--- Log for 06.08.104 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 8 days and 21 hours ago 00.00.00 # man that request what someone filed last year 00.00.04 # was funny 00.00.06 # ?? 00.00.10 # which one? 00.00.22 # "Make the normal Recorders pick up FM like the FM recorder" 00.00.27 # heh 00.00.47 # bah 00.00.50 # only 200 hrs of music :( 00.01.05 # * kaboofa sighs as he starts ripping cds again 00.01.15 # you could write a plugin called "FM chip emulator plugin" 00.01.21 # :P 00.01.42 # you can downsample the line-in 00.01.54 # make a mixer, mix the input with about 88 MHz 00.02.02 # then demodulate it 00.02.09 # you'll need a faster MAS though 00.02.23 # in soviet poland, faster MAS needs you! 00.02.45 # ? 00.02.50 # yeah. 00.02.59 # polish humor i guess 00.03.00 # i miss othello 00.03.03 # har, har, har 00.03.05 # Har har har, polish humor. 00.03.08 # <3 you CTRL+L 00.03.16 # <3 ??? 00.03.18 # I <3 you too tom. 00.03.22 # <3 == heart 00.03.23 # bring back OTHELLO 00.03.26 # tilt you damn head! 00.03.27 # Smooth: get it from BC's site 00.03.29 # hey 00.03.33 # ctrl+l is evil 00.03.35 # now i lost all 00.03.39 # dude 00.03.43 # i have it bound on irssi 00.03.46 # Smooth: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm 00.03.49 # it will probably make your computer explode on uh... 00.03.58 # on xchat 00.04.02 # i don't know 00.04.09 # nah, it clears the screen 00.04.13 # ah 00.04.19 # I used xchat.. twice 00.04.22 # i think 00.04.31 # * dstar5 uses xchat 00.04.39 # how nice for you 00.04.46 # :) 00.04.50 # -dstar5- VERSION xchat 2.0.10c Windows 5.1 [i686/1.00GHz] :) 00.04.52 # buy a beer and go party 00.05.01 # dstar5: how can i do that? 00.05.02 # irssi is my favorite client 00.05.11 # woot!! 00.05.15 # VERSION xchat 2.0.8 Windows 5.1 [i686/1.86GHz] 00.05.17 # I still have my Benny Benassi album 00.05.24 # zeekoe: right click your name CTCP, then Version 00.05.24 # hmmm 00.05.24 # benni what? 00.05.29 # it's a guy 00.05.31 # that makes techno 00.05.32 # yeah. 00.06.39 # techno bad 00.06.47 # ssh, don't tell anyone i listen to it 00.06.47 # napster bad 00.06.51 # :P 00.06.51 # jazz good 00.06.58 # hm.. dunno 00.06.59 # rock good 00.07.08 # I cheated the MSN music site once 00.07.09 # ayreon good 00.07.11 # :P 00.07.14 # Aphex Twin good 00.07.17 # Smooth: how? 00.07.19 # Atreyu sorta good 00.07.39 # atreyu? 00.07.44 # a band 00.07.46 # metalcore 00.07.52 # sounds good 00.07.56 # * zeekoe open kazaa 00.08.05 # o.O 00.08.11 # i hope you're running nod32 :| 00.08.16 # nod what? 00.08.19 # their files consist of WMA files you can only play a few times on your system 00.08.24 # nod32, virus protection program 00.08.26 # ? 00.08.28 # why 00.08.33 # never mind. 00.08.49 # so what I did was prior to playing a file, I hooked up my Archos to the digital out on my sound card and recorded the playing file 00.08.56 # heh 00.08.59 # and captured the digital signal that way 00.09.09 # my friend ******* wrote code to strip that out :) 00.09.23 # he also made 'asf neuter' because he was sick of popups while watching pornos. 00.09.31 # it stripped the URL string out of the file 00.09.32 # lol 00.09.33 # it works on wma too 00.09.46 # :P 00.09.51 # Smooth: grep the file for U\0R\0L\0 00.09.52 # no copy protection is undefeatable 00.09.54 # wma == asf 00.09.54 # replace \0 w/ null 00.10.09 # zeekoe: i thought asf was usually video 00.10.09 # whatever 00.10.14 # i don't use wma by choice anyways 00.10.15 # dunno 00.10.27 # i know that wmv is about the same as asf 00.10.37 # close enough 00.10.51 # both patented stuff 00.11.05 # brb nature is calling me :) 00.11.09 # not convertible to anythinh normal 00.11.26 # nature called me 10 minutes ago 00.13.12 # me back 00.15.12 # wb 00.15.16 # wb? 00.15.20 # workbench? 00.15.28 # welcome back 00.15.29 # i'm lazy. 00.15.31 # i use unix. 00.15.32 # ok 00.15.34 # :P 00.15.47 # maybe i gonna use linux too 00.16.04 # if it has nice virtual dub like things 00.16.27 # ohh god lol for /. :Disney Enters PC Market 00.16.34 # s/for/from 00.18.27 # anyone looking at the source (nytimes) 00.18.34 # use scriptkiddie as username/password 00.18.38 # (bugmenot.com) 00.19.19 # that extension for firefox? 00.19.31 # never used it 00.19.32 # it also has a firefox extension, yeah 00.19.44 # speaking of ugly 00.19.45 # http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/04/technology/05disn.gif 00.20.50 # I would feel so dirty browsing for porn on that thing. 