--- Log for 07.12.104 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 27 days and 1 hour ago 00.00.25 # we write a new firmware 00.00.37 # we don't change the iriver one 00.00.58 # so its not a case of changing a byte which had that screen hidden? 00.01.29 # it could possibly be that 00.01.41 # but that's not what we work with 00.01.47 # but no-one knows which byte it is 00.02.12 # the thing is, rockbox for iriver is miles off. iriver for iriver is here, and the feature is there, its just turned off 00.02.41 # you mean the rumours have it that way 00.03.06 # if someone could discover the feature, perhaps they could discover how to turn it on, and even if ye won't make a version of the firmware but mentioned which byte values have to be changed, I could perhaps update the firmware myself 00.05.06 # hmm, does DaveHooper use IRC? 00.05.10 # I doubt it is about toggling a byte or two 00.05.24 # but I don't know 00.05.34 # no idea on DaveHooper 00.07.25 # ah well, still think it would be interesting to hear what it sounds like 00.07.37 # man, its late. gtg 00.07.39 # thanks 00.07.42 Quit MikeW () 00.15.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.15.51 Join napster [0] (psycho666@napster.user) 00.20.52 Join mecraw__ [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 00.21.15 Quit AciD`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.21.59 Join AciD`` [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 00.25.42 Part napster 00.26.04 Quit ripnetUK () 00.27.49 Quit Tang ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041108]") 00.32.53 Join Digital007 [0] (~acca73a6@labb.contactor.se) 00.38.08 Quit AciD`` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.38.58 Join AciD`` [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 00.40.31 Quit AciD`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.58.24 Quit Digital007 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.59.39 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 01.12.42 Join Cassandra [0] (Cassandra@dawnmist.demon.co.uk) 01.30.54 Join GravyGoat [0] (~dangit@h69-128-244-154.69-128.unk.tds.net) 01.32.06 Quit mecraw__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.47.03 Quit Cassandra () 01.52.37 Part LinusN 01.53.35 Quit GravyGoat (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.15.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.17.22 Join adi|ems [0] (~chatzilla@host-64-179-64-21.alb.choiceone.net) 03.35.26 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.35.41 Quit Headie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.35.56 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 04.07.28 Join Headie [0] (~Headie@h103n2fls32o873.telia.com) 04.15.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.12.15 Join Hoho [0] (~Headie@h103n2fls32o873.telia.com) 05.12.28 Quit Headie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.06.34 Join midk_ [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 06.15.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.17.50 Quit midk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.21.53 Quit adi|ems ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]") 07.17.52 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 07.19.45 Quit scott666_ ("i'll be back...eventually...") 07.20.47 Join Josh-File [0] (Josh_@210-86-104-191.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) 07.21.15 # Blah? 07.22.22 # Would it be possible to right a Chess or Checkers game for Rockbox? 07.27.25 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.29.28 # This is dead 07.29.58 # Josh-Files +o 07.35.58 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.36.59 # Josh-File: yes, it is certainly possible to write a chess game 07.38.53 # Uh, I know a little bit of C++, what language is needed to program plugins/ 07.43.45 # C 07.44.48 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 07.46.08 # Will I need to do any mods to my Jukebox Recorder 15 to be able to recive data for testing, I don't know much about Archos Players, Only Got Today. 07.48.05 Join oxygen77 [0] (~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net) 07.48.35 # "data for testing"? 