--- Log for 09.03.104 Server: truong.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 25 days and 19 hours ago 00.13.37 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.15.48 Join Namo [0] (~namo@h000625730c42.ne.client2.attbi.com) 00.15.59 # jjj 00.16.03 Part Namo 00.16.08 Join Namo [0] (~namo@h000625730c42.ne.client2.attbi.com) 00.16.12 Part Namo 00.30.20 Part amiconn|away 00.31.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.41.29 Quit mattzz|away ("Client exiting") 00.48.01 Join diddystar5 [0] (lee@IC62.library.oregonstate.edu) 01.16.47 Join GDE-DeadMeat [0] (Gatekeeper@c-24-12-232-226.client.comcast.net) 01.16.58 # good evening everyone 01.17.12 # I just received my archos and tossed on rockbox 01.19.57 # cool :) 01.20.05 # what unit do you have? 01.21.03 # the 5000 01.21.14 # it's being a pain though... isn't booting correctly... etc. 01.21.59 # it's not the rockbox firmware though... because it wasn't working with the archos software either. 01.22.02 # but oh well 01.22.12 # ohh boy the 5000's...... 01.22.29 # what was wrong with booting? 01.24.12 # it begins to boot. Shows Jukebox 5.08 01.24.17 # and then hangs on that. 01.24.27 # are the 5000's a POS? 01.24.35 # can they be formatted? 01.25.02 Quit mecraw__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.25.21 # yes, but what you should do if your having problems with the booting is flash rockbox 01.25.38 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html 01.25.54 # it may seem scary to do it, but it should go fine 01.26.33 # meh... I'm not worried 01.26.39 # I only paid 60 bucks for it... 01.26.54 # ohh 01.26.56 # then again... it didn't come w/ a power adapter, usb cable, or anything else. 01.27.05 # the guy advertised as new but not in box... 01.27.07 # go figure 01.27.36 # humm.... i guess you cant flash the player 01.27.39 # i thought you could 01.27.45 # naw... I've got a cable now 01.27.56 # I bought a player for myself and one of my friends bought one 01.27.59 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.27.59 # I'm using her cable. 01.28.11 # ohh 01.28.19 # what did you friend get a 5000? 01.28.26 # hi scotty 01.29.46 # no, my friend picked up a 6000 01.30.00 # came w/ everything but the power adapter... but she lives in england... so no biggy there. 01.30.09 # I'm going to go out and pick one up if I can. 01.30.18 # 9v at 600mA, right? 01.31.40 # yeah 01.31.43 # bah... there's no flash for the 5000 01.31.47 # make sure the polarity is right 01.32.30 # i wish people would stop seeling the old players 01.32.41 # *selling 01.33.10 # I'm in college... so I have to be thrifty. From everything i have read... this player is easy to mod. 01.33.43 # ohh 01.33.47 # so... cheap and easy to mod = decent deal. 01.33.58 # but... if it isn't working... heh 01.34.19 # what do you mean by it hangs exactly though? it just wont boot sometimes? 01.35.09 # just sec... I'll tell you exaclty 01.36.10 # starts to boot. I see Jukebox 01.36.17 # ver : 5.08 01.36.19 # and that's it 01.37.41 # wierd 01.38.00 # you may try to reformat, just make sure you do it as fat32 01.39.24 # I'll do that now. 01.39.46 # since I don't have a power adapter... do you think that USB power should be sufficient? 01.40.40 # no 01.40.52 # the players draw no power off usb 01.40.58 # ok 01.42.18 # ok... be back in a few. I'm going to go see if radio shack has a 9volt conditioned act adapter. 01.42.51 Quit scott666 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.43.10 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.43.43 # between gentoo and rockbox... I have a headache 01.43.44 # :-) 01.44.10 # you use gentoo? 01.45.09 # yeah 01.45.13 # neat 01.45.18 # you aren't a gentoo hater are ya? 01.45.22 # no 01.45.24 # good. 01.45.35 # i have gentoo but i haven't had time to install it yet 01.45.36 # I was away from the linux seen for a long time... 01.45.41 # it's sweet 01.46.02 # so long as you have something to do while loading it 01.46.03 # i used redhat before windows crashed and delted all my partitions.... 01.46.17 # while loading it? 01.46.23 # sorry 01.46.26 # let me rephrase 01.46.30 # lol 01.46.44 # gentoo takes a fuckload of time to compile... especially if you are starting from stage 1. 01.46.52 # heh 01.46.58 # get a good book (read war and peace) and that will get you through bootstrapping. 01.47.08 # a snickers will get you past compiling the system. 01.47.12 # i started to install ast week and then i saw you had to compile and i quit right there 01.47.19 # *last 01.47.46 # i was thinking about starting at stage 2 or 3 01.47.51 # but... OMG... if you use KDE or Gnome... go have some kids, raise'em, have grandkids... die... reincarnate... and then maybe the rest will be done 01.47.54 # start at stage 2. 01.47.55 # whay do you think i should do? 01.47.58 # tis easy 01.48.07 # lol i want gnome 01.48.09 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.48.18 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.48.22 # OMG... now... I'm a Gnome hater... so don't take it personal. 01.48.23 # :-P 01.48.29 # what do you use? 01.48.35 # depends on my mood 01.48.43 # sometimes KDE if I want to waste system resources. 01.48.57 # I'm thinking about something else I saw recently: 01.49.18 # XFce 01.49.21 # looks kool 01.49.23 # i hate that one 01.49.27 # its so annoying 01.49.30 Join track [0] (74d57721@ACBD6706.ipt.aol.com) 01.49.32 # like a cross between a windows and mac gui 01.49.34 Part track 01.49.34 # really? 