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00.05.50 #       <Bagder> I guess you can
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00.05.58 #       <Bagder> you only need the C compiler
00.09.26 #       <amiconn> Cassandra: Still there?
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00.14.37 #       <markun> bagder: gcc-3.4.1 gives the same error :(
00.15.36 #       <Bagder> :-/
00.15.51 #       <Bagder> post a Q on the mailing list
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00.16.10 #       <markun> ok, I will
00.16.12 #       <Bagder> I go sleep
00.16.24 #       <markun> good night!
00.17.39 #       <amiconn> nite Bagder
00.17.42 #       <Cassandra> Ami - I'm here
00.18.35 #       <amiconn> I'm currently reading your 2.3 manual draft, and have some remarks...
00.20.08 #       <amiconn> (1) In the TOC, all plugin names are written in all caps, except "VBRfix"
00.20.43 #       <amiconn> (2) p. 12: The safe poweroff descriptions are mixed up.
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00.21.38 #       <amiconn> V2/FM do safe poweroff with holding "Off", as does the Ondio. The recorder V1 has the double-Off safe poweroff, and the player has safe poweroff only available from the menu
00.22.34 #       <amiconn> (3) The picture quality is sometimes rather bad (way too heavy jpeg compression?), namely the Unit photos and the player screenshots
00.22.49 #       <Cassandra> Ah, so I need to fix the docs to say that it's on the menu on the player
00.23.08 #       <Cassandra> Not much I can do about that, I'm afraid.
00.23.25 #       <Cassandra> It's a "screen optimised" PDF.
00.24.18 #       <Cassandra> Player screenshots taken from the Windows emulator are also for shit (although I thought I'd replaced all those).
00.24.25 #       <amiconn> (4) p.13: The On+Play functionality is also available by holding Play a bit longer
00.25.33 #       <amiconn> (5) Is there a reason why the "z" and "s" forms of verbs (e.g. realized/realised) are mixed up?
00.25.56 #       <Cassandra> Not really - they should all be 's' form.
00.25.57 #       <amiconn> (6) p.15: "ON+LEFT/RIGH" misses a "T"
00.26.26 #       <amiconn> (7) p.17: there's an extra bullet which shouldn't be there
00.27.41 #       <amiconn> (8) p.20: When describing the upside down feature, it would perhaps be useful to mention that the buttons (where it makes sense) also switch function
00.28.46 #       <amiconn> I personally never use the "screen optimized" setting of Acrobat or such. The "eBook" setting looks much better imho, even on the screen
00.29.52 #       <Cassandra> I have 3 choices.  Screen optimized, Print Optimized or Press Optimized
00.29.53 #       <amiconn> The unit photos could be redone from the raw scans. This would be necessary anyway if you change LEFT/RIGHT for players to MINUS/PLUS
00.30.20 #       <Cassandra> 1 is 300k, 2 is 600k, don't want to think about the other one.
00.30.34 #       <Cassandra> Actually it wouldn't.
00.30.53 #       <Cassandra> The originals are stored in GIMP and have layers
00.31.04 #       <Cassandra> But I have nothing to scan them from anyway.
00.31.20 #       <amiconn> Ah ok. I have the raw scans from Linus (5 MB each)
00.31.50 #       * Cassandra thinks. What's the DPI on those?
00.32.31 #       <Cassandra> Can you try reducing them to 300dpi then let me know how big they are.
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00.33.34 #       <amiconn> This is actually around 300 dpi (.tif)
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00.35.07 #       <amiconn> Finally: Do you plan to add the Ondio? I would do it myself, but then I'm not a native english speaker....
00.38.01 #       <Cassandra> I may do.  I just want a release out the door first.
00.39.21 #       <Cassandra> TIFS - can you JPEG the files and see what they come out as?
00.39.38 #       <amiconn> Some more things: (9) TOC: Mixed use of (recorder only <-> recorders only)
00.39.51 #       <Cassandra> On the recorder V1 do you hold or tap ON to turn in on?
00.40.45 #       <amiconn> I only tap it, but then I have rockbox flashed. Maybe it's necessary to hold a little longer when the unit is not flashed
00.41.31 #       <amiconn> Same goes for player: As described, it's necessary to hold On for ~3 sec. When flashed, tapping it is sufficient.