07.48.41 Part oxygen77 ("Cho") 07.50.39 # Such as errors, dumplogs, and other things of that nature 07.51.31 # well, if you need a log, open a file and write to it 07.51.49 # then use USB to read it 07.54.22 # Hmm seems easy enough, now to dig up that Chess AI I programed a while ago. 07.55.05 # you don't even need a jukebox to develop plugins 07.55.14 # you can use the simulator 07.55.25 # Were is the simulator? 07.55.53 # in cvs 07.56.50 # How much RAM is taken up by Rockbox its self? 07.57.19 # about 180k 07.57.42 # for the executable 07.58.10 # when you run it, you have roughly 1.6mb left for mp3 buffering 07.59.13 # Yay, all thats left is to recreate the graphics, and map the buttons 08.01.02 # remember, rockbox plugins have only 32kb at their disposal 08.01.28 # Is $131 good for a Archos Recorder 15? 08.01.50 # sounds like a good deal 08.02.01 # it's the USB1.1 model? 08.02.16 # Nope, 2.0 08.02.28 # http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5735247305&ssPageName=ADME:B:BN:US:1 08.04.15 # This would be good for people who know the how to repair them http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=48682&item=5736456806&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW 08.04.35 # good, most rec15 jukeboxes i've come across have only USB1.1 08.05.42 # I live in New-Zealand, Waiting for him to Email me back with shipping 08.07.27 # Is the Image still viewable on the Screen in black and white? 08.09.25 # as opposed to? 08.10.34 # Well, if you were viewing a cartoon or a movie, is it possible to make out the characters and tell what thier doing? 08.11.04 # And can you output to a television? 08.11.53 # well, the movie playback is viewable, but not more than that 08.12.05 # and no, there is no video output 08.12.55 # How is the audio quality? 08.13.06 # very good imho 08.13.17 # Greetings! 08.13.23 # yo dwihno 08.14.39 # Is there a audio output? 08.15.12 # the Ear Out works as Line Out too, and you have coaxial S/PDIF in/out 08.15.13 # has the button code changes affected recorder units as well, or am I just experiencing the placebo effect? 08.15.26 # dwihno: eh? 08.15.36 # button code changes, perhaps a week ago or os 08.15.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.16.00 # yes, but what effect are you referring to? 08.16.20 # feels like the interface is more responsive :) 08.17.11 # Yay with the money I save from getting a Zen Touch, I can afford some Grado SR-80 Headphones and a Headsave Classic. 08.17.39 # dwihno: pure imagination 08.18.09 # LinusN: Guess so :) 08.25.15 Join adi|ems [0] (~chatzilla@host-64-179-64-21.alb.choiceone.net) 08.25.46 Nick adi|ems is now known as adi|hotel (~chatzilla@host-64-179-64-21.alb.choiceone.net) 08.28.55 # anyone awake? 08.29.19 # I am 08.29.37 # Its only 8:30 Pm on Wendsday In New Zealand 08.33.57 # adi|hotel: howdy 08.37.54 # Dead............. 08.39.16 # My Cats Sleeping on my at the moment 08.40.00 # 2nd My=Me 08.41.07 # Now that These players are becoming rare, what are you going to do when no-one has one? 08.42.35 # rest? 08.42.56 # well, we are porting rockbox to the iriver H-series 08.43.02 # Yay 08.43.19 # So you're not going to work on the AV300/400's? 08.43.27 # nope 08.43.34 # Irivers are cool 08.43.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort 08.45.02 # but the H1xx series is going out of production as well :-) 08.45.38 # Does the firmware have a Private key at all? 08.46.12 # "the firmware"? 08.46.17 # "private key"? 08.47.21 # i'll try to decipher your question: "is the firmware encrypted?" 08.47.32 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 08.47.33 # and the answer is "yes" 08.47.41 # morning Zagor 08.47.49 # morning 08.48.02 # What Encryption Standerd Does it have? 08.48.14 # which firmware are you referring to? 08.48.22 # archos or iriver? 08.48.25 # Iriver 08.49.14 # I can Crack DES, but not 3DES 08.49.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverToolsGuide#A_short_description_of_the_decry 08.50.19 # i don't know if that algorithm is standard or not 08.51.35 # What Is the Encryption Standerd of Archos? 08.52.02 # it's not a standard, it's home-cooked 08.53.36 # Anyone here a Audiophile apart from me? 08.54.23 # well, depends on the meaning of the term. several of us appreciate good sound. 