--- Log for 19.04.104 Server: truong.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 2 months and 6 days ago 00.02.26 # that's how you generally do with gcc asm stuff... 00.02.39 # trial and error i mean 00.03.24 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 00.06.11 Join midk [0] (mk@AC879AC8.ipt.aol.com) 00.08.26 # time to sleep 00.08.30 # cu tomorrow 00.08.35 Part LinusN 00.24.31 Quit jkerman (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.25.07 Nick midk is now known as midk|movire (mk@AC879AC8.ipt.aol.com) 00.25.12 Nick midk|movire is now known as midk|movie (mk@AC879AC8.ipt.aol.com) 00.27.34 Join jkerman [0] (Dudewin32@jkhouse2.jvlnet.com) 00.38.41 Quit Ka_ ("* poof *") 01.06.10 Quit lImbus (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The dawn of a new age") 01.17.24 Part amiconn 01.27.19 Join Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@pcp261336pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 01.51.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.52.40 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.45 Quit Ka_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.54.48 Join Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@pcp261336pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 02.00.15 Quit AciD ("http://swpat.ffii.org/") 02.22.35 Join scott666_ [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.27.51 Join track [0] (58c3a1b6@ACBE3C43.ipt.aol.com) 02.38.25 Quit adi|home (Client Quit) 03.00.32 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-66.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 03.26.31 Nick midk|movie is now known as midk (mk@AC879AC8.ipt.aol.com) 03.26.31 Quit track (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.26.45 # midk 03.26.49 # scotteh 03.26.50 Nick scott666_ is now known as scott666 (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 03.31.12 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 03.39.53 Join sajdak [0] (sajdak@c-67-173-63-47.client.comcast.net) 03.40.43 # is the Archos Jukebox Recorder V2 a good player? 03.40.48 # yes 03.41.08 # is there any mayor down sides to buying it 03.41.16 # casue iam really considering getting one 03.42.21 # not really 03.42.37 # k do u own one? 03.42.44 # used to 03.43.00 # amazon has great deal for one 03.43.04 # $150 03.43.06 # yeah it's like $120 03.43.08 # oh 03.43.11 # that's good too :) 03.43.13 # use to be 130 03.43.19 # lol 03.43.20 # yup 03.45.13 Quit sajdak () 03.51.06 Join telliott [0] (telliott@208-251-255-120.res.evv.cable.sigecom.net) 03.51.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.23.18 Part telliott 04.38.25 Join facted [0] (~facted@dyn-ec-194-77.dyn.columbia.edu) 04.55.17 Join BC|busy [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 04.57.21 Nick BC|busy is now known as BlueChip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 05.00.08 # BC yay 05.00.13 # hey mk 05.01.01 # why does this work: 05.01.02 # #if SIMVER==win32 05.01.08 # and this fail: 05.01.10 # printf("%s",SIMDIR); 05.01.29 # simdir != simver? 05.03.17 Join scott666_ [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 05.03.38 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.04.30 # LOL - whoops, sadly even printf("%s",SIMVER); fails 05.06.24 # hmm not sure 05.06.28 # getting offline for a few mins 05.06.30 # brb 05.06.32 Quit midk () 05.30.26 Join midk [0] (mk@ACC09DFB.ipt.aol.com) 05.37.59 # yo bc 05.38.09 # broken cord? 05.38.15 # oyah 05.39.18 Quit facted (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.40.02 # hm 05.40.04 # yo yo yo 05.40.08 # Wa SA wa SA 05.47.52 # I've just realised the worlds easiest fix for one of the sim bugs ...but buggered if I can work out how to do it! 05.48.17 # what/how? 05.48.35 # printf("%s",SIMVER); 05.48.48 # i got that to print "SIMVER" with 05.48.53 # #define makestr(s) (#s) 05.49.03 # but not getting any closer yet... 05.49.15 # I must be missing something soooo stupid 05.49.44 # well what is "simver" 05.49.46 # a define? 05.49.52 # env var 05.50.45 # although what I actually want is OBJDIR, which is declared -C on the make line 05.51.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.04.49 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208-251-255-120.res.evv.cable.sigecom.net) 06.05.14 Part tpelliott 06.06.41 Quit scott666_ ("i'll be back...eventually...") 06.06.51 Join scott666_ [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 06.07.09 Nick scott666_ is now known as scott666 (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 06.21.25 Join lostuser [0] (~jirc@cpe-24-165-61-18.hawaii.rr.com) 06.21.38 # hello? 06.21.46 # register? 06.21.46 # yo 06.21.51 # nevermind that 06.21.54 # ok 06.22.04 # i think i need some help 06.23.50 # i have an fm20 and i was wonderin how can i get some stuff onto it, like the stuff mentioned on the website like keyboard,search, and metronome 06.24.22 # keyboard? 06.24.32 # metronome? 06.24.36 # plugin bc. 06.24.44 # cool 06.24.49 # its funny 06.24.53 # the sound it makes 06.24.54 # its like 06.24.58 # cachk 06.24.58 # cachk 06.24.59 DBUG Enqueued KICK midk 06.24.59 # cachk 06.25.22 # you wanna field this Q? 06.25.28 # when i download the file, the extension says .c 06.25.41 # i's right in the daily build zip... 06.25.51 # "keyboard"... not sure what you mean 06.26.00 # i saw it somewhere 06.26.08 # there's a virtual keyboard 06.26.35 # how can i get it onto my jukebox so that i can use it? 06.26.48 # it's built in 06.27.07 # so... i have to go and install the daily build? 06.27.10 # lostuser: what did you download to begin with? 06.27.25 # heh yay scott to the reskue 06.28.01 # i downloaded something off of somewhere, i think it was in a message board 06.28.15 # uhhh 06.28.17 # ok 06.28.23 # lol 06.28.28 # what version of rockbox are you using? 06.28.32 # lol 06.28.45 # the one i downloaded today 06.28.57 # 11:31 PM> what version of rockbox are you using? 06.29.06 # let me check 06.29.14 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily/fmrecorder/rockbox-fmrecorder-20040419.zip 06.29.50 # version 2.2 06.30.16 # ok 06.30.33 # so if i install this onto my jukebox, it'll have all that stuff 06.30.58 # you'll jhave all that everybody else has 06.31.03 # if the stuff youre talking about is official 06.31.34 # ok... 06.31.43 # there could be 3rd party plugins elsewhere, but all you'd have to do is put them in \.rockbox\rocks\ 06.31.58 # where can i get those? 06.32.31 # if you find any, tell us :) 06.32.38 # ok 06.33.26 # another question, when i push some of the directional buttons on my fm recorder, sometimes the jukebox reacts as if i pushed one of the f buttons 06.34.00 # with the firmware you got from the link just now, or some other code? 06.34.30 # no the 2.2 firmware i origanally had 06.34.37 # you mean up/f2? 06.34.51 # yes 06.34.57 # i get that too 06.35.02 # kno why? 06.35.05 # also with down/right 06.35.14 # riight 06.35.44 # something with the an4 and an5 values on the FMs durring button presses 06.36.00 # any way to fix it? 06.36.05 # but its a hard bug to repeat, so i dont think any progress has been made 06.36.11 # any way? probably 06.36.44 # LinusN would be the person to talk to about it 06.37.54 # one more Q when i convert my videos and play them the audio is 3-4 seconds behind the video. kno any way to fix it? 06.38.10 # change one of the fps values 06.38.13 # sorry, dont use it 06.38.24 # i dont know which one cause i dont use it often 06.38.42 # my fmr is still waiting to be fixed...i think ill do it this week 06.38.42 # fps values? where do i do that? 06.38.54 # are you using the gui? 06.39.03 # gui? whats that 06.39.14 # how are you making your videos? 06.39.22 # will someone please tell this poor guy about our mailing list - LOL 06.39.30 # we have a mailing list! 06.39.37 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail 06.39.38 # shhh!! no we dont! 06.39.40 # yo yo yo 06.39.40 # WASA WASA 06.39.44 # i mean 06.39.47 # that page doesn't exist 06.39.51 # don't go there 06.39.58 # ok... 06.40.54 # there is a shed load of info on video creation in the logs 06.40.56 # i downloaded that tools thing and downloaded another LAME thing and i use that program that converts videos to make the videos 06.42.49 # for future reference: the rockbox site has a search box that will search the mailing list and IRC logs, as well as the rest of the pages on the site 06.43.18 # ok nevermind that question 06.43.27 # one last question. 06.43.42 DBUG Enqueued KICK BlueChip 06.43.42 # 01[05:37] one more Q 06.43.45 # lol 06.44.09 # are there any more open source firmwares like rockbox? 06.44.51 # millions, but none for this player afaik 06.45.32 # so.. rockbox is the only one for the archos jukeboxes? 