--- Log for 13.05.104 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 day and 7 hours ago 00.01.27 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 00.02.24 Quit edx () 00.04.06 # i'm confused (but then I *am blonde) ....someone (dont recall who) said the SH1 had only Shift Left/Right by ONE ...a quick flick through the manual leads me to deduce that this is inaccurate 00.05.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> it doesn't have shift by n, that's the problem 00.05.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> (making JPEG slow) 00.05.38 # what is SHLLn then? 00.05.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> to the right, then? 00.06.04 # SHLRn 00.06.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> hang on 00.06.21 # page 88 00.06.37 # For SHLLn / SHLRn, n is a constant, and can only be 2, 8, or 16 00.06.45 # you sure? 00.06.50 # yup 00.07.32 # have you tried the other opcodes? 00.08.30 # See pages 222 and 225 of the programming manual for a detailed description 00.09.00 # right there 00.09.18 # SHLL2 R Rn << 2 ® Rn 0100nnnn000010001 00.09.21 # nnnn 00.09.32 # what happens if you use a.n.other value? 00.10.00 # oh! dumb ass me 00.10.07 # nnnn is the bllomin register, not the shift! 00.10.19 # D'OH 00.10.37 # ;) 00.10.51 # has anyone checked for undocced instructions 00.12.39 # [IDC]Dragon: Why would "shift by n" help the jpeg? 00.14.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> because of shifting the bits out for huffman bit source, and scaling power-of-two 00.15.44 Join midk [0] (mk@172.193.29.232) 00.15.48 # Ah ok. 00.19.26 Part NukNuk 00.20.21 Quit KickIn () 00.20.50 # Conversion of gray_drawbitmap() to use rockbox bitmap format done. Still have to write a description of that format that really makes sense. 00.24.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.25.38 # midk: I read information on your keyboard makeover patch. Is there a numeric-only keyboard planned ? Would be nice for applications like calculator and so on. 00.29.11 # hi midk 00.29.20 # äh ? 00.29.21 # er 00.29.24 # LOL 00.29.25 # i mean 00.29.27 # hi lImbus 00.29.36 # good evening midknight 00.29.47 # there's a calculator patch... although a numeric keypad is a good idea 00.29.56 # sample output from gmemu: http://www.donat.org/michael/archos/temp/jog.txt 00.30.31 # yeah, I saw the calc, the solution is nice, but I thought about something like rb->kbd_numinput() 00.30.58 # yeah the only problem with that is we'd have a fixed layout really 00.31.27 # (and the current bug...) 00.31.30 # bbi10 00.31.55 # that's ok, I imagine a keyboard with a numpad, some stuff like .-/+*#%& that would suit to type in stuff with mainly numbers 00.32.15 # well 00.32.18 # did you try the shift key 00.32.19 # ? 00.32.27 # there's different modes if you didn't see 00.32.32 # i should revive that patch... 00.33.23 # err, I didn't try shift on your patch as I had probs applying it on my cvs-version 00.34.02 # i fiddled around a bit, and now nothing is matching anymore 00.34.08 # ok, tell you what 00.34.16 # i think i'll revive that today possibly or friday 00.34.42 # woha. will it stay a patch, or will it find a way to the cvs ? 00.35.12 # a patch at least first off 00.35.18 # it may make it to cvs eventually 00.35.49 Join wake [0] (~wake@69.158.33.43) 00.36.35 # I don't really understand why some good stuff is not going to cvs. best example is that calc-plugin what just runs nice, can't break up something else, is not tampering around in other files, ... 00.37.21 # yeah 00.37.21 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.37.37 # just waiting till the creator really says he's done with it 00.38.02 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 00.38.59 # oh, of course, because heself would not be able to commit into cvs. 00.39.10 # not nice either 00.39.23 # well if anybody could commit then they could mess up rockbox 00.39.30 # there's a reason that most can't 00.39.37 # the devs decide if they like something 00.39.41 # man this calulator is pimp 00.39.45 # of course. 00.39.53 # ooj 00.40.02 # wow it works 00.40.12 # damn even does sqrt 00.40.19 # and decimals 00.40.31 # lol - says bye now when u quit 00.40.53 # COOL 00.41.06 # u notice 00.41.11 # yeah duh. 00.41.15 # boo 00.50.15 Quit midk () 00.51.45 # did the calc acquire the codic trig functions? 