00.42.02 #       <amiconn> (10) TOC, Part6, 1: "customizing" with z
00.43.46 #       <Cassandra> You can't flash players.
00.44.03 #       <amiconn> Don't worry about player flashing yet - so far my player is probably the only flashed player :) It's will most likely in the next release
00.44.15 #       <amiconn> s/It's/It/
00.44.32 #       <Cassandra> OK
00.44.34 #       <amiconn> Grr, "..be in the.."
00.48.10 #       <Cassandra> ???
00.49.08 #       <amiconn> Two corrections for one short sentence :(
00.49.55 #       <amiconn> "It will most likely be in the next release"
00.53.49 #       <amiconn> (11) p.22, about storing settings: Perhaps mention, "..or shut down safely as described on p. 12"
00.55.06 #       <Cassandra> Shutdown is only on the Player menus, right?
00.56.46 #       <amiconn> Yes, as the other models have it available by other means
00.57.09 #       <Cassandra> That's Cool - just want to make sure it's Documented.
00.57.48 #       <Cassandra> My life really would be a lot easier if I had one of everything that Rockbox runs on.
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00.59.25 #       <amiconn> That's true for. Developing and debugging got a lot easier since I have 3 rockboxable devices. I'm only missing an FM recorder...
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01.01.36 #       <Cassandra> Well you can't have mine.
01.01.37 #       <markun> Hi Linux, I'm having trouble getting the cross compiler for m68k-elf to compiler here in FreeBSD.
01.01.42 #       <Cassandra> :)
01.01.45 #       <markun> Linus :) sorry
01.03.52 #       <LinusN> howdy
01.04.06 #       <LinusN> markun: ok, what seems to be the problem?
01.04.34 #       <markun> The assembler is complaining when compiling libgcc2.c:
01.04.53 #       <markun> /var/tmp//cc6VVVNZ.s: Assembler messages:
01.04.58 #       <markun> /var/tmp//cc6VVVNZ.s:29: Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored
01.05.20 #       <Cassandra> So what are people's thoughts on the size of the manual PDF is "print quality" worth doubling the filesize (300k -> 600k)?
01.05.21 #       <markun> I use the binutils from CVS.
01.07.12 #       <markun> I tried gcc-3.4.1 3.4.2 and 3.4.3. They all fail at the same spot.
01.08.03 #       <LinusN> Cassandra: i don't think 600k is that large
01.08.09 #       <Cassandra> Shutdown is right at the bottom of the player menu, isn't it?
01.08.23 #       * Cassandra shrugs. I suppose not really.
01.08.56 #       <LinusN> markun: i haven't built with the latest binutils cvs for a long time, maybe there is a (temporary) bug in it
01.09.53 #       <amiconn> Cassandra: (12) p.39: The "voice directories: on enter" setting is gone. Instead it is now possible to voice file names as well
01.10.09 #       <Cassandra> Huh?
01.10.10 #       <LinusN> Cassandra: yes it is at the bottom of the main menu
01.11.06 #       <amiconn> Argh, correction: It is now possible to voice file names _with a .talk file_ as well
01.13.03 #       <amiconn> (13) p.43: The rockblox description says OFF: exit tetris
01.13.42 #       <amiconn> (and it should be mentioned that the button assignment is described with the correct view to the screen - from the left)
01.14.40 #       <markun> binutils-2.15 stable did the trick
01.15.21 #       <LinusN> markun: then you will not be able to compile rockbox
01.15.22 #       <Cassandra> Back in a few.
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01.16.47 #       <markun> From what date is your binutils?
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01.21.00 #       <LinusN> markun: from mid-october something
01.21.45 #       <LinusN> 2004-09-22
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01.22.59 #       <markun> I now compiled gcc using the stable binutils and the firmware with the binutils from cvs. I think it worked.
01.24.27 #       <LinusN> allright
01.24.57 #       <markun> Thanks, I'm off to bed now
01.25.24 #       <LinusN> sleep tight
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01.34.45 #       <amiconn> LinusN: I think it should be possible to add automatic level control for recording (using the same info th epeak meter uses), or am I wrong? May be useful for voice recordings
01.35.36 #       <LinusN> in theory, yes
01.35.56 #       <midk> didn't someone else write that?
