--- Log for 12.01.105 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 months and 3 days ago 00.00.24 # yes, they are a bit bass-heavy 00.00.52 # so how would you scale the etymotics vs sony's on a bass-scale ? 00.02.37 # roughly 00.03.58 # hard to give a quantified answer. the etymotics were a lot more weak than the sonys are strong, i'd say 00.04.28 # ok. thx. nää, dags o nanna puten 00.04.30 # goodnite 00.04.53 # amiconn: i'll try tomorrow morning (my special spanish morning) and i'll tell you if something can be missunderstood :) 00.09.38 # Zagor: did you get the B S or P? 00.10.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> I have the S 00.10.56 # [IDC]Dragon: do you use it with an amp for your portable? 00.11.04 # I got the P, I think 00.11.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> no, I don't 00.11.22 # hmm 00.11.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> I admit that audiophile phones and Archos are a bit misbalanced 00.12.20 # yeah the page about it recomends an amp for use with portables and the S 00.12.20 # heh 00.12.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> although Archos' output is not too bad, compared to other players, I heared 00.13.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> it's definitely enough powerful to drive the S 00.13.30 # huh 00.14.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> the difference between S and P is just a different series resistor, which is lower on P 00.14.32 # lets see, the B and S are 100 ohms and the P is 27 00.14.53 # so yeah 100 ohms is still fairly low 00.15.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> the capsule itself is 5 ohms, the rest goes to that resistor 00.15.29 # heh 00.15.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> you can "convert" a P into an S by adding the difference resistance 00.16.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor: btw, why is our sound default +6dB bass and treble? 00.17.35 # historical reasons. the jb6000 headphone amplifier was a lot weaker than the recorders, so most people boosted the sound settings a little. 00.17.44 # i think we should revert to flat 00.17.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> this disturbes me on regular intervals, whenever my flat settings are not present 00.17.57 # me too 00.18.01 # btw can someone recommend an inear earphones ? 00.18.33 # had the mx500 from sennheiser but these got damaged after about half of a year using them 00.18.54 # this happended with 2 other pairs also, so i think this is normal with these :/ 00.19.08 # although i had heard much good about them before 00.19.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> the players should just require a bass boost, because of too small caps 00.19.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> no treble boost 00.20.20 # crash_: try the sony ex-70/71. i think they are pretty good for the price. and i'm never going back to regular earbuds that fall out of my ears all the time... :-) 00.20.30 # Zagor: As I'm fiddling with the settings anyway, should I change treble and bass defaults to flat? 00.20.54 # amiconn: sure. but commit it separately, so it's clearly visible. 00.20.59 # Okay. 00.20.59 # you had the sennheiser or of which are you talking, that where falling of your ear ? 00.21.35 # no, i had sonys with similar shape. 00.21.41 # ah :) 00.21.51 # ok thx, i'll have a look 00.21.51 # maybe i have strange ears :) 00.22.01 # maybe, dont know them *G* 00.22.06 # see you tomorrow 00.22.10 # good nite 00.22.13 # night 00.24.31 # Zagor: The treble & bass defaults are different for the player & other models. For player, they are +7 dB, for recorder +6 dB. 00.24.44 # that's weird 00.24.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> I've seen that, too 00.25.05 # i say we flat'em all 00.25.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> probably because ofthe player weakness 00.26.22 # Well, the preferred settings depend a lot on how you use the player. For earphone, I actually use +6 dB for both treble & bass, for hifi or in-car use I set it to flat. 00.26.46 # i seem to recall linus having an opinion against flat, but i don't remember what 00.27.38 # Maybe if we set it to flat, some user which give rockbox only a quick shot may complain that rockbox sounds "thin" and not use it because of that... 00.29.05 # yes, well i'm not too worried. :-) but let's wait and see what linus objections were (if any) 00.30.53 # time to go sleep 00.31.01 # good night guys 00.31.07 # cu tomorrow 00.31.23 # bye 00.31.29 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'System Virtue'") 00.33.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.37.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm off, too 00.37.40 Quit [IDC]Dragon (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") 00.39.18 Quit jyp ("Leaving") 00.39.43 Quit zeekoe (" sleep") 00.40.35 # (ipod shuffle) "USB 1.1 and 2.0 through integrated USB connector" 00.51.13 Join bagawk [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 00.51.24 # Hey :) 01.00.57 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 01.01.25 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 01.08.47 Join pike [0] (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) 01.15.10 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.16.29 # yes, the settings default to +6/+6 and +7/+7 to make rockbox sound "better" by default 01.16.56 # Ok, so I'll leave it as-is 01.17.07 # in the dawn of rockbox, we had complaints about dull sound 01.17.15 # i think it should default to flat 01.18.09 # but that's probably because my ears/earphones prefer it that way 01.18.25 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 01.18.30 # Obviously we cannot have both "better" sound and flat default at the same time. 01.18.35 # if you have the original crappy headphones, you'd probably want the boosted settings 01.19.20 # I do have (somewhat) better earphones, but I still prefer treble & bass boosted 01.19.52 # It also depends on the volume you are usually listening, mine is quite low. 01.20.13 # also, this was back when rockbox hadn't yet gained wide acceptance 01.20.19 # oy, linus, will us people without bdm interfaces be able to code rockbox for iriver h1x0 once you've completed the bootloader? 