--- Log for 09.06.104 Server: anthony.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 24 days and 6 hours ago 00.06.10 Quit Bagder ("Leaving") 00.19.24 Join NibbIer [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 00.24.53 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 00.29.50 # this whole bluechip drama is entertaining 00.29.52 # hi hardeep 00.29.58 # scott666: isn't it? :) 00.30.09 # heya Zagor 00.30.40 # doh, i'm missing all of it... i've had him on killfile list for a while 00.30.49 # hehe 00.31.01 # very little has come from him 00.31.14 # concerning the most recent drama anyway 00.32.56 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.33.53 # woud a link to the othelo (or other) plugin(s) that hes hosting be unreasonable? 00.33.58 # hey linus. starting the night shift? 00.34.07 # yup 00.34.24 # scott666: not at all 00.35.35 # ...except that he's violating the gpl at the moment ;) (but it sounded like that was mostly due to misunderstandings) 00.39.33 Join track [0] (909510b8@ACBE263F.ipt.aol.com) 00.39.41 # What happened to Othello? 00.40.28 # was one of my fave plugins 00.40.45 # get it from bluechip's web page 00.41.15 # was there a legal issue? 00.41.26 # potential legal issue 00.41.36 # in what way, who has the copyright? 00.41.52 # some guy who calls himself "BlueChip" 00.41.57 # oh 00.41.59 # ok 00.42.02 # track: look at the most recent rockbox mailing list archives 00.42.13 # I feel rockbox has reached the limit of all its feasable featuers 00.42.14 # and the irc log from yesterday 00.42.19 # ok linusn 00.43.47 # I like the greyscale 00.43.53 # would be great to use on the WPS 00.44.49 # Linus would this work? 00.44.55 # yes and no 00.45.19 # it takes too much resources 00.45.20 # ID3 artist fade in-scroll-fade out ID3 title fade in-scroll-fade out? 00.46.12 # that would look superb 00.49.16 # what u think of that if it was possible? 00.49.30 # would be ?ber-cool 00.49.36 # :D 00.49.47 # i dont think it would take THAT much resorces 00.50.42 # the gray scale engine is a major CPU hog 00.51.10 # oh :( 00.52.02 Join adiamas [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-143.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 00.52.05 # if only Archos put in something more powerful than a 12Mhz SHU 01.03.01 Quit track ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 01.03.09 Join Zakk_ [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 01.03.29 Nick Zakk_ is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 01.03.33 # hey all 01.03.46 Quit adi|home (Client Quit) 01.06.43 Quit AciD` ("tabarnack jva finir par le pitcher par la fenêtre le criss d'ordi") 01.09.20 # aww why othelo removed 01.09.28 # read the list 01.11.46 Part LinusN 01.14.36 # ah come on 01.14.40 # that's like the best game there is 01.14.53 # don't start 01.15.11 # don't start what? 01.15.21 # arguing 01.15.38 # yessir 01.16.01 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D10DF.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.16.11 # hi all 01.16.16 # hey 01.16.37 # Zagor: I found a problem concerning the patch tracker 01.17.22 # only one? ;) 01.17.56 # Some days ago I submitted patch #961252 by mattzz, but I cannot set the status to "accepted" 01.18.20 # s/submitted/committed/ 01.19.05 # testing... 01.19.12 # worked for me 01.19.51 # Yes, but then you are a project admin... Non-admins can only change their own patches 01.20.16 # ah, right 01.20.48 # Of course this is intentional, but if you don't want to give many people admin access, there should be a mechanism for committers to tell one of the admins to close a patch 01.21.20 # i have no problem giving tracker admin rights to committers. hang on... 01.23.45 # fixed 01.26.13 # Thanks. This may offload you, Linus and Daniel from requests like that 01.28.19 # indeed 01.28.35 Join BlueChip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 01.29.38 # hi there. time for the night shift, BlueChip? :) 01.30.33 # I'm hoping for an early on tonight ...but I normally get tied up in code ...i'm on about 36hrs atm, so maybe sleep will be forthcoming 01.30.49 # you're up pretty late yourself 01.31.11 # yeah. i'm about to go in a few minutes. 01.32.26 # I have a new game to play ..... 