--- Log for 24.03.104 Server: truong.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 month and 10 days ago 00.14.11 Join midk [0] (mk@ACC6D3AA.ipt.aol.com) 00.36.08 Quit _aLF (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.39.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.52.01 Part amiconn|afk 00.54.10 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-24-247.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 01.01.09 Quit wake ("leaving") 01.04.53 Join diddystar5 [0] (lee@IC87.library.oregonstate.edu) 01.06.54 Join wake [0] (~wake@69.158.10.244) 02.25.55 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.25.55 Quit top_bloke (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.39.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.59.55 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 03.02.44 Join Frihet [0] (~chatzilla@38.119.217.150) 03.03.23 # frihet 03.03.35 # Yes, Frihet. 03.04.03 # Just dropped in to see what was happening. 03.04.39 # hi 03.05.14 # Hello. I must say, I'm really enjoying my Rocbox FMR 03.05.23 # Can't type 03.05.32 # :) 03.06.35 # I just put the latest build on -- listening to Hayden Organ Concerto 03.09.59 Quit Frihet ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/20040120]") 04.08.32 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 04.25.29 Quit wake ("leaving") 04.34.17 Join Norrin [0] (~JSmith123@ip68-13-107-239.om.om.cox.net) 04.35.12 # A little help please. Just flashed the newest CVS. It says HINT: You're not using the latest bootloader. A full reflash is recommended, but not required. 04.35.15 # Can I fix this at this time? 04.35.30 # hi 04.35.46 # if you wish 04.36.00 # redownload the flash pack, rerun firmware_flash.rock.. etc 04.39.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.39.20 Join Llaman [0] (PvH@h24-108-180-149.gv.shawcable.net) 04.39.21 # Ola! 04.39.43 # If anyone's home, maybe you can give me some advice on Blind Boxin'. 04.40.02 # sure 04.40.09 # Due to severe financial constraints, I cannot afford to replace the broken LCD on my archos. 04.40.15 # That worked. Thanks. 04.40.17 Part Norrin 04.40.22 # I remember seeing a discussion on the list about an audio-cued Archos. 04.40.45 # But I never managed to get much out of it. 04.41.00 # Is that project still going? Is the a site for it? 04.42.48 # Woah, I was out of the loop for a while, and now I see notes about Voice-UI in the changelogs... 04.42.52 # Is there documentation for this? 04.44.41 # yes 04.44.49 # um 04.44.52 # well the menus speak 04.44.54 # not much else yet 04.45.50 # That's a heck of a lot better than I have right now. 04.46.01 # So now here's the _REAL_ puzzle. 04.46.22 # I am running a flashed recorder of the rare kind. 04.46.35 # Can I still get the .ajz to boot by simply putting it in the root? 04.46.46 # no 04.46.48 # you have to rolo it 04.47.03 # Crap. 04.47.11 # Which is going to be rough without a screen. 04.47.18 # http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/ 04.47.22 # uh? 04.47.26 # My LCD broke. 04.47.30 # ouch 04.47.33 # hmm 04.47.35 # I can't afford to send it to Archos for a repair. 04.47.43 # <- student 04.47.47 # you can get replacement LCDs, did you know? 04.47.54 # How? 04.47.59 # online 04.48.06 # From Archos? 04.48.10 # just a moment 04.51.21 # Rutronik.com? 04.51.59 # ? 04.52.33 # There's a thread on the mailing list about rutronik.com (a german company) that might sell the LCD screen for an archos. 04.52.42 # I don't see the part number there though. 04.52.46 # hmm 04.52.50 # yes there have been threads 04.52.59 # i was looking for the site 04.56.40 # Did you find it? 04.57.00 # no sorry\ 04.57.04 # hard to find these things 04.57.09 # they disappear in the archives 04.57.14 # i rarely find anything i look for :) 04.58.34 # :( 04.58.45 # My screen has been broken for several months now. 05.01.49 # this may work 05.02.06 # The LCD is a SYT G112064-30, made by Shing Yih Technology Co Ltd. 05.02.06 # Photo: http://www.sytco.com.tw/image/product/g112064-30.jpg 05.02.06 # Specs: http://www.sytco.com.tw/pdf_1/data/cog/g112064-30-3.pdf 05.02.34 # hmm not loading 05.03.02 # try this link 05.03.03 # http://www.google.com/search?q=replace+lcd+site%3Arockbox.haxx.se&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 05.03.59 # thanks... i'm looking through 05.04.52 # should be something there 05.05.37 Join GuestBarry [0] (jirc@66.236.25.41.ptr.us.xo.net) 05.06.01 # hi, http://www.newmp3technology.net sells those lcd's 05.06.28 # THAT'S IT 05.06.33 # that was the site 05.06.54 # hehe, DOH! 05.07.21 # check out the new Archos forums on there too :-] 05.08.22 # everyone's moving off of funmp3players forums now 05.09.16 # yes that's where i went 05.09.21 # aren't the two places related? 