--- Log for 13.08.104 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 15 days and 21 hours ago 00.10.38 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.42.05 Join dstar5 [0] (lee@IC102.library.oregonstate.edu) 00.43.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.55.19 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 00.55.58 Join Smooth [0] (909510b8@ACBE5F09.ipt.aol.com) 01.16.18 Quit Smooth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.18.23 # bye bye me going to get a 44oz soda and go home :) 01.19.20 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 01.20.56 Quit Ka_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.16 # brb 01.31.19 # back 01.37.08 Part amiconn 01.40.20 Quit midk ("just STOP it arspy") 01.43.27 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 01.43.43 Quit midk (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.43.44 Join midkay [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 01.44.07 Nick midkay is now known as midk (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 01.47.37 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 02.43.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.46.36 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.50.38 Join Zane [0] (~jirc@d149-67-202-28.nap.wideopenwest.com) 02.50.52 # YO Can anbody help me? 02.51.39 # what you're doing really is asking permission to ask a question... perhaps it's best to just ask the question instead 02.51.51 # so possibly, without the actual question, no, i can't help you 02.51.51 # gook 02.51.52 # ok 02.53.01 # I flashed my Fm Recorder to Version 2.2 and now i want to upgrade the firmware to a higer version... i dl the new version of firmware and i put it in the root folder 02.53.18 # what file? ajbrec.ajz you put in the root? 02.53.21 # i than reboot the unit 02.53.24 # and it goes back to 2.2 02.53.29 # and yes in the root folder 02.53.41 # yes ajbrec.ajz 02.53.45 # i'm really asking, was it ajbrec.ajz 02.53.48 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 02.53.49 # hmm, ok, instead you need "rockbox.ucl" 02.54.10 # ok and put that where 02.54.53 # anywhere 02.54.55 # root is fine 02.55.00 # and run it, like you'd run an mp3 02.55.19 # ok il do that gime sec 02.55.50 Join ozcar [0] (zazz@076-062.dialup.sunysb.edu) 02.59.06 # i click play on the .ucl file and nothing happens 02.59.49 # wait 02.59.50 # nvm 02.59.57 # now it is goin to flash again 03.00.48 # should i flash it again? 03.05.10 # u there bro? 03.06.05 # back 03.06.07 # sorry! 03.06.12 # yeah, flash it again 03.06.25 # ok i did and it still loads the same version? 03.06.28 # this flash is safe, as there is a workaround assuming it does fail (but it almost definitely won't) 03.06.33 # should load the new one 03.06.52 # hmm should i put the new file in there b4 i flash it? 03.06.52 # are you sure you got today's ucl? and you hit "f2" to flash when it asked? 03.07.11 # ok listen up, here's what you should do 03.07.17 # get a new daily build ZIP from the daily builds page 03.07.24 # extract all of it to your archos 03.07.33 # run the ajbrec.ajz that will be in root (it will be for today's build) 03.07.41 # ok gime sec 03.07.46 # when you finish that, go into .rockbox and run "rockbox.ucl" 03.07.52 # hit f2 when it asks, wait a sec, and you should be done 03.07.59 # reboot and you'll have the new version 03.08.35 # ok download a daily builds 03.08.47 # yup, extract all to the archos 03.08.51 # ok 03.08.58 # is the newest one the best? 03.09.03 # yeah 03.09.06 # ok 03.09.11 # well it's the newest.. :) 03.09.35 # hehe 03.09.39 # ok its all on mp3 player 03.09.51 # ok, play on the new ajbrec.ajz in the root 03.10.13 # ok so rolo to the new version and than run that file? 03.10.18 # yup 03.10.26 # /.rockbox/rockbox.ucl 03.11.03 # ok its done 03.11.11 # reboot 03.11.14 # ok 03.11.22 # oo ur good 03.11.23 # should be CVS-20040812 03.11.26 # :] 03.11.33 # thank u much 03.11.38 # no problems 03.11.41 # i have been tryin all da 03.11.50 # haha, anything else you need come right on backl 03.11.52 # back* 03.11.53 # had to deal with the dir full stuff and all that 03.11.55 # ok i will 03.11.58 # thank u 03.12.01 # ah, yeah, sucks 03.12.03 # np again 03.12.07 # what about this ask webmaster to register it 03.12.09 # this chat thing 03.12.19 # hmm 03.12.25 # it doesn't really matter 03.12.27 # only you see it 03.12.31 # but if you want grab an irc client 03.12.37 # i'd suggest xchat (xchat.org) 03.12.42 # a lot prettier 03.12.48 # and easier 03.12.50 # lol that wat u use? 03.12.53 # yeah 03.13.02 # www.xchat.org 03.13.04 # right? 03.13.11 # yeah 03.13.23 # at the upper right you should click 2.0.10c for windows 03.13.23 # kool 03.13.35 # ok il do that when i get on my own computer 03.13.40 # dam u people are alot of help 03.13.53 # :) 03.14.11 # u mind if i ask a few questions? 03.14.21 # nope 03.14.25 # i just got my archos back from repari so im lost on all the new rockbox shitff 03.14.28 # stuff* 03.14.33 # wats bookmarking? 