--- Log for 18.05.104 Server: anthony.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 2 days and 6 hours ago 00.12.32 Join Eris [0] (~christi@client-207-p-2-lns.glfd.dial.virgin.net) 00.12.58 Nick Eris is now known as Christi-S_ (~christi@client-207-p-2-lns.glfd.dial.virgin.net) 00.13.12 # I hate dialup. 00.16.14 Quit Bagder ("Leaving") 00.31.16 Quit AciD ("ou double !") 00.32.01 Quit Christi-S (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.42.16 Join rodzilla [0] (~jirc@h0090271c0451.ne.client2.attbi.com) 00.44.33 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 00.44.40 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 00.48.32 Quit rodzilla ("Leaving") 01.15.23 Quit Christi-S_ ("If I were actually witty, this quitline would be funny.") 01.29.35 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@JRAF.org) 01.29.43 # Hellooooooooo 01.30.29 # * BlueChip whistles the bod theme music 01.30.59 # * kaboofa sets things on fire 01.31.09 # the more and more i have to use it, the more i hate java 01.31.19 # :))) 01.31.26 # i love Java 01.31.39 # hey you know what 01.31.45 # i'm not liking the way i have to do graphics :( 01.31.51 # I can't find any blt functions 01.31.59 # my whole Archos / Rockbox era ... is over 01.32.05 # i'm trying to make an asteroids clone w/ a friend 01.32.10 # I lost my ajbr20 01.32.44 # i think i'll buy an iriver to replace that 01.33.21 # I think i'm going to ignore graphics for now, and work on collision detection 01.33.48 # lol - invisible death 01.34.03 # ?? 01.34.21 # colliding with something you cannot see 01.34.30 # no no 01.34.34 # i mean, not drawing the graphics 01.34.50 # i know that all the ships are going to be 32x32 01.35.19 # isn't your asteoid vectorial ? 01.35.41 # no. 01.35.48 # chunk of screen space 32x32 01.35.50 # in a png file 01.36.00 # going to use circles are the 'bounding boxes' for asteroids 01.36.01 # too bad 01.36.04 # why? 01.36.16 # well the original is vectorial :) 01.36.22 # I know 01.36.25 # that's cooler, you can zoom 01.36.30 # square ships - "In this modern implementation of Asteroids you get to fly a Borg Cube" :) 01.36.35 # Lol 01.36.35 # you can play it on a lazer thing 01.36.50 # you can play it on an osc :)) 01.36.56 # lol 01.36.56 # BlueChip: png has an alpha layer :P 01.37.14 # kaboofa: Bluechip has a weird sense of humour :D 01.37.45 # I know :) 01.37.54 # hee hee 01.38.41 # I decided a long time ago that if I could make everything that happens funny/funnier, I would be happy/happier more often ...so far seems to be working 01.40.25 # so anyway 01.40.27 # i'm sad 01.40.31 # i lost my archos :( 01.41.00 # lost? 01.41.39 # yeah 01.41.43 # it was in my pocket 01.41.50 # it fell somehow 01.41.59 # and i was drunk so i forgot i had it 01.42.03 # remembered the next day 01.42.10 # bugger :( 01.42.11 # but it was too late, somebody took it 01.42.29 # yeah it sux 01.42.42 # ok, it wasn't the best 01.42.52 # Are you gonna get another, or get an iPod next? 01.42.58 # but i planned to keep it at least one or two more years 01.43.13 # well i'm sure I won't get an archos 01.43.19 # but maybe iRiver 01.43.26 # why not an archos? 01.43.26 # or maybe the creative things 01.43.48 # well i've had problems with my unit 01.43.56 # bad soldering 01.44.08 # and i decided i won't buy archos again 01.44.32 # you can port rockbox to your new unit :) 01.44.37 # plus the bad attitude with the firmware thing 01.44.49 # plus they're ugly ;))) 01.47.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.49.24 # Give me NiMHs & Hacked Firmware anyday 01.49.32 # :) 01.49.50 # although, the iPod is a truly awesome bit of kit 01.51.59 # plus you can install linux on it 01.52.12 # and so, java 01.52.20 # which is retarded. 01.52.23 # erm 01.52.25 # so you can play your asteroids game on it 01.52.25 # nm 01.52.31 # doubtful 01.52.34 # :) 01.52.39 # the only reason i'm using java is because i'm FORCED to use java. 01.52.45 # so i'm going to go all out and show the teacher up 01.52.56 # good man 01.53.44 # what is your language of choice 01.53.48 # C 01.53.51 # or asm 01.53.58 # with the win32 api 01.53.58 # héhé wow 01.54.07 # win32 - ouch! 01.54.20 # asm on win32 ? 01.54.22 # bc: largest end user base right now. 01.54.23 # wowo 01.54.50 # kab: agreed, but it's still horrible to use, especially in asm 01.54.52 # but if you like win32 maybe you'll like .net ? 01.54.59 # and/or c# 01.55.01 # I like the vs.net ide 01.55.11 # i'm not a big fan of c# because it doesn't compile to native code 01.55.22 # I love the vs.net ide actually 01.55.26 # and the MSDN cds I get :) 01.55.46 # yeah but then you can run it on different platforms 01.56.13 # yeah, so far c# runs on windows and uh... windows 01.56.19 # and linux if you have gnu's patches 01.56.23 # or whatever they did 01.57.07 # SO 01.57.11 # c# rulez 01.57.13 # :) 01.57.21 # because you are a java fanboy 01.57.22 # or girl 01.57.23 # i don't know 01.57.31 # ahah :) 01.57.36 # well i'm no girl 01.58.00 # well i did C when I was young 01.58.17 # but i hated these #define things 01.58.27 # (this).setX = cos((this).getDir * speed);(this).setY = -sin((this).getDir * speed); 01.58.30 # ack 01.59.01 # why the (this) ? 01.59.15 # reference the current class? 01.59.20 # i forgot a bunch of crap there 01.59.22 # i'm getting tired ;\ 01.59.30 # bc: yeah 01.59.48 # my IDE isn't even bloody open 01.59.53 # and i typed it into the wrong machine 01.59.56 # into the wrong OS 01.59.58 # well it's not need, unless you also defined locals with the same name, and also, why the parenthesis ? 02.00.03 # #define is the greatest - get your compiler to write half your code for you 02.00.09 # yes :) 02.00.09 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a219.wi.tds.net) 02.00.13 # if you hate #define - you will loathe asm 02.00.31 # bod: eh, dunno. 02.00.36 # again, i'm not a java expert 02.00.43 # :) 02.00.52 # well this.foo == foo 02.01.35 # surely this.foo = bar, no? 02.01.41 # :)) 02.01.47 # sorry no 02.01.47 # heh 02.02.01 # is this foo that other foo 02.02.20 # and if so, then you can go to the bar 02.02.47 # :)) 02.02.52 # lol 02.03.03 # there's a bar here called "the fubar" 02.03.18 # too bad it's not "the foobar" 02.03.23 # geek themed? 02.03.28 # nop 02.03.34 # just a regular irish pub 02.03.39 # hrm 02.04.17 # is that a US irish pub, or something that resembles an irish pub? 02.04.29 # ya... keep forgetting, usage of fubar, and it's derivatives, predate common techy usage 02.04.49 # fastest game in the world: Pass-the-parcel in an irish pub 02.04.52 # it's a french irish pub :) 02.05.06 # i've never been in an authentic irish pub 02.06.02 # well, if you do, make sure you order a guiness 02.06.16 # don't worry, it actually tastes nice in ireland 02.06.29 # ahhaha :) 02.06.32 Join unionpeak [0] (polirc@d53-201-155.nap.wideopenwest.com) 02.06.36 # are you irish ? 