--- Log for 24.10.104 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 4 hours ago 00.20.49 # [IDC]Dragon: It's not too difficult to filter the IDs which need aggressive clipping. These are VOICE_* (except the pause), LANG_MONTH_* and LANG_PM_UNITS_PER_READ 00.27.26 Join ripnetUK [0] (~mirc@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 00.29.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> why not filter them all "agressively"? clicks? 00.31.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> LANG_PM_UNITS_PER_READ becuase a number is in front? 00.31.53 # Yes, clicks and sometimes swallowed beginning (try "Grundeinstellungen" in german. It sounds like "Rundeinstellungen") 00.32.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> haha 00.33.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> and there's no better threshold? 00.34.29 # Not with the AT&T voices. I use a threshold of 150, quite close to the noise floor. For MS voices, I can use 0 anyway 00.36.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> seems MS is truely synthesized, vs. AT&T is sampled 00.38.56 Quit scott666_ (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 00.39.37 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 00.40.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> goodnight! 00.40.53 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 00.45.29 Quit Leboff_ (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 00.55.39 Quit ripnetUK () 01.08.01 Quit thegeek (Read error: 238 (Connection timed out)) 01.08.57 Join thegeek [0] (thegeek@ti521110a080-0032.bb.online.no) 01.22.52 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7FB0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.23.06 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 01.23.12 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7FB0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.28.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.30.04 # wow. it took 6m30s for the mailing list to send me my own mail... 01.31.46 # Do you mean 6m30s until you got your own mail echoed back? That's in fact fast, sometimes it takes several hours for me... 01.32.06 # yeah that's what I mean 01.45.24 Quit _aLF ("Leaving") 01.51.04 Join bagawk [0] (~80c10006@labb.contactor.se) 02.02.27 Quit bagawk ("CGI:IRC") 02.06.50 # Argh! lame (at least 3.96.1 on Win32) has a bug: --resample 12 mangles the sound 02.07.22 # :( 02.08.42 # "Using LAME, the following is pretty good for spoken recordings: ame --resample 12 -b 24 -m m" -- Posted by: Guillaume Lessard on September 27, 2004 09:19 AM 02.09.02 # sounds like it works for some people/versions 02.12.38 # I used --resample 16 until now, which works perfectly. However, with less aggressive clipping, the voice file becomes too large with that, so I wanted to use --resample 12 ... 02.13.05 # does 11.025 work? 02.13.11 # Maybe it depends on the lame version... 02.13.19 # Did not try 11 kHz yet 02.19.06 # Same with 11 kHz. 02.19.22 # weird 02.21.35 # Just found it's not caused by lame, it seems to be caused by rockbox... 02.21.43 # wow! 02.22.15 Quit Ka (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.22.15 Quit amiconn (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit woop (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit Bagder (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit gromit`` (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit Zagor (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit ze (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit Sebulba02 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit silencer_ (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit scott666_ (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit uski (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit rob (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit Plugh (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit webmind (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit Hadaka (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit thegeek (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit bizaff (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.22.15 Quit dwihno (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.24.15 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.24.15 NJoin ze [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-44-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 02.24.15 NJoin Zagor [0] (foobar@h254n2fls31o265.telia.com) 02.24.15 NJoin gromit`` [0] (~gromit`@ALagny-151-2-9-111.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 02.24.15 NJoin Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 02.24.15 NJoin woop [0] (s336156@student.uq.edu.au) 02.24.15 NJoin amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FB0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.24.31 NJoin Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp261180pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 02.24.52 NJoin thegeek [0] (thegeek@ti521110a080-0032.bb.online.no) 02.24.52 NJoin bizaff [0] (~chatzilla@64.21.244.215) 02.24.52 NJoin dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 02.24.52 NJoin webmind [0] (~random@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 02.24.52 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 02.25.07 NJoin uski [0] (~uski@82.251.93.5) 02.25.07 NJoin rob [0] (rob@lychee.catalyst2.com) 02.25.07 NJoin Plugh [0] (plugh@adsl-68-122-77-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 02.27.30 NJoin silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 02.27.56 # bed time 02.27.59 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 02.36.33 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB4C4.