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00.00.15 #       <bagawk> and anyway, when they saw port 997 being used, theyt had my IP address
00.00.22 #       <bagawk> (which is static)
00.00.32 #       <bagawk> and they knew which machine i was at
00.00.34 #       <yeft> i actually gotta start to try to figure out more things i can do with these admin accts... because right now they are admin on the computers domain...not the network domain
00.01.02 #       <bagawk> Yes, that was the same with the library computer, the machines domain
00.01.13 #       <bagawk> although i had the network domain password...
00.01.22 #       <yeft> nice
00.01.50 #       <yeft> once i get on the network..it has every computer from every school in the district i b elieve
00.02.22 #       <bagawk> I can see every computer on the network in the school district
00.02.28 #       <bagawk> although everyhting is passworded
00.02.34 #       <yeft> exactly
00.02.38 #       <bagawk> but i do not realy care what is on the network...
00.02.44 #       <yeft> but i'm sure theres some admin pass
00.02.50 #       <yeft> that has access to it all
00.03.14 #       <yeft> well i just think it would be fun to like print 400 pages at a school or something
00.03.21 #       <yeft> like the main office...
00.03.46 #       <bagawk> amiconn: you would not happen to know where the part you ordered from schuricht is on there webpage do oyu?
00.04.08 #       <bagawk> hehe   400 blank pages
00.05.00 #       <bagawk> ahh i think i foudn it       same size you used
00.07.26 #       <bagawk> time to go
00.07.27 #       <bagawk> bye!
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00.10.10 #       <yeft> im out also..
00.10.22 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I found a bug
00.10.37 #       <amiconn> hi kurzhaarrocker
00.10.42 #       <amiconn> What bug?
00.10.42 #       <kurzhaarrocker> hi amiconn
00.11.15 #       <amiconn> I'm in a button-bug squashing session anyway...
00.11.16 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Just a small one: during recording all quickscreens are disabled. But the menu isn't disabled. I think that's a bug.
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00.11.30 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Want the patch?
00.12.57 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I just doesn't make sense to disallow to change the recording settings via quickscreens and open a backdoor via the menu.
00.13.40 #       <amiconn> Of course, just tried it. F2 is disabled, and F3 has another function
00.14.15 #       <kurzhaarrocker> With f3 that's ok. It splits the file. But F1 allows to alter all the settings while f2 disallows that.
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00.15.16 #       <BoD[]> hi !
00.15.23 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Hi BoD[]
00.17.24 #       <BoD[]> so what's new in rockbox
00.17.50 #       <kurzhaarrocker> ondio port makes enormous progress
00.18.14 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Feature freeze is announced, a new release is about to be published.
00.18.33 #       <amiconn> kurzhaarrocker: ctcp didn't work... You did surround the whole case REC_SETTINGS with if(mpeg_status() != MPEG_STATUS_RECORD), didn't you?
00.18.52 #       <kurzhaarrocker> yes, just as with f2
00.19.09 #       <BoD[]> hmm
00.19.14 #       <BoD[]> is ondio cool ?
00.19.18 #       <BoD[]> never seen one
00.19.40 #       <kurzhaarrocker> It seems to suffer a severe lack of buttons :)
00.19.43 #       <amiconn> BoD[]: Look at the device comparison chart, or the Ondio wiki page
00.19.54 #       <BoD[]> thanks
00.20.26 #       <BoD[]> ohh it's archos
00.20.32 #       <amiconn> yup.
00.20.38 #       <kurzhaarrocker> disappointed, BoD[]?
00.20.42 #       <BoD[]> true :
00.20.43 #       <BoD[]> :)
00.21.30 #       <amiconn> That's why we could port rockbox so fast, it uses (almost) the same core hardware (cpu/ lcd/ codec/ rom/ ram)
00.23.01 #       <BoD[]> hehe coool :)
00.23.08 #       <amiconn> kurzhaarrocker: In addition to the non-disabled menu while recording, the menu calls also suffers from the led bug. I'm going to fix this on the way
00.23.18 #       <BoD[]> but i'm more excided by the iriver port in fact
00.23.44 #       <kurzhaarrocker> sounds good, amiconn
00.24.03 #       * kurzhaarrocker investigates amiconn's changes to wormlet
00.24.43 #       <kurzhaarrocker> hm. It seems it wasn't that hard at all to update it :)
00.24.43 #       <thegeek> btw, any progress on the iriver port?
00.24.43 #       <thegeek> or rather, have you managed to get any code booting or anything?
