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00.27.07 #       <top_bloke> @find in flames
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00.46.01 #       <top_bloke> crap i just realized i did that here
00.50.43 #       <amiconn> re mattzz
00.51.41 #       <mattzz> re jens 
01.00.01 #       <amiconn> Just had a quick look at your checkbox & settings patches, but did not yet try them.
01.01.06 #       <amiconn> I wonder if the dreaded address error you mentioned was related to them.
01.01.44 #       <mattzz> amiconn: just playing around with it... that is strange: Auto  Volume is shown boolean?
01.01.56 #       * mattzz is firing up emacs
01.02.42 #       <amiconn> Hmm, I think it shouldn't
01.03.20 #       <mattzz> show files also
01.03.38 #       <mattzz> cant toggle show files
01.04.40 #       <mattzz> amiconn: that address error was due to an old rockbox_flash.rock
01.05.55 #       <amiconn> Ah ok.
01.06.30 #       <mattzz> what is shown in your sound / auto volume dialog?
01.09.21 #       <amiconn> AV Decay time: Off / 2s / 4s / 8s
01.10.59 #       <amiconn> (obviously not boolean)
01.11.41 #       <mattzz> argh, bad bug
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01.28.33 #       <CpuMan2001> is there any way to adjust contrast yet on the rfv videos?
01.34.05 #       <amiconn> CpuMan2001: You can only choose the contrast of an .rvf while generating it, or adjust the display contrast before you start playing.
01.34.34 #       <scott666> IIRC the plugin API needs to be updated to adjust contrast from within the plugin
01.37.13 #       <CpuMan2001> alright
01.37.41 #       <CpuMan2001> out of interest, has anyone tried to run the cartoon Rejected on it and have it look pretty good
01.41.26 #       <amiconn> Nite all.
01.41.40 #       <mattzz> nite jens
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02.41.08 #       <BC> evenin all
02.42.24 #       <BC> wow - haven't had a reaction like that since the last time I told a joke :)
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02.44.45 #       <BC> well ...i'm off to smoke the contents of my keyboard...
02.44.51 #       <yeft> guess whose back
02.44.55 #       <yeft> back agian
02.44.56 #       <BC> back again?
02.45.04 #       <yeft> whats up
02.45.16 #       <BC> popped in for a distraction chat
02.45.31 #       <yeft> so i come back to rockbox after like 2 months and they got 2.2 and VIDEO!?
02.45.35 #       <yeft> what is up with that?
02.45.52 #       <BC> heh - yes, Dragon has been up to his ld tricks again
02.45.59 #       <BC> *old
02.46.10 #       <BC> doing the impossible
02.46.22 #       <BC> there is also a greyscale framework for plugins
02.46.22 #       <yeft> how does that video work?
02.46.27 #       <yeft> are there any screenshot
02.46.31 #       <BC> flashes the bits really fast
02.47.03 #       <BC> there's a mandlebrot screen shot somewhere - url in the irc logs :(
02.47.21 #       <BC> ONLY problem with video is...
02.47.45 #       <BC> we have no refresh to synch aganst and the framerate of the unit changes according to temperature
02.48.03 #       <BC> but it's mighty awesome
02.48.25 #       <BC> to be honest a demo video would be more useful than a screenshot
02.48.53 #       <yeft> true
02.49.01 #       <yeft> but unless im gonna get an irc client
02.49.10 #       <yeft> and your gonna ctcp me one
02.49.15 #       <BC> got aim or icq or whatever?
02.49.21 #       <yeft> aim
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03.29.02 #       <BC> any techies know which is better?   a=a*8    or   a=a<<3
03.29.21 #       <BC> specifically for OUR processor that is, as we do not have <<3
03.41.23 #       <yeft> we will see if it still works
03.41.30 #       <yeft> after i xed out of avitoyu
03.45.44 #       <yeft> ok it didnt work
03.45.53 #       <yeft> why doesnt my avitoyu work?
03.45.58 #       <BC> <shrugs>
03.46.24 #       <BC> again, I'm with the guy who wrote it - bloody impressive, but not much real use
03.46.39 #       <yeft> whaa?
03.46.45 #       <yeft> hehe bloody
03.46.50 #       <yeft> british people...heh
03.46.57 #       <BC> maybe if I commuted to work on a train
03.47.20 #       * BC nips of to find a lime to cure his scurvey
03.47.24 #       <BC> *off
03.47.30 #       <yeft> it said like pp:0 then somethin 0,000000 ms (0)
03.47.36 #       <yeft> and repeated
03.47.40 #       <yeft> i assume thats not good
03.47.47 #       <BC> did you try one of the new GUI things?
03.48.14 #       <yeft> im using the GUI
03.48.21 #       <yeft> im too dumb for command line
03.48.28 #       <BC> lol
03.48.31 #       <BC> nc
03.48.58 #       <yeft> extract sound? does that put it in the rvf?
03.49.04 #       <BC> yes
03.49.19 #       <BC> well, i have zero idea about the gui, but you can have sound in an rvf
03.49.49 #       <yeft> ok
03.49.50 #       <yeft> cool
03.52.09 #       <yeft> i lied though i said i cant do command line but im just too lazy
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05.23.11 #       <Greenlight63> Can someone help me convert movies to play on my archos recorder 20?