08.54.56 # Well, Hmm, anyone know what Grado SR-80's are? 08.55.00 # yes 08.55.26 # You know what a EMU 0404 is? 08.55.46 # the sound card? 08.55.50 # Yep 08.56.14 # sure 08.56.21 # Since you know, I'm going to presume you have a sweet setup, what do you have? 08.57.14 # i don't, actually... :) just a basic NAD with b&w 503s. 08.58.55 # Heh, Basic Now, but hoping to get some alessandro MS1's with a Headsave Classic 09.03.07 # 0_0 my chair just collapsed when I was sitting on it\ 09.03.27 # neato. personally I only listen to headphones when I'm on the move, so I haven't listened much to the high-end "stationary use" ones. 09.08.09 # Whats a Fair Price to Pay for a Archos Jukebox Recorder 15 (USB 2.0) 09.08.46 Quit adi|hotel ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]") 09.10.24 # first, I'd look for 20s. the 15 is a fringe model that reportedly exist in both USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 variants. the rec20 only exists in USB 2.0. 09.11.21 # I've already payed for it, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5735247305&ssPageName=ADME:B:BN:US:1 says its USB 2.0 and look at his feedback 09.12.12 # ok. $131 seems like a good price. 09.12.43 # "Rockbox Software installed. (priceless) This makes your archos 500% better." :-) 09.13.36 # Zagor, How long did it take to code Rockbox? 09.14.03 # well, we started nov 2001. 09.15.14 # Wow, you should devoloup some relationship between Smash and Rockbox, such as you type your message, then when you connect it to a PC, it sends the message 09.15.31 # :) 09.15.48 # i don't know who would want to type messages on the archos... 09.17.35 # Hmm, Virtual Keyboard. 09.19.36 # Is Smash possible of Spam Sending Messages 09.19.55 # if smash can send spam? sure. 09.20.03 # Josh-File: if the pictures on the ebay page are of the actual unit, it might be USB1.1 after all 09.20.40 # What do you estimate the maximum messages sent per minite would be? 09.20.40 # the text on the jukebox says "USB Hard Disk", but my rec20 says "USB2.0 Hard Disk" 09.21.05 # Josh-File: it depends on the SMSC 09.21.15 # i'd mail the seller and request assurance that the device is indeed usb 2.0 09.21.56 # Josh-File: but if you use smash for sending spam, i'd personally seek you up and hit you :-) 09.22.05 # Josh-File: smash uses dial-up sms centers, which charge per message. so I doubt many people are going to use it for spamming. 09.23.57 # So its added onto your phonebill 09.24.02 # Damn 09.25.37 # Linis and Zagor, I notice your both from Sweden, do you know each other in real life? 09.25.44 # yes 09.26.52 # I'm amazed how much a simple google search of a name brings up. 09.27.10 # :) 09.28.51 # The labb.contactor.se email adress, it this a public or a private email service? 09.31.04 # private 09.32.42 # I can't read swedish, how do you get one? 09.33.57 # well, you set up a machine and connect it to the net. 09.34.31 # Do you know whats painful, my Jukebox Recorder 15 would arrive on the day before christmas, but since they don't deliver on that day, it'll get there 1 day after 09.35.45 # ow :) 09.37.14 # Is there anything special you need to do after you've coded the extextion file to make it work? 09.37.46 # i don't follow you. what are you trying to do? 09.38.47 # Make a chess game, I've got the code ready, but how do you make it work as a RockBox Extention File? 09.39.05 # Coded In C++ 09.39.26 # have you built rockbox? 09.39.57 # No. 09.40.02 # see here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 09.41.42 # Im amazed no-ones made a Chess game before, its a pretty popular game. 09.42.20 # yeah. how are you representing the pieces? 09.44.38 # IDK, I took some source from a game that works on PC's, but it used way to much RAM to use on Archos. 09.46.15 # I really dont wanna make my on program, I'm to noobish for that, So I try to mod some other source to work on Rockbox 09.48.16 # be prepared it will take lots of modifications. for starters, the display is a lot smaller on the archos than on any pc. it's even smaller than most modern phones. and the graphic routines are nothing like on a PC either. 