00.25.08 #       <amiconn> kurzhaarrocker: For wormlet, I only did the default event handler adaption, because the button handling is very, erm, confusing. I'd like to adapt this to Ondio too (limited functionality there, 0/1 player only)
00.26.19 #       <kurzhaarrocker> thegeek I think linus has already achieved a few astonishing things but it's still in the very early beginning and a loooong way to go until there's rockbox for iriver.
00.26.27 #       <Bagder> thegeek: the threading works, it can flash the backlight
00.27.05 #       <thegeek> oooh
00.27.06 #       <thegeek> dang
00.27.09 #       <thegeek> that's already great
00.27.15 #       <kurzhaarrocker> wormlet was my "hello world" for rockbox, amiconn :)
00.27.39 #       <thegeek> can you interface the screen in any way?
00.28.04 #       <Bagder> I don't know
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00.28.31 #       <thegeek> hehe
00.28.49 #       <BoD[]> I lost my unit a few months ago
00.28.55 #       <BoD[]> i had an ajbr20
00.29.07 #       <Bagder> linus is the only rockbox dude that has an iriver
00.29.16 #       <BoD[]> didn't buy a new thing since then.. but I was considering an iRiver
00.29.17 #       * kurzhaarrocker quickly hides his recorder from BoD[]
00.29.46 #       <BoD[]> but now that I know that rockbox could eventually one day run on that
00.29.59 #       <BoD[]> well :) that's one more point for iRiver
00.30.24 #       <thegeek> I have the h120
00.30.25 #       <thegeek> it's great
00.30.36 #       <thegeek> but it would be even better with rockbox on it;)
00.31.03 #       <amiconn> kurzhaarrocker: Fixes committed
00.31.11 #       <kurzhaarrocker> \o/, amiconn
00.31.35 #       <BoD[]> :)
00.31.49 #       <BoD[]> well of course i was also considering the ipod
00.31.58 #       <amiconn> BoD[]: Urgs
00.32.05 #       <BoD[]> what
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00.55.43 #       * kurzhaarrocker hates it when cvs detects conflicts
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00.56.39 #       <amiconn> kurzhaarrocker: Got a conflict in recording.c?
00.57.23 #       <kurzhaarrocker> yes, I have made many changes in recording.c. A major part of triggered recording is solved there.
00.59.49 #       <amiconn> Hmm. That means you have to solve the conflicts by hand. In case such conflicts happen to me, and I haven't changed anything else that might be important, I just delete the file and update from cvs again. Cvs detects the missing file and fetches a fresh copy
01.01.30 #       <kurzhaarrocker> It isn't a really big problem. My brain just always gets twisted up when trying to figure out what was my change and what was the other change and which one is the one to be used :)
01.02.13 #       <amiconn> As long as you didn't change something else in the REC_SETTINGS case, it shouldn't be that hard
01.02.34 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I solved it already.
01.03.15 #       <amiconn> Hope you don't currently edit tree.c. There is something to fix for me...
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03.20.04 #       <tpelliott> What quality setting is best for recording FM radio without getting o erly large files?
03.20.13 #       <tpelliott> overly
03.20.49 #       <midk> 7/44.1
03.22.27 #       <tpelliott> I use the default quality of 5, which seems ok.  Probably wouldn't want to go lower.  I want similar to 128 CBR
03.22.40 #       <midk> i still recommend 7.
03.22.45 #       <midk> if 5 works fine, why do you ask?
03.23.19 #       <tpelliott> Getting ready to record Dr. Demento halloween.
03.23.40 #       <tpelliott> I was curious if anyone had used a lower setting with acceptable results.
03.23.51 #       <midk> try it out
03.25.12 #       <tpelliott> I should do that but the show starts in a few minutes.  I guess I'll  use 5 for now.  I used to use 7 but it seemed to create bloated files that didn't sound that much better.
03.25.32 #       <midk> if disk space is an issue, 5 should be fine
03.25.45 #       <tpelliott> FM has a limited range anyway.
03.25.48 #       <midk> with radio it wouldn't make a very noticeable difference
03.26.04 #       <midk> exactly: that's like converting a 128kb/s file to 256kb/s: not going to help
03.26.07 #       <tpelliott> Do you do a lot of recording off the radio?
03.26.20 #       <midk> nope
03.26.48 #       <tpelliott> I really only record the Dr. Demento show sometimes.
