--- Log for 11.02.104 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 7 days and 0 hours ago 00.00.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.15.37 Join midknight2k3 [0] (~Zakk@ACC9E98B.ipt.aol.com) 00.15.43 Quit midknight2k3 (Client Quit) 00.18.30 Join midknight2k3 [0] (Zakk@ACC9E98B.ipt.aol.com) 00.20.28 Quit AciD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.24.21 # whee hi 00.27.57 # 01.05.06 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.05.21 # linus hi 01.05.25 # yay 01.05.25 # yo 01.05.28 # its linus 01.05.28 # rejoice 01.05.41 # i'm just starting on sound preset loading 01.05.50 # input? 01.06.39 # sound preset loading? 01.07.00 # like cfg loading but for sound settings 01.07.38 # why separate sound settings? 01.08.06 # because CFG loading is too multipurpose i think 01.08.25 # for example if you want a car preset and a home preset you may get contrast changed in the mix or something you don't want changed 01.08.26 # would be unnecessary duplication of code 01.08.50 # then create a .cfg file with only the sound settings in it 01.09.07 # yes, but what if you want to on the go 01.09.14 # most people wouldn't want to go home and manually do it 01.09.23 # i see your point 01.09.35 # yay 01.09.42 # so a "save sound settings as .cfg file" feature? 01.10.38 # well i was just going to copy and modify a small bit of the current CFG code, tell it to save to .rockbox/presets as filename.rsp and add a menu into sound settings 01.11.08 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 01.16.04 # sounds ok? 01.17.50 # no 01.18.36 # i don't see the point of creating a new file type 01.18.55 # why not just save a .cfg file with only the sound setting related stuff 01.18.56 # ? 01.19.22 # ohh 01.19.24 # well 01.19.51 # so they can be in /.rockbox/presets and you can browse them by menu and load them with a browsing feature? 01.20.57 # if they don't have a new extension people might confuse them with CFG files, and also they won't have their own icon so people can't identify them easier 01.22.22 # the whole idea of .cfg files is to be able to do exactly this 01.22.38 # exactly what? 01.22.51 # it's just that we also added an option to save the entire config as a .cfg file, for lazy people 01.22.55 # for sound settings 01.23.39 # .cfg files were invented to have files with different sound settings 01.23.51 # and lots of people use them for that 01.24.45 # it's just that they either create them by hand, or save the .cfg file with rockbox and later on remove the unneeded settings 01.25.12 # yes, but the fact that they are indistinguishable from other CFG files is rather confusing (they'd have to use the same extension and icon)? 01.25.24 # what other .cfg files? 01.26.06 # most people would probably like a "home", "travel" and a "car" file, for example 01.26.54 # those files would probably contain mostly sound settings, but also backlight, spindown and a few other things 01.27.14 # having only sound settings would cripple the function imho 01.27.47 # hrm 01.27.49 # well 01.28.33 # in that case you'd use CFG files. but if you're at home you may want it all the same, just with modified sound settings. so that you can have a "party" preset and a "rock" preset and a "clear" preset etc 01.30.25 # don't get me wrong, cfg files will still exist! presets would just exist to modify only the sound settings without connecting to a PC 01.30.55 # so why not only do a "save sound settings as .cfg file" option? 01.31.29 # well, it'd be relatively simpyl to just remake a small portion of the code so we can have a different extension+icon+ save dir 01.31.36 # simple* 01.31.43 # yes, but why? 01.31.56 # so we don't get them confused with "real" cfg files 01.32.19 # i'd say that it would be confusing for the user to have the same functionality with two file types 01.32.42 # i dont see why the presets can't be "real" .cfg files 01.33.25 # perhaps you don't get what i mean by "Real" cfg files. By "real" i mean loading other settings as well 01.34.03 # but a .cfg file doesn't have to load other settings, it only loads the settings that are present in the file 01.34.49 # right. but like i was saying, it may also be handy to have that different extension and icon for simpler loading 01.35.03 # simpler, how? 01.35.20 # pressing Play is equally simple regardless of the file type 01.35.42 # so you can say, oh, party.rsp is my sound settings, and party.cfg is my settings (shuffle, repeat all, backlight on, etc) 01.36.12 # so, for a party, you'd have to load two files? 