--- Log for 16.08.104 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 2 days and 14 hours ago 00.15.21 Join webguest03 [0] (~4120defa@labb.contactor.se) 00.16.08 Quit webguest03 (Client Quit) 00.16.15 Join webguest63 [0] (~4120defa@labb.contactor.se) 00.16.31 Quit webguest63 (Client Quit) 00.18.32 Quit Ka (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.18.32 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.19.34 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.19.34 NJoin Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 01.15.51 Quit scott666_ ("i'll be back...eventually...") 01.23.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.33.59 Join Smooth [0] (909510b8@ACBFA99E.ipt.aol.com) 03.23.05 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 04.21.24 Quit mbr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.21.25 Quit Smooth (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.49.14 Join edx{code} [0] (edx@p54879837.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.03.46 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.03.58 Nick edx{code} is now known as edx (edx@p54879837.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.23.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.30.04 Quit edx () 07.17.01 Join midk [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 07.22.57 Quit gromit`` (Remote closed the connection) 07.23.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.26.07 Join gromit`` [0] (~gromit@ALagny-151-1-38-227.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 07.47.37 Join madman [0] (~456f10bf@labb.contactor.se) 07.49.14 Quit madman (Client Quit) 07.50.06 Join Madman [0] (~madmangor@69.111.16.191) 07.56.13 Quit Madman () 08.44.41 Join Bagder [241] (~dast@labb.contactor.se) 08.48.18 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 08.48.18 # * Bagder is rockboxless 08.52.11 # dah!? why? 08.52.21 # it was stolen on friday 08.52.53 # ah, crap, sorry... where at/from? 08.52.59 # someone entered my house during the night 08.53.14 # and stole a bunch of things, including my archos 08.53.48 # :-( 08.53.59 # the Archos is the hardest to replace 08.54.13 # whoa... 08.54.27 # :[ 09.23.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.39.01 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7EF22.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.04.18 Join Madman [0] (~madmangor@69.111.16.191) 10.04.46 # has anybody in here upgraded their hard drive? 10.05.14 # amiconn, i believe 10.05.31 # ya, but i dont think he is awake 10.05.59 # just entered 25 minutes before you 10.06.09 # oh, ok 10.06.48 # i remember him saying that he upgraded his hd to 80 gigs, and i was thinking about doing something like that 10.07.07 # it's not too hard 10.07.35 # yeah, but i still need to know what kind of hd to buy 10.07.49 # someone told me that the archos uses a laptop hd 10.08.16 # it does 10.08.21 # look at the site, there's info 10.08.27 # ok 10.11.37 # Madman: I'm here 10.12.31 # hey, i was thinking about upgrading my HD, but im not sure the type of HD to get 10.13.10 # i was reading on your site about the RPMs, but i never saw an exact number that would be good 10.14.37 # 4200 is good 10.15.03 # I suggest staying at the lowest rpm available (4200 currently). Higher rpm values only increase battery drain; rockbox is much slower in reading than any sufficiently recent hd could deliver the data 10.15.45 # I further suggest to stay away from the Hitach DK.. series. These often produce problems with the Archos hardware 10.17.42 # Some people reported problems with Toshiba OEM drives too 10.17.59 # where did you buy your 80 gig one? 10.19.11 # nite all 10.19.28 # nite 10.21.05 # amiconn: does the buffer matter at all? 10.21.24 # No 10.21.50 # im seeing a 2mb and an 8mb buffer 10.22.02 # Personally I use the former IBM (now also Hitachi) IC25 series - with no problems so far 10.23.24 # IC25N080ATMR-04, to be precise. I bought it at Mix (a German online computer vendor) 10.24.52 # i was reading a mail on the site and it said that some people have reported problems with the travelstar, have you had any? 10.25.48 Nick midk is now known as midk|sleep (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 10.27.12 # im guessing no.. 10.32.07 # No, but the name "travelstar" isn't precise enough anyway, since _all_ IBM 2,5" hds are called travelstar 10.34.07 # ok maybe they were talking about a different type 10.34.29 # for some reason the 5400 rpm ones are cheaper 10.35.56 # strange 10.36.05 # 80 gb 4200RPM disk would be nice 10.36.25 # Although I have no need for it :) 10.37.19 # i wonder if there is a way to fix the archos recorder 20's usb 2.0 problem 10.37.42 # dwihno: I have that 10.38.22 # Madman: What usb 2.0 problem? I happen to have that exact model, and didn't observe any usb problem 10.38.24 # * Bagder bids on a new archos on ebay 10.38.44 # amiconn: is it cute? :) 10.38.46 # amiconn: and sexy? 10.38.56 # well, its not really a problem, its an inconvenience. 