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00.09.51 Join    midknight2k3 [0] (zakk@ACA4A17F.ipt.aol.com)
00.10.40 #       <midknight2k3> hi Bagder, Dogger, hardeep, track, [IDC]Dragon
00.10.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> hi
00.11.39 #       <midknight2k3> oh idc
00.11.51 #       <midknight2k3> the chip8 emulator is too fast since you added the beep
00.12.11 #       <[IDC]Dragon> not since the beep
00.12.18 #       <midknight2k3> oh?
00.12.23 #       <[IDC]Dragon> maybe since I tuned the LCD again
00.12.32 #       <midknight2k3> i never noticed it until you added the beep
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00.12.38 #       <track> hiya Midknight
00.12.41 #       <midknight2k3> well it's WAY too fast
00.12.43 #       <midknight2k3> hi track
00.12.45 #       <track> sorry was playing train simulator
00.12.47 #       <track> :)
00.12.49 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.12.57 #       <midknight2k3> i thought it bored the bollocks out of you?
00.13.03 #       <track> lol
00.13.14 #       <track> its entertaining pulling wild 360 derailments
00.13.23 #       <midknight2k3> LOL
00.13.26 #       <midknight2k3> sounds fun
00.13.44 #       <track> well its better than sticking to a 25kmh speed limit in a 10 mile long tunnel
00.13.52 #       <midknight2k3> haha
00.13.58 #       <track> lol
00.14.15 #       <track> the best crash was smashing into a train shed at 125mph and watching the train concertina
00.14.54 #       <midknight2k3> HAHA
00.14.56 #       <midknight2k3> i want that
00.15.00 #       <track> lol midknight I can do a vid of a crash and send it to u
00.15.06 #       <midknight2k3> yeah!
00.15.10 #       <midknight2k3> i want to see
00.15.23 #       <track> its gonna take a bit of time though
00.15.39 #       <track> ill make a video when I have more spare time
00.15.40 #       <midknight2k3> ok
00.16.02 #       <track> i have a slight issue with the charging screen on the flashed box
00.16.35 #       <track> What do the animated dots mean on the large battery icon?
00.16.53 #       <midknight2k3> just an animation
00.16.54 #       <midknight2k3> for looks
00.17.02 #       <midknight2k3> "current flowing through" is my best guess
00.17.08 #       <midknight2k3> ask IDC
00.17.15 #       <midknight2k3> i should make a new charging screen
00.17.24 #       <midknight2k3> OOH I HAVE A GOOD IDEA
00.17.37 #       <track> The large battery icon would look better if it slowly filled up to show charging progress
00.17.39 #       <track> whats that mid?
00.18.47 #       <midknight2k3> well i was going to ask if we can have multiple statements in for loops
00.18.53 #       <track> what do you mean?
00.18.53 #       <midknight2k3> but i'll just use a while loop instead
00.19.03 #       <midknight2k3> C
00.19.22 #       <midknight2k3> like, for(bla=bla && bla2=bla; etc; etc)
00.19.30 #       <track> oh
00.19.45 #       <midknight2k3> i think we can only have one bla, but it doesn't matter
00.20.03 #       <midknight2k3> while loops are better D:
00.20.06 #       <midknight2k3> :D*
00.20.27 #       <track> lol
00.20.43 #       <track> Im getting the hang of flashing now
00.20.50 #       <track> just download the ucl file and click on that to flash
00.21.13 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
00.21.27 #       <midknight2k3> track go to AOL messenger
00.21.38 #       <track> i didn't know u use AOL mid
00.21.43 #       <midknight2k3> i use AIM
00.21.53 #       <track> I don't have AOL messenger installed :-(
00.21.55 #       <track> never use it
00.21.59 #       <midknight2k3> its built into aol
00.22.03 #       <track> all i have is Yahoo messenger
00.22.14 #       <midknight2k3> aww
00.22.18 #       <midknight2k3> ok lets try dcc
00.22.22 #       <midknight2k3> still on leafchat?
