--- Log for 27.12.104 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 17 days ago 00.16.32 Quit Romboy ("Rite Error: Fixed Pipe") 00.18.20 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@24-168-110-99.si.rr.com) 00.18.24 Quit Stryke` (Remote closed the connection) 00.24.40 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.25.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.06.20 Part amiconn 01.22.15 Quit jyp ("Leaving") 01.32.52 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.32.54 Join elinenbe_ [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-224-49.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.32.58 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (elinenbe_@207-237-224-49.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.49.43 Quit midk ("Leaving") 01.49.50 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 02.25.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.28.55 Join edx_ [0] (edx@pD9EAB9E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.46.14 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.54.15 Nick edx_ is now known as edx (edx@pD9EAB9E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.33.15 Quit edx () 04.25.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.58.55 Quit midk ("Leaving") 06.25.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.12.56 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 08.12.59 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D149D.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.22.40 Join scancat [0] (~chatzilla@c-24-125-116-65.va.client2.attbi.com) 08.23.02 # is this the gay medievel furry channel? 08.25.19 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 08.34.48 Quit midk ("Leaving") 08.38.54 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 09.00.32 Part amiconn 09.08.15 Quit scancat ("Chatzilla 0.9.65 [Mozilla rv:1.7.3/20040913]") 09.26.04 Join quelsaruk [0] (~kvirc@80.103.133.61) 09.26.27 # good morning 09.26.50 # hey quel 09.26.57 # :) 09.27.00 # ("kel" ? :p) 09.27.30 # reboot, brb. 09.27.42 Quit midk (Remote closed the connection) 09.28.38 Join |XO| [0] (XOXOXO@ool-4355d5ca.dyn.optonline.net) 09.31.15 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 09.34.47 # re-hi 09.35.00 # "kel"... i suppose "quel" sounds like that in english 09.35.02 # :) 09.37.08 # :) 10.19.59 Join zeekoe [0] (~me@dsl-213-134-228-032.solcon.nl) 10.25.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.37.31 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'System Virtue'") 10.50.14 Join Lynx_ [0] (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 10.54.23 Join Dulcise [0] (~Will@cpc2-darl1-5-0-cust195.midd.cable.ntl.com) 10.55.55 Quit zeekoe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.05.32 Join midk_ [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 11.08.26 Join amiconn [0] (~d9092244@labb.contactor.se) 11.08.46 Quit amiconn (Client Quit) 11.16.46 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@83.69.98.14) 11.18.51 Quit R3nTiL (Client Quit) 11.21.52 Quit midk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.50.50 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB9E2.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.03.13 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 12.11.31 Quit Dulcise (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.22.30 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@83.69.98.19) 12.25.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.26.58 Quit |XO| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.30.19 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-120-137.VIC.netspace.net.au) 12.30.26 Quit R3nTiL () 13.58.20 Join Dulcise [0] (~Will@cpc2-darl1-5-0-cust195.midd.cable.ntl.com) 14.03.50 Join jyp [0] (~jp@231-212.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 14.25.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.24.30 Quit ashridah ("sleep") 16.25.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.00.56 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@84.98.1.71) 17.01.02 Quit Dulcise (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.01.09 # Hi 17.01.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi, too 17.01.51 # Hello IDC-Dragon 17.01.55 # :) 17.02.12 # i have something to ask 17.02.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes... 17.02.47 # i would like to see a mailist 17.02.55 # for the iRiverport 17.03.09 # specially when the bootloader will be released 17.03.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> there's an iriver forum 17.03.53 # hum the iribver part of the Rockbox board 17.03.59 # ok i see 17.03.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> the m/l is rockbox development in general 17.04.10 # ok i see 17.04.30 # just asking cause i 'll lost my personal connection 17.04.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> and you could say it's obsolete since we have the forums, but I'm not going that far 17.05.04 # okay not wrong in fact 17.05.57 # my request was just biased on my own wishes due to my new connexion conditions 17.05.59 # ;) 17.06.36 # I like the IRC channel but i suspect i won't be able to use it from my school 17.06.39 # ;) 17.08.47 # Anyway 17.08.51 # not a matter 17.08.58 # thanks for the answer 17.08.59 # :) 17.09.29 # Happy new year to you IDC 17.10.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> not yet ;-) 17.12.30 # Yes not yet 17.12.53 # but i'm not sure i will conenct on IRC later 17.13.14 # since i'll go to Paris wedneday 17.13.16 # ;) 17.14.57 # (and some little things to do at www.reallife.org before ;) ) 17.15.49 # hum shit this website really exist 17.15.53 # lol 17.18.10 # hum and about the actual mailinglist 17.18.16 # this one: 17.18.19 # rockbox-announce 17.18.54 # is it the same news as the news on the home page? 17.18.57 # =) 17.19.