05.09.35 # couldn't find a link, but i knew it was something like that.... 05.11.39 # i doubt they r related 05.12.20 # yeah there it is 05.12.21 # $25 05.12.24 # not bad 05.13.00 # get 25 lcd's for only 400 bucks! :) 05.13.04 # a bargain 05.14.26 # lol 05.16.13 # Aha! 05.16.28 # Thanks! 05.16.33 # Time to see if I can't order one right now. 05.16.38 # :) 05.16.49 # Anyone else here use winamp 5? 05.17.09 # i have it 05.17.20 # The media library really kicks it -- it lets you do some pretty good dynamic play lists. 05.17.26 # same here 05.17.57 # So I have a view called "Nothing Exciting" with a definition of "lastplayed < [1 week ago] or playcount > 5" 05.18.00 # * GuestBarry likes the modern skin 05.18.22 # And I have another one called "Mix it up" which only plays songs I haven't heard for a month or ever played. 05.18.27 # And so on. 05.18.48 # I wish there was some way to get that information from my Archos into winamp as well. 05.18.57 # A play-log. 05.19.01 # cool 05.21.18 # Check it out. It's my new absolute favorite thing. 05.22.01 # You can make up definitions for bands you like to hear together and when you get new songs they just show up. 05.22.30 # It would be nice if there were some kind of media library for the 'box. Hmmm. Maybe if the 'box could read winamp's media library... 05.22.41 # * Llaman is just thinking out loud. 05.22.44 # why a media librarty? 05.23.01 # Don't have to search the directory tree. 05.23.18 # Make up custom queries to use as dynamic playlists. 05.23.33 # Less renaming of files to make them fit on the archos screen... 05.23.40 # ok ok :) 05.24.01 # I think the devs have said they aren't interested in implementing one though. 05.29.28 # Oh happy, happy day. 05.29.33 # I have an LCD on the way. 05.30.00 # yay! 05.30.41 # now it's time to catch up on what's changed since, oh, january. 05.32.02 # *dies 05.32.42 # big list? when i stopped updating development was really quiet. i thought maybe the project was finished. 05.35.09 # lol 05.35.13 # i have to go 05.35.17 # good luck with that lcd 05.35.45 Quit midk ("did i die?") 06.06.15 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.18.03 Join thep0et [0] (thep0et@209.89.241.39) 06.18.23 # anyone know where I can download some Pimsleur language files? 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11.17.25 Quit matsl (truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.17.25 NSplit truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.17.25 Quit Nibbler (truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.17.25 Quit ze (truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.17.25 Quit MT (truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.18.11 NHeal truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.18.11 NJoin matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp88.contactor.se) 11.18.11 NJoin Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 11.18.11 NJoin MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 11.18.11 NJoin ze [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-45-180.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 11.18.55 # c0utta: i'm here 11.19.44 # i do a "cvs update -dP" every day to sync 11.20.10 # i get a lot of ".#file name.c.1.113" files 11.20.24 # can i ignore them ? 11.22.21 # yes 11.22.55 # i always do a "make clean" and then a "make" to ensure that i still have a valid source 11.23.05 # i thought i'd be ok 11.35.11 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.36.26 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 11.46.57 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.51.09 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 11.57.37 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.26.50 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.39.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.53.19 Quit c0utta (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/") 12.53.39 Join quelsaruk [0] (~d2m30in@193.136.159.153) 12.53.42 # hi 12.58.52 Join c0utta [0] (~c0utta@dialup-168.97.220.203.acc01-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 12.59.29 Quit c0utta (Client Quit) 13.00.11 Join c0utta [0] (~c0utta@dialup-168.97.220.203.acc01-waym-adl.comindico.com.au) 13.00.58 # re c0utta 13.01.04 # LinusN: u there ? 