05.23.41 #       <BC> best I can offer is the fact that it's all in the mailing list archive
05.24.37 #       <Greenlight63> i got the rockvideo converter, but it says it performed an illegal opperation
05.24.38 #       <Greenlight63> :(\
05.24.40 #       <Greenlight63> :(
05.24.54 #       <BC> the new gui thing?
05.25.06 #       <Greenlight63> ??
05.25.16 #       <Greenlight63> i got it from "jorg's " site
05.25.55 #       <scott666> look in the mailing list archives. if it still doesnt work post a question to the list, because the creator is still hunting bugs
05.26.06 #       <BC> cheers scott
05.26.11 #       <Greenlight63> okay thanx
05.26.21 #       <Greenlight63> what should i put in the search?
05.26.24 #       <Greenlight63> rockvideo?
05.27.08 #       <BC> "RockVideo GUI Release" seems like a good bet
05.27.27 #       <BC> 18/4/2004
05.27.40 #       <BC> (spot the brit)
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05.36.14 #       <BC> Mr Knight I presume
05.36.23 #       <midknight2k3> heybc
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05.47.45 #       <BC> mk, wanna playtest klondike?
05.48.12 #       * scott666 wants to playtest solitaire...unless it isnt new
05.48.44 #       <BC> get back to work you!
05.49.09 #       <BC> lol
05.49.17 #       * scott666 sniffles
05.49.19 #       <scott666> lol
05.49.28 #       <midk> sry what
05.49.29 #       <midk> bc?
05.49.38 #       <BC> ^^^
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05.56.08 #       <midk> klondike?
05.57.02 #       <BC> aka "solitaire"
05.57.15 #       <midk> does it work now?
05.57.18 #       <BC> nm
05.57.28 #       <midk> no really
05.57.30 #       <midk> it does or no?
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05.58.55 #       <BC> no really, nm, i'm not up for the third degree, my grandmother would disapprove
05.59.17 #       <midk> ok, be taht way
05.59.23 #       <midk> that*
05.59.31 #       <BC> if you insist
06.01.33 #       <midk> nite all
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10.21.14 #       <mattzz> LinusN: are u there?
10.22.57 #       <LinusN> yup
10.23.35 #       <mattzz> I reworked my checkbox patch last night - looks good to me now for boolean settings
10.23.45 #       <mattzz> checkbox integration patch
10.24.32 #       <LinusN> ok, does the voice still work?
10.24.55 #       <mattzz> yes
10.25.09 #       <mattzz> I am talking about patch 940307
10.25.10 #       <LinusN> i'll have a look
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10.25.29 #       <cheaf> hello
10.25.38 #       <cheaf> i have a question 
10.25.41 #       <mattzz> could you please check the player-only build? I dont have the possibility here at work
10.25.52 #       <mattzz> cheaf: go ahead
10.25.56 #       <cheaf> I have a archos av380
10.26.13 #       <cheaf> what?
10.26.20 #       <cheaf> why?
10.26.33 #       <mattzz> cheaf: meaning: ask your question ;-)
10.26.53 #       <cheaf> I want to instal the avos bootloader
10.27.18 #       <cheaf> but, where I have to copy all the files? 
10.27.54 #       <cheaf> where ist the root folder on the archos
10.28.10 #       <mattzz> av380 is avos multimedia, right?
10.28.17 #       <cheaf> jes
10.28.19 #       <cheaf> yes
10.28.59 #       <mattzz> http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/nodo.html --> no. 7
10.29.13 #       <mattzz> av380 is not supported by rockbox
10.29.43 #       <cheaf> yes, but wat has rockbox to do with avos?
10.30.22 #       <cheaf> I think I am in a wrong chat
10.30.33 #       <cheaf> ok, bye and thanks
10.30.43 #       <mattzz> hm, sorry
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12.01.28 #       <LinusN> mattzz|away: i have looked at your checkbox, looks fine
12.02.06 #       <LinusN> the set_options() bool patch looks ok too
12.05.52 #       <Pones> hello, I installed rockbox yesterday - its really good :D
12.07.37 #       <Pones> hello?
12.07.50 #       <LinusN> hi
12.09.10 #       <Pones> i have a quick question - after I installed rockbox - I noticed that a folder called AAAAA  would not show uop in the browser list until I renamed it - any reason for that?
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14.42.39 #       <RV|WRK> !seen [IDC]Dragon
14.42.58 #       <RV|WRK> ahh well will have to wait then
14.43.04 #       <LinusN> why him?
14.45.37 #       <RV|WRK> q about the plugin he did to act as a cd changer
14.45.43 #       <LinusN> ah
14.46.15 #       <c0utta> linus: to our discussion last night.  i can see we need a file types / valid actions logic
14.46.38 #       <LinusN> maybe, maybe nnot
14.46.49 #       <c0utta> u have an idea ?
14.47.54 #       <LinusN> well, it can stay like it is today, with the "hard coded" ON+Play menu
14.48.34 #       <LinusN> but it would perhaps still be nice with a similar filter for the f2 actions...
14.48.47 #       <c0utta> within my actions i'll be checking file types and see if they're applicable
14.50.29 #       <c0utta> from wps.c, is the current file palyed the "current_track_path" static ?
14.50.37 #       <c0utta> or should i use the id3 struct ?
