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01.27.07 #       <track> hi
01.41.12 #       <scott666> is there anybody out there?
01.41.20 #       <track> hey scott
01.41.27 #       <track> track is here
01.41.28 #       <track> :-)
01.41.32 #       <scott666> my ctrl keys hate me
01.41.48 #       <scott666> one thinks its the power button on my computer
01.41.56 #       <track> oh
01.42.01 #       <scott666> the other opens the calculator and the help menu
01.42.05 #       <track> perhaps your keyboard is buggered
01.42.25 #       <scott666> perhaps
01.42.36 #       <scott666> i dont have another to test with though
01.42.50 #       <track> lol
01.42.55 #       <track> i wish midknight was here
01.43.07 #       <scott666> hes idle
01.43.21 #       <track> ea
01.43.22 #       <track> yea
01.45.23 #       <track> Scott do u have a digital camera?
01.45.47 #       <scott666> yeah
01.46.07 #       <track> Do you ever use the digital zoom?
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01.49.46 #       <scott666> ok, its the keyboard
01.49.51 #       <scott666> just tested on the laptop
01.51.17 #       <track> hi 
01.53.19 #       <track> do u use the digital zoom in ur camera?
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02.03.17 #       <midk|bbs> hi
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02.05.30 #       <track> hey midknight
02.05.32 #       <track> hows u?
02.05.37 #       <midknight2k3> good
02.05.42 #       <midknight2k3> track: i never use the digital zoom
02.05.49 #       <track> me neither
02.05.58 #       <midknight2k3> unless i must... my camera only allows it if i switch to .3MP mode
02.06.04 #       <track> do all the digital zooming in photoshop
02.06.08 #       <track> otherwise I use the optical zoom
02.06.10 #       <midknight2k3> so its very nice quality but simply small res
02.06.13 #       <track> yea
02.06.14 #       <midknight2k3> optical yay
02.06.16 #       <midknight2k3> i hace 6x optical
02.06.18 #       <midknight2k3> have*
02.06.19 #       <track> ;-)
02.06.25 #       <track> how many megapixels is ur camera?
02.06.47 #       <midknight2k3> 3.2
02.06.55 #       <track> mine is just 2 megapixels
02.07.01 #       <track> but the quality is very good
02.07.07 #       <midknight2k3> yaeh
02.07.09 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
02.07.25 #       <track> ;-
02.07.27 #       <track> ;-)
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03.03.20 #       <midknight2k3> hi AciD
03.03.31 #       <AciD> hi
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03.30.45 #       <midknight2k3> JESUS CRP
03.33.24 #       <webmind> ?
03.33.38 #       <midknight2k3> i have 2.8GB in my c:\rvf folder
03.33.55 #       <midknight2k3> thats all my converted AVI to YUV then to RVF and some WAV and MP3 mixed in
03.33.59 #       <midknight2k3> just a few WAVs
03.34.05 #       <webmind> ah
03.34.06 #       <midknight2k3> one AVI is 160MB
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03.52.29 #       <midknight2k3> hi sWampy
03.52.58 #       <sWampy> hey, just got a recorder from amazon today and am checking out rockbox.
03.53.45 #       <midknight2k3> yay
03.53.52 #       <midknight2k3> how much was it?
03.54.13 #       <sWampy> 199-50rebate so 149 I guess.
03.56.01 #       <sWampy> trying to figure out if I should flash it, do you have to hold down on for as long to get it to cut on if you flash it?  You have to hold the on button on till the progress bar starts to flash or it cuts itself off.
03.56.41 #       <midknight2k3> no
03.56.43 #       <midknight2k3> you just have to press it
03.56.55 #       <midknight2k3> but if you flash it only takes about 3-4 seconds to boot
03.57.06 #       <sWampy> hmm, wonder if mine if broke.
03.57.21 #       <midknight2k3> which model?
03.57.58 #       <sWampy> hmm says jukebox recorder 20 v2.
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03.58.15 #       <midknight2k3> v2 eh
03.58.18 #       <midknight2k3> and you have to hold it?
03.59.37 #       <sWampy> yes, it's wierd, you push it and red and green lights come on, screen lights up, display starts to show progress bar, and if you let go of on button before it gets like 1/4 of the way across, it cuts itself back off.
04.01.09 #       <midknight2k3> humm
04.01.20 #       <midknight2k3> well it should fix that
04.02.29 #       <sWampy> how do you back up the eeprom so if it doesn't I can flash it back and return it for exchange?