01.20.34 # preglow: yes 01.20.39 # great, i'm looking forward to it 01.20.44 # me too .-) 01.21.07 # i just wish i had time to work on it... 01.21.29 # having my h120 suddenly become a programmable hardware platform excites me tremedously 01.21.45 # :-) 01.21.45 # good bye crappy firmware, hello insertable dsp effects 01.22.51 # shortage of time is something i can relate to, hehe 01.22.58 # i'm actually surprised that people don't complain about the incredibly lousy user interface on the original 01.23.45 # i rarely look at it, heh 01.25.32 # LinusN: What should the following message tell *me*: 01.25.33 # cvs commit: Using deprecated info format strings. Convert your scripts to use 01.25.34 # the new argument format and remove '1's from your info file format strings. 01.25.37 Join Nuxator [0] (~chatzilla@ca-sqy-14-22.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr) 01.26.06 # hi 01.26.12 # helo 01.26.30 # i'm an iriver user and i do complain about bad interface 01.26.46 # amiconn: it is a server configuration thing...ignore it and be happy 01.26.49 # funny you should mention it... 01.26.50 # i'm student in computer science especialy interfaces 01.27.10 # and the iriver one is bad bad bad 01.27.24 # what exactly needs improvement? 01.27.44 # for example, why is there an A/B button? 01.27.57 # for exemple do not put a nice picture in browser that take 1/3 of the screen 01.28.07 # and why does it do a zillion other things than just control the A/B repeat mode? 01.28.22 # ahh, like that, yes 01.28.22 # a/b button will be good forrockbox i guess ^^ 01.28.53 # and all those secret handshakes for the EQ settings 01.28.56 # the thing i think is the greatest right now, is the boot screen 01.29.00 Quit pike| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.29.05 # seems like the players just sits there for five seconds, showing a picture 01.29.08 # player 01.29.47 # yes key layout and mapping isn't really good either 01.30.18 # they should have had a more generic set of buttons 01.30.38 # i did mail iriver and the only answer is nonews from dev team look often our website..... 01.30.47 # haha 01.30.54 # their dev team is heavily overworked, i'm afraid 01.31.01 # yes 01.31.52 # last time i said them that linus alons will make a new firmware from scratch (not really but near) when they just updated the boot logo 01.31.54 # but yeah, i think it's half decent 01.32.05 # and i think the cpu is pretty powerful 01.32.46 # maybe it's powerfullbut i think they don't use full speed mot of the time to save power 01.33.12 # i certainly hope it's capable of doing more than decoing mp3s before it's maxed out 01.33.34 # sure, i read that motorolas reference mp3 decoder used around 10% 01.33.40 # but that might not be entirely correct 01.33.56 # mad will most assuredly use more anyway 01.34.07 # i think encoding is much more cpu consuming 01.34.22 # that's more or less a fact, yes 01.34.58 # but i use my player for playing, mostly, and when i record, i record as wav 01.35.02 # but the thing i realy miss in iriver firmware is on the fly playlists 01.35.10 # i miss gapless playback, hehe 01.35.27 # i have an creative dap (the big blue one) 01.35.31 # if they would have put in that, i might just have been happy 01.35.44 # and all was done with on the fly playlist 01.35.45 # but having my player becoming a programmable platform is the greatest 01.36.11 # sure it will be cool to add plugin to rockbox 01.36.20 # yes, and stuff like proper equalizers 01.36.25 # which isn't that hard to code 01.36.51 # preglow: you know dsp programming? 01.36.56 # yes 01.37.06 # one of my main interests 01.37.13 # great 01.37.18 # i'll learn some sound processing this year 01.37.31 # but not sure it would be dsp 01.37.45 # you haven't really got a choice if you want to do it digitally 01.37.52 # since the d stands for digital 01.38.19 # gotta go to sleep, it's 2am over here 01.38.23 # i know but it seems will just use some sound livrary and put them together 01.38.26 # 1:40 here 01.38.28 # well, soon 2am 01.38.29 # thinking about bed myself 01.38.34 # 1:37 here 01.38.38 # 1:38 01.38.45 # haha 01.38.51 # you're swedish, yes? 01.38.52 # ok we all agree 01.38.54 # yup 01.38.55 # not surprising, then 01.38.59 # bed time 01.39.03 # cu 01.39.04 # nite all 01.39.07 # ait, nitey 01.39.13 Part LinusN 01.39.29 # i'm french 01.39.50 # norwegian here 01.39.57 # but bed, yes 01.39.59 Quit preglow ("arf") 01.40.02 Quit Nuxator ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041108]") 01.43.13 Quit Kultivator () 01.52.21 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.01.01 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.33.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.59.13 Part amiconn 03.23.36 Join Vassago [0] (~dudits200@dhcp065-031-059-036.woh.rr.com) 03.24.47 Part Vassago 03.50.16 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.33.