--- Log for 12.07.104 Server: bear.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 11 days and 19 hours ago 00.00.03 # ahh 00.00.04 # i see 00.00.08 # with rpn you have something different 00.00.14 # i'll make a ascii representation 00.00.52 # 3: 00.00.52 # 2: 00.00.52 # 1: 00.00.56 # 0123456789 +-*/ 00.01.06 # the bolded thing is the inverted cursor 00.01.24 # the numbers go upto 6, but i didn't want to flod the irc. 00.01.25 # *flood 00.02.03 # ok, I see. thank god logbot is not a op, he would've kicked you for color/bold. it wrecks up the logfile 00.02.58 # sorry. 00.03.09 # well, anyone reading the log will get the just of it :X 00.03.50 # I don't mind. anyone will understand: 00.03.57 # 0123456789 +-*/ 00.04.00 # ouch 00.04.11 Join Rob2222 [0] (Rob2222@ACB3F5D5.ipt.aol.com) 00.04.22 # there is a square before and after the '0' 00.04.35 # didn't know this can be copy&pasted and converted back 00.08.28 # ?? 00.08.37 # oh 00.08.55 # attention person reading the logs: the square means bold. 00.09.00 # ie: where the cursor is 00.26.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.31.30 # any1 here to help me ? I am about to flash my sweet rockbox the first time and I can't find the firmware_rec.bin 00.31.49 # eh 00.32.04 # i thought you just needed th ajz file 00.32.07 # but i'm probably wrong 00.32.51 # the ajz is one of the images. to start, (firmware_flash.rock) you need the bootloader. as far as I understood 00.59.46 # hmmm 00.59.53 # cvs is deciding not to compile 00.59.54 # damnit 01.01.32 # boofCodes my one does ?!? 01.02.47 Quit gromit` ("Client exiting") 01.04.29 # no no 01.04.34 # i just checked out cvs 01.04.36 # like 10 minutes ago 01.05.01 # and i tried to compile the uisim from cvs 01.05.04 # and it kept erroring 01.05.06 # on uh.. 01.05.07 # a tool 01.06.15 # ok, I didn't make it through the sim yet. 01.06.53 # i want to make my plugin on the sim before i do anything else. 01.07.02 # i don't want to update my jukebox before i get my shit working 01.07.08 # eh 01.07.10 # sorry about shit 01.07.55 # ahh 01.07.58 # *that 01.07.58 # that 01.07.59 # that 01.08.02 # freudian slip ;\ 01.08.18 # LOL 01.08.22 # running modified plugins on the reallife-box is no big danger. 01.08.31 # no danger at all 01.08.39 # yeah 01.08.45 # in the hardest case you have to take away one battery ;-) 01.08.45 # but i have to update my jukebox, reflash, etc 01.08.47 # and i'm lazy. 01.08.52 # reflash ? 01.08.58 # to update 01.09.05 # i have my stuff flashed 01.09.14 # i also have to find it.. etc 01.09.27 # just copying the rpncalc.rock should be ok ? 01.09.31 # whatever 01.09.46 # but my current one doesn't have snprintf? 01.09.47 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 01.09.58 # i thought rock only works with the version it was compiled on. 01.10.55 # ahh, well 01.11.12 # your rockbox.version != sdk.version 01.11.33 # yeah 01.20.09 Join gromit` [0] (gromit@w00t.adsl.nerim.net) 01.22.04 # fiiiix myyy cee vee ess! 01.22.10 # or i'll eat your kids :) 01.22.16 # haha. meany 01.22.53 # yes. yes i am. 01.23.22 # I just made it through, and my sim builds just nicely 01.24.01 # hmmm 01.24.02 # weird 01.24.08 # i'm getting errors with the tools 01.24.15 # what are you using to compile? 01.24.17 Nick boofCodes is now known as kaboofa (~kaboofa@dsl092-066-005.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 01.25.12 # bluechips (BC|feeding)'s last sdk (devkit 3.02) 01.25.28 # right 01.26.04 # i'm using 3.02 with the latest cvs 01.26.19 # did you checkout or update ? 