--- Log for 06.02.104 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 2 days and 0 hours ago 00.07.41 Quit oxygen77 ("Leaving") 00.15.57 Nick edx{code} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EAAB89.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.23.13 Quit NickeT ("Client Exiting") 00.47.45 Quit edx () 01.04.31 Join asdfoinawesf [0] (azntwboy@dhcp54.northsouth.iit.edu) 01.25.41 Join track [0] (74d57721@ACBFD6A1.ipt.aol.com) 01.27.08 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.33.43 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.41.15 Part scott666 01.44.07 Quit asdfoinawesf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.57.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> goodnight! 01.57.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.58.19 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 02.06.52 # hi 02.14.09 Join Xytrix [0] (Xydunno@dch.Stanford.EDU) 02.14.55 Quit track ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 02.15.01 # if i replace the batteries for the jukebox w/ nimh batteries that are higher mAh than 1500, should i charge them in a separate charger or will the jukebox charger charge them correctly? 02.15.16 Quit AciD ("Il vaut mieux douter de ses certitudes que d'être sur de ses doutes.") 02.42.16 Join midknight2k3 [0] (ZakkRobert@c-24-18-39-169.client.comcast.net) 02.47.57 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 03.22.10 Quit midknight2k3 ("Going... BYE!") 03.22.11 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.22.15 Join midknight2k3 [0] (ZakkRobert@c-24-18-39-169.client.comcast.net) 03.44.17 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk|bbs (ZakkRobert@c-24-18-39-169.client.comcast.net) 03.57.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.43.27 Join stevenm [0] (~stevenm@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 04.43.34 # Hi all 04.43.49 # Where is the utility to encode video as the new rvf format ? 04.49.36 # uhh.. people ? 04.56.34 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c19 for the PalmPilot today!") 04.58.51 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-73-89.reverse.qsc.de) 05.00.51 Quit Xytrix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.54 Part stevenm ("there's a reason dogs don't chew carpet") 05.27.13 Nick midk|bbs is now known as midknight2k3 (ZakkRobert@c-24-18-39-169.client.comcast.net) 05.27.14 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.28.51 # yay check it out 05.53.16 Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.55.43 Join midknight2k3 [0] (ZakkRobert@c-24-18-39-169.client.comcast.net) 05.57.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.09.29 Quit midknight2k3 ("Going... BYE!") 07.11.00 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-73-89.reverse.qsc.de) 07.37.17 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.57.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.59.36 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp91.contactor.se) 08.53.24 Quit wake ("rebooting") 09.00.17 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Montreal-ppp32914.qc.sympatico.ca) 09.11.12 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-73-89.reverse.qsc.de) 09.27.12 Quit wake (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.28.03 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 09.33.28 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Ottawa-ppp163988.sympatico.ca) 09.57.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.05.41 Join iomm [0] (dedal@proteines.u-strasbg.fr) 10.05.41 Quit dwihno (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.05.41 Quit Nibbler (Connection reset by peer) 10.05.48 Part iomm 10.50.44 Quit AciD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.56.10 Join DiegoLego [0] (~chatzilla@tucan.physik.uni-giessen.de) 10.56.48 # Hi! 10.57.15 # Can someone of you help me? 10.58.14 # I have noticed that there are different versions of rockbox for different versions of Recorder. How do I know Which one I have? 11.14.24 Join kurzhaarrocker [200] (~Phil@158.17.204.212.sr1.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) 11.21.19 # Hi? 11.21.47 # hi 11.23.43 # Can you tell me, how I can distinguish between the different versions of Recorders? 11.24.14 # You mean V1 and V2? 11.24.56 # or 8MB 11.25.27 # 8MB is a special hardwara modification. It requires unsoldering a memory chip and replacing it. 11.26.05 # V1 uses normal mignon batteries, V2 has a built in battery that is not replacable without screwdrivers. 11.28.08 # so probably I have V2, scince I never opened it and there is no way to open it without screwing 11.30.12 # The difference in rockbox is only in the way of charging, right? 