09.49.15 # Are they simular to phones? 09.49.46 # no, they are home-cooked like everything else 09.50.49 # is it possible to add a new core to the player to make it faster? 09.51.20 # a new core? you mean like a faster cpu? 09.51.27 # Yes 09.51.31 # no, it's not 09.54.08 # With the Calcuator Plugin, I could take the player to School and Say that its my Calcuator. 09.54.23 # :) 09.54.43 # But a reason for bringing headphones............ 09.57.18 # Is it possible to view cartoons enough to understand whats going on? 09.58.22 # Zagor, what time's it there? 09.58.40 # 10:00 09.58.51 # and yes, you can view cartoons 09.58.54 # AM or PM? 09.59.03 # we have 24-hour time here, so it's am 09.59.21 # Its 2200 here 10.00.22 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.00.39 # Zagor, what Archos Players do you own? 10.01.03 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 10.02.09 # AciD` are you there, or are you just connecting automaticly? 10.02.35 # Jukebox 6000, Recorder 20 and AV340. 10.02.47 # he is our resident yoyo 10.03.09 # Is the AV340 Worth it? 10.03.59 # depends on what you want to do. it's got a great screen for watching movies. but I never use it, so for me it was a waste of money. 10.05.15 # If you could get the AV320 for $200, would it be worth it? 10.06.26 # as I said, it depends on what you want to do. do you want to watch movies on the go? then yes, it's probably a good machine. but if you just want an mp3 player it's not a good choice. 10.09.35 Join Lynx_ [0] (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 10.13.48 # Ok, Whos really here and not just idling in this channel? 10.15.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.15.46 # we have a ~80% idle rate in this channel :-) 10.15.52 # It's a good thing! 10.16.00 # It looks better in the statistics 10.16.30 # heh 10.17.42 # LOOK ITS A STONED MONKEY OVER THERE <------- *Rubs away* 10.17.56 # Ooops Rubs should be Runs 10.18.02 # *Runs away* 10.21.11 # * Bagder unidles and looks around 10.22.06 # * Josh-File Eats Badger 10.22.44 # * Josh-File goes to badgerbadgerbadger.com 10.23.32 # * Bagder awaits Josh-File to read his nick again 10.23.48 # uh, my nick? 10.23.56 # my nick 10.24.38 # * Josh-File Throughs *Him* Out a Window 10.26.40 # * HCl frowns.. 10.27.33 # * Bagder decides its time for coffee 10.27.43 # hmm. 10.27.46 # not a bad idea. 10.27.51 # though i have energydrink.. 10.28.11 # * Josh-File Drinks Badgers Coffee and HC1's Coffe And Energydrink 10.29.08 # * HCl goes to class... 10.29.36 # * Josh-File eats HC1s class 10.33.33 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.49.42 Quit Josh-File (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.51.02 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 10.56.05 Join MooMaunder [0] (~me@194.152.87.150) 11.06.38 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.23.48 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 11.48.25 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.50.33 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l06v-7-8.d1.club-internet.fr) 11.50.36 # hi all 11.52.13 # anybody already try to install a Samsung SpinPoint M40 Series harddrive in Archos recorder??? 11.53.45 # http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=MP0804H&selTab=Specifications 12.03.12 Join webguest83 [0] (~864c5479@labb.contactor.se) 12.03.24 Quit webguest83 (Client Quit) 12.04.10 Nick mbryars is now known as darkskiez (~mbryars@usergc137.dsl.pipex.com) 12.06.27 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 12.12.18 # bobTHC, that looks huge 12.12.49 # 3.94" x 2.75" x 0.37" 12.13.05 # is that not a laptop hard disk 12.15.