02.06.45 # me? no 02.07.05 # hey im wondering is there anyway to browse the files on the v2 recorder while ur listenin to a song 02.07.08 # ok 02.07.21 # yes, press ON 02.07.41 # haha ok i just got the thing thanks 02.08.10 # there's a manual, its way out of date now, but it should still cover the basics 02.08.17 # yeah 02.08.21 # thanks...later 02.08.23 Quit unionpeak (Client Quit) 02.09.17 # amn 02.09.31 # i will miss pressing ON to browse files 02.11.03 # but you wont miss your ugly, badly made unit with attitude problems :) 02.11.26 # well :) i'll miss that too 02.11.30 # lol 02.11.37 # plus it was becoming "obsoleet" 02.11.38 # then buy another! 02.12.10 # well 02.12.11 # that's fair, wouldn't want something out-of-date, the advertisers would be most upset 02.12.21 # that woulnd't be serious 02.12.44 # well 02.12.50 # i mean 02.12.54 # ok i miss it 02.13.05 # but not enough to buy another one ;) 02.14.04 # ok 02.14.08 # apparently 02.14.20 # i need to make a new JPanel for every object I want to stick on the screen 02.14.21 # right? 02.14.32 # nop 02.14.44 # you can have only one JPanel 02.15.05 # ok... 02.15.10 # but don't forget to make it have the null layout 02.15.15 # setLayout(null); 02.15.20 # i have no idea how to use jpanels 02.15.36 # * kaboofa looks to his o'reilly book 02.44.16 # sava? 02.47.04 # eh? 02.47.41 # it means 02.47.48 # everything's allright? 02.48.28 # oh 02.48.29 # sorta 02.48.30 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.48.32 # i'm not understanding it 02.48.46 # how do you draw graphics? 02.48.55 # i can't find a BitBlt function 02.49.03 # like, can youdo 02.49.28 # Image penguin = new Image("/tux.jpg"); repaint(); 02.49.31 # and it should show tux 02.55.49 # well yeah 02.56.17 # ok 02.56.27 # how do you set WHERE you want it to repaint though? 02.57.17 # repaint(int, int, int, int) ? 02.58.11 # oh 02.58.17 # i'm just confused about the whole thing 03.04.53 # don't give up :) 03.14.12 Quit sunpower ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515") 03.14.21 Join jakesir [0] (solaris@pool-141-157-101-228.balt.east.verizon.net) 03.14.28 # ugh 03.14.33 # headache from code :\ 03.18.55 Quit BlueChip ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 03.45.57 Join BlueChip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 03.47.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.52.17 # hmmm 03.52.36 # BoD[]: can you add an action listener to a JFrame? 03.56.21 # no. 03.56.22 # :( 04.38.32 Join midk [0] (Zakk@c-67-160-88-198.client.comcast.net) 04.51.34 Join edouble [0] (~edubble@c-24-7-67-44.client.comcast.net) 04.53.52 # hey can anyone tell me what this Archos Recorder 20 is talking about when says: HD register error 04.53.52 # SC1 (85) 128 04.53.52 # SN1 (170) 128 04.53.52 DBUG Enqueued KICK edouble 04.53.52 # SC2 (170) 128 04.53.52 # SN2 (85) 128 04.54.40 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@p50861C22.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.56.01 # edouble: you're best shot is to repeat your question for the man who just logged on 04.56.22 # Thanks BC! 04.56.32 # hey can anyone tell me what this Archos Recorder 20 is talking about when says: HD register error 04.56.54 # SC1 (85) 128 04.56.54 # SN1 (170) 128 04.56.54 # SC2 (170) 128 04.56.54 *** Alert Mode level 1 04.56.54 # SN2 (85) 128 04.56.54 *** Alert Mode level 2 04.56.54 # progress bar hangs with 3 bars 04.56.54 *** Alert Mode level 3 04.56.54 # OS Version 1.28 04.57.09 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 04.57.09 # * [IDC]Dragon wonders if he's the one who just logged on 04.57.22 # tried popping it into a thinkpad and ran scandisk. Only found one bad sector in the middle of the disk. 04.57.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> lokks like not flashed? 04.57.42 # Dragon, it appears so! If you kindly have any info. that would be great. 04.57.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> looks 04.58.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't have much of an idea 04.58.26 # Not flashed? strange, it was workin! 04.58.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> ir is? OK 04.58.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> it 04.58.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm not awake to type straight 04.59.05 # thought you were up late ;) 04.59.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> early 04.59.15 # ouch! 04.59.21 # Haha,! The jukebox 20 recorder is not working no more. Hangs on 3 bars with the Register Error. 04.59.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> 5 am here 04.59.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> is it's flashed, whay do you have bars? 04.59.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> why 05.00.10 # Flashed with rockbox that is? yep. 05.00.17 # 1.28 05.00.36 # or actually whatever the latest version is in case thats not it 05.00.48 # edouble: there was never a rockbox v1.28 for flashing 05.00.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> flashed or just loaded? 05.00.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> 1.28 is Archos 05.01.04 # actually, just loaded. 05.01.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> ah 05.01.13 # it WAS runnign the latest rockbox just find 05.01.15 # *fine 05.01.24 # just before this problem happened. 05.01.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> what happened ? 05.02.07 # Rockbox was doin fine. Just stopped workin. 05.02.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> hmm 05.02.52 # you got the error codes I posted here? 05.02.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes 05.03.05 # k 05.03.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> but this is no error issued by Rockbox 05.03.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> this is still the Archos software 05.03.40 # ah hrm... 05.03.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't know what these codes mean 05.03.54 # does archos make those public? 05.03.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> not our code 05.04.03 # gotcha 05.04.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> I doubt it 05.04.30 # wonder wtf is up. Works in a laptop. Perhaps some internal circuitry got broke? 05.04.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> they never published anything technical 05.05.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> maybe you should try to reformat it 05.05.46 # ok what's the purpose of flashing? vs. loading the rockbox. 05.06.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's just a lot faster 05.06.