--- Log for 25.07.104 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 6 days and 7 hours ago 00.00.17 # gillette mach3 00.00.18 # :/ 00.00.22 # * 00.00.34 # i use it once a year 00.00.36 # lol 00.00.54 # get an epilator 00.00.59 # they remove the hair at the root 00.00.59 # lol 00.01.00 # :) 00.01.46 # "Away, in the shower, brb" 00.01.52 # "lol" 00.01.59 # You wander why the Eilady company went bankrupt. 00.02.08 # \Epilady 00.03.16 # j 00.03.30 # je vais dodo ^^ 00.05.02 Part tpelliott 00.09.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.09.49 Quit Pano-Manix6 ("(i was using Mikata-script 1.2 <<---http://www.mikata-manga.fr.st--->>)") 00.13.53 # bbk 00.13.54 # bbl* 00.14.00 Quit midk ("Leaving") 00.14.21 Quit Bagder ("Leaving") 00.22.24 # liiiiiiinus 00.22.25 # :) 00.22.36 # did some testing with recording again 00.22.41 # fresh batteries 00.22.53 # mic recording worked one time 00.23.19 # line never worked, not even using a radio as input 00.23.43 # all files that didnt work are reported to have different playing lengths in winamp 00.23.47 # but they're all 5.49 kb 00.24.25 # that is, 5626 bytes 00.24.50 # anyone else having troubles to record using rombox? 00.25.11 # i haven't tried 00.27.32 # just tried recording when ROLO'ed into the normal rockbox 00.28.40 # hmm 00.28.58 # signal-to-noise is about 1:10 (signal=1, noise=10) 00.29.02 # but it does recording 00.29.12 # i think rombox broke recording somehow 00.30.23 Quit Smooth ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/") 00.30.54 # it's cvs-21 july btw 00.31.27 Part Saloky1 00.31.44 # and while recording the size stuck at '30' 00.32.06 Nick zeekoe is now known as zeekoe|toothbrsh (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 00.34.01 # Linus - how easy would be to add a "terminate_the_plugin_now" function? 00.34.48 # why? 00.35.17 # it's a real pain to have "if usb-connected return up a level" everywhere 00.35.47 # I'd love to have my GetKey routine take care of it all 00.35.47 # it's not easy at all 00.36.02 # the plugin runs in the main thread 00.36.12 # oh! bugger 00.36.32 # you could try setjmp(), but i doubt it would work 00.36.47 # could we not just clean the stack ot a known point and return? 00.37.03 # setjmp()/longjmp() 00.37.23 # wouldn't that leave a big horrible mess on the stack? 00.37.43 # afaik, it saves the stack pointer too 00.41.06 # lol - any ideas how to use it? 00.43.00 # look here: http://publications.gbdirect.co.uk/c_book/chapter9/nonlocal_jumps.html 00.43.18 # thanks 00.46.15 # (what a well wiiten doc) 00.46.45 Nick zeekoe|toothbrsh is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 00.47.03 Quit gromit`` ("Client exiting") 00.48.05 # * zeekoe >bed 00.48.08 # google is my friend 00.48.17 # nite zeekoe 00.48.20 # my precious :) 00.48.22 # nite 00.48.24 # nite dude 00.48.33 # is this some standard C thing that I have just never used before? 00.48.38 # yes 00.48.56 # happy coding :-P 00.49.03 # zeekoe: always 00.49.04 # AHA! ...thought it was a Rockbox invention at first 00.49.10 Quit zeekoe ("Quit...") 00.49.30 # however, i'm not sure it will work in a plugin 00.50.04 # because they are not linked with the C library 00.50.49 # one way to find out ...do you suspect it may fail to compile or fail to work properly? 00.51.01 # fail to compile 00.51.11 # (or link, rather) 00.51.13 # ... 00.51.19 # (yes, indeed) 00.51.46 # * BC|coding loads helloworld.c 00.54.04 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 01.01.35 Nick BC|coding is now known as bc|bbs (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 01.01.35 DBUG Enqueued KICK bc|bbs 01.09.52 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@81-86-122-158.dsl.pipex.com) 01.09.52 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 01.10.19 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@81-86-122-158.dsl.pipex.com) 01.11.18 # hey Guest 01.11.29 # "jirc" 01.11.44 Nick bc|bbs is now known as bc|busy (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 01.11.44 DBUG Enqueued KICK bc|busy 01.14.46 # hi all 01.16.29 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 01.17.50 # hi guest 01.17.59 # a little late, bc./ 01.22.16 # LinusN: hmmm, well off to a bad start ...we have no setjmp.h 01.22.23 # :-) 01.24.37 # can anyone tell me how to convert flash video files ? I have a bunch of videos from campchaos.net and would like to convert them to use on my rockbox...thanks 01.25.13 # Threshold: again? 