01.49.41 # you have to right click to start programs and stuff 01.49.46 # I want something nice, but lightweight 01.49.54 # its very lightweight 01.49.59 # it looks cool 01.49.59 # xfce is horrid, imho 01.50.04 # but i think its annoting 01.50.14 # and not that light-weight either, imho 01.50.25 # I have been using litestep on my windoze boxes. 01.50.36 # is there anything you could recommend? 01.50.37 # litestep? 01.50.50 # I want something that looks nice... but works well on minimal resources. 01.51.02 # but what the poop are you talking about, mixing desktop environments and window managers and whatnot 01.51.17 # you've never seen litestep? 01.51.28 # i dont really know, the only mangers i ve used are KDE, gnome, Xfce, and fluxbox 01.51.38 # no, whats litestep? 01.51.47 # it's a shell replacement for windows 01.51.55 # ohh sounds neat 01.52.09 # runs off of 6-8 meg of ram vs 16-28 that explorer uses. 01.52.10 # neighther KDE nor gnome is a window manager - KDE contains it's own window manager hack though, and gnome uses metacity by default 01.52.12 # and is more stable. 01.53.03 # right now I'm looking for something else. KDE irritates the hell out of me... I hate windows because IE is integrated... KDE should be no different. 01.53.07 # GDE-DeadMeat: what do you want from the thingmajik you were considering using xfce for? 01.53.09 # I hate Konqueror. 01.53.37 # Honestly... it just looked neat. 01.53.45 # Konqueror, yes that thing is annoying, that one reason i like gnome 01.53.57 # it dosent use a funky file manager 01.54.12 # heh, gnome does use a funky file manager :) 01.55.15 # anyway - what I mean is that what do you really want from a desktop environment? what parts do you use out of it? 01.56.39 Quit scott666 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.57.00 # easy of use. Isn't that a compound answer wrapped up in a neat little package. 01.57.19 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.57.34 # well, yes, but that doesn't really tell what use is 01.57.50 # actually... what I would really like is that system tray thing that macs have. I dunno what it's called... but when you hover of it w/ the mouse it enlarges and scrolls back and forth. 01.58.02 # know what I'm talking about ( mac nub in the room) 01.58.07 # yeah 01.58.19 # there's a program launcher that behaves similarily 01.58.25 # dude... if I could find a sytem tray like that... I'd be happy as hell. 01.58.42 # but is that all you need? just a program launcher and that's it? 01.58.50 # pretty much. 01.58.56 # I configure everything by hand. 01.59.08 # a resource monitor would be nice too. 01.59.23 # I know I can get all of these things separately... but I'm a lazy bastard. 01.59.23 # well then you only need to pick a window manager, not an entire desktop environment like gnome or kde - and then run separate applications 02.00.00 # I switched from windows about 2 weeks ago because windows crashed on me while I was writing my thesis. 02.00.39 # brb im going to linux 02.00.44 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 02.01.39 # I'm going to go get a power supply for my archos 02.01.55 Quit scott666 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.02.10 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.06.02 # found it 02.06.03 # http://ktown.kde.cl/kooldock/shots.php 02.06.23 Join diddystar5 [0] (~lee@IC62.library.oregonstate.edu) 02.07.39 # hello 02.07.56 Quit scott666 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.10.11 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.16.52 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-10.216-194-23-199.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 02.20.20 # crap i jsut crashed mozilla 02.21.13 # arghh and no other prog will start 02.22.24 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 02.26.06 # brb going to restart cant get anything to work no 02.26.09 # w 02.26.29 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 02.29.30 Join diddystar5 [0] (~lee@IC62.library.oregonstate.edu) 02.31.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.32.22 # back 02.32.42 # 9v conditioned PS rated for up to 8mA (regulated) 02.32.47 # 800mA 02.33.45 # so what's the speil on polarity? 02.36.23 # i cant remember what was right 02.36.35 # hrm... 02.36.47 # how much damage you think I could do by using the wrong polarity for a moment? 02.37.01 # I'm thinking lots... but I tend to be pesemistic 02.38.34 # damn it... leave it to gnome sources to be corrupt. 02.40.03 # i have done it before 02.40.08 # it started smoking 02.40.14 # but there was no damage done 02.42.03 # it started smoking but there was no damage done? 02.44.04 Join midknight2k3 [0] (ZakkRobert@c-24-18-39-169.client.comcast.net) 02.45.50 # sweet... 02.45.53 # I know what the problem was. 02.45.56 # lack of power 02.46.34 # midknight2k3 02.48.57 # got the polarity right... first try 02.48.59 # w00t 02.49.11 # goody! 