00.52.14 # wha 00.52.15 # yay... stack bug corrected 00.52.56 # i dont see any trig funcs 00.53.11 # is the guy who wrote it here? 00.53.36 # Submitted By: 00.53.36 # Isaac - lefthands 00.53.44 # i dont think so 00.53.53 # After i gave him the sqrt() fn, he asked about trig - wondered if he had got codic trig to work 00.54.31 # it says Add sin, cos function, delete "Del","CE" button 00.54.47 # aha, still to be done :) 00.55.01 # [IDC]Dragon: Do you know who "invented" the internal rockbox bitmap format in the first place? 00.55.41 # I now have some suspicions why lcd_bitmap doesn't work for heights > 8. 00.56.28 # double cordicTable[51][2]= { 00.56.30 # This does really have to do with that weird format. Perhaps even the original inventor didn't get it 100% 00.56.34 # looks like it is on the way :) 00.57.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: probably it represents the LCD memory layout? 00.57.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> lcd_bitmap still doesn't work? 00.58.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> I never cared, just heared rumours that it's fixed. 00.58.28 # Yes it does (now), but it is described wrong. lcd_bitmap() uses the wrong description for reading the source, but the right layout to write to the destination. 00.58.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> Is font rendering not done with that 00.58.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> ? 00.59.45 # ("It does" means representing the framebuffer layout) 01.01.21 # Next thing I will have to do is looking at the font code, especially how font heights > 8 are handled there. 01.01.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> yeah, maybe there's something fishy. 01.02.20 # Maybe that the odd behaviour of lcd_bitmap() is accounted for in the font code, adding some more odd-looking code. 01.02.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> ;-) 01.03.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> anyway, JPEG committed, I'm off for bed. 01.03.17 # It is definitely impossible to show the Rockbox logo (at boot / in info menu) in one chunk with the current lcd_bitmap() 01.03.39 # I've committed my grayscale update as well. 01.04.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> seen that, my code now has to stick with the old one. 01.05.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> at what time is the daily bild made? 01.05.27 # Dunno 01.06.01 # You didn't take out a single function of my framework 01.06.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> I hope it's in tomorrow 01.06.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> no, as I said 01.06.13 # Do you really use all the functions? 01.06.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> not at all 01.07.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> I can still thin it out later 01.07.53 # I'm asking because you said that you are tight on code space... 01.08.18 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.12.38 # I'm off now 01.12.46 # nite ami 01.12.57 # nite all 01.13.01 Part amiconn 01.15.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> nite world 01.15.48 # just playing around with jpeg.rock, just awesome 01.15.51 # nite dude 01.15.52 # goote nite then 01.15.55 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 01.16.24 # JPEG.rock is out? 01.16.40 # yup, see cvs 01.16.54 # i see 01.17.01 # sweet gotta get it 01.18.29 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 16 hours and 40 minutes at the last flood 01.18.29 # * lImbus is currently reediting some nice pics of his car 01.21.43 # * bluEchiP is currently feeling mind-numbingly chuffed with his hyper-fast random number algorithm :) 01.21.55 # bluEchiP: what are you working on? 01.22.03 Quit AciD (Remote closed the connection) 01.22.23 # bluEchiP: can I get a copy of your solitaire game... 01.22.26 # aesthetically, my demo ...more to the point, it is a demo of a new set of high speed functions for games 01.24.06 # yes, it's all on my homepage :) 01.24.12 # bluEchiP: what is that? 01.24.20 # http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/Rockbox 01.25.23 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-05/0356.shtml 01.25.42 # u need Font9x9.h to make starfield? 01.25.48 # yes 01.25.53 # ok 01.26.10 # the source will be updated in the next 20 mins 01.26.41 # with what 01.26.50 # faster better tighter code :) 01.27.01 # ok 01.30.39 # who else is currently thinking a screensaver-plugin would be sweet ? 