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00.13.40 #       <midknight2k3> hi all you
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00.16.45 #       <midknight2k3> hi edx
00.16.54 #       <edx> hi :D
00.18.04 #       <edx> and good nite
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00.18.39 #       <midknight2k3> nite
00.18.43 #       <midknight2k3> :\
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00.24.21 #       <midknight2k3> tops
00.24.22 #       <midknight2k3> woo
00.24.48 #       <top_bloke> hey
00.24.51 #       <top_bloke> woo
00.25.02 #       <midknight2k3> top top toppy
00.25.09 #       <top_bloke> indeed.
00.26.07 #       <top_bloke> u know what kind of hard drive a zen has?
00.26.42 #       <top_bloke> or anyone else
00.27.45 #       <midknight2k3> uhh
00.27.58 #       <midknight2k3> just typical 2.5"
00.28.14 #       <top_bloke> for real?
00.28.24 #       <top_bloke> i thought it was some special smaller one
00.28.44 #       <scott666> it might be a 1.8"
00.28.49 #       <midknight2k3> nope
00.29.07 #       <top_bloke> its thin
00.29.22 #       <top_bloke> but otherwise about archos size
00.29.58 #       <midknight2k3> 2. point. 5. inches.
00.30.05 #       <top_bloke> ok jeez
00.30.10 #       <top_bloke> nah j/k
00.30.25 #       <top_bloke> well then i can get a free zen if i get the hard drive for it
00.30.41 #       <midknight2k3> no actually
00.30.43 #       <midknight2k3> its a special type
00.30.47 #       <top_bloke> ?
00.30.49 #       <top_bloke> wtf
00.30.51 #       <midknight2k3> and it has er certain restrictions
00.30.52 #       <midknight2k3> and uh
00.30.52 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
00.30.58 #       <top_bloke> boo
00.31.04 #       <midknight2k3> ?
00.31.10 #       <midknight2k3> nothing
00.31.11 #       <midknight2k3> nm
00.31.14 #       <top_bloke> what u mean restrictions?
00.31.30 #       <top_bloke> ok
00.31.30 #       <midknight2k3> kidding
00.31.52 #       <top_bloke> it IS pretty sleek
00.32.56 #       <top_bloke> but then i dont wanna spend $ for a hd
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01.20.57 #       <track> hio
01.20.59 #       <track> hi
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01.26.12 #       <track> Hi Adiamas
01.26.13 #       <track> :-)
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01.53.11 #       <midk|bbs2> ah
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01.57.16 #       <jef-fer-rey> I have an Archos studio 20 jukebox with windows xp...i am tryin to load the rockbox onto my mp3 player but it wont let the mp3 player be recognized. I installed the drivers from archos, and everytime i plug in my mp3 player, my comp gets REALLY slow
01.57.44 #       <midknight2k3> hi to you too
01.57.47 #       <midknight2k3> drivers in?
01.58.14 #       <jef-fer-rey> what?
01.58.14 #       <jef-fer-rey> hello
01.58.14 #       <jef-fer-rey> lol
01.58.19 #       <jef-fer-rey> what do you mean
01.58.39 #       <midknight2k3> are your drivers installed?
01.58.43 #       <jef-fer-rey> yeah
01.59.01 #       <top_bloke> u dont need drivers w xp
01.59.09 #       <jef-fer-rey> should I uninstall them?
01.59.17 #       <jef-fer-rey> is that why its so slow?
01.59.17 #       <jef-fer-rey> driver conflict?
01.59.32 #       <top_bloke> yeah xp should recognize it
01.59.50 #       <jef-fer-rey> ok
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02.02.06 #       <jef-fer-rey> it needs some file
02.02.11 #       <jef-fer-rey> tppun.exe
02.02.12 #       <midknight2k3> hi track
02.02.14 #       <top_bloke> ?
02.02.15 #       <track> hi mid
02.02.42 #       <jef-fer-rey> what do i do
02.02.48 #       <jef-fer-rey> it dosent liek my drivers
02.02.52 #       <jef-fer-rey> the ones with xp
02.03.50 #       <top_bloke> mhhm
02.04.09 #       <jef-fer-rey> ok i got it to work...it is copying the drivers but it got hung up on the last driver that it is copying...what do i do...wait it out?
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02.04.26 #       <top_bloke> i guess
02.05.16 #       <jef-fer-rey> ok last question
02.05.39 #       <jef-fer-rey> it installed...and now it says that it is ready to use....BUT..it dosent show up under my computer
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02.14.10 #       <midknight2k3> hi tops
02.19.33 #       <top_bloke> hi?
