--- Log for 27.05.104 Server: anthony.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 11 days and 6 hours ago 00.04.00 # amiconn: what did you do this time? ;-) 00.04.15 # * mattzz gets his box plugged 00.06.04 # Not "this time". This function was already in the first lib version of grayscale (one week ago). 00.06.53 # I've written an optimized pixel routine that writes 8 pixels at once (The 8 pixels that belong to the same byte in each bitplane) 00.07.46 # This is used by e.g. gray_drawgraymap() for all pixel that cover "full bytes" 00.08.17 # So to use it for mandelbrot and make it look smooth at the same time, I would recommend the following: 00.08.47 # (1) "Flip" you for() loops to draw column by column instead of row by row 00.09.51 # (2) Reserve an 1 pixel wide graymap with the screen height ( unsigned char graybuffer[LCD_HEIGHT] ) and render each column into that 00.10.39 # (3) After rendering the complete column call gray_drawgraymap(x, 0, 1, LCD_HEIGHT, 1); to put it on the screen 00.12.21 # If you don't want to draw a whole column at once, use a graymap 8 pixels high and draw every 8 pixels at once 00.14.34 # hm, should be easy to do. Much faster due to less display accesses? Or is gray_drawgraymap much faster anyway? 00.15.17 # The display accesses are constant regardless of how much you draw. 00.17.11 # The cpu intensive part with drawing is dissecting every byte into bits and put these bits into various other bytes. 00.18.25 # The new routine which is used for 8-pixel blocks is faster "per pixel" compared with the single-pixel routine 00.20.42 # I will implement the changes you suggested. Thanks a lot. Only a fast mandelbrot is a good mandelbrot ;-) 00.25.01 # I've heavily improved grayscale meanwhile, this is not yet committed though (needs documentation, testing) 00.25.32 # cool 00.25.54 # There will be an api change: Most drawing functions will no longer have parameters for foreground, background and drawing mode, 00.26.42 # There will be functions that set these for all following drawing functions until changed again. 00.27.04 # There will be more draw modes available, for all functions 00.27.23 # No more separate draw_line, invert_line etc. 00.28.13 Quit edx () 00.28.57 # will the api be backward compatible or should all existing grayscale apps be changed? 00.28.59 # And finally: 1-bit bitmap output (with fg & bg) and hence also fonts output will be sped up by the same amount that was already done to 8-bit bitmaps 00.29.31 # sounds very promising! 00.29.45 # The only function that remains compatible will be gray_drawgraymap(), all other function calls have to be adapted 00.29.46 Quit AciD ("tabarnack jva finir par le pitcher par la fenêtre le criss d'ordi") 00.30.30 # (This does of course only apply to the drawing functions; the init/release/scroll etc will remain compatible) 00.32.59 # There are only 2 "real" grayscale apps atm (not counting my demo) 00.41.52 Join midk [0] (mk@AC8B5051.ipt.aol.com) 00.49.20 Nick midk is now known as midk|alsoTIRED (mk@AC8B5051.ipt.aol.com) 00.55.39 Nick midk|alsoTIRED is now known as midk|brb (mk@AC8B5051.ipt.aol.com) 00.58.53 # amiconn: gray_drawgraymap uses graybuffer automatically? 00.59.31 # ? Which graybuffer do you mean ? 01.00.26 # in (2) you recommended reserving an array graybuffer 01.00.49 # Ooops, I forgot an argument: 01.01.32 # gray_drawgraymap(graybuffer, x, 0, 1, LCD_HEIGHT, 1); 01.01.43 # ok, that's the missing link 01.02.55 # I'm currently working on a very interesting bit scrambling routine - this may speed up that 8-bit block drawing further - up to 50% 01.03.39 # Unfortunately, this only holds true for larger bit depths, for small depths it will be slower (break even is ~8 bitplanes) 01.03.56 # This is a real assembler monster, though 01.04.48 # ;-) 01.05.27 # does it have to be a column? mandelbrot _is_ much faster now - but painting from right to left looks odd 01.06.08 # (at least it should be from right to left) 01.06.14 # Why do you paint from right to left? Are we Chinese? 01.06.32 # * mattzz learned a view word arabic last week 01.07.02 # learnt 01.07.03 # arght 01.07.19 # Just do it from left to right, should work this way 01.07.28 # yeah. 01.07.36 Quit scott666_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.08.15 # that was for the sake of speed. for loops counting down... you remember? 