01.26.03 # LinusN: ok, your guess is correct, setjmp.s is not linked in with plugins 01.26.19 # heh, I never got an answer 01.26.48 # Threshold: did you find a flash to avi converter? 01.27.11 # I' 01.27.16 # I'll look now 01.28.05 # LinusN: having been there today, do you know how I can update the makefile? 01.28.29 # update the makefile? 01.28.34 # to link setjmp 01.29.15 # try adding -lc to the linker command 01.29.23 # or -lgcc, i don't remember 01.29.37 # /apps/plugins/makefile ? 01.29.53 # yes 01.30.05 # thanks 01.30.22 # did you find setjmp.h? 01.30.48 # no, although I just thought, I only checked the rockbox-devel dir 01.32.39 # it's converting them to bmpfiles 01.33.27 # when i think of it, setjmp() is probably a libc function, and we don't have libc 01.34.05 # according to c docs, 'include 01.34.38 # Threshold: i see tons of flash to avi converters when i search with google 01.34.46 # ok, now I feel thick, which line specifies the link command? 01.34.57 # bc|busy: i think you can stop looking 01.35.23 # setjmp is path of the libc library, and we don't have it 01.35.26 # part 01.35.45 # you'll have to cook your own 01.35.48 # what is setjmp.S then? 01.35.54 # where is it? 01.36.15 # GDB 01.36.26 # aaaah 01.36.32 # $Id: setjmp.S,v 1.1 2003/05/17 00:31:50 linusnielsen Exp $ 01.37.25 # that was a loooooong time ago 01.37.27 # that's definitely mips code 01.37.48 # mips? why? 01.38.13 # sorry, i retract that, i just hallucinated a third pram on each line 01.38.45 # ok, we have setjmp, but not in the rockbox firmware 01.38.46 # saw r1, r2, r3 and flashed back to my mips days 01.39.59 # so, is the setjmp() in GDB of no use? 01.40.21 # it's used in the gdb stub 01.40.42 # but I can link it in to the plugin surely? 01.40.46 # but the gdb stub is standalone 01.41.21 # yes, you can copy the file and compile it in the plugin library 01.41.39 # but the current makefile currently doesn't build .S files 01.42.25 # hmmm, I'm sure I'm smart enough to find a suitable line in another makefile and steal it (the way I've always written makefiles - lol) 01.43.25 # also, i'm not sure how the simulators should deal with this 01.43.47 # oh! now that is a mighty fine point! 01.44.15 # #ifdef sim in the lib and redirect the setjmp to the pc lib 01.44.25 # of course 01.44.44 # i'll se how the sim can do it... 01.51.14 # (kettle) brb 01.53.21 # tried it in the x11 simulator 01.53.39 # Segmentation fault 01.53.41 # :-) 01.54.17 # oops 01.55.16 # better leave that idea... :-) 01.56.08 # tell me it has not defeated you! ;) 01.58.01 # well, i don't have much personal interest in it :-) 01.59.01 # I think I may also move it to the bottom of the pile - after all how often will you connect the USB while playing a game 01.59.15 # exactly 01.59.50 # ...lol ...and if some anal retentive wants to complain ...he can code it :) 02.01.28 # just googled a little more 02.01.47 # setjmp()/longjmp() doesn't work in shared libraries 02.02.05 # and plugins are libraries in the x11 sim 02.02.27 # that would definitely explain the segmentation fault 02.02.35 # probably :-) 02.03.10 # I guess terminating a library is fairly easy though 02.04.47 # "terminate a library"? 