11.31.32 # on http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/ you can see numerous photos of players and recorders. None of them is a V2. -> If yours looks differently it's probably a V2. 11.31.32 # There are more differences than charging. 11.34.54 # It looks much like the shown ones. 11.35.32 # I also installes version 2.0 of rockbox v1, and I had no problem. 11.36.05 # Recently I installed also a daily build and all people working on rockbox are doing a really great work! 11.42.46 # So you have a v1 (rockbox for v2 wouldn't work on a v1 unit). that means that you can exchange the batteries too, if you really wanted to. Without tools 11.46.14 Join track [0] (74d57721@ACBCFE18.ipt.aol.com) 11.47.01 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-73-89.reverse.qsc.de) 11.57.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.58.32 Join dwihno [0] (~Mongo@h81172195115.kund.kommunicera.umea.se) 12.07.16 Quit track ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 12.31.53 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 12.36.31 Join saskatoon [0] (~saskatoon@dialin-212-144-017-175.arcor-ip.net) 12.39.35 # I have also tried rockboxui for linux, but it does not work. I get the message 'No file system found'. What must be done 12.42.27 # rockboxui? Do you mean the simulator? 12.42.58 # yes 12.43.56 # The simulator needs a directory that simulates the hd of the jukebox. I'm not sure how it must be named right now. 12.44.38 # I think its just archos or .archos I'm not sure. 12.45.23 # archos 12.46.03 # is the a restriction about the path? 12.46.15 # the win32 sim doesn't work tho... 12.46.24 # not sure about the x11 one 12.46.54 # I had the win32 sim running a few weeks ago. 12.47.03 # with the archos folder ? 12.47.36 # i have found that .rockbox has to be off the root of the current drive 12.47.57 # that means? 12.48.18 # the win32 sim uses c:\ 12.48.39 # not c:\...\build\archos 12.49.11 # but on this computer I am not root, thus it is probably not possible for me on linux, right? 12.49.26 # I don't know how it works with linux 12.49.35 # me neither 12.50.56 # usually the directory sits off the build directory 12.51.06 # DiegoLego, what directory are you building in ? 12.51.22 # * kurzhaarrocker goes munching some food 12.51.49 # actually I am not building at all, I just extracted the sim into a directory called archos 12.52.15 # where did you get the sim ? 12.52.57 # Bleeding edge builds 12.54.05 # ok, i understand 12.54.39 # do you have an archos folder in the same folder as the sim ? 12.55.02 # only .rockbox 12.55.15 # also ajbrec.ajz 12.56.20 # try putting an archos folder in the same folder as the sim 12.56.40 # then put .rockbox in there instead 12.56.54 # in the folder you'll have the sim 12.57.02 # and \archos 12.57.13 # and in \archos you'll have \.rockbox 12.57.23 # like archos\.rockobx 12.57.34 # you won't need ajbrec.ajz 12.59.41 # running :) 13.01.13 # yay!! 13.01.50 # it cannot run plugin, is this ok? 13.03.08 # but they are in archos/archos/.rockbox/rocks 13.04.04 # most of them work ok in win32 13.04.36 # maybe not in linux 13.04.36 # you have them in the correct folder 13.07.08 # scince the rockbox stuff is too difficult for me. So I thought may be I can have some tries to work out a plugin. 13.07.26 # With some C-skills this should be possible. 13.08.06 # absolutely. i haven't programmed in C for 10 years and my skills are at beginner level 13.08.25 # i have successfully modified the f2 menu and make it user configurable 13.08.50 # but kurzhaarrocker won't test it :( 13.09.02 # My idea was to try it with the simulator, then a plugin should also run on the archos. 13.09.44 # i use the sim for most of my testing - i have not written a plugin tho 13.10.36 # a gcc is installed on my computer. Can I use this? 13.11.49 # i use cygwin on windows, but for linus look at http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs under the "hackers" section 13.11.57 # linus=linux 13.14.07 # (förlåt linus) 13.14.13 # Building the cross-compiler ... 13.15.04 # The problem is, I do not understand what is written there. 13.15.53 # me neither 13.16.03 # you'll need one of the linux gurus 13.17.01 # linus or zagor are the best bet. if you lurk in the channel you'll see them 13.17.37 # anyway thanks a lot 13.17.46 # np 13.21.59 # ok, I will wait a while 13.36.58 Quit wake (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.40.15 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Ottawa-ppp164612.sympatico.ca) 13.46.48 Join wake_ [0] (~wake@HSE-Ottawa-ppp164109.sympatico.ca) 13.46.48 Quit wake_ (Client Quit) 13.57.