--- Log for 16.07.104 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 hour and 43 minutes ago 00.00.12 # the FM + v2 recorders already have LiIon 00.00.18 # yea 00.00.21 # and JBMM20, AVxx0 00.00.32 # don't think Li-ion lasts as long as NiMH 00.00.36 # that's why i like recorder 00.00.42 # yea 00.00.46 # Li-ion lasts longer for same weight/size 00.00.54 # that is, on one battery load 00.00.55 # get 10 hours on normal 2100Mah cells 00.01.10 # i think overall LiIon dies earlier, in 2 years or so 00.01.18 # yea 00.01.22 # long-term 00.01.24 # thats the problem that plagues the Ipod 00.02.01 # but i must admit, the ipod does look great 00.02.14 # but it's really expensive 00.02.18 # yea 00.02.18 # and no rockbox 00.02.27 # i think you are paying for the kudos of owning one 00.02.38 # just mp3 (or aac, whatever) player 00.02.40 # slap an Archos badge on an Ipod and I bet it will be much cheaper 00.02.47 # mp3, aac, wav 00.02.48 # :P 00.03.00 Nick Boofa`drawing is now known as kaboofa (~kaboofa@pcp03462569pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net) 00.03.02 # kudos? 00.03.06 # aac sounds great 00.03.21 # means, privelige, prestige, status 00.03.23 # that sort of thing 00.03.28 # ok 00.03.41 # i saw a test once, it said mp3 @128k was better than aac 00.03.48 # but only a really small bit better 00.03.53 # and wma sucked 00.03.54 # ok 00.04.08 # but that was at 128k 00.04.08 # AAC sounds better at lower bitrates than MP3 00.04.13 # ok 00.04.19 # well 00.04.24 # but i use 224->320 vbr anyway 00.04.26 # so heheeh 00.04.28 # most of my mp3s are all 192kbs 00.04.35 # most of mine too 00.04.37 # yea 00.04.38 # 192 00.04.42 # i already said bedtime 2 times... 00.04.42 # pfft 00.04.44 # wusses 00.04.46 # ok 00.04.51 # zeekoe: what time zone are you in? 00.04.59 # it's just friday here :) 00.05.04 # :) 00.05.07 # it's uh.. 00.05.09 # thursday here 00.05.10 # +2 including gmt 00.05.12 # its 23:05 here in UK 00.05.16 # gmt that is 00.05.19 # i mean 00.05.21 # including dst 00.05.24 # so 00.05.28 # cya tomorrow 00.05.29 # 18:05 here 00.05.30 # g'nite 00.05.31 # :P 00.05.33 # nite 00.05.33 # nite nite 00.05.38 # nite 00.08.08 Join wake [0] (~wake@69.158.12.29) 00.09.00 Quit gromit (Connection timed out) 00.16.17 Quit lImbus (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- irc client ownage!") 00.16.41 Nick gromit`` is now known as gromit`afk (~gromit@ALagny-151-1-13-162.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.17.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.19.18 Quit Smooth ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 00.26.25 Quit zeekoe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.05.51 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.06.19 Quit AciD ("Connection reset by pheer") 01.08.24 # yawn 01.42.03 Join dstar5 [0] (lee@ACC52A7A.ipt.aol.com) 02.01.05 Nick midk|game is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 02.09.21 # bye 02.09.29 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 02.17.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.25.27 Quit mecraw__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.41.37 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 02.54.04 Join IcedDog [0] (IcedDog@ftcn.160.ftc.fone.net) 02.56.51 # got a problem...I just upgraded my AJB hard drive from a 20GB to a 40GB...and I formatted the drive with Partition Magic to FAT32...but I when I try to boot up, I still get an error.."no valid FAT16/32" filesystem found 02.58.19 # any suggestions? 02.58.33 # format with winxp.. 02.58.35 # my computer. 02.59.33 # tried to...the only option it gives me is to format with NTFS 02.59.37 # w00t! 02.59.47 # hm... 03.00.26 # before I "formatted" with Partition Magic...the drive wasn't even showing in My Computer 03.00.48 # well try one more time 03.00.51 # don't let it prepare for the OS 03.00.57 # if that was an option 03.01.57 # are you trying to format a regular IDE HD? 03.03.18 # you cant format fat32 with xp 03.03.31 # after a certain number of GB 03.03.42 # die, scott. 03.03.55 # you die 03.03.57 # bitch 03.04.13 # IcedDog: got a win98 install you can use? 03.04.18 # weird...it shows up in My Computer as a FAT32 HD 03.04.19 # yes you can format fat32 with xp 03.04.32 DBUG Enqueued KICK scott666 03.04.32 # 10 00after a certain number of GB 01 03.04.35 # no Win98 03.04.44 # Ice 03.04.51 # under Partition Magic 03.04.54 # right click on the drive 03.04.57 # Format 03.05.01 # select the format you want 03.05.06 # FAT32 03.05.12 # do a full clean format 03.05.21 # which will erase everything to prevent recovery 03.05.27 # you should be gewd after that man 03.05.38 # did that too...I'll try it again 03.05.55 # ok.... 03.06.00 # so it did format 03.06.03 # but right after you reboot 03.06.06 # hey, does it matter if it's a logical or primary partition? 