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> dunno 17.20.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> no, I don't think so 17.20.06 # (this appears to fit to my conveniences) 17.20.15 # Ah no 17.20.19 # too bad 17.20.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> you can "poll" the iriver wiki page from time to time 17.20.51 # rockbox-news would be better for me you think? 17.20.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> it gets updated with progress 17.21.11 # okay indeed seems to be best solution 17.21.49 # you're right 17.22.33 # maybe i wanted to fill my 250 MB yahoo mail 17.22.33 # lol 17.23.57 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@ti521110a080-2413.bb.online.no) 17.25.04 # okay thanks for everything 17.25.23 # bye 17.48.20 Quit Lynx_ (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 18.04.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> bye, too 18.04.39 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("CGI:IRC") 18.19.55 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a43276.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 18.25.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.30.37 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D149D.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.33 Quit Tang (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.39.45 # Hey 18.40.10 # Do you use gcc extensions in rockbox ? 18.40.58 # Or,put in another way, do you rely on compiling with gcc 18.46.50 # Yes I think so 18.48.16 # The first thing that comes to mind is "assembler instructions with C expression operands". This is definitely used. 18.51.29 # You know I'm planning to do the gmini port... 18.51.40 # And I'm facing a dillemma... 18.52.09 # Use the calmshine complier (for windows; a port of lcc) 18.52.38 # or use gcc... A port of 2.97... Probably the crappiest gcc version to have ever seen the light. 18.53.33 # (ICE on rockbox sources!) 18.55.23 # Maybe you don't need the asm extensions, as the asm parts are platfrom dependent by nature. Furthermore, I'd expect further problems with such an old GCC versions. Rockbox uses GCC 3.3.x nowadays, and started (?) with GCC 3.0.4 18.56.16 # I'd have already gone with the calmshine thing if it hadn't problems of its own... 18.56.40 # ie. predefines alot of functions (sprintf, etc) 18.56.59 # which are redefined in rockbox 18.57.22 # ..or not defined at all if not needed 18.57.32 # (saving space) 18.58.45 # Ok, so I'll give calmcc another try 18.59.08 # (i've been trying to "upgrad 18.59.56 # e" the gcc port to 3.4.3... But a lot of things have changed since 2.9 ;) 19.02.30 # In case you'll try again updating the gcc port - we use GCC 3.3.x but not GCC 3.4.x. That's on purpose, GCC 3.3.x generates smaller binaries than 3.4.x, at least for SH1 19.03.13 # Thanks for the info 19.03.43 # Anyways I'm afraid most the the calmrisc port has to be redone 19.05.06 # So I think we'll keep that as a last resort. 19.06.33 # Hmm. I don't know how much and how difficult that is, but I also think this would be the far better way. One great thing with rockbox development is the use of gcc, so practically everyone can work for it, be it on Windows or any Linux derivate 19.07.22 # Using a windows only compiler would also prohibit automated daily builds etc, because the automated build system is running on Linux 19.07.57 # It's a pity that the Gmini uses such an exotic CPU 19.08.28 # I know... 19.09.02 # It's probably not impossible to re-do the gcc port 19.09.26 # But now I'm facing a lack of documentation regarding porting gcc 19.09.55 # The existing docs dates back to a few years :( 19.18.14 # Is that GCC 2.97 part of the GNU-pro toolchain available from http://www.donat.org/archos/ ? 19.18.24 # Yah 19.26.01 Join Dulcise [0] (~Will@cpc2-darl1-5-0-cust195.midd.cable.ntl.com) 19.29.41 Quit Dulcise (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.21.58 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@24-168-110-99.si.rr.com) 20.25.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.42.23 Join guywithh120 [0] (~gab_6666@lt-62-42.telebecinternet.net) 20.42.26 # hi 21.02.24 Join bobTHC [0] (~root@AMarseille-251-1-7-224.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.02.28 # hi all 21.12.24 # hey 21.12.38 Nick midk_ is now known as midk (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 21.13.14 # yep 21.16.09 Quit bobTHC ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.10") 21.23.30 Join oleg106 [0] (~41d3128e@labb.contactor.se) 21.26.46 Quit oleg106 (Client Quit) 21.52.38 Join quelsaruk [0] (~kvirc@80.103.133.61) 21.52.41 # hi 21.53.14 # hey kel ;) 21.54.04 # hi midk 21.59.19 # yes!! 22.00.17 # video card and motherboard order status.... Step 4: Your order contents are packaged and sealed. 22.00.25 # that means it should be here wednesday. 22.00.42 # hehe 22.00.48 # which motherboard? 22.03.14 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9FF81FA.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.03.52 # http://tinyurl.com/4ykog 22.11.24 # dual ddr? 22.12.31 # in rockbox, sizeof(int) = ? 22.13.14 # I'm using a compiler where it is 2, and it complains much 22.14.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> the SH is 32 bit 22.14.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> so sizeof(int)=4 22.15.18 # ouch 22.15.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> you may have to change it to long inmany places, where size matters 22.16.37 # no, quel, it's not :) 22.16.57 # m'kay ... 22.17.35 # it may be many many places ); 22.18.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> no, only where data structures have to match, or >32767 is needed 22.20.36 # I'm not in backlight.c (1st file ;) and I already have such a case 22.20.49 Join scancat [0] (~chatzilla@c-24-125-116-65.va.client2.attbi.com) 22.21.52 # s/not/now 22.25.