00.20.51 # lolo 00.21.22 # hahaha 00.21.24 # i wouldn't 00.22.02 # Lawyer: Mr. Mouse, you said want to divorce Minnie, because you think she's crazy? 00.22.02 # Mickey: Listen good this time: She's fucking Goofy! 00.22.03 # lol 00.22.50 # my eyes are thirsty as hell 00.22.53 # i should start blinking 00.27.03 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@81-86-122-158.dsl.pipex.com) 00.27.13 # hey! 00.27.15 # Guest! 00.27.24 # hello there! 00.27.57 # hi 00.29.07 Quit Smooth (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.33.11 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 00.40.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.55.27 Join midk [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 01.12.21 Nick midk is now known as midk|bbl (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 01.19.36 # bye 01.19.57 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 01.21.35 # way offtopic: does anyone know a program to check how many errors there are on a certain cd? 01.22.11 # audio-cd? 01.30.49 # uh 01.30.53 # dvd actually 01.31.00 # i said it wrong 01.31.17 # i remember there must be such a program, somewhere 01.42.50 Quit zeekoe ("quit...") 01.43.09 Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.56.58 Part amiconn 02.10.54 Join AciD [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 02.11.30 # So with my screwy rockbox, seeking in the file takes me to the right time, but letting it play runs at just below 1/2 speed... 02.11.31 # Hmm. 02.11.36 # This really sucks. 02.16.30 Part pvh 02.38.48 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.40.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.41.11 # hello 02.48.40 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.48.40 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.49.11 Nick scott666_ is now known as scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 03.21.30 Join Heil_Eris [0] (~centericq@p5487D36E.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.30.02 Quit Heil_Eri1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.13.10 Join kaltek [0] (~kaltek@rdu163-116-044.nc.rr.com) 04.14.18 # hey does any1 know if theres an os for the multimedia av100 04.20.50 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 04.24.49 Quit kaltek () 04.40.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.51.22 Quit edx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.51.22 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.02.18 Quit Wanderer (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.02.18 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.03.59 Quit Hes (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.03.59 Quit Ka_ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.07.47 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.07.47 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@he.fi) 05.07.47 NJoin Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@68.55.105.53) 05.20.03 NJoin Wanderer [0] (~nomad@3ffe:401d:2021:0:0:0:0:1) 05.52.34 Nick midk|bbl is now known as midk (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 05.56.41 Quit midk ("Leaving") 05.58.36 Quit AciD ("a genre of electronic music, characterized by widely distorted layered melodies, which are sequenced and repeated with differ) 05.58.36 Join midk [0] (midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 06.24.56 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABC44.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.25.33 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 06.31.49 Nick midk is now known as midk|doom3 (midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 06.40.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.44.09 Join Guest123 [0] (~jirc@adsl-67-125-0-71.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 06.44.41 # i've been reading through the mailing lists and can not seem to find an answer to my problem 06.45.22 # there are a few posts regarding the topic of "dir buffer is full!" but nothing is conclusive 06.46.14 # does anyone here have experiance with this problem? 06.48.32 # is anyone here? 06.55.53 # hello... anyone? 06.56.46 # help me please 07.04.33 Quit Guest123 ("Leaving") 08.00.42 Nick midk|doom3 is now known as midk (midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 08.00.43 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.40.