03.14.47 # you can record your current position in a song 03.14.59 # kool 03.15.08 # if you choose "create bookmark" it will make a marker that includes the current location in the song and the repeat/shuffle modes 03.15.23 # then when you play it again, or the bookmark, you get a screen asking if you want to resume to that bookmark(s) 03.15.34 # kool so u can like save 03.15.37 # where u are? 03.16.02 # seattle, washington 03.16.09 # kool 03.16.13 # Chicago, IL 03.16.36 # how u set up that voice thing if u dont mind telling me. 03.17.16 # hmm 03.17.21 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/voice 03.17.31 # ok does that have it all? 03.17.36 # how to do it? 03.17.41 # iirc 03.17.54 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceFiles 03.18.03 # it's right on the page 03.18.08 # kool 03.18.08 # there's a link near the top 03.18.13 # "learn how" 03.18.18 # ok 03.18.23 # thank u much 03.18.26 # no problem 03.18.31 # there are diff voices etc 03.18.35 # you can find one you like i guess 03.18.38 # kool 03.18.38 # lol 03.18.47 # a few more questions 03.19.00 # ladies, men, deep, high pitched haha 03.19.02 # go on 03.19.17 # wat does battery_test do 03.20.49 # hmm, actually not sure, but there is info at the wiki 03.21.01 # at the site, click "wiki" at the left, and click "CategoryPlugins" 03.21.07 # there is a description of each plugin available 03.21.16 # err 03.21.24 # "PluginIndex", not "CatergoryPlugins" 03.21.42 # ahh i never knew wat wiki stood for so i never went there 03.21.59 # wiki is an open source type documentation system 03.22.05 # where anyone can contribute to it freely 03.22.37 # o 03.22.39 # ic 03.22.55 # thank u much 4 ur help bro could not of done it with out u 03.23.39 # no problems at all 03.25.29 # now to try to work with that voice thing 03.25.42 # good luck, it's sort of easy really 03.27.33 # lol i give up lol im goin to customize a wps 03.27.53 # ah, yeah, more fun :D 03.28.06 # much more 03.28.43 # how do u lock keys? 03.28.49 # dont feel like serchin help file 03.29.05 # f1+down 03.29.07 # at the wps 03.30.26 # kk 03.30.27 # thank u 03.31.11 # sure 03.32.06 # where can i find the default wps? 03.32.42 # in your .rockbox dir i think 03.33.02 # hmm i dont think there is one because its not htere 03.33.58 Quit Zane ("Leaving") 03.34.46 Join Zane [0] (~jirc@d149-67-202-28.nap.wideopenwest.com) 03.36.36 # there 03.37.28 # ? 03.37.34 # how can i see a estimate time life on battery 03.37.36 # well... it's at the wps page near the bottom 03.38.11 # i really can't say. just guess. maybe 8h on the 1500mah, 10h on 1850 or so, 12h on 2200 03.38.43 # hmm i get 12 hr 03.39.03 # i thought there was a way 4 the firmware to tell how much left 03.39.26 # ther eis 03.39.28 # there is* 03.39.33 # main menu, info, rockbox info. 03.39.55 # kool 03.40.21 # and the default battery in a fm recorder is a 2200 03.41.49 # yeah 03.41.54 # kool 03.43.22 # well im out il be back lata 03.43.34 # thank u much 03.43.36 # later 03.43.39 # brb 03.43.44 Quit midk (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.43.45 Quit Zane ("Leaving") 03.45.52 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 03.50.00 Quit ozcar (Client Quit) 03.55.56 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 04.23.18 Quit Ka ("* poof *") 04.23.19 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.29.37 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 04.43.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.30 Join edx{code} [0] (edx@pD9EAB6D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.48.04 Quit edx{code} (Client Quit) 05.02.20 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.41.18 Quit dwihno (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.41.18 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.41.18 Quit Ka (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.41.59 Quit Hadaka (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.41.59 Quit Hes (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.42.12 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.42.12 NJoin Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 05.42.12 NJoin dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 05.43.18 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 05.43.18 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@he.fi) 05.56.39 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 06.41.28 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.43.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.11.25 Quit scott|sleep ("i'll be back...eventually...") 08.19.19 DEBUG EOF from server (Connection timed out) 08.19.19 *** Cleanup 08.19.19 *** Connected to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 08.19.19 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 08.19.19 *** Server message 501: 'logbot_ :Unknown MODE flag' 08.19.19 Mode "logbot_ :+i" by logbot_ 08.19.19 Join logbot_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 08.19.19 Join wake [0] (~wake@HSE-Ottawa-ppp161332.sympatico.ca) 08.19.19 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-78-112.dynamic.qsc.de) 08.19.19 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stz-softwaretechnik.com) 08.19.19 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-224-49.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 08.19.19 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@he.fi) 08.19.19 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 08.19.19 Join webmind [0] (~random@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 08.19.19 Join ze [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-138.