01.26.23 # yeah 01.26.26 # i checkedout 01.27.10 # ... 01.27.15 # it has a vc6 file 01.27.18 # why the fuck am i using gcc 01.27.36 # ack 01.27.41 # sorry i keep swearing :( 01.27.44 # vc6 is for the ide only, it does not compile 01.27.55 # (yet) 01.28.04 # >_< 01.30.29 # lImbus: did you figure out flashing? 01.31.25 # not yet 01.31.31 # want help 01.31.32 # ? 01.31.37 # that file is 'missing' 01.31.38 # mom 01.31.39 # or a nice link? 01.32.06 # firmware_rec.bin 01.32.11 # can't find it 01.32.15 # ILL GET IT 01.32.32 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/BlindFlashing 01.32.50 # http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash 01.33.04 # section 3 in my link 01.33.17 # ok, i'll add these links to the twiki-article 01.33.17 # STUF 01.33.19 # i gave them a direct link. 01.39.22 # convdbf keeps giving me errors 01.39.30 # hmm 01.39.32 # where is my knife. 01.41.36 # hmmm 01.41.37 # ok 01.41.38 # i just updated 01.41.52 # it appears the the source tree got modified between when i downloaded it and now. 01.41.58 # i know what's wrong kaboofa with convbdf 01.42.07 # i'll make it again 01.42.21 # and when/if i get 50,000 errors flying by, i'll let you know. 01.48.41 # t/rockbox-devel/uisimulator/win32 01.48.52 # ../../tools/convbdf error 2 01.50.20 # make[225]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/rockbox-devel/uisimulator/win32' 01.50.22 # make[224]: *** [sim] Error 2 01.50.22 # make[224]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/rockbox-devel/tools' 01.50.22 # make[223]: *** [../../tools/convbdf] Error 2 01.50.22 DBUG Enqueued KICK kaboofa 01.50.22 # make[223]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/rockbox-devel/uisimulator/win32' 01.50.24 # make[222]: *** [sim] Error 2 01.50.26 # make[222]: Leaving directory `/home/guest/rockbox-devel/tools' 01.50.29 # make[221]: *** [../../tools/convbdf] Error 2 01.50.32 # that is the error i keep getting 01.55.21 Nick BC|feeding is now known as BC (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 01.55.21 DBUG Enqueued KICK BC 01.55.27 # kaboofa: fixed it yet? 01.56.20 # nope 01.56.26 # why are you compiling with? 01.56.31 # cygwin 01.56.33 # BC BC 01.56.36 # your sdk 01.56.37 # full install? 01.56.43 # devkit 3.0 01.56.59 # most weird 01.57.06 # it appears that convbdf has not compiled 01.57.13 # http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/Win32_DevKit/RockBox-DevKit_v302.exe 01.57.26 # that's what i'm using + latest cvs checkout 01.57.53 # do you have directory DEVKIT/home/guest/mysource/buildfolder ? 01.58.29 # i have.. 01.58.32 # C:\RockBox-DevKit_v3\home\guest\rockbox-devel 01.58.36 # then 01.58.41 # C:\RockBox-DevKit_v3\home\guest\rockbox-devel\buildfolder 01.58.46 # thats good 01.58.55 # i called it "moo" 01.58.59 # look in devel/tools 01.59.03 # yep - moo is okay 01.59.05 # i have moo\.deps, Makefile, archos 01.59.17 # +d .deps, archos 01.59.48 # do you have convbdf.exe 01.59.57 # under tools? 02.00.01 # yep 02.00.03 # eh 02.00.04 # no 02.00.05 # i have scramble.exe 02.00.07 # that's the problem 02.00.12 # you need convbdf.exe under tools! 02.00.15 # how do i build the tools? 02.00.22 # they SHOULD build automatically 02.00.25 # just cd \tools\make 02.00.29 # they didn't, apparently 02.00.35 # bu, try type "make" while in the tools dir 02.00.39 # right 02.00.45 # maybe even 02.00.47 # make clean 02.00.49 # make all 02.00.51 # just to be sure 02.01.22 # error 2 is generally "command not found" in my experience 02.08.00 # i'm getting error 2 with convbdf even when i just run make in the rools dir. 02.08.06 # kaboofa, working? 