01.36.21 # oh wait i just noticed that flaw :D 01.36.38 # well in that case you could just have one CFG file 01.36.48 # and why not just "party settings.cfg" and "party sound.cfg"? 01.36.56 # there you are 01.37.12 # because party sound.cfg would need to be edited by a computer 01.37.17 # oh 01.37.17 # wait 01.37.19 # yeah 01.37.23 # i see your point 01.37.36 # not if you create a "save sound settings as .cfg" 01.38.01 # yeah 01.38.04 # but 01.38.44 # hmm 01.39.11 # AHA 01.39.14 # oh wait 01.39.19 # nm 01.42.09 # ok 01.42.15 # well on another note 01.42.23 # are we getting superbass soon? 01.42.26 # well, mdb i mean 01.42.41 # you mean mdb fine tuning? 01.43.23 # yeah 01.43.44 # the sound it lets you have is wonderful but its not been officially implemented sadly 01.44.42 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.44.55 # yeah, i should get to work on that one of these days... 01.45.41 # hrm 01.49.21 # well 01.49.24 # heres the deal 01.49.39 # i'll sketch up an icon for .rsp and if it comes out good we keep the extension :D 01.49.59 # * LinusN sighs 01.50.07 # OH WAIT 01.50.08 # I GOT IT 01.50.14 # of course 01.50.19 # why didnt i see 01.50.32 # we just save it with a different extension, we don't need to duplicate the code 01.50.39 # * midknight2k3 does dilbert victory dance 01.52.19 # but i still don't get it. why a different extension? 01.53.51 # so they are easily distinguishable from CFG files, right? if you think about it it'd be a lot easier to manage instead of mixing up CFG files... but yours is the final word. maybe sound as cfg would be good too 01.54.37 # i don't call it "mixing up". the .cfg files were invented for exactly this purpose 01.55.32 # not exactly mixing up, but having the two together could confuse people 01.56.17 # "the two" 01.56.31 # a .cfg file can contain anything 01.56.36 # thats it 01.56.37 # but! 01.56.43 # the user decides what to put in them 01.56.46 # you cant tell that anything from looking at .cfg can you? 01.57.00 # .cfg says "ok im a cfg file, do i have sound settings inside or all settings?" 01.57.11 # no, but if you use a sensible file naming scheme you will be able to tell the difference 01.57.31 # or if you put them in different directories 01.57.49 # i don't get your logic! :) but ok, i'll just use CFG files 01.58.04 # but i'm allowed to put the option in "sound settings" right? 01.58.33 # the logic is that .cfg files are meant to contain settings, and it is up to the user to decide which settings to put in them 01.58.57 # like .bat files can contain any DOS command 01.59.25 # and the other logic is that no matter what you name them, seperate extensions will always tell you whether you have sound or global settings 01.59.49 # but will you create new file types for recording settings too? 01.59.59 # or playlist settings? 02.00.03 # or...? 02.00.09 # no 02.00.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.00.13 # they all go under "settings" 02.00.25 # but those affect the core settings, not the actual sound 02.01.03 # like, we could label the sound settings as "equalizer" and argue all over again 02.01.09 # but that doesnt change their purpose 02.01.18 # my point is that i don't see the need for separate file types for sound settings 02.01.47 # but i can see the use for a "save sound settings" option 02.02.04 # it reduces the need to induce clever file naming schemes using a nifty on screen keyboard 02.04.10 # i just don't see a particular downside 02.04.15 # i'd say that it adds confusion for the user 02.04.34 # two file types for nearly the same thing 02.04.37 # sound settings files and cfg files? i'd say that wps files are a lot more confusing 02.04.48 # especially when .cfg files contain sound settings too 02.05.03 # we should delete that functionality 02.05.08 # and port that to sound files 02.05.09 # presets 02.05.09 # absolutely not 02.05.10 # whatever 02.05.19 # ok, well one thing 02.05.25 # then the user would have to play two files for a complete setup 02.05.53 # wouldnt it be just as confusing, if not more, to use the SAME file extension for similar things as opposed to a different one? the key word here is similar... it's not same 02.06.21 # .cfg files contain settings. period. 