02.52.09 # w0000h00000 02.52.13 # rockbox works as well 02.52.35 # I'm happier than a 16yr old in a french whore house 02.52.42 # LOL 02.52.53 # now... what mp3's to pick 02.53.02 # pink floyd :) 02.53.05 # ah ha... all of Iron Maiden and Back 02.53.08 # bach 02.53.21 # w/ a little bit of britney spears 02.53.27 # NO! 02.53.27 # (just kidding bout the britney) 02.53.32 # good! 02.53.36 # lol 02.53.53 # I wouldn't fill my player w/ that sort of rubbish 02.54.08 # brb 02.54.15 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 02.56.21 Join diddystar5 [0] (lee@IC62.library.oregonstate.edu) 02.56.33 # WB 02.57.07 # TY 02.57.28 # me is stk in abrv hell atm 02.58.28 # LOL 02.59.20 # lol 02.59.38 # ugh... now I get to read the 60 page guide to rockbox... 02.59.57 # dont worry about that 03.00.01 # its a waste of time 03.00.11 # just play with it 03.00.14 # I guess that is ok considering the fact that it's going to take the next 100 years to push all this stuff to my player 03.00.26 # it wont take long to learn all about RB 03.00.38 # yeah usb 1.1 sucks 03.00.39 # I'm wondering if it would be better to just pull the drive and stick it in my box for the fill 03.00.58 # i would have done that if i had a 2.5 > 3.5 converter 03.01.10 # it took hours for me to transfer all my stuff 03.01.18 # I just picked up one. 03.01.19 # :-) 03.01.25 # nice 03.01.26 # work won't miss it. 03.01.28 # i would do it 03.02.00 # it's just annoying to take appart. 03.02.06 # then again... I might as well, right? 03.02.21 # now I just need to find a good linux CD ripper 03.02.54 # easy, just take the four screws holding the front thingy on, and take the four holding the drive in out, pull off 2 rubber bumpers, pull the unit out, and po the hd out :) 03.03.07 # realyy easy when you see it 03.03.52 # I've done it once already 03.04.05 # ohh 03.04.07 # took it apart before even thinking about finding a power converter to power it up 03.04.12 # that's just the kinda guy I am 03.04.13 # :-) 03.05.12 # lol 03.05.23 # what do you think, abcde or grip to rip and encode CD's? 03.05.55 # i dont know i know lots of people that use grip 03.06.07 # *i mena ido know lots of poepl that use it 03.09.35 # yeah... that's what I was thinking about... but I need something that I can set to read first session only. 03.09.42 # Damn EMI copy protection. 03.09.50 # heh 03.10.09 # i think the nice program EAC workin under wine in linux 03.10.13 # *works 03.11.02 # i need to go home soon 03.13.06 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Kitchener-ppp320804.sympatico.ca) 03.14.23 # hi wake 03.14.41 # you at school or work? 03.16.39 # did you say that you think EAC works under wine? 03.18.06 # im at a library 03.18.14 # ah 03.18.14 # yes i think eac works in wine 03.18.18 # sweet 03.18.22 # I'll try it out then 03.18.31 # you will proably need to get lame for windows also for it to wrok 03.18.33 # gotta find someone to do a first-session-only read 03.18.33 # *work 03.18.54 # I guess I could always throw VMware on here 03.19.11 # ohh yeah 03.19.17 # well time to go see ya 03.19.25 # bye 03.19.34 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 04.03.10 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.09.32 Quit wake ("leaving") 04.31.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.31.12 Quit GDE-DeadMeat ("Client exited") 05.47.51 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 05.53.21 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Kingston-ppp193462.sympatico.ca) 06.03.07 # WAKE up! 06.09.47 # bye ppl 06.09.53 Quit midknight2k3 ("Going... BYE!") 06.13.06 Join midknight2k3 [0] (ZakkRobert@c-24-18-39-169.client.comcast.net) 06.13.14 Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.22.36 Join phreaky [0] (~someone@stnat8s.esper.com) 06.31.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.34.21 Quit phreaky () 06.40.02 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB8F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.25.00 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.32.35 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.32.37 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 07.32.51 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 07.57.26 Join Bagder_ [241] (~dast@labb.contactor.se) 07.57.44 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (~dast@labb.contactor.se) 08.15.12 Quit wake ("rebooting") 08.31.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.50.39 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp102.contactor.se) 08.59.12 Quit c0utta{work} (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.59.34 Join c0utta{work} [0] (HydraIRC@dialup-177.52.221.203.acc04-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 08.59.54 Nick c0utta{work} is now known as c0utta (HydraIRC@dialup-177.52.221.203.acc04-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 08.59.55 Nick c0utta is now known as c0utta{work} (HydraIRC@dialup-177.52.221.203.acc04-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 09.00.59 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 09.01.26 Nick c0utta{work} is now known as c0utta (HydraIRC@dialup-177.52.221.203.acc04-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 09.21.10 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.23.40 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 09.29.26 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.35.29 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.44.38 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 09.45.36 Quit AciD` (Client Quit) 09.50.08 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 09.53.42 Quit AciD` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.54.27 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 10.14.21 # linus, did you look at my callback work ? 