02.08.16 # ignore that 02.08.16 # can i copy it over from my old sdk? 02.08.20 # NO! 02.08.24 # .. 02.08.27 # oh hang on 02.08.34 # copy what from what to where? 02.08.47 # just the exe? 02.08.59 # to be honest, you're much better off finding the source of the problem 02.09.08 # what major though? 02.09.08 Part kaboofa 02.09.23 # ouch. must have hurt. 02.09.45 # "what major"?? 02.09.51 Join kaboofa [0] (~kaboofa@dsl092-066-005.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 02.09.53 # ack 02.09.56 # what was that? 02.10.00 # 02.10.01 # i tapped ctrl+c a few times to kill make. 02.10.11 # i mean, what did you say 02.10.15 # better to use ctrl-break 02.10.41 # cygwin has problems with ^C sometimes 02.10.47 # i'm trying to kill make 02.10.51 # ahh 02.10.51 # right 02.11.06 # I think it must emulate ^\ 02.11.16 # i still don't see why make needs to spawn make 250 times 02.11.32 # rockbox makefiles are not the best in the world 02.11.49 # i can gather that :( 02.13.02 # bluechip: do you have another version the sdk? 02.13.52 # I suppose technically I am using 3.03, but the mods are all cosmetic 02.14.15 # argh 02.14.17 # I assure you that 3.02 works fine for me and many others 02.14.44 # it is a cygwin install with about 250MB of unwanted crap removed 02.15.12 # there is nothing special about it 02.16.22 # gwar 02.17.05 # what happened when you did make in the tools dir (very difficult to debug some things without knowing what errors they give) 02.17.29 # error 2 02.17.30 # a lot 02.17.43 # i'm going to try to just cc the one tool 02.18.36 # what does ~/../../version.bat 02.18.37 # say 02.19.09 # i just used gcc on it 02.19.11 # and it compiled 02.19.11 # wtf 02.19.21 # oohh 02.19.33 # ~>../../version.bat 02.19.33 # The system cannot find the path specified. 02.19.33 # Rockbox Devkit v3.02 - from http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems 02.19.33 DBUG Enqueued KICK kaboofa 02.19.33 # Cygwin v3.3.1 Package 02.19.33 # 'Source' is not recognized as an internal or external command, 02.19.36 # operable program or batch file. 02.19.38 # SH-1 Toolkit 02.19.41 # 'Source' is not recognized as an internal or external command, 02.19.43 # operable program or batch file. 02.19.46 # Cygwin Installer available from http://www.cygwin.com 02.19.48 # 'ECH' is not recognized as an internal or external command, 02.19.51 # operable program or batch file. 02.20.30 # that's interesting 02.20.35 # what is your path? 02.20.40 # don't know 02.20.41 # compiling. 02.21.10 # ah no, that's okay, I see, my mistake 02.21.34 # i just did /setup/SetPath.bat 02.21.40 # now i'm going to try to remake 02.22.01 # I'll let you get on with it then ;) 02.23.29 # wow 02.23.30 # it works now 02.23.43 # scott666: I finally finished flashing my box. that's awsome, it takes about 1,5 seconds from off to resume. AWESOME 02.26.10 # tell me too! 02.26.12 # wow 02.26.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.26.26 # it's more like 3 seconds though... no? 02.26.33 # yup. I wonder why I was waiting so long. 02.26.39 # no, it's much faster. 02.26.52 # mm\ 02.27.06 # other harddisk: Toshiba MK4025GAS 02.27.12 # ahhh 02.27.35 # Debug->Disk info says spinup time = 0ms ?!? 