03.28.31 #       <tpelliott> There's a syndicated morning show "Bob & Tom" that has "Live Day" with a bunch of acts live in the studio.  I never know when that is.  I would love to record it.
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09.20.09 #       <kurzhaarrocker> \o/ rockbox.org is online! :D
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09.33.57 #       <LinusN> kurzhaarrocker: awake?
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09.35.51 #       <LinusN> Bagder_: scsi problems again
09.36.16 #       <Bagder_> ouch
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09.36.25 #       <LinusN> kernel panic
09.36.52 #       <Bagder_> we need to fix that thing
09.37.06 #       <Zagor> yes
09.37.37 #       <Zagor> i'll do the base install on the disk tonight
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10.48.35 #       <Zagor> "i need a custom firmware, tailor-made to my desires. that should be easy for you to do!" --Feature request
10.51.33 #       <Bagder> I saw that too
10.51.36 #       <Bagder> it made me tired
10.52.02 #       <Bagder> "yes sir, for $500 USD, we'll deliver it to you by UPS" :-)
10.52.24 #       <Zagor> :)
10.52.42 #       <dwihno> what was that?
10.52.46 #       <dwihno> something on the mailing list?
10.52.55 #       <Bagder> feature request
10.53.05 #       <Bagder> #1053441
10.54.49 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Hi, now I'm awake
10.55.14 #       <kurzhaarrocker> @ LinusN
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10.56.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> 'morning haxx
10.58.06 #       <LinusN> kurzhaarrocker: i was just curious about your recording issues
10.58.35 #       <LinusN> can you do error-free S/PDIF recording with the latest builds?
10.58.46 #       <LinusN> as opposed to 2.2
10.59.04 #       <LinusN> os "as with 2.2"
10.59.06 #       <LinusN> or
10.59.15 #       <webmind> moin ppl
10.59.19 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I haven't done recordings with s/pdif, only via line in yet. Those were flawless.
10.59.37 #       <LinusN> ok
10.59.55 #       <kurzhaarrocker> A few weeks ago I did recordings with a daily build with errors thoug. The special build for Paul(?) didn't reveal any problems.
10.59.59 #       <dwihno> What can I say... Some of the feature requests are funny...
11.00.34 #       <LinusN> it seems like we do have problems with recording that we didn't have in 2.2
11.01.30 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder: I can't find the feature request you've mentioned. Already purged it?
11.01.42 #       <Bagder> zagore rejected it already, yes
11.01.45 #       <kurzhaarrocker> The recording from the last few hours were without any problems
11.01.56 #       <Bagder> zagore is the italian version of zagor ;-)
11.01.58 #       <Zagor> it's still there, I just marked it rejected
11.02.05 #       <[IDC]Dragon> (and yes, there are many f.r., I never really looked)
11.04.27 #       <[IDC]Dragon> dwihno: are you Mr. icon GUI?
11.05.04 #       <dwihno> [IDC]Dragon: Well, I did a demo thingy a long time ago, if that's what you mean...
11.05.04 #       <LinusN> dwihno is Mr Icon GUI With Lost Source Code :-)
11.05.24 #       <dwihno> :~(
11.05.29 #       <[IDC]Dragon> oh
11.05.36 #       <dwihno> The code was ugly as hell
11.05.39 #       <dwihno> More a proof of concept
11.05.44 #       <[IDC]Dragon> any traces left? screenshots, etc.?
11.05.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I've never seen it
11.06.13 #       <dwihno> Dunno. That would be if Linus still has any of the ajz's
11.06.20 #       <LinusN> nope
11.07.01 #       <dwihno> Then there is nothing but loosely based rumours... Was there ever a GUI? :)
11.07.18 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I think I have a binary of that on my disk somewhere
11.08.03 #       <dwihno> I recall I just wanted some feedback... I mean, spending many hours writing something that won't even make cvs would be a waste of time.
11.08.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> please dig it out
11.08.18 #       <Bagder> user-distributed backups are tricky to restore ;-)
11.08.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'm curious
11.10.42 #       <dwihno> 16x16 b/w icons, special ugly hacks...
11.10.45 #       <dwihno> inverted selections
11.12.10 #       <dwihno> It was pretty basic and rough
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11.20.18 #       <[IDC]Dragon> LinusN: Salokyn just wrote a bug report to the ml
11.20.29 #       <LinusN> saw that
11.21.19 #       <LinusN> i see the bug
11.21.27 #       <LinusN> will fix
11.21.38 #       <[IDC]Dragon> :-)
11.22.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> going for a new report to commit fix record?