14.50.46 #       <c0utta> s/palyed/played
14.51.31 #       <LinusN> it doesn't have to be static
14.52.04 #       <LinusN> but i'd prefer a current_playing_file() function
14.52.18 #       <c0utta> but that would just return current_track_path ?
14.52.34 #       <LinusN> yes, but it's nicer for the plugin api
14.52.51 #       <LinusN> i assume plugins would like that info too
14.52.55 #       <c0utta> my whole approach is to treat wps and tree like "objects"
14.53.14 #       <LinusN> a bad move imho
14.53.21 #       <c0utta> and create "property" functions
14.53.26 #       <c0utta> why a bad move ?
14.53.48 #       <LinusN> well, they aren't object to begin with :-)
14.54.52 #       <c0utta> i am familiar with trying to get procedural languages to look more oo
14.54.57 #       <c0utta> lokk at VB :)
14.55.03 #       <LinusN> their data is only valid if the wps/tree is shown
14.55.04 #       <c0utta> s/llok/look
14.55.50 #       <LinusN> current_track_path will not be updated while browsing dirs
14.56.10 #       <LinusN> better use mpeg_current_track()
14.56.46 #       <c0utta> thanks - i had just opened mpeg.c :)
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15.24.49 #       <amiconn|work> LinusN: Any news about the recording code?
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15.26.31 #       <LinusN> nope, give me a few moments
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15.49.48 #       <[IDC]Dragon> RV|WRK: you were looking for me?
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16.05.53 #       <LinusN> amiconn|work: u there?
16.06.30 #       <LinusN> i have some interesting findings about your new recording code
16.09.43 #       <amiconn|work> Yes?
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16.10.53 #       <LinusN> look at this: http://linus.haxx.se/recording/rec_weird.png
16.11.12 #       <LinusN> that is the end of a burst
16.11.14 #       <Bagder> toshiba claims their new 100GB disk uses 20% less power
16.11.30 #       <Bagder> than their 80GB
16.11.43 #       <LinusN> see how EOD goes low at the end, making us serve another IRQ
16.12.09 #       <LinusN> we set PR low, but RTW doesn't come until the next frame has been compressed
16.12.50 #       <LinusN> wait a sec
16.12.56 #       <Bagder> me go
16.12.58 #       <Bagder> see ya
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16.13.21 #       <LinusN> amiconn|work: the signal names are mixed uo
16.13.23 #       <LinusN> up
16.13.38 #       <LinusN> PRTW is actually PR
16.14.01 #       <LinusN> (some day i'll change PRTW to RTW in the LA settings :-)
16.15.56 #       <amiconn|work> Is this behaviour different from the "old" recording code? Can't find this in your previous LA measurements...
16.17.43 #       <amiconn|work> Another point of interest would be to see one burst with the same time resolution as in your old graphs for comparison.
16.18.32 #       <LinusN> doh, they are not mixed up
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16.20.51 #       <LinusN> a 30-byte burst takes 143.5us with your new code, compared to 192us with the old
16.22.34 #       <LinusN> look et the end of the "complete frame burst" at http://linus.haxx.se/recording/
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16.22.48 #       <LinusN> RTW doesn't go low there
16.25.37 #       <LinusN> and RTW is high between the two complete bursts too
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16.28.58 #       <amiconn|work> I wonder why it does so? RTW is driven by the mas, right?
16.30.02 #       <amiconn|work> And _the_ thing is: I get not frame errors in recordings done with my code.
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16.38.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn|work: what are you investigating?
16.39.06 #       <amiconn|work> Linus did some LA measurements with my new recording code.
16.42.12 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes, what's the interesting part about it? (just curious)
16.53.08 #       <amiconn|work> See: http://linus.haxx.se/recording/rec_weird.png and compare it with http://linus.haxx.se/recording/ : "one complete frame burst" / "two complete frame bursts".
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16.54.01 #       <amiconn|work> Watch for EOD and PRTW at the end.
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16.56.06 #       <[IDC]Dragon> going low, you mean?
16.56.48 #       <amiconn|work> Yup. I have no idea why, it is driven by the mas after all, and the burst is 30 bytes long as it should be.
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16.56.59 #       <quelsaruk> hi
16.57.02 #       <amiconn|work> hi
16.57.39 #       <quelsaruk> [IDC]Dragon, do you still have that spanish voice you told me??
16.57.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> SAPI4, yes
16.58.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> if it's like my german one, it's horrible
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17.00.50 #       <amiconn|work> quelsaruk: There is a (latin amercian) spanish voice available as at&t natural voice. If someone has some € 30,- available...
17.00.58 #       <amiconn|work> *american
17.02.36 #       <lImbus> well, a marcian ;-)
17.06.23 #       <quelsaruk> umm
17.06.32 #       <quelsaruk> latin american is not really spanish
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17.07.01 #       <quelsaruk> but thanks for the advice amiconn|work :)
17.08.05 #       <solaris> hello, any advise of what to do with my JBR20 w/flash problem?
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17.09.36 #       <uski> hi
17.09.50 #       <uski> anyone knows: how to know if a 2.5" disk is locked ? if so, how to unlock it ?
17.10.02 #       <BC> locked?
17.10.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> solaris: how is the status on l
17.10.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> oops
17.10.28 #       <[IDC]Dragon> status on RS232 level converter an serial mod?