02.27.43 # must spinup disk before it reads 02.27.48 # go into a dir first 02.28.12 # cycle times both 120 ms 02.28.44 # right spinup time 990 ms. 02.30.07 # hmm 02.30.11 # rpncalc.c isn't being mad.e 02.31.42 # nm 02.31.48 # the next devkit is coming with an MD5 file!! 02.32.01 # lol 02.32.26 # tell us why 02.33.14 # gives people a nice simple way to test certain things 02.33.27 # sure 02.35.02 # there is no reason what so ever why you should be having these problems 02.35.24 # i suspect you have the same problem some1 else had 02.35.30 # bad files 02.41.20 # heh 02.41.24 # why use 7zip though 02.41.27 # why not rar or .zip? 02.42.59 # 7zip is a better compressor 02.43.01 # that's all 02.43.02 # :) 02.43.26 # personally speaking, I'm not really a second-best kind of guy 02.44.55 # right 02.45.02 # what about tar.gz ;) 02.45.11 # you already said zip 02.45.24 # tar = tape archive, .gz = zip 02.45.25 # :P 02.45.26 Join T^JulioVega [0] (~fred@pD9EE24C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.45.32 # kaboofa, go to 7zip website, there is a rating 02.45.33 # heyho 02.45.35 # +on it 02.45.43 # yeah 02.45.46 # but i don't want to use it 02.45.56 # hi T^JulioVega 02.46.00 # can sombody help me? 02.46.08 # with? 02.46.14 # flashing 02.46.15 # if you like zip, you should use 7-zip's multi-pass adaptive huffman table generator 02.46.25 # adaptive huffman? AHAHAHA 02.46.26 # or continue using tar.bzip2 ;) 02.46.28 # HAR HAR 02.46.33 # back to my code. 02.47.19 # again dude, I'm sure you can find loads of compressors that are suitable for "second-best" type people, you've not mentioned ARJ, ZOO or the elusive HA yet 02.47.33 # can someone tell me where i can download the right packet for my jukebox with the file "ajbrec.ajz" in it? 02.47.33 # LOL 02.47.49 # bc: there is this thing called standard 02.47.57 # where a lot of people have it 02.47.59 # etc 02.48.00 # anyway 02.48.10 # T^JulioVega, um.. 02.48.12 # back to code. 02.48.15 Nick kaboofa is now known as kaboofa`code (~kaboofa@dsl092-066-005.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 02.48.15 DBUG Enqueued KICK kaboofa`code 02.48.19 # http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash 02.48.23 # for flashing 02.48.31 # yes, what is the standard for self-extracting exe's nowdays? 02.48.32 # kool thx 02.48.44 # you saying i should use CAB? 02.48.47 # yeah 02.48.48 # i am 02.48.52 # you are 100% weird - lol 02.48.53 # no 02.48.55 # i'm saying that i don't like self extracting anything 02.48.55 # np* 02.49.02 # what type is the jukebox studio 20? is it a v2? 02.49.04 # because i don't want to run any code that i don't know what it is 02.49.16 # um 02.49.19 # studio! or player. 02.49.24 # studio 02.49.32 # i mean, when you purchase retail, that's different, but downloading from some guy named 'blue chip' sounds shady. 02.49.32 # player. 02.49.35 # shady in the pants! 02.49.42 # then I think you should not use anything modern - perhaps a full cygwin install would be better for yourself? 02.49.42 # now i code!~ 02.49.44 # ach du bist eh deutsch, wieso laber ich da englisch ^^ 02.50.00 # i'm usually on fbsd 02.50.05 # but i couldn't find sh1 stuff on ports. 02.50.26 # er, download the source and type make? 02.50.30 # T^JulioVega, studios cannot be flashed 02.50.40 # och n� 02.50.42 # fuck 02.50.46 # ndoch 02.50.54 # i would rather not install older gcc and sh1 stuff on my fbsd machine 02.51.09 Part kaboofa`code ("code. i don't want to argue with bc either.") 