01.32.36 # find the source code: http://carangg.de/rockbox/spliteditor.php 01.33.19 # am I just plain missing it? 01.33.30 # i can't even find the binary! :) 01.33.42 # BlueChip: This is something I was also looking for... 01.33.44 # lol 01.33.49 # it LOOKS awesome! 01.33.56 # indeed 01.34.19 # Zagor: The binaries are there. 01.34.28 # ah, found them 01.34.45 # where? 01.34.52 # http://carangg.de/rockbox/ 01.35.20 # Even http://www.carangg.de/rockbox/splitedit_rec.zip and http://www.carangg.de/rockbox/splitedit_fm.zip 01.35.22 # just binaries :( ...i was gonna update it :( 01.35.58 # Obviously these use a modified version of the core firmware 01.36.27 # wonder why he chose to do that? 01.36.47 # amiconn: why is that obvious? 01.37.21 # the mail I replied to which spawned the mail with the link was that it did not work with rockbox firmware 01.37.24 # I guessed it since the .ajz files are included. I can't know for sure since there is no source 01.37.39 # ah right, good clue 01.38.04 # (a clear violation of the gpl btw) 01.38.09 # yes 01.39.02 # Perhaps we should just ask him to publish the sources 01.39.04 # i think he submitted a patch of that long ago, but I doubt it's the same version 01.40.37 # nah, can't find it 01.41.01 # its not in patch traker I went through all those the other night 01.41.12 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 01.41.12 # there's only a few real gems on there imho 01.41.25 # yes 01.41.59 # file sort gets 10 points from the english jury 01.42.14 # I would love all my playlists at the top 01.42.20 # :-) 01.42.31 # and it is a beautiful patch 01.43.15 # One patch I will have a closer look at is #861278, if someone else isn't faster than me. 01.43.31 # wassat 01.43.41 # i found a very old mail discussing the split editor: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-10/0448.shtml 01.44.32 # comment: "stupid" 01.44.35 # wth. 01.44.50 # Although simple, it would fix something that starts to annoy me - after exiting a plugin, one should be in the list of plugins, but is not 01.44.50 # midk: ? 01.44.58 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=861278 01.44.59 # the attachment is not there :( 01.45.01 # someone left a comment 01.45.23 # amiconn, i also wish it would stick to plugin screen 01.45.33 # if i complete a game of tetris it dumps me back to the menu 01.45.42 # which reminds me i need to submit my tetris patch. thank you! 01.45.46 # midk: ah, right. random people are lovely. :-) 01.45.51 # anyone note the nasty USB bug in kbd.c 01.45.56 # LOL Zagor 01.46.21 # BlueChip: you make it sound like there's only one :) 01.47.06 # lol - just thought I would mention that the plugin needs to return -2 or soemthing to indicate a usb event - it display the usb screen and carries on running the keybboard program 01.47.19 # nahahhaahhahhahahh 01.47.22 # *coughs 01.47.38 # I have noticed a lot of USB problems - but not sure who is to blame Windows98 or Rockbx 01.48.34 # depends on the problem. rockbox does nothing except enabling usb, so actual usb problems are probably not it. 01.49.17 # does the act of displaying the screen enable the usb? 01.49.30 # no, but we do it at the same time 01.49.39 # not in keyboard.c 01.49.58 # well we have bugs :) 01.49.58 # if (usb) show_screen; continue; 01.50.10 # ooooooooooo 01.50.53 # of course, just identifying them to those who can make a difference when I spot them 01.50.57 # note that usb_screen() does not return until usb is disconnected. 01.51.22 # ahh - so displaying the screen DOES activate the usb 01.51.48 # so why does a plugin HAVE to return immediately after? 01.51.57 # well it depends on what abstraction level you mean, but yes in that case. 01.52.02 # with return(USB_EVENT) 01.52.54 # i presumed I displayed the screen and the return told the main code to do the usb thing ...why can the plugin not just carry on where it left off? 01.53.47 # do we really have such a rule? 01.54.17 # there is no official programming spec that I know of, but every plugin does it 01.54.23 # Zagor: One could think so, since all plugins act that way 01.54.55 # not helloworld ;) 01.55.08 # it would save me no end of code and make my program cooler if it is not required 01.55.35 # If it is not necessary, it should even be possible to let the plugin run _while_ usb is connected (as long as there is not harddisk access) 01.55.55 # iiiinteresting 01.56.16 # amiconn: we can potentially run a lot of stuff during usb connection, but it's hairy since all disk access would make it hang 01.56.51 # we haven't really seen the need to run anything during usb transfers 01.57.16 # pointless animations :) 01.57.19 # One could continue playing a game while transferring files... 