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.17.06 #>> "0.37 inches" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.17.13 #>> "convert 0.37 inches" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.17.21 # oh :) 12.17.59 # anyway, it will fit but will draw more power since it's spinning at 5400 rpm instead of the normal 4200 rpm 12.21.21 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.39.34 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 12.45.48 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.46.11 # those disconnects are really getting on my nerves 12.46.22 Join AciD`` [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 13.06.14 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 13.10.21 Quit AciD`` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.10.54 Join AciD`` [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 13.26.05 Join c0utta [0] (~d254e1e2@labb.contactor.se) 13.28.45 # LinusN, can you not configure your client to ignore them? 13.29.43 # i don't want to ignore them. i want to see when people come and go. i just don't want to see a silly bot/buggy client come and go every 10 minutes. 13.30.57 # Not all of them, just his :] 13.33.17 Join _c0utta [0] (~d254e1e2@labb.contactor.se) 13.36.54 # darkskiez: we log this channel, it's annoying to have it in the logs as well 13.37.26 # ban it/him? 13.42.06 Quit c0utta ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.42.17 # <_c0utta> die die die 13.42.22 Nick _c0utta is now known as c0utta (~d254e1e2@labb.contactor.se) 13.44.49 # was anyone kind enough to check out patch 911756 to correct a bookmarking bug ? 13.54.47 # not me. I'm in a bit of a "low" right now, having very little time for rockbox hacking 13.58.53 # it's such a major bug that i thought it would have been picked up a year ago 14.00.01 # well, you know. some of these modern bugs are multi-resistant :) 14.00.26 Quit AciD`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.01.01 # afaicr, you are the only one that have complained, except for the guy who wrote the patch 14.01.11 # so it can't be that major 14.02.17 # major to me :) 14.04.28 # looks like i'll be reinstalling the dev environment again 14.04.53 # i'll get back to you when i've verified/updated the patch 14.05.08 # i'm looking at it now 14.06.40 # you are a beautiful man linus 14.08.01 # * [IDC]Dragon looks at Linus' picture... 14.11.46 # i must get some sleep. i'll check the patch tracker to see how you go linus... 14.12.06 Quit c0utta ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 14.15.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.17.36 # the iriver firmware appears to only ever use two shades of gray 14.18.13 Join AciD`` [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 14.18.27 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.22.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> plus black and white? 14.22.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> (that would be the 4 levels) 14.22.42 # yup 14.23.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> that's as much as it can do, iirc 14.26.36 # yup 14.35.20 # no, it only uses white,gray and black. there is one more level never uses. 14.35.21 # used 14.36.07 # at least I can't see it used anywhere 14.36.24 # they dither instead 14.36.25 # Do I hear you say font antialiasing? :) 14.36.31 # no you don't :) 14.36.39 # :) 14.36.41 # yes I do! :) 14.36.54 # Meesa want font-aliasing-wingbang! 14.36.55 # :-) 14.37.23 # Speaking of which, isn't it time for the third star wars movie anytime soon? 14.38.16 # "Status: Post-production" -- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/ 14.38.57 # "18 months' post-production began mid-September" 14.39.14 # Chewbacca \o/ 14.39.32 # jar-jar 14.52.07 Quit AciD`` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.53.10 Join AciD`` [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 14.54.39 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 14.59.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor: "they dither instead"? where? 14.59.23 # the wps progress bar is one example 15.00.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> perhaps they liked a pattern 15.00.55 # and various icons 15.01.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> hmm, strange 15.01.29 # well the bar is drawn as several strips of gray, lightest on top then dithered and then black at the bottom 15.02.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> did anybody calculate if we can update the display for each scan? 15.02.14 # * [IDC]Dragon thinks of temporal dithering again 15.02.51 # i haven't 15.04.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> is there something like a VSYNC? 