the file in the makefile 11.28.50 # the simulator doesn't have the automatic stuff that the target has 11.29.57 # LinusN: have you been curious enough to try triggered recording yet? 11.30.10 # curious, yes 11.30.19 # time do do it, no 11.30.49 # I know that problem... 11.31.39 # the makefile in apps doesn't reference each .c file - it has SRC := $(wildcard *.c) 11.31.47 # i thought that's be enough 11.31.53 # that's=that's 11.31.59 # that's=that'd 11.32.00 # grrr 11.32.59 # hey linus. 11.38.05 # midhaarrocker: found the bug 11.38.22 # earHurts: yes? 11.39.50 # just saying hi 11.39.58 # I'm in my bathtub 11.40.16 # (wifi) 11.40.29 # LinusN: Hurraaaaa! 11.40.50 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 11.41.46 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-140-196.res.east.verizon.net) 11.41.55 # earHurts must have dropped his laptop into the tub :-) 11.42.11 # unreliable linux os is what it is 11.42.23 # don't swear in the house of God! 11.42.33 # I need a real os, like MS Windows ;) 11.42.40 # infidel!!!!! 11.42.45 # ;) 11.43.03 # Ok, truth is, the OS stayed up 11.43.03 # I have my tv in front of the bathtub, it's connected to my pc and I have a wireless keyboard :) 11.43.19 # the windowing sytem LQtopia; went down 11.43.56 # midha, that sort of decadence destroyed Rome 11.44.49 # ah, good, when Qtopia goes down, the samba mounts stay up 11.45.07 # earHurts For that kind of decadence I still lack of women. 11.46.40 # don't worry midha 11.47.00 # there's always a chance you'll be reincarnated as a woman 11.47.15 # *shriek* 11.48.16 # So since my Archos remains dead, and as I unexpectedly went skiing after xmas, I bought a 512 MB SD card for my pda 11.48.53 # this allowed me to bring along 7 CDs equivalent of mp3s 11.49.26 # but at home, I can just samba the pda into my pc via wifi 11.59.12 # LinusN: I assume that handling the phys2val stuff "internally" means that the conversion is handled in the firmware and not in the apps 12.02.03 # ah 12.02.31 # problem is that we don't want to store physical values in the RTC/disk sector 12.03.11 # that may change when we migrate to .cfg file based settings 12.03.49 # I'd prefer human readable and meaningful values in the .cfg files nevertheless. 12.05.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.07.15 # that's what i mean 12.08.02 # i'm not too happy about the entire val2phys() business at all 12.08.12 # not very practical 12.09.33 # * webmind found out when he doesnt get resume 12.10.10 # webmind: shoot 12.14.18 # aha. i thought make only used the makefile in \apps\ 12.15.41 # LinusN: There's another thing about setting values: I noticed that many arrays with predefined values are maintained twice: for the cfg files and a second time with internationalization. 12.17.03 # LinusN, pressed 'on' toolong 12.18.21 # webmind: ah, so the ON|REPEAT left the resume dialog? 12.18.32 # without showing it though 12.18.41 # midhaarrocker: i am thinking of reworking the entire settings system 12.18.51 # webmind: it shows it, but very briefly 12.19.11 # midhaarrocker: committed recording fix 12.19.25 # LinusN, well.. i can't see it 12.23.26 # webmind: interesting, are you running a recent build? 12.24.00 # not very 12.24.04 # i will though 12.24.34 # how old is it? 12.25.37 # dunno.. few months 12.26.04 # the ON key issue was fixed november 14 12.26.20 # ok 12.26.23 # how ./ 12.26.24 # ? 12.26.58 # :( darned anonymous cvs won't let me get Linus new mpeg.c 12.27.00 # the ask_resume() function now ignores the ON key when it asks for resume 12.27.20 # aah ok 12.28.03 # rockbox plays video ?? 12.28.25 # without sound though. 12.28.30 # (yet) 12.28.38 # will it be hard to add sound? 12.28.46 # will it just slow down fps rate? 12.28.52 # damnit 12.28.58 # wish i had a recorder 12.30.44 # Dogger: I don't really know but I assume that it is not _that_ much a problem. The trick might be [IDC]Dragons new mpeg playback api and a multiplexed video format. 12.32.49 # two problems: 12.33.00 # 1) Synchronization 12.33.04 # 2) CPU load 12.33.55 # Personally I think a different aspect is much more valuable: the video proved that grayscale is possible. And then there are these ID3 Tags that contain images of album covers ... 12.34.12 # the COU load isn't that much of a problem, but the realtime synch is 12.34.31 # s/COU/CPU/ 12.35.07 # LinusN: I thought that the sync problem might be solved by clever multiplexing when the video is rendered on the pc. 12.35.18 # partly, yes 12.35.34 # that solves the disk latency 12.36.08 # but you will still have to handle the (possibly) drifting playback rate 12.40.47 # In my naive mind I see the video format containing short chunks of a defined duration that have a few video frames and some mp3 audio. So when you play the chunks one by one the synchronization would happen automatically on chunk boundaries. 