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.59.10 Join wake_ [0] (~wake@HSE-Ottawa-ppp164109.sympatico.ca) 14.00.00 Quit wake (Connection timed out) 14.00.14 Nick wake_ is now known as wake (~wake@HSE-Ottawa-ppp164109.sympatico.ca) 14.09.32 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA97D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.11.45 Nick edx is now known as edx{hw} (edx@pD9EA97D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.25.22 Quit MT ("changing servers") 14.26.51 Join MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 14.32.10 Quit AciD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.34.37 Nick c0utta is now known as c0utta{zZ} (HydraIRC@dialup-116.100.220.203.acc03-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 14.50.54 # How about the video plugin, which format does it support? 14.51.34 # a special video format. You have to convert your video. 14.53.10 Nick edx{hw} is now known as edx{eatz} (edx@pD9EA97D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.53.43 Join pfavr [0] (pfavr@dyna218-123.nada.kth.se) 15.01.36 # is there a special tool to do this? 15.09.45 Part arneh 15.11.19 # one tool for converting the video and a second one to multiplex it with the sound. 15.14.14 Nick edx{eatz} is now known as edx{hw} (edx@pD9EA97D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.20.16 # how are they called? 15.22.21 # I don't know, I haven't used them yet. The video with audio is quite new. Maybe you should search the mailing lists for info: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/ 15.27.12 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61c8c.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 15.35.23 # How is the video format called? 15.36.02 # .rvf (rockbox video format), iirc 15.43.52 # sounds interesting 15.57.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.13.30 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.15.24 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 16.16.10 Nick edx{hw} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EA97D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.27.40 Join kargatron [0] (~vkargatis@bbdc-64-124-103-10.blackboard.com) 16.30.12 # i've been out of the rockbox loop for a while - is playlist browsing imminent by any chance, or is it just one of many not-yet-implemented FRs? 16.32.54 # how do u mean? 16.33.54 # while playing a playlist, browsing it as text, seeing what comes next, etc 16.34.14 # even allowing goto when selecting other track, that kinda thing 16.43.28 # there is a playlist browser. 16.45.52 # ah, cool - 16.46.10 # just upgraded from aug 03 build, so unfamiliar with new stuff 16.48.23 # i see it now. have keybindings been introduced? 16.48.32 # that would be nice to access from menu buttons 16.48.38 # the pl browse 16.52.38 # c0utta{zZ} has programmed user definable f2 menu, but it isn't in the main build yet 16.54.10 Quit kurzhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 17.17.01 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 17.17.03 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.19.21 Quit AciD (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.22.03 Nick edx is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EA97D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.27.45 # kargatron: around? 17.46.47 # here 17.47.45 # is that updated version working for you? 17.48.06 DBUG Enqueued KICK kargatron 17.48.06 # 15[12:22] hardeep - your test works fine afaict 01 17.48.08 # from yesterday 17.48.15 # the first one you provided 17.48.22 # okay 17.48.24 # the ATA code reversion (i think) 17.48.28 # can we try one more test? 17.57.32 # if you have a chance, please try: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec_preferc.ajz, it enables the PREFER_C define in ata.c 17.57.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.59.50 # ok 18.00.22 # ok if i rolo to it? or you prefer raw boot 18.01.26 # rolo is okay 18.01.47 # then play a track or playlist and re-rolo to see if resume works 18.05.26 # seems ok 18.05.48 # hmmm, interesting 18.05.54 # okay, thanks 18.05.59 # rolo'd to PREFERC, played, bookmarked, etc, rolo to base and resume works 18.06.23 # bye! 18.07.04 # hmmm, how about rolo'ing back to prefer_c and see if resume works 18.08.04 Quit DiegoLego (Remote closed the connection) 18.08.34 # works 18.09.52 # anything else before I shut off? 18.10.45 # nah, thanks.... looks like that may be the problem 18.11.15 # meaning disabled PREFER_C in current builds the problem? 18.11.57 # yeah, I'm going to mention it to [IDC]Dragon and Zagor who know this stuff better than I 18.12.46 # glad i could help 18.15.37 Quit pfavr ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4") 18.40.32 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD951239A.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.41.