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02.09.47 #       <Cassandra> hello again
02.09.51 #       <Cassandra> ami: still here?
02.10.03 #       <Cassandra> I'm caught up with you now - got any more for me,
02.14.59 #       <Cassandra> brb
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02.23.08 #       <amiconn> hello again. I have more info for you (in fact about twice the amount I already told you)
02.23.33 #       <amiconn> ...but not now, gotta sleep
02.24.14 #       <amiconn> Perhaps I should put the info together and mail it, instead of cluttering the channel
02.26.18 #       <amiconn> Beware! I still didn't use "nitpicker mode" for reading the manual!
02.26.21 #       <Cassandra> Oh ick
02.26.27 #       <Cassandra> Yes please
02.26.31 #       <Cassandra> You scare me.
02.26.38 #       <amiconn> ;-)
02.26.39 #       <Cassandra> In a good way.
02.26.55 #       <amiconn> Nite
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02.27.10 #       <Cassandra> night
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09.21.44 #       <ricII> where sould the rocks go these day, been away for while. /.rockbox/rocks/ ?
09.22.59 #       <Zagor> yes
09.24.49 #       <ricII> ah but why doesn't the jpeg plugin work then.. no viewer found, or is it not ready yet?
09.25.47 #       <Zagor> you need the viewers.conf too. basically, you need to unzip the whole archive.
09.26.57 #       <amiconn> ..and the viewers go into /.rockbox/viewers instead of /.rockbox/rocks. Unzipping the whole archive is the easiest solution
09.27.35 #       <ricII> O i got a daily + rocks.
09.28.06 #       <Zagor> there is no daily+rocks since several months!
09.28.17 #       <Zagor> dailies are zip files too
09.28.29 #       <Zagor> or do you mean bleeding?
09.28.46 #       <Zagor> if so, use daily instead
09.29.57 #       <ricII> yes y'r right as alway Zagor thx
09.31.12 #       <ricII> any change we can do something with the sylt or uslt tags ?
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09.32.13 #       <Zagor> ricII: what are those?
09.32.50 #       <ricII> (un)sync lirics tags 
09.33.36 #       <Zagor> sounds suitable for a plugin 
09.34.48 #       <ricII> would be nice if it could be used in wps..
09.37.02 #       <ricII> the synchronized ones I mean, a plugin can't do that not?
09.37.14 #       <Zagor> a plugin could do that
09.39.36 #       <ricII> been away to long, need to recheck source. 
09.41.14 #       <Zagor> even if the current plugin api lacks something necessary, it could be added. the point is I'm not sure lyrics is necessarily a core feature.
09.42.35 #       * kurzhaarrocker believes a moving line with lyrics in the wps would be a real show-off.
09.42.41 #       <ricII> probly not, but it would be nice. Rockbox would be one of the few supporting them.
09.44.27 #       <amiconn> The bad thing is that everyone continues to invent tag formats, instead sticking with/extending the existing ones. There are also "lyrics3" tags. These are editable by "The God father", but I didn't see any other program supporting them yet
09.44.53 #       <ricII> it's in the id3v2 specs
09.45.25 #       <amiconn> Hmm. Then I wonder why TGF marks them differently from ordinary id3v2 tags...
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09.48.32 #       <bobdbob> anyone know the status on newmp3technology.net?
09.48.41 #       <bobdbob> I placed an order last friday and haven't heard a thing
09.49.32 #       <bobdbob> is there a better place I can get a replacement battery for an FM recorder?
09.54.29 #       <Zagor> bobdbob: did you get an order confirmation or anything?
09.55.02 #       <bobdbob> I got the reply from 2checkout
09.55.08 #       <bobdbob> but nothing from newmp3 at all
09.55.18 #       <bobdbob> I send an email to sales@newmp3 and no response
09.55.27 #       <bobdbob> that was monday night
09.55.34 #       <bobdbob> so, I'll give them a little time
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09.55.57 #       <bobdbob> have you dealt with them before?
09.56.18 #       <Zagor> i've seen places sell batteries for the archos multimedia which might be the same type but i'm not 100% sure
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09.56.41 #       <Zagor> not directly, no. but i've heard people buy from them without problems.