10.31.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.33.29 # haven't had time yet, sorry 10.42.46 Quit AciD` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.47.06 # no problem - wait until after 2.2 10.50.17 # looking at it now, looks good 10.50.39 # one thing though, i think the callback should call menu_draw() if it has changed the menu 10.50.57 # else we get many unnecessary redraws if it hasn't changed 10.52.25 # menu_draw is a static function so we would have to expose it 10.52.43 # it doesn't matter, export it then 10.54.09 # can you see anything else that needs to be changed ? 10.54.26 # i decided to not pass cursor in the callback 10.55.03 # i think exporting the property functions works just as well 10.55.25 # i think we are getting somewhere here 10.57.27 # brb 11.05.57 # b 11.06.09 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 11.07.49 # no more changes linus ? can i submit again (for the last time) ? 11.08.41 # think so :-) 11.08.47 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.17.33 Nick LinusN|lunch is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.17.39 # nah, i'll eat later 11.17.46 # hehe 11.19.16 # Jens' ATA tests are indeed interesting 11.19.45 # they seem to show that the read loop itself works fine 11.20.55 # and it doesn't fail until we try to write 11.22.12 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 11.27.00 # linus, i've submitted the patch 11.27.04 # nice 11.30.47 # looks good 11.31.22 # i can't wait to get 2.2 out the door, so we can include it in CVS 11.31.51 # yes, leave my patch out of 2.2 ! 11.32.54 # don't worry :-) 11.33.42 # 2.2 is released tomorrow ? 11.34.55 # that was our intention, i don't know if we have to delay it 11.49.17 Quit adi|home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.54.41 Join mattzz [0] (~mattzz@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 11.54.51 # hi 11.55.47 # Is there any restricion in minimum size of an mp3 sound? 11.58.12 # well, it should be at least 1 frame :-) 11.58.36 # how long is one frame? 11.58.59 # it depends, but a 44.1kHz frame is 26.1ms, iirc 11.59.27 # why do you ask? 11.59.52 # I found a nice metronome sound, but the "tock" is far too short. It is only played partly 12.00.02 # i think i know why 12.00.16 # how did you encode it? 12.00.43 # lame -V 9 -t --vbr-new 12.00.56 # and without parameters 12.01.01 # ok, and you didn't edit the file afterwards? 12.01.31 # nope, just converted to dezimal bytes and have bitswap() do the rest 12.01.59 # ok, so it is included as a C array in the source file? 12.02.19 # exactly (guess I did it the wrong way?) 12.02.31 # how big is the sound in bytes? 12.03.24 # mmpls 12.03.50 # The shortest tock is about 885 bytes 12.04.01 # 2 frames 12.04.30 # could be only 1 12.04.31 # The original archos firmware is not able to play it. The Rockbox firmware plays at least a part of it 12.05.13 # chip8.c uses a far shorter sound 12.05.27 # but it's beeing repeated 12.05.56 # since the size is odd, i assume that the frame count is odd as well, so i guess it's only 1 frame 12.07.50 # So, do I have to edit the mp3 file in any way? 12.10.22 # you shouldn't have to 12.10.58 # can you send me the file? 12.11.29 # mattzz@scrat:~/archos/metronome_sounds$ mpginfo tick.mp3 12.11.29 # tick.mp3 12.11.29 # Audio : Mpeg 1 layer 3 12.11.29 DBUG Enqueued KICK mattzz 12.11.29 # Estimated Duration: 00.15s 12.11.29 # 48 kbps 44100 Hz 12.11.30 *** Alert Mode level 1 12.11.30 # Frame size: 156 bytes 12.11.32 # Mono, No emphasis, original 12.11.34 # aha. 12.11.36 # sure. 12.12.49 # dcc does not work for you? 12.15.45 # no, i am irc:ing through a restrictive tunnel 12.15.58 # try linus at haxx se 12.15.58 # ok, I sent it via mail. 12.19.01 # got it 12.21.31 *** Alert Mode OFF 12.23.44 # it's 6 frames 12.24.24 # bitrates: 48, 48, 64, 48, 80, 32 12.24.45 # sorry, 5 frames 12.24.53 # 48, 64, 48, 80, 32 12.25.05 # does it start counting with 0? 12.25.13 # yes 12.25.27 # wait, what is counting? 12.25.39 # mpg123 -v gives me 4 12.26.14 # I must admit that I have not dealt with mp3 internals lately... 12.27.15 # 885 bytes is correct 12.27.30 # i see nothing wrong with this file 12.29.55 # is it possible that you failed to bitswap it all? 12.31.05 # well, I called rb->bitswap(sound, sizeof(sound)); 12.31.17 # looks good to me 12.31.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.32.30 # mp3asm (some diagnostic tool) shows me 3 probably broken frames... 12.32.42 # really? 12.32.47 # might have something to do with vbr 12.33.04 # probably, it looks good to me 12.33.25 # I will have a closer look into that. Thank you so far. 12.37.10 # hmmm, the CRC looks suspicious 12.42.31 # how can you tell? 12.42.52 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 12.45.03 # well, i can't, but the crc of the first frame is 0x0000, how likely is that? 13.07.57 # besides that the rockbox seems also to have problems playing short files (even files that passed mp3asm). That might be an issue when it comes to tts. 13.08.34 # Where "short" means < 0.5s 13.08.56 # strange 13.09.06 # I checked that with different files 13.09.24 # with default lame encoder settings 13.10.24 # when you say "play", do you mean pressing play on the file? 13.10.41 # and what exactly is "problems"? 