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 08.19.19 Join kaboofa [0] (~kaboofa@pcp0010264710pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net) 08.19.19 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 08.19.19 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 08.19.19 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 08.30.09 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.37.55 Quit midk (Connection reset by peer) 08.44.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.46.41 Quit wake ("leaving") 08.56.56 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7EAFC.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.58.26 # Hi Jens! Maybe it's just me, but I havent experienced RLD for quite a while 08.58.49 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 09.00.49 # dwihno: Nice :) Is this while running "ordinary" daily builds (or own builds with the optimized ata compiled in)? 09.01.27 # amiconn: I think it's just regular daily builds, or cvs I've checked out myself 09.21.30 DEBUG Lost contact with server 09.21.30 *** Cleanup 09.21.30 *** Cleanup 09.21.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.21.30 *** Exit 09.21.35 *** Started Dancer V4.16p1 09.21.35 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.21.35 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.21.35 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.21.35 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.21.35 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.21.35 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.21.35 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.21.35 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.21.35 *** Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 09.21.35 *** Cleanup 09.21.35 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 09.21.35 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 09.22.04 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 09.22.04 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 09.22.05 Join logbot [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.22.05 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 09.22.05 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7EAFC.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.22.05 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stz-softwaretechnik.com) 09.22.05 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-224-49.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 09.22.05 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@he.fi) 09.22.05 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 09.22.05 Join webmind [0] (~random@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 09.22.05 Join ze [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-138.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 09.22.05 Join kaboofa [0] (~kaboofa@pcp0010264710pcs.indpnd01.mo.comcast.net) 09.22.05 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 09.22.05 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 09.23.43 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@reladm.kharkov.net) 09.24.17 Quit [IDC]Dragon (Client Quit) 09.41.54 Quit Ka (Nick collision from services.) 09.42.50 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@reladm.kharkov.net) 09.46.13 Join Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 09.53.57 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB6D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.09.59 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.11.43 # hi Zagor 10.13.21 Join scott|sleep [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 10.15.10 # hi 10.31.04 # [IDC]Dragon: You asked for me yesterday? 10.31.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi, yes. 10.31.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> (trying to remember) 10.31.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> probably about that broken box. 10.32.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> seems that the disk I/O is somehow broken 10.32.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> when I dump ROM/Flash, I get this stuck 0 bit every 8 KB 10.32.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> but the ROM checksum is OK 10.33.27 # <[IDC]Dragon> meaning, the box reads the memory correct, but on dik I get that problem 10.33.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> s/dik/disk 10.34.01 # Did you try a different hd? 10.34.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, same symptom. 10.34.48 # Same or different disk model? 10.35.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> reading seems to have problems, too, since rolo fails the checksum test, firmware_flash.rock reports bad CRC on the .bin file. 10.35.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> a different, known good model. 10.35.46 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make (EOF)") 10.36.30 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@reladm.kharkov.net) 10.36.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> CGIIRC is unstable today... 10.36.59 # [IDC]Dragon: Did you try a build without optimized ata? 10.37.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> no, I was using 2.2 10.37.31 # Ah ok, this is supposed to have "old" ata code. 10.37.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's kind of hard to "try" a build on that box 10.38.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> without rolo, and .ucl flashing resulting in garbled data 10.38.22 # I wonder what max_multiple_sectors is (for both disks you tried). I guess it might be 16 (=8 K) 10.39.43 # [IDC]Dragon: Aren't you able to flash via uart (as I think you revived it that way)? 