02.06.31 # yes 02.06.39 # and .rsp files contain sound settings. period 02.06.51 # sound settings are settings too 02.07.00 # yes 02.07.06 # but they are different kind of settings 02.07.24 # i don't agree 02.07.49 # i don't GET YOU 02.08.34 # take "fade" as an example, is that a asound setting or just a setting? 02.08.48 # sound setting, i'd say 02.09.11 # why? 02.09.42 # because it affects the way you hear the music. if you pause, it decides whether you want to fade it or just halt it, that affects sound, i'd say it's a sound setting 02.10.09 # i can imagine that some people may disagree 02.10.27 # how so? 02.11.15 # because is is a function related to the starting and stopping of music, and not entirely the sound experience 02.11.30 # yes 02.11.44 # but if it makes a difference in hearing the music it's a "sound setting" 02.11.45 # for example 02.11.49 # backlight doesnt affect the sound 02.11.52 # general setting 02.11.57 # nor does "inverted line cursor" 02.12.01 # nor "shuffle" 02.12.04 # all general settings 02.12.10 # but fade, that affects what you hear 02.12.13 # "sound setting" 02.13.09 # i can agree with you, i was just trying to make a point that it serves little purpose to separate sound settings from the other 02.13.34 # uhr 02.13.54 # that doesn't really change anything lol 02.14.50 # let me put it like this: which problem do you want to solve with this? 02.15.04 # i want to make it simpler to load sound settings 02.15.16 # you want a way to save and reload only the sound settings, right? 02.15.27 # right 02.15.56 # but saving them to a .cfg file doesn't solve this problem? 02.16.15 # it could 02.16.19 # but not the way i envision it 02.17.41 # i think of the .cfg files as an all-purpose solution, that can contain not only sound settings, but also other ones 02.17.47 # handy, if you ask me 02.18.11 # yes 02.18.12 # me too 02.18.16 # BUT also sound presets 02.18.23 # that carry just sound settings 02.18.27 # but in a different extension 02.18.54 # that'd be pretty un-confusing. it'd have its own icon and extension, be in its own "PRESETS" folder, and accessible through the menu 02.19.22 Join BumpyC [0] (~joe@82-38-1-205.cable.ubr01.barn.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.19.27 # and why not .rockbox/presets/*.cfg ? 02.19.30 # hey 02.19.32 # yo 02.19.40 # hi BumpyC 02.20.01 # LinusN: becuase it's possible to mix them with CFG files which could be confusing 02.20.09 # I must say, I agree with LinusN on this issue (I was reading the log) 02.20.14 # if they had their own icon and place, i think it'd be pretty straightforward 02.20.21 # you could of course move them elsewhere 02.20.32 # BumpyC: is that Bluechip? :) 02.21.04 # midknight2k3: no, I am Joseph Jones from the mailing list 02.21.14 # oh 02.21.37 # think of it like .reg files 02.21.51 # ok linus 02.22.07 # ...are you taking that point further? 02.22.18 # nah 02.22.26 # ok lol 02.22.31 # i think linus is spot on 02.22.33 # well i can see your point too 02.22.42 # ok i lose 02.22.43 # they are both config files 02.23.00 # not the SAME configging going on 02.23.02 # i see where m2k is coming from 02.23.19 # so should we have a .resume for resume settings too? 02.23.32 # we have that, no? 02.23.41 # .playlist_control, actually 02.24.05 # thats different, you dont play dot files 02.24.29 # some day, someone will want to add non-sound options to the soundsettings files 02.24.37 # for convenience 02.24.38 # forget i said it ok 02.24.40 # cfg it is 02.24.43 # :-) 02.25.00 # * LinusN was saved by the cavalry 02.26.16 # luckily 02.26.23 # i almost had my way too :) 