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> you instantaneously have Rockbox, no Archos loader 05.06.55 *** Alert Mode OFF 05.06.55 # oh, didn't realize that. How cool! 05.06.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> ~4 sec from off to resume music playback 05.07.48 # so will archos corp be totally usefull/less in helping me here? 05.08.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> you can try 05.08.32 # <[IDC]Dragon> haven't heared too much praise 05.08.38 # k 05.08.47 # they refurbed this unit for me once 05.08.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> can you try another disk? 05.09.20 # i can... RTFM for the details on initalizing a new disk? 05.09.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> just format it with FAT32 05.10.02 # k 05.11.31 # will it come up with thye Archos software then? 05.11.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes 05.17.35 # will popping in a win2000 bootable drive damage alter the os on the drive? 05.18.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> no 05.18.18 # so it should be safe then 05.18.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> to swap in your notebook disk? 05.18.41 # yep 05.18.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> should do, if it's FAT32 05.19.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> one partition 05.19.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> (dunno if that's a requirement) 05.20.28 # min size? 05.21.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> none 05.21.08 # [IDC]Dragon: late there? 05.21.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> early here 05.21.19 # what are you up so late working on? 05.21.21 # :) 05.21.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> waking up sleepless, there's so much going on now 05.21.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> I need to distract my thoughts 05.22.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> so I came here to meet some boring people ;-) 05.22.44 # I have a very interesting collection of milk bottle tops ;) 05.22.47 # hey we're not boring people we've just got boring problems! 05.23.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> BlueChip: tell me 05.23.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> we're buying a piece of land to build a house 05.24.11 # oh wow! /me seeps envy 05.24.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> so you may not see me around very often inthe future 05.24.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> I have to cut this down very seriously 05.25.37 # You have done more than your fair share for this project - we'll be sad to miss you for a while 05.26.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'd like to clean a few things up 05.26.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> but I was pretty much through with my "list" 05.26.45 # Such a shame we never got the last bit of information to do WAV playback 05.27.06 # we got soooo close :( 05.27.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> ask Rocker 05.27.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> he should be able to give you the piece of download code 05.27.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's used in the AV3x0 05.28.01 # * BlueChip jaw hits the floor 05.28.32 # is the MAS chip wired the same as ours - the code I got required a hardware mod 05.28.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't know if wav over serial is possible 05.29.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> our parallel is input only 05.29.21 # HEY BC popping in a new drive (not freshly reformatted) still hangs on 3 bars... 05.29.35 # er...that was a misdirected comment me thinks.... 05.29.42 # certainly not a full 44.1/16 - but even a low bitrate would open a LOT of doors 05.29.56 # edouble: sounds like a dodgy connection to me 05.30.42 # oh! me poor jukebox!~ 05.32.48 # So Dragon, if you like to say, where are you building your house? 05.33.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> right where I live (not in Hawai) 05.34.52 # It's always been a dream of mine - bit of land in the country side - although I think putting it in the middle of a Maze might be a little deluded - lol 05.35.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's very little land, in the city 05.35.36 # Recording Studio in the basement? 05.35.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> just enough for a house 05.36.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> Jukebox Studio in the basement 05.36.09 # LOL 05.36.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> recorder, actually 05.37.45 # It's going to be the future here in the UK, my "2-up, 2-down" is now worth about £140,000 - house prices are getting stupid 05.38.17 # you need about £0.3M for a reasonable house 05.38.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> how does euro convert to pound? 05.38.57 # about 1.6 E == £1 iirc 05.39.50 # ...so going on for about E0.5M 05.40.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> cheaper here 05.40.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> we expect maybe 0.35 05.40.49 # I presume you can build pretty much what you want though? 05.41.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> within 8.5m width and 1.5 stories high 05.42.11 # 1.5 stories?? how do you build 0.5 of a story? 05.42.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> that's how we call it if the roof starts at the upper floor 05.43.01 # right 05.43.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> so the outer walls have an angle from maybe 1m height on 05.43.42 # riiight, yes, that makes sense - so windows in the roof (skylights)? 05.43.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes 05.44.26 # How long will it take to build? 05.44.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> dunno 05.44.41 # <1 yr? 05.44.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> we just said OK to the land owner# 05.45.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, less 05.45.49 # What % is land cost? (hope you don't mind me asking all these Q's, it's just that you are living my dream) 05.46.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> about 1/3 05.46.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> I thought your dream is the countryside? 05.47.41 # I would also prefer a bungalo (one storey) ...but you've still got my imagination going 05.47.51 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 05.48.57 # (kettle) brb 05.52.33 Quit elinenbe (Connection timed out) 05.53.35 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 05.55.29 Quit midk ("yo yo yo cya later YO YO YO wasa wasa!") 06.01.49 Join roguefire [0] (~roguefire@cpe-66-91-5-116.hawaii.rr.com) 06.01.58 # hello? 