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.41.38 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7F974.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.43.10 # brb 08.43.28 Quit midk ("just STOP it arspy") 08.45.06 Join midk [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 09.05.11 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 09.21.53 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 09.21.53 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.29.58 Join Christi-S [0] (~Sarah@client-123-p-1-lns.winn.dial.virgin.net) 09.39.36 Quit scott666 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.45.49 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 09.58.49 Quit edx () 10.03.26 Quit scott666_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.03.52 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 10.08.27 Quit scott666_ (Client Quit) 10.10.19 Quit Christi-S ("If I were actually witty, this quitline would be funny.") 10.16.49 Quit scott666 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.40.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.42.13 # nite all 10.42.31 Nick midk is now known as midk|sleep (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 11.06.00 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 11.43.58 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABC44.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.43.59 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.40.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.16.30 Join mattzz [0] (~d90a3255@c228028.adsl.hansenet.de) 13.18.24 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.27.24 Quit mattzz ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.43.49 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.46.43 Join oxygen77 [0] (~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net) 13.46.54 # ant cvs guru here? 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18.26.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> found 18.26.54 # Unfortunately not. It seems to be a timing issue with the recording init. 18.27.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> not you MAS version check 18.27.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> what a pity 18.29.08 # No, since the check did accept too many versions as being version B2 (it accepted all version ?2) variants. So this didn't change anything for me, since I actually have a version B2 mas. 18.30.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> hmm. A commit in that area was stirring my hopes... 18.30.34 # I stumbled upon this when comparing the datasheet with the code... 18.31.15 # I did a number of first tests: For running from ROM or RAM, entering "recording mode" 8 times and trying to start a recording 8 times each. (so 128 tries in total) 18.31.30 # From that, I found the following: 18.31.56 # (1) When running from RAM, it did always work (surprise!) 18.32.31 # (2) When running from ROM, it did work in 25% of all tries 18.32.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> a bad quota 18.33.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> have you tried moving parts of the recording init to IRAM? 18.33.32 # (3) (From ROM): If it worked in the 1st try after entering "recording mode", it worked for all 7 other tries until leaving recording mode 18.34.16 # (4) Dito, if it didn't work in the 1st try after entering recording mode, it didn't work for the 7 remaining tries either 18.34.55 # So this is why I suspect the recording init - it is only called when you enter recording mode 18.35.33 # If the init worked, recording was fine, if it didn't, I get always 30 bytes of garbage (plus ID3v2 and Xing header) 18.36.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> (code move) Or, we should open a small code section in DRAM, move parts there to narrow it down 18.36.59 # I tried moving one part of the init to IRAM - the drain_dma_buffer() function. It didn't help, however, I didn't do failure quota tests for that 18.37.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> Is drain_dma_buffer() a part of the recording init? 18.37.56 # yes 18.38.07 # The next thing I'll try is using the old transfer code from before my asm optimization (yes, :( ), and do quota tests with that. 18.39.