--- Log for 03.05.104 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 6 days and 20 hours ago 00.05.36 # no pb 00.05.42 # isn't this strange : 00.05.45 # 00000000:( 0) 0000 : ADD R0, #0 00.05.46 # 00000002:( 0) 0002 : ADD R0, #2 00.06.33 Join midk [0] (mk@ACA4F076.ipt.aol.com) 00.07.00 # add r0,0 is probably NOP 00.07.14 # looks like there's a header 00.08.33 # the disassembler works fine too, great work 00.09.04 # i'm a bit deceived not to have been faster than you, but that's life hey ;) 00.09.30 # anyone knows how to write machine files for gcc ? 00.10.08 # If you need any auto-doc or proc-id algorithms, feel free to ask - you can see my RISC disasm at mipsx_src yahoo group for ideas 00.10.42 # heh 00.11.38 # quite funny actually, someone there recently made reference to rockbox flash algorithms - wasn't one of you guys was it? 00.11.51 # wasn't me 00.12.00 # blue, nope, NOP is: 1001111010011000b 00.12.02 # hey amiconn? 00.13.01 # and 111110110111x11xb for the MAC24 DSP 00.13.21 # Strath: lol - I'll take you're word - i'm not even 100% sure what processor you guys are hacking (having joined mid conversation) 00.13.45 # heh, i know, just being a smart ass 00.13.50 # :) cool :) 00.13.58 # gotta be proud of your work :) 00.14.07 # better smart than smelly 00.14.08 # :) 00.14.16 # yosors. 00.14.20 # so what's the opcode for add r0,#0? 00.14.29 # hey bc i tried your solitaire 00.14.29 # bc : 0 ;) 00.14.33 # excellent work 00.14.43 # cheers mk 00.14.44 # i love the action-packed boot logos 00.15.03 # it's like, foosh, foosh, zing, pow, pop pop, woosh, woosh 00.15.08 # 0000000000000000b 00.15.20 # mk: the end game was gonna be awesome in comparison, but I need to do a LOT of work to stop it from trashing rockbox 00.15.35 # Strath: vey weird 00.15.40 # hmm well still, very nice work there! 00.15.44 # and of course the cards + gameplay 00.16.05 # it's just doing a blind disasm of whatever biniary data is in the file 00.16.10 # kaboofa, me and who else is working on a calculator> 00.16.11 # ? 00.16.19 # uh 00.16.20 # meh 00.16.26 # dunno 00.16.43 # the emu code will add tracing and analysis to it 00.16.48 DBUG Enqueued KICK BlueChip 00.16.48 # tom norris and 01 tinousus 00.17.06 # :) 00.17.13 # ahh 00.17.17 # kaboofa, did you see my post on sqrt 00.17.37 # squirty! 00.17.37 # Strath: btw, did you manage to pack your gmini back correctly ? had some trouble with mine 00.17.38 # Strath: very nice 00.17.44 Quit mattzz ("Client exiting") 00.18.15 # heh, well, since i've now had it apart *twice* it's getting easier :) 00.18.30 # check: "fuse repair" 00.18.35 # bc: yeah 00.18.37 # i'm looking at it ;) 00.18.38 # with the rv->sqrt 00.18.42 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 8 seconds at the last flood 00.18.42 # * kaboofa checks now 00.18.45 Quit G|-|0ST () 00.18.46 # eh 00.18.48 # kaboofa ...did it make sense? 00.18.49 # where is thunderbird 00.18.51 # hold on 00.19.18 # what's yer e-mail addy? 00.22.02 Nick BlueChip is now known as bc|bbs (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 00.22.02 DBUG Enqueued KICK bc|bbs 00.23.18 Nick bc|bbs is now known as BlooChip (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 00.23.18 DBUG Enqueued KICK BlooChip 00.23.18 *** Alert Mode level 1 00.23.31 # (sooner than even I thought!) 00.25.15 # bloochippy 00.25.36 # OT: A friend who runs an ISP has warned me that this virus is ready to hit the streets tomorrow/tuesday (bank hol mon in UK) 00.25.36 # http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_SASSER.A 00.25.52 # mk: lol 00.28.38 Quit AciD ("Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95") 00.33.19 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.38.06 # grrr 00.38.24 # ? 00.38.28 # well, gtg 00.38.36 # his dog just walked over the kbd - lol 00.40.45 # let me try! 00.40.51 # *pounds on kbd 00.40.54 # kxz.,sdcd,lc,l f vlk, jlk,k,lv j 00.40.56 # how'd i do? 00.41.03 # mmmm 00.41.13 # no, that looked more like a hampster - LOL 00.41.17 # i hope there is a new episode of the simpsons on tonight. 00.41.38 # hampster HAHA noooooooooooosors 00.41.39 # simpsons article on slashdot 00.41.40 # okies? 00.41.42 # brb 00.41.49 # bc: about the actors, yes? 00.41.49 # i plan on eating ice cream mm'kay? 00.41.50 # or voicers.. 00.41.54 # whatever the hell they are nameed 00.41.56 # *named 00.42.11 # yes, but it implies another four years of production :) 00.44.52 # WOOHOO Win98 Service Pack released :) 00.45.02 # HAHA nice try bc 00.45.22 # I'm serious! 00.45.30 # read slashdot :) 00.46.24 # Strath: have you begun writing a scrambler tool ? which produces an encrypted/packed firmware from an executable ? 