02.04.57 # a library is just code 02.06.05 # maybe we are referring to different lib structures 02.06.11 # hehe, i just compiled rockbox on my OS X machine 02.06.12 # i dont know the x11 sim at all 02.06.24 # OS X - sweet OS 02.06.36 # i think you have the same problem everywhere 02.06.37 Join gromit`` [0] (~gromit@w00t.adsl.nerim.net) 02.07.00 # you are running the code inside the library, so how are you supposed to "termnate it"? 02.07.57 # it's not like it's running in a separate thread 02.08.26 # depends how its executed 02.08.40 # maybe it is dynamically linked? 02.08.59 # if so, the dynamic linker can offer the finctionality 02.09.15 # yes, but what about the stack? 02.09.32 # restore it to it's last known state 02.09.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.09.41 # with what? setjmp()? 02.09.43 # :-) 02.09.46 # lol 02.10.22 # yes, perhaps the implementation required would not meet the limitations required to be called setjmp() 02.10.33 # :-) 02.10.40 # setjmp_actuallyworks() 02.10.45 # :) 02.11.01 # let's rename the old function 02.11.04 # shitjmp() 02.11.08 # lol 02.11.23 # sleep time 02.11.33 # cu around, d00d 02.11.34 # sleep well dear friend 02.11.44 Part LinusN 02.16.03 # nite guys 02.16.17 Part bc|busy 02.19.13 Quit Doehni_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.26.40 # brb 02.26.44 Quit midk ("Leaving") 02.36.20 Quit gromit`` (Remote closed the connection) 02.40.11 Join gromit`` [0] (~gromit@w00t.adsl.nerim.net) 02.40.12 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 03.07.44 Quit midk ("Leaving") 03.29.32 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.31.26 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@adsl-10-228-157.mia.bellsouth.net) 03.32.57 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 03.32.58 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 03.39.23 Quit midk ("Leaving") 03.45.17 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 03.59.12 Quit midk ("Leaving") 03.59.12 Join top_bloke [0] (~ekolb_pot@66-2-167-54-chi-02.cvx.algx.net) 04.04.02 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 04.04.02 Quit scott666 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.09.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.12.28 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 04.52.44 Quit top_bloke ("The mind is a terrible thing to taste.") 05.08.21 Join NibbIer [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 05.36.06 Quit AciD ("http://frbattle.free.fr/mixs/samedi%2012%20juillet%2013-14%20heures%20angle%20mort/AciD%20vs%20Formax%20-%20Live@prun'%20radi) 05.36.06 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.08.45 Join crash3m [0] (beefsalad@crash3m.cloaked) 06.09.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.09.04 Join NibbIer [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 07.17.42 Part crash3m ("Unf Unf Unf") 07.20.03 Part scott666_ 07.28.05 Join j3fk9vbiv [0] (GuitarDude@adsl-68-255-27-146.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 07.28.31 # can anyone help me with my jukebox studio 10? 07.29.54 # possibly 07.30.03 # first you've got to state the problem.. :) 07.30.27 # ok well i cant get my comp to recognize it and add it as a drive 07.30.32 # so that i can transfer files 07.30.39 # i have winXP 07.30.49 # did you install the drivers? 07.31.06 # not sure how..my friend got it off eBay and it just came with the player and usb cable 07.31.59 # http://archos.com/download/drivers/Archos_USB_Drivers_04062004.zip 07.32.28 # ok i extracted that to a folder on my desktop called "driver" 07.32.56 # correct 07.33.02 # now you have to tell windows to install the driver. 07.33.19 # hold the windows key on your keyboard and press Pause/Break to open system properties 07.33.27 # click the hardware tab, choose device manager 07.33.32 # make sure it's plugged in and in usb mode 07.33.43 # it should appear as an unknown device 07.34.03 # double click it, and choose update driver or install driver (may have to click "driver" tab first) 07.34.17 # press next, point it to the "driver" folder and press next again. 07.34.23 # then finish when it finishes. 