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> I doubt that this will help, but it's a desparate attempt 18.39.27 # The recording init isn't 100% clean anyway, since some users occasionally reported hanging recording even with ordinary RAM rockbox 18.40.11 # I presume this issue will need some logic analyzing 18.40.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.40.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> that is tedious to set up 18.40.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> moving code is easier 18.41.26 # btw: draing_dma_buffer() does poll the mas almost the same way as rec_tick does, only that it doesn't save the data anywhere 18.41.38 # *drain_dma_buffer 18.42.29 # So I guess using the old transfer routines won't help here, but I'll do these tests just to be sure 18.49.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> time to go home 18.49.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> cu 18.49.46 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make") 19.15.40 Join moorkonig [0] (~trillian@port-212-202-200-171.dynamic.qsc.de) 19.17.04 Quit moorkonig (Remote closed the connection) 19.18.49 Join moormaster [0] (~trillian@port-212-202-200-171.dynamic.qsc.de) 19.23.08 Quit moormaster (Remote closed the connection) 19.34.32 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 19.48.00 Nick midk|sleep is now known as midk (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 19.49.43 Join pvh [0] (~operachat@h12-98.ios.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca) 19.55.36 Join zeekoe [0] (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 19.56.14 # brb 19.56.20 Quit midk ("Leaving") 20.00.00 Join midk [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 20.18.53 Join dstar5 [0] (Lee@ACC0E4DE.ipt.aol.com) 20.18.54 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.20.06 Nick scott666_ is now known as scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 20.24.49 # pvh: U there? 20.25.18 # amiconn: my unit is now flashable :) 20.26.14 # dstar5: Nice :) 20.26.33 # replaced the CPU borad with the one i my old archos 20.26.58 # although... 20.27.05 # i have one thing to fix 20.27.30 # the two points where the usb is connected to the cpu board, i cn't get soldered back in 20.27.49 # should i clean all the solder out of the holes to get it back in? 20.30.48 # dstar5: I don't knoe exactly what connections you mean, but if you only don't get them in because of solder in the holes, then you should probably do that 20.31.03 # amiconn: ok 20.31.21 # *know 20.31.59 # rombox is cool i had 1.811 mb i think 20.32.12 # dstar5: Did you try recording? 20.32.18 # (150 dir buf, 3000 playlist buf) 20.32.25 # yes, it does not work 20.32.30 # froze at size of 30 20.33.37 # I did more thorough tests, see backlog 20.34.27 # 18.26.54 # Unfortunately not. It seems to be a timing issue with the recording init. 20.36.11 # I would be interested which mas version you (and others) do have. I suspect that all recorder models have the B2 version... 20.36.47 # interesting 20.36.48 # I should extend the debug menu to get that info 20.37.56 # i amthinking about trying the 8mb ram mod i have a video card (32mb) with 4 of what appear to be the right ram chip 20.37.57 Quit zeekoe (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.38.00 # My suspicion results from a statement in the mas specs that _may_ have been misinterpreted a bit by Linus 20.38.30 # they are hynix HY5DV641622AT-36 20.38.35 Quit edx () 20.39.01 # misinterpreted? 20.39.04 # the init? 20.40.16 # No. The specs describe a procedure (called version B2 "black magic" by Linus) necessary to set up recording. 20.40.17 # humm looks like the wrtong chip has 30 pins, the right one should have 25 20.40.35 # ohh 20.40.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.41.35 # This was interpreted by Linus in a way that only the B2 version needs this "black magic" to set up recording. I rather suspect that the B2 version is the only one capable of recording at all 20.41.56 # ..and since all recorders can record, they must have version B2 20.42.08 # ahh 20.42.39 # * dstar5 looks at the mas doc 20.44.46 Join midk_ [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 20.45.33 # me just found a bug in the debug info if you go into view mas regs, and go all the the way to ~107, the music hangs, and the box crashes 20.45.41 # dstar5: See p. 28, section 3.3.4.1 20.46.08 # i am still oading the doc.. 20.46.14 # dstar5: With rombox? 