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.10.15 Join webguest34 [0] (~4245d031@labb.contactor.se) 03.11.28 # hey all.... 03.11.40 # got a quick question.... 03.11.47 # someone got a sec? 03.12.59 Join bagawk [0] (~80c10006@labb.contactor.se) 03.13.19 # Plugh! 03.14.15 # in the plugin section of the file system, there is a util called battery_test 03.14.40 # if I run it, i get a output of 20:15:59 Battery 63% 03.15.07 # the numerical value of time refreshes every time i hit "play" 03.15.29 # is this time itself? Or is this the time in which I have to play my device? 03.15.33 # webguest34: yes, that plugin just times how long your batteries last 03.15.45 # i believe that is just the time yes 03.16.15 Quit AciD (".L") 03.16.56 # webguest34: that plugin is mostly useless 03.17.08 # (to most people...) 03.17.23 # thanks, thats what i thought - considering it did match the time almost to the tee.... 03.17.29 # good day> 03.17.42 # ok :) 03.19.15 # BTW, today I was about to throw my Recorder 20 in the trash because I thought it interface was useless. I am using the GNU issue for my iPOD, and realized there may in chance be something for the Archos. To everyone who develops - thanks! 03.20.05 # hehe 03.20.15 # you almost gave me a heartatack 03.20.25 # why? 03.20.49 # "throw my Recorder 20 in the trash" 03.20.54 # Seriously, the standard issue of the Archos player is crap. 03.21.11 # webguest34: most people would agrea with that... 03.21.15 # :) 03.21.30 # Yeah, its not about money there - im a senior engineer for Intel - (the benifits and things you get for free) 03.21.51 # and as a network guy i look for quality 03.21.57 # and this is definatly not it 03.21.59 # :) 03.22.06 # can you write code? 03.22.28 # network code 03.22.39 # some linux 03.22.40 # neat 03.22.42 # debian 03.22.57 # I know very little about networks 03.23.08 # there is a program by the name of NTOP, i wrote a lot of that with a buddy of mine 03.23.13 # (mainly because i do not have one, or am around them much) 03.23.24 # what does NTOP do? 03.24.03 # it is a network scanner, tells all the users, bandwidth, etc.... 03.24.23 # neat 03.24.33 # you should get into rockbox development 03.24.36 # ntop.org 03.27.44 Join Sebulba02 [0] (~Sebulba02@20.77.33.65.cfl.rr.com) 03.27.46 # im considering it, i need to read a little more on the language side 03.27.57 # but, after this im sure i will be in somewhere 03.28.06 # great :) 03.28.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.29.09 # have a great night, and thanks again 03.29.12 # !!! 03.29.35 # ok bye :) 03.29.55 Quit webguest34 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.33.18 Join npswimdude500 [0] (~0c40b4af@labb.contactor.se) 03.34.44 Quit bagawk ("CGI:IRC") 03.38.36 Quit npswimdude500 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.50.16 Part amiconn 04.51.51 Join webguest76 [0] (~434c90ba@labb.contactor.se) 04.52.03 Quit webguest76 (Client Quit) 05.28.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.10.19 Quit edx () 07.13.29 Join midk [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 07.23.04 Quit Sebulba02 ("bite me") 07.28.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.10.58 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a4327d.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 08.49.23 Join sketal [0] (~d@dijkbeek.demon.nl) 08.49.52 Part sketal 09.28.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.48.23 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FB0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.05.40 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9E34683.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.06.08 # hi there 11.06.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> morning 11.06.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> my little space spell change kept you quite busy last night? 11.06.56 # Rockbox has a (imho) big bug - it doesn't properly play everything MPEG2.5 layer 3 (at least VBR) 11.07.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> ? 11.07.37 # Just preparing a mail to the ml 11.08.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> ok, I'll wait, so you don't have to explain twice 11.08.17 # Playback of mp3s with sample frequencies of 12/ 11.025/ 8 kHz stutters - and it's not only with the voice ui 11.09.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> different topic: I had the idea to exit the USB screen with a (perhaps hidden) key 11.09.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> of course you'd have to unmount first 11.09.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> but it would keep the Ondio powered by USB 11.10.03 # Ah. I just wanted to ask what it should be good for 11.10.29 # You can set the screenshot option to yes, this way you get no usb screen at all 11.10.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> I could have needed that in developing, when I had only the bare PCB 11.10.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> I still want the USB mode 11.11.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> this would also be helpful to FMR/V2, since they charge (slightly) from USB 11.12.28 # Yeah I know, but you can just leave it connected, the usb screen should not matter? 11.12.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> you have to unconnect to get rid of the USB screen 11.14.04 # Yes, but it will also charge while the usb screen is there 11.14.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> my point is to keep the USB power benefit, while already back in normal mode 11.15.08 Quit woop (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.15.08 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.16.05 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.16.05 NJoin woop [0] (s336156@student.uq.edu.au) 11.16.05 # Hmm. I remember that usb connected with the bridge disabled causes weird contrast changes with my V1 recorder. Maybe the ISD300 is not fully disabled. 