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11.23.18 #       <LinusN> nah
11.23.35 #       <LinusN> what was the old record?
11.23.40 #       <LinusN> 11 minutes?
11.24.09 #       <LinusN> much harder on my work pc, it takes ages to compile rockbox
11.31.17 #       <Zagor> hmm, sometimes songdl.pl adds artists without any albums. weird.
11.31.22 #       <Zagor> songdb
12.36.10 #       <Bagder> well, the album field isn't always used
12.54.07 #       <Zagor> right. hmm, we need to workaround that somehow
12.54.33 #       <Bagder> possibly by using an "unknown" album for such songs
12.54.40 #       <Zagor> yeah
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13.02.58 #       <amiconn> hi there
13.04.00 #       <[IDC]Dragon> hi Jens
13.04.36 #       <[IDC]Dragon> looks like you had a successful bug hunting night
13.07.42 #       <amiconn> yup.
13.08.09 #       <amiconn> However, the NULL pointer accesses in mpeg.c are still there (LinusN ?)
13.08.28 #       * Bagder prepares to booo ;-)
13.09.09 #       <[IDC]Dragon> the poor NULL gets no privacy
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13.25.28 #       <LinusN> amiconn: ah, the null pointer accesses...
13.37.37 #       <Zagor> Bagder: do you feel like preparing a nice cvs-commit list to me, for the release notes?
13.37.54 #       <Bagder> I'll work on it
13.37.59 #       <Zagor> thanks
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13.41.07 #       <Bagder> you want it from 2.2 release date to now?
13.41.41 #       <[IDC]Dragon> can I get it as well, please?
13.42.18 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'd like to review what we had to do for the Ondio
13.42.31 #       <Bagder> yes, I'll put it up somewhere, stay tuned
13.42.44 #       <[IDC]Dragon> thanks
13.43.22 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: are you interested in Toni's half broken Ondio? He seemed to offer it.
13.43.22 #       <Bagder> cvs -Q log -d "2004-03-11<now" >floink
13.43.27 #       <Bagder> ls -l floink 
13.43.27 #       <Bagder> -rw-r--r--  1 daniel daniel 838829 Oct 25 13:43 floink
13.43.31 #       <Bagder> big
13.43.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> can you do a later date for me?
13.44.02 #       <Bagder> yes, sure I'll just do this first
13.44.03 #       * [IDC]Dragon looks for when Ondio started
13.45.29 #       <Bagder> 1948 changes
13.45.45 #       <Bagder> on 374 files
13.46.01 #       <[IDC]Dragon> we have thatmany files? ;-)
13.47.15 #       <Bagder> http://daniel.haxx.se/since22.txt
13.48.21 #       <Zagor> yay
13.48.58 #       <Bagder> it is sorted on files
13.49.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I got my Ondio on Sept. 8th
13.49.12 #       <Zagor> "(bagder) crap I shouldn't have committed in the first place"
13.49.25 #       <Zagor> :)
13.49.34 #       <Bagder> hehe
13.49.42 #       <Bagder> [IDC]Dragon: so you want a log from that date?
13.49.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> would be nice, yes
13.50.26 #       <Bagder> http://daniel.haxx.se/sincesep8.txt
13.50.52 #       <Bagder> I should make the log more like the cvs log on the site
13.50.56 #       <Bagder> that group changes
13.51.01 #       <Bagder> to multiple files
13.51.10 #       <Bagder> but I can't do that now, have to go
13.51.12 #       <Bagder> see ya
13.51.12 #       <[IDC]Dragon> perhaps with a date, too?
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14.25.30 #       <[IDC]Dragon> does anybody know the price tag for the Gmini XS200 ?
14.26.11 #       <Zagor> tempted?
14.26.16 #       <LinusN> amiconn: what did you use to verify your recordings?
14.28.52 #       <Zagor> [IDC]Dragon: gizmodo says $250
14.30.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I found the european price now: EUR 299
14.31.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I thought the currencies convert rather the other way round...
14.35.28 #       <Zagor> heh, yeah
14.53.04 #       <kurzhaarrocker> ups, LinusN commited a patch of mine! Thanks! :D
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15.00.03 #       <Bagder> Zagor: http://daniel.haxx.se/since22.html
15.00.06 #       <Bagder> nicer formatted
15.00.35 #       <Zagor> goodie
15.00.50 #       <Bagder> 881 commits
15.02.02 #       <Bagder> [IDC]Dragon: you want one using that format?