06.45.45 # afaik 06.46.12 # afaik? what does that mean? 06.46.25 # acronymfinder.com yo 06.46.35 # aiight 06.46.40 # as far as i know 06.46.40 # (as far as i know) 06.46.46 # heh fine 06.46.48 # jinx 06.46.52 # *midk's work is done here 06.47.00 # thanks fo da help 06.47.14 # you got it dude - good luck :) 06.47.21 # I WILL RETURN...maybe 06.47.27 Quit lostuser ("Leaving") 06.47.27 # lol 06.49.07 # im hoping that: 1) he doesnt find this in the log, 2) he doesnt return 06.49.14 # LOL 06.49.39 # if( 1() ) 2(); 06.49.52 # er 06.49.55 # if( !1() ) 2(); 06.50.22 # why? 06.50.48 # i wouldn't return if i found that in the log 06.50.54 # lol 06.50.59 # what?? 06.51.01 # i was mostly kidding 06.51.02 # i'd feel bad and kill scott 06.51.06 # surrre 06.51.32 # lol 06.51.37 # I'm lost! 06.52.14 # if(!1) 2(); 06.52.16 # what's hard yo 06.52.40 # oh, sorry, *i* read that in humour 06.52.43 # lol 06.52.47 # sweet irony 06.52.54 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 06.53.07 # lol 06.56.55 # OT: ...maybe of amusement value... http://www2.memlane.com/jmilner/stairwaybackwards.htm 06.59.55 Join lostuser [0] (~jirc@cpe-24-165-61-18.hawaii.rr.com) 07.00.08 # (2) 07.00.30 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 07.00.41 # last question, i promise 07.00.50 # what is the VU meter? 07.00.55 # neat 07.00.58 # OH I HELPED 07.01.04 # lol bc 07.01.11 # c'mon please 07.01.12 # a plugin, just play some music and try it 07.01.26 # i know, but what's it do? 07.01.36 # 01just play some music 01and try it 07.01.51 # i did. what is it's purpose? 07.01.56 # its a vu meter 07.02.04 # ... 07.02.07 # what is a VU meter 07.02.14 # little lines that move in time with the music 07.02.15 # cant you tell 07.02.22 # doh bc you spoiled it 07.02.36 # that's it? 07.02.38 # http://www.google.com/search?q=vu+meter&sourceid=opera&num=50&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 07.02.48 # bc uses opera yay 07.02.50 # http://www.google.com/search?q=VU+meter 07.02.54 # damn you 07.02.54 # lol 07.03.06 # lol - how can you tell? 07.03.29 # &sourceud=opera 07.03.33 # lol 07.03.35 # *id 07.03.37 # d'oh! 07.03.50 # nnever looked 07.04.02 # me neither 07.04.04 # in opera you just type "g " in the url bar 07.04.31 # in mozilla theres a bar next to the url tha you type in 07.04.47 # opera will do that also 07.04.53 # hey do you think that there would be any way to make a tuner plugin? like a plugin that would tell you if a pitch is are sharp or flat? 07.04.58 # but loads of bars clutters the screen imho 07.05.02 # you can also search amazon, dictionary.com, ebay, and others 07.05.13 # i agree, but i wouldnt call 2 bars loads 07.05.30 # haha 07.05.41 # one for amazon, one for dicr, one for ebay, one for google 07.05.55 # i took off ebay dict and amazon 07.06.07 # i just kept google to the right of the address bar 07.06.11 # each to their own I suupose 07.06.21 # each to their face you mean 07.06.32 # i'm not going to get into the "My stuff is better than your stuff" debate 07.07.29 Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.08.00 # lol 07.08.01 # no, its not one for each 07.08.12 # theres an icon with what youre searching 07.08.26 # when you click it you get a drop-down of what site to search with 07.09.07 Quit lostuser ("Leaving") 07.09.56 # its pretty smooth imo 07.10.44 # OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 07.10.46 # he's on fire 07.11.00 # yes, opera also does that ;) 07.12.11 # ahh, but is opera OS? 07.12.21 # heh 07.12.22 # lol 07.12.31 # 07.15.30 # oyt yotyoawet'zhgfadl 07.19.14 # wow...thats crazy 07.19.17 # i know a porn star 07.19.31 # she goes to my school, ive had classes with her 07.19.49 # and this kid i know is a friend of hers and gave me a link to her site 07.19.49 # lol 07.20.11 # cool 07.20.15 # posters up at uni? 07.20.39 # private msg the link to me :) 07.20.58 # im in high school! thats whats funny 07.21.10 # hang on ... which makes you HOW old? 07.21.18 # <16? <18? 07.21.23 # yeah 07.21.27 # which? 07.21.42 # oh, i read it wrong 07.21.55 # though it said 16>me>18 07.21.56 # (as a Brit, I have no idea what "high" school is) 07.22.03 # yeah, fair call 07.22.12 # heh 07.22.16 # im 16, 17 this summer 07.22.31 # lol -so high school is 11...18? 07.22.38 # no 07.22.48 # lol 07.22.49 # more like 14-18 07.22.54 # righty 07.22.59 # so this is a paedophile site? 07.23.03 # no 07.23.05 # shes 18 07.23.12 # Riiiighht 07.23.22 # i thought it was "pedophile" 07.23.23 # so as a 16yr old, you share a class with an 18yr old? 07.23.36 # so she will be 19 by the end of the year 07.23.44 # making high school 14...19? 07.23.47 # unless she just turned 18. 07.23.55 # diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipsmart 07.23.59 # but scott is in the 16/17 year 07.24.12 # and bc spelled "pedo" wrong 07.24.17 # yeah that too 07.24.18 # shes in the 17/18 year 07.24.20 # LMAO 07.24.26 # but you share a class? 07.24.31 # Paedo 07.24.32 # you're in 16/17 class 07.24.35 # duh 07.24.38 # we did 07.24.39 # scott 16 and 17 07.24.41 # her 17 and 18 07.24.44 # 17 is common 07.24.45 # i think it was last year 07.24.45 # I wrote it in English (not American) 07.24.48 # its pedo bc 07.25.03 # search google for "paedophile" then for "pedophile" 07.25.07 # which returns more results huh huh 07.25.26 # 107,000 for paedo 07.25.28 # classes arent all age specific 07.25.32 # like 580,00 for pedo 07.25.36 # http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=paedophile 07.25.39 # 583,000* 07.25.44 # try pedophile too 07.25.48 # i had classes with seniors when i was a freshmen (programming) 07.25.59 # HAAAAAAA 07.26.01 # were they like 07.26.09 # hey dude show me how to make this for loop go 07.26.12 # do my homework for me 07.26.14 # and scotts like 07.26.15 # theyre were fuckin retarded 07.26.15 # yessir 07.26.31 # I don't care if you cant spell Colour Honour or Paedophile - it's what comes of not realising that Americans do not speak English ;) 07.26.45 # yo yo yo 07.26.45 # i did everything, people in my group watched, i finished early than any other group and we all played yahoo pool for a few weeks 07.26.51 # AHA 07.26.55 # i wanna work with scott 07.27.00 # woof 07.27.18 # *playing the backwards song over and over 07.27.20 # its so funny 07.27.49 # agadoo could be funny 07.27.50 # BlueChip: you still want taht link? 07.27.52 # lol 07.28.05 # yeah >16 in the UK anyway :) 07.28.31 # yo god dammit 07.28.36 # gonna kill this pc 07.28.42 # it took just like 30s to open the start menu 07.28.57 # win95? 07.29.02 # win3.11 07.29.14 # 3.11 didnt have a start menu... 07.29.20 # hahaha 07.29.23 # ooooooh 07.29.24 # DISS 07.29.30 # dammit 07.29.38 # took so long to open charmap i cant even remember why 07.30.44 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 07.31.28 # hmm 07.31.32 # BCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC 07.31.53 # m? 07.32.01 # yo yo yo 07.33.02 # help here? 07.33.15 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=796188 07.33.17 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@cpe-24-165-61-18.hawaii.rr.com) 07.33.19 # can you merge it to rockbox 07.33.32 # hello? 07.33.41 # hello! 07.33.52 # i have a question 07.33.59 # now there's a surprise 07.34.00 # lol 07.34.28 # when i convert my videos the audio is a little behind, any ideas how i can fix it? 07.34.54 # mk: not if it patches mpeg.c 07.35.01 # why not 07.35.12 # cos it's changed a million fold 07.35.37 # so what should i do? 07.35.53 # bc its easy 07.35.59 # just search for the string and you find the spot 07.36.01 # i dunnit 07.36.02 # yo yo yo 07.36.05 # it just doesnt work right 07.36.14 # jirc: stop chaging your login name in the hope that we don't see your IP address? 07.36.40 # if it's so easy, please dont ask for my time :( 07.36.50 # sry bc 07.36.52 # didnt mean that 07.37.01 # i just meant i did it twice tonight but both times it didnt work 07.37.01 # nm 07.37.32 # do you know how i can fix my vid program? 07.37.50 # mpeg.c has changed shed loads since last august - it may just not work anymore :( 07.37.55 # is guest tat other guy 07.37.59 # yeah 07.38.08 # jric@hawaii.rr.com 07.38.16 # jirc 07.38.19 # i forgot my othr name 07.38.25 # heh 07.38.32 # hey who lives in hawaii? 07.38.57 # 10[06:33] *** Guest (~jirc@cpe-24-165-61-18.hawaii.rr.com) has joined channel #rockbox01 07.39.17 # was that me? 07.39.22 # yeah 07.39.27 # ohh k 07.39.42 # 10[05:59] *** lostuser (~jirc@cpe-24-165-61-18.hawaii.rr.com) has joined channel #rockbox01 07.39.55 # he tried, that's what counts bc 07.40.10 # lol 07.40.13 # where was it that i could find some info? 07.40.18 # hes probably on the java client 07.40.25 # rockbox main page 07.40.27 # yes i be 07.40.32 # scott 07.40.36 # the search box on the left pane 07.40.37 # jirc == java client 07.40.40 # DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPSMART 07.40.54 # ok i'm off to bed 07.40.58 # well shower first 07.41.03 # you wash?????? 07.41.05 # eurgh 07.41.08 # lol 07.41.11 # only dirty people wash 07.41.12 # i mean 07.41.15 # um 07.41.19 # *thinks fast 07.41.27 # showering my stuffed animal 07.41.31 # oh... 07.41.31 # thanks again im gone fo real now. later 07.41.33 # he um fell in teh dirt 07.41.42 # who says he washes when hes in the shower? 