--- Log for 30.07.104 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 day and 21 hours ago 00.02.44 # amiconn: how's the mod? 00.03.14 # zeekoe: Still soldering (these 0805 smds are damn small beasts) 00.03.20 # :P 00.03.38 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 00.04.16 # smaller than this one? i made this: http://home.student.utwente.nl/r.teune/micpreamp.jpg 00.04.17 # :P 00.04.53 # whoops, you can forget the "i made this", copied a bit too much from the logs (it is true though) 00.07.23 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA9FB.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.08.31 # Quite a bit smaller. That mic preamp seems to be made mostly of conventional parts (except the chip) 00.08.41 # yep 00.08.54 # Unfortunately I broke the solder pads of one of the leds :( 00.09.01 # that's really bad 00.09.19 # if it's so small, can you fix it? 00.09.24 # So I have to glue it into place, and wire it to the contacts 00.09.47 # ok 00.09.58 # (I have to wire anyway, since I have to put each of the 2 leds of either side in parallel instead of in series 00.10.37 # the white ones need higher voltage? 00.11.10 # you shouldn't be doing this kind of stuff at 00:10 am :) 00.12.45 # Yes, they need higher voltage. And no, 00:10 am is a good time to do such stuff ;-) 00.25.06 # It works!! :-)) 00.27.29 # cool 00.27.38 # you have white backlight now? 00.28.16 # and it only took you one and a half hours :P 00.29.09 # and my video is ready too 00.29.14 # after about five hours 00.29.40 # and 16 empty batteries 00.32.59 # oh boy 00.33.05 # it's even in sync 00.36.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.40.09 # http://arnold-j.bei.t-online.de/Rockbox/WhiteBacklight1.jpg and http://arnold-j.bei.t-online.de/Rockbox/WhiteBacklight2.jpg :)) 00.42.18 # nice :) 00.43.02 # the light seems to be brighter than [IDC]Dragon's 00.43.48 # This may be caused ba another backlight / ambient light brightness ratio when taking the photos 00.43.54 # s/ba/by/ 00.43.59 # yeah, brobably 00.44.52 # can you post a grayscale picture? 00.51.28 # http://amiconn.dyndns.org/WhiteBacklight3.jpg 00.52.07 # (Too bad my digicam has no macro capabilities) 00.52.41 # :) 00.52.47 # looks ghosty :) 00.53.04 # and you modded the two other leds too? 00.53.43 # I modded the 4 backlight leds only 00.55.01 # but the ready led seems white too 00.55.42 # The red led isn't active in any of my pics, it's only the backlight that shines through 00.56.39 # i guess the green led is a bit overillumanited and so it looks white 00.57.36 # Watching video is much more fun than before - I'm now able to distinguish very dark shades of gray :) 00.58.46 # cool 00.59.00 # but white leds are expensive i guess 00.59.25 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 00.59.27 # € 1.69 per led 01.00.08 # s/white leds/conrad 01.00.19 # yup 01.00.52 # I bought them at Schuricht. However, they sell 10 pieces minimum 01.01.18 # ok 01.01.28 # at my school i can order stuff from farnell 01.01.34 # So I have 6 leds left now, as I broke none (unlike I thoguht) 01.01.41 # ok 01.01.52 # so you can sell them :) 01.01.54 # s/thoguht/thought/ 01.03.59 # for school i had to solder some stuff once, varicap diodes 01.04.12 # only smd in a really small package was available 01.04.26 # i ordered 10, broke 7, and needed 2 :) 01.06.57 # haha! 01.07.00 # HAHAHA! 01.07.06 # * midk laughs wickedly 01.07.19 # mwahahaha 01.07.45 # ssh before i egg your house 01.08.04 # me? 01.08.20 # yes 01.08.23 # you 01.09.04 # ssh as in secure shell? 01.09.09 # shh. 01.09.17 # ok 01.09.23 # and what does egging a house mean? 01.09.55 # i throw raw eggs at your house 01.09.56 # it gets messy 01.10.28 # fine 01.10.36 # come here if you like 01.12.01 # have you already seen amiconn's 1337 archos mod? 01.12.08 # nope 01.12.39 # now i have :) 01.12.44 # nice!! 01.12.44 # WOW 01.13.25 # what's on the screen in #3? 01.14.38 # i asked for a grayscale picture 01.15.38 # a picture of a bus? :) 01.15.44 # no, an office 01.15.53 # ... 01.16.02 # well, it looked like an office 01.16.03 # it's a bus 01.16.10 # now i see it too 01.16.14 # midk: It's a part of an image showing a fire-brigade truck (or how that's called in English) 01.16.25 # ah 01.16.34 # zeekoe, how could you interpret that as an office? 01.16.38 # dunno 01.16.46 # you're weird/. 