10.39.06 # amiconn: I bet it spins just like a kitten :-) 10.39.20 # it doesnt go the max speed of usb 2.0 10.39.39 # Madman: not many devices use max speed 10.39.41 # My USB2 controller is slow... I only get speeds around 10 mbyte/s 10.39.53 # Might be the fact it's cardbus 10.40.00 # Bagder: what do you think? 10.40.39 # don't know, I don't remember how fast the archos is 10.40.40 # From what I read in tests most usb2-to-ata bridges don't go above ~30 mbyte/s. However, in the Archos I guess the drive is the limiting factor anywa 10.40.44 # y 10.40.59 # At work, the controller tops at 20 mbyte/sec 10.48.17 # amiconn: would this work? http://www.baber.com/drives/internal_hard_drives/laptops/fujitsu_mhn2200at_specs.htm 10.50.09 # Madman: I should do, however, this is only 20 GB (?) 10.51.10 # im filling up my hd with mostly data, so i was thinking of having one for data and one for music. 10.51.42 # plus, it looks like i can get it for like $30 10.52.56 # YOu then would have to swap the drives all the time... 10.53.05 # Get 1 big disk instead 10.53.31 # Since I connect my Archos at work, I always keep my work stuff synchronized 10.53.33 # Pretty neat really. 10.54.17 # Although the charging cycles might shorten the battery life. 10.54.30 # yeah im thinking about that now... 10.54.31 # (but who cares - rechargable AA batts aren't that expensive) 10.54.44 # how long should they last? 10.54.56 # I've changed the set every year. 10.55.24 # the batteries, cause ive had mine for 1 year and they work fine 10.56.25 # Well, I still use the batteries for other handheld devices :) 10.56.38 # One of the reasons for my batt uppgrades has been higher mAh rating. 10.57.00 # but i think the life in hours is going down after each charge 10.57.05 # mAh? 10.57.46 # The stock batteries are 1500mAh... I keep a set of 2300mAh. 10.58.30 # dwihno, how many hours do you usually get from one charge? 10.59.04 # Madman: Dunno... I would guess around 10 hours or so. 10.59.16 # Madman: I usually charge before the batteries are empty 11.00.27 # the first time i got my jukebox, i couldnt wait to use it, so i turned it on after 30 minutes of charging for the first time and drained the batteries back down pretty fast 11.00.37 # im not sure if its bad for it or not 11.01.26 # Regarding consumer devices, you SHOULD allow the first charge to proceed without interruption 11.01.36 # (I KNOW how hard it is) :) 11.01.53 # I plugged it in and turned it on. 11.03.32 # i was thinking about selling my jukebox a while ago, but i decided to research ways to upgrade it and found rockbox. 11.03.47 # now it will never leave my grasp :) 11.03.57 # I actually got the unit because of this channel. 11.04.15 # cool 11.05.10 # which type do you have? 11.05.48 # Recorder 20 11.05.51 # With a 60 gbyte disk 11.06.08 # When I got the unit, there was no sound on the target :) 11.06.13 # Only a file browser 11.06.25 # (which also showed directories I had deleted) :) 11.06.32 # But that was aeons ago. 11.07.00 # Hooray for Daniel, Björn, Linus (and the rest of you) for keeping the ball rolling! 11.07.42 # have you ever opened yours? 11.08.48 # A couple of times. 11.09.03 # I've dusted the inside. I also replaced the disk by myself. 11.09.31 # So the old 20 gbyte doubles as a source archive backup :) 11.09.38 # i opened mine once, dusted, and you know the on/off piece of plastic? 11.09.45 # yep 11.10.15 # well, that broke, so now the "on" button turns upside down and says "no" 11.10.34 # ironicly, when it says "no" the button doesnt work 11.11.57 # :-) 11.11.59 # i need to glue it back together 11.12.29 # How did you break it? 11.13.57 # its very fragile aparently, and the piece of plastic connecting the on and off bent like a noodle 11.14.24 # i attempted to lift it to put it back in, but then it became two pieces 11.14.43 # What model do you have? 11.16.04 # same as you 11.16.13 # recorder 20 11.16.46 # ive had it for a year today... 11.17.06 # the only reason i know that is because i bought it on my birthday. 11.17.24 # ah 11.18.43 # not many people remember the exact date when they bought something. 11.19.12 # I bought mine during may. 11.19.21 # Two years ago 11.19.40 # Just a couple of days later, Linus "the wizard" achieved playback on target! 