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01.12.30 #       <bagawk> hey amiconn 
01.12.56 #       <bagawk> What  have you been working on?
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12.37.18 #       <jyp> hey
12.43.57 #       <[IDC]Dragon> hi
12.45.07 #       <jyp> let's say I want to examine an intermediate .S file;
12.45.36 #       <jyp> how would I generate it with rockbox build system ?
12.46.27 #       <[IDC]Dragon> intermediate?
12.47.03 #       <jyp> result of a C compilation...
12.47.15 #       <jyp> btw I found a way hacking the makefiles
12.47.26 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I don't think such can be generated
12.47.40 #       <[IDC]Dragon> we disassembled the image afterwards
12.48.01 #       <jyp> Well I'm working with a buggy compiler
12.48.20 #       <jyp> and I need to understand why it produces wrong assembly
12.49.02 #       <jyp> /tmp/cc7yPSkg.s: Assembler messages:
12.49.02 #       <jyp> /tmp/cc7yPSkg.s:21: Error: bad instruction `ld a8,#100662988'
12.49.02 #       <jyp> /tmp/cc7yPSkg.s:38: Error: bad instruction `ld a8,#100663180'
12.50.56 #       <[IDC]Dragon> so you already see the instruction
12.51.21 #       <[IDC]Dragon> can you tell if it's illegal?
12.51.39 #       <jyp> Yah... but i needed to find in what function it were
12.51.46 #       <jyp> I got it though
12.51.52 #       <jyp> SCR1 |= 0x40
12.52.09 #       <jyp> Kind of incorrect on a machine that has no "SCR1" ;)
13.03.21 #       <[IDC]Dragon> can you run compiled code on the Gmini?
13.03.36 #       <jyp> in theory yes
13.04.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> how about a first program to blink an LED
13.04.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> instead of compiling full Rockbox
13.04.20 #       <jyp> sure,
13.04.30 #       <jyp> right now I'm evaulating my compilers
13.04.45 #       <jyp> evaluating
13.05.29 #       <jyp> Because I have two of them, and there are both flawed somewhat
13.06.01 #       <[IDC]Dragon> i know
13.06.34 #       <[IDC]Dragon> just personally I'd try to run My First Program (tm) on the box
13.07.01 #       <jyp> In fact I'm waiting for Strath to do that...
13.07.14 #       <[IDC]Dragon> aha
13.07.43 #       <jyp> Because before flashing the gmini...
13.07.59 #       <jyp> I'd rather have a way out
13.08.09 #       <jyp> to the standard firmware
13.08.26 #       <jyp> we need the uart interface for that...
13.08.46 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you can only flash it, not run something "non-destructive"?
13.09.20 #       <jyp> Code can only be ran from flash, afai know
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13.49.27 #       <Digital007> hi
13.57.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> hi
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14.53.05 #       <[IDC]Dragon> hey, multi-volume for Ondio works!
14.53.31 #       <jyp> gratz ;=)
14.53.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> (probably nobody knows what I'm talking about)
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14.54.20 #       * jyp laughs
14.57.35 #       <Lynx_> no ;-). what does it mean?
14.58.09 #       <[IDC]Dragon> using the internal memory and the plugged MMC at the same time
14.59.34 #       <Lynx_> ah, i remember mailinglist discussions about it. or discussion here...
14.59.43 #       <jyp> btw, how standard is the ATA interface?
15.00.01 #       <Lynx_> how big are mmc's nowadays?
15.00.02 #       <jyp> Any chance that the chip in gmini is already suppoted by rockbox ?
15.00.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> pretty well standard
15.00.09 #       <jyp> (SMSC USB97C202)
15.00.38 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Lynx_: up to 1GB, 2GB announced
15.01.27 #       <jyp> Having read rockbox ATA code it seems pretty similar to what's in archos firmware
15.02.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> ATA is usually just a memory-mapped port
15.02.16 #       <jyp> yup
15.02.39 #       <jyp> but I'm wondering about the protocol the chip implements
15.02.42 #       <[IDC]Dragon> so you cann address those few registers of the disk
15.03.02 #       <[IDC]Dragon> is the chip a USB->ATA bridge?