13.10.45 # When playing short mp3 files from the plugin via rb->mp3_play_data(sound, sizeof(sound), callback); it seems that the ending is cut off 13.11.07 # ok 13.11.11 # When playing short mp3 files via rockbox' play function the cutting is even more 13.11.45 # gotta eat 13.11.52 # i'll be back after lunch 13.11.59 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|lunch (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.12.33 Join quelsaruk [0] (~supmedvet@193.136.159.169) 13.12.36 # hi 13.12.47 # ok - I'll be back tonight - cu 13.12.52 # Bagder, scrolling in the splash menu works! 13.12.57 # rockers! 13.12.57 # hi quelsaruk 13.13.05 Quit c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.13.07 # quelsaruk: send me the code!!!!!!!!!!! 13.13.09 # hi LinusN|lunch, can i send you the code? 13.13.10 # :) 13.13.16 # email it 13.13.35 Nick mattzz is now known as mattzz|away (~mattzz@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 13.13.35 DBUG Enqueued KICK mattzz|away 13.17.04 # now i just have a strange bug 13.17.40 # when calling the splash menu, i kill the minutes in the clock.. they just desappear and re-appear after closing the menu 13.17.42 # heheheh 13.18.02 # hehe 13.18.31 # but i don't understand why... 13.19.22 # afaik, that's controlled by a function that refreshes the top of the screen if the statusbar is on, no? 13.19.50 # and i haven't mess up with that code... 13.29.43 Quit mattzz|away ("Client exiting") 13.33.47 Join Mylacc` [0] (~Mylacc@pcp06947693pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 13.39.50 Nick LinusN|lunch is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.40.53 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 2 minutes at the last flood 13.40.53 # * quelsaruk hides 13.47.57 # LinusN, i'm diffing the changes 13.48.02 # good 13.48.05 Quit AciD` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.52.05 Quit Mylacc (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.55.09 # writing the mail and explaining what i've done... i'm not sure if my comments are good enought as the code is not finished 13.55.32 # don't worry 14.05.20 # message sent! 14.13.22 # LinusN? 14.14.02 # oh no, you shocked him to death! 14.14.09 # * Bagder grins 14.15.03 # he was not ready to see my code.. full of goat's blood :) 14.18.53 # cu! 14.18.55 # lunch time 14.19.12 Quit quelsaruk () 14.31.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.34.55 # LinusN: here? 14.36.29 # yes 14.36.40 # is the player any lighter than the recorder? 14.36.47 # speaking weight 14.36.56 # the archos site is confused about it 14.37.10 # i think the weight is about the same 14.37.29 # archos.com says 290 g / 12 oz 14.37.37 # but 12 oz is 340 g 14.37.43 # :-) 14.37.48 # and the fm/v2 is 290 which is 10.2 oz 14.38.18 # I'll assume 12 oz is correct for now 14.39.31 # do so 14.39.42 # updating the comparison table? 14.39.47 # yeps 14.39.54 # dimensions and weight added now 14.40.24 # wonderful 14.42.56 # archos doesn't even mention the fm recorder anymore 14.43.21 # while even the 6000 is still there 14.50.57 Join GDE-DeadMeat [0] (Gatekeeper@c-24-12-232-226.client.comcast.net) 15.12.48 # crap 15.12.52 # it got really wide 15.13.19 # never mind 15.14.22 # while you're at it, add a note about the bumber colors 15.14.25 # bumper 15.14.41 # ah right 15.15.02 # we have an issue with fm radio and flashing 15.15.17 # that radio detection thing? 15.15.29 # the serial comm glitches somehow 15.15.30 # yes 15.15.56 # do we know of any other units than the recorder that is available with both blue and black bumpers? 15.16.11 # i have no idea 15.18.05 # a quick search in the rockbox archive shows only recorders 15.18.52 # yeps 15.23.05 # is CPU frequency interesting to add to the table? 15.24.09 # I guess it doesn't hurt 15.26.35 # guess not 15.27.58 # dags att dra! 15.28.00 Part Bagder 15.33.35 # time to go 15.33.36 Part LinusN 15.51.33 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61c8e.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 16.13.29 # good morning 16.14.33 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACC73D3E.ipt.aol.com) 16.14.56 # Ka_: got your jukebox yet? 16.18.38 Join pfavr [0] (pfavr@dyna218-123.nada.kth.se) 16.21.20 # hey pfavr 16.21.53 # got my jukebox... up and running and full of mp3's 16.22.02 # diddystar5, hey! 16.22.35 # GDE-DeadMeat: goody 16.23.02 # yeppers 16.23.10 # rockbox my socks off. 16.23.19 # :) 16.23.48 # before I installed rockbox, I was listing to a few w/ the archos firmware 16.23.52 # evil I tell ya 16.23.58 # sound distortion from hell. 16.24.03 # especially w/ the highnotes. 16.25.12 # yeah 16.29.02 # I hear a *few* distortions here and there w/ rockbox... but not enough to even consider it a bother. 16.31.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.35.00 # good 16.35.09 # what headphones do you use? 16.36.04 # I used the ones that came w/ the player? 16.36.06 # :-P 16.36.18 # AHHHH! 16.36.19 # didn't know if it was worth of the sony's or Bose yet 16.36.35 # i use $10 sony earbuds :) 16.36.45 # oiiivey 16.36.49 # they are 10x better than the archos headphones 16.36.53 # can't stand earbuds to much 16.36.55 # I have some. 16.37.40 # I like nice padded headphones... 