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.27.16 # hi [IDC]Dragon 22.27.29 # Guess what... 22.28.01 # CalmRISC16 Compiler V1.427 Copyright (C) 2002 Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd 22.28.01 # Revision Date: Mar 7 2003 22.28.01 # (407c4b20->op=ARGP2 at ../firmware/backlight.c:87 is corrupt.) 22.28.01 DBUG Enqueued KICK jyp 22.28.01 # ../firmware/backlight.c:87: error: compiler error in D:\calm16_src\calm16lcc\gen.c--assertion failure at line 248 22.28.01 # make: *** [backlight.S] Error 1 22.28.32 # calmrisc16.md, here we go. 22.28.35 # :((( 22.28.41 # :) 22.29.35 # btw, amiconn and [IDC]Dragon, i need to talk to both of you :) 22.29.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> i'm here, mostly 22.30.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> I need to talk to my WLAN setup :-( 22.30.10 # amiconn: i saw yesterday the "voice page" at the web, and you said that spanish was requested but not created.. 22.30.39 # but, you don't say how to make a spanish.voice file!! 22.31.15 # and here is where [IDC]Dragon joins the conversation, as he is the creator of rockbox talking :) 22.31.31 # can anyone of you explain me how can i create a spanish.voice? 22.32.16 # ( btw, [IDC]Dragon, which wifi card do you have? does it have Ralink Ra2400 or 2500 chipset?) 22.32.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm struggling with my new notebook, it has something builtin 22.33.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> and loses connection aftera few minutes 22.33.24 # yeah 22.33.30 # that sounds like ralink chipset 22.33.31 # :D 22.33.35 # i'm a expert right now 22.33.51 # the only f***ing chipset without good drivers 22.35.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's probably Intel, because of Centrino label 22.35.33 # depends on the laptop 22.35.46 # but could be 22.35.47 # :) 22.36.16 # quelsaruk: it wasn't me who added the sentence stating the request for a spanish voice file 22.36.35 # any mp3 players other than the archos that have open source firmware? 22.36.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> Intel Pro/wireless 2200BG 22.36.45 # ...but this reminds me that I wanted to write a wiki article how to create a voice file... :-/ 22.36.52 Nick scancat is now known as earHurts (~chatzilla@c-24-125-116-65.va.client2.attbi.com) 22.37.26 Nick earHurts is now known as earHertz (~chatzilla@c-24-125-116-65.va.client2.attbi.com) 22.37.38 # amiconn: but the wiki page had your name, i thought that you could send people to a HOWTO 22.37.56 # or maybe [IDC]Dragon has a HOWTO 22.38.08 # There is no howto (yet), afaik 22.38.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> maybe an old readme 22.38.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: I have the lower layers of multi-volume "ready" now (untested) 22.39.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> but I'm unsure how to fake the volume "directories" 22.39.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> I have it down to 1 function as the missing link: opendir() 22.40.01 # quelsaruk: The request for spanish was added by Luis Carlos Banuelos in August 22.40.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> which will need to determint the true volume 22.40.44 # ok, amiconn i can make a voice file, if someone explains me what to do 22.40.55 # and i have access to the source, so i can upload it 22.45.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: my issue is about faking the extra volume directory 22.45.41 Quit midk ("Leaving") 22.45.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> right now, I think may be best to let the tree browser do that 22.46.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> and not the directory enumeration 22.46.27 # [IDC]Dragon: Yes, you need to insert the faked dir somehow into the root dir, but only if an MMC is inserted. 22.46.49 # Imho this should be done in dir.c, not at a higher level 22.46.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> only if mounted, yes 22.47.05 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 22.48.16 # The second things is that opendir.c has to decide where the target directory is located. This can be done by string matching 22.48.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> that's the easy part 22.49.02 # s/opendir.c/opendir()/ 22.52.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> Intel is crazy: 43 MB download for a network card driver! 23.09.58 # [IDC]Dragon: The faked dir entry for the root dir should imho be inserted in readdir(). The most logical thing would be to insert it first, but it might be easier to insert it last, after fat_getnext() returned NULL. 23.11.23 # You will need a flag (or some other method if you want it more flexible, i.e. supporting more than 1 "mount point") stating whether the faked dir was already inserted 23.13.18 # [IDC]Dragon: do you have winXP? 23.13.49 # You need to open the root of the mounted volume to get the parameters to return (dir size, start cluster etc) 23.15.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> quelsaruk: XP, yes 23.15.57 # with SP2? 23.16.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> yep 23.16.22 # and you have WLAN with WPA security? 23.16.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> no WEP at max 23.16.47 # oh 23.16.56 # then, nothing 23.16.57 # :) 23.17.02 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 23.17.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> but now I disabled all safety, to try 23.17.40 # one of the issues i found with Ralink chipset drivers was in WPA security in WinXP SP2, WEP worked much better 23.17.55 # and without security perfectly 23.18.31 Quit guywithh120 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.32.54 # bye all 23.32.54 Quit jyp ("Leaving")