00.46.43 # If you haven't I'll begin this tomorrow 00.46.49 # heh, i'd say it'd take maybe a half hour to do so 00.46.59 # (using "fake" compression) 00.47.17 # (ie. all flags = 1) 00.47.33 # yup, i'd say one or two hours 00.47.44 # heh, slow poke 00.47.46 # with debugging ;) 00.48.28 # goota ago 00.48.30 # bye 00.48.32 Quit diddystar5 ("Leaving") 00.48.47 # Strath: do you plan to do it ? 00.49.26 # if you'd like, though i didn't see a need till we understood the internals better 00.49.52 # you wanna do the stuff in the TODO header of aostool? 00.50.26 # let me check 00.50.44 # why not 00.51.06 # that + scrambling ok ? 00.51.31 # and I'll have a loot at gcc .md files after this 00.52.09 # which files are posing problem ? i've the 1.20/30/50/90 00.52.19 # s/posing/causing 00.53.46 # well, need to go, I'm up in about 5 hours 00.53.48 # :( 00.54.00 # but I need to sleep first :) 00.54.33 # c u 00.54.40 # nite LaurentG 00.55.01 Quit LaurentG ("thx") 00.56.24 # brb 00.56.35 Quit top_bloke ("The mind is a terrible thing to taste. Wasted 0 seconds online.") 00.56.52 # heh.... 00.57.16 # now with the make file, gcc is bitching about everything 01.00.29 # bak 01.00.33 # BC 01.00.33 # BC 01.00.54 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 minute and 16 seconds at the last flood 01.00.54 # * BlooChip looks around for the source of the strange noise 01.01.10 # eight is equal to D. 01.02.16 # BlooChip: Trying different languages? How about BlauSpan? 01.02.20 # ;-) 01.02.27 # lol 01.03.14 # German? 01.03.35 # I'm signing off now. I posted my results to the listserv. I'm testing limited-time recording now. 01.03.44 # LMAO - that makes me "BS" 01.03.44 Quit DHS () 01.05.52 # go go BS 01.06.12 # how do you know I have no t-shirt on? 01.06.38 # you think i can't see you? 01.06.49 # *stares across the street and through window 01.06.59 # * BlooChip pulls a moon 01.07.16 # ami: did you think any more on a sprite engine? 01.07.19 # *quickly whips head back to irc 01.07.53 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@c-24-98-120-210.atl.client2.attbi.com) 01.08.11 # I found my mates ebay name the other day - checked his recent purchases ...monopoly board ...stng manual ...US quarters ...bondage whip - LMAO 01.08.23 # hrm... 01.09.09 # what does ' := ' mean in a make file? 01.09.09 # Hey guys.. I was wondering if anyone here is good with the internal hardware of the AV300 series : ) 01.09.24 # BlooChip: Not yet. 01.09.28 # LOL BC 01.09.36 # possibly try #avos?? 01.10.02 Part Guest 01.10.15 # you're welcome 01.10.33 # did the monopoly board contain the little pieces too? 01.10.43 # Time to sleep. Nite all 01.10.44 # like the little sewing machine and the little boot 01.10.47 # nite ami 01.10.47 # nite am 01.10.48 # ami* 01.10.49 # i 01.10.49 # thanks 01.10.59 Part amiconn 01.11.14 # guess so 01.11.35 # mm kinky 01.13.55 # * BlooChip goes in search of more caffeine... 01.14.17 # try mixing veggie oil with soda pop 01.14.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.22.06 # hmm 01.22.12 # i think i'm going to build an arc furnace 01.22.20 # need to find graphite rods.... 01.24.37 # rust & tin foil does quite well - lol 01.24.46 # LOL 01.24.50 # heh 01.24.52 # no 01.24.54 # kaboofa 01.24.59 # try a blast furnace 01.25.02 # blast your face off 01.25.04 # no no 01.25.19 # i'm making an arc furnace 01.25.21 # blast ... something else off 01.25.25 # it just uses a shitload of electricity 01.25.39 # no swearing asshole! 01.25.44 # acl ;x 01.25.46 # *ack 01.25.47 # sorry man 01.25.58 # jeesus dipshits 01.26.03 # bad vocab habbits 01.26.16 # no fucking respect these days 01.26.25 # you'll get kicked! 01.26.34 # 0 items found for arc furnace 01.26.35 # pfft 01.26.37 # you suck ebay 01.26.43 # try blast furnace 01.26.45 # http://www.steel.org/learning/howmade/eaf.htm 01.26.55 # I KNOW how to make it 01.26.58 # i need the rods though 01.27.08 # search for blast furncae. 01.27.10 # pencils are made of graphite 01.27.10 # FURNCASE 01.27.13 # FUNARC 01.27.15 # GOD 01.27.18 # fur. nace. 01.27.21 # they need to big though. 01.27.43 # big comedy sea side pencil big? 01.28.03 # eh? 01.28.22 # giant pencils you buy at the seaside 01.28.31 # no swearing bc 01.29.10 # hmmm 01.29.15 # sorry ...01giant pencils you purchase at the seaside 01.29.22 # i could buy a digital scale and sell it to the druggies at school 01.29.27 # no implications either 01.29.33 # HAHAH 01.30.48 # http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11814&item=3812932313&rd=1 01.30.52 # hmmm 01.31.28 # http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=4146756343 01.31.57 # o.o 01.32.03 # is that a man wearing it? 01.32.05 # nice work. 01.32.16 # you gotta read the write up 01.32.25 # i laughed so hard i actually cried 01.32.36 # 13 million hits 01.32.52 # what 01.32.58 # WHAT 01.33.43 # Seller's payment instructions & return policy: 01.33.43 # Buyer pays shipping and handling. Sale is final. Marriage isn't. 01.33.53 # LOL 01.34.48 # ahh 01.34.50 # i love my rockbox 01.34.53 # :) 01.34.58 # carnally? 