16.37.51 # what are they? 16.37.58 # the kind that make sweet love to your ears w/ their clean crisp sound 16.38.06 # ok 16.38.07 # :) 16.38.18 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 16.38.22 # I like using my uncle's Bose noise canceling headset 16.38.25 # mmmmmm.... 16.38.33 # yes sir... beautiful sound. 16.43.48 Join quelsaruk [0] (~WzY@193.136.159.168) 16.43.50 # hi 16.45.50 Join track [0] (~74d57721@ACBE776D.ipt.aol.com) 16.45.56 Quit track (Client Quit) 16.46.22 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACC612F7.ipt.aol.com) 16.46.41 # hi diddystar5 16.47.08 # hey quelsaruk 16.47.14 # yes? 16.47.38 # (nothing) 16.48.00 # :P 16.48.02 # sorry 16.48.08 # :D 16.49.09 # lol 16.51.23 # hmm.. i wanted to speak with linus 16.51.24 # :/ 16.52.52 # >logbot_< seen LinusN 16.52.52 # -logbot_- LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) left the channel 1 hour and 19 minutes ago 16.56.51 # i know 16.56.52 # :P 16.57.02 # thx anyway 17.00.48 Quit GDE-DeadMeat ("Client exited") 17.02.46 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 17.13.27 # oh great Linus, i call you!! Please hear my cry (this works sometimes) 17.15.13 # heh 17.18.20 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.18.22 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.18.36 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.28.03 # time to go to school 17.28.05 # bye 17.28.30 # cu! 17.28.35 # school?? 17.28.44 # yes im 14 :) 17.29.15 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 17.29.27 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/1]") 17.34.20 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.41.41 Quit mecraw__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.46.20 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 18.02.10 # cu! 18.02.14 Quit quelsaruk () 18.16.14 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.21.19 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7EE5D.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.22.38 Nick amiconn is now known as amiconn|away (~jens@pD9E7EE5D.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.25.34 Quit AciD` ("www.cpm-fr.com") 18.28.52 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Kingston-ppp193462.sympatico.ca) 18.30.07 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 18.30.22 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.31.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.41.07 Join funkymonkey [0] (methangas@0x50c61c8e.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 18.42.18 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 18.43.40 # anyone here mounted an archos jukebox recorder 2.0 under linux? i'm trying to determin what device linux sees it as. i thought it would be /dev/sda1 18.43.48 Quit elinenbe (truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.43.48 NSplit truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 18.43.48 Quit methangas (truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.43.49 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 18.43.50 Nick funkymonkey is now known as methangas (methangas@0x50c61c8e.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 18.45.57 Join mattzz [0] (~mattzz@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 18.47.20 Quit mecraw__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.56.14 Nick edx is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EAB8F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.59.08 Quit maikeul (Remote closed the connection) 19.09.09 Nick edx{code} is now known as edx{eatz} (edx@pD9EAB8F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.10.45 Nick mattzz is now known as mattzz|away (~mattzz@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 19.11.01 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FA4B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.14.30 Part amiconn 19.20.14 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 19.23.25 Quit AciD` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.24.22 NHeal (timeout) truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 19.28.48 Quit amiconn|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.29.19 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 19.34.46 Quit mattzz|away (Remote closed the connection) 19.49.51 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.50.01 # Ka_: any luck with the mounting? 19.50.13 # not yet 19.50.44 # /var/log/messages usually tells which device it maps to 20.01.03 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.14.22 Nick LinusN is now known as Linus|fairytale (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 20.24.04 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.28.37 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FA4B.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.30.40 Nick amiconn is now known as amiconn|away (~jens@pD9E7FA4B.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.32.