04.04.51 #       <midknight2k3> you do Menu->info->debug->dump rom contents
04.04.59 #       <midknight2k3> i'm here to help if you want it
04.05.59 #       <sWampy> I just found that, I had read the instructions 3 times and someway I guess I was just skimming and remember seeing make sure you backup, but not remembering it saying how to till I really read them. ;-/
04.06.36 #       <midknight2k3> no problem
04.06.39 #       <midknight2k3> like i said, glad to help
04.06.43 #       <midknight2k3> :)
04.09.08 #       <sWampy> any suggestions on the best way to organize songs, at first I had artist/song.mp3 and had like 700 artists, and the directory over flowed, so I divided them like a-e/f-m/n-Z or something.  Is something like that what most people do, is there a better way, or can you bump the max number of directories up.   First time I had to worry about 20gigs of mp3's in one device. ;-)
04.10.04 #       <midknight2k3> ok well
04.10.07 #       <midknight2k3> i'd recommend
04.10.28 #       <midknight2k3> genre->artist->album->XX - song.mp3
04.10.54 #       <midknight2k3> perhaps an A-L and M-Z category for the genre subfolders if you must
04.14.43 #       <sWampy> hmm I should work on my genre's, right now mine are messed up, 2 genre's rock/metal/pop and rap/hiphop/r&b, and very few complete even nearly complete albums.
04.15.11 #       <midknight2k3> try all of them organized then
04.15.23 #       <midknight2k3> rock, metal, pop, rap, hip-hop, r&b
04.15.28 #       <midknight2k3> then artist
04.15.30 #       <midknight2k3> then song.mp3
04.15.31 #       <midknight2k3> tada
04.15.35 #       <midknight2k3> YAY this is funny
04.15.41 #       <midknight2k3> you can watch vids on your archos :)
04.16.16 #       <sWampy> I wish I had had the bucks to buy the color 60 gig thing with camera and tv tunner. ;-)
04.16.37 #       <midknight2k3> you dont need one to watch video clips
04.16.44 #       <midknight2k3> and it doesnt have a tv tuner
04.16.51 #       <midknight2k3> nor does it include a camera
04.16.56 #       <sWampy> I have a couple of seasons of futurama for my gba. 
04.17.11 #       <midknight2k3> you can port them to rockbox format and watch them
04.17.21 #       <sWampy> their website used to show a tuner addon.
04.17.32 #       <midknight2k3> odd. they don't make one
04.18.37 #       <sWampy> before the one with the camera addon came out they were saying it could play music/videos/take still shots/film movies/act like a tivo.
04.19.29 #       <midknight2k3> you can play music and videos, and you can take pictures and film movies. but no tv tuner (which is a TV reciever) and no TiVo
04.20.39 #       <sWampy> portable pvr would rock.
04.22.34 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
04.23.11 #       <sWampy> plug it in at night, it records your shows to watch on the way to and from work, or even better at work. ;-)
04.23.26 #       <midknight2k3> thats actually pretty neat sounding
04.24.20 #       <sWampy> the press release made it sound like it was going to be able to, well maybe next version. 
04.24.56 #       <midknight2k3> yay tastey
04.25.30 #       <sWampy> for $149 this thing is pretty amazing.
04.25.54 #       <midknight2k3> and it can do videos
04.25.56 #       <midknight2k3> in grayscale
04.26.06 #       <midknight2k3> even though its a black/white lcd HA
04.26.15 #       <midknight2k3> da daddum
04.26.16 #       <midknight2k3> dumm dum
04.26.19 #       <midknight2k3> music to video
04.28.00 #       <sWampy> is there a search plugin?  where you can search for a word in a song title?
04.29.59 #       <midknight2k3> sadly not officially
04.30.22 #       <sWampy> unofficially?
04.30.48 #       <midknight2k3> there is a patch for it i believe
04.31.42 #       <sWampy> ahh, that looks like it would be a hand feature.
04.31.58 #       <sWampy> handy even.
04.32.09 #       <midknight2k3> really even
04.32.14 #       <midknight2k3> REALLY EVEN OMG TASTY
04.32.18 #       <midknight2k3> i have issues so ignore them
04.32.23 #       <sWampy> that and play random.
04.32.44 #       <midknight2k3> shuffle is there for you
04.33.33 #       <sWampy> just shuffle random song from anywhere on the drive?  or do you have to keep a playlist with all songs listed and play it shuffled?
04.35.56 #       <midknight2k3> you can make a playlist of all the songs on the drive very easily- just do menu, playlist options, then "create playlist"
04.36.02 #       <midknight2k3> make sure you're at the root when you do
04.36.11 #       <midknight2k3> takes anywhere from 30 secs to 5 mins or so
04.36.15 #       <midknight2k3> it will show your progres
04.37.02 #       <sWampy> right I figured that out and then when you played it, with shuffle on you got any random song.  Just wondered if there was a mode where it just played random songs without making the playlist. ;-)
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04.37.18 #       <midknight2k3> hey dids
04.37.53 #       <midknight2k3> sWampy: not really, it's designed for shuffling the playlist being used or if none in use, the dir you're in
04.40.21 #       <sWampy> yeah.
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04.46.32 #       <midknight2k3> aagh
04.46.35 #       <midknight2k3> sorry back
04.49.48 #       <midknight2k3> godd
04.49.54 #       <midknight2k3> JUST MAP IT OUT ALREADY
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09.23.48 #       <midknight2k3> nite all
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13.06.11 #       <_aLF> hi
13.30.10 #       <AciD> heya
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14.25.44 #       <pagan> if i want to replace my 6GB hard drive, up to what size can the new one be?