03.06.08 # the drive fawked up right? 03.06.27 # well one drive must be master 03.06.31 # the other one must be slave 03.06.38 # so set the drive with OS as master 03.06.48 # the one youre trying to use as back up data or watever is slave 03.07.21 # StealtheR: hes formatting an archos HD 03.07.38 # eh 03.07.40 # gotcha 03.07.48 # through usb rite 03.08.11 # damn its so cold in my room...i better go turn down the ac 03.08.48 # yeah USB...same thing...still doesn't work 03.10.03 # try another usb cable 03.10.05 # see what's up 03.12.55 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208-251-255-120.res.evv.cable.sigecom.net) 03.13.05 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 03.13.05 DBUG Enqueued KICK StealtheR 03.13.05 # * StealtheR 09- 07Disk Information: 09Total Disk Space: (074.63GB09/07491.62GB09 - 070.9% Free09 - 073 Drives09) 03.15.59 # YES...it works!!!! 03.16.18 # heeheh 03.16.19 # :) 03.16.31 # I reformatted it with as a primary partition...the logical wouldn't work 03.17.00 # congrats 03.17.08 # man...I feel much relief...now I just need to slap Rockbox on there 03.17.15 # thanks for the help fellas 03.17.36 # now what's your address? 03.17.47 # you want my old drive? 03.17.48 # lol 03.17.58 # i'll send you the bill. i take cash/money order only :) no cc/check 03.18.02 # haha 03.18.09 # What size drive did you upgrade to? 03.18.20 # from 20GB to 40GB 03.18.27 # IceDog: i don't have a mp3 right now 03.18.45 # no player? 03.18.48 # :) i got here couple of days ago to ask for opions on a jukebox which i planned to buy 03.18.54 # ahhh 03.18.56 # I upgraded my V1 recorder to 60 (55) GB 03.18.59 # but fellas in here told me it was a bad one 03.19.03 # so i dropped :) 03.19.08 # and station here since 03.19.12 # hahaha my new irc home 03.19.29 # Archos is nice can't beat having an open source community backing your product 03.19.43 # BTW, those rubber bumpers were a bitch to maneuver around 03.20.07 # yea 03.20.15 # i was gonna buy the jukebox studio 20GB 03.20.22 # but someone said it ain't gewd 03.20.31 # I would love to find a good case for my recorder and leave off those bumpers. 03.20.55 # what capacity HD did your v1 come with? 03.21.05 # 20GB 03.21.20 # nice upgrade ;) 03.21.45 # Is it true that those drives now go to 100GB? 03.22.09 # :( 03.22.12 # wish i got one 03.22.16 # even its 5G 03.22.24 # not sure 03.23.03 # hey 03.23.06 # when i took mine apart, a little piece of wire fell out...that was not reassuring 03.23.11 # who knows lots about laptop in here? 03.23.19 # I love the V1 recorder because you can change the batteries. 03.23.26 # turns out it wasn't anything important...maybe some piece of loose solder 03.24.02 # I like the fact that I don't have to take my batteries out to charge them 03.24.24 # but the green batteries that came with the unit were terrible...they would get really hot when charging 03.24.38 # thought my player was gonna melt 03.25.04 # bought some fresh name brand chargeables, and it's been all good 03.25.26 # Energizer 2300mah batteries are great, and cheap. 03.25.55 # hmmm, might have to try those...using 1850 right now 03.26.05 # use 2000mah 03.26.27 # Same package, just updated capacity. 03.27.34 # If you have 2 sets of batteries, charge time is irrelivent. 03.27.38 # brb 03.27.48 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 03.27.48 # * StealtheR echo "IceDog can you hear me now?"; 03.28.24 # Anyone try Linus' safe shutoff patch? 03.28.50 Quit wake ("leaving") 03.38.01 Join dstar5 [0] (lee@ACC4EB37.ipt.aol.com) 03.43.23 # nope 03.43.57 # even with USB 2.0, it still takes a while to transfer 12GB of music ;) 03.46.42 # yea 03.46.46 # but be glad its 2.0 03.46.57 # 1.1 slower than grandmom 03.47.02 # no shit lol 03.47.41 # eeehehhe 03.54.55 # * dstar5 had a reocrder 20 with usb2, but no usb 2 card in computer 03.58.12 # ahahahah 03.58.35 # send to me 03.58.37 # i got usb2 04.05.16 Nick midk is now known as midk|quakeIII (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 04.11.34 # laters 04.11.51 Quit IcedDog () 04.17.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.22.38 # can someone help me? 04.26.31 # perhaps 04.26.57 # yay scott666! 04.42.25 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 05.15.58 # eheheh 05.16.02 # sup dstar5 05.33.37 Quit midk|quakeIII (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.33.39 Join midknight2k3 [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 05.33.48 Part tpelliott 05.34.19 Quit gromit`afk (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.42.53 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 06.01.20 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.06.04 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 06.07.32 Quit midk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.07.38 Join midknight2k3 [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 06.12.17 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 06.17.