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.34.51 # a directory with 89 subfolders is giving a dir buffer full message while a directory with 13 is not with the daily build from yesterday. it's been reported as bug #885940 but just wanted to let u know it's still not wokring in the build from yesterday 20.37.06 # with 2.2 coming out jsut thought i'd be able to get more response saying something in here 20.37.17 # that is for archos v2 20.39.17 Quit Mylacc` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.57.13 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.04.22 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 21.12.17 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 21.24.30 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9512602.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.24.50 # Hi [IDC]Dragon 21.24.59 Nick amiconn|away is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7FA4B.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.25.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> not away? 21.25.17 # No longer away. 21.25.42 Nick edx{eatz} is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EAB8F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.25.52 Quit AciD` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.26.29 Join quelsaruk [0] (~vg743wd@193.136.159.160) 21.26.32 # hi 21.26.47 # hi [IDC]Dragon 21.27.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi everybody! 21.27.42 # linus, tell me when you've finished the tale :) 21.28.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> you also want one, right? 21.28.24 # hello everyone... 21.29.13 # for sure [IDC]Dragon :) 21.29.14 # hi elinenbe 21.42.44 # what are you working on right now [IDC]Dragon? 21.43.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> good question 21.43.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> do I always have to? 21.43.21 # hmmmmmmmm 21.43.47 # if you where spanish i would say, *no* 21.43.49 # but.. 21.43.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> right now I'm close to do a little profiling on the startup 21.43.50 # ;) 21.44.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> looking at stuff 21.44.10 # aham 21.44.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> and you? 21.44.49 # i sent linus a preview of the splash menus this afternoon 21.45.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes ,saw that in the log 21.45.07 # and i wanted to know his opinion so i know how to continue that 21.45.23 # i have to kill that strange clock bug 21.45.42 # what are the splash menus? 21.46.30 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.46.35 # i'll send you a snapshot 21.46.44 # great! 21.46.48 # I'll take a look. 21.46.55 # it's hard for me to explain 21.48.06 # okay! 21.48.13 # are you going to email or dcc? 21.48.29 # either works fine for me... my email is elinenbeATumichDOTedu 21.50.04 # email then 21.50.09 Join GDE-DeadMeat [0] (Gatekeeper@c-24-12-232-226.client.comcast.net) 21.52.58 # sent 21.53.55 # [IDC]Dragon, i just wanted to know that because i'm interested in all your ideas.. video,cd charger emulator and so on :) 21.54.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, lots of ideas 21.54.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> I have a bunch of unfinished stuff: 21.54.39 # i have just one.. and got it from dwihno :) 21.55.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> JPEG viewer, talking UI, all-in-one video converter 21.55.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> plans for the CD changer emulator 21.55.59 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 21.56.03 # thats the most interesting project for me ;) 21.56.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> I currently avoid it because it's so much intrusive to Rockbox 21.56.56 # i suppose so 21.57.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't want to fork off from the normal development 21.57.32 # [IDC]Dragon: how close are you to being finished with the jpeg viewer? 21.57.59 # [IDC]Dragon: I think it would be INCREDIBLE to view images embedded in ID3v2 tags 21.58.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> the decoder works, I have ported halftoning to integer arithmetic 21.58.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> it will be a plugin, so no viewing from within Rockbox 22.03.16 Quit wake ("off to work") 22.03.18 # [IDC]Dragon: you should include it in the unfinished but very complete id3 viewer plugin 22.03.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> that may be an option 22.07.30 # hm.. which function places the pointer (the selector) in the screen?? :( 22.12.31 # good afternoon everyone 22.12.48 # good night GDE-DeadMeat ;) 22.13.32 # elinenbe, did you get the snapshot? 22.14.36 # quelsaruk: yes I did. 22.14.47 # quelsaruk: I am not sure if I like it better or worse! 22.15.07 # I think the entire menu system needs a big fix right about now. 22.15.08 # it's not intended to be that 22.15.15 # everything is such a mess. 22.15.21 # I know. I am just talking. 22.15.22 # hm.. 22.15.33 # i mean, the splash menu is something like that 22.15.36 # and plugins need to be sorted by type... 22.15.46 # not that all menus should be in a splash window 22.15.55 # agree. 22.16.04 # let me see if i have the fake snapshot i made once.. 22.16.12 # that is what i really want to do 22.20.32 # no, i don't have it 22.27.23 Quit GDE-DeadMeat ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 22.30.19 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 22.32.