14.35.41 #       <pagan> is there any difference, as for this matter, between the models with 6GB and those with 20?
14.35.50 #       <pagan> or between the player and the recorder?
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14.41.06 #       <sWampy> what's it mean if when you run firmware_flash.rock it says wrong plugin?  And how do i find the right one?
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17.05.57 #       <Wurst> hi
17.06.29 #       <Wurst> i have a recorder running todays rockbox daily build... i cant record via extern microphone - can anybody help?
17.07.54 #       <Wurst> ?
17.08.03 #       <_alex> what happen ? no sound ?
17.08.26 #       <Wurst> no - just the built in micro works
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17.09.32 #       <_alex> in "Source" you specify "Line In" ?
17.09.39 #       <Wurst> yes
17.10.32 #       <_alex> the recorded file is silence ?
17.11.27 #       <_alex> (recorded file are now in "/recordings" directory or in current dir)
17.12.45 #       <Wurst> its silent... i also cant hear anything while recording  (i can when recording via intern micro)
17.13.37 #       <_alex> I don't know what's wrong
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17.17.43 #       <MT> Wurst: what kind of microphone
17.17.44 #       <MT> mm
17.17.45 #       <MT> nm
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18.26.51 #       <pagan> so, can anyone tell me what's the upper limit of a drive's capacity in archaos 6000?
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18.29.29 #       <_aLF> pagan> I think that you can put a 60Go if you want
18.29.56 #       <pagan> does it depend on the hardware or firmware?
18.30.11 #       <_aLF> only hardware
18.30.43 #       <pagan> ok, thanks alot
18.30.52 #       <top_bloke> dont they have 80 Gb drives too?
18.31.50 #       <_aLF> yes
18.32.00 #       <swampy1> is there a site with a bunch of example wps files?
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21.17.22 #       <NickeT> this video player stuff, what's the benefit of that, i.e. like in JBRFM...
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21.18.04 #       <track> hiya
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21.22.44 #       <NickeT> is flashing of jbrfm "safe", is that stuff stable enough nowadays?
21.34.03 #       <_aLF> look in the mailing list
21.34.23 #       <_aLF> I flashed my FM recorder without problem
21.44.15 #       <NickeT> ... and after flashing, does all the things work properly ?
21.49.23 #       <_aLF> yes
21.49.55 #       <_aLF> even if the flashed version doesn't work, you can still run archos orginal firmware
21.49.59 #       <_aLF> without F1+On
21.50.04 #       <_aLF> with F1+On
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22.00.34 #       <track> hi
22.01.00 #       <track> zagor
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22.16.29 #       <c0utta> hi zagor
22.21.34 #       <Zagor> hi
22.23.27 #       <c0utta> i understand you don't like the use of typedefs in rockbox
22.23.46 #       <c0utta> i'm using:
22.23.48 #       <c0utta> typedef bool (*PFB)(char*);
22.42.35 #       <Zagor> i'm ok with typedefs for function pointers 
22.42.57 #       <Zagor> but call it something more descriptive than PFB
22.43.02 #       <Zagor> ;)
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22.52.03 #       <track_> hi Zagor
22.52.05 #       <track_> :_)
22.52.06 #       <track_> :)
22.52.35 #       <track_> whats new/
22.52.36 #       <track_> ?
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23.03.45 #       <track_> Zagor how do you use audio for the video playback now?>
23.07.33 #       <Zagor> i haven't tried it yet
23.08.38 #       <track_> ok no problems
23.09.03 #       <track_> I bought a TV tuner card today. Really handy to have
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23.14.29 #       <track_> hi Scott
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23.43.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Hi Zagor, you there?
23.44.43 #       <Zagor> yup
23.45.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Hardeep had a "customer" with HD problems
23.45.32 #       <[IDC]Dragon> it went away when not using the assembly code in ata.c
23.45.42 #       <Zagor> yeah, i heard
23.45.52 #       <Zagor> how bad does that impact your video player?
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23.45.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> but how can the code be "too fast"?
23.46.12 #       <[IDC]Dragon> could the bus timing be too aggressive?
23.46.32 #       <[IDC]Dragon> for some PIO mode we use
23.46.41 #       <Zagor> i don't know, really. i haven't looked into it.
23.47.11 #       <Zagor> have you looked in the ata spec? is there any mention of bus timing?
23.47.20 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Linus once fixed some problem with waitstates, for the recording code.
23.47.36 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'm no ATA expert
23.48.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> dunno which PIO mode we pretend
23.50.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'd be surprized to find something in the spec like: you can do this bus timing, but don't read too often.
23.50.36 #       <Zagor> but there has to be something like it. the ata devices are not infinitely fast.
23.50.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Sure. The bus has to have a certain timing.
23.51.19 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I suspect this timing to be too agressive.
23.51.26 #       <Zagor> very possible
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23.51.56 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I can't imagine that we're not allowed to read back to back while the bus timing is OK.
23.52.46 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Meaning, it shoudn't be possible that the software reads "too fast".
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23.56.04 #       <c0utta> guys, with the win32 sim, is there any reason why files are being created as readonly ?
23.58.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> afk
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