09.57.15 #       <bobdbob> was that recently?
09.57.50 #       <Zagor> no, but it's not something that comes up very often so it doesn't have to mean anything
09.58.08 #       <bobdbob> ok
09.58.52 #       <bobdbob> I'm a little worried because I forgot to put my apartment # on the order form, so I e-mailed to add it on, but no response
09.59.04 #       <bobdbob> hopefully doesn't get sent back
10.00.04 #       <bobdbob> well, I guess I just give them a few more days... looks like pdainternalbattery.com also sells the batteries
10.00.37 #       <Zagor> maybe ask on their forum?
10.00.45 #       <LinusN> mike at newmp3tech seems to have busy peaks
10.01.07 #       <LinusN> so he has periods where he doesn't have time to reply to emails
10.01.32 #       <LinusN> problem is that the forgets to reply when he find the time later on
10.02.13 #       <bobdbob> heh
10.02.33 #       <bobdbob> ok, do you think I should just wait then?
10.02.56 #       <bobdbob> he'll get my order eventually, I hope...
10.03.00 #       <LinusN> yeah, give him a few days
10.03.05 #       <bobdbob> ok, thanks so much
10.03.47 #       <bobdbob> oh yeah... and the obligatory thanks for Rockbox 2.1, 2.2, and 2.3... works great as always
10.04.46 #       <bobdbob> I'm a computer engineering grad specializing in embedded systems... so I'm hoping to contribute once I'm done with this stupid "thesis" crap
10.04.53 #       <bobdbob> ;)
10.04.58 #       <bobdbob> night
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10.23.58 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Is it just here or is the rockbox.org site unusually slow today?
10.24.16 #       <LinusN> it is
10.25.31 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Are there know issues?
10.25.52 #       <LinusN> not that i know of
10.26.15 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :)
10.26.33 #       <LinusN> it's only a 2mbit line
10.27.02 #       <LinusN> and it's shared between several servers at contactor.se
10.27.24 #       <amiconn> LinusN: Björn changed http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS yesterday. The diff display doesn't work on this one...
10.27.35 #       <LinusN> saw that
10.30.08 #       <Zagor> not only servers, but also an entire office of download-happy users :)
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14.23.11 #       <quelsaruk> hi
14.23.13 #       <quelsaruk> good morning
14.23.14 #       <quelsaruk> :)
14.23.28 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Siesta is over?
14.23.34 #       <quelsaruk> hehehe
14.23.42 #       <amiconn> quelsaruk: Strange morning that is...
14.23.44 #       <quelsaruk> non-working day in spain
14.23.59 #       <quelsaruk> well.. since friday
14.24.01 #       <quelsaruk> :)
14.24.21 #       <quelsaruk> ok, good afternoon
14.24.34 #       <kurzhaarrocker> sounds like bad news: your non-working day is tomorrow :)
14.25.03 #       <quelsaruk> hehehe
14.25.40 #       <quelsaruk> non-working days: monday, tuesday and wednesday.. but i won't discuss if thursday is also non-working :P
14.27.08 #       <quelsaruk> btw, has anyone seen idc-dragon?
14.27.32 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I've seen a photo of him in the forums
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14.29.01 #       <quelsaruk> ouch
14.29.02 #       <quelsaruk> :/
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14.55.48 #       <Leety-Aravil> Wher kann I buy spare parts for my Jukebox Recorder?
14.56.44 #       <Zagor> http://newmp3technology.net
14.59.00 #       <Leety-Aravil> mp3technology don't shell the trink i need!
14.59.15 #       <Zagor> what do you need?
14.59.25 #       <Leety-Aravil> I had an Recorder 15!
14.59.42 #       <Zagor> so what do you need?
15.00.16 #       <Leety-Aravil> and i need the backplate ther the Motherboard is connected with the batteries and the HD!
15.00.31 #       <Leety-Aravil> My Backplate ist Brocken!
15.00.47 #       <Leety-Aravil> backplate meand Mp3Rear-8.1
15.01.05 #       <Zagor> I don't think archos sells them separately
15.01.12 #       <Leety-Aravil> i also!