17.10.37 #       <[IDC]Dragon> s/an/and
17.10.54 #       <quelsaruk> [IDC]Dragon, what must i do to make a spanish voice file, and add that to the espanol.lang and so on?? (if you don't mind, of course)
17.10.56 #       <uski> BC: yea, password protection embedded in the hard drive; some drives are known to be locked with a hex password of 00000...00000
17.11.40 #       <BC> sorry uski, that's a totally new one on me :(
17.11.52 #       <uski> BC: ok ;) no problem
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17.13.29 #       <uski> perhaps LinusN knows ? :)
17.13.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> quelsaruk: do you have the voice entries in your translation?
17.14.51 #       <BC> uski: do you have any links on th subject?
17.14.55 #       <quelsaruk> bc, i have somewhere a program to unlock a hard disk, you could try it. I also think that it's in rockbox website (read the faq, i read that there)
17.15.04 #       <quelsaruk> [IDC]Dragon, i have nothing done :)
17.15.27 #       <[IDC]Dragon> then maybe you should?
17.15.50 #       <BC> quelsaruk: thanks - aways nice to be "in the know"
17.15.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> compare english.lang and german.lang, you'll see
17.15.54 #       <uski> BC: rockbox.haxx.se/lock.html
17.16.02 #       <uski> or .htm i don't remember
17.16.11 #       <uski> unfortunately this does not help as i can't patch my linux kernel
17.17.04 #       <BC> uski: thanks
17.17.08 #       <uski> ;)
17.18.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> solaris: are you there?
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17.26.19 #       <solaris> yes
17.26.22 #       <solaris> i'm here now
17.26.42 #       <solaris> ummm, i haven't done much with serial mod
17.26.53 #       <solaris> i thought you said i didn't need one
17.27.14 #       <solaris> should i be building one?
17.27.20 #       <quelsaruk> [IDC]Dragon, and afterwards?
17.27.40 #       <quelsaruk> i mean, after adding the voice entries
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17.33.49 #       <RV|WRK> [IDC]Dragon
17.33.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> quelsaruk: then you can run one of my batch files
17.34.15 #       <RV|WRK> lo again
17.34.21 #       <[IDC]Dragon> for SAPI4, you currently need TextAloud or similar
17.34.36 #       <[IDC]Dragon> RV|WRK: yes?
17.35.08 #       <RV|WRK> what functionality did you get with your alpine system ?
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17.36.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> not too much yet, just enabling the input
17.36.20 #       <RV|WRK> k
17.36.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> but this is most of the work
17.36.41 #       <[IDC]Dragon> since the protocol and emulation is all there
17.37.09 #       <RV|WRK> does it query the archos from time to time or just on power up ?
17.37.11 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I "just" need to wire the emulation with Rockbox control
17.37.38 #       <[IDC]Dragon> queries every second
17.38.06 #       <RV|WRK> so you got a simple query and response going then
17.38.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> when I end the plugin, it's over
17.38.18 #       <RV|WRK> how u mean ?
17.38.42 #       <[IDC]Dragon> the radio gets times out
17.38.44 #       <quelsaruk> thanks [IDC]Dragon :)
17.38.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> timed out
17.39.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> and shows error, disables its input
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17.40.19 #       <RV|WRK> sum1 is lending me a correct changer for my renault so im gonna have a probe on the bus hopefully when its happy
17.40.36 #       <RV|WRK> you just use a scope ?
17.40.49 #       <[IDC]Dragon> at first, yes
17.40.57 #       <[IDC]Dragon> then a ligic analyzer
17.41.02 #       <[IDC]Dragon> logic
17.41.17 #       <RV|WRK> you got access to them ?
17.41.27 #       <[IDC]Dragon> at work, yes
17.41.42 #       <RV|WRK> been looking at souncard based scopes etc
17.41.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> that's probably sufficient
17.42.20 #       <RV|WRK> :) work too tight for a scope but i used them in a previous job
17.43.07 #       <RV|WRK> just a case of recording actions & responses to all available commands etc ?
17.43.23 #       <[IDC]Dragon> if the bus is slow (like my alpine), the wiring it carefully to a soundcard is OK
17.43.38 #       <[IDC]Dragon> no, you need to understand it
17.44.02 #       <[IDC]Dragon> but yes, you have to log all use cases
17.44.19 #       <RV|WRK> yes, i mean seeing what is ent and received initially and then to the next track etc commands
17.44.50 #       <[IDC]Dragon> sounds simple, but was like 2 weeks of work
17.45.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> the hardest was the checksum
17.45.13 #       <RV|WRK> how u mean ?
17.45.29 #       <[IDC]Dragon> have u read my M-Bus article?
17.45.41 #       <RV|WRK> u have a data packer or word followed by csum ?
17.45.57 #       <[IDC]Dragon> http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/mbus
17.46.09 #       <RV|WRK> no as im not convinced the system is mbus
17.46.15 #       <RV|WRK> will do ta
17.46.20 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I mean, generally
17.49.32 #       <RV|WRK> yes see what u mean now
17.50.59 #       <RV|WRK> im hoping my system is a 1 wire mbus type and not a sony unilink variant as this could be much more difficult to monitor
17.51.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> good luck
17.51.21 #       <RV|WRK> :) ta
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17.54.28 #       <quelsaruk> time to go
17.54.29 #       <quelsaruk> cu!
