--- Log for 02.11.104 Server: saberhagen.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 hours and 32 minutes ago 00.02.40 Join yeft [0] (~Leboff@pcp08615553pcs.benslm01.pa.comcast.net) 00.09.32 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.09.32 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7E249.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.15.02 Join Igualada26 [0] (~jsmdo@110.Red-213-96-62.pooles.rima-tde.net) 00.16.59 # Hi all 00.17.17 # Does anybody have trouble in loading fonts? 00.17.25 # not i 00.17.37 # but then again my fmr blew up a couple months ago... 00.17.38 # any of them load 00.18.11 # blew?? 00.18.22 # a massive explosion 00.18.41 # you mean original firmware? 00.19.06 # im confused 00.19.32 # me too.....:-) 00.19.51 # i had an fmr, with rockbox flashed on 00.19.57 # and it was like...i'm done...thats it 00.20.26 # sounds strange 00.20.42 # yeah 00.20.52 # maybe it was not a rockbox fault 00.20.53 # a day before i left for israel :-/ 00.20.57 # i dont think it was 00.21.02 # i thinkk it was archos's 00.21.10 # thats why i'll nver buy anything from them again 00.21.22 # it happened to my AJB6k too 00.21.54 # i see 00.23.20 # I suppose I am lucky then, to have only this problem and no hardware ones.... 00.24.01 # anyway my recorder 20 doesn't load any font 00.24.07 # yeah i was eyein the AV480... but i cant do it 00.24.08 # and I don't understand why 00.24.15 # i cant buy from archos 00.24.51 # well, creative is a good alternative I suppose 00.25.37 # but ther is no rockbox for creative products 00.25.41 # ehh..i dont think i'm gonna go to a pmp/pvp 00.25.50 # i'm gonna go to the ipod 00.25.58 # somethihng i should have done after the ajb6k 00.26.03 # and I'm not sure if the can beat the features of rockbox with their firmware 00.26.09 # the ipod photo is beauttttttttiful 00.26.42 # that's a very small one isn't it 00.27.44 # Igualada26: trouble loading fonts? 00.27.48 # yes 00.28.06 # did you by any chance upgrade from an older version to 2.3? 00.28.10 # Not even a font loads 00.28.17 # I've tried all of them in the zip file 00.28.28 # it seems it tries to load as the red led goes on 00.28.35 # yes 00.28.42 # today i did it 00.28.54 # have you flashed? 00.29.00 # but this happens to me since many older versions 00.29.03 # from 2.2 00.29.09 # no 00.29.24 # just loads the file ajz 00.30.13 # I remember this to work 2 months ago 00.30.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.30.35 # but one day one I updated with a daily build 00.30.42 # and the fonts started not to load 00.31.08 # and the still don't load with 2.3...... 00.31.37 # I use my unit while driving and have it a bit far away 00.31.47 # sthe originalk font is too small 00.31.50 # :-) 00.31.59 # I can't read anything while driving 00.32.05 # it sounds like your fonts doesn't match the firmware version 00.32.24 # mmmmm I tried to download again the zip file 00.32.27 # many times 00.32.32 # but it seems to be the same always 00.32.41 # I mean the zip with fonts 00.32.42 # and you unzip the entire contents? 00.32.48 # yes 00.33.09 # the fonts are included in the rockbox distribution 00.33.25 # you don't need to download them separately 00.33.44 # I didin't noticed that..... 00.33.59 # the zip on the font download page is old 00.34.22 # I know what you mean 00.34.36 # let me try..... 00.36.17 # besides the language file loads correctly 00.36.26 # (spanish lng) 00.36.36 # but it doesn't load automatically each time it boots 00.36.50 # and it's on the .rockbox\lang dir 00.36.57 # I don't know why 00.37.12 # no error messages? 00.37.17 # no 00.37.29 # and you shut it off correctly? 00.37.32 # it loads correctly i f i play it 00.37.40 # i think so.... 00.37.49 # just press off button 00.38.12 # v1 recorder? 00.38.35 # yes 00.38.41 # unless 00.38.49 # the lang file is also obsolete 00.38.51 # ..... 00.38.56 # to shut off cleanly, go to the browser and press off twice 00.39.01 # i see now that there is a lang file in the pack also 00.39.04 # like the fonts 00.39.22 # but if i do this.... 00.39.24 # yes, you are supposed to install everything in the zip file 00.39.28 # the resume will be done? 00.39.35 # i mean it's like pressing stop 00.39.41 # and then exiting.... 00.40.24 # it always resumes if you haven't set it to "off" 00.40.44 # in the position it was playing exactly??? 00.40.49 # yes 00.40.51 # even if you press stop 00.40.53 # ... 00.40.54 # yes 00.40.58 # strange.... 