10.39.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, this is the only way 10.40.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> for a non 2.2 build, I'd have to assemble a .bin file 10.40.39 # Ah, just wanted to ask that 10.41.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> max_multiple_sectors is not shown in the debug info? 10.42.22 # No it isn't, but it should be easy to add that info. If it is too difficult to get such a build into the bad box, you could try the disk(s) with another box then 10.43.41 # Another thing I'd try (if it's not too difficult) would be using a current daily _with_ optimized ata 10.46.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> but this is not fixing a hardware problem 10.47.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> the original Archos software also fails to start an .ajz from disk, the owner says (I haven't checked so far) 10.50.19 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make (EOF)") 10.54.14 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@reladm.kharkov.net) 10.54.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> this is no fun 10.54.43 # what's happening? 10.55.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> the CGIIRC server I'm using seems unstable 10.57.53 # [IDC]Dragon: Of course this does not fix the hardware problem, but it may help to find out what's going on 10.58.18 # I wonder if the mp3 playback works, because the loaded mp3s will probably have these bit errors as well 10.58.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor: we get a lot of out-of-office replies into the list these days 10.58.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> all from one user 10.58.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> is there a way to filter that? 10.59.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> (probably not, if it's an ordinary reply) 10.59.34 # i'm annoyed by it too. i think i'll bump him from the list 11.00.42 # done 11.00.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> we cant' tell him/her, while being away 11.00.51 # exactly 11.01.09 # i'll just send a mail explaining why he has been unsubscribed 11.01.14 # to him, i mean 11.01.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> guess what the first answer will be... ;-) 11.02.18 # yeah, but at least it will be in his inbox. it's the civil thing to do. 11.02.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> certainly. 11.02.42 # "out of office repplies"? 11.02.46 # yeah 11.02.46 # replies* 11.03.42 # oh. where when you send a mail you get back "Sorry, this person is out of office, will be back xx,xx,xxxx" or such? 11.04.08 # yup. quite annoying when it is sent to mailing lists. 11.04.26 # ah, correct 11.04.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> it can be a snowball effect, actually? 11.05.34 # yes. we're just lucky nobody else had such an autoresponse turned on. 11.05.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> because the out of office replies sent to the list are also sent to that person again, causing another reply, etc. 11.06.15 # that can be filtered by the auto-responder. the hard part is other peoples' autoresponses... 11.08.12 # hm, it'd be great to have two people out of office - then one guy would auto reply to the other guy's auto reply 11.08.18 # perhaps that's what idc was suggesting 11.08.25 # and it'd go forever 11.09.54 # yes 11.10.34 # that's why autoresponders are generally frowned upon by People Who Think 11.11.03 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make (EOF)") 11.11.19 # i see, this means that zagor must have a brain... ;) 11.11.42 # don't be too sure :) 11.12.16 # i knew it! idc is remote controlling you.. now to prove the theory... :] 11.14.39 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@reladm.kharkov.net) 11.15.21 # [IDC]Dragon: why is it that you don't use a native irc client? 11.15.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi again :-( 11.15.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> firewall 11.16.36 # ok. i use an ssh tunnel out of the firewall i'm locked behind, but that requires an external host under your control. 11.17.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> I know, but this would probably be called hacking here. 11.17.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> we're allowed to use IE, that's pretty much it. 11.18.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> would you mind setting up GCIIRC on haxx? 11.19.17 # i can look at it 11.19.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> that would be great, thanks! 11.21.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.21.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> matzz has set one up on his "home server", he said it's a piece of cake, but I can't use it properly. 11.22.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> the input line is somehow off-screen with my browser, so I can't type, it's read only to me. 11.22.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> it works for him, though. 