01.08.39 Join RedLeg [0] (~red@66.59.108.254) 01.08.50 # Greetings... 01.08.58 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.09.01 # Ah ok. This was suggested by Jörg i guess? It shouldn't matter much, at least for the outer loop. 01.09.01 # cheers 01.09.12 Quit scott666_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.09.20 # Anybody know anything about getting voice prompts working? 01.09.41 # there was a nice howto written by aman in the mailinglist yesterday 01.09.59 # Ah.... thanks, I go have a look in the archives.... 01.10.04 # first you will need a daily build and the voicefile 01.12.27 # amiconn: why not use a line as a pixel bitmap array? 01.13.32 # Because there is no such this as a grayscale line? Lines are drawn in one shade the. 01.14.13 # (And lines don't use the block drawing function) 01.15.17 # ( although in my local version there are special functions for horizontal and vertical lines. Vertical lines do use the block drawing now, but are still drawn in one shade) 01.17.29 # rendering a line instead of a column would really make a difference? 01.18.13 # (1) How do you want to set different shades for each pixel of the line? 01.18.31 # in the same way I did for the column 01.18.46 # (2) Lines don't use the block drawing, because they can be any angle. 01.19.00 # ah, I think you got me wrong 01.19.35 # Ah ok, you mean using gray_drawgraymap for a horizontal "line"? 01.19.40 # yup 01.19.43 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/1]") 01.20.02 # This would be much slower, because the block drawing won't be used. 01.20.33 # This is because of the screen buffer layout (the same crazy layout that is used within the lcd) 01.21.12 # ok. I was just wondering in case I implemented the "incremental compute and scroll scheme" 01.21.24 # for moving around the mandelbrot set 01.21.52 # Each byte within one bitplane of the screen buffer corresponds to an 1x8 pixel array (1 horizontal, 8 vertical) 01.22.25 # Ok, then it makes perfect sense to me that horizontal bitmap drawing is much slower 01.22.48 # You _can_ do that (even fast-working) if you scroll up/down by 8 pixels 01.23.14 # Left/right scrolling can be done by any pixel amount without much speed impact 01.24.14 # guess 8 is the magic number again 01.24.29 # Btw: Did you notice the difference in vertical scrolling speed with the jpeg viewer if you approach the top/bottom edge and the last scroll step is less than 8 pixels? 01.25.12 # no, I havent played much with the jpeg viewer yet 01.25.38 # but I will watch out for that effect 01.26.41 # should I submit the patch to patchtracker? 01.26.55 # (talking about the even_faster_mandelbrot) 01.27.07 # If it works well - yes please. 01.32.08 # [x] patch submitted 01.33.24 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.34.04 Quit mecraw___ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.34.21 Quit scott666_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.41.21 # mattzz: Did you measure how much faster it is? 01.41.55 # no. but it feels minimum twice as fast 01.42.30 # It seems to be that it isn't _that_ much faster - probably the mandelbrot calculation needs the most cpu power 01.43.46 # Another hint: As there is now font support within grayscale, you could re-introduce the time and iteration display 01.43.48 # the horizontal drawing direction gives a pretty speedy touch also 01.46.08 # Nevertheless it seems to yield ~10..20% speedup, and works well. Shall I commit? 01.46.21 # sure 01.50.03 # committed. 01.51.25 # thanks 01.51.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.53.30 # Update: Voice works for me now. Thanks all! 01.53.55 # ;-) 01.54.07 # time to go to bed... 01.54.13 # ...for me 01.54.23 # mattzz: or out to dinner.... 01.54.42 Quit RedLeg ("Leaving") 01.54.57 # nite jens, thanks for the nice chat 01.55.43 Quit mattzz ("Client exiting") 01.55.48 # nite matthias 01.57.26 Part amiconn 02.04.00 Join Llamai [0] (jirc@0-1pool152-210.nas9.minneapolis1.mn.us.da.qwest.net) 02.04.05 # hmmm 02.04.12 # ? 02.04.29 # how do i make this voice work 02.04.47 Quit Llamai (Client Quit) 03.34.31 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.37.16 Quit top_bloke ("The mind is a terrible thing to taste. Wasted 2 hours 7 minutes and 53 seconds online.") 03.39.47 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 03.52.