00.41.03 # why? 00.41.19 # well not strange 00.41.29 # just differetn form a cd player would do 00.41.34 # i suppose 00.41.57 # we have done it like that because many people stop it by mistake, and want to resume anyway 00.42.26 Join miner49er [0] (~chatzilla@82-32-46-234.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) 00.42.28 # mmm it's a good thought 00.42.47 # has anyone built todays source in windows? 00.42.49 # anyway, you are supposed to install the entire zip contents 00.42.50 # didn't knew 00.43.07 # miner49er: i haven't, why? 00.43.08 # files are different 00.43.20 # I'm having problems building 00.43.28 # lang files the one i have and the one from the package 00.43.44 # I thought the other content of th epackage was the program source 00.43.45 # from the "download" page: "Unpack the zip archive in the root (top) directory of your Archos disk." 00.43.47 # or something 00.43.58 # I didn't noticed the fonts and tha lag files.... 00.44.30 # I've done completed my plasma demo! but want to get it work with the ltest build... 00.44.46 # miner49er: what's the problem? 00.46.13 # I think it's when it tries to build rombox, something about FLASH being full? any ideas? 00.47.16 # it finally works 00.47.23 # this was the problem 00.47.52 # the zip file must be obsolete 00.49.28 # yes it is 00.49.42 # it isn't needed anymore, so it hasn't been updated 00.49.55 # miner49er: fm recorder? 00.49.56 # ioh i see 00.50.08 # yes, fm recorder 00.50.10 # thank you for your help 00.50.21 # miner49er: you can ignore that message 00.50.24 # Igualada26: you're welcome 00.51.07 # ahh, so everything has probably built okay - I didn't even check! me a dumbass! 00.51.17 # i'll go and see... 00.53.50 # mmmm it seems the lng file doens't want to load automatically 00.54.34 # but I don't care much for this 00.56.25 # Igualada26: tell me how you do to shut off the player 00.56.40 # I've tried now like you said 00.56.50 # pressing two times off button 00.57.12 # hmmm 00.57.42 # yes it's quite strange 00.58.21 # i'm trying again 00.58.31 # no way 00.58.47 # works for me 00.59.22 # actually the font does load automatically 00.59.29 # but the lng not 00.59.46 # which font? 01.00.05 # something14 01.00.12 # don't remember the name exactly 01.00.16 # a big one 01.00.50 # xtal-14 01.00.53 # that's it 01.01.15 # the directory is named "lang" 01.01.25 # i think it's not wrong.... 01.01.51 # you should have a dir called "langs" as well 01.02.04 # mmmm let me see if it's langs or lang 01.02.35 # it's lang 01.03.00 # i'd swear in the web says to have it named "lang"...... 01.03.21 # i try with langs.... 01.03.28 # Igualada26: stop 01.03.45 # 1) follow the installation instructions 01.03.58 # (which tells you to install everything) 01.04.20 # 2) don't select the language by browsing to the "langs" dir 01.04.38 # ok youmean i do it with the menu option 01.04.59 # yes 01.05.10 # it works now 01.05.12 # :-) 01.05.21 # it's the s missing on lang(s) 01.05.35 # yes, it is correctly named in the zip file 01.05.54 # now i see....... 01.07.13 # all has built....except my plasma.c - doI have to add it to anywhere? 01.07.18 # i won't do the same fault again 01.07.29 # thanks for your advices 01.07.57 # Previously I just dropped my new plugin c file into the correct directory and I was away... 01.08.10 # miner49er: apps/plugins/SOURCES 01.08.27 # oh...I feel silly now... 01.09.27 # it's a pretty new feature, the previous versions of rockbox built everything in the directory 01.10.34 Part Igualada26 01.10.39 # aah, i see! So why has this been done? 01.11.16 # Does this mean if I offer my new plugin as patch I have to also give the patched SOURCES file too? 01.12.19 # no 01.12.36 # you don't need to 01.12.50 # it has been done because not all files are built for all targets 01.18.50 # building is very slow too - previously only the file that has changed would be rebuilt - now it goes through all plugins. Is this correct behaviour? 01.20.56 # that doesn't sound correct 01.22.15 Quit adi|home ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.3/20041026]") 01.24.37 Quit yeft ("Leaving") 01.30.35 # hhmm, well they are not fully rebuilding, it's just listing through them saying OBJ COPY or something 01.30.43 # yeah, i see why 01.31.01 # the dependency handling has changed somewhat, i'll look into it 01.31.25 # okay, so it's nothng i've done or not done then? 01.32.41 # i'm quite pleased with this plasma effect! do you think it will be added in? 01.36.08 # probably 01.38.08 # cool :-) 01.38.09 Quit scott666_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.38.31 # miner49er: just upload it to the patch tracker 01.39.09 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.40.11 # okay, I want to tidy the code upa bit first though - 2 spaces, no tabs right? well, no one complained about snake2... 