06.02.06 # hello! 06.02.20 # i have a problem with my fm jbr 06.02.43 # lol - most first time callers do ;) 06.02.51 # it's making a skipping sound, do you have any idea why? 06.03.06 # are you running the latest "daily build"? 06.03.13 # i think so 06.03.53 # where (& when) did you download it from? 06.04.19 # rockbox site a couple of days ago 06.04.48 # it makes a skipping sound when it's connected to my computer 06.05.00 # what is the yyyymmdd version code on the boot/version screen? 06.05.22 # just a second 06.05.48 # 040517 06.05.58 # -0301 06.06.33 # hmmm - yesterday's build - you say "while connected to the computer" ...connected in what way? 06.06.46 # through the usb 06.06.58 # so you are playing the mp3's on the c with (eg) winamp? 06.07.04 # c -> pc 06.07.17 # no i'm transferring files 06.07.50 # hmm - it is impossible to play files while connected to the pc!? 06.08.08 # ? 06.08.34 # when the usb port is enabled all the jbr does is show a usb screen - the firmware is locked out 06.09.07 # perhaps i did not undertand the word "skipping" 06.09.27 # the sound is coming from inside the machine- 06.09.39 # its like the HD is skipping 06.09.57 # Ahhh, yes the HDD will make noises - that's normal 06.10.05 # no, but its differnt 06.10.21 # like a continuous skipping sound 06.10.39 # does everything else work perfectly? 06.11.12 # no, sometimes when i push a button the thing thinks i pushed a differnt button 06.11.28 # like up= f2 06.12.01 # this problem has been reported by several people - i don't kow what the core devs are doing about it - that should be reported to the mailing list 06.12.09 # o ok 06.12.31 # this thing is driving me nuts, i think im gonna smash it 06.13.03 # would dropping it be a cause for a skipping sound? 06.13.10 # yes 06.13.14 # o 06.13.25 # oops.. 06.13.35 # dropping hdd's is not healthy for them - especially if it was accessing at the time 06.13.46 # CRAP!!! 06.13.51 # can it be fixed 06.14.03 # yeah fer sure, pop the back off and put a new hdd in :) 06.14.15 # CRAAAP! 06.14.23 # do you think i can return it? 06.14.38 # gotta be worth a shot 06.14.45 # did you flash it with Rockbox? 06.15.11 # flash it? is that the dangerous thing that could result in a dead box? 06.15.22 # not much of a risk, but yes 06.15.39 # whats that all about, i read about it but didn't understand 06.15.58 # put the new firmware in a chip instead of on the hdd - just makes it boot quicker 06.16.32 # ok... would that void my warranty? 06.17.01 # it's all a bit debatable, but probably, yes 06.17.15 # ok, so i'm not gonna do it,yet 06.17.32 # do you use the movie plugin? 06.17.40 # not personally 06.17.53 # have you ever converted a move to .rvf 06.18.07 # no - but there are some windoze gui's for it now 06.18.34 # gui? is that the tool thing for making movies? 06.19.24 # graphical user interface 06.19.44 # yeah thats probably it 06.19.47 # no, it is a point and clik interface for the command line tools 06.20.27 # ok, i dont kno what that means, but it doesnt matter. 06.20.35 # btw... 06.20.51 # do you know of a good avi converter 06.21.15 # you mean avi->rvf? 06.21.42 # no like mpg/wma/mpeg etc. to avi 06.22.53 # http://www.google.com/search?q=convert+mpeg+to+avi&sourceid=opera&num=50&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 06.23.16 # best I can do :( 06.23.31 # for ???->mpg, i suggest TMPEGENC 06.23.50 # ok thanks anyway 06.24.05 # i got another q 06.24.25 # i cant remember it, 06.24.36 # o i remember 06.25.09 # do you think it would be possible to make an instrument tuner plugin, utilizing the mic? 06.26.04 # what an amazingly cool idea ...errrrrrrr 06.26.35 # I'm going with no, but I would be mighty happy to be proved wrong 06.27.02 # do you know who would be the one to do it? 06.27.56 # I wouldn't want to name names, but you'd spark the most interest by hitting the mailing list with it 06.28.21 # do you do that kind of stuff, the plugin making stuff? 06.28.32 # sure do 06.28.41 # what have you done? 06.28.53 # http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/ 06.29.08 # literally writing the html as we speak 06.29.29 # holy crap, you did the othelo game? 06.29.36 # :) 06.29.55 # New version online a couple of days ago 06.30.06 # cool man, i love that game 06.30.11 # thank you :) 06.30.27 # so there are other games for rockb. 06.30.29 # ? 06.30.39 # other than? 06.30.45 # othello 06.30.48 # on ur site 06.30.50 # loads 06.31.06 # how come there not in the rockbox plugins? 06.31.07 # snake, tetris, klondike, star, sokoban 06.31.27 # starfield? 06.31.32 # coding demo 06.31.46 # starfield is a coding demo? 06.31.55 # sure is :) 06.32.01 # whats that? 06.32.35 # me showing off 06.32.42 # o cool 06.32.46 # think "flashy screen saver" 06.32.53 # ooo i c 06.33.08 # are there anymore cool games in the works? 06.33.47 # Some that are only happening in my head atm, a guy called midknight is working on breakout 06.34.28 # breakout? hows that go? 06.34.52 # bat, ball, little blocks 06.35.09 # ok sounds cool. any idea when itl be done? 06.36.13 # depends on how much time midknight dedicates to it - maybe a few weeks? 06.36.30 # cool ill be looking forward to it 06.36.59 # do you know of any keybord app. or search app. for rockbox? 06.37.03 # if he pulls his finger out, it might be the first full greyscale game 06.37.22 # You mean like the rename file keyboard? 06.37.47 # a virtual keyboard 06.38.01 # A search plugin has been requested a lot, but no programmer is really interested in the project 06.38.22 # hmm that sucks 06.38.30 # try to rename a file, you will see a keyboard :) 06.38.37 # do you program? 06.38.48 # no i dont kno how 06.38.52 # shame 06.39.00 # wherd you learn 06.40.00 # in my bedroom as a kid with a sinclair zx81 06.40.24 # whats that? 06.40.37 # "the first home computer under £100" 06.40.46 # o ok 06.40.59 # think is was a tsr80 in the US 06.41.11 # would a pacman game be hard to make? 06.41.18 # no, quite simple 06.41.47 # could you make it? 06.41.51 # yep 06.41.59 # would you make it? 06.42.05 # maybe one day 06.42.19 # sinclair nice vintage: http://oldcomputers.net/zx80.html 06.42.44 # missed the zx80, by the time I saved up my pennies the zx81 was out 06.42.54 # 256bytes of RAM 06.43.12 # well thanks for the help BC i'll see ya later 06.43.19 # l8rz roguefire 06.43.25 Part roguefire 06.44.16 # bc or anyone got any good general discussion techie programmer IRC channels 06.44.45 # no, this is about the only irc channel i frequent - got a specific problem? 06.46.08 # not a problem. 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10.24.53 Quit dwihnoi (Client Quit) 10.25.10 # uhh. made him firghten ? 10.25.16 # err, frighten ? 