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.56.08 Quit scott666_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.56.19 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 04.02.46 Join TheDude2 [0] (Dudewin32@jkhouse2.jvlnet.com) 04.05.58 Quit jkerman (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.05.58 NSplit anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 04.30.20 Quit scott666_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.35.55 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 04.36.55 NHeal (timeout) anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.04.02 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Mr. Rogers uses BitchX. Won't you be my neighbor?") 05.16.03 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 05.23.15 Quit midk|brb () 05.30.43 # nite all 05.30.53 Part TheDude2 ("Leaving") 05.34.10 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 05.35.38 Join midk|brb [0] (mk@AC9E095F.ipt.aol.com) 05.35.59 Nick midk|brb is now known as midk (mk@AC9E095F.ipt.aol.com) 05.38.54 Join midk|brb [0] (mk@AC9E095F.ipt.aol.com) 05.40.38 Quit midk|brb (Client Quit) 05.42.41 Part scott666_ 05.51.54 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.51.54 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 05.52.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.54.50 Quit adi|home (Connection timed out) 06.10.26 Join infamouse [0] (~Aaron@780cp35.resnet.neu.edu) 06.13.04 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-10.216-194-23-208.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.29.42 Join ChefGerry [0] (~ChefGerry@CPE0000b48c64d2-CM014400124452.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 06.31.19 Quit infamouse (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.48.24 # hello 06.48.26 # is anyone around? 06.48.41 # my 06.48.42 # me* 06.48.45 # hi midk 06.48.49 # hey what's up? 06.48.58 # i'm good thanks 06.49.10 # a bit tired, going to bed soon 06.49.12 # how are you? 06.49.24 # good also 06.49.25 # are you familiar with the Archos GMINI? 06.49.31 # not too well 06.50.41 # got a problem? 06.50.45 # i may be able to help 06.51.12 # its a combination mp3 player/recorder and photo wallet (has a CF slot built-in). it also supports recording of voice (built-in microphone) or SPDIF/analog input to mp3 or wav 06.51.30 # i know about it 06.51.33 # i'm just not a pro with it 06.51.37 # the hardware is excellent, the software could be improved :) 06.51.49 # lol, i'm sure it could 06.51.53 # would you happen to know what embedded OS it uses? 06.52.04 # embedded os? just archos firmware 06.52.15 # specifically, i'm wondering if custom firmware could be developed using the rockbox framework 06.52.17 # oh really 06.52.26 # actually somebody was working on the gmini 06.52.29 # really 06.52.33 # i need to get in touch with him/her 06.52.41 # i have some ideas on making it a lot better 06.52.54 # and i'm sure these are just software limitations 06.53.17 # they probably are 06.53.21 # it's just a lot of work 06.55.20 # i bet 06.55.38 # are you a rockbox developer? 06.56.40 # sort of 06.56.46 # i created the clock plugin 06.56.53 # i've got a major update on it though 06.56.55 # i don't like it as is 06.57.10 # working on a binary mode right now, to see what i've got so far you can check the patches page 06.57.11 # cool 06.57.18 # oh you probably have a gmini :) 06.58.00 # yes :) 06.58.18 # ah never mind that then lol 06.58.30 # i'm browsing the mail list archives 06.58.36 # and have found some references to the gmini 06.59.35 # the GMINI is one of the few recorders I know of that allow recording to WAV 06.59.58 # actually it's only 1 of 2 that i know of, the other being the creative jukebox 07.00.13 # yeah 07.00.17 # i have an av320 too 07.00.19 # it does WAV 07.01.05 # oh nice 07.01.21 # that's the model with the large display? 