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.24.19 Nick midk is now known as midk|quakeIII (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 06.50.04 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.05.12 Nick midk|quakeIII is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 07.07.41 Nick midk is now known as midk|quakeIII (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 07.42.31 Nick midk|quakeIII is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 07.42.31 Quit StealtheR (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.42.35 Join StealtheR [0] (XP@c-24-131-7-77.mw.client2.attbi.com) 07.43.31 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 08.17.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.31.16 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.10.34 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 10.01.36 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 10.13.54 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.17.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.29.02 Part LinusN 10.29.12 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.34.41 Part LinusN 10.35.02 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.41.18 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 11.11.05 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.11.05 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.38.19 Join Boris [0] (~jirc@dsl-082-083-117-051.arcor-ip.net) 11.38.47 Join lImbus [0] (~manuel@kernel.cycos.net) 11.38.59 Quit Boris (Client Quit) 11.39.14 # LinusN: you make me flashing all week long :-) 11.41.07 # :-) 12.15.21 # lImbus, at that rate your flash chip could wear out in a few hundred years.. :[ 12.15.24 # *feels sad for lImbus 12.17.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.34.53 Part LinusN 12.35.07 # :) 12.35.11 # goodbye linusn. 12.35.18 # that reminds me, i have to fix that clock bug. 12.35.23 # midk: I hope my children (and they) get better toys. 12.35.37 # * midk glances at clock - 3:35am - and decides, "ugh, tomorrow" 12.35.38 # s/they/theirs/ 12.35.50 # toys than..? 12.36.16 # better than*... 12.36.17 # ? 12.45.56 # sorry for not beeing native speaker !?! 12.46.17 # hm? i mean, better toys than what 12.46.20 # ? 12.46.52 # english is actually my fourth language (german, french, dutch, english. few words latin and russian do not count, eh ?) 12.46.59 # better toys that a archos. 12.47.02 # haha, i guess not. 12.47.10 # just for the case my flash-chips wears out. 12.47.14 # lImbus, the archos is a good toy if my click in installed. 12.47.25 # it takes 100,000 flashes for it to wear out. 12.47.29 # you really ought go to bed ;-) 12.47.32 # or was it 1,000,000 12.47.36 # it's only 3:45.. :p 12.47.37 # midk 12.47.37 # lImbus, at that rate your flash chip could wear out in a few hundred years.. :[ 12.47.47 # * lImbus kills opera ! 12.48.00 # midk said: lImbus, at that rate your flash chip could wear out in a few hundred years.. :[ 12.48.06 # right. 12.48.11 # that means.. 12.48.33 # well.. you get 100,000 flashes out of it 12.50.34 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 12.50.46 # lImbus, assuming you flash once a day it will last you about 273 years, 12.51.14 # but that's not typically true, for one you archos will probably only last a few years - you'd have to flash constantly to get it to fail within the archos' lifetime 13.03.41 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.04.12 # hi linusn 13.04.36 Quit c0utta (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.04.58 # hi 13.05.54 # just stumbled over my USB cable and wrecked the USb port on the computer :-( 13.06.14 # uhaaa. following to german security rules, this may never have happened. 13.06.14 # but i got a new 2.0 PCI card from the office :-) 13.06.27 # woo! 13.06.45 # *spots LinusN stealing hardware late at night 13.06.47 # only took me an hour to fix 13.06.48 # ok, that wouldn't have happened in germany neither 13.07.06 # and a reboot, if I see right :-/ 13.08.40 # no pci hotplug :-( 13.08.45 Join c0utta [0] (~c0utta@161.cust15.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au) 13.11.12 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 13.57.09 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.00.24 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 14.01.21 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.01.22 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 14.12.51 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~c2af7556@reladm.kharkov.net) 14.16.00 Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.17.