07.41.49 # wash ...like it's mine and I'll wash it as fast as i like? 07.41.51 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 07.41.53 # sometimes thats the only place he can get 'privacy' 07.41.59 # stfu scott lol 07.42.02 # lol 07.42.07 # stuft animal i said 07.42.21 # please don't think of animals OR stuffing scott while you "wash" 07.42.34 Ctcp Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 1 day and 20 hours at the last flood 07.42.34 # * scott666 shudders 07.42.36 # stuffing scott eh 07.42.39 # good idea ty 07.42.48 # * scott666 shudders again 07.43.02 # not alll you'll be doing 07.43.05 # lol 07.43.13 # lol 07.43.19 # * scott666 shudders a third time 07.43.22 # LOL 07.43.46 # ...and then squints in that .....errr ..."tell-tale" manner 07.44.00 # thank god midk's too think to get it 07.44.05 # *thick 07.44.30 # midk and think should obvioulsly never be in the same sentence together 07.44.31 # *hopes bc will remove midk from bc's head before too long 07.44.48 # midk: its /me 07.44.50 # try it 07.45.00 # i don't like /me 07.45.03 # * scott666 types /me types /me 07.45.09 # no, none of us do really 07.45.12 # lol 07.45.30 # eatmy 07.45.33 # eatme* 07.46.04 # you want me to eat your "eatme" - mmmm, yummy 07.46.24 # oh yeah 07.46.27 # quickly 07.46.32 # you stole that phrase from me you bastard 07.46.34 # before i lose interest 07.46.41 # i steal nothing 07.46.45 # where is it? 07.47.03 # scott: pass me the tweezers 07.47.12 # if only i werent too lazy to go through the irc logs from 6 months- a year ago 07.47.29 # LOL 07.48.05 # * scott666 passes BlueChip a pair of tweezers 07.48.33 # make sure you get the kind with the sticky pads on the end 07.48.33 # * BlueChip utilises the tweezers and decides he is still hungry 07.48.40 # LOL 07.50.55 # lol 07.50.57 # ick... 07.51.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.51.56 # you see without the sticky pads you cannot grip as tightly or securely, thus sometimes you may not be able to get a good grasp of your target. in most cases with the pads installed you will get a firm grip every time 07.52.43 # lmao 07.52.49 # lmao 07.52.53 # idt midk has any idea whats going on 07.53.14 # no i'm blurting randomly hoping you don't notice i have NO idea 07.53.16 # either that or he has just developed an hilarious sense of humour 07.53.17 # what's going on. 07.53.23 # ooyah 07.53.57 # so youd want the sticky pads for things that are particularly tiny and hard to grasp? 07.54.12 # yes! 07.54.15 # precisely 07.54.38 # * scott666 exchanges BlueChip's tweezers for a pair with sticky pads 07.55.00 # thanks. it helps me too 07.55.10 # * BlueChip says thanks and claims to be going afk to "make a cup of tea" ...yeah right 07.55.16 # geh its like 11pm must leave now to... take no showers and go right to bed 07.55.25 # eirgh 07.55.28 # bc um eat tea 07.55.31 Quit midk ("tea tea tea") 07.55.31 # you're gonna go to bed dirty? 07.55.43 # brb 07.58.22 # bk 07.58.35 # those sticky pads really help :) 07.58.40 # lmao 07.58.46 # i cant belive he didnt get that 07.59.08 # lol 07.59.19 # gotta working sim atm? 08.00.30 # i can get one going...why? 08.00.47 # got a thing for you to look at obviously! 08.00.52 # lol 08.01.20 # is there new source? 08.01.47 # not sure, i've not updated online recently 08.01.58 # it's all framework driven now 08.01.59 # last ones from 4/16 08.02.09 # i was gonna send u a .rock 08.02.18 # that works too 08.03.19 # dcc doesnt work between us...remember? 08.03.45 # oh yeah 08.03.49 # well, I do now! 08.03.55 # its a sim rock 08.06.29 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D1711.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.08.30 # is it supposed to do things? or just look interesting 08.08.38 # the latter 08.08.53 # atm 08.09.03 # thatd be the reason i couldnt figure out how to play it 08.09.03 # heh 08.09.30 # it looks great! 08.09.47 # that;s all done with the framework code 08.09.53 # considering the resolution we have to work with at least 08.11.03 # im off now - l8rz all 08.11.10 Nick BlueChip is now known as bc|busy (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 08.11.10 DBUG Enqueued KICK bc|busy 08.11.10 # will this final rock be all inclusive? or will here be solitaire.rock, rummy.rock, crazy8s.rock, etc? 08.11.30 # *there 08.11.42 # atm - one rock per game 08.11.58 # but a friend has an idea for a rules driven solitaire engine 08.12.09 # cause depending on how easy it is to make a new game, they could add up fast 08.12.50 # the hard bit is AI for other games 08.13.04 # only solitaire and casino games can be easily simulated 08.13.46 # yeah 08.14.14 # cause the dealer has hard rules in blackjack, no need for AI 08.14.43 # hmmm 08.14.49 # you got it 08.14.54 # well im gonna go too 08.15.04 # l8er 08.15.14 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 08.15.21 Part bc|busy 09.00.41 Nick amiconn is now known as amiconn|away (~jens@pD95D1711.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.00.41 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.07.13 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 09.15.58 Join pfavr [0] (pfavr@dyna218-105.nada.kth.se) 09.29.14 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 09.33.09 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D1ABC.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.36.05 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.49.17 Join Unknown [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 09.51.47 Quit amiconn|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.51.47 Nick amiconn is now known as amiconn|away (~jens@pD95D1ABC.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.51.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.55.44 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.55.45 Nick Unknown is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 10.14.02 Quit [1]c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.21.29 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 10.32.28 Quit c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.32.30 Nick [1]c0utta is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 10.32.52 Nick amiconn|away is now known as amiconnwork (~jens@pD95D1ABC.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.33.01 Part amiconnwork 10.34.01 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D1ABC.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.34.35 Nick amiconn is now known as amiconn|work (~jens@pD95D1ABC.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.40.27 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 10.43.01 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.19.53 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~c2af7555@reladm.kharkov.net) 11.19.53 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.20.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi LinusN, thanks for rmdir(), that was definitely beyond my scope. 11.22.08 Join bc|busy [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 11.22.27 Nick bc|busy is now known as BC (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 11.22.52 # Linus, can I ask you a couple of preprocessor questions please? 11.23.26 # or, having just looked at the list, there may be others in who could help :) 11.23.57 Quit MT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.34.53 Join uski [0] (~moo@gandalf.digital-network.org) 11.36.38 Join monkey [0] (monkey@1Cust20.tnt1.mount-vernon.wa.da.uu.net) 11.41.49 # BC: shoot 11.41.53 # [IDC]Dragon: you're welcome 11.42.33 # Linus: I've been thinking. How about enabling F3+on in WPS to do the "follow playlist" action? 11.42.40 # 1. how do I (example) "printf" an environment variable? 11.43.22 # BC: main() usually gets three arguments 11.43.44 # int main(int argc, char *argv[], char *env[]); 11.44.37 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 11.44.37 # * BC thinks... 11.44.45 # better example maybe... 11.45.08 # what if I wanted to print SIMVER from within my plugin? 11.45.36 # printf("%s\n", SIMVER); 11.45.54 # if SIMVER is a constant string 11.46.02 # or printf(SIMVER) 11.46.08 # how is simver defined? 11.46.18 # errr, by configure I think 11.47.04 # yes, configure, on line 34 11.47.17 # SIMVER=win32 11.47.26 # simver="win32" 11.47.58 # as far as i can see, SIMVER isn't used... 11.48.28 Join track [0] (58c3a1b6@ACBA31BC.ipt.aol.com) 11.48.33 # oining 11.48.36 # morning 11.48.38 # I've concluded a blindingly simple fix for the "browse_root" problem on the win32sim 11.48.50 # ah 11.49.00 # hi track 11.49.18 # hi linusn 11.49.21 # long time no see 11.49.26 # #if SIMVER==win32 11.49.26 # dirbrowse(OBJDIR) 11.50.18 # BC: i want a "sandbox" model for the simulated file/dir functions 11.50.21 # which leads nicely to .... Why does EVERY #if xxx=yyy render true? 11.51.05 # the above fix means that you do not need to simulate those functions 11.51.13 # hence "blindingly simple" 11.51.16 # LinusN when plugging in the USB on the charging screen sometimes the device freeezes 11.51.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.51.56 # every #if XXX==yyy is true? 11.52.20 # #define STARTDECK SOLITAIRE 11.52.27 # track: it does? 11.52.35 # #if (STARTDECK==CANASTA) 11.53.09 # true! 11.53.21 # yes 11.54.31 # BC: and how are SOLITAIRE and CANASTA defined? 11.54.43 # you need to define them, or they get the same NIL value 11.54.56 # Riiiiiiight 11.55.10 # #define SOLITAIRE 0 11.55.10 # #define CANASTA 1 11.55.15 # think numbers not strings! 11.55.18 # :) 11.55.20 # thank you 11.55.33 # track: can you see a pattern? 11.55.53 # no 11.55.57 # hmmm 11.56.05 # this is on v2.2 11.56.41 # track: please try the latest, although i don't think it is much different 11.57.25 # ok 11.57.47 # linusN is it also possible to remove the flashed version of rockbox should you wish? 11.57.54 # yes 11.58.01 # how do you do it? 11.58.09 # LInus: So is it possible to print the Rockbox "OBJDIR" from within a compiled rockbox plugin 11.58.13 # just run the firmware_flash plugin with the original image as input 11.58.29 # whats the original image? 