13.04.39 # now i am 13.04.48 # ok, can i speak to you privately ? 13.06.58 # hi quelsaruk 13.07.03 # :) 13.11.38 Quit c0utta (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/") 13.14.45 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 13.17.09 # cu! 13.17.12 Quit quelsaruk () 13.48.10 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.57.40 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 14.06.45 Join EoS [0] (trilluser@pD9558CFA.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.07.06 # hello 14.08.50 Quit EoS (Client Quit) 14.35.41 Quit AciD` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.39.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.11.51 Part LinusN 15.17.46 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.36.07 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.36.33 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.37.53 Join Godzuki [0] (~jirc@170.183.190.83) 16.39.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.39.42 # how long are the lithium batteries in the v2 recorders supposed to last? 16.43.27 Join scott666_ [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 17.03.16 Quit elinenbe (" HydraIRC rocks! -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 17.03.52 Quit Godzuki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.10.01 Join cjnr11 [0] (dfd@bobillot-5-82-224-193-23.fbx.proxad.net) 17.10.16 Part cjnr11 17.23.07 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61cfd.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 18.37.18 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 18.39.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.17.06 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.17.13 # uski: you there? 19.18.02 # i suddenly remembered that i have already analyzed the player lcd init 19.18.10 # in the dawn of the Rockbox project 19.18.38 # well, a long time ago anyway 19.18.45 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-05/0092.shtml 19.23.32 Join edx{code} [0] (edx@pD9EAAF34.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.32.06 Part LinusN 19.41.15 Nick edx{code} is now known as edx{eatz} (edx@pD9EAAF34.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.01.22 Join Bert [0] (bert@pD958D363.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.05.10 Quit Bert (Client Quit) 20.12.14 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7F82C.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.13.00 Nick amiconn is now known as amiconn|afk (~jens@pD9E7F82C.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.39.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.47.55 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.13.11 Nick edx{eatz} is now known as edx{code} (edx@pD9EAAF34.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.47.47 Quit uski ("Fermeture du client") 21.51.39 Join diddystar5 [0] (lee@IC83.library.oregonstate.edu) 22.00.00 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se) 22.02.37 Join cjnr11 [0] (dfd@bobillot-5-82-224-193-23.fbx.proxad.net) 22.02.38 Part cjnr11 22.10.45 Join Masskiller [0] (~masskille@bgp01039051bgs.southg01.mi.comcast.net) 22.10.50 # this is some serious bullshit 22.11.02 # i sent my recorder 20 back to archos 22.11.08 # because the USB stopped working 22.11.14 # and they told me that it was the firmware 22.11.18 # and they want $65 22.11.26 # i want to take them to court and get like $1000000000000 22.11.37 # its sill under warrentee too 22.12.44 # ha 22.12.54 # do it :) 22.13.16 # did they find rockbox or something? 22.20.38 # yeah 22.20.43 # and the dude is like 22.20.48 # "you cant just go changing the firmware" 22.20.55 # "this is designed by engineers..." 22.20.56 # so i said 22.21.11 # "the ROM is made to be programmed. I progammed it. Your point?" 22.21.35 # he said it voided the warentee 22.21.40 # Archos' limited warranty covers only those defects which arise as a result of normal use of the product, and do not apply to any: 22.21.40 # improper or inadequate maintenance or modification; 22.21.40 # software, interfacing, media, parts, or supplies not provided or supported by Archos; or 22.21.40 DBUG Enqueued KICK Masskiller 22.21.40 # operation outside the product's specifications. 