01.35.05 # no, metaphorically 01.35.23 # cool - not sure the electronics would survive 01.35.36 # LOL 01.58.49 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.58.57 # God, I wish I understood this Othelo code - lol 01.59.38 Join deadite66 [0] (~Miranda@cpc1-yarm1-5-0-cust53.pete.cable.ntl.com) 02.00.05 # peterborough? 02.00.09 # LOL 02.00.19 # erm 02.00.58 # ntl are sods for announcing your home town 02.01.26 # yep great yarmouth here 02.01.32 # colchester 02.01.34 # :) 02.01.41 # here 02.23.17 # man 02.23.33 # i really wish that these sound plugins for 1964 would work better :X 02.23.54 # ??? 02.24.54 Join deadite66-2 [0] (~Miranda@cpc1-yarm1-5-0-cust53.pete.cable.ntl.com) 02.34.52 Nick midk is now known as midk|brb (mk@ACA4F076.ipt.aol.com) 02.41.12 Quit deadite66 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.45.58 # http://kaboofa.liek.us/images/powerbook_xray.jpg 02.45.59 # leet 02.49.28 # kewl 02.49.51 # your work? 02.57.05 Nick midk|brb is now known as midk (mk@ACA4F076.ipt.aol.com) 03.10.30 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.11.31 Quit deadite66-2 ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.14.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.42.40 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 05.07.38 Quit BlooChip (Excess Flood) 05.08.35 Join BlooChip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 05.10.03 Part BlooChip 05.10.56 Join BlooChip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 05.14.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.56.49 Part BlooChip 06.37.32 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.42.28 Quit midk () 06.50.29 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 07.09.04 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 07.14.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.21.08 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@105.cust40.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 07.29.09 Quit Urgo (Connection timed out) 07.45.14 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.45.15 Nick [1]c0utta is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@105.cust40.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 07.52.07 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FE64.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.10.18 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.10.41 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-73-124.reverse.qsc.de) 08.10.41 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 08.12.01 # hey linusN 08.20.09 # Hi LinusN 08.29.16 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9FF8AC7.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.29.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> morning Linus, Jens, world 08.32.03 # morning Jörg 08.32.52 # yo d00dz 08.33.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> huh? 08.50.50 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 08.50.50 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.14.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.23.08 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 09.31.13 Join mattzz [0] (~c2af7556@c231002.adsl.hansenet.de) 09.33.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> too boring here... 09.33.24 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 09.41.07 # How can I prevent SAPI (.tbx clip generation) to read underscores and stuff like that? 09.56.38 # remove them before sending the strings to SAPI? 10.10.31 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 10.15.11 # I was hoping for something like a configuration switch.... 10.16.12 # I dont know much of vbs programming. 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Have to leave .. :-(") 11.14.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.55.05 Join groovingandi [0] (~andi@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de) 12.00.35 Nick groovingandi is now known as groovingandi|lun (~andi@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de) 12.01.04 Nick groovingandi|lun is now known as grooving|lunch (~andi@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de) 12.02.19 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.35.51 Quit c0utta (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.42.38 Nick grooving|lunch is now known as groovingandi (~andi@proxy-out.lrz-muenchen.de) 13.11.09 Quit groovingandi ("Verlassend") 13.11.56 # LinusN, listening? 