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.50.16 Quit lImbus (Remote closed the connection) 05.24.55 Join edx [0] (edx@p54879766.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.33.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.55.43 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.55.46 Join courtc_ [0] (~court@adsl-217-0-48.asm.bellsouth.net) 08.09.17 Nick courtc_ is now known as courtc (~court@adsl-217-0-48.asm.bellsouth.net) 08.33.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.57.16 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.02.54 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.07.46 # Morning all 09.08.35 # moo 09.08.54 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.09.11 # morning mr z 09.09.19 # hi 09.09.29 # i didn't see any db commits yesterday... :-) 09.10.12 # no, i discovered a bug when testing on target. can't repeat it in the simulator. 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.06.33 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 10.06.33 *** Cleanup 10.06.33 *** Cleanup 10.06.33 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.06.33 *** Exit 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.15.26 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 10.15.26 *** Cleanup 10.15.26 *** Cleanup 10.15.26 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.15.26 *** Exit 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.24.18 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 10.24.18 *** Cleanup 10.24.18 *** Cleanup 10.24.18 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.24.18 *** Exit 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.33.10 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 10.33.10 *** Cleanup 10.33.10 *** Cleanup 10.33.10 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.33.10 *** Exit 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.42.02 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 10.42.02 *** Cleanup 10.42.02 *** Cleanup 10.42.02 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.42.02 *** Exit 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.50.54 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 10.50.54 *** Cleanup 10.50.54 *** Cleanup 10.50.54 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.50.54 *** Exit 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 *** Started Dancer V4.16 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 10.59.46 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 10.59.46 *** Cleanup 10.59.46 *** Cleanup 10.59.46 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.59.46 *** Exit 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 *** Started Dancer V4.16 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.08.38 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 11.08.38 *** Cleanup 11.08.38 *** Cleanup 11.08.38 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 11.08.38 *** Exit 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 *** Started Dancer V4.16 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.17.30 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 11.17.30 *** Cleanup 11.17.30 *** Cleanup 11.17.30 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 11.17.30 *** Exit 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 *** Started Dancer V4.16 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.26.22 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 11.26.22 *** Cleanup 11.26.22 *** Cleanup 11.26.22 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 11.26.22 *** Exit 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 *** Started Dancer V4.16 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.35.15 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 11.35.15 *** Cleanup 11.35.15 *** Cleanup 11.35.15 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 11.35.15 *** Exit 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 *** Started Dancer V4.16 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.44.07 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 11.44.07 *** Cleanup 11.44.07 *** Cleanup 11.44.07 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 11.44.07 *** Exit 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 *** Started Dancer V4.16 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 11.52.59 *** Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 11.52.59 *** Cleanup 11.52.59 *** Cleanup 11.52.59 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 11.52.59 *** Exit 12.01.51 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 12.01.51 *** Started Dancer V4.16 12.01.51 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 12.01.51 DEBUG Received signal 15 (SIGTERM), terminating (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 12.01.51 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: seen.c line 523) 12.01.51 *** Cleanup 12.01.51 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 12.01.51 *** Exit 12.06.37 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for labb (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 12.06.37 *** Started Dancer V4.16 12.06.37 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 12.06.37 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 12.06.37 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 12.06.37 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Resource temporarily unavailable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) 12.06.37 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 12.06.37 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 12.11.26 *** Server message 501: 'logbot_ :Unknown MODE flag' 12.11.26 Mode "logbot_ :+i" by logbot_ 12.11.26 *** Server message 477: 'logbot_ #rockbox :[freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup' 12.11.26 Join logbot_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.11.26 Join Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010732484pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 12.11.26 Join Nibbler [0] (~nibbler@p508C6E29.