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.22.29 Quit Rob2222 ("see you @ www.sunshine-live.de") 14.23.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> LinusN: are you reading? 14.26.10 Nick midk is now known as midk|sleep (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 14.26.58 # nite. 14.29.47 # * midk|sleep is away: SLEEEEPYING NERD!! 14.30.35 # midk|sleep: it's now 6:30 for you, sleep well 14.30.45 # [IDC]Dragon: i'm here 14.32.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi there 14.33.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> I was wondering if it would simplify flashing if the initial file contains no Rockbox 14.33.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> but Archos 14.33.35 # maybe 14.34.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> so, basically, after initial flashing everything feels still the same 14.34.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> (a bit faster already, because of my boot loader) 14.34.45 # sounds fair 14.34.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> then the user can upgrade to the Rockbox version of his/her liking 14.35.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> no messing with 2 versions, incompatible plugins, etc. 14.35.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> and I don't have to maintain that image 14.36.26 # sounds good to me 14.36.53 # do you have to update the boot loader to recognize an empty rockbox image? 14.37.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't think so 14.37.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> without second image, it should boot the first 14.37.45 # great 14.38.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> so I can even make a file with only Archos image, saves bandwidth 14.38.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> dunno if I ever tried, have to counter-check 14.40.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> If amiconn succeeds with running from ROM, the old topic of replacing the first image with a .ajz loader comes back 14.41.23 # is it really worth the hassle to run from ROM? 14.41.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> not for me 8MB user 14.42.12 # we gain 200kb or mp3 buffer 14.42.19 # of 14.42.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes 14.44.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> another view at it: it could be a good exercise for portability 14.44.11 # sure 14.45.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> the neo guys must have met this requirement 14.45.16 # yup 14.46.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> but they only run a fraction of rockbox anyway 14.46.52 # nowadays, yes 15.04.01 Join jfab [0] (~jirc@151.205.65.182) 15.04.28 # hello 15.04.31 # hi 15.05.01 # anyone familiar with jukebox hardware? 15.05.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> guess so 15.05.19 # i know my fair share 15.05.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> you bet 15.06.44 # I accidentally dropped mine and when I go to turn it on the screen is blank with the back light on 15.06.54 # player or recorder? 15.07.04 # player, sorry 15.07.12 # try this: 15.07.29 # push the display when you start it up 15.07.32 # I took off the battery cover and when I take the battery out and push it back in, but not all the way it turns on no problem 15.08.16 # do you hear the disk spin up? 15.08.43 # tried that didnt do anything different 15.08.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> is USB working? 15.09.14 # after I remove, re-insert the battery to turn it on then turn it off it does the same thing 15.10.08 # when I remove the battery it looks like there is a switch on one side not sure if that has anything to do with it 15.10.37 # it only seems to turn on when the battery just barely touches the connections 15.10.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> there is no switch 15.11.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> but it turns on by default as soon as getting power 15.12.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> is the box generally working, with just the screen being blank? 15.13.55 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 15.14.15 # gotta go now, cu around 15.14.