07.01.58 # yes 07.02.02 # full color videos :) 07.02.11 # *enjoys matrix reloaded on the bus 07.02.36 # that's an awesome unit 07.02.45 # yeah 07.02.58 # the os isn't that bad 07.03.02 # but avos is in progress 07.03.31 # oooh 07.03.33 # cool 07.05.07 # i wish archos was more supportive of this project.. but i can understand why they'd be hesitant to do so 07.05.22 # i don't -- it's only gaining them customers 07.06.59 # they're probaby worried about a tech support nightmare.. having to take calls about inoperative players due to firmware hackig 07.07.33 # if you follow the directions you'll be fine 07.07.46 # although some people did do it wrong and archos got stuck with it 07.07.49 # but they are evil 07.08.11 # heh 07.08.12 # they send an email to the head of avos saying "if you don't fix your firmware bug we'll just charge the customers a $100 reflashing fee!" 07.08.40 # *pictures evil archos head with scary face like this: >:D 07.08.57 # :) 07.11.41 # http://www.donat.org/michael/archos/ 07.12.00 # yup 07.14.10 # wow 07.14.18 # there are tonnes of stuff for the av320 07.15.41 # yeah 07.24.15 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 07.24.31 # hey midk, it was good talking to you.. i've gotta get to bed 07.24.39 # ok nite 07.24.43 # hmm 07.24.49 # you have the gmini 220 right 07.24.50 # i'll be back :) 07.24.52 # i have the 120 07.24.54 # not the 220 07.25.06 # oh mkay 07.25.08 # ok see you 07.25.57 # the 220 apparently does not have an spdif in :( 07.26.34 # oh 07.26.35 # odd 07.27.03 # hey, it appears that they've discontinued the 120 07.27.10 # it's no longer on their website 07.27.55 # oh really? 07.27.57 # already? 07.28.24 # they've replaced it with a GMINI SP 20, which doesn't have the CF slot and doesn't record 07.29.50 # the 220 is a nice unit but without an spdif input it doesn't quite serve my purposes 07.30.18 # maybe i need to upgrade to the AV320 07.30.18 # :) 07.30.43 # ooh lol 07.30.53 # yes i thought the 220 looked cool 07.30.55 # with the photo viewer 07.31.06 # although i was just wondering how nice it looked on the gray lc 07.31.07 # lcd* 07.31.26 # oooh, the 320 has spdif in AND out 07.31.58 # does it? 07.32.06 # *retrieves av from tv area 07.32.13 # hehe 07.32.15 # i had fun projecting videos onto the tv :D 07.32.20 # so it plays and records wav eh? 07.32.27 # interesting how archos doesn't advertise that feature 07.32.39 # yes, it's only new in a firmware update 07.32.41 # hmm 07.32.45 # audio out / spdif out 07.32.46 # and 07.32.52 # er wait 07.32.55 # audio in / spdif 07.32.57 # and 07.33.00 # audio out / video out 07.33.06 # i guess "spdif" is in OR out? 07.33.14 # i see 07.33.40 # http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500529_specs.html 07.33.47 # Stereo analog Line In & digital SPDIF Line In/Out. Composite Video/ Earphone/ Line Out jack. Built-in microphone. 07.34.03 # hmm maybe they got the analog and spdif mixed up? 07.34.04 # must be 07.34.17 # oh wait 07.34.19 # there's the line out 07.34.20 # heh 07.34.23 # whatever :) 07.35.07 # haha 07.35.14 # i like the cover over the mic 07.35.26 # it's very thin and vulnerable tin-foil-type mesh 07.35.35 # i like to push it all the time 07.35.39 # ok :) 07.35.47 # i also like taking off the side thing and putting it back on 07.35.49 # it's quite fin 07.35.51 # fun* :D 07.35.57 # the mic mesh on my gmini is quite sturdy 07.36.04 # yeah i was kidding 07.36.09 # i think it's pretty sturdy 07.36.11 # wonder if its the same 07.36.18 # does it have a sort of raised area in the middle? 07.36.33 # a lump 07.36.48 # yes! 07.36.52 # ooh same 07.36.54 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.37.00 # hi LinusN 07.37.10 # oooh 07.37.14 # i recognise this name 07.37.18 # hi linusN :) 07.37.43 # linus i just finished a binary clock mode for my clock 07.37.50 # and i also JUST remembered i forgot to draw it to the lcd. 07.38.08 # hello d00dz! 07.38.12 # oops :) 07.38.15 # :) 07.38.17 # it's a hidden clock 07.38.21 # it sure is 07.38.25 # it also locks up the box :D 07.38.31 # :O 07.38.46 # aww 07.38.51 # i think i have a nasty bug. 07.39.01 # my snprintf'd text is quite garbled 07.39.13 # so is the development done in C? 07.39.20 # ChefGerry: yup 07.39.24 # ah cool 07.40.22 # LinusN: i have dreams about implementing something for me GMINI 120 07.41.06 # avos? 07.41.11 # AHA 07.41.14 # I SEE WHAT I DID WRONG!! 