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.11.26 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7E826.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.11.26 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 12.11.26 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~knoppix@p5487C22D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.11.26 Join courtc [0] (~court@adsl-217-0-48.asm.bellsouth.net) 12.11.26 Join edx [0] (edx@p54879766.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.11.26 Join pike [0] (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) 12.11.26 Join hgb [0] (~hgb@cm-80.111.5.236.chello.no) 12.11.26 Join Spida [0] (Spida@pD9FFA999.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.11.26 Join LePoulpe [0] (~lpos@AMontpellier-251-1-61-113.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.11.26 Join ze [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-246.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 12.11.26 Join dwihno [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 12.11.26 Join void_ [0] (~void@ool-4570f612.dyn.optonline.net) 12.11.26 Join Lynx_ [0] (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 12.11.26 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 12.11.26 Join izzy [0] (laitinei@huippu.net) 12.11.26 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 12.11.26 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 12.11.26 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stz-softwaretechnik.de) 12.11.26 Join crash_ [0] (~crash@a15167580.alturo-server.de) 12.11.26 Join webmind [0] (~random@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 12.11.26 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 12.11.46 # welcome back logbot_ :) 12.12.09 # (& rockbox.org) 12.16.21 # hrm 12.16.25 # well I swapped drives 12.16.32 # and it seems to be the drive isn't working properly 12.16.43 # I plugged it into a laptop and it isn't even booting 12.16.44 # hehe 12.17.05 # Is there something to boot on the hd? 12.17.21 # hrm no but the laptop doesn't even turn on 12.18.12 # interesting 12.18.18 # * kurzhaarrocker at lunch 12.22.15 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a43276.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 12.43.26 Join MooMaunder [0] (~me@194.152.87.150) 12.51.51 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.52.40 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.52.56 # ahh, finally power is back. you'd think the server was located in a remote mountain village somewhere... 12.57.29 Join zeekoe [0] (HydraIRC@zeekoe.kabel.utwente.nl) 13.03.18 # i thought this was funny: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif 13.06.51 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 13.07.24 # I think it's absolutely hilarious 13.10.10 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-16.VIC.netspace.net.au) 13.10.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> What did I miss this morning? 13.10.32 # electricity? 13.11.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> logbot missed that 13.11.29 # [IDC]Dragon: this: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif 13.11.38 # even logbot_ is powered by electricity 13.11.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes, saw that, pretty nice 13.11.50 # Zagor said that just before you came in 13.11.52 # ok 13.11.59 # yeah, it's fun 13.12.32 # <[IDC]Dragon> but you can't complain about the mini mac 13.14.26 # [IDC]Dragon: i agree. the mini looks like like it could be a nice home linux server. 13.15.00 # * kurzhaarrocker recently bought Linux without knowing 13.16.14 # why 13.16.21 # how 13.16.23 # Siemens builds those DVB-T receivers that run on linux. It seems that a loose bunch of hackers already started investigating it. 13.16.54 # Now I just have to wait until a bunch of magic thingies turn up 13.17.28 # http://www.m740.info (german) 13.18.00 # neat 13.18.30 # there are wireless router/modems too with linux, that's really cool 13.19.06 # *yikes* german... oh you said that :) 13.20.32 # And since the regions where digital tv is broadcast momentarily are quite limited those hackers probably even live nearby. 13.20.43 # e.g. not in sweden 13.22.39 # I wonder how the iriver fw mp3 decoder can have such accurate time estimation for vbr mp3's and accurate seeking 13.23.50 # Is it more precise than rockbox? 13.23.55 # kurzhaarrocker: in Holland it's just coming too. But you have to pay, even for public channels. In 2007 or 2008 analog antenna will be off the air 13.24.23 # How do they want to control wether you pay? 13.26.00 # uh... just like with satellite i think 13.26.03 # decoder stuff 13.26.03 # Here in Germany you have to pay for tv anyway, wether analog, digital, satelite, cable - GEZ (Bebühren Einzugs Zentrale) always wants your money 13.26.14 # that's true in Holland too 13.26.47 # So they want to make you dutchmen pay _extra_ for dvb-t ? 13.26.53 # but for DVB you have to pay extra. You'll get ~15 channels or so, in 'digital quality' 13.26.53 # kurzhaarrocker: I dont know, I have an iriver so never tried Rockbox 13.26.55 # yep 13.27.24 # digital quality means it's digital, you'll have many artifacts because of lack of bandwith 13.27.59 # anyway, i should be going to school now... 13.28.02 # cya 13.28.10 # Have a nice day 13.28.14 # you too 13.28.17 Quit zeekoe (" .") 