01.41.19 # If I had to the tracker then a few days later add another version, is that okay too? i.e. should I jsut go ahead and add it in it's current state (working but not the finished product)? 01.42.17 # you can always upload new versions 01.42.41 # and if we commit it to cvs, you can send patches 01.43.09 # and if you behave well, you might even get cvs commit access one day 01.45.25 # heh, that would be cool. I need to figure out how to use the diff tool first though! 01.46.12 # Okay, thanks for your help - I gotta sleep now, I will probably upload my new toy 2morrow! bye for now! 01.46.57 Quit miner49er ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7/20040514]") 01.47.06 # LinusN: all formats with an open source decoder will have a chance of making (eventually) the iRiver port? 01.47.41 # Stryke`: more or less 01.47.58 # glad to hear it 01.48.35 # we will go for wav and mp3 to begin with, and the probably flac 01.48.43 # and ogg playback 01.49.30 # id like to put a vote in for musepack (mpc) 01.49.53 # lossless codec? 01.50.06 # no, very high-quality tuned lossy 01.51.05 # also, a large number of my mp3s have APEv2 tags, it would be a welcome addition if they could be read 01.52.20 # what is the benefit of apev2 tags? 01.53.05 # at the end of the file like ID3v1, so a change in tag doesn't require rewriting of the file 01.53.34 # field length is large, and you are not limited to fields 01.54.15 # plus, foobar and mp3gain store ReplayGain information in APEv2 tags 01.55.25 # http://www.personal.uni-jena.de/~pfk/mpp/sv8/apetag.html 01.55.31 # thats the specification 01.56.14 # i remember reading that once, and failed to see the point in another format 01.56.37 # but people keep asking for it 01.57.47 # glad im not alone. it also happens to be Musepack's tag format 01.57.59 # so my questions are semi-related ;-) 01.58.07 # :-) 01.58.23 # we have a request for it in the feature request tracker 01.58.52 # hopefully, someone who cares sends us a patch for it 01.59.07 # excellent, and personally i just want to thank you and the entire effort 01.59.13 # you're welcome 02.11.57 # amiconn, you there? 02.23.45 Join pfavr [0] (~Peter_Fav@213.237.46.232.adsl.ron.worldonline.dk) 02.25.45 Quit pfavr (Client Quit) 02.30.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.38.28 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 02.50.15 Part LinusN 02.52.29 Quit mecraw__ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.55.45 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.15.54 Join Digital007 [0] (~acbc20f9@labb.contactor.se) 03.16.11 # Hi 03.17.22 # all 03.20.04 Quit midk (Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.20.21 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 03.20.40 # hi 04.00.45 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.11.38 Quit Digital007 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.17.09 Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 04.25.58 Join edx [0] (edx@p548795F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.30.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.53.29 Quit AciD (Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.57.02 Join yeft [0] (~Leboff@pcp08615553pcs.benslm01.pa.comcast.net) 05.03.29 Quit yeft ("Leaving") 05.08.59 Join massow182 [0] (~4459a4b1@labb.contactor.se) 05.09.29 Quit massow182 (Client Quit) 06.07.59 Quit Knnnigget ("Client Exiting") 06.30.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.45.51 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 07.48.20 Quit kod-kod (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.03.51 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.08.09 Join kod-kod [0] (~kod-kod@80.178.191.109.forward.012.net.il) 08.30.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.02.11 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 09.03.06 # hi matsl 09.04.59 # hi 09.06.44 # I just sent you a reply. New installer including Swedish is built. 09.12.11 # ok. 09.14.00 # amiconn, I'll try it some time soon. 09.38.40 # happy hacking! cu later (breakfast is over ;-) 09.38.44 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 09.46.57 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~knoppix@p50877009.