02.20.32 #       <midknight2k3> hi
02.22.12 #       <top_bloke> hi
02.22.28 #       <midknight2k3> hi tops
02.22.34 #       <top_bloke> jeez
02.22.50 #       <top_bloke> ?
02.24.19 #       <midknight2k3> what
02.24.36 #       <top_bloke> nothing
02.24.57 #       <midknight2k3> hi
02.25.02 #       <top_bloke> HI
02.43.17 #       <midknight2k3> HI TOPS
02.47.54 #       <top_bloke> lol
02.47.59 #       <midknight2k3> HI I SAId
02.48.10 #       <top_bloke> hi.
02.48.13 #       <top_bloke> lol
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03.30.57 #       <midknight2k3> eat me Ni
03.31.01 #       <midknight2k3> bbler
03.31.04 #       <midknight2k3> :D
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04.26.13 #       <midknight2k3> scott
04.26.14 #       <midknight2k3> hey
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09.22.24 #       <webmind> moin
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10.13.48 #       <asdfoinawesf> i think that when the keypad lock is on, the backlights should stay off when buttons are accidentally pressed.
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10.14.43 #       <asdfoinawesf> because when i had my jukebox in my pocket today, my batteries were about about 90 and it dropped to about 60 after 1-2 hours of play, which i think is pretty fast
10.15.07 #       <asdfoinawesf> i think maybe a button was pressed by my pants when i sat down, which activated the backlights and drained the battery
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16.58.46 #       <kargatron> gotta problem with my recorder:
16.59.02 #       <kargatron> just updated to daily build after being at old aug 03 bookmark build for long time
16.59.19 #       <kargatron> now whenever i try playing something, I get a PANIC:
16.59.32 #       <kargatron> 'Dir entry 1 in sector 2 is not free'
16.59.37 #       <kargatron> which sounds bad.
16.59.48 #       <kargatron> did my disk write corrupt something?
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17.11.12 #       <hardeep> kargatron: a bunch of people have been reporting that.  Which version did you update to?
17.11.21 #       <kargatron> 0204
17.11.31 #       <kargatron> but when i rolo to my old version, same problem
17.11.47 #       <hardeep> kargatron: yeah, the disk is corrupt
17.11.52 #       <kargatron> whole thing?
17.11.58 #       <kargatron> or just this or that file?
17.12.01 #       <kargatron> must i wipe?
17.12.06 #       <hardeep> kargatron: a scandisk will probably fix it
17.12.23 #       <hardeep> kargatron: what did you do after installing the new version?
17.12.42 #       <hardeep> kargatron: maybe create a new directory from Menu->Create Directory or try recording something?
17.13.01 #       <hardeep> er s/create/created
17.13.45 #       <kargatron> hm
17.13.58 #       <kargatron> only thing non-mundane was perhaps reading or writing a bookmark?
17.14.26 #       <hardeep> hmmm
17.14.32 #       <kargatron> since bookmarks were screwed up from update (format change), I wrote a new playlist file, but not thru rockbox
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17.15.24 #       <hardeep> yeah, i can't see any of that causing problems
17.15.42 #       <hardeep> try a scandisk and see what file it reports is faulty
17.15.50 #       <hardeep> maybe that'll give us some hints
17.15.52 #       <kargatron> ok
17.19.22 #       <kargatron> hm, rn error-check with no auto-fix options, reported nothing
17.21.20 #       <hardeep> can you access everything on the jukebox harddrive from your pc?
17.21.29 #       <kargatron> yes
17.21.42 #       <kargatron> but whoops, just auto-fixed, and got screwed up:
17.21.58 #       <kargatron> lost my _Playlists dir/, and it became FOUND000/
17.22.20 #       <kargatron> all sortsa files now named FILE0043.CHK etc
17.22.22 #       <kargatron> greeeat
17.22.34 #       <kargatron> which are my playlists, etc.  what a pain
17.23.17 #       <hardeep> you probably played one of your playlists right?
17.23.44 #       <kargatron> yeah
17.23.46 #       <kargatron> tried
17.25.04 #       <hardeep> a number of people have reported that the .rockbox directory is corrupt, that's not the case for you?
17.25.13 #       <kargatron> so should i back out of 0204?
17.25.17 #       <kargatron> part of it was, i think
17.25.32 #       <kargatron> my docs/ dir under .rockbox got moved to my FOUND/ dir
17.25.43 #       <kargatron> but i can read other parts of it
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17.26.17 #       <hardeep> yeah, backing out is probably a good idea for now.  2.1 seems to be working for everyone
17.26.31 #       <hardeep> is it just the .rockbox and playlist directories that are corrupt?