11.20.28 # do you have the daily builds, or do you use the old "stable" version 11.20.55 # I keep a fairly recent cvs copy. When I see something interesting, I upgrade. 11.22.13 # me too. 11.23.00 # Got any interesting ideas you want implemented? 11.23.16 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 11.23.51 # i have a few, you? 11.24.22 # Yeah. I haven't had the time (or taken the time) to get it done. 11.24.34 # I usually do my coding around the christmas holiday :) 11.33.18 Join edx [0] (edx@p54879837.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.39.47 Quit Madman () 13.15.53 Quit edx () 13.23.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.53.26 Join hernest [0] (~ju@82.67.68.29) 14.20.10 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~knoppix@p508778F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.20.30 # Bagder: Are you interested in a broken recorder, too? 14.24.10 Join edx [0] (edx@p54879837.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.26.48 # Hm. Bagder seems to have starved to death from his lack of Jukeboxes :( 14.52.14 Quit edx (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.01.03 # * Bagder awakes 15.01.11 # looong meeting 15.01.37 # kurzhaarrocker: I'm not sure yet, I'm primarily trying to get myself a working one 15.04.07 # brb 15.07.23 # I still have a half broken unit around. It seems to have some broken data / adress wires which I wasn't able to track down. It works for some time but the occasionally pops up weired errors. 15.08.10 # And most of the buttons are broken. 15.10.37 # Bagder Bagder Bagder Bagder mushroom mushroom \o/ :) 15.12.10 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.12.13 # * Bagder does the secret mushroom dance 15.12.45 # :) 15.12.50 # \o/ 15.12.52 # _o_ 15.12.53 # \o/ 15.12.53 # _o_ 15.12.57 # :) 15.13.02 # yeps, that's how it looks ;-) 15.13.39 # looks like a failed attempt to fly birdlike to me 15.14.10 # ok, I may have to practise more 15.16.27 # and my dect phone is out of production 15.17.04 # * kurzhaarrocker doesn't know dect phones 15.17.04 # Is that something like the Batmans BatPhone? 15.19.10 # slightly similar, as my wife uses it to call me home ;-) 15.20.30 # Does it feature a filter? Something that can distinguish whether she calls you home for dinner or for mowing the lawn? 15.23.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.24.33 # I wish ;-) 15.28.44 Part kurzhaarrocker 16.34.45 Part Bagder 16.53.20 Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 17.23.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.28.44 Join maikeul [0] (~gromit@ALagny-151-1-7-138.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.37.16 Quit gromit`` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.42.39 Part Zagor 17.43.34 Quit maikeul ("Client exiting") 17.53.59 Join gromit`` [0] (~gromit@ALagny-151-1-7-138.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.44.31 Nick midk|sleep is now known as midk (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 18.46.09 Join sethians [0] (~c857557c@labb.contactor.se) 18.54.04 Join bockrox [0] (~d9e7ef22@labb.contactor.se) 18.54.25 # * midk suspects bagder 18.56.09 Quit bockrox (Client Quit) 19.03.29 Join bockrox [0] (~d9e7ef22@labb.contactor.se) 19.03.50 Part bockrox 19.03.59 Quit Ka (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.03.59 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 19.05.49 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 19.05.49 NJoin Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp04776551pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 19.16.46 Quit sethians ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.23.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.30.38 Join maikeul [0] (~gromit@ALagny-151-1-7-138.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.30.39 Quit gromit`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.57.26 Quit Hadaka ("leaving") 20.11.20 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-73-15.dynamic.qsc.de) 20.16.26 Quit maikeul ("Client exiting") 20.19.20 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 20.19.58 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@naked.iki.fi) 20.20.31 Join gromit`` [0] (~gromit@ALagny-151-1-7-138.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.41.56 Join de [0] (~uski@gandalf.digital-network.org) 20.42.14 Nick de is now known as uski (~uski@gandalf.digital-network.org) 21.07.05 Quit midk (Remote closed the connection) 21.07.18 Join midk [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 21.20.10 Join Smooth [0] (909510b8@ACBC02C7.ipt.aol.com) 21.23.