00.22.24 #       <track> I prefer chatting here
00.22.28 #       <track> yes im using leafchat now
00.23.16 #       <track> AOL is still banned on jirc
00.23.17 #       <track> :(
00.23.30 #       <midknight2k3> dont use jirc
00.23.31 #       <midknight2k3> it sucks
00.23.34 #       <midknight2k3> just use leafchat
00.23.39 #       <track> yea
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00.23.58 #       <track> Mid the large battery icon on the charging screen would look much better if it filled to show charging progress
00.24.14 #       <midknight2k3> track, yes i think that will be one thing i will do
00.24.24 #       <midknight2k3> i have a new project: CHARGING SCREEN REMAKE
00.24.28 #       <track> cool
00.25.01 #       <midknight2k3> you can try it when i finish
00.25.05 #       <track> thanks
00.25.06 #       <track> ;-)
00.25.14 #       <track> I don't like the animated dots
00.25.31 #       <midknight2k3> why not
00.25.35 #       <track> Also how do you turn the backlight off when charging?
00.25.44 #       <midknight2k3> its always off i thought
00.25.59 #       <midknight2k3> boy my home\rockbox\ folder is a mess
00.26.00 #       <track> on my box its always on when charging
00.26.05 #       <midknight2k3> humm
00.26.06 #       <midknight2k3> no idea
00.26.09 #       <midknight2k3> OHH
00.26.14 #       <midknight2k3> try "backlight on when plugged"?
00.26.24 #       <track> I'll try that
00.26.30 #       <midknight2k3> try "ofF"
00.26.31 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.26.39 #       <midknight2k3> its under general settings->display
00.26.40 #       <track> midknight when my box is switched off when charging the backlight is on
00.27.07 #       <midknight2k3> yes, choose "backlight on when charging: no"
00.27.11 #       <midknight2k3> er "pluggeD"
00.27.15 #       <midknight2k3> "plugged"**
00.27.59 #       <track> let me check
00.28.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> no, that makes no difference
00.28.14 #       <midknight2k3> aww
00.28.14 #       <[IDC]Dragon> the settings are not loaded yet
00.28.26 #       <[IDC]Dragon> when the charging screen is active
00.28.26 #       <midknight2k3> ok well i will remake it anywayw
00.28.29 #       <midknight2k3> wnyways*
00.28.32 #       <midknight2k3> anyways**
00.28.53 #       <track> Baclight On When Plugged - Off
00.28.56 #       <track> thats what its set on now
00.29.32 #       <midknight2k3> it wont help he says
00.30.32 #       <track> Not that it really matters since I prefer charging the box when its turned on
00.34.31 #       <midknight2k3> correct
00.35.27 #       <track> yea
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00.54.15 #       <midknight2k3> crap
00.54.34 #       <midknight2k3> anybody know where the code was for if you hold off while plugged it says "Battery: Charging"?
00.54.36 #       <track> HAHAHA
00.54.44 #       <midknight2k3> ?
00.55.00 #       <track> sorry i was lauging at the way you said "crap"
00.56.10 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.56.26 #       <track> sdd
00.56.27 #       <track> ddf
00.56.38 #       <track> "Thanks a lot"
00.57.01 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.57.56 #       <track> :D
00.59.28 #       <track> anyway night all
00.59.29 #       <track> :)
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01.06.02 #       <midknight2k3> hi adi
01.16.41 #       <midknight2k3> YAY I FOUND IT
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01.22.10 #       <john-> hello
01.22.11 #       <midknight2k3> john- woo
01.24.29 #       <john-> I feel silly saying this, but seeing how you guys look like experts on the Archos players... Just recently my friend was charging up his Jukebox Recorder 20, and somehow a pillow got thrown over it - Four days later he discovered the melted remains of the MP3 player case and a glowing screen as it did not turn off after it had peaked the charge
01.24.56 #       <midknight2k3> whh
01.25.05 #       <john-> well, anyway, he gave me the player and just bought a new one, yet I'd like to try and get his old one to work
01.25.14 #       <midknight2k3> melted?