11.58.31 # is there a native enlish speaker hee willing to help me with an english letter i had to write ? i wrote a little text and I would like to be sure it contains no huge english errors 11.58.39 # (i know, i'm offtopic ;)) 11.58.47 # BC: yes, if it is passed as a #define with the -D compiler switch 11.59.16 # will see what rockbox does in a moment... 12.02.48 # dammit no :( ...it is only passed to make as a -C pram - oh well :( 12.10.21 Quit monkey () 12.14.14 # is it reasonable to request that the OBJDIR is passed to gcc during Rockbox compile? 12.15.32 # why not do it like the x11 version? 12.15.57 # cos it's needless 12.16.09 # work for the sake of creating it 12.16.49 # and as for over-riding core functions with #defines buried in header files - well, the less said about that the better - LOL 12.19.02 # so all you need is to pass OBJDIR? 12.19.26 # and the mod i mentioned above (two lines) 12.19.39 # the thing is that OBJDIR == "." 12.20.00 # lol -oh yes 12.21.51 # cool - that's fixed one problem then :) 12.23.48 # BC: all internal functions use absolute paths 12.24.01 # like when looking for .playlist_control 12.24.11 Quit track ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 12.24.12 # it looks for /.rockbox/.playlist_control 12.24.28 # so dirbrowse(OBJDIR) only "solves" one problem 12.24.34 # cute 12.24.47 # oh well, my intentions were in the right place 12.24.54 # sure 12.42.12 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 12.51.57 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make (EOF)") 12.59.20 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~c2af7555@reladm.kharkov.net) 12.59.52 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 13.03.40 Part LinusN 13.22.11 # u there uski ? 13.34.49 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stz-softwaretechnik.com) 13.46.14 Join mattzz [0] (~c2af7556@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 13.51.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.10.42 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 14.32.34 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.32.36 Nick [1]c0utta is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 14.34.12 # Any Sony EX70/71 users out there? 14.38.03 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 14.38.54 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make (EOF)") 14.44.50 Quit c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.44.51 Nick [1]c0utta is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 14.49.04 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 14.49.06 Quit webmind (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.50.28 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.57.38 Join webmind [0] (~cme2@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 14.59.31 Quit c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.02.12 Join c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 15.07.51 Join Unknown [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 15.09.52 Quit [1]c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.13.16 Quit c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.13.18 Nick Unknown is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 15.48.57 Join snurrebass4 [0] (~few@m1-gr4-3.testlab.aitel.hist.no) 15.49.57 # hello! I cant seen to find a search function in rockbox. is there any at all? 15.50.58 # i believe there is a patch, but it is not afaik in the current build 15.51.19 # i see 15.51.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.58.57 # this patch is rather complicated. anyone know if a search function will be implemented in a future version? 15.59.47 # have you tried applying the patch? 16.02.11 # nope but I read you have to type in a linux search string for each search. 16.03.00 # :( regualr expressions are horrible 16.03.09 # (unless you know them) 16.03.12 # id really like something more userfriendly 16.03.27 # hehe...was that irony? 16.03.33 # lol 16.04.01 # well, the old adage applies, it will be added when someone who can program wants it 16.04.08 # sorry 16.04.29 # hm. yes..i see...thank you for your time! 16.04.40 # sorry I could not be of more help 16.04.48 Part snurrebass4 16.09.52 Join bobTHC [0] (~bob@AMarseille-207-1-6-124.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.10.08 # hi folks! 16.11.39 # delta 8 or delta 9? 16.12.47 # or perhaps aren't familair with THC molecular compositions? 16.13.11 # 16.13.15 # hello bobTHC 16.14.28 # hi 16.14.39 # I trust you are 16.14.46 # lol 16.14.50 # sorry i'm too high ;) 16.16.23 # can i be of any technical assistance 16.25.46 # no thx. 16.44.11 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.47.39 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 16.50.41 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.57.44 Part BC 17.00.57 Join facted [0] (~facted@dyn-ec-194-77.dyn.columbia.edu) 17.05.07 Join Ralle[DK] [0] (~Ralle@129.142.195.95.ip.tele2adsl.dk) 17.05.26 # what changes is in the newest rockbox? 17.19.12 # many, e.g. talk features 17.19.26 # speed enhancements 17.19.30 # plugins 17.21.21 # BTW: what do you mean with "newest"? 2.2 or CVS? 17.25.55 Nick amiconn|work is now known as amiconn|away (~jens@pD95D1ABC.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.32.22 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a4321e.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 17.49.20 Quit mattzz ("CGI:IRC") 17.52.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.09.57 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/1]") 18.11.49 Nick amiconn|away is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD95D1ABC.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.31.50 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 18.32.34 # bye all 18.32.36 Part bobTHC 18.38.03 # cvs 18.39.29 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.12.02 Join klando [0] (~klando@AToulouse-206-1-6-191.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.14.08 # hi is the rockbox driver work for gemini120 ? Or is there any drivers that enable the display of progressive-jpeg ? 19.17.16 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html 19.17.20 # 3. What is Rockbox? What is it's purpose? 19.17.26 # The purpose of this project is to write an Open Source replacement firmware for the Archos Jukebox 6000, Studio 20 and Recorder MP3 players. 19.17.29 # ergo no 19.19.55 # i don't know of any alternative firmware for the gemini 19.20.23 # but then again, i didnt know of rockbox a few months ago :) 19.21.30 # ok thXs 19.21.38 # rockbox is 100000 times better than original archos... 19.22.12 # ht 19.22.17 # about the application and others, perhaps it is portable, if i found something to make gemini work whith rockbox 19.23.47 Join Laurent_ [0] (~laurent@dyn-83-154-73-122.ppp.tiscali.fr) 19.23.58 # Hi 19.26.03 # hi 19.26.18 # ok thXs all , bye 19.26.21 Quit klando ("A+") 19.52.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.18.20 Join deadite66 [0] (~Miranda@cpc1-yarm1-5-0-cust53.pete.cable.ntl.com) 20.20.15 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 20.22.27 # hello world! 20.29.00 Quit c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.29.20 Nick [1]c0utta is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 20.39.44 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 20.41.32 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.41.52 Join ricflair [0] (ricflair@modem580.netkonect.net) 20.41.58 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 20.42.02 # hi all ive just got a jukebox recorder 20 20.43.54 # ANYONE HERE 20.45.01 # nope :) 20.45.21 # :) 20.45.43 # i didnt get a cable with it though, or charger. is there anyway i can make these or user alternatives? 20.49.03 # the usb cable and power supply are pretty standard stuff, you should be able to buy them online 20.49.03 # the usb cable is A-A cable 20.49.29 # im just worried seeing as archos claim that you can ruin it with the wrong ones 20.49.31 # the psu is 9v 600ma centre positive 20.49.42 # quite exited about getting it running 20.50.08 # i have a power adapter at home~(im in the uk) with different connections and also selectable voltage, do you think that would work? 20.51.47 # thats archos just covering themselves 20.51.47 # yes just make sure you have the correct settings, having the polarity wrong will blow the chaging ic 20.52.04 Quit AciD ("Connection reset by beer") 20.52.18 # :( so make sure its 9 volt, and that the connection fits right. and a standard a-a cable should work. Thanks 20.52.27 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 20.52.30 # is it a good machine? the jukebox recorder 20 20.52.39 # i got it for 45 pounds today 20.53.10 # with rockbox it certainly is 20.53.10 # £45 good price 20.54.14 # with luck you should also be able to flash rockbox 20.57.08 # any other questions you can ask here 20.57.08 # http://newmp3technology.net/forum/index.php 20.57.08 # i'm one of the moderators ;) 20.57.13 # cool, what does rockbox offfer to make it better. ? how long should i expect the battery to last 20.57.19 # oops sorry missed that last line. 20.57.28 # cant wait to flash it 20.58.16 # their is a comparison here http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/features.html 20.59.02 # cool, how the hell can you play back video? and is flashing easy@ 20.59.56 # would this cable be ok www.aria.co.uk/ProductInfoComm.asp?ID=97 21.00.28 # yep, thats the one 21.00.49 # excellent, thank you. 21.01.13 # you have to convert the video to a special .rvf format 112x64 in size 21.01.28 # what does it look like? is there any screenshots? 