07.41.17 # i think 07.41.25 # i forgot to safely remove it. 07.41.28 # wow, midk finds his own bugs! :-= 07.41.35 # LOL 07.41.52 # i used to always rip the cable out of my fm 07.41.58 # with this rec15 i always have to safely remove it 07.42.05 # and it always says "cannot remove at this time" 07.42.09 # but it still seems to work 07.42.16 # midk: i was thinking of moving the 7-segment code to the plugin library 07.42.26 # i updated it, did you see? 07.42.31 # there's two tyoes 07.42.34 # types* 07.42.40 # but hmm for what? 07.42.44 # do other plugins need it? 07.43.29 # well, not sure :-) 07.43.50 # lol 07.43.52 # if you want to you can 07.43.52 # i remember that i thought of a nother use for it when i wrote it 07.44.13 # i must have more gfx! 07.45.33 # wtf. 07.45.37 # midk: i sent you a bitswap.c ages ago, did you try it? 07.45.48 # oh, i couldn't get it to compile 07.46.08 # i was going to ask you about it + got caught up in other things, sorru 07.46.09 # sorry* 07.47.38 # i'm getting a new pc soon 07.47.42 # thus increasing my productivity 07.47.53 # the tetris update may well be done this year :) 07.48.34 # actually, wait, it's already almost june... maybe next year ;) 07.50.34 # i need to improve hand drawing 07.51.57 # oh yeah, did you have a look at that button rate function? 07.52.01 # i haven't thought about breakout in a bit 07.52.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.55.12 # ok, i really need to get to sleep 07.55.16 # i'll be back :) 07.55.18 # good night guys 07.55.21 Quit ChefGerry () 07.56.19 # ah same 07.56.23 # nite 07.56.30 Quit midk () 08.05.34 Join lImbus [0] (lImbus@89.191-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) 08.30.50 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a197.wi.tds.net) 08.49.12 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.11.14 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.11.14 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.16.19 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 09.16.35 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@naked.iki.fi) 09.52.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.54.29 Quit lImbus (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so cool") 10.16.09 Join mattzz [0] (~c2af7555@b107214.adsl.hansenet.de) 10.16.25 # hi folx 10.17.50 Quit adi|home (Client Quit) 10.20.13 Nick mattzz is now known as mattzz|away (~c2af7555@b107214.adsl.hansenet.de) 10.25.19 Nick c0utta{zz} is now known as c0utta{afk} (~c0utta@146.cust39.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 10.34.37 Join Bagder [241] (~dast@labb.contactor.se) 10.35.08 # yo Bagder 10.35.13 # hey 10.35.17 # :-) 10.37.36 # so, in the old curl CVS repos, I've just removed the root makefile ;-) 10.37.59 # we could modify the configure script or something in the old rockbox cvs 10.40.04 # björn mentioned changing "readers" 10.40.27 # ah, right 10.49.23 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 11.11.14 Join limbus [0] (~manuel@kernel.cycos.net) 11.38.14 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.38.37 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 11.52.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.34 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.41.00 Quit silencer (Remote closed the connection) 12.41.05 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@nino.via.ecp.fr) 12.56.52 Nick c0utta{afk} is now known as c0utta (~c0utta@146.cust39.nsw.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 13.05.25 Quit silencer (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.24.38 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 13.38.43 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.40.29 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.40.29 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 13.52.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.16.46 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.28.06 Join dwihno_ [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 14.28.07 Quit dwihno (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.43.06 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FCD7.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.43.39 # hi all 14.43.44 # yo 14.52.21 # LinusN, Bagder: Recently I announced my updated voice files on the ml. Is it possible to provide voice files on the rockbox hp? 14.52.34 # absolutely 14.53.11 # There are voice files available currently, but (1) iirc these are not up to date 14.54.04 # and (2) there are several voices files per language available in various places of the web 14.54.52 # As the voice files are binary, these are not in cvs, so how could we deal with them? 14.54.57 # various places? 