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> cu 15.14.26 Part LinusN 15.23.02 # * [IDC]Dragon says bye, too 15.24.15 # when you hold the power button down the backlight lights up and the disk spins and thats it 15.24.25 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make (EOF)") 15.24.31 # and when you let go of the power button it stops and turns off 15.27.09 Quit jfab ("Leaving") 15.50.38 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.16.39 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.17.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.22.19 # uh 17.00.12 Join mecraw__ [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 17.11.28 Join wiler [0] (wiler@adsl-68-92-121-250.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) 17.12.53 # my archos recorder seems to be powering off emediately after i turn it on, any recommendations? 17.13.05 # evenw hen i plug it in 17.27.47 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 17.36.29 # [D 17.36.49 # i think the hard disk seems to be powering off each time i turn on the unit 17.36.58 # anyideas? 17.37.27 # hi wiler 17.37.38 # it may be some drained batteries 17.37.54 # have you any chance to charge the batteries outside of your unit ? 17.39.17 # it may be worn out contacts too. try to push the rubber bumpers together so the squeeze the batteries a small bit. 17.39.47 # hmmm 17.40.04 # well i have only had the unit for about a week, i do have an externel charger 17.40.33 # according to the website the unit was new as well so 17.43.09 # what kind of unit btw ? 17.43.27 # recoder, recoderv2 or player (as well as studio )? 17.44.48 # recorder 17.45.33 # i did not flash the unit only copied the files on and then removed them because of osme problems, is there anyway to make sure that we are infact loading the archos fermware? 17.46.42 # well, if you did not flash, you did not change anything on the hardware, and if you deleted the archos.ajb (or whatever it's called) you can be pretty sure you "uninstalled rockbox" 17.47.21 # if it took approx 10 seconds to "boot" before it was ready, you can be sure you did not flash 17.47.34 # :) 17.53.00 Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.10.15 # wiler: did that work ? or can you be happy without rockbox ? 18.10.47 # well, it seems that i need to charge it 18.11.03 # its hard to tell whats happening and no i will not be happy with out rockbox as i am one of your totally blind users 18.11.23 # and archos just doesn't fit the bill 18.11.37 # anyway i have it working on another recorder and its beautiful 18.12.25 # i just want this one to work as well 18.17.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.19.20 # so you take out the batts and charge them externally, right ? 18.19.54 # yep thats what i am going to do 18.20.02 # take forever but ahh well 18.20.38 # did binaural recordings on my other recorder and they are absolutely beautiful 18.21.02 # nice. I like binaural 18.21.08 # * lImbus is gaming now 18.21.40 # not sure what independant frames are though in the recording submenu, and i couldn't find anything about it in documentation 18.21.47 # ahh k 18.40.17 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.54.59 Join zeekoe [0] (~mother@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 19.11.33 Nick midk|sleep is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 19.14.42 # * lImbus is back from shootin and fraggin 19.15.11 # * midk is back (gone 04:45:24) 19.15.39 # so what are independant frames? 19.16.24 # iirc, helps for editing but results in a bit larger filesizes. 19.17.31 # can one cut mp3's with jukebox btw? 19.18.44 # btw, if you want easy mp3 cutting without needind to reencode and stuff: get this 19.18.45 # http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/~pesch/ 19.18.49 # mp3directcut 19.19.04 # it roolz, and is just 91kb 19.29.53 Quit wiler ("BitchX: now Y2K compatible!") 19.31.56 Quit midk ("just STOP it arspy") 19.32.03 Join midk [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 19.32.39 Quit midk (Client Quit) 19.35.15 Join midk [0] (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 20.09.31 # lol. the bleeding edge compile status matrix reminds me of pong :-> 20.16.09 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 20.17.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.18.10 Join Smooth [0] (909510b8@ACB91CE8.ipt.aol.com) 20.30.51 # hey smooth! 20.31.20 # i think it's not easy to put the statusbar on or off in different screens 20.31.31 # but hey, i dont know that much aout rockbox 20.31.37 # and have to drink tea now :) 20.31.47 # zeekoe, you can remove the statusbar() calls.. 