15.03.26 #       <jyp> (accessing those regs in the gmini is somewhat involved: DMA transfer!)
15.03.40 #       <jyp> Yes, it is such a bridge
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15.03.58 #       * jyp waves
15.07.11 #       <Lynx_> jyp: what are you working on?
15.27.39 #       <jyp> Archos Gmini
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16.55.42 #       <Lynx_> i meant, what are you doing with the gmini?
16.56.26 #       <jyp> trying to port rockbox on it
16.56.28 #       <jyp> basically
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17.02.14 #       <Lynx_> cool. it's gonna take a while, i guess? ;-)
17.02.49 #       <jyp> Well, until it is fully functional yes
17.03.00 #       <Lynx_> how far are you?
17.03.30 #       <jyp> We are able to flash the gmini (that tooks months!)
17.03.44 #       <jyp> and we know how the hardware works mostly
17.04.15 #       <Lynx_> is there a wiki page on the project?
17.04.25 #       <jyp> Sure...
17.04.35 #       <jyp> http://www.donat.org/archos/wiki/doku.php
17.04.57 #       <jyp> http://www.donat.org/archos/ is the main page
17.06.42 #       <Lynx_> i hadn't heard about the project before...
17.07.04 #       <jyp> Advertise it as much as you can... We need help :)
17.07.40 #       <Lynx_> hehe, go to the main page and click the 'project team' link in the main frame
17.08.20 #       <Lynx_> not that it matters...
17.08.41 #       <jyp> mmm, I'm not the maintainer of the website anyways ;)
17.09.37 #       <jyp> The frames should be disposed of altogether ...
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18.00.22 #       <sander__> howdy all
18.00.50 #       <sander__> Does anyone know how to restart a jukebox that's in debug mode?
18.01.53 #       <sander__> It says ata:-71 and it won't turn off.
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18.42.58 #       <sander__> nevermind, it worked itself out.
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22.48.57 #       <quelsaruk> [IDC]Dragon: i have a question
22.48.59 #       <quelsaruk> :)
22.49.01 #       <quelsaruk> hi
22.49.03 #       <quelsaruk> first of all
22.49.04 #       <quelsaruk> :D
22.49.12 #       <[IDC]Dragon> what else could it be? ;-)
22.49.22 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Hi
22.50.13 #       <quelsaruk> i've bought 2400mAh batts, charged them using rockbox (changed the batt setting to 2400mAh before charging) and got something weird
22.50.22 #       <quelsaruk> maybe you can help me
22.51.00 #       <quelsaruk> charging lasted just 5 hours (or less)... and of course, mp3 playing was just of 3h 40m.
22.51.22 #       <quelsaruk> that's not logical for new 2400mAh batteries.. isn't it?
22.51.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> they may need a few cycles before reaching full capacity
22.52.06 #       <quelsaruk> ok then, i'll charge them again this night
22.52.29 #       <quelsaruk> i didn't know it it was something wrong with the batts or the jukebox
22.52.41 #       <[IDC]Dragon> fully discharge and charge them
22.53.03 #       <quelsaruk> i discharged them until the recorder powered off
22.53.04 #       <[IDC]Dragon> perhaps with an external charger and a flashlight or such
22.53.47 #       <quelsaruk> hmmm
22.54.00 #       <quelsaruk> i have to find a external charger
22.54.01 #       <quelsaruk> :D
22.54.40 #       <[IDC]Dragon> or Archos firmware brute force charging
22.55.27 #       <quelsaruk> is that better than rockbox charging ?
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22.56.27 #       <quelsaruk> using archos... i hope this helps
22.56.28 #       <[IDC]Dragon> rockbox charging is sometimes too careful
22.56.28 #       <quelsaruk> :D
22.56.33 #       <quelsaruk> ok then
22.56.39 #       <quelsaruk> brutal charge
22.56.44 #       <quelsaruk> and a hammer near the box
22.56.47 #       <quelsaruk> just in case
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