17.26.58 #       <kargatron> all recovered files are text files
17.27.13 #       <kargatron> hoas, lemme try an mp3 on my box
17.27.29 #       <kargatron> random mp3 ok
17.28.08 #       <kargatron> still, qstn now is - back out of this build?  or was this one time prob?
17.28.33 #       <hardeep> definitely back out for now...
17.28.46 #       <hardeep> at least until we have some idea what's causing the problem
17.28.55 #       <kargatron> should i email list?
17.29.12 #       <hardeep> there's a couple of open bug reports on it, maybe just add to them
17.29.22 #       <kargatron> right
17.29.24 #       <kargatron> ok, thx
17.29.37 #       <hardeep> so, only the .rockbox and playlist directories are corrupt?
17.30.13 #       <hardeep> 'cause if those are the only two then it sounds like there might be a problem in the file writing code
17.30.58 #       <hardeep> the bookmark would have been saved to your playlist directory and the internal playlist control file would have been saved to .rockbox
17.31.36 #       <kargatron> afaict, playlists/rockbox only messed up
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17.31.54 #       <kargatron> certainly both were changed by my error check recovery
17.32.08 #       <kargatron> reverting to old ajz plays as normal, fortunately
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17.50.15 #       <squirrel_master> can somone please help me with my archos jukebox studio 20
17.51.01 #       <hardeep> squirrel_master: what's the problem?
17.51.38 #       <squirrel_master> ok I finally got my comp to recognize my studio 20...BUT...it is unbeleivably slow...it slows my whole comp down
17.51.49 #       <squirrel_master> and I cant do anything
17.51.56 #       <squirrel_master> XP pro
17.53.36 #       <squirrel_master> any solution?
17.53.42 #       <squirrel_master> or am i screwed
17.54.31 #       <hardeep> unfortunately, I can't help you with that... have you tried google searches for XP pro and USB 1.1 ?
17.54.32 #       <kargatron> driver issue?  
17.54.44 #       <kargatron> perhaps a working but not optimal driver?
17.54.49 #       <squirrel_master> i dont think it is...but how would I know
17.54.56 #       <squirrel_master> Im using 2.0
17.54.57 #       <squirrel_master> usb 2
17.55.10 #       <kurzhaarrocker> xp has its own drivers -> no installation necessary
17.55.18 #       <squirrel_master> no...i tried that
17.55.32 #       <squirrel_master> it says that it needed some tppun.exe file
17.55.34 #       <squirrel_master> or somehting
17.55.43 #       <squirrel_master> so xp wouldent install it
17.55.47 #       <squirrel_master> BUT
17.55.50 #       <squirrel_master> i could try again
17.56.14 #       <kurzhaarrocker> hm. Well, I have a rec 15, with the isd200 chip thus I don't really know about the isd300 stuff.
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17.57.03 #       <squirrel_master> ok here we go...i uninstalled the drivers...and it says it found new hardware
17.57.12 #       <squirrel_master> do i have it install it on its own?
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17.57.18 #       <squirrel_master> or do i choose the drivers
17.57.43 #       <kargatron> try letting it do the work first, see how it goes
17.57.48 #       <squirrel_master> it says its looking for a usb storage adapter v2
17.57.52 #       <kargatron> can always customize later
17.58.13 #       <squirrel_master> it froze on the last part where it transfers the drivers
17.59.00 #       <squirrel_master> yeah
17.59.05 #       <squirrel_master> its frozen
18.00.00 #       <squirrel_master> um
18.00.04 #       <squirrel_master> it continued
18.00.09 #       <squirrel_master> it says its ready to use
18.00.17 #       <squirrel_master> but when i go to my computer
18.00.25 #       <squirrel_master> it freezes when i click on the F drive
18.00.51 #       <squirrel_master> AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
18.00.52 #       <squirrel_master> error
18.01.01 #       <squirrel_master> f drive is not accessable due to an I/O error
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18.06.04 #       <hardeep> kargatron: can I give you an updated firmware to try and track down the disk write error?
18.07.00 #       <kargatron> ok, but
18.07.20 #       <kargatron> batteries are low/blinking, due to lots of disk activity, and i don't have my charger
18.07.32 #       <kargatron> dunno how much juice i have for testing
18.07.35 #       <hardeep> ah, okay, well we can quickly try this. :)
18.07.40 #       <hardeep> what device do you have?