21.01.38 # rockbox looks to me like, well , it rocks :) 21.01.41 # as long as you follow the instructions flashing is easy enough 21.02.34 # can't think of any site with video pictures 21.02.54 # cant wait. it looks like it was a bargain for 45 pounds. 21.02.57 # it was at an auction 21.06.28 # is it possibvle to make your own usb a a cable from 2 usb extention cables 21.07.26 # i'm sure you could 21.08.21 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.08.25 # not sure if i should try, dont want to damage it 21.15.54 Join deathsc0ut|Delir [0] (none@pD9E2AD1D.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.16.13 DBUG Enqueued KICK deathsc0ut|Delir 21.16.13 # 15H14ello together 21.17.14 # Sumbody there? 21.17.20 # i am :) 21.17.28 # 15H14e 15H14e 15H14e good 21.17.44 *** Alert Mode level 1 21.17.44 # Hmmm I will ask a question 15:14) 21.17.54 # i wont know mate, im very new 21.18.02 # hrm 21.18.08 # duumb 21.18.12 # Nobody else there? 21.18.21 # me 21.18.42 *** Alert Mode level 2 21.18.42 # 15A14hhh great 21.19.38 *** Alert Mode level 3 21.19.38 # So I will ask now - I sent my ajbr to archos because its 15H14appy 15D14ay was damaged and today they sent me an email where they said that repairing would cost 120 €, because the ajb fall on the ground and so they would accept the warranty 21.20.13 *** Alert Mode level 4 21.20.13 # And now I stand upon the decision if I should let them repair it and exchange the 15H14appy 15D14ay or if I should let them send it back and insert a 15H14appy 15D14ay myself 21.20.19 Join Uncl_Bob [0] (~nunya@164.57.240.79) 21.20.20 # hrm happy day 21.20.20 *** Alert Mode level 5 21.20.20 # 15{14{ 15£14åügHîñg 15Ø14üt 15£14öüÐ 15}14} shit 21.20.25 # hard drive 21.20.25 # *g* 21.21.17 Quit Uncl_Bob (Client Quit) 21.23.50 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 21.25.42 # deadite are ya gone? 21.27.47 Quit deadite66 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.28.19 # 'looks like he's dead ;) 21.28.28 # jep 21.28.36 # Could you answer my question? 21.29.00 # call in bruce campbell 21.29.38 Join BC [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 21.29.50 *** Alert Mode level 6 21.29.50 # Hmm bruce campbell 15?14¿ whos that? 21.29.57 Nick BC is now known as BC|coding (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 21.31.19 # hes the guy that slays the deadites 21.33.52 # deathsc0ut|Delir: was it only the hard drive that was broken? 21.34.09 # I think it was 21.34.27 # It kind of slammed against a door while walkin because I had it in my jacket 21.34.34 # if it was, replacing the hard drive is relatively simple 21.35.10 *** Alert Mode level 7 21.35.10 # 15Y14eah and I could get a 40 gig hard drive for the same money 21.35.19 # but it could also be that some other components are damaged 21.35.24 # sure 21.35.34 # Well do you have a good tutorial for the recorder 21.35.49 # how to replace the hard drive? 21.35.54 # jep 21.36.00 *** Alert Mode level 8 21.36.00 # Opening should be 15n14o prob 21.36.13 *** Alert Mode level 9 21.36.13 # because I already have a tutorial from your site 15:14) 21.36.59 # http://www.mctubster.com/hd.html 21.38.17 *** Alert Mode level 10 21.38.17 # 15W14ow big thx to you 21.40.47 # oops sorry, had no sounds so didn't see the messages scroll 21.40.51 # let me read 21.41.31 # can someone talk a bit for a test please ? ;) 21.41.46 # . 21.41.49 # . 21.41.55 DBUG Enqueued KICK BC|coding 21.41.55 # . 21.42.00 # . 21.42.00 # great, no sounds at all, I just love hits 21.42.04 # this 21.42.06 # bla bla 21.42.12 # thanks anyway 21.42.13 # :) 21.44.54 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.45.37 # why do I always have to fight linux to get sounds ? 21.47.57 # [generic rtfm comment] 21.48.18 *** Alert Mode OFF 21.48.19 # heh 21.48.32 # you should work on that - you could turn it into a joke 21.48.35 # LOL 21.48.40 # sound ! 21.49.12 # scott666: no way about the rtfm, I did not change a bit and now I hear sounds again 21.49.14 # ;) 21.49.17 # Was gonna say, I'll trade you my sound for your OS 21.49.31 # this computer is just plain cursed if you let me tell you 21.49.33 # ;) 21.49.34 # heh 21.49.50 # did you put the case on it? ...always fatal in my expereince 21.50.12 # actually I killed all zombies instances of xine still running 21.50.16 # no, its the thumb-screws 21.50.34 # it looks like linux apps don't love sharing the sound 21.50.41 # put the thumb-screws back in and youll never get anything to work ever 21.51.22 # scott666: I had that one once, open the case -> works, close -> doesnt, do it for a hundred times and eventually it works with the case closed 21.51.51 # it's just a matter of showing the gremlins that they'll tire before you do :) 21.52.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.52.31 # Laurent_: on a mildly serious note, I found that squishing bulgy cables into the case was a mistake I must have made too often 21.52.55 # BC|coding: it must be done carefully indeed 21.53.29 # hum, wait, you spoke and I heard no sound 21.53.42 # beep 21.53.55 # boing 21.53.59 # hum, must have not paid attention, seems they are there again 21.54.20 # let me see if I can play music at the same time 21.55.06 # can someone speak please (last one I promise) ? 21.55.28 # moo 21.55.34 # quack 21.55.45 # baduggereggerggerggegrggerggger 21.55.54 # (that was my "ruler" impression) 21.56.02 # argh, xmms does not share 21.56.31 # anyone know how to make an usb a-a cable from 2 usb cables 21.56.57 # did I tell you how much I *hated* linux as far as sounds are concerned ? 21.57.10 # wire strippers + soldering iron? 21.57.12 # ricflair: solder the wires together? 21.57.33 # lunusn, i mean what cables go to which ones and is it as simple as that? 21.57.42 # you just need to cross input and output, I think they are the middle ones 21.57.48 # don't cross 21.57.52 # do you know anyone has tried this? 21.57.53 # just make it straight 21.57.54 # LinusN: are you sure ? 21.58.01 # pretty sure 21.58.02 # dont want to knacker up my archos, only got it today 21.58.10 # then don't cross ;) 21.58.30 # i'd buy an AA cable 21.58.44 # easier and safer 21.58.47 # i know, but i want one now and cant get one from a store till tomorrow afternoon 21.59.06 # it didn't include a cable? 21.59.39 # no, i got the bare unit at an auction. only cost me 45 quid (the archos jukebox recorder 20) 22.00.06 # allright 22.01.11 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9E34A37.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.01.51 # ricflair: I happen to have an AA cable, will test the wiring with a continuity tester for you. Just give me some mins 22.02.47 # thank you 22.03.41 # amiconn: i did that a few weeks ago 22.04.26 Quit deathsc0ut|Delir ("« Ë×Çü®§îöñ » Info-[v9.4.22]- Released-[August 19, 2002]- Channel-[#Excurs") 22.04.56 # great 22.05.33 # OSS access is not shared amongst apps, so no sound in gaim if you use xmms or xine in parallel 22.05.45 # (off topic I know) 22.06.01 # sorry, I had to say it :( 22.06.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> 'evening guys 22.06.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> I have a question to Linux users: 22.07.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> is is really not advisable to have a file starting with ~ 22.07.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> ? 22.07.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> is it 22.07.32 # [IDC]Dragon: I guess I can't hide ? ;) 22.07.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> huh, why? 22.07.47 # [IDC]Dragon: let me try 22.07.49 Join pfavr [0] (pfavr@t1o61p257.telia.com) 22.08.07 # [IDC]Dragon: I just ranted about my linux 5 s ago ;) 22.08.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> ah. 22.08.23 # laurent@antarctique:laurent> touch "~hop" 22.08.30 # laurent@antarctique:laurent> ls 22.08.30 # Disk.info GNUstep Outils bin local scripts tmp web_site ~hop 22.08.30 # Documents Mail Program Files liste.bz2 outils teleir torrents win_drives 22.08.36 # causes no problem 22.08.36 # ricflair: I can confirm what Linus said: The USB AA cable is straight through. 22.08.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> it tried in cygwin, found neither. 22.09.00 # cool, so just match the same colors to the same colors 22.09.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> I tried 22.09.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> (typo day) 22.09.36 # [IDC]Dragon: prepending a file name with ~ is perfectly possible, but i'd still not recommend it 22.09.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK, why not? 22.10.20 # [IDC]Dragon: it's a quite common abbreviation for /home/xxx/ 22.10.31 # as said on the mailing list, ~ is a shortcut to the home directory 22.10.