10.27.11 # lol 10.27.24 # I have that effect on people 10.27.43 # heh 10.31.47 Join cjnr11 [0] (dfd@bobillot-5-82-224-193-23.fbx.proxad.net) 10.31.48 Join cjnr112 [0] (~dfd@bobillot-5-82-224-193-23.fbx.proxad.net) 10.31.49 Quit cjnr11 (Remote closed the connection) 10.31.54 Part cjnr112 10.32.08 Join cjnr11 [0] (dfd@bobillot-5-82-224-193-23.fbx.proxad.net) 10.32.15 Part cjnr11 10.39.55 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.40.18 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 10.44.46 Part dwihno 10.46.14 # BlueChip: BTW: The plugins are missing on cyborgssystems again. just wanted to have some klondike, but only Audio_3587 is there 10.47.00 # I'm updating the site as we speak - Try navigating from the home page 10.47.06 # Thanks for mentioning it though 10.47.32 # whoa. a home page 10.48.47 # uhh, no klondike-code ? 10.48.54 # Not yet 10.49.42 # you wrote embarassing code ;-) ? 10.50.36 # lol - i want to tweak the card engine so that the arrays are numbered from 1 10.51.33 # all that -1 crap makes the code trickier to read 10.52.46 # I suppose bc_*.h is inline style so you can reuse your code ? 10.53.37 # yes, there has also been talk of supporting "Framework" code in Rockbox, which will make life simpler 10.54.25 # yeah, I read that. Apart from the fact that code _should_ not be in headers, it's fine solution for me 10.55.11 # the current plugin system makes it IMPOSSIBLE to move the code to seperate .c files :( 10.56.35 # in fact, when Othelo was ported to the plugin system (not by me) all the _valid_ .h files were included in Othelo.c!? 11.17.59 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 11.17.59 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.18.21 Quit dwihno (Client Quit) 11.19.07 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 11.22.53 # limbus: I've put a redirector on the old page now - thanks again for mentioning it :) 11.23.41 # LinusN, listening? 11.32.05 # BlueChip: everytime. gotta go to work now. 11.32.25 # have a good one :) byeeeeee 11.32.42 Join Fedor [0] (~fedor@gw2.hosting.facingfacts.nl) 11.32.48 Quit lImbus_ (" I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 11.32.50 # Hi ppl! 11.32.57 # LinusN: respect! 11.35.31 # Hi Fedor - gotta ask, what cool thing has Linus done now? 11.35.53 # Question for people who are into hardware. What type of LCD in multimedia machines??? 11.36.11 # BlueChip: doesnt matter, he just first on the channel who i had contact with ;))))) 11.36.22 # :) good choice :) 11.36.56 # i need a blooody connectors for that lcd.... ;( 11.37.44 # lcd? I;m confused - for MM I favour CRT 11.38.03 # BlueChip: what? 11.38.31 # BlueChip: i mean JBMM20 machines of course. 11.38.31 # touché - lol 11.38.38 # oh! 11.38.39 # BlueChip: dont start 11.39.07 # Sadly not supported by Rockbox :( 11.39.15 # lol 11.39.46 # BlueChip: i know. but doesnt matter.... i have to move a screen about 6-7 santimeters away from mobo... just looking for smart ideas how to do it less painfull ;) 11.40.20 # in worst case, and i actually very close to - will unsolder damn connectors from mobo ;) 11.41.33 # gotta smoke 11.47.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.14.11 Quit limbus () 12.15.56 Join limbus [0] (~manuel@kernel.cycos.net) 12.48.50 # LinusN, are you around?? 12.54.28 # yup 12.56.41 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.09.16 # LinusN: First, I would like to know if there is any progress on support for multiple source files for plugins. 13.10.22 # this is one of the issues that will be discussed on the upcoming rockbox devcon this friday 13.10.35 # It would also be desirable to make libray-like frameworks (xxx.a), where the linker could pick only those functions from that are really used. 13.10.52 # DevCon! DevCon1 13.10.54 # :d 13.11.49 # Second, I would like to know what plans are there for rewriting the gfx core for clipping support. 13.12.02 # Perhaps I could help there. 13.12.59 # Imho, there should be some more functions, and e.g. lcd_bitmap() could benefit from a parameter. 13.14.24 # Furthermore I am wondering if the concept could/should be changed slightly. 13.14.28 # These ideas came to mind while implementing the grayscale graphics core: 13.15.12 # font aliasing! 13.15.12 # naah 13.15.16 # too space consuming 13.15.54 # - Currently, there is one function for ever draw mode (drawline/clearline; fillrect/invertrect etc) 13.16.25 # This could be replaced by one function per graphics primitive, and one function to set the draw mode. 13.16.42 # (Pretty much like there is a function to set the current font) 13.19.08 # and the benefit would be? 13.21.00 # This would give less code size because code duplication would be avoided. 13.21.18 # ok 13.21.20 # does anyone have schematics JBMM20? 13.21.45 # i don't 13.22.23 # amiconn: why the stride parameter? 13.22.27 # This could also be done with adding a draw mode parameter to every function, but having too many parameters isn't good imho. 13.23.30 # The stride parameter (already existing internally since my modification) would help for drawing partial left-clipped bitmaps (e.g. needed for left-scrolled text) 13.26.42 # go ahead and implement it 13.28.20 # I could do so, but won't without "ok" from the core team, since this will be an incompatible api change. 13.29.29 # you would of course have to fix all calls to lcd_bitmap(), or make a new function, lcd_bitmap_ex() 13.29.39 # or something 13.31.30 # The necessity to fix all lcd_bitmap() calls is obvious if I change lcd_bitmap() directly, but this would also imply an incompatible change to the plugin api. 13.31.46 # Of course, lcd_bitmap_ex() would be an option... 13.37.41 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 13.43.57 # i don't care much about keeping the plugin api compatible 13.44.55 # yes, it's a minor nuisance when you get "incompatible version", but a recompile solves the problem 13.45.34 # In this case, a simple recompile won't do it, the source has to be modified (additional parameter for lcd_bitmap()) 13.45.59 # yes, so you will have to change a few more files 13.46.15 # I would do this for all plugins within cvs, but it would be an issue for plugins in the patch tracker 13.46.47 # then the submitters would have to take care of that 13.47.02 # how many plugins do we have in the tracker? 13.47.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.48.18 # Furthermore, I would like to know your approach to clipping support first. 13.48.34 # we plan to add clipping 13.48.36 # If this would enable negative x and y coordinates, the stride parameter wouldn't be necessary externally, but could be computed within lcd_bitmap() 13.50.07 # after consideration, I opted for -x,-y in mine 13.51.18 # makes the controlling code easier to write - eg, getting the space ship to move off the left of the screen 13.51.43 # good point 13.53.45 # This would also simplify the text left clipping in lcd_putxyofs: If a letter is at least partially visible, it would simply call lcd_bitmap(); clipping is handled there. 