14.55.12 # ah, ic what u mean 14.55.20 # Yes: Jörg's hp, Arnaud's, mine ... 14.58.07 # we should extend the d/l web page to allow for several versions of the voice files 14.58.50 # both release versions and voice variants 14.59.29 # at least a 2.3 version plus a "bleeding edge" 14.59.57 # Yup. E.g. I have 5 variants of the english.voice available, produced with different voices 15.00.03 # also, we should have the voice generation scripts in CVS 15.00.55 # Agreed. Is CVS able to deal with windows script as-is, i.e. with CRLF line ends? 15.02.08 # yes 15.03.56 Join quelsaruk [0] (~g43s@193.136.159.151) 15.04.03 # hi 15.10.47 # hola 15.16.00 # :) 15.16.59 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 15.18.27 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 15.18.28 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@naked.iki.fi) 15.20.15 Quit mattzz|away ("CGI:IRC (Session timeout)") 15.30.40 # time to go 15.30.40 # cu! 15.31.12 Quit quelsaruk () 15.44.24 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 15.48.46 Part LinusN 15.52.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.00.36 Join mecraw___ [0] (~mecraw@c-24-9-226-58.client.comcast.net) 16.55.36 Join mattzz [0] (~c2af7555@b107214.adsl.hansenet.de) 17.21.22 Quit dwihno_ ("behemoth") 17.22.39 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 17.27.42 Part Bagder 17.46.31 Join uski [0] (~moo@gandalf.digital-network.org) 17.51.40 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a197.wi.tds.net) 17.52.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.54.33 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a197.wi.tds.net) 17.56.54 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a197.wi.tds.net) 18.10.46 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9BFE.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.17.01 Quit mecraw___ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 18.25.28 Nick AciD is now known as AciD` (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.27.11 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.27.18 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.27.38 Nick AciD is now known as AciD` (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.32.43 Quit AciD` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.32.55 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.33.15 Nick AciD is now known as AciD` (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.36.22 Quit AciD` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.37.05 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.54.18 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.52.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.03.29 Join maedhros [0] (~maedhros@247.62-97-197.bkkb.no) 20.04.16 # Help! I get an "ata error: -52" when I turn on my JBR20! 20.04.49 Join mattzz_ [0] (~mattzz@b107214.adsl.hansenet.de) 20.05.40 Nick maedhros is now known as maedhros_ (~maedhros@247.62-97-197.bkkb.no) 20.06.05 Nick maedhros_ is now known as maedhros (~maedhros@247.62-97-197.bkkb.no) 20.08.32 # Help! I get an "ata error: -52" when I turn on my JBR20! 20.09.25 # I don't think it's the batteries this time... I just charged them for two hours, and the error still show up when I plug the archos 20.11.42 # does the disk spinsup ? 20.11.47 # did you drop the archos ? 20.12.12 # I have dropped it -several- times.. but not lately, no... 20.12.12 # do you hear unusual sounds when powering the unit on ? 20.12.19 # but I just set the batteries to charge 20.12.45 # I'll charge it fully (like 14hrs), then I'll get back to you.. 20.12.52 # yes 20.12.59 # just to make sure.. 20.13.07 # yea 20.13.23 # does the LCD background light flicker? 20.13.30 # they always do... 20.13.41 # no matter how well charged the batteries are 20.14.04 # a bit flickering is ok 20.14.20 # mine doesn't flicker at all 20.14.32 # but hypotetically (is that how it is spelled?), let's say the batteries are empty, and I load the archos fimware (F1)... what would happen? 20.14.34 # flickering is not a good thing, it may indicate some problem with the DC/DC converter 20.14.41 # would I get a read error there as well? 20.14.46 # maedhros: it will say "HD error" 20.14.50 # k 20.14.55 # prob. batteries then... 20.15.00 # but 2 hours charging should be ok for a correct startup 20.15.04 # I got some sort of hd read error.. 