01.30.53 # I imagine a plugin that is activated 20 seconds after last keypress, showing the name of the current track in the biggest possible font 01.30.53 # go4it :) 01.31.22 # I think I am able to write the plugin, but not the process spawning it. 01.31.32 # good idea 01.31.46 # look at how the backlight switches off ;) 01.32.19 # ok, that's a good point, but still needs changes on core code 01.32.33 # i nkow what you mean 01.32.41 # bah i got tons of errors 01.32.43 # Starfield.c: In function `bc_line': 01.32.43 # Starfield.c:316: parse error before '||' token 01.33.05 # nm i'll get the rock 01.33.12 # the rock is way out of date 01.33.27 # well then whats with all the errors 01.33.40 # too busy chatting to fix them :( 01.33.46 # ok 01.34.05 # i'll get the out of date rock 01.36.44 # its my fault since jpeg gives errors too 01.37.11 # i was surprised i put up untested code - but this is my current project 01.38.05 # i think my build is too old 01.38.17 # im using april 12 irrc 01.38.22 # bluEchiP: is the demo on your homepage too? 01.38.38 # it will be in a few minutes 01.38.42 # yeah well im using march 12 01.38.58 # and today is May 12 01.43.16 # bluEchiP: what is the audio 3587? 01.43.38 # isn't that another chip ? 01.43.54 # thats the audio chip in the recorders 01.45.30 # what DOES the patch you posted ? 01.45.57 # controls the audio features of the 3587 01.46.44 # ahh, well, should've guessed. 01.46.50 # lol 01.47.11 # bluEchiP: err, something completely different: whut's that screensavers_menu.c i've got here in ~/apps/ ? 01.47.17 # it's empty ... 01.47.39 Join [1]c0utta [0] (~c0utta@115.cust35.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 01.48.10 # no idea, sorry 01.49.06 # mhmm. seems to me somebody else (with cvs-permissions) thought some of my ideas before. 01.49.16 Quit c0utta (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.49.21 Nick [1]c0utta is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@115.cust35.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 01.51.32 # bluEchiP: nice klondike -- you should use the grayscale routines though! 01.51.38 # lol 01.51.50 # they are part of the plugin interface now though... 01.52.04 # yeah - got promised help from three people with Klondike 01.52.15 # scott came through with three lines of code :) 01.56.12 # but those three lines are AWESOME 01.56.28 # hey there dude - LOL - how's it hangin' :) 01.56.43 # heh 01.57.26 # I might even highlight them next time i'm in the code - just cos I think stuff like that is funny 01.58.00 # lol 01.58.06 # already done it :) 01.58.27 # not the specific lines of code, but the sections you helped wth 02.22.54 # can somebody confirm that the numerical battery info is broken ? works only in graphical mode on my machine 02.24.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.40.35 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.42.27 Quit lImbus (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") 02.46.10 # hey top_bloke, you still there? 02.47.47 # apparently not 02.47.50 # lol 02.47.55 # lol 02.47.59 # beat me to it :P 02.49.31 # * scott666 wonders how this can be legal... 02.49.33 # http://www.allofmp3.com/wanted.shtml?action=wanted 02.49.50 # who's legal system governs it? 02.50.10 # if you have a cd they want, you can rip it and upload it to them, and theyll add 2x teh file size worth of downloads to your account 02.50.24 # remember socialism is all about sharing amongst the people 02.50.25 # in soviet russia mp3 downloads you 02.50.29 # LOL 02.51.13 # so im uploading 3 cds and getting like 750MB of free downloads 02.51.28 # you ARE or you COULD? 02.51.35 # am 02.51.45 # im on the third one 02.51.46 # top class 02.51.58 # the list of CDs they want is pretty small 02.52.27 # errrrr, that link is all in russian 02.52.40 # look at the top left corner 02.52.45 # ta 02.52.47 # should be an 'english' link 02.53.03 # apparently language settings are in the cookie 02.54.08 Join midk [0] (mk@ACC8C507.ipt.aol.com) 02.54.21 # dont store any cookes on my machine :) 02.54.39 # hey im here now 02.54.51 # new starfield stuff is up 02.55.02 # nice 02.55.06 # now will it compile 02.55.18 # on my machine or yours? 02.55.26 # lol 02.55.34 # good question 02.55.37 # lol 02.55.47 # touche 02.55.53 # touch? 02.56.02 # mid u back? 02.56.13 # midk: it's pronounced like too-shay 02.56.13 # well obviously 02.56.15 # no i'm a midbot 02.56.18 # no killin' some people 02.56.29 # midk: like in fencing or whatever 02.56.30 # heh 02.56.34 # *pokes ze 02.56.54 # i need vision therapy 02.57.03 # i need all those bc_things? 