13.28.17 # tot ziens 13.29.07 # sucks to pay for crap quality 13.29.48 # yes. Here in Germany they want to increase the GEZ too. 13.34.26 # * kurzhaarrocker thinks that he remembers a feature request "Make the radio receiver of the FM recorder receive tv" 13.44.13 Quit izzy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.49.34 Join izzy [0] (laitinei@huippu.net) 13.50.24 # kurzhaarrocker: do you have one of the siemens dvbt things already? 13.50.35 # yes 13.50.39 # I love it 13.51.26 # it has two internal receivers thus you can record 2 independet sources while watching a 3rd mpeg from hd or network 13.51.26 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 13.54.05 # kurzhaarrocker: sounds really cool. the ability to use it as a streaming box for xvid/divix also would make it a killer box 13.54.35 # it's not even too expensive 13.55.09 # Well it can't do that trick. But as it runs on linux and siemens provided the source I wouldn't be surprised if someone ported a divx decoder to it somewhen. 13.56.12 # Momentarily some freaks try to make it a samba server and a web server for remote administration 14.06.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.19.46 # well I guess the hdd is shot 14.28.40 # argl playback with gaps suck on my iriver 14.28.54 # hopefully linus will have time to complete bootloader ;) 14.29.27 # i hope that too :-) 14.30.40 # how big will the thing be? 14.31.03 # big? the thing? 14.31.06 # bootloader 14.31.13 # well, it isn't big 14.31.17 # will it be easy to find a suitable spot in the firmware to insert it? 14.31.29 # that won't be a problem 14.31.43 # there's lots of room in the end of the flash 14.31.50 # great 14.32.23 # Why does this conversation remind me of Johnny Mnemonic? :) 14.32.42 # wouldn't know, haven't seen/read it 14.33.19 # "hit me" 14.33.39 # Do you deserve it, LinusN? 14.33.45 # hey, he asked for it 14.33.55 # that's a moot point 14.34.12 # "I want room service!" 14.35.25 # kurzhaarrocker: hmm, i wonder if the cpu in the thing is fast enough for xvid decoding. is there such a thing as a realtime xvid to mped transcoder, so it could run on the pc connected to the box? 14.35.35 # what thing? 14.35.53 # siemens dvbt receiver 14.36.26 # Lynx_: i doubt it. i assume they are using hardware mpeg-2 decoders 14.36.40 # :) Zagor was faster than me 14.36.49 # that's what i thought 14.36.51 # yes, they do use hw decoders 14.37.06 Join jyp [0] (~jp@47.6-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) 14.37.16 # * kurzhaarrocker doesn't even know the cpu speed 14.37.32 # maybe the next version will do xvid decoding... 14.38.45 # Do you have dvb-t in sweden? 14.39.41 # i've seen receivers with powerpc chips in them, but perhaps they need a lot of power for stuff other than decoding as well? 14.45.37 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 14.45.49 # this seems to be the core thing of it: http://www.necel.com/digital_av/english/mpegdec/d61130a.html 14.46.04 # LinusN: you maybe have an idea when u can finish it ? 14.47.24 # crash_: soon 14.49.02 # :) 14.49.19 # i *love* this kind of announcement cause its always true :) 14.49.28 # like id softwares it's done when it's done :) 14.53.17 # kurzhaarrocker: not that i know anything of cpu's, but the MIPS cpu of the chip is not very powerful, ie for xvid decoding? 14.53.46 # to be honest: I doubt it too. But who knows. 15.13.35 Quit ashridah ("sleep") 15.32.38 Join adi|hotel [0] (~chatzilla@12.109.187.2) 15.33.09 Nick adi|hotel is now known as adi|work (~chatzilla@12.109.187.2) 15.33.56 # ... and the siemens dvb-t box has 2 mpeg2 decoders. Isn't it like this: mpeg2 + mpeg2 = mpeg4 ? 15.34.09 # :) 15.45.18 Part LinusN 15.53.16 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l03m-34-89.d1.club-internet.fr) 15.53.22 # hi folks! 15.53.39 # High, thc 15.53.47 # ;) 15.54.24 # that sounds good 15.54.57 Quit methangas (" I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 15.57.33 # archos sold some recorder 15.57.35 # http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500278.html 15.57.41 # for 200€ 15.58.00 # Jukebox Recorder 20 15.58.28 # for nostalgic ;) 15.59.19 # probably a stock of old returned broken garbage :) 15.59.43 # how many do you think they have? ;) 16.00.07 # no idea... 16.00.20 # Hm. Depends on the original firmware / rockbox ratio I assume 16.06.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.10.22 Join zeekoe [0] (HydraIRC@zeekoe.kabel.utwente.nl) 16.21.05 Quit edx () 16.28.00 Part Zagor 16.46.53 Join c0g0 [0] (~keranamu@218.111.4.153) 16.46.57 # hey guys 16.47.11 # does anyone think they can help me out with some questions 16.47.25 # ask 16.47.29 # Like, what's the meaning of life ? 16.47.51 # jyp: irrelevant :) 16.47.57 # lol ya something like that gg 16.47.59 # * jyp sftu from now on. 16.48.04 # well im gonna buy a pmp... 16.48.18 # and i want one that plays all divx and xvid files 16.48.19 # I'm out: I don't know what pmp is. 16.48.29 # portable media player ;D 16.48.49 # c0g0: buy a laptop ;) 16.48.53 # * kurzhaarrocker knows the archos jukebox recorder only 16.48.57 # lol heeh 16.49.20 # and i wonder... when it says that a player decodes DivX 4.x/5.1/5.2 (*.avi), 30 fps at 720x480 16.49.41 # does that mean it can only play movies that are in that format or does it only show it in that format? 