01.16.50 # i saw something like a chair and a bureau 01.16.57 # is bureau correct english? 01.17.09 # no, my eyes are bad 01.18.01 # i really thought of it as an office, but now i know it's a bus i can't figure how i've seen it before 01.18.30 # * midk stares at zeekoe 01.18.57 Join dstar5 [0] (Lee@ACC1395D.ipt.aol.com) 01.19.06 # my jukebox is here :) 01.19.07 # dstar5!!!! 01.19.12 # tri-vi-a! 01.19.15 # jukebox? 01.19.19 # archos 01.19.25 # archos? 01.19.25 # The original image is here: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/Feuerwehr.jpg 01.20.12 # aha! 01.20.23 # the drive in this one is REALLY quiet 01.20.39 # dstar5: what did you do to it? 01.20.59 # and it has the HD MP3 RECORDER written above the buttons, like the old blue recorders had 01.21.43 # i have HD MP3 RECORDER too 01.21.47 # but it isnt blue 01.21.50 # its blackish 01.22.18 # it is black 01.23.17 # the guy thta had it must have taken good care of it, no damage at all, and the little plastic sticker is still on the screen 01.24.04 # so... why all this excitement??? did i miss something?? 01.30.59 # did you buy a new recorder or so? 01.31.15 # on ebay 01.31.21 # ok 01.31.34 # recorder v1? 01.32.07 # yes 01.32.22 # i hope it is flashable 01.32.28 # :) 01.32.29 # never got one before? 01.32.34 # i am copying the dudes music on my HD incas ei want it 01.32.39 # then i am goign to reformat 01.32.41 # heh 01.32.42 # install rockbox 01.32.48 # and flash if i can 01.32.57 # then the long process of copying my msuic.... 01.33.13 # no i had a recorder before 01.33.45 # what is "dream weaver" 01.34.04 # he had it on the drive 01.34.15 # ok 01.34.19 # dream weaver? 01.34.25 # maybe dreamweaver 01.34.34 # that's an html editor 01.34.51 # weird 01.36.39 # ? 01.38.15 # so he didnt even format the drive before selling it..? 01.39.56 # no 01.40.10 # does not bother me... i like free msuic :) 01.40.14 # :P 01.40.18 # and it al appears to be nice quality 01.40.21 # what kind of music is on the drive? 01.40.22 # 224 kbs 01.40.25 # cool 01.40.33 # acustic mostly 01.40.38 # ok 01.41.02 # mostly live... 01.41.09 # too bad for the guy he never heard of rockbox 01.41.13 # i know 01.41.15 # lol 01.45.18 Join BlueChip [0] (~bluechip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 01.46.22 # yo BC! 01.46.37 # yo d5 :) 01.51.51 # i dont like BlueChip 01.51.52 # bye 01.51.56 # :-P 01.52.02 # byee 01.52.04 # nah, just need to sleep 01.52.14 # see you 01.52.23 # later zeeker 01.52.30 # zeek_oe_ 01.52.39 # ZYKERR!?! 01.52.43 # like manatee 01.53.02 # zeeker. 01.54.32 # die 01.54.44 # zeekoe? 02.03.53 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7F44B.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.04.52 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 02.04.53 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F44B.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.05.09 # i see amiconn has the situation under control. 02.05.18 # midk: Huh? 02.05.37 # the duplicate nicks 02.05.40 # never mind :) 02.06.01 # I just got disconnected by my provider (T-Online disconnects all users at least once per day) 02.06.22 # right. and you ghosted the other one so i said you had it under control.. 02.06.34 # Yep 02.07.25 Join Lee_ [0] (Lee@ACC69349.ipt.aol.com) 02.08.02 Quit dstar5 (Nick collision from services.) 02.08.16 Nick Lee_ is now known as dstar5 (Lee@ACC69349.ipt.aol.com) 02.08.28 # i see dstar5 has the situation under control. 02.10.35 # why does bash, uname, and this other thing always want to connect to the inter net when i start cygwin? 02.11.56 # take it you're using the full cygwin install 02.12.25 Quit zeekoe (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.12.41 # yes 02.12.45 # atm 02.12.59 # Still no one tried Rombox on a v2 ? 02.13.10 # v1, unflashable, sorry 02.17.50 # ohh no 02.18.06 # flash: M=?? D=?? 02.18.26 # dstar5: unflashable :( 02.21.40 # well.. i do have a good chip in my old board... 02.21.49 # i not sure if i would want to replace it 02.21.56 # that chip is so small 02.23.17 # You should have some experience with smd soldering if you're going to do this 02.23.41 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.23.56 # no smd soldering... 