02.57.05 # *pokes ze's face off 02.57.08 # *touché 02.57.09 # yep 02.57.22 # ooohhh, someone found the alt-gr key - lol 02.57.31 # heh 02.57.47 # gr? 02.57.57 # i don't even have support for viewing that charset properly in irc as it is 02.57.57 # ... 02.58.12 # so that accented e or whatever thing looks like an O with a horizonal line through it sorta 02.58.16 # heh 02.58.31 # can i plug my ac adaptor into your surge protector? 02.58.46 # midk: sicko 02.58.53 # ..? 02.58.58 # ze: called "theta" 02.59.01 # / 02.59.01 # e 02.59.24 # bluEchiP: yeah? in which language? 02.59.37 # greek, makes the sound "thu" 02.59.56 # oh the symbol i was talking about, i see 03.00.00 # Ø 03.00.07 # yeah, that 03.00.08 # ? 03.00.20 # stupid theta... 03.00.27 # wellnow that looks, to me, like a vertical line with a double-horizontal line going through it 03.00.38 # that's not a theta 03.00.45 # you need glasses 03.00.57 # theta is O with a HORIZONTAL line through it 03.00.59 # no it's just as i was saying, my charset isn't set to match 03.01.10 # sorry, AN horizontal line 03.01.13 # the lines diagonal to me 03.01.28 # that's cos it's not a theta - lol 03.01.30 # the accented e shows up to me as a theta, while the theta shows up as the verticle line with a = through it 03.01.32 # i thought it was A horizontal ??? 03.01.34 # heh 03.01.46 # (brit) 03.01.54 # heh 03.01.54 # haha 03.02.05 # no "HO..." is prefixed "an" and technically you should not pronounce the H 03.02.27 # but u do say the H in horizontal right 03.02.35 # i pronounce the H 03.02.41 # am i weird 03.02.41 # what about wh? 03.02.47 # ? 03.02.50 # do brits confuse whores with ores? 03.02.54 # mk: yeah, but you use "infer" when you mean "imply" - lol 03.02.55 # ah that was a theta i think 03.02.59 # bc 03.03.03 # infer is the same 03.03.09 # no in English 03.03.09 # ? 03.03.12 # not* 03.03.13 # can anyone see it 03.03.15 # did you get that definition? 03.03.19 # sorry i don't talk bc's way 03.03.36 # aren't like infer and imply the opposite ends of the same thing? 03.03.37 # O 03.03.42 # ze 03.03.44 # like you can infer what somebody implied 03.03.47 # not in American 03.03.50 # in the dictionary it also says infer is to imply 03.04.08 # i still get errors 03.04.11 # but is to imply to infer? 03.04.13 # different ones this time 03.04.13 # dahahaha 03.04.16 # imply=suggest, infer=deduce 03.04.25 # bluEchiP: yeah 03.04.27 # infer ALSO = suggest 03.04.35 # only in US 03.04.40 # fine 03.04.41 # midk = wrong 03.04.42 # i've never seen infer used in that sense 03.04.43 # not even in the US 03.04.44 # heh 03.04.52 # errors 03.04.52 # scott check out dictionary.com 03.04.54 # inferring is something done in interpretation 03.05.10 # mk will say 2dictionary.com" in a moment... 03.05.21 # oop - beaten to it 03.05.23 # hee hee i am so rotflmaoacs 03.05.32 # best dictionary is at www.m-w.com 03.05.37 # http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=infer 03.05.37 # dictionary.com sucks 03.05.39 # in·fer ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-fûr) 03.05.40 # v. in·ferred, in·fer·ring, in·fers 03.05.40 # v. tr. 03.05.40 DBUG Enqueued KICK midk 03.05.40 # 1. To conclude from evidence or premises. 03.05.40 # 2. To reason from circumstance; surmise: We can infer that his motive in publishing the diary was less than honorable. 03.05.41 *** Alert Mode level 1 03.05.41 # 3. To lead to as a consequence or conclusion: “Socrates argued that a statue inferred the existence of a sculptor” (Academy). 03.05.44 # 4. To hint; imply. 03.05.50 # yeah i like m-w.com which is also accessable btw as webster.com (iirc) 03.05.53 # tops its just that google links to dictionary.com 03.06.09 # o i c 03.06.12 # check m-w too then 03.06.21 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 03.06.21 # * scott666 has dictionary.com in his firefox search bar 03.06.32 # * ze has both 03.06.51 # and also them all in a right-click query to... menu 03.06.54 # 4 : SUGGEST, HINT 03.07.01 # anyone got a password for oed.com? 03.08.03 # along with a handful of cambridge dictionaries, ebay, the various other googles, imdb, wikipedia, sourceforge, freshmeat, etymology dictionary, and amazon 03.09.15 # oh no, midk was right about something 03.09.35 # ...shouldnt the world have exploded by now? 03.09.38 # scott: ? 