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> wouldn't that be ~/xxx ? 22.10.48 # no 22.10.53 # ~ is my home dir 22.10.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> (whatever you store in xxx ;-) 22.11.01 # [IDC]Dragon: ~/ is /home/username/ 22.11.04 # ~olle is olle's home dir 22.12.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> well, but is there a practical drawback to have such files on your JBR? 22.12.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> like, you can't move them, delete them, whatever? 22.14.00 # no, only if you have a linux script that doesn't properly quote the file names 22.14.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> what would happen then? 22.14.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> (sorry to be a pest) 22.15.24 # it may try to access another person's home dir and fail (i guess there are no user called dirname.talk in any system in the world :-) 22.15.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> ;-) 22.16.08 # LinusN: I would not bet ;) 22.17.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> I still see big benefit in having the ~ name for it's sorting to the end. 22.17.28 # i can see the benefit, yes 22.17.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> So I'm not giving up too soon ;-) 22.17.55 # [IDC]Dragon: why are windows users so reluctant to use .dirname ? 22.18.21 # because it is impossible to create a file with no filename throught the GUI 22.18.22 # I just don't get it, as a linux/windows user I'd prefer the .dirname 22.18.59 # Laurent_: because Explorer refuses to create files beginning with a period 22.19.00 Nick BC|coding is now known as BC|eating (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 22.19.00 DBUG Enqueued KICK BC|eating 22.19.04 # BC|coding: are you sure of this ? I never had this problem 22.19.10 # positive 22.19.20 # Laurent_: being hungry? :-) 22.19.35 # just cooked a curry 22.19.37 # :) 22.19.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> I liked the dot, too. 22.19.53 # BC|eating: only the curry ? must be light ;) 22.19.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> although being a Windoze user. 22.20.24 # let me switch that windows box on 22.20.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> As a courtesy to the Linus users, where it's a hidden file. 22.20.59 # Windows has a really strange concerning directory sorting - it does not use ASCII order. It even uses different sorting rules in different places, so I would never count on Windows to put something consistently at the beginning/end or a listing. 22.21.09 Quit ricflair (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.21.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> I barely use the Explorer for file manipulation. 22.21.29 # [IDC]Dragon: but most windows l00sers do 22.21.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> perfectly understood. 22.22.03 # LinusN: hey, my parents are in this group ! ;) 22.22.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> that's why we have that debate. 22.22.55 # One char that can be used to put a file at the top most of the time is the exclamation point. 22.23.05 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/1]") 22.23.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> we want it at the bottom 22.23.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> where it won't dispurb the order of "regular" tracks. 22.24.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> So if a blind user has the file number announce on, he will get the album track number. 22.25.32 # oops, seems it's true... guess I never tried 22.26.23 # I did not find a char to put a file at the end consistently (Other than using the last ISO 8859-1 char: ÿ). The ~ doesn't put it at the end either, it comes even before the letters! 22.26.27 Join ricflair [0] (ricflair@modem-rack10-206.netkonect.net) 22.26.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: I was talking about rockbox ordering. 22.27.57 Join mattzz [0] (~mattzz@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.28.07 # I think it can be quite confusing if the file is shown at different positions in Windows explorer (if you list the Archos drive) and Rockbox itself. 22.28.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> do we want to mimic Windows' strange ordering then? 22.29.19 # the file shouldnt be shown by rockbox for normal users in the first place though, should it? 22.29.45 # I think not; I am for keeping the dot, so it does not show up in Rockbox (unless you set it to "all"). 22.30.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> scott666: I woudn't hide it in the "show all files" mode. 22.30.29 # would most users have 'show all' on though? 22.30.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: that's not a property of the dot, but the extension. 22.30.44 # what voltage power supply should i use for my archos jukebox 20 22.30.57 # 6V 700mah iirc 22.31.15 # wrong 22.31.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> for FM and V2: 6V, else 9V 22.31.19 # 9v 22.31.47 # polarity is also important, but i cant remember which is the correct way 22.31.50 # so v9 for the jukebox recorder 20? thanks. also what connection? 22.32.01 # center positive 22.32.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> center positive 22.32.04 # [IDC]Dragon: You are right, but since it was also hidden at the time it was called .dirname.mp3, it is also a property of the dot to hide files in Rockbox. 22.32.05 # :_) 22.32.07 # can it damage my jukebox 22.32.21 # yes 22.32.23 # what is center posotive, is that posotive to posotive or the other way around 22.32.30 # make sure you have the right polarity 22.32.31 # how do i make sure i dont damage it 22.32.38 # is Bjorn Stenberg coming here sometime ? 22.32.48 # not very often nowadays 22.33.00 # why? 22.33.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> because he'd have a strong opinion about naming talkbox clips? 22.33.43 Join amansinger [0] (~sdf@CPE002078cb70cf-CM400049338187.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.33.52 # how can i make sure i have the right polarisation? on my adapter it has a 2 pin end with an attatchment that has entry points for the 2 pins, how od i know which way around it goes 22.34.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi amansinger! 22.34.01 # I'm working again on the gmini firmware, since he managed to guess the unpacking algorythm for the av models I wondered if I could try to apply it to the gmini's 22.34.31 Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.34.41 # Hi, IDC 22.35.01 # Laurent_: bjorn at haxx dot se 22.35.10 # I'm writing the mail ;) 22.35.34 # Hey, IDC, do you have a second? 22.35.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> Laurent_: recently I've sent a "customer" your way. 22.35.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: yes? 22.36.23 # Sorry to bug you with this, but I'm wondering how far you are with Talkbox in general 22.36.25 # [IDC]Dragon: which ones ? I got three the last days ! May be they breeded ? ;) 22.36.54 # amansinger: try it out and you'll find out 22.36.54 # IDC: as you may know, I'd very much like to write the docs for it, but don't want to start before you're finished, so I can get everything in. 22.36.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: what do you mean, how far? 22.37.18 # I mean, is it complete? Do you have anything else in the pipe that 22.37.37 # may change the docs substancially? 22.37.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: I don't expect much more to come, do you? 22.38.10 # how do i make sure that the adapter is posotive central 22.38.22 # ricflair: with a multimeter 22.38.37 # light bulb & a diode 22.38.41 # oh god i dont have one of those 22.39.05 Nick BC|eating is now known as BC (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 22.39.05 DBUG Enqueued KICK BC 22.39.19 # I don't think there's very much left. I mean you're obviously not going to get the games talking . Perhaps some of the rocks as to flashing and/or stopwatch, any way to read the recording metre... There doesn't seem to be much else 22.39.36 # what will happen if i plug it in and its not central posotive 22.39.41 # bag 22.39.43 # bang 22.39.47 # [IDC]Dragon: As you mention talkbox - you told recently that you did some research concerning the "swallowing" of the beginning of clips if they are switched. 22.39.51 # would central posotive be + to - or + to + 22.40.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: I still do 22.40.11 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se) 22.40.21 # hola Bagder 22.40.26 # hi ho 22.40.36 # I would like to know at which point you captured the byte stream, since you told that the frame structure you got was correct. Did you capture the serial data going to the mas, or at some earlier point. 22.40.48 # ? 22.41.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: I logged what I have transferred via DMA. 22.41.32 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: No real measurement. 22.41.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: But give me a minute with amansinger. 