07.34.42 # k 07.34.49 # installing 07.35.13 # ok says its done 07.35.21 # ..finish. 07.35.21 # u lovely person 07.35.24 # and it should work 07.35.27 # yes 07.35.34 # thanks so much dude 07.35.35 # u rock 07.35.37 # you may hug me, in a non-homosexual way 07.35.39 # :) 07.35.41 # definitely 07.35.50 # have fun 07.35.51 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 10 minutes and 9 seconds at the last flood 07.35.51 # * j3fk9vbiv slaps midk around a bit with a large trout 07.35.54 # :-D thanks 07.35.56 Quit j3fk9vbiv () 07.36.01 # WTF :[ 07.36.02 # :D 07.46.08 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208-251-255-120.res.evv.cable.sigecom.net) 07.52.23 Part tpelliott 08.06.32 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@adsl-10-228-157.mia.bellsouth.net) 08.07.32 # Does anyone have the "[ 698941 ] Add current playing track to 1 of 10 files" plugin by "David L. Reis - bu88a1" working? All I get is "incompatible version" when I try it. 08.08.58 # you need the corresponding build 08.09.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.12.21 # I kindof guessed that, it seems like the last build that it worked on was on 8-19-03. 08.12.44 # sounds good 08.13.08 # There was a binary available, but it was deleted on 12-10-03 for some reason. 08.13.11 # Any ideas???? 08.13.43 # i could compile it against current cvs in a small bit 08.16.56 # That would be great! I just started thinking about getting a development environment up and running, but it's non-trivial... 08.18.18 # in windows it's fairly easy with bc's devkit 08.19.34 # I was starting with Eric Lassauge's stuff (http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment) 08.20.50 # brb 08.21.00 Quit midk ("Leaving") 08.21.24 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 08.21.35 # Any idea why the "add track to playlist 1-10" option hasn't been added into the regular builds? Seems like a good feature, could be used to compile ratings lists like the (pardon the reference) iPod... 08.22.59 # i don't really see how it could be used to compile ratings lists.. 08.23.35 # I really want to develop a way to categorize music on the fly. I listen to lots of stuff that I d/l 08.24.09 # you can make playlists on the fly.. not good enough? 08.25.19 # I was thinking that I could have say 5 lists corresponding to 1 star to 5 stars. I could then write a quick app on the PC that would grab the playlists and update the ID3 tags of the MP3 files. 08.25.31 # ahhh 08.26.46 # I'd also have a list that I could use to flag files that need to be recatagorized by genre... nothing like listening to hard rock and have some Enya pop up (or worse yet, vice-versa). Both are good, but each has it's time and place... 08.27.42 # brb 08.27.44 Quit midk ("Leaving") 08.28.10 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 08.34.58 # I was thinking that it might be possible to add a function to the F2 key for rating and then use the other buttons to quickly add it. For instance, I could assign 1 star through 5 stars to the left, up, right, down, and play buttons. You'd press F2, up, and then one of the nav buttons to assign a rating. Just one idea--- I want to review the work being done in the user interface proposal before I commit to a design. 08.36.19 # that sounds interesting 08.36.20 # In the meantime, I figured that David's playlists would be a reasonable interim approach. 08.36.21 # and simple. 08.36.47 # case BUTTON_UP: [add to /.rockbox/one-star.m3u]; 08.40.20 # Yep. You like the idea? 08.40.57 # i think the button scheme sounds iffy, but otherwise yeah 08.43.22 # hm. problems making rockbox.. maybe raincheck? come back tomorrow? 08.45.15 # I can do that - just in case, my email address is bbqpanther at yahoo dot com - I really appreciate the help! 08.45.42 # no problem.. actually i will try some more tonight 08.46.45 # Thanks. See what I mean - a bit non-trivial !!! 