02.51.18 # LOL 02.52.01 # Requirements 02.52.01 # You need two things: 02.52.01 # The first is a Recorder, FM Recorder or Recorder V2 model 02.52.33 # 2. more luck than BC 02.52.36 # ups ^^ 02.52.58 # T^JulioVega, a recorder is a recorder or better, a player is a player or a studio (2 lines of char lcd) 02.53.53 # hey 02.53.59 # what does this mean? 02.54.00 # Players can also be flashed, but Rockbox does not run cold-started on those, yet 02.55.29 # huh? 02.55.32 # i am pretty sure players cannot be flashed 02.55.39 # at all 02.55.43 # they CAN'T\ 02.55.51 # they can be flashed actually 02.55.54 # i think it is POSSIBLE, but not done 02.55.56 # but.. rockbox doesn't run in flash 02.56.05 # ok 03.01.26 Join wiler [0] (wiler@adsl-68-92-121-250.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) 03.03.00 # using recorder and want to know if it is possible to program buttons to start recording right away rather then having to go through menu? using v1 recorder 03.03.35 # no 03.03.38 # well 03.03.41 # program - yes 03.03.46 # but you can't atm. 03.04.01 # it's something everybody wants to have (customizeable buttons), but nobody wants to implement 03.05.56 # it's quite easy just edit the menu system in the C code 03.06.17 # yes, like i SAID, you can just PROGRAM IT, but it's not YET implemented. 03.06.43 # yeah, pretty easy to modify the code to suit wiler, but not to make it customizeable 03.08.00 # well guys, it's 3:00 in the morning here in beatiful germany and i have to go to school at 8:00, so i'd better go to bed now 03.08.12 # cya 03.08.18 # hehe. ich muss auch morgen wieder raus. 03.08.20 # ciao 03.08.36 # morgen? du meinst wohl heute ^^ 03.08.40 # nja 03.08.45 # also gn8@ll 03.08.57 # hmmm, well i'll have a look at the code and see what i can do 03.09.02 Quit T^JulioVega ("Ich muss ins Geb�sch...Die Arbeit ruft...") 03.09.14 # i don't know a ton about coding in c but why not 03.09.28 # wiler: good starting point. that's how open source works 03.10.03 # so i assume i can download the latest source from somewhere? 03.10.07 # cvs 03.10.50 # either by cvs if you want to keep it up every day without fiddling in your changes every day, or a daily tarball if you plan to get the source once, then work in peace 03.11.40 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml or http://rockbox.haxx.se/cvs.html 03.12.23 # http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/Win32_DevKit/HowTo_CVS.html 03.12.35 # ah, well, of course 03.12.52 # linus put a lot of work into that 03.13.52 # I see 03.21.21 # ok guys, I really have to go to bed now. 03.21.27 # nitey nite 03.21.35 # night lImbus 03.21.37 # nite 03.21.50 # n8 all. 03.21.55 # nate? 03.22.04 # cd .. 03.22.04 # lol 03.22.12 # opps. it's rather german 03.22.20 # oohh, wondered that went 03.22.20 Nick lImbus is now known as lImbus|ZzzzzZ (lImbus@66.106-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) 03.22.35 # oh yes, n-acht 03.22.48 # right. 03.22.52 # ahhh 03.26.00 # http://www.sonicstudios.com/index.htm#intro/quit 03.26.08 Quit wiler ("[BX] PARTYTIME! 5 seconds to the millenium! 4...3...2...1...EOF From client") 04.26.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.29.26 # For those interested, I have updated my PLUGINS section over at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems 04.29.43 # yo yo yo 04.29.46 # *checks it out 04.33.58 # klondike win sequence is sooooooo overkill :) 04.35.20 # oh damn, i need to learn how to play solitaire now.. :D 04.35.51 # i must be a minute or two long - LOL 04.35.55 # it 04.36.04 # seriously? 04.36.12 # haha, updated archos.. 04.36.15 # tesitng starfield first. 04.36.21 # you say it is fast 04.36.24 # holy HELL 04.36.55 # new grafix lib :) 04.37.04 # hey the twinklies work now! 04.37.09 #