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.32.37 Nick amiconn is now known as amicon|afk (~jens@pD9E7FA4B.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.39.23 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 22.40.45 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- :P") 22.46.16 Join chris [0] (jirc@164.117.203.213.9nanterr1-0-ro-bas-1.9tel.net) 22.46.22 # hi ! 22.46.30 # hi 22.47.45 # I've put the ajbrec file in the recorder 20 1.28 fimware & it tells me "error accessing playlist file control" 22.48.08 # do you have a .rockbox folder? 22.48.17 # no 22.48.39 # do I have to put it on the disk too? 22.49.07 # you need it, because the playlist control file is written there, so if you don't have that folder, rockbox can't create it 22.49.11 # yes 22.49.20 # :) 22.49.29 # ok,I'll do it now 22.51.57 # ok !!! it works !! thanks 22.52.16 # you're welcome 22.53.52 # 2:39 hours of fairytale... that's a long one!! 22.54.17 # if I push play in the plugins on"firmware flash",what happens? 22.55.21 # ummm 22.55.23 # nothing 22.55.36 # i think 22.55.45 # but.. don't try if you don't want to flash 22.55.46 # :) 22.56.00 # :)) 22.56.36 Join mattzz [0] (~mattzz@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.56.46 # aieeeee 22.56.48 Quit mattzz (Client Quit) 22.56.49 # hi 22.56.53 # ?? 23.02.06 Quit chris ("Leaving") 23.12.34 Nick Linus|fairytale is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.12.52 # hi LinusN! 23.20.35 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Kitchener-ppp320804.sympatico.ca) 23.23.06 Quit edx{code} () 23.23.44 # gotta reboot, cu in a while 23.23.48 # cu 23.23.48 Part LinusN 23.31.09 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.31.36 # re LinusN 23.32.20 # yo man 23.33.24 # hmm.. what's the function which puts the pointer in the screen?? i thought it was one.. but now i've realized that is other one :( 23.33.40 # pointer? 23.34.11 # the pointer line selector 23.35.52 Nick amicon|afk is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7FA4B.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.36.05 # you mean the arrow cursor? 23.36.09 # yes 23.36.10 # that 23.36.11 # :) 23.36.27 # i need a quelsaruk/english dictionary :D 23.36.32 # :-) 23.37.29 # Hi LinusN! 23.37.35 # amiconn: hi jens 23.38.17 # What do you think about my ata test? I'm not really satisfied with the results though... 23.38.34 # interesting results indeed 23.38.46 # how does it work? 23.38.56 # you read the entire buffer and checksums it? 23.39.59 # si it doesn't seem to be a problem with disk reading after all 23.40.29 # Yes, I'm quite sure that it isn't the reading alone. 23.40.33 # and when you think of it, they never complained that the playback was bad 23.41.01 # so, it is probably a read operation followed by a write 23.41.14 # How it works: I extended ata_read_sectors with a 3rd parameter to choose different copy_read_sectors version. 23.41.35 # one thing to not is that the read operation is done by one thread and the write by another 23.41.41 # s/not/note/ 23.42.28 # Then I renamed this ata_read_sectors to ata_read_sectors_ex and call this from a stub ata_read_sectors with speed=0. Thus it's safe for noraml operation. 23.43.15 # Then I included ata_read_sectors_ex into plugin api 23.43.49 # My plugin reads the beginning of the disk (as much as fits into the buffers) and checksums it. 23.44.12 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.44.52 # It does this for all speed/alignment combinations (in order to use all different routines) and compares the checksum with that for speed=0 (the C version). 23.45.19 # and it works for everybody 23.46.21 # Yes. I did some further calculations with the results. All disks seem to deliver the same read speeds (apart from seek time differences). 23.47.06 # In doing this, I found another way of improving the overall speed of rockbox (confirmed working on my hardware)! 23.47.37 # and that is? 23.48.59 # My speed improvement: You set warp mode and also burst mode. Both don't help much: warp mode apparently does nothing for DRAM access, 23.49.52 # burst mode by itself does only improve speed if DRAM access is continuous _without_ accessing other addresses in between, which is rarely the case. 23.50.00 # agreed 23.52.20 # I stumbled across bit 14 in register DCR: RAS down mode. If you set this bit, RAM pages are held open as long as possible, even if you access other addresses, as long as you don't access another DRAM page. 23.53.12 # Of course you have to make sure not to hold RAS down for too long, but since the CPU is set to do the DRAM refresh, this is guaranteed. 23.53.44 # static column, that is? 23.54.18 # Yes, aka fast page mode. 23.55.15 # we have Fast Page RAM on the Player and EDO on the Recorder 23.55.23 # I've calculated then max. time RAS will be held down if you set RAS down mode, it is within specs for both the recorder and player DRAMS. 23.56.19 # and the speed improvement? 23.56.46 # If you have a player at hand, you could test it, works perfectly for my recorder. The speed improvement varies with the routines. 23.57.16 # I measured 15% speed increase for bitswap and ~10% for the various ata loops. 23.57.29 # serious? 23.57.47 # that rocks! 23.58.41 # Yes, I _measured_ as I said. The modification is very easy: Just change line 489 in system.c to read "DCR != 5000" 23.58.41 # * quelsaruk is impressed