08.47.12 # hmm? 08.47.58 # I'll check back in a little while - I'm switching back and forth beween machines. If I lose you, have a good night - talk to you soon. 08.48.23 # nite then 08.52.48 # reboot, brb. 08.52.49 Quit midk ("Leaving") 09.07.12 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 09.07.34 # Guest, still around? 09.12.05 # Yep, still here 09.12.16 # http://www.freewebs.com/midky/add_track.rock 09.12.23 # compiled against today's 7-25-04 cvs. 09.12.30 # I take it the PC survived the reboot! 09.12.40 # yes, i had to head back into windows 09.16.59 # Works like a charm! 09.17.05 # THANKS!!! 09.17.16 # How the heck did you do that so fast?!!!! 09.23.49 # i just compiled ot 09.23.59 # but npo 09.24.00 # Have you ever seen what the "[ 917264 ] Allow alternate destination in favorites.rock" plugin does? it seem like that would be the ideal companion, but I've never found a reference to the "user defined F2 menu" he speaks of. 09.24.01 # np* 09.24.33 # i dunno, read the description.. 09.24.44 # ad for the menu, that was a patch at one point, but never got far (iirc) 09.24.56 # it was sort of like a wps for the f2 screen 09.25.34 # Thanks much - without a dev environment setup, getting the thing compiled would have been a bunch of work. Gotta work on getting the build environment running. 09.25.50 # no problem. 09.26.53 # Think I'm going to have to purse doing at least the F2-up to call the add_track plugin. Sound like it should be too hard once I've got the environment going. 09.27.22 # that would actually only require 3 lines of code in the right space :) 09.27.38 # ohh 09.27.43 # but .. displaying text for it etc 09.27.47 # probably more like 25 09.33.59 # Seems like a worthwhile task. Could probably make it read from a config file to provide a basic user-configurable button or two. Config could be like "F2=add_track\nF3=clock". It would make use of the unused up buttons on each of the F2/F3 screens. I know... feature creep. For now, I'll be happy to get the add_track hardcoded into the F2 button with or without text !!!! 09.35.25 # Guest, it wouldn't be considered - the UP buttons aren't used in Fx screens for a reason 09.35.45 # Why's that? 09.36.10 # you can't hold Fx and at the same time press up - nothing will happen 09.36.23 # however if you hold Fx and press down or left or right the changes will take effect at that time 09.36.29 # hardware issue 09.37.00 # imagine F1, F2, F3 and UP as Group A. Left, Right, Play, Down, On, and Off are Group B 09.37.12 # you can't use any key from group A in tandem with group B 09.38.55 # with any key from group B* 09.39.39 # OK, such is life. Good to know. But I was actually thinking multiple keystrokes, just add the new option to the F2 where left=shuffle, right=repeat, and down-show files 09.40.00 # F2 then up would be add_track 09.41.23 # right. but it wouldn't be considered because it's inconsistent and some people like to hold Fx while tapping the arrow keys - this wouldn't work. 09.41.31 # but i'm not positive about it not being considered.. 09.47.54 # I'm open to suggestions. I like the concept of some user-defined buttons but I'm not particularly attached to any specific method of doing it. Like I said before, I want to review the work that's being done on the new interface before suggesting any general solution. For me, I'm just looking for a quick fix to ease what would become a case of iPod envy. 09.48.19 # Nothing, nothing beats having open source like Rockbox. 09.48.26 # f2, play -> add_track.rock, maybe? 09.48.52 # i once did a patch that utilized play in the f2/f3 screens... you can have a look at it 09.48.58 # i then did an f2 redesign 09.49.32 # Can't wait to show my office mate (and his iPod) how quickly the Rockbox community addressed a feature request. See if he can get Apple to do that!!! 09.50.00 # I'd really like to see the stuff you did - where is it? 09.50.56 # haha 09.50.59 # well my clock is already in cvs 09.51.17 # i did some work on the fm screen a while back 09.51.25 # and the rest is at the patches page.. 09.52.11 # "Keyboard makeover", "Utilize "PLAY" in F2/F3 quick-screens.", and "Improved F2 Screen" 09.52.17 # i also did quite a bit of work on the vu meter. 