17.54.38 #       <RV|WRK> right thats my time to finish work thanks bbl
17.54.39 #       <quelsaruk> have a nice weekend
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17.55.04 #       <[IDC]Dragon> solaris: u there?
17.55.16 #       <solaris> yes
17.55.45 #       <[IDC]Dragon> in general: don't worry, so far all misflashed boxes have been recovered.
17.56.26 #       <solaris> cool, that's good to know
17.58.59 #       <solaris> so, can you please tell me what steps to take?
18.01.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> serial mod and RS232 level converter
18.02.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> then u can use my uart_boot program to read and write your flash
18.02.49 #       <BC> Here's irony ...Anyone know Bjoerns "hacker alias"?
18.03.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> zagor?
18.03.13 #       <BC> cheers
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18.07.13 #       <solaris> dragon: i'll start on rs232, but how do u serial mod? using LINE-IN??
18.07.48 #       <[IDC]Dragon> either that, or just temporary attached wires.
18.08.04 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you have a V2, right?
18.08.08 #       <solaris> yes
18.08.15 #       <solaris> jbr20 recorder v2
18.08.20 #       <[IDC]Dragon> ok
18.08.35 #       <solaris> it'll work with LINE-IN w/ v2?
18.08.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you'd have tore-wire line in
18.09.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> to re-wire
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18.09.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> on the FM/V2, the serial is nicely accessible on an empty header
18.10.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I can send you a picture, but later, don't have it here
18.10.16 #       <solaris> hmm, like this?? http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/serialport.html
18.10.35 #       <[IDC]Dragon> this id for a Player
18.10.38 #       <[IDC]Dragon> is
18.11.44 #       <[IDC]Dragon> do you have a level converter?
18.12.50 #       <solaris> no
18.13.39 #       <[IDC]Dragon> do you know any hardware hacker who does?
18.13.56 #       <[IDC]Dragon> (mobile phone cables often contain one)
18.14.15 #       <solaris> hmmm, i'll ask my bro-in law
18.14.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> have a look at this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/fmrecorder.html
18.16.07 #       <solaris> how about this? http://chaokhun.kmitl.ac.th/~kswichit/ap275/ap275.htm
18.16.27 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you can see the 2*3 header (with holes) at the bottom, close to the headphone jack
18.17.17 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes, I use something similar
18.18.43 #       <solaris> so, i can use either this or max232
18.19.02 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes
18.19.25 #       <[IDC]Dragon> but keep in mind the Archos is 3.3V, not 5V
18.20.17 #       <solaris> so, reduce the voltage?
18.20.22 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes
18.23.07 #       <solaris> you can see the 2*3 header (with holes) at the bottom, close to the headphone jack <==== where??
18.23.19 #       <solaris> i'm looking at the headphone jack
18.23.42 #       <[IDC]Dragon> at your box or at the PCB picture?
18.24.29 #       <[IDC]Dragon> open this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/fmrec_top_hires.jpg
18.26.35 #       <[IDC]Dragon> pixel coordinates 781,743
18.26.41 #       <solaris> ok
18.27.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> found it?
18.27.50 #       <solaris> yes
18.28.21 #       <solaris> so, which are tX, Rx.... ??
18.28.29 #       <[IDC]Dragon> to 3 of these pads, you'll have to attach wires to have TX, RX, Gnd
18.28.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I don't know, have to tell you later
18.29.22 #       <solaris> ok, this will be fun
18.29.28 #       <[IDC]Dragon> ;-)
18.30.20 #       <solaris> i'll start on level convert, and ask for help later, thx
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18.31.05 #       <[IDC]Dragon> RX is the square one, iirc
18.31.26 #       <[IDC]Dragon> TX is probably opposite to that
18.31.38 #       <solaris> ok, i'll write this down
18.31.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Gnd you can find easily with a continuity tester, is connected to the chassis
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18.32.19 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'm not 100% here, better confirm later
18.32.57 #       <solaris> got it
18.33.21 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Gnd are the both in the middle
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19.11.33 #       <mattzz> Checkbox widget integration patch is uploaded. I added a fix for the player model. Have fun with it ;-)
19.11.57 #       <mattzz> All plain boolean setting dialogs have a checkbox widget now.
19.15.22 #       * mattzz thinks about a radio-button widget for a single selection out of more than one options and a spinbutton widget 
19.15.52 #       <mattzz> gotta go again - cu
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21.26.00 #       <amiconn> LinusN: Did you get my comments / questions to the recording analysis a while ago?
21.28.06 #       <pfavr> Is there a how to make rvfs using linux somewhere?
21.28.39 #       <pfavr> or maybe a link to a working rvf I could try out?
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22.02.08 #       <LinusN> amiconn: yes, i am as puzzled as you are
22.02.42 #       * LinusN is away: putting kids to bed
22.05.15 #       <uski> "hey kids, go to bed now !" "no dad we wanna watch tv !" "i told you that there is nothing for you on the evenings" "our friend Tom said that there are movies ! why can't we watch movies ?" "because you're too young" "and when we will be able to see them ?" "in some years ?" "how many ?" "i don't know"
22.05.27 #       <amiconn> LinusN: maybe you got (by chance) the very last burst of the recording, so the mas was put back into playback mode afterwards.