20.46.15 # *loading 20.46.20 # amiconn: yes 20.46.28 # Hmm. 20.48.54 # just did it again, did not crash, but the music stopped, and would not play again until reboot 20.49.33 Quit midk (Nick collision from services.) 20.49.37 Nick midk_ is now known as midk (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 20.50.29 # amiconn: that does sound right to me.. only the B2 recordes 20.51.46 # time for lunch see you 20.51.47 # dstar5: The bug you discovered does also occur when running from ram 20.52.01 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 20.54.43 Join zeekoe [0] (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 21.00.07 Part Wanderer 21.01.40 # brb 21.01.49 Quit midk (Remote closed the connection) 21.03.56 Join midk [0] (midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 21.03.58 Join midkay [0] (midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 21.04.27 Quit midk (Nick collision from services.) 21.04.29 Nick midkay is now known as midk (midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 21.04.48 Join midkay [0] (midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 21.05.09 Quit midkay (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.05.33 # * midk is away: doom3 21.51.05 Join wake [0] (~wake@69.158.29.65) 21.57.03 Join zeekoe_ [0] (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 21.57.29 Quit zeekoe (Nick collision from services.) 21.57.39 Nick zeekoe_ is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 21.57.48 Quit zeekoe (Nick collision from services.) 21.59.38 Join zeekoe [0] (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 22.00.43 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 22.02.30 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABC44.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.16.31 Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.22.48 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABC44.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.24.29 Join Salokyn [0] (~Salokyn@AToulon-152-1-35-67.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.27.12 Quit AciD (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.39.42 Join nevs [0] (nevs@ACB9D5D5.ipt.aol.com) 22.39.50 # hi 22.40.05 # hi 22.40.07 # yay 22.40.10 # someone talking :) 22.40.35 # does anyone know of there is a windows media player plugin for archos jukebox? 22.40.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.41.09 # like wma? 22.41.15 # nooo 22.41.26 # just a protable device plugin 22.41.31 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/NoDo#5_Support_MP3pro_WMA_or_other_so 22.41.33 # ok 22.41.36 # i looked on the microsot website 22.41.39 # ???? 22.41.42 # but theres none 22.41.44 # oh no 22.41.46 # :P 22.41.47 # im not talking about wma 22.41.51 # what does that do? 22.42.01 # means u can send playlists directly to archos 22.42.06 # hm 22.42.07 # okay 22.42.15 # file, save as :) 22.42.42 # do u know how to wipe ur media libary in media player 22.43.08 # hmm sorry, i don't think i can be of much help 22.43.21 # all i use is winamp for mp3 and media player classic for movies 22.43.23 # oh ok 22.44.07 # i'll open wmp and play around a bit 22.44.22 # one it 22.44.24 # its ok 22.44.28 # i found out how 22.44.57 # now what i do is plugin jukebox then add all the files and make a star rated playlisy 22.45.31 # what's star rated? 22.45.55 # u know like 5 star songs and stuff 22.46.17 # uh ok 22.46.20 # 5 star is the best, 1 star the worst 22.46.22 # ok 22.46.24 # so i rate all my songs 22.46.32 # then just make a playlist of 5 star songs 22.46.37 # so you can choose to play all the good ones :) 22.46.45 # coz i have sooooooooo many songs 22.46.47 # yes 22.46.58 # i have a playlist with just amazing songs that i like 22.47.11 # how many songs? 22.47.22 # 5000 or so 22.47.26 # its alot to me 22.47.29 # that's much 22.47.44 # have you listened to them all? 22.48.01 # no 22.48.04 # lol 22.48.09 # u know the ipod 22.48.11 # :P same for me i guess 22.48.12 # yep 22.48.27 # it has a cool function, showing all the songs u havnt listened to 22.48.38 # and it has built in , most played songs 22.48.42 # hm..okay... 22.48.46 Quit Salokyn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.48.51 # * zeekoe thinks 22.49.13 # ? 