22.42.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: There are a couple of "wishes" left, but they'd be hard to achieve. 22.43.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> Like, localized number speaking, localized spelling of special chars, recording beep. 22.44.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't have the intention to make Rockbox fully usable up to the very last corner without vision. 22.45.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> So take the voice UI as what it is, some help to certain extent, but I'm not aiming for 100% accessibility. 22.45.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> (Sorry to maybe disappoint) 22.47.07 # Oh, BTW, I have confirmation that Archos is using linux for its future projects 22.47.19 # (read a thread about it during CeBit time) 22.47.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> Laurent_: I've had that unit in my hands. 22.47.52 # a friend of mine accidentaly got in contact with the developer and talks regularly with him 22.48.00 # IDC: you have most of it accessible at the moment. The rest seems to be cosmetic. 22.48.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> The AV500. 22.48.25 # even the current AV models would be nice with linux 22.48.53 # [IDC]Dragon: I guess it looks like a full fledged PDA ? 22.49.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> The AV500 is much nicer in form factor. 22.49.32 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes, like an Ipaq. 22.50.12 # Apparentely there's still no usb master though... 22.50.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes it does. 22.50.42 # [IDC]Dragon: huh ? do you mean they finally understood ? great ;) 22.50.44 Quit amansinger () 22.51.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> It's got 2 USB port, one is a slave, the other one a full fledged master. 22.51.20 # clever 22.51.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> Oops, we scared poor Aman. 22.51.29 Join amansinger [0] (~sdf@CPE002078cb70cf-CM400049338187.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.51.36 # usb otg can solve that with one port 22.51.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hello again! 22.52.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder: but the full port supports multiple devices. 22.52.08 # [IDC]Dragon: let's just hope they won't price it much too higher than a PDA 22.52.29 # IDC: sorry about that. Mirc decided it was time to quit, and it, rather than I, controls the IRC connection. Anyhow, as I was trying to say... 22.53.13 # amansinger: I suggest you use gaim instead of mirc, much more practical and secure 22.53.25 # Do you anticipate any changes in how to install/remove/enable/disable the UI at the moment. 22.53.43 # *coughTRILLIANcough* 22.54.07 # scott666: so they finally made it GPL compliant ? ;) 22.54.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: No. 22.54.14 # *ehrrmXChat*hrrm* 22.54.33 # LinusN: does it exist under windows ? 22.54.39 # yup 22.54.53 # www.xchat.org 22.55.01 # 'didn't know, i'm one neuron smarter ;) 22.55.53 # [IDC]Dragon: I am asking (talkbox clip problem) because I have some ideas what might cause the problem. 22.55.54 # Right, thanks. Hope to have it done by late next week, and then someone can insert any LCD screens that need to be inserted. 22.56.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: Thank you very much. 22.57.50 # Thanks again, and as always for your work. You haven't gotten full accessibility, but you have made what is, basically, the first even partially accessible player. As I may have said before, all we have is CD/Flash based units which range from twice the price of the archos to around 5 times its price. Very good work indeed. 22.58.33 Quit uski ("Fermeture du client") 22.58.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: Your're welcome. 22.59.11 Join c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 22.59.20 # I have no jukebox but the voice ui is certainly a great idea indeed 22.59.44 # think rockbox will get /.ed again when 2.3 comes out with the voice UI? 22.59.58 # scott666: I hope so ! 23.00.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: The "missing" parts are not so much laziness, but points where it would become very hairy are have a high cost (=code size). 23.01.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: And there's always the problem that we can't play clips while playing, recording, or even paused. 23.02.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> somebody suggested flipping some MAS bit instead that creates a click, possibly a beep when done rapidly, but this is a very special case. 23.02.53 Quit methangas (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 23.03.07 # As I said, most of them are cosmetic (OK, cosmetic for me, an English speaker who's able to hold the unit in a hand when recording and feel the drive spin up when I hit play). The only thing I'd like to see (OK, here we go again...), is a key to spell. Going step by step through a file looking for one specific file is great, but it would be nice to wiz along hearing file 1, 2, etc, and then hit something and hear th 23.03.09 Quit Ralle[DK] (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 23.03.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> (no volume control, depends an which MAS, may have side effects, needs a timer, etc.) 23.04.10 # amansinger: after reading the blind users posts on the list I wondered if there are any "braille" LCD on the market ? 23.05.16 Quit mattzz ("Client exiting") 23.05.17 # When would this beep/click be spoken? As I said, with recording, and with most operations actually (bookmarking too), you can feel the disk spin up and save if you have a hand on the unit 23.05.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> amansinger: this "spell key" may easily come. 23.06.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> Either with the customizable F2/F3, or by using stop. 23.06.24 Quit Bagder ("Leaving") 23.06.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm sortof waiting for the customizable menus. 23.06.45 # Laurent: Yes and no. Not an LCD, but there is a braille display. It's usually linear (I've heard stories about one that takes up five or six lines but never seen one, one of those things that's always on the way :) The roblem with them is they cost $50 a cell (cell = letter), and break easily, as well as being hard to install 23.07.38 # Ahh, I see. I thought that had died somehow. 23.08.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> LinusN: Do you read? How about the stop key while browsing? 23.08.58 # Will the customizable menu allow key mapping? For example, I couldn't care less about F3 quick menu. I'd like to have f3 simply add a bookmark or something like that, and those who can have quick menus would want them. 23.09.16 # [IDC]Dragon: works on recorder, not on player 23.09.30 # The stop key does now, but only when you're set to spell already. 23.09.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> LinusN: same with F2/F3, I'm afraid. 23.09.41 # yes 23.10.10 # What about some combo like on+left? 23.10.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> combos are politically incorrect here. ;-) 23.10.46 # RB uses on+play for a menu 23.11.08 # we are working to get rid of most combos 23.11.23 # Woopsy, I shouldn't have reminded you of that one then. What about on+up on the recorder units? 23.11.31 # amansinger: ok I see, I wondered if there would be some way to replace LCDs by braille screens. But given the costs, this seems difficult. 23.11.32 # page-up 23.11.46 # and on+down. Seriously, though, may I ask why? 23.12.09 # why what? 23.12.10 # No, I was just mentioning combos, not suggesting key assignments 23.12.24 Join lImbus [0] (lImbus@214.187-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) 23.12.28 # Why combos arepolitically off and why you're working to get rid of them. 23.12.36 # we want to be able to operate the jukebox with one hand 23.13.19 # Umm and you can't now with the on+play? It can be done with the unit in a pocket (speaking from experience here). 23.13.28 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 23.14.07 # amansinger: not easily 23.14.18 # Perhaps that idea Andrias (sorry about the spelling) put forward earlier has some merrit. Hover over the thing for a time and get it spelled. 23.14.31 # Admitted. Not easily. 23.15.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> Maybe a spell combo is not so bad. It's a very special function anyway. 23.15.26 # Laurent: it has been done on several PCs and laptops. The problem is cost and weight. 23.16.05 # one of the comments offered against Phoneme reading was that we could not cross-fade the samples, so with the stereo->mono mixdown idea that's one problem down 23.16.12 Join mattzz [0] (~mattzz@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 23.16.29 # I'd agree, if I may (obviously), keep in mind that ppeople aren't going to use it all that often or, rather, they aren't going to use it all that often with one hand. 23.17.34 # amansinger: ok, I see 23.18.48 # BC: I read about your mixdown idea, but I think this is not possible with mp3 (even if the "dualchannel" encoding is used) since the data in an mp3 frame is huffman coded. It may be possible with mp2, though. 