13.14.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.26.43 # nite... 13.26.47 Quit Strath ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7b/20040316]") 13.59.03 # amiconn: i'm here 14.02.32 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 14.07.13 Join c0utta [0] (~c0utta@105.cust40.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 14.07.16 # LinusN: Sorry for pestering you again, but I would like to take a look at your LA measurements of my new recording routines very much. 14.07.54 # i'll see what i can do, lots of work at present 14.08.31 # short-term consulting assignments tend to leave little room for "other stuff" :-) 14.09.12 # doh! 14.09.22 # amiconn: you run a windows bow, right? 14.09.26 # box 14.09.28 # yup 14.10.02 # install this: http://www.acute.com.tw/software/la1000p/la17203.zip 14.11.01 # This is the LA sw you use, I guess? So I can view the raw data files? 14.11.11 # yes 14.11.17 # i'll email you the files 14.12.04 # arnold-j@...bla bla? 14.12.11 # yup 14.12.17 # sent 14.12.41 # Very nice. 14.12.55 # why didn't i think of thet earlier? 14.13.49 # How could I know? 14.14.31 # silly me 14.15.37 # i can send you the old files when i come home 14.17.47 # The images of the old measurements are still online at http://linus.haxx.se/recording/ iirc, so no need for this. 14.18.19 # ok 14.51.52 Part LinusN 15.14.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.25.47 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a4324b.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 16.36.15 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 16.36.34 Join McBill [0] (McBill@81.10.15.101) 16.36.41 # lo 16.37.28 # does anyone know if Spinrite will support the archos hard drive or not? 17.08.35 Join quelsaruk [0] (~2322@193.136.159.164) 17.08.38 # hi 17.14.41 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 17.33.14 Quit quelsaruk () 17.33.33 Quit McBill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.48.47 Join jakesir [0] (solaris@pool-141-157-13-37.balt.east.verizon.net) 17.49.25 Quit jakesir (Client Quit) 18.05.31 Join Strath [0] (aopen@dgvlwinas01pool0-a201.wi.tds.net) 18.33.30 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.35.29 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp86.contactor.se) 18.49.59 Join cjnr11 [0] (~dfd@bobillot-5-82-224-193-23.fbx.proxad.net) 18.50.07 Part cjnr11 18.54.17 Join Guest [0] (jirc@h-68-167-218-30.nycmny83.covad.net) 18.54.44 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 19.06.42 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9D7F.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.14.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.33 Join pfavr [0] (pfavr@dyna218-088.nada.kth.se) 19.18.04 Quit pfavr (Client Quit) 19.22.16 Join cjnr11 [0] (~dfd@bobillot-5-82-224-193-23.fbx.proxad.net) 19.22.38 Part cjnr11 19.41.59 Join funkymonkey [0] (methangas@0x50a4324b.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 19.42.07 Quit methangas (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.03.51 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 20.04.39 Join pfavr [0] (pfavr@t4o61p257.telia.com) 20.08.51 Quit Strath ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7b/20040316]") 20.33.15 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 20.44.43 Join louie-dog [0] (louie@dhcp1487.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 20.46.35 # can someone tell me how to hard reset my v2 recorder? i had to do it once before but i've forgotten and i've looked all over the site with no luck 20.49.56 # hmm 20.50.00 # try taking out the batteries 20.50.31 # kind of difficult on a v2 20.50.36 # there's a button combo that does it 20.50.45 # maybe i'm just not holding them down long enough 20.50.49 # oh 20.50.50 # nm 20.50.54 # sorry :X 20.51.06 # ah there we go 20.51.09 # it was f1 + off 20.51.14 # i was just not doing it long enough 20.54.43 Part amiconn 21.14.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.21.12 Join LaurentG [0] (~laurent@dyn-83-155-104-213.ppp.tiscali.fr) 21.31.02 # Hi 21.48.34 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.48.47 # hi 21.49.00 # hey 22.17.38 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@97.cust38.