12.44.20 # yeah, that would solve it 12.45.13 # still, the audio and the video frame rates won't necessarily match... 12.45.57 # you might have to reencode the mp3 audio 12.46.40 # Ah, now I see. 12.47.16 # that sounds cool 12.47.31 # and is it possible to display greyscaled image without cpu load, 12.47.39 # or does it have to constantly modulate the bits 12.47.45 # the latter 12.47.50 # thought so 12.47.54 # still.... pretty cool 12.51.35 Nick c0utta is now known as c0utta{zZZ} (noemail@dialup-27.53.221.203.acc04-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 13.12.49 # Ah, finally a fully colored daily build page again :) 13.19.58 # bagder just fixed that 13.20.31 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.45.52 Quit midhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 13.49.52 Nick LinusN|lunch is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.58.36 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 14.00.19 Quit Schnueff ("l8rz") 14.05.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.09.34 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-10.216-194-23-207.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 14.28.47 Part LinusN 14.52.46 Quit adi|home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.08.48 Quit MT (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.08.48 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 15.08.48 Quit dsg (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.08.48 Quit leapingfrog (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.10.13 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 15.10.13 NJoin MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 15.14.37 # anyone here? 15.15.44 # ? 15.17.25 # I have a problem with binutils 15.17.26 # for arm 15.17.51 # in thumb mode, when I write 'str r0, someLocalVar' 15.17.52 # ah 15.17.58 # it assembles it as 'ldr 15.18.10 # my current work around is ldr r1, =localVar 15.18.16 # str r0, [r1, #0] 15.18.18 # but thats lame 15.18.21 # any ideas? 15.19.38 NJoin dsg [0] (~david@pasky.xs4all.nl) 15.23.13 # dsg, ! 15.23.19 # where you at ? 15.23.35 # ah not here prolly 15.26.13 NJoin leapingfrog [0] (~idavies@host81-128-250-54.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 15.26.15 Quit leapingfrog (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.05.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.19.52 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 16.22.09 Join AciD [0] (alwaysup@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.26.28 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61de4.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 16.26.59 # * webmind fires up a lighter 16.42.51 Join midhaarrocker [200] (~Phil@90.19.204.212.sr1.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) 16.46.39 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@centronix.cs.uni-sb.de) 17.06.54 Join Nomad [0] (nomad@ipv6.rdlg.net) 17.06.55 Quit Nomad__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.12.42 Quit Nomad ("leaving") 17.14.22 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.27.56 Quit midhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.03.25 Quit Schnueff ("leaving") 18.06.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.15.28 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Montreal-ppp32446.qc.sympatico.ca) 18.20.20 Quit BoBB ("Lost terminal") 18.20.40 Join BoBB [0] (~bob@ip68-106-225-254.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.40.23 Join _aLF [0] (~alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 18.40.24 # <_aLF> ir 19.19.44 Quit elinenbe|out (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.19.50 Join elinenbe|out [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-55.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 19.25.26 Quit earHurts (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.28.27 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-140-196.res.east.verizon.net) 19.41.58 Join leapingfrog [0] (~idavies@host81-128-250-54.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 20.03.24 Join uski [0] (~moo@gandalf.digital-network.org) 20.06.