13.54.44 # absolutely :) 13.55.22 # sounds like we should support negative coordinates then... :-) 13.56.00 # It makes life a lot simpler for both core & plugin coders - imho 13.56.04 # :) 13.59.45 # meeting time 14.03.23 # ami - if it's gonna make it into core feel free to take ideas/code/whatever from my libs 14.07.06 # (not that i think you need it) 14.31.48 # BlueChip: On you http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm page, way down, is a mistake: "Flash%quot; 14.36.14 # thanks dude, I am literally working on that section as we speak :) 14.36.43 # (well, slight lie, I've just taken a quick break to reply to an email) 15.03.22 Join midk [0] (mk@172.150.151.185) 15.03.46 # hi all 15.05.37 # hi 15.06.18 # * Tempis stumbles into work 15.07.56 # hi midk 15.08.12 # hi LinusN, limbus 15.09.02 Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@L0676P04.dipool.highway.telekom.at) 15.09.09 # hi anybody in? 15.09.28 # i'm trying to reflash my rockbox, but i need some assistance 15.10.08 # i'm here 15.10.53 # cool, well - should i use firmware_flash or rockbox_flash? 15.11.47 # and as far as i remember i need a new binary as well, isnt it? like firmware_rec.bin .... 15.13.15 Join Guest11 [0] (~jirc@L0676P04.dipool.highway.telekom.at) 15.13.16 Quit Guest1 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.13.28 # firmware_flash 15.13.31 # sorry ... got disconnected.. do you have an idea? 15.13.36 # yes, check out the flash page 15.14.16 Join Christi-S [0] (~christi@81.103.219.83) 15.14.17 # iirc, http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html 15.14.26 # hi midk 15.14.34 # hi amiconn 15.14.55 # gracias! 15.15.13 # Guest11: got it then? 15.15.21 # midk: I consider changing the grayscale api a bit and are wondering if my new approach might be a good idea 15.15.35 # amiconn: i'm listening :) 15.16.35 # well, I'm wondering if i get the newest version ... the website looks like the one i used some months ago... 15.16.57 # to flash, guest, use the one in the package 15.16.58 # I think instead of having all those parameters in every function, it may be desirable to have some functions to set foreground pen, background pen, and draw mode. 15.17.01 # you can update it afterwards 15.17.33 # Subsequent drawing instructions would then use the values set by these functions, until you set them again. 15.17.42 # such as for gray_drawbitmap? 15.17.54 # are the binaries changed? or is it still the version that arose when flashing was possible the first time? 15.18.03 # midk: yup. 15.18.18 # guest: it doesn't matter, just use the one in the pack + update later 15.18.31 # This would save fg_brightness, bg_brightness and draw_bg parameters. 15.18.45 # what else is it used by? 15.18.54 # i thought only for gray_drawbitmap 15.19.08 # The draw_bg would be replaced by a more generic "draw mode", of which there would be 4: 15.19.51 # GRAY_INVERT, GRAY_FOREGROUND, GRAY_BACKGROUND and GRAY_OPAQUE 15.20.08 # oh i like that! 15.20.36 # okay, so I'll flash it right now with the package and take the ajbrec.ajz of the daily build... i hope i understood correctly.. THANKS! 15.20.48 # no... 15.20.54 # use the ajbrec.ajz from the flash pack 15.20.58 # This would definitely be good for gray_drawbitmap, but maybe also for gray_xxxrect, gray_xxxline etc, which would then be replaced by a single function for each primitive. 15.20.59 # and the plugins 15.21.07 # and the firmware_rec(_norom).bin 15.22.15 # amiconn: if all the rect and line functions were using foreground and background, i think that would be a bit too complicated 15.22.16 Quit Guest11 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.23.13 # Of course, the line functions would only use foreground, which would mean that draw modes (1) and (3) would be identical, and mode (2) would do nothing. 15.23.58 # yes, but that also means changing it every time you need a differently colored line 15.24.55 # Yes. I want to get an idea if this approach would be faster or slower. 15.25.37 # i could propose an alternative: 15.25.46 # If you have to change the values between each two graphics calls, it would be slower, but if you have to draw several primitives with the same settings, it would be faster. 15.26.42 # oh hm 15.26.48 # gotta go 15.26.50 Part LinusN 15.26.58 # That was fast... 15.27.04 # yeah lol 15.27.11 # ok i was going to say a parameter for each function 15.27.19 Join Guest11 [0] (~jirc@L0676P04.dipool.highway.telekom.at) 15.27.33 # alright! thanks midk 15.27.34 # ie gray_set_parameters(int fg_bitmap, int bg_bitmap, int line_darkness, int rect_darkness) 15.27.42 # no problem Guest11 15.27.53 # i'll assume at this point it works :) 15.29.11 # amiconn: so that you could keep your bitmaps and lines seperate darknesses 15.29.12 Quit Guest11 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.29.47 # Hmm. I think this would be too much parameters. Too bad that there is no simple way for optional parameters in C 15.29.57 # *too many 15.30.13 # can you not "..." for extra prams in C? 15.30.50 # amiconn: that's what i considered, but i also considered that you wouldn't have to change it every time you need a new darkness 15.30.59 # or wait! preset darknesses! 15.31.00 # (grabs C book) 15.31.17 # gray_set_parameters(int preset_1, int preset_2, int preset_3); 15.31.24 # BlueChip: Iirc you can, but this adds quite a bit of overhead (if I'm not totally wrong) 15.31.31 # how is printf defined? 15.31.35 # ahh right 15.32.16 # But this would be really good: if you don't give the extra parameters, use the pre-set ones defined with e.g. gray_set_foreground() 15.32.37 # right 15.32.41 # If you give them, it would use these and wouldn't change the presets. 15.33.11 # right 15.34.22 # I will have a look how much overhead this adds in the evening. 15.34.41 # midk: Btw, font support already works (not yet committed) 15.34.47 # sure 15.34.56 # amiconn: sounds good, if i can't get my own working well :) 15.36.08 # There will be gray_setfont(), gray_getstringsize() and gray_putsxy(). These can use the 2 fonts currently defined in Rockbox 15.36.43 # ami: setfont() very interesting - will you be able to choose any font available? 15.36.57 # just like lcd_setfont i'd presume 15.37.05 # yup. 15.37.19 # amiconn: considered "gray_puts"? 