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi hardeep, kargatron 18.41.44 # i'm just a tester, can't answer any tech questions :) 18.42.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm just the developer who broke it :( 18.43.13 # then you're lucky your bug only corrupted some playlist files. :) 18.43.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> phew.. 18.45.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> can you reproduce it reliably? 18.45.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> (not the corruption, but telling if it's OK or not) 18.51.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> hardeep: this tinkering is working on the symptom, not the cause. If thesoftware can read too fast from the ATA port, I think the bus setup for the port is not OK. 18.52.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> Unless the ATA spec said in this PIO mode you can read with such bustiming, but accesses must be that far apart. 18.52.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> Which I doubt. 18.52.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> Linus might know, or Zagor. 18.54.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> Meanwhile we can check if a "nop" before "mov.w @%1,%0 \n" /* unrolled, do one more */ would relax it, these are the accesses most close together. 18.54.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> brb 19.00.33 Quit edx{code} () 19.01.09 Join edx{code} [0] (edx@pD9EA97D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.03.43 Quit edx{code} (Client Quit) 19.04.26 Join edx{code} [0] (edx@pD9EABB08.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.05.56 Nick edx{code} is now known as edx (edx@pD9EABB08.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.08.58 # [IDC]Dragon: yeah, I was just trying to track down when the problem was introduced, not on how to fix it. 19.09.08 # I gotta run 19.09.10 # quit 19.09.13 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Size DOES matter") 19.10.39 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 19.18.46 Nick edx is now known as edx{off} (edx@pD9EABB08.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.57.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.06.11 Quit AciD (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.45.26 Join pfavr [0] (~pfavr@c83958a.s-oe.bostream.se) 21.47.59 Join stevenm [0] (~stevenm@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 21.49.09 # does anyone know the address of the video conversion utility? 21.49.30 Quit pfavr ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.2.4") 21.50.36 Part kargatron 21.51.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> stevenm: http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/video/tools.zip 21.53.00 # [IDC]Dragon, Thanks 21.53.05 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.53.09 # Are those for linux, windows, or what? 21.53.14 # What about any "sample" video ? 21.53.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> windows 21.53.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> http://rockbox.haxx.se/newvid/ 21.54.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> you don't read the postings, do you? 21.54.55 # Postings on the main page? 21.55.22 # I see that there is now support for audio, but if there is a page with these URLs, where is it? 21.55.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> in the rockbox mailing list, yes 21.55.54 # Oh, thanks 21.57.50 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 21.57.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.58.03 # How should the converter be used? Which program ? 22.00.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> Oh, my original posting is a victim of the list switch, not there. 22.00.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> This one cites it: 22.00.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-02/0085.shtml 22.02.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> and this was about the preview: 22.02.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-02/0071.shtml 22.03.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> the FPS test is also interesting if you encode your own: 22.03.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-01/0741.shtml 22.26.27 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 22.33.46 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 23.00.26 Quit stevenm ("Leaving") 23.01.47 Quit AciD (Connection timed out) 23.09.03 Join pfavr [0] (~pfavr@c83958a.s-oe.bostream.se) 23.11.12 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 23.44.03 Join _aLF [0] (alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 23.57.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"