22.21.49 # would that be classified as software? 22.22.04 # bewcause they dont define improper or wahtever modification 22.22.13 # so there's no way that i can tell what's proper or not 22.22.54 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.23.18 # i am inclined to agree with archos here 22.24.45 # i hate you 22.24.46 # :( 22.24.53 # but i think rockbox is much less lily to screw up your box :) 22.24.56 # theoretically, there *could* be something wrong with rockbox that killed the usb port 22.25.01 # argggggggh 22.25.07 # that sucks a fat one 22.25.08 # lol 22.25.15 # and how could they be liable when you reprogrammed it? 22.25.22 # :\ 22.25.39 # but me also gotta go with archos... 22.25.39 # im telling you, they dont define anything in the terms of use 22.25.51 # and they fixed it, then try to charge me 22.25.57 # they didnt tell me a price, then fix it 22.26.00 # but still, i don't think for a minute that rockbox killed your player 22.26.06 # is that even legal 22.26.24 # i mean, im so pissed 22.26.30 # this is the second archos i had 22.26.36 # and they want to charge me more money 22.26.36 # you should be 22.26.48 # im seriously about to just say screw mp3 players 22.26.52 # i dont care anymore 22.27.02 # ill just make my own 22.27.03 Quit edx{code} () 22.27.34 # but seriously, take a look at their warrantee info 22.27.40 # it doesnt tell you what is allowed and what isn't 22.27.44 # http://www.archos.com/support/warranty_info.html?sid=j22k2ojkbjjyo2ybos2of2 22.27.48 # improper or inadequate maintenance or modification; 22.27.52 # software, interfacing, media, parts, or supplies not provided or supported by Archos; or 22.27.56 # operation outside the product's specifications. 22.28.02 # they don't tell you the specifications 22.28.06 # they don't tell you what's supported 22.28.15 # they don't tell you what's improper or inadequate 22.28.23 # and yet they expect you to stay inside those terms 22.28.32 # well, sue then :) 22.28.36 # "software not provided by archos" 22.28.54 # or supported 22.29.01 # for all i know, rockkbox could be supported by them 22.29.07 # and rockbox is neither 22.29.10 # but there's no list 22.29.12 # so how would i know? 22.29.28 # did you get rockbox from them? 22.29.51 # no, but the guy in the emails i talked to said that they didn't care, and it was ok 22.30.01 # if you want me to, i could forward them 22.30.05 # still have the email? 22.30.06 # or put them in a .txt on the web 22.30.15 # lemme load putty 22.30.17 # i want to see the mail i have to seethat 22.30.19 # hold o 22.30.27 # my computer just half froze 22.30.31 # mirc is the only thing responding 22.30.41 # and AIM died 22.30.41 # wtf? 22.31.47 # im going to linux to wrk a bit 22.31.50 # ill be back 22.31.57 # in a sec 22.32.06 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 22.32.40 Nick amiconn|afk is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F82C.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.33.31 # http://masskiller.verixo.com/email.txt 22.33.35 # Hi Linus! 22.33.49 # "the rock box doesn't hurt anything." 22.33.50 # hi amiconn 22.34.26 # LinusN: Did you already find some time to have a look at my ata test? 22.35.58 Join diddystar5 [0] (~lee@IC83.library.oregonstate.edu) 22.36.19 # diddy: 22.36.21 # http://masskiller.verixo.com/email.txt 22.37.40 Join pappou [0] (~pappou@p5080493B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.37.45 # good evidence 22.37.47 # "don't worry man, we've seen it all" 22.37.55 # "the rock box doesn't hurt anything. 22.37.55 # " 22.38.07 # and this spic bastard (i hope i didnt offend anyone) is trying to make mepay $65 22.38.17 Quit pappou (Remote closed the connection) 22.38.24 Join pappou [0] (~pappou@p5080493B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.38.27 # that's almost as much as i paid for the thing 22.38.33 # i only paid like $150 22.38.43 # or maybe less 22.38.45 # i dont remember 22.38.59 # cause there was some weird rebates 22.39.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.42.42 Join track [0] (74d57721@ACBA37A8.ipt.aol.com) 22.43.09 # hi 22.43.37 # hi track 22.43.57 # hi amiconn 22.44.29 # amiconn: i looked at it today, didn't run it though 22.44.33 # hi linus 22.44.54 # Did you find something I may have overlooked? 