15.01.36 #       <Leety-Aravil> but i asked nevertheless
15.02.11 #       <Leety-Aravil> do you know anyone ho had an bad Jukelbox Recorder?
15.02.45 #       <kurzhaarrocker> (aren't they all bad?)
15.02.45 #       <Leety-Aravil> it would be very great if he can shell me the Mp3Rar Plate!
15.03.01 #       <Leety-Aravil> my engish isn't good!
15.03.19 #       <kurzhaarrocker> sorry I was just kidding
15.03.19 #       <Leety-Aravil> ;D
15.03.57 #       <Zagor> i recommend searching ebay and similar sites
15.05.02 #       <Leety-Aravil> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=47624&item=3858809056&rd=1
15.05.04 #       <Leety-Aravil> lol
15.06.14 #       <Leety-Aravil> can i use the HD from teh Reecorder 15 in the 6?
15.06.30 #       <kurzhaarrocker> yes, that should work fine
15.08.38 #       <Leety-Aravil> i think i send teh Cecorder 15 to Archos!
15.09.17 #       <Leety-Aravil> it cost ca. 50 EUR but its betten than an new recorder!
15.10.22 #       <Leety-Aravil> but, if someone knows someone how has an bad Recorder an shell my the backplate (mp3rear), pls tell ist me!
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15.16.39 #       <elinenbe> bonjour, ciao, hello
15.17.27 #       <quelsaruk> hola
15.17.28 #       <quelsaruk> :D
15.17.37 #       <quelsaruk> you forgot spanish :P
15.18.51 #       <Bagder> Rockbox right now: 91745 lines of code
15.19.30 #       <elinenbe> ahh the spaniard chimes in!
15.19.47 #       <elinenbe> Bagder: I think our goal should be 100000 lines of code! ;)
15.20.00 #       <quelsaruk> btw, a really offtopic question, does anyone here speak polish?
15.20.03 #       <Bagder> yes, then we can stop
15.20.18 #       <Bagder> quelsaruk: my wife!
15.20.22 #       <quelsaruk> really?
15.20.24 #       <quelsaruk> interesting
15.20.25 #       <quelsaruk> :D
15.20.31 #       <Bagder> yeps, her parents are from Poland
15.20.39 #       <quelsaruk> curious
15.21.24 #       <quelsaruk> hmmm.. lunch time :)
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15.47.26 #       <quelsaruk> back
15.54.52 #       <quelsaruk> rebooting windoze
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15.58.08 #       <Leety-Aravil> yes
15.58.15 #       <Leety-Aravil> ?
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16.00.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I can provide you that little board which connects HD and the rest
16.00.22 #       <[IDC]Dragon> see PM for german ;-)
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16.41.11 #       <quelsaruk> hi
16.41.13 #       <quelsaruk> again
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17.17.55 #       <quelsaruk> hmmm anyone here using windoze and with Qt gui toolkit?
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18.50.27 #       <sp> is anyone familiar with portal player?
18.51.01 #       <sp> chip for ipod?
18.51.57 #       <sp> hello?
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18.52.44 #       <quelsaruk> hi
18.53.32 #       <sp> have you heard of portalplayer?
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19.15.17 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: awake?
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19.22.23 #       <Cassandra> Hello
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19.37.21 #       <quelsaruk> time to go
19.37.21 #       <quelsaruk> cu
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23.12.59 #       <amiconn> Gotta reboot, brb
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23.15.12 #       <webguest74> hi
23.15.23 #       <webguest74> any hardware hackers here?
23.15.48 #       <Zagor> well, in one form of another
23.15.53 #       <Zagor> or
23.16.10 #       <webguest74> interested in cheapo surface mount soldering tool?
23.16.19 #       <Zagor> although right now I can't even get grip to not use utf-8 in filenames..
23.16.28 #       <Zagor> no thanks
23.16.36 #       <webguest74> I found this on the web...
23.16.48 #       <webguest74> http://www.usbmicro.com/odn/documents/46.html
23.17.11 #       <webguest74> the guy converted a desoldering iron 
23.17.29 #       <webguest74> by adding an aquarium air pump.
23.17.38 #       <Zagor> nice hack
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23.18.10 #       <webguest74> I thought so.
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