15.04.35 Quit HCl ("leaving") 15.15.19 # how many shades of gray is the iriver's display? 15.15.22 # 4? 15.15.24 # must be 16 15.15.37 # nope, 4 15.16.22 # hmm.. temporal dithering sounds like a good idea :) 15.57.01 Quit Bagder (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.57.01 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 15.57.01 Quit gromit`` (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.57.01 Quit Seed (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.57.01 Quit LinusN (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.59.46 NHeal niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 15.59.46 NJoin LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 15.59.48 NJoin Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 15.59.48 NJoin gromit`` [0] (~gromit`@82.234.244.69) 15.59.48 NJoin Seed [0] (ben@192.114.41.140) 16.03.20 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@84.97.160.28) 16.06.22 Quit AciD`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.06.45 Part Zagor 16.09.30 Part LinusN 16.09.59 Join Leety-Aravil [0] (~Miranda@pD952B584.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.15.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.23.39 Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 16.24.39 Join AciD`` [0] (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.27.44 # did we establish that the iRiver H140 has 32megs of ram? 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18.30.53 # About the buffer size 18.31.13 # i think it was notified on the iRiver FAQ 18.31.32 # but with the new website design would be hard to retrieve this 18.31.35 # :( 18.32.32 Part lImbus 18.40.29 Nick AciD`` is now known as AciD` (~gni@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 18.55.27 Quit Hadaka (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 18.55.27 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@naked.iki.fi) 18.57.58 Join Leety-Aravil [0] (~Leety-Ara@pD952B7D7.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.58.04 # hi 18.58.09 # speeks anyone german? 18.58.22 # buffer size? 18.58.36 # ??? 19.00.04 Part Leety-Aravil 19.03.25 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.17.33 Quit bobTHC ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 19.21.42 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 19.23.05 # hi Badger 19.23.32 # Someone asked if the buffer memory was 32 or 16Mb 19.23.37 # for the iHP140 19.37.27 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.37.44 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 19.38.01 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 19.58.47 Join Cassandra [0] (Cassandra@dawnmist.demon.co.uk) 20.04.45 # Tang: you're an iriver owner? 20.05.04 # yes indeed 20.05.15 # i own an iHP120 20.07.51 # Are they neat? 20.09.56 # Their software sucks according to the all-knowing Rockbox list. 20.10.31 # You know, one day in the not too distant future developers will design their hardware to be Rockbox compatible. 20.11.31 # That would be really nice 20.11.35 # Really, really nice. 20.11.52 # hum sorry i've to see with a translato 20.12.05 # the meaning of "neat" 20.12.13 # neat=cool? 20.12.34 # It'll happen. Give Rockbox a year or two and it'll do everything you could possibly want from a portable media player. Why develop your own software when better stuff is out there at zero cost? 20.12.49 # elegant, cool :) 20.13.23 # Cassandra: I'd love to see it happen, but my guts tell me, something has to happen before. 20.13.35 # i own the champaign version of iHP120 20.13.42 # i like his look 20.13.46 # Well, Rockbox has to get more portable. That's coming though. 20.13.50 # Cassandra: you think the giants such as iriver or creative would use such firmware? 20.13.52 # much more "neat" than all pictures 20.14.15 # dwhi 20.14.24 # The hardware is really cool 20.14.30 # (optical in/out etc) 20.14.46 # not a first, but who sells wireless ap routers these days that *aren't* running Linux under the cover? 20.14.47 # just a pity how the firmware sucks 20.15.19 # and more than the firmware it's the firmware support from iRiver wichi is simply null 20.15.32 # That's the big issue 20.15.