20.50.53 Nick midk is now known as midk|shower (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.01.23 # hey Zeekoe 21.01.38 # whats up dude? 21.04.27 Nick midk|shower is now known as midk\ (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.04.30 Nick midk\ is now known as midk (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.06.16 # mi 21.06.38 # assuming you meant "midk", 'yo' 21.06.55 # ok 21.10.01 Part lImbus 21.10.49 # back again 21.10.57 # hi Zeeko 21.10.59 # e 21.11.02 # hi 21.11.11 # hm 21.11.17 # anyone else using xchat here? 21.11.20 # me. 21.11.31 # using leafchat myself 21.11.37 # leafchat sucks. 21.11.45 # FLAMEWAR! wheeeee 21.11.48 # well 21.11.50 # yEAh. 21.12.06 # how can i see the time before each message? 21.12.07 # leafchat does the job 21.12.11 # do you know? 21.12.15 # zeekoe 21.12.19 # settings -> preferences 21.12.29 # check "timestamp text" 21.12.29 # and 21.12.34 # as for the timestamp format box put 21.12.36 # [%H:%M:%S] 21.12.48 # hey 21.12.50 # the check 21.13.05 # whee 21.13.11 # and 21.13.16 # [%H:%M:%S] 21.13.23 # yeah 21.13.28 # it already was H:M 21.13.32 # right 21.13.34 # put H:M:S 21.13.39 # i have, now 21.13.45 # why? 21.13.45 # cool 21.14.18 # what's cool 21.14.29 # english weather 21.14.31 # should be hot 21.14.40 # same here in holland 21.14.41 # my archos gets very warm after constant use 21.14.44 # :) 21.14.44 # so? 21.14.53 # the metal body must act as a heatsink 21.15.02 # there's your weather 21.15.11 # lol 21.15.17 # it's just the hard drive 21.15.36 # in my notebook i have a 60GB, it's 50 degrees celcius at the moment 21.15.42 # lol 21.15.47 # * midk watches two 'uber-smart' enthusiasts argue amongst themselves 21.16.04 # midk: keep watching, if you like 21.16.20 # yea but in the notebook the drive rotation is constant, in the archos it "spins down" on a regular basis 21.16.22 # i want temperature monitoring in rockbox 21.16.27 # LOL 21.16.30 # Smooth: you got a point 21.16.30 # good one 21.16.35 # outside temperature gauge 21.16.42 # can't be that hard; other monitoring things are already there 21.17.05 # yea but you need hardware to physically detect the temperature 21.17.05 # zeekoe: how do you measure a temperature.. with no temperature measuring device? 21.17.13 # the archos doesn't have a thermometer inside.. 21.17.23 # write a software thermometer 21.17.23 # midk: the hard disk does 21.17.27 # well, i think 21.17.30 # nope.. 21.17.35 # why not? 21.17.38 # it just doesn't 21.17.38 # what a lame hard drive 21.17.44 # booh 21.17.44 # why aren't you smart? 21.17.46 # you just aren't. 21.17.47 # :p 21.17.54 # smart like S.M.A.R.T? 21.18.03 # and i am smart 21.18.21 # EVERY good harddisk has SMART, including temp sensor 21.18.23 # each to their own I suppose 21.18.24 # ah, it is apparent/ 21.18.32 # even some lame old 20 GB seagate thing i have 21.18.36 # well, not lame 21.18.48 # you're right - i bow down to your huge brain 21.18.52 Nick midk is now known as midk|move (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.18.54 # bbl 21.18.56 # ok 21.19.09 # never trust anyone who's name starts with the letters mi 21.19.13 # :P 21.19.14 # :P 21.19.21 # whose, you mean. 21.19.25 # *yikes* 21.19.38 # mommy, my archos talks to me, what should i do? 21.22.35 # lol 21.22.41 # tell it to shut up zeekoe 21.22.49 # or turn the voice off in the menus somewhere 21.23.03 # nah 21.23.05 # i like it 21.23.06 # :P 21.23.41 # lol 21.23.49 # you should be able to change the voice 21.23.57 # or even better, use your own vioce 21.24.44 # * midk|move is away: i, robot 21.24.46 Nick midk|move is now known as midk|movie (~Zakk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.25.10 # mi*******n 21.25.46 # hmm... i can use my own voice 21.25.52 # but it uses lots of time 21.25.59 # hm 21.26.02 # * zeekoe weird 21.26.22 # i meant: it _takes_ lots of time to record all the stuff 21.26.29 # yea 21.26.54 # and i'll almost never hear it, since it isn't being played when music is on 21.27.01 # anyway, midk lies :) 21.27.02 # http://www.almico.com/forumindex.php 21.27.22 # the HITACHI_DK23DA-20 does support temperature reading 21.27.24 # whee 21.28.17 # my archose uses the hitachi drive 21.28.24 # mine too 21.28.26 # so 21.28.39 # where's the debug -> hard disk in the source? ;) 21.28.43 # some use the Fujitsu drive or even the early Toshiba drives 21.28.50 # they do? 21.28.52 # hm 21.28.53 # yea 21.29.03 # Early Archo's used the unreliable Toshiba drive 21.29.07 # heh 21.29.13 # unreliable? 