11.16.34 # You can try this with setting the screenshot mode, the attaching usb 11.16.57 # That problem does not exist on Ondio 11.21.43 # [IDC]Dragon: fyi: The pause in the new voice files is 300 ms long. 11.22.20 Quit woop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.23.25 # (And: your changes were not what kept me busy for so long, it was the MPEG2.5 bug, and my experiments with different clip levels) 11.24.05 # Gotta go, cu 11.24.08 Part amiconn 11.28.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.33.20 Join keno [0] (keno@11.198.216.81.dre.siw.siwnet.net) 11.35.33 Quit keno (Client Quit) 12.03.48 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 12.03.59 Quit uski (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.50.09 Join _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 13.28.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.17.13 Quit Ka (Nick collision from services.) 14.18.35 Join Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@pcp261180pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 15.05.36 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 15.21.21 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 15.28.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.48.03 Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.40.27 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB4C4.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.50.54 Join jozi [0] (~dook@213-202-164-194.bas503.dsl.esat.net) 16.51.00 # lo 16.56.11 Part jozi 17.02.41 Join webguest23 [0] (~439538f6@labb.contactor.se) 17.03.44 Quit webguest23 (Client Quit) 17.10.09 Join gromit``` [0] (~gromit`@ALagny-151-2-8-89.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.28.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.30.46 Quit gromit`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.41.22 Join Norrin [0] (~440d6a3e@labb.contactor.se) 17.45.04 Quit Norrin (Client Quit) 18.50.51 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FB0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.10.31 Quit gromit``` (Remote closed the connection) 19.18.02 Quit midk ("Leaving") 19.22.13 Join uski [0] (~uski@82.251.93.5) 19.28.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.56.12 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 20.07.31 Join webguest38 [0] (~51b9c1df@labb.contactor.se) 20.08.46 Part webguest38 20.40.14 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9E34683.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.40.47 # hi there 20.40.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> heya 20.41.26 # While I was out, I found another button quirk, grr 20.41.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> good you found it pre-release 20.42.26 # This time, it is the yes/no request when "bookmark on stop" is set to one of the ask.. modes 20.43.16 # It immediately disappears when you release the Off button, with no chance to give a positive answer 20.47.30 # Another quirk (which was already there before the button rework) is the initial Resume? request. This does sometimes (read: more often than not) also disappear without a chance to answer 20.47.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> about layer 2.5: can Archos play it? 20.48.42 # The MAS should be able to play it, but archos fw on player fails too. Did not try on recorder or ondio yet 20.49.09 # I'm currently preparing CBR and layer2 test files, for a more thorough test 20.49.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> if it doesn't work from the voice file, this is very strange 20.49.53 # anyone know what changes need to be made to the dev environment to allow me to compile the latest dailies? 20.49.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> voice playback just pumps data, with pure DMA 20.50.32 # I can compile July's cvs with what I have, but now I get stdio.h not found 20.50.39 # (plus: archos fw on player has a funny bug with MPEG2/2.5: It displays the track being twice as long as it really is, then counts down in half-second intervals) 20.50.58 # Plugh: Win or *nix? 20.51.12 # linux 20.52.01 # Hmm, then I can't help that much. I think you should build the latest binutils and gcc 3.3.x for SH 20.52.07 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 20.53.09 # using 3.0.4 now. I didn't see anything on the mailing list that says this change needs to be made 20.54.21 # Official builds now use 3.3.x as well (dont remember exactly whether it is 3.3.1 or 3.3.3) This was discussed here. 3.3.x builds more compact code than either earlier or later versions, which helps rombox 20.55.16 # might I recommend that such command decisions regarding compiler change are posted to the message board and/or the web site in the future? 20.55.47 # That would have been a good idea, indeed 20.56.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm sure they've been, this was widely discussed 20.56.28 # I'm sure they haven't. I searched 2 years of mailing list archives 20.56.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> :-( 20.57.14 # In fact, it is mentioned on the cross compiler instructions page, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler 20.57.43 # yeah, it says 3.3.4 now 20.57.48 # reading that 20.58.02 # but there was no discussion of the change 20.58.46 # There was, however not on the ml, but in irc. Irc logs are archived too 20.58.53 # I had a mission critical project on Friday that I couldn't find any info about req changes, and I didn't get it done in time 20.59.33 # turned out that the project was... flooded out anyway, so it didn't become an issue 21.01.08 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.01.35 # hiya mk 21.01.47 # hey Plugh 21.02.05 # turns out 3.3.4 is needed afterall 21.02.14 # i knew it 21.03.01 # it's in building the cross compiler 21.03.26 # bastids 21.03.37 # quake 3 for a bit now, back soon 21.03.59 # but how to build just says sh-elf-gcc needs to be in the path 21.05.43 # I was trying to add CD length splits to the build 21.05.49 # for recording 21.24.31 # ey, people :) 21.26.25 # [IDC]Dragon: Your low battery check works on recorder (just got that) 21.27.