15.02.25 #       <Bagder> I guess you can figure out, since you just wanted a different start date ;-)
15.02.27 #       <[IDC]Dragon> drool, yes
15.02.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> wel, it's sorted by date, so I can cut
15.02.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> well
15.02.59 #       <Bagder> yeps
15.03.15 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'm fine then, thanks
15.03.55 #       <[IDC]Dragon> have you done a committer histogram? ;-)
15.04.10 #       <Bagder> hehe, I've left that for you ;-)
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15.28.54 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Are there any demo videos for rockbox?
15.29.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> how tiny is tiny?
15.29.45 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I'm fat :)
15.30.32 #       <[IDC]Dragon> http://www.rockbox.org/newvid/
15.30.40 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Thank you
15.38.31 #       <[IDC]Dragon> there's an external page by someone with music videos
15.39.55 #       <[IDC]Dragon> http://rockboxvideo.redbreva.co.uk/
15.50.58 #       <amiconn> LinusN: I verified recordings with mp3utility and mp3fixer (a bit unreliable). Still no own frame analyzer :(
15.51.18 #       <LinusN> ok
15.51.48 #       <LinusN> paul tried my CRC-corrected 2.2 version, and it worked fine for him
15.52.06 #       <amiconn> Meaning what?
15.52.47 #       <LinusN> meaning that my theory was incorrect, that 2.2 was bad too, just that the lack of crc check was hiding the bug
15.53.09 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I didn't have annoying problems using that build either
15.55.18 #       <amiconn> LinusN: Okay. Remember that I suspect having CRC generation and m/s stereo active at the same time may somehow "overload" the mas - there must be a reson why the archos fw does not use m/s stereo
15.56.16 #       <LinusN> but that's exactly what my 2.2 with CRC does, and it seems to work fine
15.56.50 #       <LinusN> paul heu also have serious problems with the optimized ATA routines
16.00.49 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Well, I haven't tested the combination crc + stereo + spdif yet, only crc + stere + line in.
16.02.57 #       <LinusN> gotta go
16.03.01 #       <LinusN> cu guys
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16.10.05 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: As the "dot" clip is now included in the voice files, it's up to you to activate its usage in the code...
16.10.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> it's "only" in your files, I don't like to enable it yet
16.12.02 #       <amiconn> The other voice files may take a looong time until they're updated...
16.12.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> true, too
16.12.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor: any plans what to do with the voive files for 2.3 release?
16.14.57 #       <Zagor> they will be downloaded separately from the base zip
16.15.42 #       <[IDC]Dragon> we'll have to freeze a set then
16.15.43 #       <Zagor> yes
16.16.46 #       <[IDC]Dragon> do you want to take what's there, or use Jens' as the official ones?
16.17.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> all the others are more or less outdated, but will work with their vocabulary
16.18.31 #       <Zagor> sounds like we should use jens' then. we can add more if people update the others.
16.20.15 #       <Zagor> the release won't be tonight, as you've probably guessed. i've had too much other work to do.
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16.50.51 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: The last voice file update by Arnaud is from 2004-08-27, almost 2 months old. The file by Christi is even older...
16.51.36 #       <amiconn> I wonder if someone wil ever contribute more non-english (and non-german) voice files
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17.16.03 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: What do you think about adding a little MMC icon in the statusbar for Ondio in place of the clock to signal MMC activity. This would be set/reset by the mmc driver activity, as well as by the "bridge activity" signal in usb mode.
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17.17.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> good idea!
17.17.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> can you make it red?
17.18.03 #       <amiconn> hehe ;)
17.18.23 #       <amiconn> No, seriously, this might be useful...
17.18.49 #       <amiconn> Of course this is only visible when there is a status bar
17.19.15 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes, currenly we don't know if the card is accessed
17.19.31 #       <[IDC]Dragon> perhaps especially for writing
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17.19.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> hmm, but then we usually don't see the status bar
17.20.02 #       <amiconn> I thought about letting the led() function handle this on Ondio...
17.20.28 #       <[IDC]Dragon> uhh, that might be hairy
17.20.39 #       <amiconn> Of course this might be a problem for recording, delivering a somewhat confusing display
17.20.53 #       <amiconn> (...not for me ;-/ )
17.21.06 #       <[IDC]Dragon> didn't the metronome abuse it, too?