15.37.32 # I was amazed to discover that you cannot select any font with the current core code 15.38.24 # midk: Why? I guess grayscale won't be used for text-only applications, so putsxy() seems to make more sense 15.39.17 # I've yet to understand the difference between puts and putsxy 15.39.21 # i meant both... i guess it's not needed, but it's just an idea 15.39.29 # BlueChip: No. Currently there are 2 fonts available: FONT_SYSFIXED and FONT_UI. 15.39.55 # BlueChip: putsxy uses (x, y, "test") -- puts is puts(char, char, "test" 15.40.14 # ie puts(2, 0, "test") would place "test" over 2 characters and down 0 15.40.31 # which would translate to putsxy(12, 0, "test") 15.40.37 # BlueChip: Very easy: putsxy puts the text at pixel position (x, y), while puts puts it ( :) ) at (column, line) 15.40.42 # Should be possible to implement as a macro anyway. 15.40.50 # D'oh! 15.41.00 # time for midk to go 15.41.03 # good luck on that amiconn 15.41.12 Quit midk () 15.41.29 # Christi-S: Not easily. The y position of a line has to be computed (varies with font height) 15.41.38 # ami: so do you plan for set_font("rocklatin") ? 15.42.13 # Isn't font height stored in a global? (I don't know the source code at all, I'm afraid, so I'm rather guessing.) 15.42.34 # No, see above. gray_setfont(int font). Font can be FONT_SYSFIXED (==0) or FONT_UI (==1) 15.42.58 # so the same restrictive font support :( 15.43.20 # I suspect the problem with font support is that it all takes up memory. 15.43.45 # So if I want anything else I will have to recode the font and write my own routines 15.44.36 # Is there any particular reason you want to use more than one font at a time? 15.44.58 # The font_load() function might be exposed to the plugin api, but if you use it, this would replace the ui font set by the user 15.45.31 # Ah yes, that might be a work around, font_load(), set_font(UI) 15.46.18 # i feel a #define coming on :) 15.46.23 # The problem is how to reset the user-defined font on exit 15.47.23 # hmm - would need a get_font() call to ask what is currently loaded 15.47.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.49.15 # The path and file name of the currently loaded font isn't stored in the font struct 15.49.56 # so effectively plugins remain without font support :( 15.52.48 # BlueChip: We'd have to convince the core team that support for an additional (third) "font slot" is needed. 15.53.04 # This is already prepared in the core, only commented out 15.53.08 # or just some way to know what to reload when we've finished 15.53.46 # (which imho, should be done by plugin_load() ) 15.54.09 # As reloading might fail, it would require additional error handling, which adds complexity... 15.54.25 # why should a reload fail? 15.54.38 # should/could 15.55.52 # Perhaps the font file was renamed/moved/deleted by the user after booting rockbox 15.56.42 # hm, okay, in which case you're in trouble at next boot also 15.57.01 Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@L0676P04.dipool.highway.telekom.at) 15.57.40 # BlueChip: correct, but then it's not the problem of the plugin... 15.57.59 # but still the problem for font_load() 15.58.20 # so surely the error code is already in place? 15.58.30 # error code -> error handling 15.58.38 # hi again... sorry - I've flashed version 2.2 and put a CVS build of today into the root directory... do i have to tell the version 2 to automatically load the ajbrec.ajz? 15.59.04 # why not flash the version you want to use? 15.59.17 # Guest1: Flashed rockbox doesn't look for ajbrec.ajz on startup 15.59.46 # hm, that's what i originally was looking for, but where do i get the *bin file for the current build? 16.00.06 # when i visit the flash site, i get the binaries of 2.2 16.00.09 # So to get the current version flashed, put it on the disk, boot rockbox (this brings up v2.2), then RoLo into the current version. 16.00.28 # *.ucl - errr, suspect on the downloads page somewhere 16.00.41 # After that you can "play" the file "rockbox.ucl" which would fire up rockbox_flash.rock and flash it. 16.01.03 # guest: listen to ami :) 16.01.14 # aha ... i'll try that - thanks so far! 16.02.27 # amiconn: helloooooo there! 16.02.27 Quit Guest1 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.02.32 # BlueChip: hi! 16.02.43 # hi elinenbe 16.02.46 # hey there elinenbe :) 16.02.47 # amiconn: nice changes with the jpeg viewer... 16.03.08 # amiconn: I heard a rumor you are working on a bolderdash clone? 16.03.19 # coooooooooooooool 16.04.19 Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@L0676P04.dipool.highway.telekom.at) 16.04.23 # elinenbe: Not yet working on it, but I like that idea much more than minesweeper... 16.04.44 # verify okay... ! thanks amiconn and bluechip :D 16.08.14 # amiconn: you can find an example game here with source: http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/0/14.html 16.08.16 Quit Guest1 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.17.32 # elinenbe: Thanks for the link. Unfortunately this is in assembler. 16.18.11 # Where is the assembler for the Archos documented? 16.27.26 # Christi-S: See http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/sh1_2p.pdf 16.27.56 # Thanks. 16.28.30 # Is anybody intrested in a VS.NET Project-File for the rockbox-Stuff ? It doesn't compile either, but all symbols are known and can be browsed ;-) 16.31.55 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 16.44.14 # any reason why it cannot be compiled? 16.44.28 # I know nothing of .net, but i have contacts 16.44.46 # hey BlueChip, whats the price of petrol over there? 16.45.55 # about 77p/litre last I noticed, but I haven't driven in a couple of months and we have had a "budget" since - so probbaly more like 80p now 16.46.40 # hmm 16.47.07 # I have no idea how to covert that to dollars/gallon 16.47.38 # hehe, not gallon/dollar ? 16.47.58 # a *US* gallon is http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=liters+in+a+gallon&btnG=Search 16.48.07 # 3.8 liters 16.48.28 # or 4.5 liters in a UK gallon 16.48.36 # sorry 16.48.41 # or 4.5 litres in a UK gallon 16.49.21 # 80p * 3.8 = £3.04 16.49.26 # BlueChip: I didn't try yet. It's not complicated at all, I bed. At least I could fire up "make" in cygwin for custom build step, but then you can't compile file per file which would be sweet. 16.49.51 # 3.04 * 1.9 = $5.77 16.49.58 # so about $6/gallon 16.50.06 # (US gallon that is) 16.50.09 # right 16.50.38 # its only about $2/gallon right now 16.50.39 # limbus: let me know if you jit a wall, and I can ask around :) 16.51.03 # yes, but you've just occupied another oil country!! 16.51.14 # lol 16.52.26 # Pretty much everything is more expensive in the UK. Product of living on a small island, I suppose. 