03.09.40 # had to happen eventually 03.09.45 # lol 03.09.51 # no, i have a paper bag over my head 03.09.57 # (and trust me, i need it) 03.10.11 # damn slow-burning DVDs 03.10.13 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@216.194.24.148) 03.10.14 # you know the old thing about the infinite monkeys at typewriters 03.10.15 # *bc deduces that bc is ugly 03.10.17 # er 03.10.19 # *midk 03.10.25 # ze: yes 03.10.32 # u mean u INFER he's ugly 03.10.37 # LMAO 03.10.38 # no 03.10.39 # damn, beat me to it 03.10.41 # actually you know if you consider an infinite chaos, our whole universe as we know it would be found in some section of it 03.11.06 # along with every other finite and infinite ordering 03.11.17 # and every other universe that can be concieved of 03.11.23 # the monkey thing is a lot deeper than that, especially when misquoted along with evolutionary theory 03.11.30 # i want to tell a 6yo to draw 'infinite chaos' 03.11.35 # i think the results would be hilarious 03.11.46 # yeah - makes me think of earlier, when my random number generator was just not random enough - lol 03.12.01 # I want a very specific pattern in my random numbers 03.12.05 # hehe 03.12.12 # bc is such a... a... brainwasher 03.12.47 # thik yourself lucky, it works better and easier on smart people 03.12.48 # how could that be? he has such a dirty mind... 03.12.50 # i dunno why people think there's something wrong with having evolved from apes 03.12.53 # 03.12.56 # LOL 03.12.59 # i mean i don't see anybody turning their nose up at rags-to-riches stories 03.13.14 # go go mokey boy 03.13.20 # monkey 03.13.24 # you'd think we'd be proud of having advanced from humble origins like that 03.13.28 # ze: buts its perfectly ok for us to all be inbred (adam&eve) 03.13.47 Part midk 03.13.55 # adam had two sons ...one left the garden of eden to find a wife 03.14.10 # hepl me out here :) 03.14.27 # did he find one? i thought adam and eve were the only 2 03.14.29 # scott666: well actually i read something recently that said upon closer examination, inbreeding isn't necessarily a bad thing.. that the mutations that occur were traditionaly exagerated and generally contribute positively to genetic diversity (and may indeed be a mechanism specifically for that purpose) 03.15.10 # but inbreeding ONLY would be fatal 03.15.20 # yeah 03.15.39 # well and didnt eve come from one of his ribs? 03.15.42 *** Alert Mode OFF 03.15.52 # allegedly 03.15.53 # thats like cloning and only chagning a Y to an X 03.16.00 # well there wouldn't be inbreeding "ONLY" because the increased incidence of genetic mutations sorta disrelate the people don't they? heh 03.16.11 # hmmmmm 03.16.27 # we need another Noah incident so we can test the theory 03.16.54 # well, we got 8 years to set it up so we can actually observe what happens and not just die with everyone else 03.16.55 # yeah thats a good point, wed all have to come from noah and his wife, not adam and eve 03.16.58 # heh 03.17.00 # :p 03.17.23 # well 03.17.31 # noah and his wife would have to have come from adam and eve 03.17.38 # so it's not one or the other 03.17.39 # heh 03.17.42 # Noah got to take his sons 03.17.42 # ...anyone say Oedipus complex? 03.18.07 # * scott666 just read that in english 03.18.26 # download the tom lehrer track oedipus rex 03.18.35 # dinner's ready, bbl 03.18.43 # l8rz 03.19.23 # oedipus the king? 03.19.47 # i just read that too 03.20.07 # the greek guy who bonked his mum 03.20.28 # i have a test on that tomorrow... 03.20.40 # he didnt know it was his mum 03.20.46 # listen to the tom lehrer sng before tomorrow 03.20.50 # go to sparknotes.com 03.20.56 # yeah, neither did she 03.21.02 # we read most of it in class 03.21.31 # "and when found out what he'd done, he plucked his eyes out one-by-one" 03.22.31 # yeah 03.22.33 # i thought it was most like stabbing himself in the face 03.22.39 # *more 03.22.49 Join damaja [0] (damaja@cpc5-duns1-5-0-cust191.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 03.22.54 # hello 03.22.58 # it was his wife(moms) brooch i think 03.23.04 # yeah 03.23.17 # he grabbed it off her after they found out hse hung herself 03.23.25 # do any of you own a AV300? 03.23.46 # mid has an AVsomething 03.24.01 # midk disappeared 03.24.08 # dogger has one of the AVs 03.24.08 # try the #avos group? 03.24.35 # thanks 03.24.52 # right, dogger started AVos 03.35.09 Join midk [0] (mk@ACC8C507.ipt.aol.com) 03.35.12 Part midk 03.37.13 # oi scott, did you just pass wind? 03.47.11 # anyone get the JPEG to wrok? 03.47.21 # work 03.48.38 # i havnt tried it yet, im just gonna wait for tomorrows daily build 03.48.50 # its out on bleeding edge 03.48.59 # but i just get a black screen 03.49.07 #