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00.00.19 #       <webguest82> a search for "hardware" showed nothing like that.
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00.25.05 #       <bagawk> hey bagawk 
00.25.13 #       <bagawk> i mean BC 
00.25.13 #       <bagawk> hehe
00.25.22 #       <BC> lol - hey bag man :)
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00.28.55 #       <scott666_> were going through webguests like nothing
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00.29.11 #       <webguest97> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48683&item=5720447428&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
00.29.21 #       <webguest97> broken ihp-120
00.29.47 #       <scott666> indeed
00.29.57 #       <bagawk> how much?
00.30.02 #       <scott666> High bidder:     zagor101
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00.30.08 #       <BC> webguest: 10"@labb.contactor.se01" ...hmmm
00.30.34 #       <webguest97> ok, just wanted to let y'all know.
00.30.47 #       <scott666> zagor's already found it
00.32.26 #       <bagawk> lol
00.32.27 #       <bagawk> :)
00.33.02 #       <webguest97> I logged in earlier to ask about my usb problem. 
00.33.40 #       <webguest97> Is there anywhere to look for hardware recommendations/features? (www)
00.33.54 #       <BC> what is your problem?
00.34.11 #       <webguest97> I bought the recorder10
00.34.20 #       <PaulS> Were you the guy with the PC you couldn't install drivers on?
00.34.21 #       <webguest97> should have gotten the 20
00.34.28 #       <webguest97> PaulS: yup.
00.34.42 #       <webguest97> I wish I had known in advance.
00.35.03 #       <bagawk> ouch :P
00.35.06 #       <webguest97> I bought the device specifically for rockbox.
00.35.20 #       <BC> so your problem is "cannot install XP drivers"?
00.35.26 #       <webguest97> It'll still work fine under linux.
00.35.44 #       <webguest97> My problem is "must have admin" :(
00.36.00 #       <BC> download an admin hack disk from somwehere?
00.36.05 #       <webguest97> I wanted to copy files off it to a cd at work.
00.36.07 #       <bagawk> i have one if those :)
00.36.26 #       <webguest97> Not worth getting into trouble for.
00.36.27 #       <PaulS> He doesn't have admin access to his work machine, but his recorder 10 needs a non-standard usb-storage driver.  But he likes RockBox enough to get another Archos, so he's asking for recommendations.
00.37.11 #       <webguest97> I didn't realise there were any other differences between 10 & 20 besides storage.
00.37.26 #       <webguest97> Should this be in the FAQ?
00.37.27 #       <BC> oh righty - buy a "Archos Jukebox Recorder 20 Version 1"
00.37.43 #       <webguest97> I was SO close. :)
00.37.45 #       <BC> 20 has usb 2.0 on an (iirc) isd-300 chip
00.37.56 #       <BC> the 10 is usb 1.1 on a (iirc) isd-200 chip
00.38.02 #       <webguest97> Faster transfers are good.
00.38.20 #       <webguest97> Is there a max HD size limit?
00.38.29 #       <PaulS> webguest97: People don't tend to assume people can't install drivers on Windows.  I don't think I've bought a piece of hardware in the last couple of years that didn't come with a "driver disk" whether or not it was needed.
00.38.31 #       <webguest97> Or will any drive work?
00.38.43 #       <BC> yes ...but it's bigger than any currently available drive (that I am aware of)
00.38.52 #       <webguest97> I hate windows.
00.39.08 #       <webguest97> I left Microsoft when Win95 came out.
00.39.15 #       <BC> did you ask your sysop for help?
00.39.20 #       <PaulS> (Never mind the fact that I never opened these disks, since the drivers are always either antiquated or don't apply to the (usually non-Windows) operating system I'm running)
00.39.31 #       <webguest97> sysop :) how old are you?
00.39.35 #       <BC> too
00.40.02 #       <BC> i could really date myself and speak of the BOFH
00.40.22 #       <BC> ...and fidonet - LOL
00.40.28 #       <webguest97> Ok, you'd appreciate my new (to me) computer then.
00.40.39 #       <webguest97> SGI Indigo2
00.40.51 #       <BC> kewl :)
00.40.51 #       <webguest97> I'm gonna try to put debian on it.
00.40.57 #       <BC> LOL
00.40.59 #       <PaulS> My SGI O2 is still sitting in the corner of my office.
00.41.30 #       <webguest97> I also have a sun IPX case that'd make a great Mini-ITX machine.
00.41.33 #       <BC> I had to turn down one of those about 6 months back - no more room :(
00.41.41 #       <BC> ^^^ SGI
00.42.06 #       <webguest97> My first machine was a timex-sinclair w/2k ram.
00.42.10 #       <BC> A good friend of mine still has PDP in his back room
00.42.35 #       <BC> my first was the Sinclair ZX81 with 1K ....I missed the ZX80 with only 256bytes
00.42.56 #       <webguest97> No on/off switch, and a 1bit I/O
00.43.23 #       <webguest97> the same bit ran the display and the cassette.
00.43.31 #       <BC> LOL
00.43.42 #       <midk> HAHA
00.43.56 #       <webguest97> The archos is huge and powerful by comparison.
00.44.28 #       <BC> it makes me laugh when people say you could not run doom on it
00.44.38 #       <BC> they pretty much have doom running on the Spectrum now
00.45.14 #       <webguest97> I'm amazed at what determined hackers can accomplish.
00.46.02 #       <webguest97> I just hope enough hardware is open enough so this sort of thing can go on.