21.29.24 # so they switched to the more reliable Hitachi and Fujisu drives 21.30.54 # cool 21.31.00 # so i have a good drive :) 21.31.08 # what was bad about the toshiba's? 21.32.09 # had a habit of freezing and skipping 21.32.13 # during song playback 21.32.30 # bad 21.32.50 # yea 21.36.26 # hmm... i don't think i'm gonna change something in the hard disk stuff 21.36.35 # i cant see where to change something 21.37.46 # yea 21.37.46 Quit kaboofa ("leaving") 21.38.54 Join kaboofa [0] (~kaboofa@pcp03462569pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net) 21.39.04 Part kaboofa 21.39.30 Join kaboofa [0] (~kaboofa@pcp03462569pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net) 21.42.51 # sent message to the rockbox mailing list :) 21.43.20 Quit AciD (SendQ exceeded) 21.43.45 Quit zeekoe ("Bezig met verlaten") 21.44.47 Join zeekoe [0] (~mother@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 21.44.50 # hm 21.44.56 # har har 21.45.02 # /exit doesn't do what i expected 21.45.05 # ich bin apfel 21.45.05 # ..:P 21.45.09 # ich bin peer 21.45.12 # do you mean /quit ? 21.45.17 # ich liebe apfels! 21.45.19 # mmmm 21.45.23 Quit Smooth ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 21.45.24 # i did /exit in #rockboxtrivia 21.45.38 # it closed the connection and i was unjoined from everything 21.45.40 # I want to play video games 21.45.45 # well 21.45.48 # download them 21.45.49 # har har 21.45.53 # (polish humor) 21.46.00 # Har har har, polish humor. 21.46.01 # haha 21.46.01 # nice 21.46.03 # ^5 21.46.13 # what's ^5? 21.47.21 # high five 21.47.28 # something stupid american people do 21.47.30 # now i play video game. 21.48.52 # i know high five 21.48.58 # just dunno the abbreviation 21.49.04 # what video game? 21.49.08 # rockblox? 21.49.46 # drakengurd 21.49.52 # *drakengard 21.50.25 # hmm 21.50.28 # dunno about that 21.50.41 Nick zeekoe is now known as zeekoe|drinkin (~mother@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 21.50.50 Nick zeekoe|drinkin is now known as zeekoe|drinking (~mother@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 21.50.58 # cya 22.17.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.29.14 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@c25025a.hud.bostream.se) 22.36.26 Join Smooth [0] (909510b8@ACB91CE8.ipt.aol.com) 22.36.34 # Hello 22.36.36 # hi zeekoe 22.37.23 # i think that would be a great feature, an option to kill the status bar in the WPS and show it in the file browser 22.37.50 # what does everyone else think? 22.44.21 # i eat babies. 22.44.58 # i wonder what mas the Gmini 220 uses 22.45.36 # the same as the recorder, iirc 22.46.03 # yea but the Gmini can play WMA and WAV, which the existing recorders can't 22.46.09 # aha 22.46.20 # does it even use a MAS then? 22.47.04 # it might 22.47.09 # maybe just a different one 22.48.12 # or even it may use a Strongarm processor 22.51.32 # on the flashed boxes is there a way to make the charging instantaneous when plugging the charger in like the archos fw? 22.52.24 # no. there is currently a bug in the charging algorithm that makes rockbox wait 1 cycle before charging 22.52.45 # ok 22.53.09 # ive found a way to "trick" the archos on the flashed boxes to charge via the Archos fw if the batteries are stone-dead 22.53.31 # yup, f1 is the work-around 22.53.49 # yea, you hit f1+on, then quickly stick the charger in before the screen appears 22.54.18 # you can hold f1 and plug in the charger 22.54.24 # yea 22.54.34 # no on pressing involved 22.54.39 # I wondered if you can "de-flash" the box if required 22.54.55 # assuming you backed up your original flash content 22.55.01 # just wondered 22.55.16 # but why would you do that?? 22.55.39 # in case u needed to fix the archos under warrenty 22.57.27 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9E34BF3.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.58.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> Smooth: yes, you can un.flash, see the documentation. 23.00.08 # ok 23.00.12 # ill check it out 23.01.02 # Seems like all the new Archos devices have their fw on a flash chip rather than the HD 23.01.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> they all have a firmware, yes 23.01.50 # except one that isn't flashable 23.01.52 # the uh 23.01.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> (have to, who should read the disk?) 23.01.58 # generic archos one 23.02.06 # wait 23.02.07 # fuck 23.02.10 # disregard all my text 23.02.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> ok 23.02.28 Quit zeekoe|drinking (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.03.11 # what does Screendump do in Debug? 23.03.52 Join BC [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 23.04.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> it creates a screen dump bmp each time you plug USB 23.05.03 # Anyone interested in a keypad driver bug? 23.05.46 # ok 23.05.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> patch tracker is... 23.06.35 # it was just an informal thing 23.07.03 # Smooth, a new face ...hi 23.07.07 # ive enabled screendump wheres the bmps? 23.07.