02.24.22 # Today I did the white backlight mod. It wasn't easy to solder those tiny beasts called smd leds... 02.24.52 # I even broke the soldering pads for one of the leds 02.25.13 # ill be back later 02.25.19 # time to play with my archos a bit 02.25.23 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 02.25.36 # I guess it's time to sleep now 02.25.48 # Nite all 02.25.53 # nite 02.26.11 Part amiconn 02.28.12 Quit edx () 02.29.01 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208-251-255-120.res.evv.cable.sigecom.net) 02.31.00 # is it possible to get "incompatible version" from plugins when you are using an AJZ and rocks from the same bleeding edge build? 02.31.32 # tpelliott, is it when you try to flash? 02.32.01 # It happened even when I rolo'd the AJZ 02.32.22 # right 02.32.25 # try erasing everything and unzipping your own "make zip" 02.32.28 # but when you play a ucl right? 02.33.44 # It happened when I played "rockbox.ucl" 02.34.04 # correct. i get the problem too. 02.34.15 # ah, flashing issue - forget my previous comment 02.36.35 # I have a Windows utility called "create.exe" that downloads the latest build and creates the ucl. I'm not sure who wrote it. Are you familiar with this? 02.36.55 # I think it may be out of date. 02.36.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.37.18 # it doesn't work for me. that means it's probably a problem 02.37.37 # ok. 02.37.41 # there a doc on cvs on my site which may help 02.37.51 # bc, it's a rockbox_flash problem/ 02.38.12 DBUG Enqueued KICK BlueChip 02.38.12 # 01 I have a Windows utility called "create.exe" that downloads the latest build and creates 01the ucl. 02.38.24 # cvs is likely a good solution 02.38.40 # i did get cvs 02.38.40 # just a half hour ago 02.38.40 # I have the same problem with the jpg viewer. Everything's up to date as far as I know. 02.43.31 Join zobo [0] (~erik@foxtail.org) 02.56.35 Join fifer- [0] (~Pickle@80.229.144.229) 02.57.27 # does anyone here know the debian package that contains sh-elf-gcc? 02.58.18 # the linux guys are all out at the moment, might be quicker to compile it yourself? 02.58.55 # follow the cross-compiler docs/ 02.58.57 # thats the thing, i have been on google for about 30mins looking for info on it 02.58.59 # :/ 02.59.26 # thx midk 02.59.35 # np 02.59.41 # remember the export PATH command 02.59.52 # will do :) 02.59.53 # thx 03.00.03 # np 03.00.14 # you're cooking tonight mk 03.01.28 # did i really just beat you to an answer there? ;) 03.33.05 Quit AciD ("Hiroshima 45, Tchernobyl 86, Windows 95") 03.45.42 Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 03.50.45 # bbl 03.50.49 Quit midk ("Leaving") 03.50.55 Quit fifer- (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.58.51 Part tpelliott 04.00.59 Part BlueChip 04.29.39 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.29.39 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.29.47 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 04.36.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.31 Nick AciD is now known as AciD` (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 05.05.14 Quit AciD` (".L") 05.46.55 Join dstar5 [0] (Lee@ACC49DAA.ipt.aol.com) 05.47.41 # hey scott666 05.50.37 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 05.51.15 # hey midk and dstar5 05.51.24 # yo scott 05.51.39 # futurama is fun to watch on rockbox 05.51.55 # i noticed the vu meters look bad in .8 ratio 05.51.59 # i need to fix them 05.52.16 # i would have never let it go if iknew they looked so bad 05.52.26 # thye look god in square on simulator 05.52.31 # s/god/good 05.52.38 # s/thye/they 05.52.49 # s/in/and 05.52.53 Nick scott666 is now known as scott|brb (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 05.53.47 Quit midk (Client Quit) 05.53.51 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 05.55.16 # dstar5, perhaps we should collaborate on another update.. 05.55.21 Join Treyqae [0] (~Treyqae@adsl-8-45-253.mia.bellsouth.net) 05.55.46 # remove the annoying and wastefull mini meters! 05.56.09 # ..or if you feel that putting down work is needed, we shall not 05.57.18 # they're purely cosmetic - i also included an on/off option, if you noticed 05.57.29 # they are useless 05.57.38 # i was thinking of a decay screen redesign, and perhaps an addition of a new mode or two 05.57.44 # seriously. shut up. 05.58.13 # scott|brb: dont you think mini meters are annoying and useless? 