09.52.19 # Are you Zakk? 09.53.22 # Yep. Good guess on my part! 09.54.13 # yes i am. 09.54.15 # I'm up against the same problem, until I get my dev environment built, I can't play with patches and stuff. Gotta learn how to fish... 09.55.06 # yeah. and people like me never update their patches so you have to do it manually really 09.55.11 # I've played with the clock since it's in the standard build - really nice. 09.55.17 # thanks 09.55.24 # i'm soon merging a fuzzy clock mode. 09.55.40 # ie "Ten past five", or "Quarter 'til eight" 09.56.22 # Fuzzy clock - oh, I thougt that was one that said "lunchtime" all morning and "time to go home" all afternoon :) 09.57.19 # haha! :) 09.57.56 # i will include a fuzziness setting, though. very fuzzy will just say, "x o'clock" and "half past x" 09.58.05 # err 09.58.10 # most fuzzy will say that 09.58.29 # very fuzzy will be,, o'clock, quarter after, half past, quarter 'til 09.58.55 # and somewhat fuzzy will be every five minutes 09.59.12 # o'clock, five past, ten past, quarter after, twenty past.. etc. 09.59.47 # a custom fuzzy mode actually sounds great. 09.59.47 # Kinda kool - will it speak? 09.59.58 # nope, sorry 10.00.06 # Aw.... 10.00.07 # you could write a file, ie fuzzymode.txt.. 10.00.20 # and use the format XX:XX "TEXT" 10.00.35 # so... ie: 12:15 "Lunch time!" 10.00.57 # 15:00 "Time to go home" 10.01.16 # that'll take some work.. but it sounds nifty 10.01.16 # Could be like a DJ - wait for the current song to end, then annouce "It's a quarter past two and you're listening to AJB radio, where you really do get to pick the music" 10.01.37 # more like "Quarter past 2, listening to AJB, pick music" 10.01.40 # it's all we have room for :) 10.01.49 # 'nuff. 10.02.27 # "Quarter past 2, Zakk says hi" 10.02.34 # :] 10.02.37 # sounds fun! 10.02.40 # but.. no. 10.06.44 # You really should get your patches put into the standard build - they sound really good. Can't look at them 'cause your don't keep your compiles up to date, though... ;) 10.07.04 # i could code them a lot better now, and in a few minutes 10.09.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.12.19 # Isn't it amazing how you can always look back at what you've done and what you've learned from it? Everything always gets easier and you learn even better ways of doing them. 10.12.46 # definitely 10.12.55 # Of course, not wasting time on silly things like maintaining updates helps too. ;) 10.12.59 # i recall when i had slow clock drawing problems because all my code was in this for loop 10.13.07 # haha 10.13.22 # Ta dum.. 10.13.40 # and when the clock wouldn't update right.. because i wasn't constantly updating the time 10.14.07 # You fixed it, obviously.... 10.14.09 # and when there were trails behind the hands because i had no idea wtf "lcd_clear_display()" was 10.14.35 # I would have thought that would have produced flicker, though 10.14.57 # nope.. 10.15.06 # i've learned it's quite efficient 10.15.31 # i call it.. 10 times a second iirc 10.15.36 # as well as draw and update 10.17.45 # Not bad. The AJB is a good piece of H/W and the Rockbox team has really done a good job. 10.18.17 # Can't think of many consumer products other than TiVo that have had similar success. 