18.08.09 #       <kargatron> recorder 20
18.09.51 #       <hardeep> okay: hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec.ajz
18.10.14 #       <hardeep> it reverts back to an older version of the ata code
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18.19.41 #       <hardeep> kargatron: and if that still fails and you still have some juice left http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec_mkdir.ajz reverts the mkdir() changes
18.19.57 #       <hardeep> those were the two big disk-related changes post-2.1
18.22.04 #       <kargatron> hardeep  - your test works fine afaict
18.22.16 #       <kargatron> wrote bookmark, played fine
18.24.51 #       <hardeep> kargatron: how about resume?
18.34.43 #       <kargatron> lemme try
18.35.17 #       <kargatron> resume worked
18.35.24 #       <kargatron> but why can't i get my config choices to stick?
18.36.17 #       <kargatron> i activeate a cfg file, looks good - restart and it's gone.  should stick, right?
18.36.20 #       <hardeep> which choices?  fonts have been moved to a different directory (/.rockbox/fonts)
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18.41.08 #       <sjosdasd> ok im back...i talked to tech support about my jukebox studio 20
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18.41.28 #       <Squirrel_master> they said that I needed to update my bios
18.41.38 #       <Squirrel_master> im not messing with that
18.42.10 #       <Squirrel_master> anything else?
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21.47.14 #       <Canvin> hiel
21.47.18 #       <Canvin> hie all *
21.47.33 #       <Canvin> i've a problem on my player 20
21.47.48 #       <Canvin> when i copy multiple directories
21.48.06 #       <Canvin> on my archos
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21.48.45 #       <Canvin> when it create a dir on archos i wait 1 minutes for each
21.49.03 #       <Canvin> so 2 dir 2 minutes etc..
21.49.14 #       <Canvin> i'm on win xp sp1
21.50.54 #       <Canvin> ...
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22.46.06 #       <hardeep> [IDC]Dragon: around?
22.46.31 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes
22.47.46 #       <hardeep> [IDC]Dragon: it looks like the disk corruption that some people are seeing might be related to your ata optimizations
22.48.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> oops
22.48.21 #       <hardeep> [IDC]Dragon: i gave kargatron a version of the daily build with the 2.1 version of ata.c and he doesn't see the problems
22.48.22 #       <[IDC]Dragon> meaning, I read too fast?
22.48.41 #       <hardeep> i'm not sure... the other possibility is Zagor's changes, those were the only things done post-2.1
22.49.05 #       <hardeep> of course, maybe it's just fluke that it started working after the change I made
22.49.06 #       <[IDC]Dragon> hmm, can we cofigure waitstates for that IDE address?
22.49.26 #       <[IDC]Dragon> what chang you made?
22.49.40 #       <hardeep> oh, i just reverted to the 2.1 version of ata.c
22.50.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> and nothing else?
22.50.20 #       <hardeep> 1.96
22.50.23 #       <hardeep> no, nothing else
22.51.01 #       <Zagor> try simply defining the PREFER_C macro
22.51.02 #       <hardeep> it seems to be that file writing is broken on some systems
22.51.41 #       <hardeep> well, my system is okay so I can't test... kargatron was having problems and I've seen a number of reports on the mailing list
22.51.44 #       <[IDC]Dragon> with the macro, it still is faster than 2.1
22.52.06 #       <[IDC]Dragon> the optimization did nothing to writing
22.52.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> maybe the bus is configured too fast, so we can read faster that the ATA spec
22.53.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> faster than
22.59.22 #       <hardeep> let's see if kargatron logs on again and maybe we can narrow it down more
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23.18.40 #       <Bagder> switched the list now
23.21.13 #       <[IDC]Dragon> what's the reason behind it?
23.21.21 #       <Bagder> better admin interface
23.21.31 #       <Bagder> better personal control for everyone too
23.21.40 #       <Bagder> hopefully better delivery
23.21.59 #       <Bagder> better bonce removal
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23.26.58 #       * Bagder sees double ;-)
23.27.25 #       <Zagor_> my router is resetting itself, thus breaking all my tcp connections. it's *VERY* annoying.
23.32.43 #       <Bagder> "The following addresses had permanent fatal errors" ...
23.32.47 #       <Bagder> quite a few
23.33.13 #       <Zagor_> yeah. nice to finally have them auto-managed
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23.36.29 #       <Bagder> down on 494 subscribers now ;-)
23.41.32 #       <Bagder> seems to be going well
23.41.39 #       <Bagder> no mail on it yet though
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