05.59.29 # they're purely cosmetic if you think that gap ther is bad, fine, i will resize the needles and all 05.59.43 # but minimeters are no good solution 05.59.54 Nick scott|brb is now known as scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 05.59.58 # dstar5, i was trying to be friendly and initiate another update.. probably with a lack of minimeters. 06.00.10 # but if you really feel you need to complain about a small feature that is easily shut off, fuck it. 06.00.14 # remove the annoying and wastefull mini meters! 06.00.14 # ..or if you feel that putting down work is needed, we shall not 06.00.20 # so let's not. 06.00.22 Part Treyqae 06.00.34 # yes, it's my work, if you do feel like putting it down that's fine, we don't have to do an update./ 06.01.00 # sorry for being rude... but still 06.01.17 # i'm quite tired of your complaints 06.01.22 # i said i did not like mini meters, but you did not discuss, and left them anyway 06.01.30 # what's your point? 06.01.34 # whoever merged em liked em 06.01.36 # that's what matters 06.02.38 # no i dont think he even loked at the code (it was [IDC]Dragin i believe btw 06.02.50 Nick scott666 is now known as scott|war3 (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 06.03.01 # doesn't matter, your update that removed the functionality wasn't merged... 06.03.03 # what does that say? 06.03.04 # also see me mail in the list: charging while on usb 06.04.37 # doesn't matter, your update that removed the functionality wasn't merged... 06.04.37 # what does that say? maybe no one has looked at them? 06.04.53 # that's fine, then why remove them if nobody cares about them? 06.04.56 # they must go unnoticed. 06.05.17 # whatever, i'm done with this conversation. 06.05.29 # ok shut up you only want mini meters in because you made them 06.05.45 # i think that's the reason YOU don't want them in - because you didn't code them 06.05.47 # dont fuck with whats there 06.05.50 # no 06.06.00 # i had no problems with anythig else you did 06.06.13 # because i didn't do much else 06.06.16 # i just asked you not to do the minis adn you would not discuss and did anyway 06.06.18 # you had a problem with my decay screen 06.06.39 # excuse me I WROTE THE DECAY SCRENN 06.06.44 # why should i care if you don't like my code? it got in, and your removal of them didn't.. so.. 06.06.48 # s/SCRENN/SCREEN 06.06.51 # i wrote the decay screen, you updated it 06.07.02 # no 06.07.07 # i wrote it 06.07.10 # code stealer. 06.15.01 Join NibbIer [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 06.15.02 Quit dstar5 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.37.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.09.17 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.09.18 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.10.17 # hey LinusN 07.10.28 # i think tonight i'll get breakout fixed up 07.15.03 # wow 07.45.50 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@207-237-224-177.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 08.03.23 Quit scott|war3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.19.05 Join NibbIer [0] (~nibbler@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 08.33.28 Join CourtesyFlush [0] (~lsktst@24-116-138-164.cpe.cableone.net) 08.34.36 # Hello? 08.34.39 # hi 08.34.40 # hi hi hi 08.34.45 # I have a problem 08.34.51 # shoot 08.34.53 # i see LinusN is on the ball tonight 08.35.07 # "this morning" you mean :-) 08.35.08 # :) 08.35.29 # "afternoon" then 08.35.30 # my last day before my well-deserved vacation 08.35.32 # When I turn on my Recorder v2 It starts to load the OS then it fades out doesnt turn on 08.35.34 # deal 08.35.39 # aw, we'll miss you 08.35.47 # And when its pluged into the usb it turns off after a whle 08.35.51 # CourtesyFlush: battery status? 08.35.52 # Im sure its charged 08.36.24 # the batteri may be dead 08.36.25 # But I am charging it right now hoping it will work after a while 08.36.40 # or the battery connections may be bad 08.36.40 # But I have a flight tomorrow and I dont want to be with out it 08.36.52 # It could be that 08.37.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.37.10 # Im not sure if im using the original power cord thing 08.37.17 # oh 08.37.20 # voltage? 08.37.23 # Im not sure 08.37.25 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABC48.