01.57.19 # in greyscale 01.58.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.58.51 # that's absolutely possible. but is it worthwhile? currently Rockbox ensures that nothing accesses the disk during usb access. I don't know if it's a good idea to let all plugins ensure that on their own. 01.58.59 # is it possible to delay for .5S before enabling USB - mine nearly always fails if I put the plug in slowly 01.59.12 # sure 01.59.20 # odd problem though 01.59.38 # if I jam the connector in real fast it work 95% of the time 01.59.45 # *works 02.00.01 # if I put it in slowly - the handshake starts and then fails 02.00.26 # I think it is handshaking while the connector is still moving - Rockbox is just too efficient - lol 02.00.56 # a delay sounds like a good idea 02.00.56 # BlueChip: It may well be the "other side" (pc) 02.01.57 # My results have been reliable for the past few days while I have been finalising the bet of audio_3587 02.02.40 # *beta 02.04.09 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.04.42 # i need to get some sleep. see you guys. 02.04.52 # nite 02.04.52 # Nite Zagor 02.04.55 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 02.05.02 # I'm off too 02.05.06 # nite ami 02.05.11 # nite all 02.05.13 Part amiconn 02.05.21 # seeya bc? 02.05.33 # soon enough 02.34.48 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@81.56.71.56) 02.36.56 Quit silencer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.40.24 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@nino.via.ecp.fr) 02.41.30 Quit silencer (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.41.30 NSplit anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.41.30 Quit elinenbe (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.41.30 Quit Ka_ (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.50.26 # nitey nite 02.50.31 # nit 02.50.32 # nite* 02.50.36 Part BlueChip 02.53.02 Quit silencer_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.59.26 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@adsl.via.ecp.fr) 03.08.46 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@nino.via.ecp.fr) 03.17.18 Quit silencer (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.20.01 NHeal (timeout) anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.46.51 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.57.00 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.57.00 Join Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 03.58.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.33.16 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: nine out of ten gynecologists recommend it") 05.29.56 Join NibbIer [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 05.31.27 Quit midk ("sudden death, yo?") 05.36.15 Join Zakk_ [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 05.36.36 Nick Zakk_ is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 05.58.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.06.48 Quit midk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.09.49 Join Zakk_ [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 06.10.09 Nick Zakk_ is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 06.31.49 Quit midk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.31.49 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.31.59 Join midk [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 06.58.22 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 06.59.11 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 07.00.00 Part scott666 07.03.31 # hi linusn 07.09.06 # hi 07.16.21 Part LinusN 07.24.42 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.49.07 Quit midk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.49.13 Join Zakk_ [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 07.49.37 Nick Zakk_ is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 07.57.42 Join NhiKo [0] (jirc@62.147.195.196) 07.58.