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.47.32 Join Headie [0] (~hehe@fsto6.sto.sema.se) 10.19.20 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.19.45 # Bon jour, Zagor 10.22.47 # my hovercraft is full of eels 10.23.40 # ?!? Did you try to make a translation bot to translate "Bon jour"? 10.24.36 # "Mon aéroglisseur est plein d'anguilles." :) 10.25.05 # argh 10.25.09 # the phrase is a Monty Python quote 10.27.02 # Ah, that's what you have been doing in France. 10.27.16 # collecting eels, yes :) 10.29.28 # So Linus isn't the only fish murderer in the contactor team? 10.30.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.31.04 # linus is the head sillstrypare in the team :) 10.39.44 # * kurzhaarrocker gave up to find out what "sillstrypare" is 11.06.42 Join webguest39 [0] (~c1713009@labb.contactor.se) 11.07.29 Quit webguest39 (Client Quit) 11.17.19 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.17.40 # it's maquerel, not herring :-) 11.17.54 # aha, a log reader! 10.18.33 # "my nipples are burning with desire" 10.18.46 # exploding with delight! 10.18.59 # "don't they also build bridges out of stone?" 10.19.07 # i got a 140 PCB yesterday 10.19.15 # nice 10.19.25 # "a witch! a witch!" 10.19.51 # and a broken remote 10.20.13 # * LinusN collects junk nowadays 10.22.02 # can you see any difference vs the 120? 10.22.18 # I have some garbage from my garden, can I send it to you as well? ;-P 10.22.25 # i see no difference at all 10.22.35 # Bagder: sure, bring it on :-) 10.22.53 # Bagder: there is (was?) a firewall project called Rockbox as well 10.23.12 # its a wiki, you add ;-) 10.23.20 # LinusN: does it say ihp-120 or 140 on the pcb (just below the screen)? 10.24.52 # http://www.canyoufeelthis.com/ 10.25.20 # "rockbox is a five piece band from New Orleans LA" 10.27.34 # Bagder/ Zagor/ LinusN: Any tests with the extended installer files yet? matsl did a Swedish translation meanwhile; I have updated the files on my hp to include it as well. 10.27.49 # i haven't tried it yet Output from gdb Attaching to program: /home/bjst/logbot/dancer, process 755 Reading symbols from /home/bjst/src/dancer-4.16/libfpl.a...done. Loaded symbols for /home/bjst/src/dancer-4.16/libfpl.a Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnsl.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/i686/libm.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/libm.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/i686/libc.so.6...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/i686/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_files.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_dns.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libnss_dns.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/libresolv.so.2...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libresolv.so.2 0x40163219 in __wait4 () at __wait4:-1 in __wait4 (gdb) #0 0x40163219 in __wait4 () at __wait4:-1 #1 0x401dee34 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #2 0x0804a979 in DumpStack ( format=0x808ae20 "gdb -q %s %d 2>/dev/null < #6 0x4018fb3e in __select () at __select:-1 #7 0x401dee34 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #8 0x0804a6f4 in Start (s=0x81000b8) at dancer.c:312 #9 0x0804b1d1 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffffe04) at dancer.c:627 #10 0x400c4657 in __libc_start_main (main=0x804afbc
, argc=1, ubp_av=0xbffffe04, init=0x8049988 <_init>, fini=0x808abf0 <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000dcd4 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffdfc) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 --- #4 0x0804ac18 in SignalCrashHandler (sig=14) at dancer.c:391 391 StackTrace(); > > > >fd = 4 #5 No locals. #6 0x4018fb3e in __select () at __select:-1 in __select No locals. #7 0x401dee34 in __DTOR_END__ () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 No symbol table info available. #8 0x0804a6f4 in Start (s=0x81000b8) at dancer.c:312 312 EventLoop(); No locals. #9 0x0804b1d1 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbffffe04) at dancer.c:627 627 if (!Start(s)) { buffer = "echo 755 > .pid\0FÓ\0@@e\001@\0l\001@X}\001@pýÿ¿FÓ\0@\234m\001@x}\001@\001\0\0\0\0\0\0\0pz\001@\0@\036@\220ýÿ¿FÓ\0@üµ\r\b\207\223\004\bô1\v@4î\035@Lk\001@þ=\034@¨ýÿ¿àÔ\0@0\227\r@4î\035@Lk\001@\004þÿ¿¨ýÿ¿±¡\004\b" configok = 1 s = (itemserv *) 0x81000b8 #10 0x400c4657 in __libc_start_main (main=0x804afbc