16.52.38 # 17.5% sales tax 16.52.46 # 25-45% income tax 16.52.54 # 5-12% insurance tax 16.52.54 # insane 16.53.08 Join Christi-S_ [0] (~christi@client-1784-p-2-lns.glfd.dial.virgin.net) 16.53.10 # about $200/month house tax 16.53.23 # I guess they've never heard that no country has ever taxed itself into prosperity 16.53.44 # 85% petrol tax 16.54.06 # Whoa, politics is probably not a good thing to get into. 16.54.35 # all politicos I know are extremely unhappy people 16.54.43 # It doesn't matter who you vote for, the same people will be telling him what to say 16.55.51 # a bottle of beer is about £3.50-6.00 (that's half a pint) 16.56.43 # * Christi-S_ blinks. Where d'you buy your beer? Harrods? 16.57.03 # I remember being in US when McD's did the 102 dalmations promo - "trip to london with $102/day spending money" LMAO 16.57.24 # thats like 2 meals 16.57.29 # WHAT!? 16.57.37 # barely 16.57.56 # and certainly NOT in london! 16.58.50 Part BlueChip 16.58.55 # I'm leaving for England on Thursday 16.59.06 Join BlueChip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 16.59.18 # whoops 16.59.49 Quit Christi-S (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.59.59 Nick Christi-S_ is now known as Christi-S (~christi@client-1784-p-2-lns.glfd.dial.virgin.net) 17.00.04 # Christi-S_: a pint of draught is about £2.00...3.00 nowdays 17.00.47 # but as all the pubs shut at 23:00 that's not too bad 17.01.02 # * Christi-S nods. I remember when I lived in Aberystwyth and booze was about 1.50 a pint. 17.01.14 # Of course then you had to live in Aberystwyth. 17.01.22 # LOL 17.01.27 # beat me to it ;) 17.03.01 # I've been in London for three weeks some month ago. One of the things I recall: London is really expensive. But it doesn't hurt that much if you leave the city and go over to "woodford green" 17.03.04 # ;-) 17.03.58 # yes, fer sure, get out of the city in any direction you can - the city is where you find (a) generally well paid people and (b) gullible tourists 17.05.03 # there are infinitely nicer places to go than London anyway - it's just that the London ministers have more advertising money than other places 17.08.27 # I guess that is the same the world over 17.08.40 Quit Fedor () 17.09.20 # i suppose. although I loved to lay down at hide park 17.09.38 # i happened to get some sunny weeks 17.10.34 # again Hyde Park is nice, but if you like lounging most towns and cities have something almost identical 17.10.59 # we have an original roman castle in the middle of ours 17.11.12 # (well, to one side) 17.14.33 # * Christi-S idly wonders what city Bluechip is in. 17.14.53 # check my ip ;) 17.15.17 # (bloody ntl) 17.15.22 # Ah, right. Yeah - it's a nice castle. I've been there a couple of times. 17.15.54 # I used to say that, and then I moved to a village just outside Oxford where we only have dialup. 17.15.58 # Even NTL is better. 17.16.20 # you in the uk then? 17.16.46 # (possible stupid Q, given your last statement) 17.17.01 # * Christi-S nods. 17.17.31 # Yeah - I've lived in Derby, Durham, Nottingham, Oxford, Cambridge, and Aberystwyth. 17.18.05 # so are all of yall from the UK 17.18.11 # I managed Somerset, London, Harlow, Colchester - going north slowly but surely 17.18.36 # Good move. It's cheaper. I've been slowly migrating south, which is not so good. 17.21.38 # Tempis: Nooo, I'm not from UK. I'm just from the other side of the canal 17.22.26 # brb 17.45.23 # bak 17.45.41 # welcome bak 17.45.53 # :) 17.46.17 # I'm ready for lunch 17.48.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.05.49 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 18.25.45 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.02.35 Join Tempis2 [0] (Tempis@67.128.63.20) 19.11.16 Quit Christi-S (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.11.49 # BlueChip: Did you have a look at the rockbox hp recently? 19.19.40 Quit Tempis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.27.11 Part limbus 19.41.20 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 19.43.40 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 19.48.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.59.40 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.05.56 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 21.14.15 Join Rjc1286__ [0] (Joosa@ool-44c4728b.dyn.optonline.net) 21.14.41 # can anyone tell me how to delete a folder in cygwin? 21.22.48 Quit Tempis2 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.23.37 Join jakesir [0] (solaris@pool-151-196-54-17.balt.east.verizon.net) 21.25.10 Part Rjc1286__ 21.29.00 Join Guest1 [0] (jirc@dhcp-07.sat.idworld.net) 21.29.11 # Hi -- anyone around? 21.30.03 Quit Guest1 (Client Quit) 21.48.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.51.13 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.59.33 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 22.18.36 # Somebody in here who know really knows about Makefile magic?? 22.28.06 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 23.37.39 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.37.47 # hi LinusN 23.37.54 # hey 23.38.01 # "makefile magic"? 23.38.35 # I tried hard to get Bagder's Makefile modification to work for grayscale. 23.39.08 # Had some success in the meantime, but still doesn't work completely 23.39.10 # and? 23.39.30 # There were two mistakes in it: 23.40.23 # (1) The order of the libraries to link with obviously does matter, because the linker complained about undefined symbols (from libgcc) 23.41.05 # When I changed line 36 to ... -lplugin -lgcc ... , it works 23.41.36 # sounds reasonable 23.41.41 # (2) "make clean" didn't clean the lib objects and libplugin.a 23.42.14 # For target "clean:" the following line was missing: $(MAKE) -C lib clean 23.42.44 # One thing still doesn't work that should: 23.43.37 # If I change something in a library source, libplugin.a gets rebuilt, but the plugin(s) using that library don't get re-linked! 23.44.49 # aha 23.45.39 # Since I don't really understand makefiles, for me it is hard to get all this stuff working 23.45.53 # Another thing that I _would like_ to work is: 23.46.36 # Make every function a separate object so that only functions that are really used get included in the final binary. 23.46.36 # amiconn: commit what you have and i'll fix the rest 23.47.06 # that's all up to you, of course 23.48.05 # I really don't have a clue if this is possible at all, currently googling heavily to get an idea. 23.48.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.48.31 # put the functions in different .c files 23.50.08 # Hmm, this would work, but add to file clutter. 23.50.34 # I wonder if it is possible to do this with one file (something like "compile that file as a library" with gcc) 23.51.18 # i don't think so 23.54.40 # If this won't work, and I want to split into several files, perhaps there should be a subdir under "lib" 23.55.16 # yeah 23.56.35 # ...which in turn will require some change in the "lib" makefile...