22.49.29 # ...would this be easily possible on rockbox too? 22.49.40 # i spoke to someone about it 22.49.56 # they said yes/no 22.50.44 # i hope it could be done 22.50.53 # like top 30 songs played 22.51.12 # also i would like anthoer function to see how many hours of music u have listen to 22.51.26 # or how long the jukebox has been on 22.52.00 # why do ppl join this room if they dont chat? 22.52.11 # its only me and u 22.52.56 Join zeekoe2 [0] (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 22.53.11 # disconnected hey 22.53.40 # yep 22.53.50 # lousy lan cable 22.54.00 # lol 22.54.07 # not many ppl speak here do they? 22.54.12 # why do they bother to join 22.54.19 # WAKE up eveeyone 22.54.30 # quite some of the people here speak every once in a while 22.54.36 # not all of them 22.54.45 # at least, for what i've seen 22.54.57 # i know dwihno speaks 22.55.04 # btw, there is already a function to show how long rockbox is running 22.55.13 # is there? 22.55.21 # somewhere in the debug menu 22.55.27 # for just one seesion? or since u installed rockbox 22.55.56 # also i want a item for how for how long u have been listneing to music in days or hours 22.56.06 # that would be nice 22.58.52 # i think it's the time since you changed batteries 22.59.07 # i dont have an adapter for my jukebox (yet) 22.59.22 # what? 22.59.33 # u need to change ur batteries? 22.59.37 # yep 22.59.56 # i got 1800 mah in mine now 22.59.57 # only once in, say, 8 hours of listening or so 23.00.02 # i got uh 23.00.20 # 2300 23.00.27 # nice 23.00.30 # 8 hours? 23.00.37 # surely longer than that 23.00.47 # i get 12-15 hours of mine 23.01.02 # dunno 23.01.12 # i'm doing all kinds of weird stuff with it 23.01.38 # only got it about 3-4 weeks ago, and it's holiday 23.01.47 # recorder? 23.01.51 # when going to school again i'll probably get higher playing times 23.01.58 # yeah, recorder 20 23.02.04 # and you? 23.02.06 # how did u discover rockbox? 23.02.10 # i got studio 20 23.02.13 # ok 23.02.26 # rockbox is amazing 23.02.28 # i got larger display, that may drain some batteries 23.02.42 # dunno exactly how i discover rockbox 23.02.52 # about a year ago i wanted a jbmm20 23.03.09 # and i was reading all stuff about it, joined mailing lists, etx 23.03.14 # etc* 23.03.27 # oh ok 23.03.31 # people were complaining about the firmware, and why there wasnt rockbox 23.03.36 # i was a member of a yahoo group 23.03.52 # and then, this year, i wanted to find an mp3 player, and it became recorder 20 23.03.56 # really good choice 23.04.01 # nevs: what group? 23.04.09 # erm the archos one 23.04.19 # which archos one? 23.04.23 # archosmultimedia? 23.04.26 # no 23.04.35 # 6000 or someting 23.04.37 # ok 23.04.41 # i've heard of it 23.06.05 # how much did u buy ur recorder for 23.06.54 # Eur 199 23.07.05 # oh ok 23.07.06 # pong 23.07.13 # oh sorry i wa playing around 23.07.15 # :P 23.07.22 # havnt used this prog much 23.07.31 # * nevs slaps zeekoe2 around a bit with a large trout 23.07.33 Quit wake ("leaving") 23.07.38 # lol 23.07.43 # * nevs slaps zeekoe around a bit with a large trout 23.07.48 # oh no... mirc 23.07.50 Quit zeekoe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.07.51 # * nevs slaps dwihno around a bit with a large trout 23.07.58 Nick zeekoe2 is now known as zeekoe (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 23.08.02 DBUG Enqueued KICK nevs 23.08.02 # * nevs slaps dwihno around a bit with a large trout 23.08.20 # all aol users use mirc :P 23.08.25 # why? 23.08.33 # why aol users 23.08.38 # do i use aol? 23.08.42 # yes 23.08.47 # how do u kno 23.08.51 # magic 23.09.01 # coz my ip aol ibt... crap 23.09.09 # /whois nevs 23.09.30 # what? 23.09.56 # u have surfen hetnet adsl 23.10.09 # lol 23.10.17 # hetnet adsl surfen 23.10.25 # yes 23.10.31 # u using mirc 23.10.55 # u on ur evualtion time? 23.10.56 # hetnet is a dutch isp, means "the net", and surfen means surfing 23.11.00 # of course not 23.11.04 # mirc is not free 23.11.08 # for me it is 23.11.10 # shhhh 23.11.22 # if i was at all using it, it would be warez mirc :P 23.11.33 # just using xchat 23.11.34 # that is free 23.11.49 # but no funny slapping around using trouts 23.11.59 # OLD XCHAT ALERT 23.12.05 # what? 23.12.12 # cmon. 2.0.10c is out,and he's using 2.0.8 23.12.22 # hm 23.12.27 # whats the difference 23.12.49 # http://xchat.org/changelog.txt 23.13.52 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.13.52 # * amiconn finds the closest large object and gives zeekoe a slap with it 23.14.08 # amiconn: using mirc too? 23.14.24 # Ooops.... No, using HydraIRC 23.14.39 # does it have insults too? 23.14.43 # what 23.14.57 # zeekoe: It's as simple as to write /slap 23.15.00 # instults 23.15.18 # neat 23.16.07 # midk: does xchat have a /slap plugin? 