02.33.52 # I'm off to bed, night folks 02.33.57 # nite 02.34.30 # nite 02.34.43 Quit BumpyC ("Kopete IRC [http://kopete.kde.org]") 02.35.14 # gotta sleep too, nite all 02.35.33 Part LinusN 02.35.51 # df 02.35.52 # grr 02.47.40 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Montreal-ppp136724.qc.sympatico.ca) 02.52.20 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk|bbs (Zakk@ACC9E98B.ipt.aol.com) 03.47.07 Nick midk|bbs is now known as midknight2k4 (Zakk@ACC9E98B.ipt.aol.com) 03.47.10 Nick midknight2k4 is now known as midknight2k3 (Zakk@ACC9E98B.ipt.aol.com) 03.55.19 Quit wake ("leaving") 03.55.25 # HA 03.55.28 # that teaches him 04.00.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.31.09 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.57.34 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: to the rescue!") 05.12.11 # ANYONE here with Cygwin? 05.13.01 Quit midknight2k3 ("Bye ppl, sudden death remember? :D") 05.20.11 Join NateDog [0] (ElPerro@24-56-195-187.mdmmi.voyager.net) 05.21.28 # is there a place where I can get version 2.0? 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Thank you all in advance. 05.42.43 Quit UncleSqua (Client Quit) 05.55.35 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 06.00.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.30.23 Join midknight2k3 [0] (Zakk@ACA6513D.ipt.aol.com) 06.30.23 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.31.40 Quit midknight2k3 (Client Quit) 06.49.04 Quit MT ("changing servers") 06.52.22 Join MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 07.39.48 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 07.46.44 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp91.contactor.se) 07.52.04 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 08.00.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.01.16 Quit NateDog () 08.02.10 Quit AciD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.10.37 Quit c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.14.33 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 08.16.26 Join oxygen77 [0] (~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net) 08.36.38 Join moormaster [0] (moormaster@port-212-202-175-118.reverse.qsc.de) 08.49.34 Quit saskatoon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.49.58 Join saskatoon [0] (~saskatoon@dialin-212-144-019-173.arcor-ip.net) 09.35.47 # hi 09.36.17 # does anybody know which video codecs are supported by the avitoyuv - tool? 09.36.47 # I have tried to convert a video to .rvf but there is only random flicker instead of a video on the archos player 09.37.28 # Probably no codec is supported. You probably need uncompressed AVI. 09.39.04 # But then there would be very big video files if you try to convert a whole film. Wouldnt it be better to release a codec for .rvf? Maybe video-edit tools convert the videos a bit faster than the console-tools 09.41.12 # You make the videos the proper resolution? 09.41.20 # 112x64 yes 09.41.29 # Well, test with a small clip 09.41.44 # (I haven't tried encoding myself, I am only presuming the codec stuff) 09.42.26 # thats what i am doing now ;) I just meant that it is unpractical to work with uncompressed files when they are whole movies and not only 10 seconds 09.43.02 # True... 09.43.17 # are there other things that must match? (fps or sth?) 09.43.28 # erhm. read that document that came with the tools... 09.43.35 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 09.44.12 # i can not find any documentation. There were only the tools in the zip file? 09.44.31 # is there anywhere a detailled documentation about converting avi to rvf? 09.46.47 # hm 09.47.08 # there was some basic info in the mailing list 09.47.15 # my bad. 09.47.17 # I'll check. 09.48.12 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-02/ 09.48.24 # The audio/video player threads 09.49.43 # k thx 09.54.50 # Tell me if you're successful. 09.54.56 # k 09.59.25 # i have tried with uncompressed video and it gives stripes. The rvf video with audio plays normal audio with snow on the screen 10.00.