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00.27.31 #       <amiconn> hi LinusN
00.32.48 #       <LinusN> hi
00.34.18 #       <amiconn> Did you read about the outcome of my recording test with the archos firmware?
00.34.28 #       <LinusN> yes, it worked perfectly
00.35.02 #       <amiconn> Obviously we are doing something wrong within rockbox... we "just" have to find out what it is :-/
00.35.48 #       <LinusN> yup
00.39.48 #       <amiconn> On a somewhat related topic: My guess of the i2c timing with the current implementation was most likely wrong (forgot to take the wait cycles into account)
00.40.18 #       <LinusN> ok
00.40.29 #       <LinusN> i'll do some analysis anyway
00.41.58 #       <amiconn> With the wait cycles the clk=H time should be within the i2c "fast" specs (i2c docs say >0.6 µs)
00.43.17 #       <amiconn> I guess the i2c driver wouldn't work at all if it were different.
00.43.39 #       <amiconn> But the mas specs say the mas wants >1.25 µs ...
00.44.15 #       <LinusN> we should probably stay within the mas specs
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00.58.32 #       <amiconn> LinusN: From the mp3 frame headers I found that the archos fw disables MS stereo encoding, rockbox doesn't. I don't know if this is important...
01.00.03 #       <LinusN> you could always try disabling it
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01.22.48 #       <amiconn> LinusN: I'm currently experimenting with soft resetting the mas (via bits 11 and 10 in MAS_CONTROL). My intention is to replace the current hard reset for switching between playback and recording by soft reset, and do the hard reset at power up only.
01.23.20 #       <LinusN> ok
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01.24.37 #       <amiconn> As there has to be some delay after a hard reset before the mas is ready to accept commands, but I don't want to build the delay into the hard reset routine, I'd like to place the hard reset early into the init.
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01.25.46 #       <amiconn> I wonder if it would be enough to place it really early, and rely on that enough time has passed when playback is initialized?
01.35.23 #       <LinusN> please refresh my memory, how long should the delay be?
01.36.05 #       <amiconn> I couldn't find a figure in the mas docs; the current implementation uses 200 ms
01.39.57 #       <LinusN> and you want to save 200ms by "hiding" the delay in the init code? why?
01.43.22 #       <LinusN> did you see the latest msg in the mailing list?
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01.48.43 #       <amiconn> LinusN: I want to hide the delay because then the delay might be even longer, without increasing boot time. Refer to my finding how extending the delay lowers the percentage of failures when running from rom and try to record...
01.49.22 #       <amiconn> And yes, I did read the message meanwhile. I'd really like to get rid of all those recording anomalies...
01.49.34 #       <LinusN> then do the reset right after starting the kernel, and use a timestamp
01.50.14 #       <amiconn> I saw that the main init does have a 500 ms delay anyway...
01.50.26 #       <LinusN> so when you access the mas for the first time, check the timestamp and wait some more if necessary
01.58.13 #       <amiconn> ...argh, wrong.
01.58.22 #       <amiconn> A completely different thing: Your changes for default_event_handler() broke the special mode of bounce.rock, invoked by the ON key before :(
01.59.20 #       <LinusN> oops
02.03.22 #       * LinusN fears the rage of hundreds of disappointed users who can't run bounce.rock properly anymore
02.03.40 #       <amiconn> ;)
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02.18.12 #       <jdeon> hello linus!
02.18.19 #       <jdeon> I always type your name linux and then change it :)
02.18.29 #       <LinusN> me too :-)
02.18.39 #       <jdeon> when are you back from vacation?
02.18.54 #       <LinusN> august 30
02.19.00 #       <jdeon> wow, long break!
02.19.13 #       <jdeon> wish I could take a vacation, but alas, must save it for the holidays.
02.23.24 #       <amiconn> LinusN: I just found another bug - loading a .cfg file stops playback, but you could still go to the wps: time doesn't count up then, and pause/play doesn't help...
02.24.08 #       <LinusN> wonderful
02.24.16 #       <LinusN> any cfg file?
02.24.34 #       <LinusN> or is it only affected by specific settings?
02.26.22 #       <amiconn> It does happen with all 4 .cfg files I have on disk
02.30.52 #       <LinusN> gotta sleep now, cu around
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03.57.11 #       <Strath> #gmemu
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03.57.39 #       <ajiuO> oh
03.57.43 #       <Strath> the channel we talk about gmini stufff in :)
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10.08.41 #       <adtheman> hello anyone in here?
10.08.57 #       <midk> yep
10.09.00 #       <midk> for a moment
10.09.21 #       <adtheman> jus a quick question
10.09.38 #       <adtheman> dyou where i can dnload compiled plugins for rockbox
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10.10.04 #       <midk> uh
10.10.12 #       <midk> in the release package of rockbox
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10.22.54 #       <Bagder> howdy
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10.36.51 #       <Bagder> night
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20.54.36 #       <jorbond> anyone on here know how to help with a hdd problem
20.55.00 #       <jorbond> i dropped my jukebox and it broke the hdd so i opened it up
20.55.08 #       <jorbond> the head was stuck and i unstuck it
20.55.21 #       <jorbond> but this little metal arm fell out and i dont know where it goes lol
20.55.29 #       <jorbond> and all the head does it go in and out now
20.56.42 #       <midk> you opened the hard drive?
20.56.45 #       <jorbond> yeah
20.57.05 #       <midk> hmm... heh, it's 99% likely not to work anymore
20.57.12 #       <jorbond> we will see
20.57.15 #       <midk> if just a speck of dust gets in there it can ruin it
20.57.44 #       <jorbond> ok we are not that far yet
20.58.08 #       <jorbond> i just need to find out where this little metal thing goes and then we can see who was right lol
20.59.00 #       <midk> ok, i've got no idea, there are hundreds of 'little metal things' in the archos.
20.59.18 #       <jorbond> any pictures
21.00.09 #       <midk> of what?
21.01.01 #       <jorbond> the inside of the hdd
21.03.02 #       <midk> do i have?
21.03.05 #       <midk> no, of course not, not many people dismantle them.
21.03.17 #       <midk> if you have a picture of the 'metal thing' i may be able to give a suggestion
21.05.10 #       <jorbond> nope
21.05.50 #       <midk> get pic of hd... identify part maybe?
21.06.53 #       <jorbond> i didnt see that piece on the pics i found on google
21.07.12 #       <midk> ignore it i guess
21.07.20 #       <jorbond> http://images.soliton.net/ibm/Dead%20Drives%2004%20Laptop%20Inside.jpg
21.07.20 #       <midk> i can more or less guarantee it won't work anyways
21.07.34 #       <jorbond> now see the metal part on the bottom left of it
21.07.58 #       <midk> sort of long. goes around the corner?
21.08.02 #       <jorbond> the shiny metal arm
21.08.03 #       <jorbond> yeah
21.08.07 #       <jorbond> that is what fell out
21.08.19 #       <midk> well put it back! :)
21.08.32 #       <midk> you can probably ignore it if it won
21.08.44 #       <midk> doesn't look like it serves much of a purpose
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22.48.27 #       <webguest12> Hello all
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