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.58.54 Quit NhiKo (Client Quit) 08.10.20 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 08.12.00 # rebooting brb 08.12.18 Quit midk ("sudden death, yo?") 08.13.29 Join NibbIer [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 08.13.53 Join Zakk_ [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 08.14.18 Nick Zakk_ is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 08.22.26 # hmm, i seem to have a firewall installed but cannot locate it. 08.22.27 # windows sucks. 08.33.39 Join oxygen77 [0] (~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net) 08.33.47 Part oxygen77 ("Leaving") 08.57.00 Nick midk is now known as midk|zzz (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 09.32.31 Join mattzz [0] (~c2af7556@c227176.adsl.hansenet.de) 09.32.51 # g'murnin' 09.33.31 # Goth mourning :[ 09.34.27 # huge thunderstorms in hamburg today - reminds me pretty much of "day after tomorrow".... 09.34.41 # It has begun? 09.34.45 # Now we die? 09.34.53 # the nothern current.... yes 09.39.00 # Is there a possibility of automatical scrolling a playlist? (so that the current title is visible) 09.41.58 # how do you mean the playlist? 09.42.04 # the name of it, the current song playing? 09.42.39 # yup 09.43.44 # if I do "view current playlist" 09.47.35 # ahh.. dunno.. havn't played with it in a while.. 09.53.36 Quit mattzz ("CGI:IRC") 09.58.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.27.39 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7F3D3.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.42.39 Join Bagder [241] (~dast@labb.contactor.se) 10.50.43 # moin moin 10.50.57 # howdy ho 10.51.02 # hehe 10.53.15 Join uski [0] (~uski@2001:7a8:3bb9:0:0:0:defa:ced) 10.53.51 # Mr. Bagder \o/ 10.54.33 # hi all 10.54.37 # ooo, a Bagder 10.54.39 # rare specie 10.54.59 # dyslexic animals are! ;-) 11.10.43 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.18.10 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (Lore@sourpuss.net) 11.18.26 # hi Jörg 11.18.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi Jens ;-) 11.19.31 # hi joerg 11.24.44 # lunch! 11.58.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.55.07 Join NibbIer [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.03.46 Join striders [0] (~nobod@languedoc-1-82-66-83-142.fbx.proxad.net) 13.03.51 # hi all 13.03.57 # hi 13.04.11 # hi have a problem =( 13.04.51 # with my archos jukebox recorder 20 13.05.05 # just open your heart 13.05.07 # :-) 13.06.35 # well 13.06.58 # my archos doesn't charge anymore 13.07.20 # that's bad 13.07.20 # i have tested with full batteries and it works, archos boots 13.07.59 # but when i plug the ACC-DC stabilizer 13.08.04 # nothing happen, 13.08.13 # it doesn't charge anything 13.08.37 # you tried the debug screen for charging? 13.08.40 # so, ii think it is the loader in the archos which is dead 13.09.06 # nothing happen, 13.10.06 # u mean, if i try to run the archos with full batteries and go in debug scree, i can see if the loader is dead ? 13.10.39 # plug in the charger and check the voltage in that screen 13.10.59 # ok 13.11.43 # right now, i'm loading new batteries 13.11.58 # i will try to see the voltage once batteries loaded 13.12.08 # and if it works what should i see ? 13.12.46 # if you select "view battery" and then press down once 13.13.05 # you should see battery voltage, external voltage and charger present 13.13.15 # the battery voltage should rise slowly 13.13.27 # it should say that the charger is present 13.13.27 # ok 13.14.19 # but when i plug the charger, the light bling green and switch off, and impossible to boot the archos :/ 13.14.39 # without batteries, the archos should starts ? 13.14.46 # if i plug the charger 13.14.48 # 1 - hold down on longer or 2 - start the archos first then plug in the charger 13.14.51 # no 13.14.56 # it doesn't work without batteries 13.15.28 # ok 13.16.17 # so, my batteries were completly dischargeed 13.16.49 # then the archos won't start again until they are at least somewhat charged 13.17.24 # ok 13.18.11 # if i put discharged batteries in the archos and plug the charger, the archos should start to charge batteries ? 