01.25.44 #       <john-> yeah, the cover got all distorted and the buttons melted together so he couldn't turn it off
01.26.46 #       <midknight2k3> he left a pillow over it and it charging for four days?
01.26.57 #       <midknight2k3> even if it didnt melt that would wreck the batteries
01.27.03 #       <midknight2k3> NOT a good idea
01.27.11 #       <john-> yeah, I guess he didn't realize it was there
01.27.28 #       <midknight2k3> uhh
01.28.00 #       <john-> or he just wanted an excuse for a new one, heh
01.28.00 #       <midknight2k3> ok what was it you wanted? just to tell us?
01.28.24 #       <john-> if there's any way I can get it working again
01.28.56 #       <midknight2k3> er
01.29.03 #       <midknight2k3> well what exactly is wrong with it?
01.29.27 #       <john-> well, so far I know it won't turn on with the batteries
01.29.32 #       <john-> I'm guessing those are toast
01.29.50 #       <midknight2k3> try plugging it in
01.30.25 #       <john-> he hasn't given me the cords for it yet, but I'll be sure to once I do
01.30.37 #       <midknight2k3> well you cant really operate it without power
01.30.52 #       <john-> also, there's a white residue on certain parts of the circuit board
01.31.04 #       <john-> but it doesn't look like any of the batteries leaked
01.32.03 #       <john-> is that just part of the board?
01.36.40 #       <midknight2k3> uh
01.36.45 #       <midknight2k3> no, that'd be battery acid
01.36.52 #       <midknight2k3> it's not normal anyways\
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01.41.00 #       <john-> maybe I could just buy replacement batteries and make a new case for it or something :P
01.41.08 #       <midknight2k3> yeah lol
01.41.08 #       <midknight2k3> brb
01.42.27 #       <john-> I wanted the model my friend had really badly, and then I finally went to Best Buy and they replaced it with the FM model the week before, which cost a lot more
01.43.07 #       <john-> I ended up getting a Nomad Jukebox 2 which has very limited support in Linux, bleh
01.46.55 #       <midknight2k3> bc k
01.47.14 #       <midknight2k3> EEW
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01.48.19 #       <john-> haha
01.48.29 #       <midknight2k3> ?
01.48.51 #       <john-> some nonstandard filesystem on it that you need special programs to access it with
01.49.06 #       <midknight2k3> yes, it sucks
01.49.48 #       <john-> and the guy at the store was trying to sell me an iPod or something
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01.50.25 #       <midk2k3> dfg
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01.52.08 #       <john-> so when/if I get this fixed; does Rockbox have OGG support? I couldn't tell from the Features list
01.52.28 #       <midknight2k3> heh, no
01.52.53 #       <john-> ah, oh well
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01.57.33 #       <john-> hmm, think I can try normal AAs to try and get it to turn on?
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02.02.05 #       <john-> wow, it works!
02.02.09 #       <midknight2k3> yay
02.02.12 #       <midknight2k3> dont plug in the charger
02.02.28 #       <john-> taking a long time to boot though
02.03.21 #       <john-> little "clicking" sound coming from the drive every now and then
02.06.53 #       <john-> must be going through its usual post-melt disk defragmentation
02.07.01 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.12.15 #       <john-> after it finishes once, it will start up again faster, right?
02.17.15 #       <midknight2k3> it doesnt defrag
02.22.31 #       <john-> it got to 5th square, the screen lit up, it went really quick and finished
02.22.39 #       <john-> and then said "Error: Can't read from hard disk"
02.25.11 #       <midknight2k3> hrm
02.25.21 #       <midknight2k3> dead disk probably
02.26.00 #       <john-> ugh
02.26.44 #       <john-> could I connect it to a computer and run some utilities?