16.49.49 # 720x480 i mean 16.50.10 # this example is from the mobinote dp7010 16.50.15 # c0g0: i have looked at many dvd players lately, and i don't know of one that plays all divx/xvid formats good. so i assume there is no decoding chip available that does. 16.51.10 Part kurzhaarrocker 16.51.25 # ic.. 16.51.27 # he ok.. 16.51.28 # hmm 16.52.03 # but i mean, if i but ... lets say archos av480 (thats what it think im gonna buy) .. will i be able to play wares movies 16.52.11 # that are released? 16.53.08 # that player plays alot of divx and xvid i think... 16.53.55 # as i said, many devices play most files, but not all. some don't play stuff with global motion compensation, some have problems with packed bitstreams. 16.54.55 # ah ic.. 16.55.16 # i thought that maybe they had some kind of standard on the scene for codeing/... 16.55.50 # most people use xvid 16.57.20 # yes, but some use packed bitstream while others don't, for example. that's easy to fix, but some xivds won't play on my dvd, while others will. 16.58.07 # ic.. thx man 16.58.22 # hmm, searching for that i found that for example the 480 plays vbr sound too slow, and it will come out of sync 16.59.45 # take a pma 400, it's run on linux and u'll install vlc on it to be sure to playback all videofiles of ure choice 17.00.03 # ya.. im thinking of the pma400 17.00.11 # but its fuckedup expensive 17.00.12 # c0g0: http://www.emuboards.com/invision/lofiversion/index.php/t19556.html read the last long post in that 17.02.01 Join webguest30 [0] (~40fc5e91@labb.contactor.se) 17.02.02 # bobTHC: do you know vlc will run on it? 17.02.33 Quit webguest30 (Client Quit) 17.03.40 # ohh thx 17.03.51 # it's run on zaurus 17.05.56 # and on yopy, i don't understand why it's dont run on a similar devices like PMA400 17.06.35 # what cpu is in the pma400? 17.06.38 # anyone knows? 17.09.16 # hmm why cant they make the pma400 with bigger hdd and a 3.8 screen! 17.09.21 # soooo anyoning 17.09.49 # eh, you already said it is too expensive as it is 17.10.33 # hehe.. ok.. and a cheaper price ;D 17.19.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder: it's an ARM9 17.20.09 # ok 17.20.10 # nice 17.20.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> plus Texas DSP stuff 17.22.29 Quit c0g0 () 17.39.55 Join Spida_ [0] (Spida@pD9FFACE2.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.40.05 Quit jyp ("Leaving") 17.41.54 Join jyp [0] (~jp@226-101.242.81.adsl.skynet.be) 17.43.21 Quit Spida (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.49.57 Part LePoulpe 17.51.41 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a230.wi.tds.net) 18.03.42 Join mecraw_ [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 18.06.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.27.10 Join mecraw__ [0] (~lmarlow@69.2.235.2) 18.27.29 Join dcran [0] (dcran@c-24-118-33-67.mn.client2.attbi.com) 18.27.38 Part mecraw__ 18.29.07 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.43.23 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.45.59 Join Taxi [0] (Taxi@oslo-dhcp-248-180.bluecom.no) 19.24.13 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("CGI:IRC") 19.45.43 Join TexJoachim [0] (~TexJoachi@p3EE2696B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.46.47 Join gargantua [0] (~vinceteam@lapierre-5-82-227-179-144.fbx.proxad.net) 20.03.08 Join lImbus [0] (lImbus@51-198.246.81.adsl.skynet.be) 20.05.00 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.06.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.11.35 Quit Nibbler (Connection timed out) 21.00.26 Join Zagor [242] (foobar@h254n2fls31o265.telia.com) 21.09.45 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@24-168-110-99.si.rr.com) 21.28.54 Join Irl_27 [0] (omaghman@81-86-87-245.dsl.pipex.com) 21.29.14 # hi all 21.30.30 # been on the rockbox web site and trying to download the new flash rom..but the link is dead 21.30.31 # http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash/flash_fm.zip 21.30.46 # is there anywhere else i can download it from? 21.32.57 # uh 21.32.59 # hi 21.33.11 # if /that/ link is dead... 21.33.12 # hi 21.33.42 # I don't know of any other place 21.34.00 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 21.34.17 # the link to http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash/flash_fm.zip works for me 21.34.33 # not for me too 21.34.36 # i will try again 21.34.43 # Works for me too. 21.34.58 # I'll grab a copy of all flash packages. 21.35.07 # gotta go 21.35.09 Part LinusN 21.35.12 # this is the msg i am getting 21.35.12 # We are sorry, but the private homepage server could not find the file you asked for. 21.35.12 # Please check the URL to ensure that the path is correct. 21.35.33 # It looks like a 404, but is called 410 21.36.11 # can some download the flash_fm.zip for me and dcc over irc to me? 21.36.13 # please 21.36.24 # Irl_27: dcc send? 21.36.34 # yes please 21.36.39 # Answer before question? 21.36.42 # ! 21.37.05 # yes 21.37.29 # thanks a million 21.46.49 Quit gargantua (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.47.32 Nick Spida_ is now known as Spida (Spida@pD9FFACE2.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.53.39 Quit Irl_27 () 22.06.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.23.57 Join Yokalosh [0] (~3efc0007@labb.contactor.se) 22.24.09 # Hey people 22.24.16 # hi 22.24.16 # I have a query.... 22.25.17 # no one'll bite if you just ask 22.25.34 # Is there anyway of solving the problem that in the video files u can make, how do you make it so that the video and the sound is at the same speed 22.25.49 # The video is always too fast 22.26.29 # So, can anyone help? 22.26.39 # * Bagder never made a video 22.26.45 # i've never encoded video, so i don't know how to sync properly, no 22.27.18 # Oh... 22.27.52 # Yokalosh: What tool(s) are you using to convert the video? 