13.18.18 # yes 13.18.30 # it doesn't happen :/ 13.18.44 # and those are good batteries? 13.21.37 # yes 13.21.44 # i have just bought new one 13.21.57 # and i'm charging them with a external charger 13.22.34 # given all this, it certainly sounds as if your archos has lost its charging ability 13.23.41 Quit c0utta (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 13.24.42 Join c0utta [0] (~c0utta@247.cust11.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 13.30.09 Join fdfdgfdgf [0] (~jirc@24.208.154.195) 13.31.49 # sup 13.31.54 # is a nyone in here??????????? 13.32.16 # /whois nyone 13.32.18 # oops 13.32.22 # B-] 13.32.30 # lol 13.32.35 # what are you doing up so early 13.33.15 # early? it's 13:30 here 13.33.35 # im in the united states 13.33.45 # you guys probably live in the UK im guessing. 13.33.50 # (yes, i think it is nomore able to charge, do u know if it is easy to change the charging device in the archos ? ) 13.34.48 # but um my question is 13.34.54 # i need help updating the latest patch 13.35.00 # i already downloaded it- but i don't know what to do 13.35.00 # fdfdgfdgf: sweden, actually 13.35.12 # latest patch? 13.35.18 # lol u speak good english then :) 13.35.23 # is there a latest patch? 13.35.30 # i mean the latest built 13.35.33 # *build 13.35.43 # striders: I don't know, I'm not too hw-skilled to that level 13.36.36 # striders: the charging regulator is a tiny little sucker, but several people have managed to replace it 13.37.04 # Anyone gonna help me? lol 13.37.27 # fdfdgfdgf: to do what? 13.37.51 # i just donwloaded the latest build - how do i install it 13.38.09 # you tried reading the manual? 13.38.30 # i dont have it - i'd figure it would be easier just coming here and ask 13.38.41 # LinusN: ok, thanx, do u know where i can buy this stuff ? 13.39.11 # www.newmp3technology.com 13.39.26 # fdfdgfdgf: unzip it to your archos 13.39.34 # thx 13.39.50 # bagder: ok hold on 13.42.51 Join dwihno_ [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 13.43.26 # So just extract it 13.43.40 # yes 13.43.43 # blam 13.44.03 # okay did that 13.44.04 # now what 13.44.31 # reboot your archos 13.45.38 # it still says v 050404 13.45.49 # 040505 13.46.12 # is that flashed? 13.46.24 # what do you mean 13.46.42 # how do you install the previous version? 13.46.46 # did 13.47.01 # Don't remember ... 13.49.26 # well ???? 13.50.07 # when you boot, does it say something on the LCD before the rockbox logo appears? 13.51.08 # no under the rockbox logo theres a date 13.51.43 # ok, then you have flashed your firmware earlier 13.52.23 # ok 13.52.37 # also- im leaving to hong kong tommorrow and probably will be at the airport for awhile 13.52.45 # is it okay to charge the player while listening to it? 13.53.12 # yes 13.53.20 # press F2, then Down until it says "All files" 13.53.38 # then f2 again 13.53.52 # after that, play the file called "ajbrec.ajz" 13.54.24 # then, enter the ".rockbox" directory and play the file called "rockbox.ucl" 13.55.30 # ok 13.55.34 # now wut 13.56.02 Join lImbus [0] (~manuel@kernel.cycos.net) 13.56.18 # what does it say on the lcd? 13.57.21 # 40609 13.57.28 # Yes!! So thats how you do it! 13.58.27 # Does it use up more battery while its charging if im listening to it? 13.58.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.59.50 Quit dwihno (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.00.20 # the charging will take longer, yes 14.00.54 # ok ... 14.01.16 Quit fdfdgfdgf ("Leaving") 14.02.00 # you're welcome :-) 14.02.20 # rudeness 14.04.01 # a bit of a worry if you didn't know you'd previously flashed.. 14.04.35 # it does prove that people trust unknown strangers on the internet 14.04.40 # :-) 14.04.44 # "go ahead, do this" 14.06.11 # do you have any idea how many people use vbrfix ? 14.07.55 # i think quite a few 14.08.05 # could it be a plugin ? 14.08.11 # yes, now it can 14.08.33 # since we implemented the "open with..." 14.08.34 # imo, it should be 14.08.41 # i'm nearing the end of the context sensitive F3 and vbrfix is a lot of code 14.08.51 # coffee refill! 