22.05.59 #       <uski> "why don't you want to tell us ?" "because it's late and you have to sleep now" "we don't want to sleep ! can you read us a story ?" "no i don't have time, i have to help other rockboxers"
22.06.47 #       <amiconn> If EOD had caused an interrupt, PR would have been put high by the interrupt routine, or do I get something wrong here?
22.07.35 #       * amiconn is busy writing VBScript, so replying may take a while
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22.13.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> solaris: still there?
22.14.39 #       <pfavr> uski, you don't happen to know how I make an rvf-file on linux?
22.15.04 #       <uski> ooo :)
22.15.13 #       <uski> how did you ? using wine ? :)
22.15.55 #       <pfavr> uski, heh, sorry, I meant how I could make one...
22.16.04 #       <uski> aah ;)
22.16.07 #       <uski> you can't i think
22.16.32 #       <uski> unless you pay a linux advanced programming training to [IDC]Dragon ;))))
22.16.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> ;-)
22.17.15 #       <pfavr> I did build some of the utilities on linux a while back, but I missed one of them.
22.17.29 #       <pfavr> (can't remember which)
22.18.07 #       <pfavr> anyone have a rvf-file I could try out (still haven't experienced video on my recorder)
22.18.32 #       <pfavr> it shouldn't be too large - I'm on dialup
22.18.44 #       <uski> hmmm
22.18.48 #       <[IDC]Dragon> http://rockbox.haxx.se/newvid/
22.18.55 #       <uski> i only have large rvf files
22.19.40 #       <[IDC]Dragon> (the smallest with sound is the doom one)
22.20.49 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you can do a partial download, if you like
22.21.01 #       <pfavr> ok thanks
22.22.01 #       <[IDC]Dragon> have you tried the mandelbrot plugin? It also uses grayscale.
22.22.16 #       <pfavr> I think the daily build lacks the .ajz file
22.22.26 #       <pfavr> So I'm getting the bleeding edge build instead
22.22.30 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you only need the plufin
22.22.37 #       <[IDC]Dragon> plugin
22.22.57 #       <pfavr> will it work with 2.2?
22.23.10 #       <[IDC]Dragon> should do
22.23.22 #       <pfavr> I want to try the voice anyway - so I will try the bleeding
22.23.23 #       <amiconn> Someone in here with good knowledge of regular expressions?
22.23.35 #       <pfavr> a little
22.24.17 #       <pfavr> amiconn, how can I help?
22.24.22 #       <amiconn> How do I match a whole word?
22.24.39 #       <pfavr> is it perl regular expressions?
22.24.50 #       <pfavr> \w+
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22.24.58 #       <amiconn> i.e. blank before and after, or start at beginning of string and/or end ant end of string
22.25.30 #       <amiconn> I wast precise enough, how do I match a _specific word?
22.25.35 #       <amiconn> *wasn't
22.25.57 #       <pfavr> just write the string itself
22.26.25 #       <pfavr> are you using grep?
22.26.30 #       <pfavr> or what program is it?
22.26.33 #       <amiconn> Just string itself does also match if it is a part of a compound word, waht I don't want
22.26.49 #       <amiconn> No, this is actually VBScript
22.27.09 #       <uski> what is the pathname of the directory which has the .rocks files ? /.rockbox/rocks ?
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22.27.31 #       <amiconn> So I need to know how to match (wordseparator)blahblah(wordseparator)
22.27.47 #       <amiconn> uski: yes
22.27.58 #       <uski> ok :)
22.28.33 #       <pfavr> \s+blablah\s+
22.28.47 #       <pfavr> (if it understands perl regex)
22.30.58 #       <amiconn> Yes, this does indeed work in VBScript, but not correct, since it does match the whitespace also, so if I do a replace against the match, my blanks are gone.
22.31.48 #       <pfavr> ah ok
22.32.17 #       <pfavr> \s+(blabla)\s+ and then refer to the matched word as $
22.32.21 #       <pfavr> $1
22.32.24 #       <pfavr> sorry
22.32.35 #       <pfavr> well still not sure what you try to do
22.32.57 #       <uski> btw anyone knows what is this "auto volume" option?
22.35.15 #       <amiconn> pfavr: I try to write two script to deal with the voice features of rockbox. Since some words are pronounced wrong and we do not want to introduce deliberate spelling errors into the .lang files because this depends on the voice engine used, I want to have a "string replacement list" in the script.
22.36.18 #       <pfavr> ah
22.36.21 #       <pfavr> ok
22.36.37 #       <pfavr> could you show me the vbscribt function you use?
22.38.11 #       <amiconn> The script is actually rather complex, because I want to use it with different sapi voices, so I define a Dictionary object of Dictionary objects. Each of the sub-objects holds a list of match/replace pairs for one voice.
22.38.52 #       <amiconn> The replacement is done with the RegExp object, and now I want to define the match strings.
22.39.27 #       <pfavr> mandelbrot: cool!
22.39.59 #       <pfavr> ok think I get it now
22.40.25 #       <pfavr> the tricky part is that you want to be sure that this is a whole word and not just part of a word
22.40.43 #       <pfavr> but you just want to replace the word itself
22.40.49 #       <amiconn> Sadly, the () .. $1 method is not possible with the RegExp object.