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.07.49 Join cjnr11 [0] (nihzff@l01v-60-115.d1.club-internet.fr) 20.25.01 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@1-1-3-36a.sk.sth.bostream.se) 20.33.51 Join Smooth_operator2 [0] (jirc@ACB91774.ipt.aol.com) 20.35.13 # hi 20.35.24 # hi 20.35.37 # hello Zagor 20.35.52 # stop playing here. go somewhere else for that. 20.36.24 # what the fuck u on about? 20.37.12 Join quelsaruk [0] (~swordmast@193.136.159.158) 20.37.18 # hi quels 20.37.25 # hi 20.37.42 # Zagor: how made the scroll function? 20.38.07 Quit Smooth_operator2 (Client Quit) 20.38.14 Join track [0] (jirc@ACB91774.ipt.aol.com) 20.38.19 # happy now Zagor? 20.38.28 # i wrote the first version iirc, but it's been rewritten a few times and i'm not sure who did it last :) 20.38.30 # track: yes 20.38.57 # good 20.39.12 # nice to see you smile for a change ;-) 20.39.36 # Zagor: could you enlighten me a bit? (i know, i should read the code first, but.. want to ask you :P ) 20.39.41 # i mean... 20.39.48 # try me... 20.40.12 # .. hard to explain.... 20.42.03 # the text scrolled... is *put* in the display completely, and the part out of the borders are not shown, or does the scroll function put in the display just the text that fits the screen?? 20.42.21 # (can you understand my strange question???) 20.43.00 # just what fits the screen 20.44.02 # so then it is possible to modify the function, telling it that the screen is smaller that it really is, no? 20.44.25 # yes 20.44.28 # :) 20.44.41 # cool 20.45.04 # then is easier to make scroll in a splash screen :) 20.45.14 # hehe, yeah 20.46.09 # another thing 20.46.31 # today i'm really inspired (like a genius.. hehehe) 20.46.52 # nice! :) 20.46.54 # do you think people use the Quick screens?? 20.47.09 # i use the f2 all the time. hardly ever the f3 one though. 20.47.16 # like me :) 20.47.37 # don't invent a new thing before you reread bagders NEWKEYS post in the archive 20.47.47 # hehehe 20.48.03 # that was from march or april no? 20.48.12 # we're strongly leaning in that direction (f2 context sensitive, f3 configurable) 20.48.21 # i don't remember... 20.48.24 # yes 20.48.26 # :) 20.48.32 # Zagor according to midknight if you play a video clip that is too long it messes up the LCD 20.48.57 # track: how long is too long? i've viewed ~3min clips 20.49.11 # midknight reckons about 10 or greater 20.49.13 # minutes 20.49.25 # ok. does [idc]dragon know about it? 20.49.45 # I think someone suggested a splash warning on the LCD prior to using the plugin 20.49.56 # such as "warning, extended play may damage the LCD" 20.50.12 # it can't damage the lcd 20.50.27 # just because it's garbled doesn't mean it's broken 20.50.29 # damage?? should be "mess up" 20.50.55 # i think we should fix the bug instead of warning people about it... 20.51.18 # Zagor & others: I have played 20 min+ clips with no problem at all... 20.51.24 Nick elinenbe|out is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@207-237-224-55.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 20.51.43 # ok 20.52.10 # well i dont' know what midknight is on about 20.52.12 # what I think he is describing, is if you play a video long enough, then it will bitswap and slow everything down a bit. 20.52.26 # and then the video gets garbled (just slowed down) 20.52.50 # well to me it sounded like the LCD was physically damaging 20.53.03 # because of the repeated flashing of the pixels needed to generate greyscale 20.53.12 # elinenbe: ah right, if you view it while mp3 is playing 20.53.52 # track: you know they make lcd television sets, right? :) 20.54.11 # yes, but they aren't 1bit STN screens 20.54.26 # they are prob 24bit TFT panels 20.54.54 # it's not damaging. it's doing exactly what it was designed to do. 20.55.31 # Alright Zagor, Sometime ago I filed a request, "make the LCD do greyscale". Bagder rejected it and now its implemented in the video plugin!!! 20.55.40 # yup 20.56.06 # so why was it rejected if it was possible? 20.56.23 # simple: we didn't know it was possible 20.56.25 # track: because it wasn't interesting, and there was some more important development to do 20.56.38 # (imho) 20.57.00 # i wasn't asking you uski 20.57.00 # uski: actually we don't reject requests just because they aren't interesting. we just ignore those :-) 20.57.23 # but you still must have a sense of humour at some of the more bizarre requests 20.57.23 # :D 20.57.25 # track: yes and ? if i want to answer, i answer. if you are not happy with this, just ignore my answer 20.57.28 # track: you are like a prophet... no one believes you :P 20.57.37 # then some day someone comes along that thinks it is an interesting idea, and implements it 20.58.20 # track: no, i'm afraid it's not funny at all 20.58.24 # ok 20.58.31 # midknight seems to think otherwise 20.58.32 # ;-) 20.58.47 # then he's a moron 20.59.12 # like his request "Convert mp3 to polyphonic ringtones" 21.00.14 # ah well 21.00.17 # life goes on 21.03.48 # Dogger: are you here? 21.03.50 Quit track (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.05.11 # i like the new Stenberg idea ;) 21.05.25 # :) 21.05.59 # hi. i just got an fm rec and found in the docs that only players can mix line-in with mp3 playback. is this a hw limitation in the recs? 21.06.15 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBF67B3.ipt.aol.com) 21.06.48 # Sorry had to restart my PC 21.07.13 # wake: yes. the players can do it because their analog in isn't used for anything and is routed directly into the output DAC 21.07.46 # since recorders have analog in connected to the input ADC, it can't be mixed 21.07.59 # Zagor: thx. i wondered if it was something like that. 21.08.41 # btw, i got my ajb specifically because I wanted to run rockbox, and I have been very happy w/ the results. 21.08.45 # Zagor: just an idea... the "play with..." menu, could be one of my hipothetic splash_menu() :D 21.09.19 # you're making a splash menu? nice! 21.09.29 # wake: thanks 21.09.54 # yups.. for that gfx menus i once thought about 21.10.05 # i think it's time to end the duty 21.10.25 # ..... in the next month nearly for sure... 21.10.41 # Zagor: hi there 21.12.30 # who has a player in here? 21.13.15 # Dogger: i'm having problems building garme. does it (or ant) somehow have a dependency on the sun java compiler? i'm using kaffe. 21.13.24 # track: i do 21.13.38 # hrmmm never used kaffe 21.13.49 # just type 'ant' in the directory 21.13.52 # that will build it 21.14.02 # whats it like compared to the recorder 21.14.09 # I just use standard sun java, and ant 21.14.18 # track: i have a player, along with my recorder, if you want to test sth 21.14.22 # did you see screenshots of garme on http://avos.sf.net :) 21.14.24 # it says: file:/home/bjst/src/multimedia/garme/build.xml:14: Unable to find a javac compiler; com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath. 21.14.27 # the examples are working well 21.14.39 # ok, 21.14.55 # try export CLASSPATH=wherejavaisinstalled/lib 21.15.04 # track: it is horrible. only 2 (or 3 i don't even remember) lines of text, with a small amount of chars displayed 21.15.12 # also make sure the wherejavaisinstalled/bin is in path 21.15.19 # I don't think kaffe defines com.sun.tools.javac.Main anywhere 21.15.56 # Hadaka: yeah, but does ant really require it if it's sun-specific? 21.16.14 # bjorn:garme>which javac 21.16.14 # /usr/bin/javac 21.16.17 # Zagor: shouldn't 21.17.28 # hmmm that should be ok, 21.17.46 # but if the ant build file references classes directly, or something else, then that could be the problem 21.17.50 # although mine is /usr/java/j2sdkblah/bin 21.18.05 # no it doesnt... just does a normal javac 21.18.20 # I'd just try using the standard sun jsdk 21.18.34 # heh, as if one would want to install that :) 21.18.36 # yeah, i just tried kaffe first because it's available with apt-get :) 21.18.54 # * Zagor is lazy 21.19.18 # Zagor: get the blackdown port, it's apt-gettable 21.19.30 # you can apt-get j2sdk as well 21.19.32 # ok, i'll try it 21.19.37 # but you have to add the source for jpackages 21.19.59 # deb ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/Linux/java/jdk/blackdown.org/debian/ unstable main non-free 21.20.02 # that's past my laziness threshold :) 21.20.11 # you probably wish for a swedish mirror or somethign tho 21.20.15 # * Dogger has never met a programmer who wasnt lazy 21.21.27 # wee. j2sdk1.3 - Blackdown Java(TM) 2 SDK, Standard Edition 21.21.30 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-209-79-9.bct.bellsouth.net) 21.21.41 # there's 1.4 as well 21.21.52 # just not uploaded to debian yet :) 21.22.20 # ? 21.22.22 # i'm lost 21.22.45 # you can prolly build it manually without ant 21.22.48 # just using javac 21.22.52 # but cant remember how 21.22.54 # ahh 21.22.57 # :P 21.24.54 # i never understood the advantage of ant over make 21.26.02 # make is eugh c stuff 21.26.06 # bah! Modern compiler not found - looking for classic compiler 21.26.12 # make is language agnostic 21.26.23 # true, 21.26.33 # why not just use sun java? 21.26.56 # because I like apt :-) but it seems i have no choice... 