02.27.55 #       <midknight2k3> it may work
02.27.59 #       <midknight2k3> you need an adapter
02.28.03 #       <midknight2k3> actually theres a way to us
02.28.10 #       <midknight2k3> er perhaps not
02.28.15 #       <midknight2k3> any noises on boot?
02.28.25 #       <john-> that clicking sound I was talking about
02.28.52 #       <midknight2k3> can you record it or something? i can't really tell... is it like cliiicccck click, cliiiiiick click?
02.30.03 #       <john-> well, it's pretty quiet and probably wouldn't be that noticable if the case were on, but it might just be it seeking
02.31.06 #       <midknight2k3> if it seeked it would work
02.36.16 #       <john-> what about the voltages?
02.36.38 #       <john-> normal AAs run at 1.5V, while the Archos brand use 1.2V
02.36.44 #       <midknight2k3> AA = more power than needed
02.37.51 #       <john-> I can try recording the sound
02.45.37 #       <john-> well, apparently I can't find my microphone
02.45.56 #       <midknight2k3> aww
02.47.08 #       <john-> but when I hold the jukebox up to my ear, there's a slight buzzing sound, as when I hear the other sound, it's more like a sound you get when winding film
02.47.17 #       <john-> like a click click click chunk
02.47.35 #       <midknight2k3> sounds okay but hard to express in text lol
02.47.47 #       <john-> yeah, seriously
02.48.13 #       <midknight2k3> sorry, maybe someone else can help, but to me it sounds pretty dead
02.48.26 #       <john-> bleh :(
02.50.09 #       <john-> http://evermore.ath.cx/archos/DSC00072.JPG
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02.51.06 #       * midk|bbs is away: back in a few mins
02.51.24 #       <midk|bbs> i'll be back soon ok
02.52.02 #       <john-> alright
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03.23.21 #       <midk|bbs> grrp
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03.24.36 #       <midknight2k3> yeah that archos does look a bit traumatized
03.24.37 #       <midknight2k3> :)
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03.24.49 #       <john-> heheheh
03.26.41 #       <midknight2k3> screen looks darker on top or is it an illusion
03.26.56 #       <john-> I think it's just from the flash
03.27.11 #       <midknight2k3> ok yeah looks a bit darker thanit should
03.49.25 #       <john-> well, I need to get some sleep
03.49.30 #       <john-> I'll keep working on it
03.49.36 #       <midknight2k3> ok
03.49.38 #       <john-> thanks for all the help
03.49.38 #       <midknight2k3> bye
03.49.40 #       <midknight2k3> np
03.49.48 #       <john-> good night
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04.18.33 #       <scott666> yo
04.20.56 #       <midknight2k3> yee
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10.49.47 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Linus: just for my curiousity: Did your record-to-current-dir enhancement base on the patch on the patchtracker?
10.51.41 #       <LinusN> yeah, i forgot to close it, will do in a sec
10.56.40 #       <dwihno> way!
10.56.48 #       <LinusN> yo dwihno!
10.56.56 #       <dwihno> Hej hej! \o/
10.57.30 #       <dwihno> I forgot how hell'ish it was to setup PfaEdit on Windows.
10.58.20 #       <LinusN> never tried
10.58.31 #       <dwihno> don't go there man :)
10.58.36 #       <dwihno> it's all nasty
11.01.38 #       <LinusN> i'll remember that :_)
11.13.03 #       <kurzhaarrocker>  Why does bagder want to move the mailing lists?
11.13.48 #       <LinusN> not sure, but it might be a step in our long-term plan to ditch sourceforge
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11.37.03 #       <c0utta> hallå! är det någon där?