11.23.53 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make (EOF)") 11.24.17 Join webguest23 [0] (~c10f1783@labb.contactor.se) 11.24.45 # hehe, that was easy :) 11.24.57 # off to lunch, then i'll set it up properly 11.25.17 Quit webguest23 (Client Quit) 11.54.07 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@reladm.kharkov.net) 11.57.15 Quit [IDC]Dragon (Client Quit) 12.00.21 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@reladm.kharkov.net) 12.00.58 # [IDC]Dragon: Obviously Zagor is trying to set up CGIIRC 12.03.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, saw that in the logs 12.03.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> and obviously he succeeded 12.04.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> 5 minutes for "I'll look into it" to the login, impressive 12.10.37 # [IDC]Dragon: try this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/cgiirc/irc.cgi 12.13.10 Join zagor_cgitest [0] (~c10f1783@labb.contactor.se) 12.13.45 # test 12.13.57 Quit zagor_cgitest (Client Quit) 12.14.11 # dahaha, hahaha, hahah... hah.... hh... ugh. 12.14.19 Join zagor_cgitest [0] (~c10f1783@labb.contactor.se) 12.14.33 # yay it's zaggy 12.15.54 Quit zagor_cgitest (Client Quit) 12.16.03 # hmm, not perfect 12.21.38 Join more_cgi_test [0] (~3e5f4883@labb.contactor.se) 12.21.49 # this seems to work 12.21.57 # pretty neat script 12.22.22 Join midk2 [0] (~42eb0e78@labb.contactor.se) 12.22.29 # hi there people. 12.22.39 # not too bad, eh? 12.22.47 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("no fate but what we make (Ping timeout)") 12.23.22 # gosh, it even has tabs :) 12.23.33 # this'd be nice to replace that java irc client (perhaps) 12.23.48 # join #ccwb 12.23.56 # yeah 12.23.57 # m 12.24.01 # doesn't work. 12.24.02 # grr 12.24.19 # no, you're locked to #rockbox. i don't want it to be used for generic irc use. 12.24.26 Part more_cgi_test 12.24.58 # BOOO 12.25.02 # er 12.25.04 # good job zagor 12.25.10 # :) 12.25.34 # yay hi. 12.25.43 # hi midk2 12.25.48 # how are you midk? 12.25.56 # good thanks 12.25.59 # die now, DIE. 12.26.02 Quit midk2 (Client Quit) 12.46.05 Join cgi_amiconn [0] (~d9e7eafc@labb.contactor.se) 12.48.13 Join cgi_amiconn_ [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.06.44 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 13.09.40 Quit [IDC]Dragon (Client Quit) 13.10.25 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 13.10.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> another test 13.11.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> from opera this time 13.11.53 Join amiconn_cgi [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.12.53 Join amiconn_cgi_ [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.13.17 Join eljona [0] (JavaUser@213.149.101.4) 13.13.43 # [IDC]Dragon: Do you have problems with it? I tried it with Mozilla 1.7, 1.7, IE 6, Opera 7. All work perfectly 13.13.47 # having fun with a simple cgi script i see :] 13.14.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> IE is not showing the input line 13.14.40 Quit eljona ("http://herzeleid.com/") 13.14.54 Join webguest81 [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.14.54 *** Alert Mode level 1 13.14.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK cgi_amiconn_ 13.14.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK amiconn_cgi 13.14.54 *** Alert Mode level 2 13.14.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK amiconn_cgi_ 13.14.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK webguest81 13.14.54 *** Alert Mode level 3 13.14.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's the same problem like with matzz' CGIIRC 13.16.13 Quit webguest81 (Client Quit) 13.16.43 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.18.45 Quit amiconn_cgi_ ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 13.19.10 Quit cgi_amiconn ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 13.19.52 Join webguest21 [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.20.04 Quit cgi_amiconn_ ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 13.20.38 Join webguest48 [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.21.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.23.18 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 13.24.55 *** Alert Mode OFF 13.28.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> am I still here? 13.29.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> seems so 13.29.15 # you are indeed 13.29.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> the loading state of the page looks a bit odd 13.31.55 # [IDC]Dragon: Iiuc the page has to stay in page mode, as cgiirc seems to use server push 13.34.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> hmm, tab completion doesn't work here 13.35.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> correction, it works sometimes 13.36.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> seems to take only the last letter 13.36.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> and use that to find a nich starting with that 13.36.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> s/nich/nick 13.37.42 # The reladm one works with IE? Strange. Did you compare the cgiirc versions? 13.40.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> the one I was using is 0.5.2 13.41.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> here we have 0.5.4 13.41.51 # i tried with opera, mozilla and msie and it worked pretty good in all of them. best in msie, as that apparently is what the devs are using. 13.43.