, argc=1, ubp_av=0xbffffe04, init=0x8049988 <_init>, fini=0x808abf0 <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000dcd4 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffdfc) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129 in ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c ubp_av = (char **) 0xbffffcc0 fini = (void (*)()) 0 rtld_fini = (void (*)()) 0xbffff834 ubp_ev = (char **) 0xbffffe0c --- Detaching from program: /home/bjst/logbot/dancer, process 755 --- List of recent snapshots #1 in fplrun.c line 385 [1] #2 in transfer.c line 304 [1] #3 in link.c line 346 [1] #4 in dancer.c line 214 [1] #5 in fplrun.c line 385 [1] #6 in transfer.c line 304 [1] #7 in link.c line 346 [1] #8 in dancer.c line 214 [1] #9 in dancer.c line 124 [1] #10 in dancer.c line 142 [1] #11 in fplrun.c line 385 [1] #12 in transfer.c line 304 [1] #13 in link.c line 346 [1] #14 in dancer.c line 214 [1] #15 in fplrun.c line 385 [1] #16 in transfer.c line 304 [1] #17 in link.c line 346 [1] #18 in dancer.c line 214 [1] #19 in fplrun.c line 385 [1] #20 in transfer.c line 304 [1] --- End of list 10.27.58 DEBUG Received FATAL signal 14 (SIGALRM), crashing (snapshot: fplrun.c line 385) 10.28.01 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.28.01 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 10.28.01 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 10.28.02 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 10.28.02 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 10.28.02 Join logbot [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.28.02 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.28.02 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.28.02 Join Headie [0] (~hehe@fsto6.sto.sema.se) 10.28.02 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~knoppix@p50877009.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.28.02 Join kod-kod [0] (~kod-kod@80.178.191.109.forward.012.net.il) 10.28.02 Join edx [0] (edx@p548795F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.28.02 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 10.28.02 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 10.28.02 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7E249.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.28.02 Join Plugh [0] (plugh@adsl-68-122-77-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 10.28.02 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 10.28.02 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 10.28.02 Join Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@pcp261180pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 10.28.02 Join silencer2 [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 10.28.02 Join ze [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-44-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 10.28.02 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stz-softwaretechnik.com) 10.28.02 Join webmind [0] (~random@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 10.28.02 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 10.29.46 # Wanted: daring, subversive code police officer to investigate the triggered recording patch and commit it anyway. 10.30.13 # :) 10.30.55 # ok, 7(!) other rockbox projects identified 10.31.01 # Zagor: good point, it says "iHP-120" :-) 10.31.02 # no firewall though 10.31.21 # LinusN: goodie 10.33.14 # so, should we get rid of the current F3 screen and replace it with a context menu? 10.33.27 # I think we should 10.33.30 # yeah 10.34.04 # that way we could have an "open with..." in the wps, for (for example) the "add to favorites" plugin 10.34.15 # aaaah 10.34.20 # goodness 10.35.15 # * LinusN starts emacs 10.38.27 # what about the "flip" option, which is in the F3 screen today? 10.38.36 # it should be easily reached imho 10.38.59 # keep it as an option in the menu? 10.39.19 # try that 10.39.52 # i doubt many people use it 10.40.32 # yes, but it's the kind od option you might change all the time 10.41.22 # LinusN: The filp option is in the display settings anyway. If somebody uses this more often, he/she would have that in a .cfg file anyway (that's the way I set the options that need frequent change) 10.41.31 # Let's move sound settings to the top position instead of bookmaking :) ? 