00.46.27 #       <BC> Get your stop-watch ready, the Nintendo DS is due out soon
00.47.13 #       <bagawk> :P
00.47.16 #       <bagawk> me want PSP
00.49.02 #       <BC> you would likely enjoy the "winnerdemo" for the PC
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00.49.40 #       <BC> http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=8780
00.53.28 #       <webguest97> :)I 
00.53.41 #       <webguest97> gotta go, long drive ahead.
00.54.03 #       <webguest97> plenty tunes thanks to rockbox. Thanks!
00.54.09 #       <BC> byee
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01.01.56 #       <amiconn> BC: you rc.
01.02.13 #       <BC> really cold?
01.02.35 #       <amiconn> remember correctly. Just read up the discussion, was busy coding before
01.02.48 #       <BC> ahh, cool - thanks
01.02.52 #       <BC> lol
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01.45.13 #       <bagawk> bye
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11.49.00 #       <webguest65> hi guys
11.49.14 #       <webguest65> What can you say about the status of the H Series port?
11.51.38 #       <webguest65> ?
11.54.38 #       <dwihno> linus has got a wiggler to investigate more throughly
11.57.09 #       <webguest65> what is the status? when can we see the first working code?
11.58.43 #       <dwihno> dunno, if ever
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12.01.00 #       <dwihno> now that's an attitude I don't like
12.01.14 #       <dwihno> "gimme gimme gimme"
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17.51.38 #       <elinenbe> bonjour
17.53.33 #       <midk> yo
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18.13.56 #       <midk> zeeee
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18.18.51 #       <qwm> salut.
18.18.58 #       <qwm> mangez mes mères.
18.23.59 #       <qwm> je vous déteste des types! vous êtes un déshonneur de ma famille!
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19.30.48 #       <midk> reboot again brb
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21.33.20 #       <_aLF> hi
21.42.47 #       <Zagor> hi
21.43.58 #       <dwihno> hej
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22.01.21 #       <Zagor> howdy linus. had time to wiggle any?
22.01.59 #       <LinusN> nope, family takes a lot of time and energy
22.02.12 #       <Zagor> yeah
22.02.51 #       <LinusN> i can't find the TEA signal on the pcb, can you?
22.03.36 #       <Zagor> looking...
22.04.35 #       <dwihno> LinusN: got the shift key fixed... although cleaning the entire keyboard will be a two week project
22.04.38 #       <LinusN> it's not crucial
22.04.44 #       <LinusN> dwihno: nice
22.05.25 #       <Zagor> could it be under the isd300 board?
22.05.37 #       <LinusN> dwihno: saw your chat with the nice fellow asking for the iriver status :-)
22.06.09 #       <dwihno> LinusN: I got a bit pissed off, to be honest
22.06.33 #       <dwihno> On the behalf of you hard working guys
22.06.51 #       <LinusN> :-)
22.09.55 #       <Zagor> mmm, I seem to have misplaced my player :(
22.14.04 #       <Zagor> ahh, found it
22.14.35 #       <elinenbe> LinusN: how is the wiggling going?
22.14.47 #       <Zagor> LinusN: bring out your spare 34063 :)
22.16.07 #       <LinusN> Zagor: just give me the player
22.16.18 #       <Zagor> yup
22.16.25 #       <LinusN> elinenbe: haven't started
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22.20.00 #       <benschi> hey whatz up guys
22.20.10 #       <benschi> any news, about the iriver work?
22.21.23 #       <Zagor> benschi: nothing exciting. this will take a long time.
22.22.34 #       <benschi> i know.. but, any special news?
22.22.50 #       <Zagor> nope :)
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22.36.49 #       <Zagor> the player sim screen update is annoyingly slow
22.37.32 #       <LinusN> oh yes, that's partly my fault
22.37.58 #       <Zagor> what is taking so long?
22.38.24 #       <LinusN> i added an lcd_update() call some time ago, because the lcd isn't updated when i should be
22.38.34 #       <uski> LinusN, i sent you a package 2 days ago ;)
22.38.37 #       <LinusN> s/i/it
22.38.41 #       <uski> sorry not to have sent it before :(
22.38.46 #       <LinusN> uski: thanks
22.39.15 #       <LinusN> there is no lcd_update() for the plöyer you know
22.39.18 #       <Zagor> so it updates once for each char? each pixel?
22.39.33 #       <LinusN> each char, i think
22.39.57 #       <Zagor> it completely kills remote X performance. 60kb/s sustained...
22.40.08 #       <LinusN> i can imagine that
22.40.16 #       <LinusN> why remote?
22.40.48 #       <Zagor> because I have lots of code on labb that I don't want to check in yet. and I also avoid copying back and forth, to avoid mistakes
22.41.07 #       <LinusN> i see
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22.55.34 #       <Zagor> does anyone want a neo player to hack on? mine is collecting dust...
22.56.08 #       <uski> what kind of hacks can be perfomed on these ? :)
22.56.14 #       <uski> i was considering buying an Ondio
22.56.39 #       <Zagor> the neos are pretty much like the archos players
22.56.49 #       <Zagor> i have the in-car model
22.57.46 #       <Zagor> very first-generation hardware
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23.51.44 #       <Zagor> actually we might not want to have a CONFIG_LCD define instead of HAVE_LCD
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23.51.58 #       <Zagor> since it would make all types exclusive
23.52.25 #       <Zagor> we are soon going to have a grayscale lcd, and perhaps later colour ones
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23.52.57 #       <Zagor> should those not use be LCD_BITMAP ?
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23.58.49 #       <LinusN> Zagor: there will probably be several levels