21.27.29 # well you can add jpackage.org as a source in ur apt config, 21.27.32 # then apt get it, 21.27.37 # but there's not much point 21.27.37 # ok 21.27.59 # Zagor: could i ask you a last big favor? (send me the cvs source code in a tarball.. pliiizz) 21.28.04 # as long as there's a .deb in it for me somehow :) 21.28.15 # quelsaruk: can't you simply download from the web site? 21.28.53 # .... 21.28.54 # I'd just download from java.sun.com 21.29.12 # forget that last stupid nonsense ;) 21.30.14 # whee, a mere 90 MB :) 21.30.34 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@p50861C22.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.30.36 # at least they have a fast server 21.31.02 # [IDC]Dragon: hi ! 21.31.03 # bloooaoaaaaaatware :) 21.31.14 # hi [IDC]Dragon 21.31.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi! 21.31.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi! 21.32.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> tonight I hope to complete my half-done work on mpeg 21.33.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> maybe people are angry at me already 21.34.14 # not really... 21.34.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> breaking stuff for no visible benefit 21.34.18 # nah 21.34.21 # [IDC]Dragon: :) 21.34.38 # we are confident you will have something interesting to give us 21.34.41 # at least 21.34.45 # i am 21.34.50 # but.. you better have a good reason, or Zagor could eat you (he is like Shrek but not green) 21.34.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> thanks. 21.35.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> not green? 21.35.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> I thought. 21.35.23 # i god. they throw a 90MB black-box binary at me, then expect me to run it as root!? 21.35.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> Here in germany, the police wears green. 21.35.36 # Zagor: exactly 21.35.42 # Zagor: don't give in to the dark side 21.37.19 # i'll try the new blackdown first, at least 21.37.38 # blackdown runs everything sun's java does for me 21.37.50 # including puzzle pirates ^_^ 21.41.39 Quit c0utta{zZZ} (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.45.03 # Hadaka: what do you have JAVA_HOME and/or CLASSPATH set to? 21.45.33 # Zagor: none for JAVA_HOME, for classpath I use... 21.45.49 # ah ant needs JAVA_HOME set 21.45.59 # to ur java root.... eg where /bin /lib etc come off 21.46.10 # like /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/ 21.46.11 # Dogger: no tool can depend on environment, it's a violation of the debian policy 21.46.36 # i have to go! cu another day :) 21.46.54 # Dogger: so if ant is a debian package, it has been wrapped so that it doesn't need environment variables set 21.47.02 # ok, 21.47.05 # Zagor: /usr/share/doc/java-common/examples/classpath-from-jars-1 21.47.07 # have never used debian 21.47.07 # still says: 21.47.09 # com.sun.tools.javac.Main is not on the classpath. 21.47.09 # Perhaps JAVA_HOME does not point to the JDK 21.47.09 # is Henrik in the room? 21.47.21 # I like my redhat 21.47.24 # more support 21.47.24 # Zagor: I use that to build the CLASSPATH 21.47.44 # I am using his latest patch, but there are some problems patching the latest CVS and I wanted to take the easy way out! 21.48.07 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 21.48.31 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.50.25 # hey scottt 21.50.36 Quit track ("Leaving") 21.54.14 # ahhh, finally: setenv JAVA_HOME /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/ 21.54.29 # * Dogger eurekas 21.54.34 # [IDC]Dragon: what's your goal? 21.54.40 # Dogger: what's UP? 21.54.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> two at once? 21.54.52 # oh just eureka'ing at zagor 21.55.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'd like to add sound to the video 21.55.27 # I'm still a little stuck working out ata on av300.... but have got all my code in thumb now :) 21.55.37 # I prefer thumb... cleaner I think 21.55.41 # Loading file [flash] 21.55.41 # Error loading file! java.io.FileNotFoundException: flash (No such file or directory) 21.55.41 # Error reading flash file... 21.55.50 # what's the 'flash' file? 21.56.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> rockbox.ucl ;-)) 21.56.28 # oh dont worry too much about that 21.56.37 # its not critical 21.56.44 # you only have it if you snarfed the rom 21.56.53 # I just found a bug... a buggity bug bug 21.56.59 # in firmware files, they contain the boot sector 21.57.04 # start a playlist on the recorder. 