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> I can use it with Opera7, but have issues with the tab completion, plus it seems not to auto-scroll 13.46.24 # I tried it with IE 5.5 and IE 5.01 in addition to the browsers mentioned earlier, also without problems 13.48.51 Join webguest47 [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.48.51 *** Alert Mode level 1 13.48.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK webguest21 13.48.51 *** Alert Mode level 2 13.48.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK webguest48 13.48.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK webguest47 13.48.51 *** Alert Mode level 3 13.49.38 Quit webguest47 (Client Quit) 13.50.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> maybe it gets better whe we switch to IE6 soon 13.50.09 Quit webguest48 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 13.50.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> s/whe/when 13.50.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> having to scroll down all the time to see the latest is annoying 13.50.46 Quit webguest21 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 13.50.48 # yeah 13.51.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> with the 0.5.2 version I didn't have to do that 13.51.29 # file a bug report ;) 13.51.42 # [IDC]Dragon: You are still using an old version of IE??? 13.51.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> do you guys also have that? 13.52.11 # nite 13.52.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> right now I use Opera7 13.52.30 Nick midk is now known as midk|sleep (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 13.52.38 Join zagor_test [0] (~c10f1783@labb.contactor.se) 13.52.55 # [IDC]Dragon: What Windows & IE version do you have there? 13.52.57 Quit zagor_test (Client Quit) 13.53.08 Join zagor_test [0] (~c10f1783@labb.contactor.se) 13.53.41 Join webguest88 [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.54.23 Join zagor_test2 [0] (~c10f1783@labb.contactor.se) 13.54.28 Join webguest24 [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 13.54.33 # testing 13.54.42 # more testing.. 13.54.48 # interstingly, it seems to work better without javascript in opera 13.55.38 Part zagor_test2 13.56.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: Win2K and IE5.5 13.57.12 # i didn't have the scroll problem neither with or without javascript though 13.58.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> great. It works for everybody besides me. 13.58.52 *** Alert Mode OFF 14.02.01 # :) 14.02.22 # have you tried without javascript? it's a little less flashy but works rather well 14.07.59 Quit zagor_test ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.10.45 # [IDC]Dragon: I observe the scrolling problem with Opera 7 too (7.22) 14.10.45 Quit webguest24 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.10.46 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.10.54 Join [IDC]Dragon2 [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 14.11.01 # [IDC]Dragon: I observe the scrolling problem with Opera 7 too (7.22) 14.11.12 # <[IDC]Dragon2> it mandates JavaScript 14.11.44 # <[IDC]Dragon2> 7.23 here 14.11.59 # <[IDC]Dragon2> I'll try firefox one day 14.12.06 # <[IDC]Dragon2> no time now 14.13.04 # it detects javascript in the login screen. reload it without javascript (and upgrade your opera...) 14.13.17 # 7.54 is the current version 14.13.38 Quit dwihno ("Prova en windows-lösning på problemet") 14.17.46 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 14.50.01 # <[IDC]Dragon2> I shoudn't use Opera here, it's not free for corporate use 14.50.14 # <[IDC]Dragon2> so I'll switch to Firefox 14.51.23 # nice that they are not MS only, as many others 14.59.45 Join FireDragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 14.59.59 # testing 15.00.13 # input line stays, yeah!# 15.00.18 # (oops) 15.00.53 # now 15.01.11 # i 15.01.14 # have 15.01.16 # to 15.01.19 # type 15.01.21 # some 15.01.24 # lines 15.01.27 # until 15.01.29 # it 15.01.32 # scrolls 15.01.47 # yes, it stays at the bottom! 15.02.00 # FireFox saved my day! 15.02.04 # great 15.02.17 Part [IDC]Dragon2 15.03.01 Ctcp Ignored 7 channel CTCP requests in 33 minutes and 57 seconds at the last flood 15.03.01 # * FireDragon deinstalls Opera 15.05.52 Part FireDragon 15.12.22 Quit webguest88 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 15.18.52 Join webguest95 [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 15.19.55 Quit webguest95 (Client Quit) 15.21.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.22.32 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 15.25.59 Join Bagder [241] (~dast@labb.contactor.se) 15.26.08 Join amiconn_cgi_ [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 15.26.46 # * Bagder has no archos anymore 15.27.28 # [IDC]Dragon: Mozilla 1.7 does have the same completion bug as Opera (using the last char only). Does Firefox do that too? It works in IE 6... 15.29.32 # * Bagder runs away 15.29.33 Part Bagder 15.30.01 Quit edx () 15.34.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: Firefox also takes only the last char 15.34.31 # amiconn: is it different in msie? 15.34.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> what's wrong with Bagder? 15.34.58 # his archos was stolen tonight 15.35.06 # last night 15.35.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> ohhhh 15.35.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> stolen? 