14.08.59 # wine refill 14.09.28 # is vbrfix a lot of code? 14.09.39 # a lot of code i don't understand :) 14.10.04 # i'm just copying it out of onplay.c into my own action.c 14.10.12 # ah 14.10.22 # with a view to kill onplay.c 14.10.43 # i definitely think vbrfix should be a plugin 14.11.02 # Agreed. 14.11.05 Nick dwihno_ is now known as dwihno (~dw@81.8.224.89) 14.11.23 # any takers ? 14.11.30 # i'll do it 14.11.45 # i was joking linus - i can do it 14.11.59 # although if you understand it.... 14.12.11 # i wrote it :-) 14.12.14 # and it does have your "style 14.12.57 # LinusN: vbrfix with, or without starka såsen på? :) 14.14.10 # sill å potatis 14.14.47 # macdonalds har fått konkurrens 14.15.44 # baabaa bawbaw faranf maak 14.15.58 # bork! bork! bork! 14.16.24 # and what was the chef's name ? 14.16.35 # "the swedish chef", afaik 14.17.11 # indeedelio! 14.17.15 # and what does "bork" mean in swedish ? 14.17.24 # absolutely nothing 14.17.26 # It goes back to the middle ages. 14.17.30 # thought so 14.17.39 # It was about Ronja and her good friend, Birk Borkasson 14.17.48 # dwihno: booooo 14.17.50 # :) 14.17.54 # *drumroll* 14.18.21 # i heard the swedes go crazy in summer 14.19.49 # Hey, I have heard a lot of funny stories about the swedish 8-) 14.19.58 # but maybe I should keep my mouth shut 14.21.06 # We have a huge genre of jokes that start with "The finnish, the swedish and the (russian/french/english/norwegian) went/did/..." 14.21.32 # linus, i'll remove vbrfix from the f3 context menu, ok ? 14.23.47 # Hes: we call them Bellman stories in sweden 14.23.59 # Hes: the norwegian, the danish and Bellman 14.24.10 # yes 14.24.27 # done.. 15.13.07 Quit elinenbe (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 15.28.32 Part Bagder 15.39.05 Nick midk|zzz is now known as midk|away (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 15.42.11 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.47.36 Part LinusN 15.58.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.06.24 Join slazZ [0] (~slazzy@c211114.adsl.hansenet.de) 16.07.48 Quit slazZ (Client Quit) 16.08.00 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 16.15.57 # dwihno: now that I tought about carefully: how did you type in bold letters the Bork of "Borkasson" @ 14:17 ? 16.19.04 # lImbus: it's in the client 16.19.16 # ctrl+b perhaps 16.36.43 # ok, it's not in the opera-irc-client ;-) 16.37.11 # hah 16.37.13 # :) 16.37.18 # Hello! then? ;) 16.38.10 # heh, they are talking about 6 new security problems in cvs ! 16.38.30 # Opera CVS? 16.38.37 # Or just simply CVS? :) 16.40.09 # lol opera cvs. that would be leet, welcome the fat client that does relly everything ! 16.40.34 # no, there seem to be a few new problems in the cvs-server-code 16.41.41 # http://security.e-matters.de/advisories/092004.html 16.42.41 # ah 16.46.53 Join Occupantsless [0] (~andyman1@user-0cetovd.cable.mindspring.com) 16.47.07 # hey all 16.48.03 # hello? 16.48.11 Nick Occupantsless is now known as AndyMan1 (~andyman1@user-0cetovd.cable.mindspring.com) 16.49.26 # hi andyman1 16.49.36 # i've got a problem 16.49.43 # think you can help? 16.49.51 # i hope so. tell me 16.50.39 # i've got a Jukebox Studio 20. everything was going fine until yesterday. I try and boot it up, it sits there for a while, then finally says "No fat32 partition" 16.51.01 # and some other message...*boots up to type that in* 16.51.24 # mhmm. I'm not that in at that low level, but lemme try 16.51.32 # P0 S:3F 16.51.47 # I suppose you changed nothing ? 16.51.59 # just loaded rockbox default 16.52.06 # flashed ? 16.52.14 # uhh..... 16.52.19 # =P 16.52.28 # did you flash rockbox into the devices memory ? 16.52.35 # i suppose if i don't know what that is, i didn't do it 16.52.40 # i just did the default upload 16.52.51 # i don't think i flashed it 16.53.05 # other question for same purpose: how long did your rockbox take to boot up ? about 4 seconds or rather 10, more than ten ? 16.53.11 # i did a quick search for what to do, and i found something saying to boot into the regular jukebox OS, using the on key and F1...problem is, i don't have an F1 16.53.25 # about 4-10 seconds 16.53.38 # F1 is the first of the three keys underneath the screen 16.54.11 # i've got ON, MENU, and that 4 button play/pause, minus, plus, stop 16.54.30 # NO keys underneath the screen ? 