21.57.06 # it tries to compare it to the one in mem 21.57.08 # turn it off 21.57.16 # auto-resume should be on 21.57.20 # oh ok, so that's not why it stops... does "03000018 getImmed:shifts?" mean anything to you? 21.57.33 # and does an update if its different.... hence you cant downgrade past 1.2.... also hence the red screen problems with 1.01 or whatever prolly 21.57.38 # and then plug it in to USB (already plugged into the computer) and then turn it on. 21.57.40 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBF67B3.ipt.aol.com) 21.57.53 # yeah that means that arm instruction hasnt been implemented yet 21.57.59 # what are you trying to run on it? 21.58.06 # CJBM.AJZ v2.0 21.58.11 # ok, 21.58.15 # unpacked yeah? 21.58.18 # which config do I need? 21.58.22 # no. should it? 21.58.25 # yes 21.58.31 # ok... 21.58.31 # I dont distribute the packer do i! 21.58.35 # right... 21.58.41 # default.config will work for dsc25 21.58.49 # i stopped thinking a few hours ago :) 21.58.53 # ./run firmware.unpacked.firstchunk 21.58.57 # :) np 22.00.10 # note that 1. it will use 100% cpu, and 2. it will be reasonably slow 22.00.23 # but it will tell you when its doing any hardware access etc 22.00.35 # and you can set debug to on at any breakpoints etc in the config 22.00.38 # yeah, that's forgiven for a bloody cpu emulator :-) 22.00.44 # or get it to print registers at certain points etc 22.00.48 # :) 22.01.08 # just that the first person who I showed it to said 'but its not doing anything' 22.01.16 # patience is the best thing to have 22.01.50 # man, this is so cool... 22.02.00 # "Archos Video AV300" 22.02.01 # you got it running? 22.02.03 # :) 22.02.05 # thanks 22.02.06 # yup 22.02.10 # all my own crappy work 22.02.32 # you can try some examples from avos as well... they use same config obviously 22.02.49 # hey you any experience with binutils arm thumb? 22.03.04 # a bit. we use arm-thumb at work. 22.03.16 # I write 'str, localVar' in thumb, and it gets assembled to 'ldr' instead!... works fine in non thumb 22.03.38 # work around I use is 'ldr r0, =localVar; str r1, [r0] 22.04.14 # our asm is in arm, i'm afraid, so i haven't had that problem 22.04.24 # ah ok, 22.04.39 # is that by choice? or neccesity? 22.05.20 # i don't remember. i didn't start the project :-) (i'm a contractor) 22.05.30 # so who started it Zagor? 22.05.33 # I thought U startred it 22.05.55 # track: i started rockbox. i was talking about my daytime job. 22.06.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.06.25 # ah ok, 22.06.34 # ok 22.06.40 # with the new format? shouldn't the sokoban folder be inside the rocks folder? 22.07.00 # If one was to donate to this project via paypal, where does all the money go? 22.07.00 # that sokoban file is always a black sheep :) 22.07.15 # Zagor: agreed... 22.07.28 # track: I have a new car here -- haha 22.07.34 # track: devcons, buying new hardware, lawsuits etc :) 22.07.40 # oh ok 22.07.41 # :-) 22.07.48 # and the beers for everyone 22.07.49 # ;-) 22.07.50 # Zagor: man, this is so cool... what's that all about? 22.08.10 # Zagor: has there been much donating? 22.08.15 # elinenbe: doggers arm7 emulator in java. it can boot the archos av300 firmware! 22.08.28 # elinenbe: yeah, quite a lot actually. 22.08.32 # Zagor: cool, but why java? 22.08.37 # Zagor: any numbers? :D 22.08.48 # because java is infinitely better than anything else.... 22.08.51 # Dogger: how far does it get? 22.08.55 # nah I just use java for prototyping etc 22.09.04 # it tries to read ATA 22.09.11 # then tries to communicate with the MAS 22.09.16 # but they both need writing 22.09.20 # Dogger: some hate java and some love it... I am more along the hate group. I like lisp for prototyping... 22.09.25 # Dogger: cool as school. 22.09.33 # I only write in asm and java 22.09.40 # high level=java, low level=asm 22.09.55 # I'd like to see an arm emulator in lisp 22.10.35 # Dogger: that's quite an unusual combinations. mostly people are c/asm (leaning towards lowlevel) or c/java (leaning towards highlevel). you take both extremes, leaving out the middle ground :) 22.10.46 # yep 22.10.51 # I kindof bypassed c 22.10.59 # never could see what it offered 22.11.05 # hehe 22.11.07 # I think I write in asm faster than most people write in c 22.11.17 # so I just do asm when I want to code well and fast, 22.11.23 # and java when I wanna code quickly 22.11.32 # currently the only viewers are video,viewer,chip8 right? 22.11.45 # elinenbe: text too 22.12.06 # and there's that playlist editor plugin 22.12.07 # Zagor: I think viewer is the text one... 22.12.12 # s/plugin/patch 22.12.19 # oh, right 22.12.30 # gtg. cya! 22.12.34 # Zagor: that is no longer a patch -- it's in the CVS -- I use it daily 22.12.35 # bye 22.12.38 # bye 22.12.47 # * uski is away: afk. 22.12.47 # elinenbe: really? man, i'm behind... :-) 22.15.18 # Zagor: been for about a month! 