23.20.18 # ami: thanks, I have had no luck finding info on the mp3 *data* structure, so any help is good help :) 23.20.54 # BC: Perhaps you may have a look at the lame sources. 23.21.08 Ctcp Ignored 4 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 22 minutes at the last flood 23.21.08 # * BC panics at the thought 23.21.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> BC: google for ISO 11172-3 pdf. 23.21.41 # * BC goolging 23.22.06 Quit jkerman (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.22.16 # BC: I did that to get the CRC algorithm for mpeg audio frames, and found it. Perhaps I may write an mpeg audio check tool that can check frame structure *and* crc, if present. 23.23.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: my rvfmux contains a frame checker. 23.23.27 # [IDC]Dragon: You *do* crc? 23.23.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> no, frames. 23.24.05 # [IDC]Dragon: thanks for that - that might be just what I need 23.24.22 # amiconn: cool 23.24.28 # b 23.24.41 # ooops, wrong window 23.24.45 # btw: hi 23.25.01 # hi 23.25.07 # Yes, there are several tools that check (and some try to fix) frame structure, but not CRC. This is something I want for checking Rockbox recording. 23.25.28 # s 23.25.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: I also have CRC routines, you know. 23.25.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> mp3 uses a 16 bit CRC 23.26.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> generator polynomial is X16 + X15 + X2 + 1 23.26.23 # [IDC]Dragon: Yes I know, as I found the algorithm. 23.27.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> so it shoudn't be too hard. 23.27.19 # (from the lame source) 23.28.11 # I would like to tell you my thoughts about the talkbox clip switching problem. 23.28.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: you mentioned some ideas about the broken clip transitions? 23.28.17 Join Unknown [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 23.28.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> ;-) 23.28.41 # Yes, that's why I wanted to know exactly at which point you captured the data. 23.28.46 Join solaris [0] (solaris@pool-151-196-33-3.balt.east.verizon.net) 23.29.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> I make a little protocol on what I hand over to the DMA# 23.30.17 # Within Rockbox, yes? 23.30.25 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.30.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> which pretty much is queue_clip() 23.31.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> in the box, yes. 23.31.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> the exeption is the transition. 23.31.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> Here I pause the DMA, read its pointer. 23.32.02 # Yes, in shutup(), I had a look at it. 23.32.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> From there I do a quick frame search, you know, OK. 23.33.08 # First thing is, you should take out the silent frame insertion, since the voice file may have a different sampling frequency. 23.33.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> already done here, yes. 23.33.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> I've learned more about bit reservoir, found out it's bullshit. 23.33.58 # ??? 23.34.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bit reservoir means the nxt frame has a "pointer" into the previous. 23.34.38 Join jkerman [0] (~jkerman@jkhouse2.jvlnet.com) 23.34.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> But if a new clip starts, we don't have a problem. 23.35.14 # Second, you first stop the dma, then immediately read its pointer. The question is: at which byte does it point at this moment? 23.35.22 Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 23.35.36 # amiconn: at the next to transmit 23.35.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> the spec says at the first not-transferred byte. 23.36.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> I think I already did +/- 1 experiments. 23.36.41 # Yes, that's what the SH hw manual says. The thing is that the serial i/f also has a one byte buffer. If you stop the transfer, maybe it does not get transferred. 23.37.07 # [IDC]Dragon: the bit reservoir is still a problem if you have edited the clips 23.37.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> I only stop the DMA, not the serial. (do I?) 23.37.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> LinusN: the voice file is a bunch of independently encoded clips. 23.38.02 # good 23.38.28 # Yes, you do stop the dma transfer to the serial i/f. What if the SH tries to be clever and stops the serial transfer immediately as well? 23.38.49 # that would be extremely silly 23.39.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> The SH doesn't even know it's the serial. 23.39.08 # and i very much doubit it 23.39.19 # There is another possibility that would be even worse: Maybe the serial transfer is really stopped immediately, even when a byte is transferred half-way 23.39.52 # Sorry for jumping in - what does this mean: I04:IllInstr at 0000404 23.39.54 # the serial interface is separate from the dma 23.39.57 Quit [1]c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.40.03 # mattzz: bad news :-) 23.40.22 # it means that the CPU has gone picking daisies in memory 23.40.24 # LinusN: dammit, thought I found an easteregg.... 23.41.17 # can you repeat it? 23.41.37 # LinusN: kind of memory exception? Yes, I can repeat it with my very special plugin... 23.41.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> oops, mp3_play_pause() uses SCR0 23.42.02 # ah, so it's your code that causes it 23.42.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> meaning, it doesn't pause the DMA, but the serial 23.42.17 # LinusN: yup, thats for sure 23.42.38 Quit ricflair (truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.42.38 NSplit truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.42.38 Quit silencer (truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.42.49 # LinusN, [IDC]Dragon: Shouldn't it pause the DMA instead? 23.42.54 # [IDC]Dragon: i believe I had a reason to do that 23.43.13 # So my ideas weren't that bad at all... 23.43.30 # in the stone age, i found it better to stop the serial port instead of the dma, but i can't remember why 23.43.49 # amiconn: yes, you're on to something 23.43.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> can we stop the DMA? 23.43.58 # yes we can 23.44.13 NHeal truong.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.44.13 NJoin silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 23.44.40 # hello, i'm glad to see masters picking their brains.... 23.45.14 # if i may, kindly point me where i can start on rs232 boot mod? 23.45.36 # solaris: you have serial modded your box? 23.45.38 # i read documentation section but i need more info 23.45.53 # not even close 23.46.00 Join c0utta [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 23.46.07 # fm recorder? 23.46.10 # v2? 23.46.13 # v2 23.46.17 # regular? 23.46.20 Join MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 23.46.21 # ah, v2 23.46.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> solaris: are you Jake? 23.46.27 # yes 23.46.28 # i am 23.46.31 # figured 23.46.38 # i left few messages 23.46.45 # trying to figure this out 23.46.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> Ah, I was just answering your posting. 23.46.55 # i can't understand why the original firmware doesn't start ajbrec.ajz 23.46.56 Quit jkerman (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.46.58 # oh 23.47.00 # great!!! 23.47.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> But IRC keeps me very busy tonight. 23.47.17 # lol 23.47.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> LinusN: neither can I. 23.47.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> solaris: is the F1-Archos s/w fully operational? 23.47.51 # i have it next to me and if i can throw this at you, i will 23.47.58 # i think so 23.48.10 # i can play mp3's and all 23.48.14 # solaris: how is it partitioned? 23.48.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> what do you want to throw? 23.48.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> at whom? 23.48.23 # it's not partitioned 23.48.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> (me?) 23.48.33 # fat32 23.48.36 # then partition it and try again 23.48.37 # not divided 23.49.00 # hmmm 23.49.02 # just a single type C primary partition 23.49.09 # ok 23.49.12 # i'll try that 23.49.19 # but i even formatted the whole thing 23.49.25 # i know 23.49.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> you can try if it loads an Archos .ajz from disk 23.52.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.53.27 # ok, using partition magic to format 23.53.34 # good 23.53.45 Quit Unknown (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.53.59 # make sure it's FAT32 LBA (type c) 23.55.40 Join Unknown [0] (~c0utta@158.cust44.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au)