15.35.38 # yup 15.35.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> under what circumstances? 15.36.25 # Zagor: Yes, in IE it uses all entered chars, in the right order 15.36.48 # [IDC]Dragon: take that with him next time. i don't know all the details. 15.39.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> just noticed: in firefox, the input box is very short 15.39.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> as small as with the colors on 15.41.45 DBUG Enqueued KICK [IDC]Dragon 15.41.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> t02t03y04i05n06g 15.49.58 Join webguest28 [0] (~d9e7eafc@labb.contactor.se) 15.50.44 Quit webguest28 (Client Quit) 15.51.01 # i'm off. see you all. 15.51.02 Part Zagor 15.51.27 # [IDC]Dragon: Same with Mozilla 1.7 15.52.02 # ...but not with IE 6 15.56.36 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.59.32 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.59.32 # * [IDC]Dragon wants IE6 16.00.14 Join ze [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-145.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 16.16.44 # [IDC]Dragon: wonder why you can't simply install that, since you obviously could install Firefox... 16.24.48 Join webguest86 [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 16.29.45 Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 16.37.54 Join jdeon [0] (~argh@66-74-204-211.san.rr.com) 16.39.40 Quit webguest86 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.39.45 Quit amiconn_cgi_ ("CGI:IRC") 16.40.30 # [IDC]Dragon: Strange: I now tried IE 5.5 on Win 2K Pro - works for me too 16.40.31 Join dstar5 [0] (Lee@ACC2115B.ipt.aol.com) 16.40.43 # hey [IDC]Dragon 16.40.48 Quit amiconn_cgi ("CGI:IRC") 16.41.21 # i sent the baord yesterday, and was said to be there in 4-7 days 16.46.59 # amiconn: is the vu meter patch going into rockbox soon? i amready to write documentation on it for twiki 16.57.02 # dstar5: I still have to look into it. I'm currently doing extensive recording tests 16.57.55 # ohh 17.10.11 # do i upload twiki docs in html? 17.21.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.28.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> dstar5: thank you very much for the board (I wan't paying attention to IRC) 17.28.21 # your welcome :) 17.28.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> s/wan't/wasn't 17.31.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> dstar5: how can I compensate you? 17.31.38 # nothing, it is a gift for spending so much time making stuff like the video player, and flashing, and everything :) 17.32.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> dstar5: thanks again. the order is interesting. 17.33.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> just curious: where did you get your new board? 17.35.08 # i got a new recorder on ebay 17.36.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> that's more than a board? 17.36.52 # my old recorder had some problems with the top board, and LCD 17.37.31 # the LCD was quiting sometimes, and the button board had bad button, getting hard to press 17.38.51 # ohh and i could no longer change with it also 17.38.56 # the chip got fired 17.39.02 # *fried 17.58.23 # i have the doc ready for the vu meter in the patches 17.58.26 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/twiki/bin/view/Main/LeePilgrim 18.00.45 Quit scott|sleep ("i'll be back...eventually...") 18.02.42 # bye! 18.02.44 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 19.00.23 # [IDC]Dragon: Are you around? 19.00.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> barely, almost leaving 19.01.05 # As you answered that question on the ml concerning rombox: 19.01.53 # Until now, the only difference between building ordinary rockbox and rombox is the linking 19.02.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> you want a compile flag, right? 19.03.01 # So imho there should be an option in the configure script to optionally create rombox.ucl _in addition_ to ajbrec.ajz and rockbox.ucl 19.03.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> by linking it twice? 19.03.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> good idea 19.03.39 # So the package would contaim both (and you need an .ajz anyway for flashing) 19.03.47 # Yes, linking twice 19.03.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes 19.03.55 # *contain 19.04.23 # And no, I don't want a compile flag (yet) 19.04.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> phew 19.04.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> me neither 19.05.14 # (Although this might be of use if some critical timing has to be adapted to the slower instruction flow from rom) 19.09.12 # Another thing that could cause problems with rombox: In case you ever decide to create new flash images with different start addresses, the linker script has to be adapted. If someone then mis-flashes an older rombox into a newer image or vice versa, it wouldn't run... 19.09.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> but this is reversible 19.09.48 # yes of course 19.10.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> it will be an issue if we go for a mini emergency rockbox in the first part 19.10.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> but before we consider that, the charging has to be bullet-proof 19.11.