22.19.12 Quit [IDC]Dragon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.33.09 Join midhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Be15a.b.pppool.de) 22.34.59 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 22.35.57 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.38.05 # Is it true that the plugin memory is used otherwise when no plugin is running? 22.41.46 # Zagor: isn't the JBMM the av100? 22.42.03 # Zagor: I thought they were the same thing? 22.44.11 # * midhaarrocker blushes for asking questions that are anwered in the list already 22.44.12 # no 22.44.28 # midhaarrocker: no, it's not used for anything else 22.44.54 # Zagor: can anything be currently run on the JBMM or av1xx? 22.45.12 # only doggers code 22.45.22 # Zagor: also, I don't get it... is compression optional? 22.45.43 # yes. the algorithm allows for simply putting in uncomressed data 22.45.59 # that's why the plaintext was visible even when packed 22.46.52 # why was some of the code uncompressed then? It seems like they were lazy... 22.47.47 # well the algorithm works with pages of 8 items each. each item can either be a raw byte, or it can be a reference to a string found previously in the data. 22.48.33 # and some data can't be compressed easily with such an algorithm (unique strings for instance) so was stored as raw bytes 22.49.02 # what i'm doing is simply storing everything as raw bytes 22.49.39 # that will work until our code is ~450 KB 22.49.50 # after that we need compression 22.50.11 # although if you have a bootloader you could just load the rest from hdd 22.50.19 # yeah 22.50.22 # and forget about their lame packing 22.50.42 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se) 22.50.48 # or replace it with the far superior ucl algorithm we use today 22.50.55 # sure 22.51.02 # howdy 22.51.06 # could update the boot sector on the flash 22.51.13 # remove any trace of archos 22.51.22 # but make sure the code works beforehand :) 22.51.35 # yeah, that's the risky part 22.51.40 # yep 22.51.59 # we're fortunate in rockbox to have room for both in the flash 22.52.12 # cool 22.52.34 # so we have a bail-out option if our code should fail 22.52.47 # always nice to have 22.52.55 # I'd hate to have a $650 paperweight 22.56.07 Quit cjnr11 () 22.58.13 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.59.15 # Core developers: about that recording as plugin idea. Would you prefer me to do it separately from the trigger job or may I combine these tasks? 23.00.19 # i don't care, i won't spend any time doing it, i think the recording should be in the firmware 23.00.23 # wait with the recording as plugin 23.00.55 # i'd like to first see the design of the recording plugin api before we give it the green light. i fear it will be messy. 23.01.59 # Ok that means separate the trigger and plugin idea. 23.02.09 # jörg and i are working on cleaning up the mp3 playback/recording api 23.02.31 # i think we should at least wait until that is done 23.02.38 # yeah 23.02.55 # that cleaning does that primarily concern the firmware code or the apps code too? 23.03.22 # it concerms both 23.03.43 # when we're done, plugins will be able to play mp3 from RAM, for instance 23.03.52 Quit Jet8810 ("Leaving") 23.03.57 # Ah, silly me. That thing. 23.03.59 # and probablt record as well 23.04.32 # source/sink you know...encapsulate...jehova! 23.04.38 # :) 23.05.00 # what if we built this large wooden badger? 23.05.14 # :-) 23.05.16 # Troja has been entered already 23.05.37 # let's not go there, it's a silly place 23.06.32 # hi bagder and LinusN! 23.07.05 # happy new year LinusN! 23.07.07 # ;-) 23.07.31 # hi 23.08.35 # hi LinusN! 23.12.45 # speaking about cleaning up, i'm thinking about the settings code... 23.12.55 # it's really a mess today 23.13.07 # * midhaarrocker agrees completely 23.13.10 # with duplicate string tables etc 23.16.15 # hi linus 23.16.30 # And these menu / options gui functions don't use the capabilities of the graphic lcd... 23.16.52 # LinusN: you mean save/load_config() ? 23.17.19 # in particular, yes 23.18.00 # save / load use standarized string tables, but then synchonously often are internationalized string tables too. 23.18.41 # ??? internationalized? 