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.01.04 # hmm 10.01.10 # do you know any video players which can play yuv-files? 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I would like to use the usb cable as power supply while i am hearing music with the archos 22.19.41 # unix or windooze? 22.20.01 # windows, but does this matter 22.20.24 # oh i thought of something other... i don't think so 22.20.25 # ? 22.20.49 # lol deutsch? 22.20.53 # yes 22.20.56 # why? 22.20.59 # me 2 22.21.03 # gut ;) 22.21.27 # benutz doch einfach das netzkabel zur stromversorgung 22.21.43 # w�re doch praktisch, wenn ich das USB Kabel als Spannungsversorgung nehme und die Jukebox weiter normal benutzen kann, ohne dass sie sofort in den USB 2.0 Festplattenmodus wechselt 22.21.54 # geht net 22.21.57 # wart mal 22.21.57 # dann muss ich den Netzadapter nichgt immer mitschleppen 22.23.28 # stand irgendwo auf der hp dass die das net machen weil du ja wenn die angeschlossen is dateien �ndern kannst und wenn du dann gleichzeitig auffer festplatte von der jukebox mitm display rumguckst kriegt der probs oder so 22.24.24 # naja h�tte ja sein k�nnen, dass die Firmware erst selber in den Festplattenmodus umschaltet. Aber scheinbar zeigt sie nur an, dass eine USB Verbindung besteht und sperrt sich solange selbst 22.25.12 # jo 22.25.33 # wobei es auch schon vorkam, dass ich die Jukebox komplett resetten musste, bevor sie Windows wieder erkannt hat. Vorher hat es nur behauptet, dass sich ein unidentifizierbares Ger�t am USB Anschluss befindet 22.25.58 Part oxygen77 ("Leaving") 22.25.58 # jo war bei nem freund von mir auch so als ich die treiber installiert hab, hast du winxp? 22.26.23 # jo 22.27.10 # ich glaub das liegt an winxp der sagt ja auch so was von wegen treibersignatur fehlt und all so n zeugs 22.28.02 # naja aber meistens gehts ja auch. Und wenns nach Windows geht sind ja immer nur die Treiber signiert, die sowieso schon mitinstalliert sind. 22.28.35 # manche andern auch z.b. detonator aber stimmt schon 22.30.21 # Wenn das jedoch eine Art Bug der Firmware w�re, k�nnte man das doch beabsichtigt hervorrufen, um die Benutzung als externe Festplatte zu unterbinden, damit man ungehindert die Jukebox nutzen kann. Und wenn man wieder in den USB Modus wechselt, ist alles wieder normal. 22.30.21 # Aber wenn dieses Problem eh nur unter Windows auftritt, n�tzt das ja auch nix 22.31.07 # actually track, it's just plain C 22.31.27 # ah c's all the same ;) 22.31.39 # jo sogar nur unter winxp 22.31.46 # axo 22.31.50 # also bei mir unter win2k l�uft's prima 22.32.07 # i think you could use c++, but the core developers decided on c 22.32.41 # hatte das Problem auch nur, als ich die Platte �fters reinstecken und wieder rausziehen musste, dass er es dann pl�tzlich nicht mehr wollte. Hatte versucht ein VIdeo in rvf zu konvertieren 22.33.05 Nick c0utta is now known as c0utta{afk} (HydraIRC@dialup-167.96.220.203.acc01-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 22.34.32 # da w�re es zum Beipsiel auch praktisch gewesen, wenn man h�tte einfach die Firmware umschalten k�nnen, anstatt immer das Kabel zu ziehen 22.34.35 # jo bei mir h�ngt der auch manchma wenn ich gr��ere sachen draufziehn will 22.37.21 # is das eigentlich normal, dass der mehrere Tage rechnet, wenn ich ein DivX-Video in YUV umwandeln lasse? 22.39.11 # wenn du's net von pc-festplatte auf pc-festplatte machst, ja 22.39.36 # wenn du zum beispiel das original auf netzwerk-pc oder mp3-player hast 22.39.49 # ne war alles auf der lokalen Platte 22.40.08 Quit track ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 22.40.17 # und das Konsolen tool h�lt es ja auch nichtmal f�r n�tig, anzuzeigen, wieviel % es schon umgerechnet hat 22.40.28 # ^^ 22.40.36 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.40.43 # benutz adobe premiere 22.40.47 # is das beste 22.40.52 # guys, please stick to english in this channel 22.40.53 # kann der in yuv umwandeln? 22.41.21 # if you have the codec installed (better this way?) 22.41.41 # ja, das ist besser :-) 22.41.54 # ^^ 22.42.02 # Hvad med dansk eller svensk?