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> plug the usb where you want to create one 23.08.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> then it doesn't go into USB mode, but creates a file on disk. 23.08.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> This is a developer feature, for documentation. 23.08.41 # ok 23.08.46 # the files are on the root of the HD? 23.08.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> guess so, dunno 23.09.20 # its alright i can see them 23.09.44 # very very clever 23.09.46 # :) 23.10.39 Quit Smooth ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 23.13.47 Join lodesi [0] (~laurent@f02v-5-170.d3.club-internet.fr) 23.13.58 # hi 23.14.03 # hi 23.14.50 # does anyone know the size limitation for a plugin in rockbox? 23.14.55 # 32k 23.15.01 # 32768bytes 23.15.41 # i'm not talking about the size of the buffer we use from a plugin 23.15.48 # the latest gcc compiler is pretty good if you are getting close - gave me about 8% size reduction 23.15.49 # but about the plugin itself :) 23.15.56 # lodesi: 32k 23.16.24 # and the clock.rock ? 23.16.39 # 75408 byte 23.16.48 # that'll be the sim build at a guess? 23.17.00 # mh.. yes 23.17.08 # the sim has no limit 23.17.48 # it wouldn't make sense anyway 23.17.49 # bagder: that's a good news 23.18.23 # i thaught it could be my problem since my plugin is about 200k 23.18.58 # do a make in the target dir and look at the size of the .rock 23.19.10 # if you are using my devkit, "dir" will help there 23.19.23 # (does ls -l) 23.19.47 # bc: i did 'ls -l' 23.20.25 # i have dir.sh for bash and ls.bat for dos - lol 23.21.08 # well, but i'm not using your devkit :) 23.21.35 # hee hee 23.22.11 # so if the size doesn't matter ;), my problem are with the directory fonction 23.22.40 # size will matter when you do a target build 23.23.00 # no problem to compile, but i get segfault on them (unresolved symbols...) 23.23.06 # ah 23.23.13 # bc: size will matter later :) 23.24.41 # so do you have any idea? 23.25.30 # does it segfault in compile or execution? 23.25.41 # execution 23.25.44 # unresolved symbols? 23.25.48 # yes 23.25.53 # then you're using functions rockbox doesn't provide 23.26.08 # but they are in the plugin api 23.26.13 # i dont understand how you could get that error at execution 23.26.27 # lodesi: then access them with rb->XXXX() style 23.26.30 # i neither understand :) 23.26.38 # then you don't get unresolved symbols 23.26.54 # where does the error display? 23.27.03 # lodesi: you're using linux, don't you? 23.27.26 # bagder:yes 23.27.40 # yes with the rb-> i have compilation problems 23.27.54 # then sort them out 23.28.04 # structure has no member named `MYDIR' 23.28.18 # are you writing libs? 23.28.28 # at the declaration of a rb->DIR type variable 23.28.38 # bc: trying to port sarien 23.29.01 # lodesi: are you writing main/plugin/lib code? 23.29.10 # plugin 23.29.34 # okay, cos that is one of the long-standing bugs with lib development 23.29.38 # with latest cvs source of course :) 23.30.00 Quit mecraw__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 23.30.28 # test 23.30.38 Join wiler [0] (wiler@adsl-68-92-121-250.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) 23.30.47 # lodesi: but you can build all the existing plugins? 23.30.56 # so why is DIR a problem in your? 23.31.38 # badger: yes but no plugin already use dir fonctions 23.31.48 # i plan on upgrading the drive in my recorder are the instructions still appropriate for that as well? 23.33.07 # lodesi: maybe you have hit the same problem as the libplugin code - take a look at my mail "more libplugin blues" I wouldn't wonder if the work-around may help you? 23.34.20 # ok, I understand the problem now 23.36.42 # there's a somewhat silly work-around possible 23.36.52 # like this: dir = (rb->opendir)("/"); 23.37.57 # bagder:still the same error 23.38.03 # what error? 23.38.20 # structure has no member named 'MYDIR' 23.38.30 # on what line? 23.38.46 # on line 2609 from my plugin :) 23.38.52 # show me the line 23.39.05 # (rb->DIR) *d; 23.39.17 # uh? 23.39.26 # what'd that supposed to do? 23.39.30 # what's 23.39.40 # it's declaration , no? 23.39.54 # no, it should be just "DIR *d" 23.41.20 # compilation is ok now 23.41.35 # but i still ahve: 23.41.37 # undefined symbol: sim_opendir 23.42.32 # during the execution 23.43.24 # that function is in uisimulator/common/io.c 23.43.37 Quit BC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.50.30 # bagder:ok, thanks, i'll continue to search 23.50.43 # bye 23.50.50 Quit lodesi ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10") 23.56.06 Join BC [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 23.58.31 Quit wiler ("BitchX: the un-Cola")