23.19.02 # i don't see what you are complaining about. "wasting" 200 bytes of string data? 23.19.54 # the save/load use its own option tables, and the gui settings code has another set 23.19.56 # something like {"off", "1s", "2s" } for the save / load and then somewhere else {str(LANG_OFF), "1s", "2s"} 23.20.04 # for the menus 23.20.10 # midhaarrocker: that's very intentional 23.20.27 # yes 23.20.35 # but there's a second array just to internationalize the "off". 23.20.38 # of course "1s" is bad for the menus 23.20.58 # I bet second is not 's' in all languages ;-) 23.21.08 # i think mixing menus with settings.c would be a very bad suboptimization 23.21.15 # Bagder: it should be, it's an ISO unit 23.21.33 # well 23.21.34 # true 23.21.45 # but possibly not the inuitive shortening 23.21.54 # Zagor: bug it's easy to forget to update both tables when changing an option 23.21.54 # but I don't know that 23.22.32 # LinusN: you don't know how often I made _that_ mistake! 23.22.33 # LinusN: yeah, that's a problem. but what is the solution? 23.23.34 # Maybe make rockbox load the english defaults temporarily just to save the config files. 23.23.53 # And keep internationalized arrays only 23.24.20 # we add more code to avoid programmer mistakes? that's a slippery slope... 23.24.22 # the solution could be a struct for each setting, containing everything, the type, the unit, the scale, the string table, the name in the config file etc etc 23.25.25 # LinusN: that sounds like a pretty good idea 23.25.38 # (encapsulate, JEHOVA!) 23.25.41 # hehe 23.25.47 # :) 23.26.25 # i have worked a little on that already, mostly in my head 23.32.38 # * midhaarrocker goes triggering a little 23.32.40 # See you 23.33.07 Quit midhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 23.33.40 Quit uski (No route to host) 23.41.42 # hello Bafger 23.41.46 # Bagder 23.42.18 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9FF8E90.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.42.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> Oops, I got disconnected 23.42.42 # hrm shell.sf.net seems down 23.42.43 # hi dragon 23.42.43 # bah 23.42.57 Join Guest [0] (jirc@phy206.cip.uni-regensburg.de) 23.43.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> I was wondering why the channel is so quiet 23.43.14 # hehe 23.43.21 # yea 23.43.30 # it can suddenly go dead for some reason 23.43.38 # damn sf 23.43.49 # whats wrong with sourceforge now? 23.44.21 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 23.44.34 Quit oxygen77 ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/7]") 23.45.06 Join Guest [0] (jirc@phy206.cip.uni-regensburg.de) 23.46.22 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 23.47.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi Linus! 23.48.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> mpeg.c is not doing so well for me today. 23.49.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> I just undid my changes, back to the cvs code, and do it again one by one to see where it broke 23.49.33 # [IDC]Dragon: what were you diong? 23.49.37 # doing 23.49.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> moveing the interrupt handlers 23.50.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> but they have some dependencies 23.50.21 # btw, you made a mistake when moving mpeg_init_playback() 23.50.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> with the prerecording? 23.50.37 # you took away the stop_recording() call 23.50.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> not intentionally 23.51.02 # i fixed it, no worries 23.51.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> I diffed carefully, but must have slipped through 23.51.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> thanks. 23.51.49 # what about moving the irq handlers? 23.51.57 # where and why? 23.53.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> to have a working "playback engine", the plugin-able functions must be independent 23.53.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> so I need to move them to mp3_playback.c 23.54.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> and cut all the dependencies to mpeg.c's state 23.54.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> like playtime 23.55.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> for the time being, I keep the recording stuff in mpeg.c 23.55.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> so there are crosslings, the demand IRQ is used for both 23.55.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> crosslinks 23.57.14 # the irq handler could stay in mpeg.c, calling either mp3_play_demand() or mp3_record_demand() depending on the mas mode 23.57.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> that's another option