-) 22.42.12 # than i could use Virtual Dub, too 22.42.12 # It should recognize the codec if it is installed 22.42.12 # rofl 22.42.16 # pfavr: in sweden yet? 22.42.40 # that should work 22.42.44 # Yes, Ostermalm, Stockholm 22.42.53 # nice, we should meet 22.42.54 # where can I download the yuv-codec? 22.43.01 # getaway in stockholm ;) 22.43.12 # no ahnung 22.43.17 # Really like to meet the RockBox hackers 22.43.18 # ;) 22.43.31 # time for a Rockbox DevCon then 22.43.36 # than I should try to google for it ;) 22.43.44 # or then 22.43.54 # or http://www.g00gl3.de 22.43.57 # How about next week? or this weekend? 22.44.17 # lol 22.44.18 # next week sounds good to me, let's keep in touch 22.44.20 # gotta go 22.44.22 Part LinusN 22.44.23 # anyone here who understands the rockbox developement tutorial? 22.45.00 # Haven't read it, but I managed to make a development environment at my other computer.... 22.45.07 # me too 22.45.07 # And check the stuff out from CVS 22.45.11 # but without cvs 22.45.32 # yeah i don't understand that part 22.45.40 # http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html 22.45.43 # point 8 22.47.42 # mmh I have downloaded some cvs clients (even one for windows) but i don't know how to use them 22.48.03 # i don't even know what i have to do now 22.48.34 # I use linux 22.48.48 # I bet under linux it is not easier ;) 22.48.51 # So I can't help you there... 22.48.59 # (for me it is:-) 22.49.20 # maybe you have to download cvs first somewhere 22.49.48 # i have the sourcecode so i think i don't need cvs 22.50.01 # Download and unpack RockBox sourcecode to /home/rockbox OR check out via CVS 22.50.22 # so you dont want to use cvs? 22.50.22 # Yes, cvs is only needed for getting the sourcecode from cvs 22.50.52 # k 22.50.59 # Have you got the bash-console working? 22.51.01 # i think i'm getting it on now 22.51.58 # Hey, I do know Cygwin... but normally I get it from redhat.com 22.52.09 Quit AciD (Connection timed out) 22.52.13 # but wtf do i need cygwin for? 22.52.18 # Cygwin contains a lot of tools... cvs amongst others 22.52.18 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Get hot chicks here!") 22.52.23 # for compiling it 22.52.27 # ah 22.52.28 # k 22.52.54 # I think the rockbox-sdk_win32.tar.bz2 contains cygwin also 22.53.03 # yup 22.53.09 # btw why is it still possible to mute the sound while the keylock is on? 22.53.22 # it is a faster way of getting both cygwin and the binutils for the rockbox (a cross compiler - GCC) 22.53.24 # I reportet it some time ago as bug 22.53.56 # I hope you get the develoment environment going:-) 22.54.09 # i think for the ones who turn the vol to max and then play and immediately lock the keys, so that they don't destroy their eirs ^^ 22.54.19 # ears i mean ^^ 22.55.15 # yes but it could at leat be included in the options weather mute should be possibel while keylock or not 22.55.57 # possibel -> possible ;) 22.56.29 # maybe they just want to �rger you ^^ 22.56.50 # wtf? 22.56.54 # not just me. There are many posts which just havent been answered 22.57.00 # wtf? 22.57.00 # ^^ 22.57.02 # ../tools/configure 22.57.04 # whats wtf? 22.57.11 # Create build dir and configure build: 22.57.11 # user@host ~ 22.57.11 # $ mkdir build-dir 22.57.11 DBUG Enqueued KICK T^JulioVega 22.57.11 # user@host ~ 22.57.11 # $ cd build-dir 22.57.11 *** Alert Mode level 1 22.57.11 # user@host ~/build-dir 22.57.13 # ../tools/configure 22.57.17 # this is in the tutorial 22.57.29 # but there is no configure.bat or so in my folder 22.57.42 # no but configure without extension 22.57.46 # so how can i run something that isn't there 22.57.52 # you go to the place where you want the makefiles 22.57.52 # no 22.58.00 # it should be there after the source is there 22.58.02 # (this is build dir - the newly created directory) 22.58.04 # and then 22.58.09 # E:\Rockbox Developement\tools>dir 22.58.09 # Datentr�ger in Laufwerk E: ist TOOLS 22.58.09 # Datentr�gernummer: 1053-15E6 22.58.09 *** Alert Mode level 2 22.58.09 # Verzeichnis von E:\Rockbox Developement\tools 22.58.09 *** Alert Mode level 3 22.58.09 # 11.02.2004 22:49 . 22.58.11 # 11.02.2004 22:49 .. 22.58.13 # 04.01.2003 02:12 38.341 bmp2rb.exe 22.58.15 #