11.37.30 #       * kurzhaarrocker wants a chinese font
11.38.05 #       <c0utta> nah, just checking my english/swedish translator
11.38.15 #       <c0utta> i thought i'd get linus's attention
11.38.57 #       <LinusN> excellent swedish
11.39.08 #       <c0utta> http://lexikon.nada.kth.se/cgi-bin/swe-eng
11.40.02 #       <c0utta> guys, i get an error on the following when i compile for an ajz
11.40.05 #       <c0utta> typedef bool (*PFB)();
11.40.12 #       <c0utta> works ok in the sim though
11.40.30 #       <c0utta> it's actually a warning, not an error
11.40.55 #       <LinusN> you need a full prototype
11.41.08 #       <LinusN> typedef bool (*PFB)(void)
11.42.09 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I thought typedefs are a nono in rockbox
11.42.44 #       <LinusN> sometimes it helps for function pointers
11.43.26 #       <LinusN> the code police will raid his patch tracker when he submits it :-)
11.43.36 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :)
11.44.32 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Apropos code police: What do you all think about that idea using the red led as a recording indicator?
11.45.19 #       <LinusN> i'm not sure yet
11.45.38 #       <LinusN> i like the idea of a clear indicator
11.46.11 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I'd prefer too not to mix recording _and_ hd activity.
11.46.12 #       <LinusN> so i'm trying to get used to the idea
11.48.05 #       <c0utta> did either of you get a chance to look at my "proof of concept" for the f2 menu ?
11.48.22 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I haven't yet
11.48.57 #       <c0utta> recording is one of the actions that you can perform - especially at your request
11.48.58 #       <LinusN> nope, been offline the last week (moving to another appartment)
11.49.47 #       <c0utta> it has very quiet in here over the last week..
11.50.03 #       <kurzhaarrocker> c0utta: I admit that I feel a bit ashamed ... 
11.50.28 #       * kurzhaarrocker sniffes LinusN and suspects a smell of fresh paint
11.51.57 #       <c0utta> don't feel ashamed.  i only converted over those actions that i am interested in using
11.52.09 #       <c0utta> plus some others mentioned by yourself & [idc]dragon
11.54.41 #       <c0utta> you can now put any plugin or cfg into the f2 menu
11.56.00 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :)
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20.16.23 #       <WiZeR> hi guys
20.16.26 #       <WiZeR> anyone awake?
20.17.20 #       <WiZeR> im desperate for some help if anyone wouldnt mind
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20.25.38 #       <_aLF> hi
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21.16.40 #       <gringo_> hey - does anyone know if the jukebox recorder charges with just the usb cable?  Or does it only charge with the dc jack.
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21.41.30 #       <john-> so, anyone around?
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23.15.49 #       <uski> anyone can give me an url to d/l the video plugin joerg has made ?
23.15.49 #       <uski> i can't find it
23.16.17 #       <_aLF> it is in the daily build
23.16.30 #       <_aLF> just install a daily build
23.16.36 #       <uski> hmm ok
23.19.37 #       <uski> and is there a place where i can get a sample rvf file ?
23.19.51 #       <uski> i don't have windows here to run joerg's rvf file converter
23.20.28 #       <_aLF> http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/rvf.html
23.20.41 #       <_aLF> describe how to create rvf from avi
23.20.43 #       <uski> hmm. thx. :]
23.21.05 #       <_aLF> else here : http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/doom/doom.zip
23.21.51 #       <uski> great :)
23.22.19 #       <uski> "This Process Is For Windows Users Only" duh
23.22.32 #       <uski> ishould try to make a transcode plugin to handle rvf files...
23.22.39 #       <uski> (transcode is a video file manipulation program)
23.25.25 #       <_aLF> (I know)
23.26.15 #       <uski> (ok ;))
23.26.29 #       <uski> hmmm, this video plugin works well !
23.26.35 #       <uski> i should have triedi t before
23.26.42 #       <uski> duh, i do it again:
23.26.46 #       <uski> i should have tried it before
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23.27.28 #       <uski> gtg
23.27.39 #       <uski> thanks _aLF :)
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23.54.14 #       <john-> if a hard drive in an Archos does not read correctly and takes a long time to boot and finally gives an error, is the drive completely screwed, or can some scan utility be used or reformat it?
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