10.41.39 # agreed 10.41.49 # dwihno the bookmaker ;-) 10.43.49 # we can move lots of things around once we get proper context menus. both sound settings and bookmarks are primarily things you use from wps 10.44.11 # absolutely 10.44.13 # ;) 10.44.32 # can you see a problem using hold-play to reach it in the wps? 10.44.48 # (thinking about player/ondio) 10.44.53 # Context menus should be reachable using one hand 10.45.00 # yes 10.45.34 # I don't see a problem with that 10.46.56 # Zagor: There is a problem 10.47.15 # Holding Right (equal to Play for Ondio) is ffw 10.47.37 # amiconn: can you think of another way? 10.48.03 # well frankly I don't see how we can add the context menu to ondio at all. we can barely fit the current wps features. 10.48.52 Join _Headie [0] (~hehe@fsto6.sto.sema.se) 10.49.18 Quit Headie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.54.51 # Btw: does anybody know c++ here? I want a class to contain a reference as a member variable. How do I initialize that? 10.55.02 # (not for rockbox code of course) 10.55.19 # LinusN: all short+long presses are taken in the Ondio wps :( 10.55.45 # kurzhaarrocker: the constructor? 10.55.55 # amiconn: :-( 10.56.13 # yes but what syntax. It seems it must be done in the initializer list of the constructor somehow. 10.56.19 # i think we have to live with the ondio not having all gui features of the other players 10.58.22 # kurzhaarrocker: you can have an argument to the constructor 10.59.09 # i assume the object it refers to is unknown at compile time 10.59.19 Join mirfle [0] (~d4963cc9@labb.contactor.se) 11.00.09 # Yes, I have that parameter. But when I try to assign that parameter to the member variable in the body of the constructor the compiler complains that it should be done in the initializer list of the constructor. 11.01.04 # i'm no c++ guru, but if the compiler says so, then you should probably do it :-) 11.01.28 # I simply don't know the syntax of how to do it :( 11.01.47 # constructor(params) : variable(value) 11.02.24 # myclass::myclass(int *bla) : m_bla(bla) { ... } 11.02.31 # methinks 11.03.32 # The problem is that with variable(value) it seaches for an constructor to create that variable. But I simply want to assign to that member variable. 11.04.17 # of course it searches for a constructor, all declarations do that. but since it doesn't find a constructor it will just assign it. 11.05.43 # or are you saying your compiler complains about it? 11.05.48 # * kurzhaarrocker tries again 11.11.10 # Works. Thanks. I could have sworn that I tried that before. 11.11.10 # * kurzhaarrocker stupid 11.14.25 Quit mirfle ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.20.07 # i wonder if we should have a special handling for the "open with" for the wps, since it only uses audio filetypes 11.20.39 # maybe have another viewers.txt-ish file 11.21.42 # today, the only wps-callable viewer is favorites.rock 11.22.20 # splitedit? 11.22.26 # ah 11.24.17 # LinusN: a propos viewers.txt. This concept broke the individual icon display for the dynamic file types on the player... 11.24.39 # oh? 11.24.55 # * LinusN runs to his sick kid 11.25.32 # lunch 12.05.10 # <_Headie> hiatus 12.12.10 Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 12.28.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.28.06 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 14.32.56 Join Digital007 [0] (~acbf63d2@labb.contactor.se) 15.09.37 # Oh, LinusN, I nearly forgot: I encountered another broken recording. Do you want the file? 15.13.05 Join Lynx_ [0] (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 15.18.28 Quit Digital007 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.19.16 # (poor LinusN seems to be very busy tending sick kids) 15.23.04 # funny: the feature freeze seems to have worked in reverse. Before V2.3 there were numerous commits, but afterwards it stagnates. 15.23.38 # :) 15.24.52 # kurzhaarrocker: It was a feature freeze, not a commit freeze 15.25.09 # There were numerous button bugs to fix. 15.27.58 # I know. But normally I'd expect that you get feature freeze -> feature dew -> feature bloat 15.28.39 # we were away thursday-sunday too 15.28.42 # Maybe the server unavailability frightened the developers 15.30.04 # Does that mean you didn't do anything when you were away, Zagor? :o 15.30.04 # amiconn: that's something else, that's server freeze. 15.33.42 # kurzhaarrocker: I was busy adapting the installer (okay, I *could* have done more than that) 15.53.58 # kurzhaarrocker: i wish i had brought a laptop, since it was raining the entire time. but i didn't. 15.54.55 # Hm. Is rain good for luring eels? 15.57.32 # lol 16.26.36 # Regarding features: I'd like to change the total/free space display (in rockbox info) to dynamically adapt the decimal point & unit. However this either requires several new .lang entries for strings & voice (and deprecating the old ones), or if there shouldn't be too many deprecated entries, the changes would not be backwards compatible. 