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> and the unformatted disk issue 19.11.19 # Although not a big one, because (imo) an emergency rockbox should try to load ajbrec.ajz by default 19.11.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> certainly 19.11.44 # Iirc the unformatted disk issue was fixed already 19.11.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> imho, it won't do much else 19.12.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> is fixed? well then 19.12.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> mini-rockbox should charge, have USB mode, and autostart ajbrec.ajz 19.13.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> no UI necessary 19.14.26 # Imho it should give some basic feedback on screen (no fancy graphics or selectable fonts necessary) 19.14.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> indications, yes 19.15.56 # I wonder what the problem with the charging is - and why the power thread only checks state once every minute 19.16.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> this is no "problem", it's by design 19.17.14 # The former or the latter? And, I asked _why_ 19.17.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> I didn't write it... 19.17.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> it has a couple of flaws, imho 19.18.22 # Some time ago Linus said the power thread should be changed to check state more frequently - once every second iirc 19.18.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> 1) if the charger is plugged in, it should be enabled from the start. If no charging is necessary, we can shut it of later. First assume, the user plugged it in for a reason. 19.19.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> 2) if the HD is on, we should enable it, too, regardless of state 19.20.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> 3) the algorithm itself looks overdrawn to me. We have no high current charger, can almost leave in on all the time without endangering the battery. 19.21.22 Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.21.28 # The problem with (1) might be to check the battery state, since the charging current significantly changes the voltage (in an indeterministic way) 19.21.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.21.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, but from 3) you see it's not really critical. 19.22.54 # I can't agree to (3). Iirc the max charging current is 300 mA which is C/5 for the default 1500 mAh batteries. This is definitely too much to be absorbed by the overcharge protection within the cells 19.23.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> 4) voltage measuremens are discarded when the HD is on. I think these are the most interesting ones, since the voltage is measured under load. 19.24.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> in 3) I said _almost_ ;-) 19.25.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> iirc, the Archos software of the player (which has no software charge control) switches on the HD to fight overcharge 19.25.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't think rockbox does that, too 19.25.47 # Certainly not an elegant solution... 19.26.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> but a clever idea to overcom hardware shortcomings 19.26.47 # I thought the charging is _controlled_ in hardware by the players, so overcharging would be prevented by a chip? 19.28.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm not sure what kind of circuit that is 19.32.34 # * [IDC]Dragon is leaving 19.32.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> cu later 19.32.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> (not today) 19.33.06 # bye [IDC]Dragon 19.33.35 Part [IDC]Dragon 19.52.45 Join dstar5 [0] (Lee@ACC3ED67.ipt.aol.com) 20.13.17 Join dstar5_cgi [0] (~acc3ed67@labb.contactor.se) 20.14.34 # niceness! 20.16.51 Quit dstar5_cgi (Client Quit) 20.25.53 Quit dstar5 ("Leaving") 20.31.46 Join gromit`` [0] (~gromit@ALagny-151-1-40-163.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.35.23 Join Vampiric-Youth [0] (~gdfgdf@wbs-205-194.telkomadsl.co.za) 20.35.35 # Hey guys, can any of you help me out? 20.36.08 Quit Vampiric-Youth (Client Quit) 20.59.35 Nick midk|sleep is now known as midk (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.15.00 Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 21.21.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.28.06 # reboot,brb 21.28.11 Quit midk ("Leaving") 21.46.48 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.55.40 Join dstar5 [0] (Lee@ACC09A08.ipt.aol.com) 22.00.46 Join Lee_ [0] (Lee@ACC492DD.ipt.aol.com) 22.03.41 Join miner49er [0] (~chatzilla@82-32-44-78.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 22.06.30 # Hey there! Anyone ata ll familer with the Multimedia or more specifically the backlight wich is a CCFL lamp? 22.19.19 Quit dstar5 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.23.46 Quit Lee_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.30.29 Quit miner49er ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040514]") 22.57.02 Quit gromit`` ("Client exiting") 23.21.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.32.04 # b rb 23.32.10 Quit midk ("just STOP it arspy") 23.33.47 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 23.34.49 Nick midk is now known as midk|quakeIII (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com)