22.28.14 # Erm the ones it refers you to on the rockbox website 22.28.44 # There are 2 methods... using the cmd line tool set, and a DirectShow converter for Windows 22.29.10 # Okay 22.29.16 # can you tell me any? 22.29.44 # I aint really a hacker or anything so i need an easy method 22.30.23 # The (older) way, using the cmd line tools, is explained in the video tutorial, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VideoTutorial 22.30.49 # Oh yer 22.30.54 # that is the way i tried 22.31.03 # but the video is always too fast 22.31.08 # It should work, if you use the correct values 22.31.18 # What video do you try to convert? 22.31.30 # A video from the internet? AVI format? 22.31.44 # What Framerate does the video have? 22.31.52 # I had some mpegs i converted them to avi using my other software 22.32.04 # 27.9 or something like that 22.32.11 # that is too fast isnt it? 22.32.13 # The .AVIs still play in sync? 22.32.18 # (on the PC) 22.32.40 # Yes on the pc 22.33.17 # The source frame rate can't be too fast or too slow, but you need the *exact* value for a properly syncronized video on rockbox 22.33.31 # okay so like 30 22.33.37 # or 29? 22.33.43 # instead of 29.7 22.33.50 # or whatever 22.34.11 # Is that right? 22.34.57 # Select the video in explorer, and look up the properties via the context menu. It should tell you the exact frame rate 22.35.33 # okay 22.36.16 # Okay cool 22.36.26 # and that should fix the problem 22.36.28 # ? 22.36.30 # What value is it? 22.37.12 # (You need to convert it again with the correct value. I'll tell you the steps) 22.38.11 # "The H10 will not be a Mass Storage Complient device, instead, it is an MTP device. Which means that it will act like a MSC on Windows XP machines, and only XP machines. Will not be recognized by Linux or Mac type computers." 22.38.24 # strange decision 22.38.28 # Wth is H10?? 22.38.35 # new iriver player 22.38.52 # hahaha 22.38.53 # It is 25 22.38.55 # what fools 22.39.27 # I know the steps i think 22.39.29 # Yokalosh: 25 fps is pal... so you do need to set some options while converting. 22.39.31 # are there any good points to that approach? 22.39.43 # Okay 22.39.46 # continue 22.39.50 # preglow: i don't know 22.39.53 # Yokalosh: 1) AVi2yuv, as described 22.40.20 # 2) Halftone -m 25 22.40.32 # -m 25 is the movie frame rate (input) 22.40.52 # 3) Avi2wav, and encode with lame 22.41.33 # Zagor: i see that microsoft endorses the h10, that choice might have been a condition for some sort of cooperation 22.41.49 # yes, probably 22.42.05 # Yokalosh: 4) rvf_mux 22.42.18 # That's it 22.42.38 # ok 22.42.40 # thanks 22.43.35 # By default, halftone.exe uses the NTSC frame rate, which is 29.97 fps. If you convert a PAL video (25 fps) or any other video with a different frame rate, and you don't specify -m, it will nnot be in sync 22.44.03 # So always check your input frame rate first, and if it is not 29.97 fps, use the -m parameter 22.50.03 # For some reason this is not mentioned in the tutorial... perhaps because it's written by an American. I'll add this hint 22.50.47 # Zagor: where did you read that, btw? 22.51.26 # http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.896 22.52.53 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~Joerg@pD9FF8B19.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.54.05 # damn 22.54.08 # this is quite interesting too: a new smaller neuros player, called "neuros 3": http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.870 22.54.11 # i'm glad i got my h120 while i could 22.54.31 # i would have got a neuros, actually, hadn't it been for the lousy reputation of the hard drives they use 22.54.51 # really? what drives do they use? 22.56.50 # forget it 22.56.53 # i'm confusing things 22.56.57 # rio had the shitty drives 22.57.08 # aha 22.57.34 # but, this i don't get 22.57.36 # . Does not feature gapless MP3 playback. 22.57.52 Join windchill [0] (~marc@pub212004076150.hfc.datazug.ch) 22.57.57 # very few players do 22.57.59 # why the hell, after having been nagged incessantly at for about a year, wouldn't iriver code gapless playback in their newest player? 22.58.06 # it isn't that bloody hard 22.58.10 # because it will sell anyway 22.58.15 # because they don't care about nagging users 22.58.25 # they already bought a unit 22.58.25 # yes, i'm starting to understand that 22.58.47 # it also makes me conclude that their engineers are incompetent 22.58.52 # but iRiver is no different than other companies in that aspect 22.59.13 # sure 22.59.22 # just a couple of players actually support gapless playback, i think 22.59.31 # and that'd be the rio stuff and the neuros, i think 23.03.13 # and, could anyone tell me if the cpu in the h1x0 is the same as in the h3x0? and i mean both model and clock frequency 23.03.56 # isn't there a comparision on the wiki ? 23.04.10 # preglow: we believe it is the same 23.04.19 # I don't think it is 100% verified 23.04.25 # ah 23.04.50 # preglow: Rockbox suppors gapless on Archos 23.04.52 # in that case, the h120 cpu should have plenty of cycles left for dsp effects after decoding whatever file type it decodes, yes? 23.04.54 # supports 23.05.04 # there's a big patch over the h120 cpu in the scanned images... 