16.26.36 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.28.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.28.51 Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.30.03 # I wonder which way would be better... 16.37.22 # Maybe we can keep backwards compatibility till V2.4 16.58.25 # amiconn: new lang entries are ok. we don't have to deprecate the old ones yet imho. 17.02.26 Part kurzhaarrocker 17.04.41 # Zagor: Currently, there are LANG_DISK_FREE_STAT, LANG_DISK_STAT, which both include the unit and the decimal point, and VOICE_POINT for voicing the decimal point. For the adaptive display, I'd need 2 LANG_ entries having a %s in place of the number, the decimal point and the unit "multiplicator" (K/M/G), and a LANG_ entry for the decimal point that is both usable for voiceing and display (e.g. English uses ".", German uses ",") 17.08.28 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50c61d70.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 17.10.05 Join mecraw__ [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 17.23.01 Part Zagor 17.28.46 Join Headie [0] (~hehe@fsto6.sto.sema.se) 17.28.46 Quit _Headie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.41.02 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 18.22.44 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.23.13 Join Lynx_ [0] (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 18.28.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.38.54 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.51.24 Join nobbynobbs [0] (Nobby@ACCAF63A.ipt.aol.com) 19.20.34 Quit AciD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.28.25 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 19.38.41 Join AciD [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 19.40.46 Quit nobbynobbs (Read error: 232 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.58.52 Join Alex [0] (HydraIRC@host81-154-193-152.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) 20.03.19 # I'm looking to help development on RockBox, but haven't really done anything like this before... Any stuff I should read up on before start to cry as I look at the code? 20.05.54 # (ordering my ihp 140 iriver tonight :D) 20.07.51 # rockbox doesn't work on the iriver platforms yet... 20.08.01 # Yeah, I know ;) 20.08.07 # That's why I'm looking to help ;) 20.08.09 # You're an optimist? :) 20.08.19 # You don't think it will work? 20.08.44 # it seems to be coming along quite nicely to me, isn't it? 20.08.57 # I hope so because I've just sold my MD player ;) 20.09.37 # Considering the Haxx guys (Linus, Daniel, Björn, Kjell) I think they can do anything they put their minds to. 20.09.38 # (but, yeah, I am normally an optimist) 20.10.02 # :D good, good. It was Rockbox that made me choose an iRiver ;) 20.10.25 # The only reason I haven't gotten an iriver yet is my lack of funds ;) 20.10.53 # To be honest, I do keep a great amount of respect for the core team. 20.10.55 # :) 20.12.58 # BTW, (to all:) I'm currently setting up a little site which lets people buy stuff from amazon.co.uk through a refferal. All funds generated will be donated to rockbox. I stick a link here once there's a vaguely usable test page up ;) 20.14.58 # (as I said, I wanted to help ;D) 20.16.46 # Really kind of you 20.17.24 # heh I just hope it does actually get something ;) 20.20.00 # Alex: you should have the referral link added to the project home page 20.20.28 # the rockbox page? 20.20.33 # yeah 20.20.51 # (btw: a little beta is at http://www.beverleychilcott.co.uk/cstg/newindex.php) 20.20.54 # could do actually 20.22.22 # (i'm working on that now so don't be surprised if things stop working ;D) 20.28.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.42.27 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a205.wi.tds.net) 20.42.45 Join mp3glee [0] (~421ce25b@labb.contactor.se) 20.43.42 # Does anyone have a .vbs script to create the .talk files for tracks? 20.49.24 Quit mp3glee ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.20.00 Join pfavr [0] (~Peter_Fav@213.237.46.232.adsl.ron.worldonline.dk) 21.20.29 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a205.wi.tds.net) 21.34.07 Quit Strath (Nick collision from services.) 21.34.10 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a205.wi.tds.net) 21.52.38 Quit methangas (" WOW! 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