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.15.54 # Once one of the smaller players starts it, the others will play catch up. 20.15.58 # (that's why the Rockbox port is the best thing that could happen) 20.16.16 # i've to go 20.16.18 # With rockbox running on the iriver, you think there will be a ketchup effect? 20.16.19 # cheers 20.16.29 # a ketchup effect? 20.16.35 # Although in that time frame large capacity MP3 players will also be heading towards commodity prcing - all the more reason not to pay for firmware if you don't have to. 20.16.38 # Was is das? 20.16.57 # will hackers from around the globe bend open their zens just to help the porting effort? 20.17.14 # I hope so. That'd be kind of cool. 20.17.32 # As they get obsolete, they'll fall into people's tinkering price range. 20.17.45 # So it may happen. 20.18.28 # Let's keep our fingers crossed. 20.20.43 # Hum i don't think so 20.21.05 # the Rockbox project is alive for years 20.21.22 # their firmware are releasble for many Archos stuff 20.21.44 # At the moment we have the best software for an obsolete platform. 20.21.56 # and apart Rockbox himself there has been nothing but vapourware about alt firmware project 20.22.07 # As rockbox becomes easier to port, that situation will change. 20.22.23 # The iHP isn't really obsolet 20.22.44 # Nope, but it might be by the time the port is done. 20.22.51 # it's simply the only deck with optical in/out 20.23.09 # the production is discontinued 20.23.11 # (But probably not - coldfire as an embedded platform has a lot more life in it than the SH1 20.23.29 # but the devicespotential is still here 20.24.47 Join Digital007 [0] (~acbea65d@labb.contactor.se) 20.24.50 # will depend on time it will take to make the port real 20.24.50 Quit Digital007 (Client Quit) 20.25.21 # I've to go, regards 20.25.27 # Tanguy 20.27.25 # regards 20.35.24 Join Digital007 [0] (~acbea65d@labb.contactor.se) 20.35.46 # hi 20.45.25 # hi! 20.46.19 Join quelsaruk [0] (~kvirc@80.103.135.82) 20.46.25 # good evening 20.49.14 # hi there 20.50.31 # everyone on misticriver.net is praying for rockbox on the iriver 20.52.10 # Bagder when rockbox is ported to iriver can u customise the WPS like the Archos to suit your requirements? 20.53.03 # weI there will be wps 20.53.03 # as well probably a separate wps on the remote as well 20.53.08 # wups 20.53.22 Quit AciD` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.53.56 # yea because im hoping to make the irivers' WPS look like the iPods with the words "Now Playing" on the top centre of the screen 20.54.08 # The interface will remain the same, at least initially so yes, custom WPS will certainly be available. 20.54.11 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 20.54.18 # A mate of mine has bought a Creative Labs Zen Touch 20.54.44 # the interface on the Zen Touch is almost identical to the iPod 20.56.24 # even the touchstrip makes the same clicking sound as the ipods wheel 20.59.03 # damn those copycats :) 21.01.31 Join adiamas [0] (~c616ece6@labb.contactor.se) 21.01.54 # Thank you XP tablet edition for deciding I am no longer worthy to use the input panel. 21.01.57 # *sigh* 21.17.00 Quit adiamas ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.24.19 # well white with silver backs seems popluar 21.24.21 # popular 21.27.13 # see ipod, zen touch, 21.27.33 # My Archsos has a silver back. 21.27.38 # All the paint came off. 21.40.21 # And therein I suspect lies the reason why silver backs are popular. 21.49.24 Join scott666_ [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-58-48.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.49.52 # Cassandra: my paint has come off on the entire unit... it looks rather torn 21.49.56 # Still ticking though! 22.07.35 # God knows how they survive with Archos crappy design process. 22.08.13 # Mine is still running because I soldered the two pins that comprise Archos idea of a power connector together. 22.15.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.16.55 # I've had my unit for 2 years, 6 months and 15 days 22.17.00 # It's been rock solid 22.17.04 # I've opened it up twice. 