23.16.21 # not that i know of 23.16.24 # wtf is with all this insult rubbush 23.16.39 # whats going on 23.16.39 # nevs: you started :) 23.16.44 # what? 23.17.02 # * nevs slaps zeekoe around a bit with a large trout 23.17.07 # what does that do? 23.17.25 # what does what do? 23.17.31 # the slap 23.17.38 # can't you see it? 23.17.42 # yes 23.17.43 # what? 23.17.43 # * nevs slaps zeekoe around a bit with a large trout 23.17.47 # is that it 23.17.49 # yes 23.17.53 # ahh ok 23.17.56 # me wants it 23.18.01 # lol 23.18.04 # i gtg 23.18.10 # cya tommorw o or something 23.18.16 # happy rockboxing 23.18.22 Quit nevs () 23.18.40 Join jayms [0] (~jayms@cdm-208-180-250-55.htvl.cox-internet.com) 23.31.15 # hmm... something went wrong i think 23.31.28 # i did this: H:\>halftone ST_TNG_The_child.avi ST_TNG_The_child.yuv -m 23.976 23.31.42 # and now rockbox thinks the video lasts really long 23.31.53 # why not just use the gui? 23.31.56 # i tried it, it works great. 23.32.14 # uh 23.32.15 # ok 23.32.37 # but it takes a long time depending on your cpu.. how long is the clip? 23.34.14 # 45 minutes 23.34.26 # how long has halftone been going? 23.34.37 # it works 23.34.48 # but now i have it on rockbox 23.34.53 Join edx{code} [0] (edx@pD9EABC44.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.34.53 Quit edx (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.34.53 # ohh 23.35.02 # and rockbox thinks it's like 80 hours 23.35.05 # yeah.. the progressbar seens off? 23.35.05 # or 80 minutes 23.35.06 # not sure 23.35.15 # and the image is all distorted 23.35.35 # hm, i don't know much about arguments to halftone.. 23.35.43 Quit edx{code} (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.35.47 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABC44.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.36.04 # i try the one without sound 23.36.21 # -m is movie_fps 23.36.33 # and i set it to 23.976 23.37.50 # zeekoe: (1) The input file for halftone is the .yuv, the output is the .rvf. .Avi has nothing to do here 23.38.02 # heh 23.38.04 # whoops 23.38.20 # i did really weird things 23.38.23 # (2) -m is either 29.976 (NTSC) or 25 (PAL). 23.976 is a weird value 23.38.40 # actually what i really did was .avi to .mp3 .... 23.38.47 # but it is 23.976215 23.39.00 # the gui tells me, mplayerc tells me, gspot22 tells me 23.39.25 # Hmm. Then it's obviously not directly derived from tv/dvd/vcd 23.39.33 # heh 23.40.09 # (as I almost always assume, since most of my .rvf files are dvd conversions) 23.40.28 # i think it came originally from dvd 23.40.36 # it has ac3 sound and stuff 23.42.19 # Maybe it's grabbed from an NTSC dvd, then the 3:2 pulldown was removed (inverse telecine process). Cinema is 24 fps 23.43.21 # Actually, NTSC is 29.97 fps 23.43.39 # i know 23.44.14 # 24 / 2 * 3 = 36 23.44.25 # what's the 2:3 pulldown? 23.46.10 # 3:2 pulldown is necessary to convert 24 fps (cinema) to ~30 fps (ntsc). One original frame is copied to 3 consecutive video fields, the next original frame is copied to 2 video fields 23.46.47 # okay... cool 23.46.56 # how do they do this with pal? 23.47.01 # that's 25 fps 23.47.03 # The movie then plays 0.1 % too slow on ntsc - not noticeable 23.47.09 # ok 23.47.15 # nice 23.47.36 # For PAL, 1:1 pulldown is used, so the movie plays ~4 % too fast - this is sometimes noticeable 23.48.56 # Note that it is called 1:1, however it should be called 2:2 to be consistent with the ntsc 3:2 23.49.05 # hey... would that be why lotr3 was minutes shorter at home than in cinema... 23.49.18 # yup. I noticed that too 23.49.36 # i guess the sound is sped up too? 23.50.19 # probably takes quite some ugly resampling... 23.50.54 # but you probably won't notice when played 48 thousand frames per second 23.50.57 # It is sped up and the pitch goes up too 23.51.36 # This is noticeable by individuals with "trained ears", since this is more than a quartertone 23.51.50 # so... if there's some music in cinema, and i want to play along in guitar... 23.52.09 # i'd have to tune it a bit 23.52.14 # odd... 23.52.49 # yay! the video works nicely now! 23.53.55 # thanks for noticing, amiconn :-) 23.54.06 # i should use the gui 23.54.24 # np