10.20.43 # similar success as in? 10.25.09 # Solid user community that has produced software that exceeds what the manufacturer anticipated for the product. TiVo didn't replace the s/w, just augmented it, but to me the concept's similar. I bought both products only because of the features provided by the user community. The stock products just didn't cut it. 10.25.40 # ah, yeah.. i wasn't aware there was anything special for the tivo 10.26.17 # well the tivo runs linux to start with 10.26.21 # so it's a good canidate for hax0ring 10.26.39 # ah, nice! 10.27.49 # reboot, brb. 10.27.50 Quit midk ("Leaving") 10.42.20 # You back? 10.43.22 # Well, I'm east coast, almost 5am - time for bed. 10.43.44 # Thanks for the help - I'll stop back here tomorrow night - see if I can catch ya. 11.04.06 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 11.23.37 Quit Guest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.41.45 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.03.16 Join zeekoe [0] (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 12.05.33 # 12.09.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.15.48 Join Doehni_ [0] (~Doensen@177.158-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) 12.20.34 # zeeky 12.21.11 # midk 12.21.25 # * zeekoe going to make soup now 12.21.29 # YAY 12.21.32 # cya later 12.21.32 # TASTELESS WATER 12.21.34 # YAY 12.21.35 # :P 12.21.35 # later. 12.21.38 # no 12.21.40 # tasteful water 12.21.45 # uh 12.21.46 # water 12.21.47 # wtf 12.21.49 Nick zeekoe is now known as zeekoe|soup (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 12.21.50 # die water 12.21.59 # zeekoe|tastelessfuckingwater sounds better to me 12.33.33 Join Pano-Manix6 [0] (~biroute@dyn-83-155-124-215.ppp.tiscali.fr) 12.33.33 Quit Pano-Manix6 (Client Quit) 12.36.50 Join uski [0] (~uski@gandalf.digital-network.org) 12.37.37 # udky 12.37.39 # er 12.37.40 # usky* 12.38.08 # yea 12.38.10 # ;) 12.38.12 # hi 12.39.13 # yo. :] 12.39.31 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a227.wi.tds.net) 12.39.31 # waza ? ;) 12.39.53 Part Strath 12.57.59 Nick midk is now known as midk|teh-bed (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 12.58.04 # good nitey. 13.21.52 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD95121FE.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.22.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi uski 13.26.05 Join NibbIer [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.28.02 Join hermes [0] (~ju@82.67.68.29) 13.30.11 # hi [IDC]Dragon 13.43.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> sorry, later 13.43.27 # <[IDC]Dragon> i wanted to ask about your flash 13.43.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> but later 13.43.34 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 14.00.15 # die, zeekoe|soup 14.00.23 Nick zeekoe|soup is now known as midk (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 14.00.26 # whoops 14.00.27 # WTF 14.00.30 Nick midk is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 14.00.31 # no. 14.01.00 # man, it's 5 AM, go to sleep 14.01.08 # eh. got to play quake 3 some more 14.01.17 # :P 14.03.17 Join bc|busy [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 14.03.34 # bcbc 14.04.22 # hey 14.05.02 # nite all then. 14.05.13 Nick bc|busy is now known as bc|coding (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 14.05.15 # nite 14.05.30 # * midk|teh-bed is away: sleep 14.09.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.14.29 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD95121FE.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.15.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi again uski 14.16.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> better time now 14.16.40 # yea 14.16.46 # well, it still does not work 14.17.02 # and i don't think it would be a good idea to try replacing the flash chip again (it would kill the pcb i think) 14.17.11 # the problem is somewhere else but i can't find it 14.18.19 # uski: you replaced the flash and now your unit doesn't work anymore? 14.18.34 # zeekoe, right 14.19.07 # bad 14.19.12 # it's like the databus of the �C is fucked up, or sth like that 14.19.14 # really ? ;) 14.19.19 # yeah 14.19.40 # can you unfuck it down again, you think? 14.20.11 # no idea 14.20.21 #