22.46.22 # not really 22.46.42 # the guy said i fried the PCB board 22.46.45 # wtf is this 22.46.53 # and they couldn't even repair it 22.47.16 Quit track (Client Quit) 22.47.34 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 22.47.59 # which is total BS 22.48.00 # but wahtever 22.48.10 # now they're sending it back to me 22.49.16 # LinusN: While testing the test ;) I even introduced a line that wrote a single byte somewhere into the buffer for one pass, to see if the CRC catches this. It did, always. 22.49.26 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") 22.49.42 # is it possible to "fry a pcb board" by installing rockbox? 22.49.50 # or are they just feeding me a load of shit 22.49.57 # Masskiller: i doubt it 22.50.18 # they said they couldn't fix it 22.50.20 # and they would have to uh 22.50.26 # replace it 22.50.43 # when did it die, and how? 22.50.50 # well 22.50.50 # music still played 22.50.53 # but USB didn't work 22.51.05 # even with the same usb cord on the same computer as my friend 22.51.12 # who has the same player as me 22.51.49 # i think i should get better service for buying two of them myself, and having like 3 or 4 of my friends get them also 22.51.56 # but no, they give me a load of BS 22.52.01 # whatever 22.54.13 # and like 22.54.19 # the weirdest part was the fact that 22.54.27 # i installed rockbox 22.54.28 # and like 4 days later 22.54.36 # it stopped working with USB 22.54.40 # out of the middle of nowhere 22.54.55 # well, i updated it i think 22.58.05 # i feel like i'm talking to myself here :\ 23.01.09 # i'm listening 23.03.29 Join wake [0] (~wake@69.158.14.247) 23.12.08 # LinusN: Atm I'm preparing an optimized ata _write_ loop. Already did it in C (taking Jörg's C optimized reading as a template) - more than twice as fast as the old one. 23.12.38 # nice 23.12.40 # This may helpful for recording as well as for VBR fix. 23.13.06 # Assembler version is also on the way, just did a "dry test" with pen and paper. 23.13.08 # to bad my JB is dead :( i wanna see amiconn's optimizations 23.13.26 # and since my box died, i have had no inspirtation 23.13.42 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.14.52 # LinusN: For another area, I would hear your opinion at first: I've seen that in the recording routines in mpeg.c, some code is doubled 23.16.00 # i'll be away for a little while, i'll be back 23.16.06 # which is also marked as "optimized, better to write this in assembler". I would like to tackle that. 23.17.43 # Okay, I'll wait then.. 23.18.38 # amiconn: id you work with SH1 before rockbox or something? 23.18.41 # *did 23.20.11 # i need an opinion from someone, in the vu meter, shouold i leave the 2 differnt needle covers, or just leave one? 23.20.14 Join mattzz [0] (~mattzz@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 23.20.20 # hey mattzz 23.20.27 # hi diddystar5 23.20.34 # what's cookin? 23.21.11 # working on code 23.22.22 # diddystar5: Didn't work with SH1 before, but (a long time ago) with both Z80 and 8086 assembler. I like to do such low level stuff, and I know how to read manuals. 23.22.56 # amiconn: neat, i'm tring to learn Z80 assembly right now for my Ti-83+ 23.24.01 # diddystar5: I did Z80 assembler back in the 80's both for my ZX Spectrum and a GDR home computer. 23.24.21 Quit Masskiller (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.30.35 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.30.35 # * diddystar5 has no idea what those are 23.32.56 # diddystar5: ZX Spectrum: A cheap home computer made by the British company Sinclair Ltd. CPU Z80 @3.5 MHz, 48 KB RAM, graphics 256x192 pixels, 8 colors, attached to a TV set via HF modulator. Programs were stored on an ordinary cassette recorder. 23.34.25 # heh the first computer i used when i was 4 was a 40 mhz processor with a 500 mb HD thats about all i can remember about it 23.34.43 # 40mhz! 23.34.46 # gee 23.35.06 # my c64 ran in 1mhz 23.35.09 # Home computer "KC85/3" made in the GDR (East Germany): Z80 CPU @1.75 MHz, base 16 KB RAM, expandable via modules, graphics 320x256 pixels, 8 colors, attached to a TV set via HF modulator or RGB connector. Programs were also stored on cassette recorder. 23.36.35 # my ti 83+ is 8 mhz :) 23.46.41 Quit scott666_ ("i'll be back...eventually...") 23.49.45 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-118-196-95.mn.client2.attbi.com) 23.49.47 Part scott666 23.56.21 # WOW 23.57.19 Quit ze (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.58.39 # With my new assembler optimized ata write loop, the writing is _faster_ than the reading, even though it is not as much unrolled.