22.41.09 #       <amiconn> Yes, for _some_ strings I want to make sure that it is a whole word.
22.41.19 #       <pfavr> part of a word would be easy - you figured that out already
22.41.35 #       <amiconn> Yup. Just the string itself.
22.41.52 #       <pfavr> It is not something I know _like that_
22.41.57 #       <pfavr> bumbum
22.42.33 #       <pfavr> the problem is: the part you match you also replace
22.42.37 #       <pfavr> how about
22.43.02 #       <pfavr> matching <space>word<space> and replacing with <space>word2<space>?
22.43.29 #       <pfavr> but that will not work at the end or beginning of a sentence
22.45.07 #       <pfavr> you could of course do a workaround where you pad a space at the beginning and end before you replace
22.46.05 #       <amiconn> Yeah, I found the solution: searching for (\s+)blahblah(\s+) and replacing with $1blubblubb$2 works!
22.46.51 #       <pfavr> the + means one or many
22.47.00 #       <amiconn> (So $ referencing is possible)
22.47.02 #       <pfavr> ? is zero or one
22.47.07 #       <pfavr> great
22.47.40 #       <amiconn> So maybe it is enough to search for (\s)blablah(\s) ?
22.48.16 #       <pfavr> that will only take one space yes
22.48.26 #       <pfavr> actually \s is any whitespace
22.48.39 #       <amiconn> Bummer - this does not work at the beginning or end of string
22.48.54 #       <pfavr> just use ?
22.48.59 #       <pfavr> zero or one
22.49.13 #       <pfavr> or you could use * which means zero or many
22.49.40 #       <amiconn> But if I use "zero or one" this would also match inside a word!?
22.50.10 #       <pfavr> yes, then wee need to see if you can match "beginning of sentence" or "whitespace"
22.50.28 #       <pfavr> [\s^]
22.50.50 #       <pfavr> If I remember correctly, the ^ means "beginning of string"
22.52.17 #       <amiconn> Hmm, doesn't work at the beginning, still works in the middle.
22.53.19 #       <amiconn> Just found something on the net: \< means "match beginning of a word"  \> means "match end of a word". Yay!
22.53.49 #       <pfavr> cool, now I learned something
22.53.54 #       <pfavr> do you have a link?
22.54.14 #       <amiconn> Grr, doesn't work with VBScript.
22.55.29 #       <amiconn> \b works, finally (match beginning or end of word). The link: http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/helpsheets/regex.html
22.55.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> congratulations!
22.56.39 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: I've added the stride parameter to your framework, should I commit that?
22.57.25 #       <pfavr> Just watched part of futurama on my rockbox - this is unbelievable cool!
22.57.50 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: ?? The Framework is not yet committed at all.
22.57.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> didn't you say dialup?
22.58.06 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: oops, sorry then.
22.58.41 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I can email it to you.
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22.59.09 #       <[IDC]Dragon> or update patch tracker. It's in there, right?
22.59.51 #       <amiconn> Yes, it is in the tracker. Is it possible to update someone else's patches in there?
23.00.26 #       <[IDC]Dragon> As an admin, I think so.
23.00.28 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon:  s/\bFirmwares\b/Firmwers/  :))
23.00.30 #       <pfavr> dialup - yes, I also said "part of futurama";-)
23.02.22 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: So maybe we should revert all spelling adjustments from the voice entries (since these are engine dependent, as you said) including the hyphenation as soon as my script is ready.
23.02.56 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: Please do update the framework in the tracker tehn.
23.03.04 #       <amiconn> *then even
23.03.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> grr, just found you updated it meanwhile, need to merge.
23.04.00 #       <amiconn> ? My last update was a number of days ago...
23.04.33 #       <amiconn> 9 days to be precise.
23.10.57 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: Did you check out my "Crystal" voice? It does pronounce "resume" correctly.
23.15.04 #       <[IDC]Dragon> how dis you convince it?
23.15.10 #       <[IDC]Dragon> did
23.15.34 #       <amiconn> This is weird - I used a german spelling: "Resuhm"
23.15.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> looks funny
23.16.08 #       <amiconn> but it works
23.16.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> thanks for the hint
23.16.37 #       <[IDC]Dragon> grayscale patch updated
23.17.01 #       <amiconn> At this moment I got the idea for that vbscript I'm writing now.
23.17.47 #       <pfavr> how many words are there in the language file?
23.19.02 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: a simple word substitution may be too drastic
23.19.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> e.g.resume is pronounced correct if it's in a context
23.21.11 #       <pfavr> where do I put the english voice file - I tried in .rockbox but it doesn't work
23.21.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> in .rockbox/langs
23.22.17 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: Argh! But this is not difficult to solve, as I don't do simple word replacement but regexp matching. I will match "resume" as full string for "Crystal"
23.22.39 #       <pfavr> ok thanks
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23.27.05 #       <dsg> Has anyone made RVFs on linux yet?
23.27.19 #       <uski> dsg: nah
23.27.31 #       <uski> not possible yet
23.27.41 #       <uski> unless you find a very very clever solution
23.28.08 #       <dsg> I was making some attempts... halftone.c compiles cleanly, and I was hoping to get the YUV output from mplayer. I got it, and halftone did it's thing, but it came out very garbled when played back on rockbox.