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 22.33.33 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.33.39 Nick [1]c0utta is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@97.cust38.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 22.38.08 Quit funkymonkey (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- :P") 22.47.21 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9FF8AC7.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.48.01 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@67.cust40.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 22.48.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> good evening! 22.48.14 # same for you 22.57.51 Join Erl_ [0] (~erl@as19-6-1.s.bonet.se) 22.58.15 # Hey Laurent! 22.58.37 # hi 22.59.09 # I've been reading the logs about what you've been doing reverse-engineering the gmini 220, and it looks very interesting. 22.59.32 # I'm considering getting one, and being able to hack the "os" would be really cool. 23.00.18 # ...maybe I could help out at some point figuring out disassembled code or whatever. 23.00.28 Join McBill [0] (McBill@81.10.15.95) 23.01.22 # I thought I saw somewhere that there was a Cygnus gcc for the assembler of the Gmini, is that wrong? 23.01.35 # I saw you say earlier I think that there was no gcc for it. 23.03.07 # ping? 23.04.48 # what is the most powerfull Archos product? (it is my next step) 23.05.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> define powerful 23.05.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> capacity? enrgy consumption? 23.05.26 # Erl_: that's the 120, not the 220 :) 23.06.02 # Define may mean full multimedia feature and more customized OS 23.06.08 # Ok, I thougth you were working on the 220. Hm. Do you know how similar the hw is? 23.06.11 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.06.11 Nick [1]c0utta is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@67.cust40.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 23.06.14 # *powerful I mean 23.06.17 # (comparing 120 and 220) 23.06.24 # Erl_: there's a gcc for it, but it has not been made public by Samsung, I found about in on a Korean university page 23.06.33 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/1]") 23.06.53 # Erl_: but Strath has found a datasheet with the assembly language specs, so we can now write a gcc for it 23.06.56 # That's interesting in itself, wouldn't it be possible to force them to publish it due to the GPL? 23.07.17 # Many years ago I took a shot at writing a gcc back-end, and it was a pain. 23.07.47 # Erl_: the GPL only forces them to give the sources to people they give/sell the compiler, not to everyone 23.08.41 # I thought all modifications had to be published and contributed back to the project... But I may be wrong. 23.08.46 # moreover, there's also a non-gcc commercial compiler, that's the one they probably distribute 23.09.12 # But then again, frankly I think coding in assembler is underrated. 23.09.13 # Erl_: only to people to whom you give the binary 23.09.28 # But the first step has to be to write an assembler, I guess. 23.09.52 # a disassembler I'd say, then an assembler ;) 23.11.08 # Right, but Strath has a first shot at a disassembler, right? 23.11.35 # Is your aim to port rockbox or write a sw pretty much from scratch? 23.13.17 # I'd prefer to avoid reinventing the wheel ;) 23.13.24 # Actually the cpu I tried to write a back-end to gcc for years ago was also a 16 bit CPU, and that was part of the problem, I think gcc is much harder to port to a 16 bit CPU than 32 bit, because it pretty much assumes 32 bits as I recall 23.13.28 # but others might think differentely 23.13.50 # True (about the wheel), but I guess it depends on how well the wheel fits your cart, too :-) 23.13.53 # * McBill thanks LaurentG very much 23.13.56 # cya all 23.14.03 # bye McBill 23.14.19 # bye 23.14.20 Quit McBill () 23.14.47 # Erl_: sure 23.14.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.15.44 # I don't know enough about Rockbox to know how it would suit smaller devices. 23.17.10 # me neither 23.17.58 # I wonder if there might be other free C compilers that might be easier to port to a 16 bit CPU than gcc. 23.19.12 # lcc maybe 23.19.27 # Yeah, I remember hearing about lcc. 23.20.12 # but, gcc was "ported" to 8 bits cpu, it can produce code for the z80, 6502 and 6809 as far as I know, so it's doable even if painful :) 23.27.09 *** Started Dancer V4.16p1 23.27.09 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) 23.27.09 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) 23.27.09 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) 23.27.09 DEBUG 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