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> did it successfully refuse? 21.27.51 # Yup. 21.28.06 # It said "Battery too low", and exited. 21.28.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.28.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> have you seen the Ondio report shutting down at 3.6V? 21.29.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> I hope this is mis-measured 21.29.39 # No, I did not see that yet, hwever, I can imagine that. 21.32.34 # Some days ago my Ondio shut down while playing music. The battery symbol was not blinking before it happened (it showed ~10 %) 21.33.45 Join uski_ [0] (~uski@lns-vlq-28-82-254-79-232.adsl.proxad.net) 21.36.32 Quit uski (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.52.09 Quit [IDC]Dragon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.08.32 Join kramerica [0] (~lkd@hsdbsk142-165-191-20.sasknet.sk.ca) 22.13.14 Quit kramerica (Client Quit) 22.14.34 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- irc client ownage!") 22.20.07 Nick uski_ is now known as uski (~uski@lns-vlq-28-82-254-79-232.adsl.proxad.net) 22.23.48 Join webguest98 [0] (~d9587cf2@labb.contactor.se) 22.24.11 Join webguest66 [0] (~d9587cf2@labb.contactor.se) 22.24.11 Quit webguest98 (Client Quit) 23.06.01 Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.06.38 Quit thegeek (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.08.47 Join G [0] (G@ti521110a080-0032.bb.online.no) 23.22.16 Join bagawk [0] (Lee@bagawk.user) 23.22.24 # midk: hey 23.23.35 # yo 23.24.23 # midk: you are Zakk Roberts right? 23.24.32 # uhhhhhh, yeah... 23.24.44 # :) 23.24.50 # Just read your reply 23.25.55 # midk: amiconn said in a mail once that the FM/v2 can power on already from RTC 23.26.04 # yup 23.26.05 # right. 23.26.19 # [IDC]Dragon said the same... 23.26.21 # does the wake up menu show up for those units? 23.26.31 # yes 23.26.43 # ok neat 23.26.44 # :) 23.28.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.31.39 # amiconn: i am thinking of doing the white backlight mod on my recorder 23.33.28 # amiconn: A few questions: 1. Where is a good source for the lights 2. Is it really hard to do it? I heard you did damage the pads a little 23.34.16 # And also, any recommendations for the brightness and power consumption ETC on the lights? 23.36.58 # bagawk: (1) I ordered the leds from Schuricht, a German mail order company which mainly sells to professionals. They sell a minimum quantity of 10 pcs, but for a good price (€ 1.69 per led) 23.38.29 # (2) It is not the easiest mod, but not very hard either. You should be able to handle SMD parts. My leds are size 0805, and that's possibly the largest type that fits 23.39.28 # You should try to get leds which have the metal end plates all around, and not only at the bottom as mine, because you have to solder them in vertically. 23.40.14 # I recommend leds of the "super bright" type, they should have >~100 mcd at maximum current. 23.40.59 # ok Thanks for the information... Ill try to order some now 23.42.31 # You can use any led color you want, but if you are going to use blue or white leds (sic!) you have to re-wire the 2 leds of each side to be in parallel. Originally the 2 leds of each side are in series, but that won't work with blue or white leds because of the higher threshold voltage 23.42.59 # ok 23.43.03 # :) 23.48.30 Join yeft [0] (~Leboff@pcp08615553pcs.benslm01.pa.comcast.net) 23.49.16 # know why that guy wanted to talk to me... 23.49.44 # ??? 23.50.03 # i said in here once i could get around this web filter called websense...he googled and found my sn 23.50.04 # hahaha 23.50.32 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD95D1D7E.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.51.28 # lol! 23.51.30 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.51.30 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD95D1D7E.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.52.10 # its funny cause theres about 3 thousand ways to get around websense 23.54.27 # web filters are silly 23.54.35 # ohh so silly 23.54.44 # I saw a artical in the local newspaper the other day 23.54.57 # my school is ridculous about it too... 23.55.00 # About the public library trying to use filters to stop porn 23.55.12 # hahah 23.55.29 # and they were like "99.6% of the sites visted are not pornographic" 23.55.45 # everytime i have been there i have seen someone looking at porn 23.55.47 # lol 23.56.03 # we just got about 50 new computers in our library.... brand new dells...i've made my own administrator account on at least 3 of them 23.56.06 # hahaha 23.56.09 # thats funny 23.56.29 # heh 23.56.36 # I got in BIG trouble doing that 23.56.56 # I was using admin acount quite a few months with no problems 23.57.14 # yeah... 23.57.25 # then they did a update on the macines, with a perl login script that sent a message to the admins about who is logging on 23.57.29 # and they saw me... 23.58.04 # how do they know it was you? wouldnt it just say Administrator logged in 10:23:32 10/24/04 23.58.09 # or something 23.58.24 # I am not sure 23.58.37 # I guess they would know if a admin was supposed to be on the machine or not 23.58.42 # true.. 23.58.48 # yes it would say someting like that 23.58.58 # but the script also sent the machien name