16.54.39 # nope... 16.54.44 # ugh, you got a archos studio 16.54.51 # yeah 16.54.51 # its a little bitch 16.55.06 # been through about 5 of these through a best buy warranty 16.55.07 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/devicechart.html 16.55.37 # yeah, second one from the left is me 16.55.39 # I must have overread that, I tought you were on a recorder. 16.55.45 # my bad 16.56.07 # the f1-story only applies to flashed devices only, IMHO. a studio cannot be flashed. 16.56.20 # are you a small bit in cimputers or electronics ? 16.56.28 # not really, why? 16.56.42 # i mean, if i have to fiddle with it, i'll try 16.56.49 # but i haven't done much hardware stuff 16.57.22 # i've tried booting it up into usb to try and delete it through Windows, but it couldnt access the drive 16.57.38 # most probably, there is no partition on the hard drive, it's gone, or broken, or the harddisk disconnected itself due to joggling and shaking 16.57.38 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 16.58.20 # it will spin up a little bit, and I did get it to display a drive in Explorer, but nothing else 16.58.29 # so guide me along, sensei 16.58.33 # =P 16.58.38 # ohh, if the usb thingy works, you should first try to reformat the drive trough the usb. (I ever thought it souldn't work) 16.59.02 # well it sort of works, it takes about ten minutes to find the drive, and wont get past that 16.59.05 # i'll try again 16.59.26 # what windows version ? 16.59.29 # XP 17.00.04 # my computer->right click->manage 17.00.06 # yeup, it hops into the "usb active..." thing like normal, windows knows there is a usb device, but no drive yet 17.00.40 # -> storage->disk managment 17.00.47 # and i'm going to lose all my songs, aren't I? grrr. =P 17.01.36 # yeah, you'll lose them as far as there will be NOT there instead of beeing there but unreacheable. dunno which of both hurts more :-/ 17.02.10 # I'm trying to access it one more time 17.02.24 # i'll open up the events manager and see if any message might be helpful 17.03.00 # event id 51: An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk1\D during a paging operation. 17.03.32 # bof, the event manager isn't verbose enough most of the time 17.03.51 # if it can't access the drive, am i going to be able to format? 17.04.06 # not without opening your unit 17.04.06 # i tried formatting one before and it just killed it completely 17.04.14 # errr. 17.04.30 # i've been through a lot of these =P 17.04.43 # i guess i'm going to have to open it 17.05.16 # you'll have to open the device, extract the hard disk and connect it to your computer through a special convertor adaptor connector 17.06.27 # uhh... 17.06.34 # crap 17.06.34 # your computer then will have full access to it. you'll be able to format it, create the partition (formatted with fat 32 IIRC), all that you cannot do normaly trough usb 17.06.55 # where do i get this convertor adaptor connector? 17.07.49 # good question. 17.08.06 # i'll recommend to ask a local computer dealer for. 17.08.38 # or even see ebay for a 40->44 pins adaptor. ide, laptop/notebook harddrive should be suitable keywords 17.09.02 # i can search newegg or go to Fry's to find one 17.09.11 # what exactly is it called 17.09.32 # well, it changes from dealer to dealer. 17.09.55 # it is an adaptor to connect a notebook hardrive to a ususal desktop pc 17.10.03 # ok 17.10.41 # better ask in a small tiny computer store if you can borrow one. i could imagine fry's asks half about a forune for that 17.11.10 # ever opened a pc ? connected a hardrive ? I recommend this to be prerequisites with the next steps 17.11.23 # this'll be a first 17.12.03 # it's a small bit tricky cuz there is no indication in which way the adaptor has to be connected to the hard drive. 17.12.18 # fifty fifty ok, fifty fifty death 17.12.37 # better get someone used to hardrives and pc's 17.12.51 # so what i need is an adaptor that goes from 40 to 44 pins, from a laptop to a computer 17.12.59 # i think i know a local place that might do it 17.13.26 # from a laptop's HARDRIVE to a normal computer hardrive cable. 