17.21.14 #       <amiconn> Ah, yes, I remember
17.21.51 #       <[IDC]Dragon> but certainly you can collect the calls, and update the diplay if the status bar is visible
17.22.06 #       <amiconn> But chances are this would not be visible in metronome. No plugin displays the status bar (the function is not exported to the api)
17.22.14 #       <[IDC]Dragon> in most cases, it won't
17.24.12 #       <amiconn> The actual drawing has to be done by (a sub-function of) statusbar_draw(), but the status could be set by the led() function
17.24.37 #       <[IDC]Dragon> so ok, it seems viable to maintain the status as you say
17.25.14 #       * [IDC]Dragon thinks of a disk icon no higher than 7 pixel
17.25.40 #       <kurzhaarrocker> About led: I think I'd like it to behave differently while recording. Momentarily it tries to mix displaying recording status and disk access. Especially when recording triggered its horrible. It should display recording staus only.
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17.27.16 #       <amiconn> Now he's gone...
17.27.41 #       <amiconn> (away too)
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17.36.01 #       <Domonoky> 874259     Rejected     5     nobody     Support the iRiver IHP 100/120
17.36.22 #       <Domonoky> i think the status of this feature request is no longer valid ..
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18.51.54 #       <lImbus> hi all
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19.49.01 #       <amiconn> Bagder: r u there?
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20.46.56 #       <lImbus> lol. I just noticed I am still flashing and using an ooooold build cause I was always flashing with rockbox.ucl instead of rombox.ucl ...
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20.52.23 #       <mrelwood> what is CVS?
20.52.34 #       <lImbus> hi
20.52.41 #       <lImbus> the concurrent versioning system
20.52.53 #       <lImbus> this is where the source code of the rockbox lays
20.53.16 #       <lImbus> it's some kind of server where you can get the most current source code.
20.53.17 #       <mrelwood> okay. i guess it has got something to do with daily builds?
20.53.51 #       <lImbus> daily builds are the daily compiled versions of the source code in the cvs
20.54.22 #       <mrelwood> more newbie faq: why is the code changed daily?
20.54.44 #       <lImbus> because bugs are squashed out every day
20.54.53 #       <lImbus> and new features, of course
20.55.20 #       <mrelwood> so, if I want to keep my player up to date, i could re-install the rockbox every day?
20.55.41 #       <lImbus> it's only copying a few files
20.56.08 #       <mrelwood> copying files to the player? i suppose the daily new features are rather small?
20.56.34 #       <lImbus> you always have to copy the complete firmware.
20.56.49 #       <lImbus> it's only one file actually. which kind of device do you own ?
20.57.17 #       <mrelwood> i'm waiting for the iriver code, then I will get iHP-120
20.57.53 #       <mrelwood> there isn't a recorder for me currently, but rockbox would make iriver a one for me.
20.58.15 #       <lImbus> I see. From what I know, it may take a while, even if a few people are working on it nearly daily.
20.58.42 #       <mrelwood> i know. but i don't have a choice, there is no product that would suit me currently
20.58.52 #       <lImbus> what a bummer
20.59.20 #       <mrelwood> i know.
21.01.30 #       <mrelwood> i need a recorder, mostly, and ihp doesn't have input level metering, has glitches in recording, rec has time limits...
21.01.49 #       <mrelwood> so for now, i'll just settle with my old MD.
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21.26.54 #       <Acksaw> Hey]
21.27.07 #       <Acksaw> can someone tell me the info about rockbox on the iriver?
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23.07.15 #       <amiconn> [IDC]Dragon: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/MMC.bmp
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23.16.21 #       <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: looks more like a document icon
23.16.34 #       <[IDC]Dragon> gotta go
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23.17.04 #       <iriverowner> hi
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23.20.43 #       <webguest35> hey im a noob and i was just wondering..rockbox will work for iriver right?
23.28.03 #       <iriverowner> i think it will............................ eventually
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23.38.24 #       <thegeek> it seems linus has managed to get some code running on the iriver, even though it is very simple(just flashing screen) it is certainly a good beginning:)
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23.39.15 #       <thegeek> as soon as an ata and lcd driver is incorporated, and the coldfire emu is up and running, development will probably speed up a lot;)
23.43.07 #       <CpuMan2001> would it be possible for rockbox to support .cue files for mp3s
23.44.26 #       <thegeek> short answer : yes
23.44.27 #       <thegeek> ;)
23.44.45 #       <thegeek> you should make a feature request
23.49.03 #       <Stryke`> i'm a bit curious with inclusion of MAD as mp3 decoder, isn't MAD the slowest decoder available
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23.55.42 #       <webguest91> hi all.
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