22.17.18 # Once to get rid of some dirt and polish the display 22.17.27 # the second time, to put i a new disk 22.22.30 Nick quelsaruk is now known as Quel|away (~kvirc@80.103.135.82) 22.22.40 # * Quel|away bowling a bit 22.37.18 # You have been lucky. 22.37.36 # My original Jukebox went back twice under warranty. 22.37.45 # The second time Archos lost it. 22.38.15 # my first was stolen 22.39.35 # :( 22.39.40 # Can't really blame Archos for that. :) 22.39.49 # My unit has been put through a lot of stress. I always ride my bike to work 22.39.57 # Even during the winters 22.40.00 # Unless there's some sinister conspiracy I'm not in on. 22.40.06 # So I keep the unit in my chest pocket :) 22.40.12 # Still rolling 22.40.13 # \o/ 22.40.38 # Hope you don't listen while cycling. That sounds dangerous (mostly to you) 22.44.45 # The city is great for bikers 22.45.11 # I cross the streets only 4-5 timmes on my way to work 22.45.31 # which is, at the other part of the town 22.49.35 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7F9AB.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.52.55 # Ah - that's different. I've lived in the two most bike friendly cities in England and there's no way you're getting around in them without going on the road. 22.53.13 # heya amiconn 22.53.29 # hi 22.53.43 # Cassandra: The perks of northern sweden \o/ 22.53.51 # (and of course, the penguins and polar bears) 23.14.51 Join mecraw__ [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 23.16.34 # penguins and polar bears at the same place is truly an unusual sight 23.18.04 Join markun [0] (~markun@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 23.19.32 # I'm having a little trouble building a cross compiler for m68k-elf, maybe someone here can help? 23.20.09 # you follow the wiki page description? 23.20.49 # Yes, I used the CVS version of binutils, compiled without a problem. 23.21.14 # When compiling gcc-3.4.2 I get an assambler error 23.21.37 # Like this: /var/tmp//ccnj65kR.s:29: Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored 23.21.54 # actually, my experience with building gcc is that it often is troublesome 23.22.31 # markun: and the PATH is set correctly before you tried this I assume? 23.22.50 # I also tried gcc-3.4.3, but got the same problem. It's while compiling ./libgcc2.c 23.23.15 # I haven't built the m68k-elf myself yet 23.23.26 # Yes, I used the right path. It the binutils fine during ./configure 23.23.41 # .. detected .. 23.24.08 # I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 btw.. 23.24.22 # we have gcc 3.4.1 m68k-elf on the web host 23.24.31 # so that worked for Linus 23.24.47 # you used the binutils from cvs? 23.25.10 # Linus did, yes, he's the one who sent in the patches needed to make things work 23.26.58 # I can try gcc-3.4.1, maybe that helps (the wiki page told me to use 3.4.2 for m68k-elf..) 23.27.47 # yes, I see that 23.28.13 # it makes me suspect that Linus got it working with 3.4.2 23.29.27 # It also doesn't mention any patches to get m68k-elf to compile 23.29.48 # m68k-elf? 23.30.10 Quit mecraw_ (Connection timed out) 23.30.37 # well, gcc-3.4.2 for m68k-elf 23.30.56 # no, there shouldn't be any needed patches 23.31.31 # unless I've missed something 23.35.10 # Do you think it would be a good idea to add more unicode support for platforms with some more ram? (iriver H1XX) 23.36.58 # yes I think so 23.37.08 # I wrote a little utf-8 decoder 23.37.22 # and converted a unicode bdf font. 23.37.42 # Now I want to see if I can the tags from vorbis files with libtremor. 23.40.32 # I was realy surprized to see that the stock firmware of my iriver even displays the esperanto titles in some of my ogg files right :) 23.40.53 # hehe 23.41.09 # I was surprised to see that it failed to read the id3 tags of some of my mp3s ;-) 23.41.21 # I did not try any mp3 files so far 23.41.52 Quit AciD` (Connection timed out) 23.43.06 # Did you notice the bug that sometimes the HD doesn't spinn down? 23.43.21 # yes 23.43.36 # I found it amusing ;-) 23.44.23 # It's very easy to triger. 23.45.00 Join AciD` [0] (~gni@acid.user) 23.47.33 # One more question about gcc: can I just as well download gcc-core-3.4.2.tar.bz2 instead of gcc-3.4.2.tar.bz2?