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23.28.50 #       <dsg> I'm not sure if it's because it's a different YUV format then it expects, or if it's something else though.
23.29.15 #       <[IDC]Dragon> dsg: how does the yuv format look like?
23.29.42 #       <uski> i think a very very clean and cool way to make rvf on linux would be to make a "transcode" ouput plugin
23.29.50 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'm expecting 112*64 YUV4:2:0 planar
23.29.55 #       <uski> transcode = a program to convert video files
23.29.56 #       <dsg> [IDC]Dragon: Well, I don't really recognise the different ones... can you be more specific? :)
23.30.02 #       <[IDC]Dragon> OK
23.30.24 #       <dsg> [IDC]Dragon: Well, I downscaled it to 112*64, but I'm not entirely sure if it's YUV 4:2:0.
23.30.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> planar means the components are in separate frames
23.30.37 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: I've had a look at your addition to the framework, looks nice. But obvoiusly your editor writes tab characters.
23.31.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> 4:2:0 means U and V are half resolution in x and y direction, so these planes are 1/4 in size.
23.31.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> for each frame, the Y plane comes fist, followed by U and V planes.
23.32.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I don't use U and V since we have no color, you can put anything you want in there.
23.33.21 #       <dsg> Hm. I see.
23.33.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> So, each frame is 112*64 = 7168 bytes of Y data, followed by 3584 bytes don't care.
23.34.16 #       <uski> damn, why having this "i don't care" bytes then ? 
23.34.21 #       <dsg> Agh. mplayer is putting the file in an AVI container.
23.34.27 #       <uski> can't you cut them while encoding ?
23.34.35 #       <uski> it would reduce the size of the files :)
23.34.42 #       <uski> dsg :))
23.34.44 #       <[IDC]Dragon> uski: because else it woudn't be YUV
23.34.53 #       <uski> [IDC]Dragon: and why does it has to be YUV ?
23.34.54 #       <uski> ;)
23.34.55 #       <[IDC]Dragon> and there's a tool for YUV
23.35.05 #       <[IDC]Dragon> (from Microsoft)
23.35.14 #       <pfavr> what is the final rvf format like?
23.35.45 #       <pfavr> maybe transcode could produce the right grayscale zoomed stream directly
23.35.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> it's a series of "screenshots" for the Archos
23.36.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> interleaved with audio frames
23.36.21 #       <[IDC]Dragon> which form a linked list
23.36.22 #       <pfavr> ok
23.36.29 #       <[IDC]Dragon> not so trivial
23.36.42 #       <pfavr> so the program producing rvf has sourcecode available?
23.36.49 #       <dsg> [IDC]Dragon: But yeah, file should have no headers, just raw YUV data, right?
23.37.05 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes, halftone and rvf_mux
23.37.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> raw YUV, yes
23.37.37 #       <pfavr> maybe we could make a version taking an output from transcode directly - then transcode could do the grayscale, zoom, and we could skip the YUV format on linux
23.37.49 #       <uski> exactly
23.37.57 #       <uski> you only have to write an output plugin
23.37.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> like my DirectShow filter
23.38.02 #       <uski> exactly
23.38.05 #       <pfavr> that would be faster I think
23.38.08 #       <uski> yea
23.38.20 #       <[IDC]Dragon> go ahead
23.38.20 #       <uski> and very cool because you could convert almost every format to a rvf file
23.39.56 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: I don't know about the tabs, it's not in the areas I touched
23.40.39 #       <pfavr> uski, yes, and using dvd::rip directly to put a DVD on the rockbox in one go with point and click
23.40.46 #       <pfavr> ;-)
23.40.47 #       <uski> rofl yea
23.40.55 #       <uski> right button / Convert to RVF...
23.40.56 #       <uski> ahha
23.41.24 #       <uski> i was thinking of replacing the LCD of my archos by a color one ;)))
23.41.51 #       <pfavr> then you just need to make it usb-master also and connect a usb-dvd-drive
23.41.57 #       <uski> heh
23.42.00 #       <uski> harder
23.42.00 #       <uski> ;)
23.42.06 #       <uski> however
23.42.15 #       <uski> why not connecting an IDE drive instead of the hard drive ? ;)
23.42.23 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: You are right - then tabs do also exist in my local version. I wonder how they went in there then...
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23.43.35 #       <pfavr> uski, can you connect a slave drive?
23.44.54 #       <uski> it is not possible to connect anything else than a computer on the usb port
23.45.12 #       <uski> however u shoulod be able to connect every IDE "thing" to the hard drive connector inside the archos
23.45.19 #       <pfavr> I meant on the IDE - having both the harddrive and an external DVD?
23.45.40 #       <pfavr> then a port of transcode as a rock...
23.45.49 #       <uski> should be possible
23.45.52 #       <uski> master/slave
23.46.01 #       <uski> but triocky to handle i think
23.46.03 #       <uski> -o
23.46.07 #       <pfavr> should probably overclock the SH1 first
23.46.14 #       <uski> ah yea
23.46.15 #       <uski> well
23.46.30 #       <uski> i think that you don't want to decompress the mpeg2 movies in the archos, right ?
23.46.41 #       <uski> the only thing that it can play is uncompressed movies = rvf ;)
23.46.46 #       <pfavr> And a couple of lead akkus as well
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