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.37.27 # Ill check 08.37.38 # general rule, if you don't know the voltage, don't plug it in 08.37.47 # you may kill it 08.37.48 # 4.5 08.37.52 # too low 08.37.57 # Is that bad though? 08.38.06 # Did it kill my battery? 08.38.12 # probably not 08.38.18 # you need 6V 08.38.18 # hmm 08.38.21 # Alright 08.38.26 # That will help a lot 08.38.27 # Thanks 08.38.31 # you're welcome 08.38.38 # I guess I better try to find the original power cord 08.38.43 # indeed 08.39.13 # Or 08.39.24 # Is there a way to configure it so it will like the 4.5 volt? 08.39.34 # midk: i will probably drop in here from time to time, can't stay away, you know 08.39.39 # CourtesyFlush: no 08.40.00 # LinusN, good... how long'll you be gone? 08.40.04 # week? few weeks? 08.40.06 # 4.5V should be enough to charge the battery, but it will take AGES 08.40.11 # 4 weeks 08.40.15 # i've used a 4.5 adapter- didn't do much 08.40.19 # woo, yay... 08.40.26 # by then breakout could be done 08.40.29 # ..... nah. :) 08.40.35 # midk: i believe it when i see it 08.41.03 # CourtesyFlush: you may be better off charging it via the USB cable 08.41.07 # eh, still have to implement .. hm... 08.41.10 # it's 5V 08.41.51 # Ok 08.41.51 # it still takes a lot longer than with the original charger 08.41.56 # Ok 08.42.03 # no longer than 5 hours? 08.42.09 # i dunno 08.42.18 Join Christi-S [0] (~Sarah@client-427-p-2-lns.winn.dial.virgin.net) 08.42.24 # Christi-S: welcome 08.42.34 # Morning, Linus. 08.42.39 # sorry about your dad 08.42.52 # 'S OK. Against all odds he's still alive. 08.43.11 # Not quite sure how he pulled off restarting his kidneys but I'm pleased. 08.43.22 # i'm glad 08.43.39 # Me too. :) 08.43.41 # how is he then? 08.44.21 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7F44B.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.44.26 # Very ill. But slowly getting better. If he could stop feeling sick and eat something it would be quicker. 08.44.41 # Still, we'll see how things go. 08.45.03 # i hope it turns out well 08.45.13 # CourtesyFlush: plane leaves in 5 hours? 08.45.17 # Trouble is he'll doubtless still have the cancer, so that's unlikely, but I live in hope. 08.45.47 # Well I leave for airport in 5 hours about 08.45.58 # more like 6 08.46.14 # Anyway, Rockbox. I'm thinking about implememnting "file move" as a plugin, with added functionality for .m3u files so that it changes the paths in them when it moves them. 08.46.17 # CourtesyFlush: then go look for the charger, and charge in with USB in the meantime 08.46.29 # Does that sound like a sensible way to do it. 08.46.38 # Christi-S: you're nuts :-) 08.47.03 # alright 08.47.13 # actually, we should start with implementing file move in the FAT driver first 08.47.14 # Well, yes, but it didn't strike me as that difficult to do. Maybe I'm underestimating the difficulty. 08.47.29 # it's not hard, just kidding 08.47.37 # *laugh* 08.47.38 # hm, someone asked about plugins howto on the list... 08.47.43 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.47.43 # * midk has fingers twitching to write one 08.47.50 # but how will it find the playlists? 08.47.59 # i could document the whole process of rewriting clock from scratch 08.48.01 # * Christi-S points midk in the direction of the wiki. 08.48.26 # midk: played with the split editor yet? 08.48.27 # Well, it'd only allow moving one file at a time. 08.48.31 # * midk points Christi-S in the way of ... the... store. 08.48.37 # LinusN, i tried, it was a bit confusing 08.48.51 # i couldn't get it to split right 08.48.53 # Christi-S: i mean, searching the hard drive for playlists is likely to take some time 08.48.59 # there needs to be a provided doc or something 08.49.08 # hi all 08.49.20 # hey amiconn 08.49.24 # Oh, right. My idea would be to have it as a viewer. 08.49.29 # midk: http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginSplitEdit 08.49.34 # So you'd find the playlist you want to move. 08.49.41 # manually. 08.49.57 # aha, you mean moving *playlists*, not mp3 files 08.50.23 # * Christi-S nods. 08.50.27 # * LinusN cleans his glasses 08.50.44 # hi amiconn 08.50.46 # I create playlists with Rockbox, but I don't really want them all hanging about in the root. 08.51.22 # LinusN: Any news concerning the problematic boxes (optimized ata & Hitachi DK23DA)? 08.51.25 # Christi-S, they save in the "current dir" when you choose save them.. 08.51.37 #