20.15.12 Quit mattzz_ ("Client exiting") 20.15.24 # unfortunately i think that the problem is not related to batteries as you charged the unit for 2 hours 20.15.33 # anyway, you can try a full charge 20.15.35 # k 20.15.37 # yeah 20.15.40 # I'll do that 20.15.40 # does the HDD spins up ? 20.15.47 # I don't remember 20.15.51 # ok 20.17.14 # K.. found some fully charged ones... HDD does not spin up.. same error 20.17.21 # hmmm 20.17.42 # that is.. it makes some low noise.. like it's trying to spin up 20.18.01 # how old is your JBR20 ? 20.18.06 # sounds like a car with a flat battery 20.18.14 # i dunno two-three years? 20.18.26 # ok, so warranty is expired 20.18.34 # you may want to try it with another harddrive 20.18.43 # hehe, I've opened it too.. so warranty is out of the question :P 20.18.45 # or you can also try the harddrive on some other unit 20.19.10 # what kinda unit would that be? 20.19.22 # (a laptop, an external usb2 HDD adapter, into a regular PC with a 2"5->3"5 adapter, in another archos, ...) 20.19.31 # k 20.19.49 # here we can buy a selfpowered USB2 adapter for 2"5 disks for 20 euros 20.20.17 # k... here in norway that kind ofequipment is quite expensive... 20.20.25 # where is 'here', by the way? 20.20.31 # france 20.20.46 # http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00017145.html 20.21.08 # 16,95 euros including VAT + shipping 20.21.10 # ;) 20.22.39 # k 20.25.58 # did you flash your JBR ? 20.27.44 # yeah 20.28.13 # It's actually a mitacle that it has worked so long.. 20.28.41 # about half a year ago, i drowned the whole thing in this pond... and it still worked 20.28.43 # ! 20.31.56 # maedhros uski: such selfpowered USB2 adapters are avaiable in germany too for about 30 euro (exkl. shipping) 20.31.59 # http://www.hiq24.de/product_info.php?cPath=125&products_id=579 20.33.22 # do I have to stars soldering to remove the HDD? 20.34.32 # no 20.34.35 # no soldering required 20.34.51 # only a torx screwdriver 20.36.27 # how much does a 2,5" >3,5" adapter cost? 20.36.41 # 10 euros here 20.36.59 # k 20.37.11 Join Nibbler [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 20.37.18 # gotta run now 20.38.24 # thanks for the help! 20.39.09 # see ya 20.40.52 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 20.40.54 Join mattzz_ [0] (~mattzz@b107214.adsl.hansenet.de) 20.41.19 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@dhcp119.contactor.se) 20.43.32 Quit Zagor (Client Quit) 20.46.31 Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.47.44 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 20.52.29 Quit limbus () 21.08.20 Quit uski ("Fermeture du client") 21.29.04 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 21.33.27 Join mecraw___ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 21.37.31 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 21.46.50 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 21.52.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.56.25 Quit mattzz ("CGI:IRC (Session timeout)") 21.58.18 Nick AciD is now known as AciD` (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 22.02.15 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 22.06.55 Join pfavr [0] (~Peter_Fav@c076102a.s-oe.bostream.se) 22.27.40 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.52B [Mozilla rv:1.6/1]") 22.31.17 Quit edx () 22.42.12 Join Rjc1286_ [0] (Joosa@ool-44c4728b.dyn.optonline.net) 22.42.36 Part Rjc1286_ 22.48.30 Join jakesir [0] (solaris@pool-141-157-100-161.balt.east.verizon.net) 22.48.48 Quit jakesir (Client Quit) 22.58.35 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a197.wi.tds.net) 23.05.47 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 23.05.54 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@nino.via.ecp.fr) 23.05.56 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a197.wi.tds.net) 23.11.00 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 23.11.07 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a197.wi.tds.net) 23.11.21 # there thats better... 23.11.37 # (switched clients again) 23.17.09 Nick scott666_ is now known as scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 23.25.37 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 23.39.58 Quit mattzz_ ("Client exiting") 23.42.03 Part amiconn 23.52.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"