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.28.26 # smoothy 21.28.31 # they have a new gmini out 21.31.41 # !smoothy 21.31.48 # my laptop and my digital camera have been stolen. 21.31.52 # :| 21.37.29 Quit midk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.37.42 Join midk [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 22.02.45 Join Hadaka_ [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 22.05.42 # hi uski 22.05.45 # i know 22.05.48 # what the gmini is 22.06.25 # im pleased my bug report got Fixed 22.06.47 # :)) 22.06.55 # the good thing with rockbox is that BUGS ARE FIXED ! 22.07.08 # unlike many brand's firmwares 22.07.18 # it seems that big companies don't care about bugs 22.09.00 # Smooth, but did you see the new one? 22.10.22 # not yed midknight 22.11.42 # bloody hell u can play games as well! 22.11.43 Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.12.41 Join mecraw [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 22.13.40 # heh 22.15.16 # to be honest im not overly keen on colour screens on MP3 players 22.15.56 # looks interesting though 22.16.32 # archos seems to be a step ahead of a few companies in terms of hardware and gadgetry, but they need a better firmware team :] 22.16.40 # yea 22.16.51 # For some reasons i don't like colour screens on MP3 devices 22.17.02 # i think colour screens make a device look like a kid's toy 22.17.30 # you sounded ecstatic about gaming on it :D 22.18.01 # no im not 22.18.07 # happier playing Tetris on the archos 22.20.11 # the gmini is an archos too 22.20.54 # yes 22.23.15 # http://www.archos.com/products/overview/gmini_400_interface.html 22.23.18 # "AVOS" ?!! 22.24.06 # ? 22.24.16 # WTF 22.25.29 Quit Hadaka_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.27.11 # * uski won't buy an archos again 22.28.27 Join Hadaka_ [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 22.47.13 Join sciurius [0] (~chatzilla@sioban.squirrel.nl) 22.59.37 Nick sciurius is now known as sciurius_ (~chatzilla@sioban.squirrel.nl) 23.00.53 Nick sciurius_ is now known as sciurius (~chatzilla@sioban.squirrel.nl) 23.07.40 Quit sciurius ("Chatzilla 0.9.64a [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040630]") 23.10.29 Join sciurius [0] (~chatzilla@sioban.squirrel.nl) 23.14.47 Quit sciurius ("Chatzilla 0.9.64a [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040630]") 23.22.20 Join sciurius [0] (~chatzilla@sioban.squirrel.nl) 23.23.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.26.18 Join potto [0] (potto@die.painfully.org) 23.27.17 Quit sciurius ("Chatzilla 0.9.64a [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040630]") 23.28.16 # hullo 23.28.21 # i have a jukebox 20 fm recorder 23.28.29 # went for a run with it today and after about 5 minutes it just stopped playing ? 23.28.41 # is that normal ? as in it cant read from the hard drive cos its jiggling around ? 23.30.46 # potto: Was the red LED constantly lit when this occurred? 23.31.32 # yep 23.31.37 # RLOD ! 23.31.42 # Red Led Of Death 23.31.44 # i get it in the car at times too 23.31.51 # music stops and light goes red 23.31.56 # then it`ll come back on in 20 seconds or something 23.32.01 # hmm 23.34.12 # gotta go 23.34.13 # see ya 23.34.15 Quit uski ("Leaving") 23.34.20 # potto: RLOD happens quite often with some harddisk models. It is nothing we can prevent completely, it even happens with Archow firmware 23.34.38 # ok 23.34.46 # but ideally i should be able to run with a hard drive player ? 23.34.51 # i mean, it is possible 23.34.57 # You could look up what disk model you have under Info->Debug (Keep Out!)->View disk info 23.35.26 # hitachi 23.35.31 # Dk23DA? 23.35.44 # indeed 23.36.09 # How did I know ?! 23.37.08 # Almost all RLOD experiences are reported by users with that disk model :( 23.37.19 # oh ok 23.37.39 # think i`ll get a memory mp3 player for running anyway 23.37.44 # archos is a bit big to run with :) 23.37.52 # But anyway, using a harddisk based mp3 player for activities where it gets shaken heavily is not a good idea 23.38.01 # (But in-car use should be np) 23.38.21 # man i love the thing for in the car 23.38.31 # stick 20 gig of albums on and have it play a new one for every drive :p 23.40.53 # Yup. That reminds me I should finally solder the aux-in adapter to use my Archos with my new car stereo. Listening mp3 from SD card is no fun :( 256 MB, and I can barely fit 2 albums on it 23.42.57 # lol headphones that came with my archos are so shit 23.43.00 # i just order some koss sporta pros