17.13.27 # whats the name of the screw type on these thing? the wierd diamond shape 17.13.32 # my bad =P 17.13.41 # what thing ? 17.13.51 # phh, on the rockbox ? 17.13.53 # the screw type on the Jukebox 17.14.08 # so i can actually enter this thing 17.14.49 # ok, if it's the same for jukebox studio and recorder AND it's called the same in the us than here in europe, you should head for a set of TORX screwdrivers 17.15.28 # get that: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/disassemble.html 17.15.56 # ok 17.18.27 # if i can get them to get in there and do this, i'll still need to format, i can't just delete the rockbox stuff and see if it works, correct? 17.23.16 # are there any other directions out there for what to do after its disassembled, with pictures? i'm sure any help i can give them will be huge 17.29.08 # sorry for beeing afk 17.29.16 # no prob 17.29.36 # you should be first be able to get the original archos firmware running 17.30.02 # then, through usb, you can install eveything rockboxy 17.30.18 # after the format, what will i need to do? 17.30.24 # to get the archos stuff going 17.30.54 # normally plain nothing, except from uploading a few mp3-files 17.31.06 # ok 17.31.15 # I havn't yet understood your second queston over there 17.32.15 # you're not going to believe this... 17.32.34 # i think this thing may still be under warranty 17.32.41 # is it void with the rockbox? 17.32.55 # some say yes, some say no 17.33.16 # if the harddisk got a problem, noone will notice you installed rockbox 17.33.28 # i mean, its from Best Buy, so this may be so old no one would know the difference 17.35.16 # hmm...i'm going to hold off, try and get the warranty...if they don't accept it, i'll go this route 17.35.19 Join musicman [0] (jirc@2-126-118-80.kaptech.net) 17.35.35 # hi everybody 17.35.47 # i think my odds might be better than 50/50 with the warranty =P 17.36.02 # hi 17.36.17 # andyman1 I would give a try to the warranty either 17.36.26 # /too 17.36.26 # sorry for my englih . it's very poor 17.36.43 # it's better than most native speakers =D 17.36.56 # lol 17.37.27 # i'm looking for a maner to add auto pause function for my archos recorder 17.37.29 # i've printed out how to get into the jukebox, hopefully no one will notice the rockbox 17.37.43 # so warranty first, hack later 17.37.44 # do you know where can i ask it ? 17.38.14 # thanks a LOT for your help, lImbus 17.38.18 Quit striders (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.38.31 # i may be on at a later date 17.38.55 # bye all 17.39.01 Part AndyMan1 17.39.35 # bye 17.40.07 # nobody to answer me ? 17.46.09 Quit musicman ("Leaving") 17.58.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.04.57 # musicman: better wait a while: 18.27.09 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.17.22 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-59-203.mn.client2.attbi.com) 19.58.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.05.05 Join NibbIer [0] (nibbler@port-212-202-78-119.dynamic.qsc.de) 20.13.41 # Hm, More CVS remote vulnerabilities 20.45.30 Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@host217-43-202-11.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) 20.47.40 Quit Guest1 (Client Quit) 20.48.24 Join RedBreva [0] (~jirc@host217-43-202-11.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) 20.52.58 Quit RedBreva ("Leaving") 21.11.07 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 21.12.04 Part amiconn 21.36.21 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.52.35 Join moorkonig [0] (~trillian@port-212-202-174-104.dynamic.qsc.de) 21.53.58 Quit moorkonig (Client Quit) 21.58.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.00.48 Join netsrac [0] (~jirc@pD9E6DFB4.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.03.03 # Hi.... 22.06.00 Quit netsrac ("Leaving") 22.18.13 Quit uski ("Leaving") 22.32.07 Quit webmind (Remote closed the connection) 22.32.13 Join webmind [0] (~cme2@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 22.51.23 Join moorkonig [0] (~trillian@port-212-202-174-104.dynamic.qsc.de) 22.52.01 Part moorkonig 22.52.30 Join IRCza [0] (~IRCza@port-212-202-174-104.dynamic.qsc.de) 22.52.30 # Hi everybody ! 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