23.05.09 # Bagder: yeah, but it's done quite differently from what it should be on an iriver 23.05.15 # oh yes 23.05.39 # i think someone mentioned you have to keep the mp3 encoder from emptying the bit reservoirs when you encode 23.05.45 # and that's a rather nasty hack, really ;) 23.06.01 # lame --nogap is a nasty hack? 23.06.19 # well, if you keep in mind you can get gapless playback without doing that, yes 23.06.24 # preglow: you can fix it in the playback code too 23.06.44 # foobar does perfectly ordinary mp3s gaplessly 23.06.45 # preglow: you can with the decoder in sw yes, not on Archos 23.06.46 # that is, most of them 23.06.50 # there are some requirements 23.06.55 # Bagder: yes, sure, i'm aware of tht 23.07.02 # Bagder: so it's a necessary hack 23.07.19 # I wouldn't call it a hack anyway 23.07.36 # but it doesn't matter 23.07.40 # correct ;) 23.07.46 Quit Yokalosh ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.08.21 # I dont think --nogap is a nasty hack, its just how the software works 23.09.04 # now if only the iriver would recognize that you used --nogap when it decodes 23.09.52 # dcran: the iriver gap is much longer than what is created by the mp3 format 23.10.02 # indeed 23.10.04 # Zagor : agreed 23.10.23 # the mp3 format gap is less than a frame, but still quite noticable 23.10.43 # Zagor : I think the iriver gap is done because of their buffering algorithm 23.10.57 # not entirely, no, all files can be in ram and the gap still occurs 23.11.16 # the gap is longer when the buffering starts too late 23.11.23 # I find iriver's crappy id3 display more disturbing than the gap 23.11.51 # the gap is by far the most annoying thing, if you ask me 23.11.51 # they seem to read the id3 data when the song starts 23.11.57 # The one thing that I am hoping for from rockbox is the nogap option, I listen to quite a few albums that dibt have gaps 23.12.06 # over half of my albums have gaps, easily 23.12.18 # ehh, have gaps where they shouldn't be, at least 23.12.38 # dibt/dont 23.12.39 # why is gaps that annoying? even CDs have gaps 23.12.46 # no 23.12.48 # they don't 23.12.51 # not unless you make one 23.12.59 # Badger : I have quite a few CDs that dont have gaps 23.12.59 Quit windchill (Remote closed the connection) 23.13.04 # Bagder: Live CDs/Mixes don't 23.13.10 # right 23.13.18 # most of my CDs have pauses between the songs though 23.13.27 # artists that make electronic music especially are fond of not having gaps between tracks, i think 23.13.36 # (And rockbox does a very nice job playing them gapless, btw, if encoded with --nogap) 23.13.41 # and i listen to quite a bit of electronic stuff 23.13.52 # I listen exclusively to "electronic" music 23.14.00 # Actually there are a few artists that do epic albums and from song to song there is no gaps 23.14.06 # i listen to absolutely everthing, but started out electronic 23.14.09 # autechre as we speak 23.14.09 # heh 23.14.21 # live albums are usually gapless, too 23.14.24 # so, I'm just amazed, that's all 23.14.30 # although, I have one with gaps 23.14.49 # spocks beard, neal morse, , Dream Theater, Rush, Pink Floyd 23.14.50 # gaps were never an issue to me 23.14.58 # indeed 23.15.08 # dream theater have gaps on their cds :-) 23.15.16 # on certain songs 23.15.22 # nevermind, it should be remedied quickly enough once the rockbox core is up and running 23.15.33 # that is good to hear 23.15.50 # I edited one DreamTheater album in a wave editor to get rid of the gaps. bow it's one track on the cd... 23.16.01 # where do we stand with progress on the bootloader? 23.16.38 # have to ask LinusN about that 23.17.02 # seems he hasn't got that much time to work on it 23.17.03 # it is pretty near 23.17.33 # ahh, i really look forward to that 23.18.02 # we are many that do! 23.18.17 # the day my h120 becomes a programmable hardware platform, hehe 23.20.35 # does anyone know how well (if at all) the dsp capabilites of the coldfire in the irivers are integreated into gcc? 23.21.40 # I don't know 23.22.44 # i would be surprised if they were 23.22.58 # yeah, me too 23.23.20 # and judging on the state of the binutils, I don't think coldfire is very actively maintained 23.23.44 # ach 23.29.01 # well, luckily, it's more or less a 68k, so gcc should at least optimize pretty well 23.30.31 # but we'll need the extra precision mac unit in the various decoders for sure 23.30.37 # oh well 23.31.33 # room for gcc hacking! ;-) 23.31.39 # hahaha 23.31.58 # if you've seen the gcc code, and are still able to use that smiley, you must be brave indeed 23.32.29 # hehe, I have modified samba, it can't be worse ;-P 23.33.07 # nah, seriously. If it comes to that we need that, I hope we'll manage to fix it 23.33.18 # i don't think it'll be that much of a problem 23.33.57 # worst case, we could just juse some __asm macro to do the coldfire specific parts 23.34.09 # use, at least 23.34.30 # yes 23.35.06 # i was just thinking more along the lines of intrinsics, but that might just be commong for simd stuff for all i know 23.39.19 Quit zeekoe (" .") 23.43.34 Join Christi-S [0] (~Christi@213.78.104.71) 23.43.52 Quit adi|work ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]") 23.43.59 # Any Rockbox developers around? 23.44.04 # yes 23.44.31 # Ah, good. I'm trying to compile the current dailies and I'm getting an error I don't understand 23.45.02 Join bagawk [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 23.45.53 # Which I would repeat here if my copy and paste weren't suddenly acting up. 23.46.08 # :) 23.46.33 # * /home/christi/work/rockbox-devel/rockbox/rui-build/sysfont.c:19: parse error before `_font_bits' 23.46.39 # count yourself lucky you didn't suddenly paste some half-secret thing 23.46.45 # that happens to me when my copy and paste acts up 23.47.41 # Christi-S: and that file looks ok? 23.47.51 # static bitmap_t _font_bits[] = { 23.48.00 # Can't see anything wrong with that. 23.48.21 # presumably bitmap_t isn't being defined properly somewhere. 23.48.22 # I can 23.48.27 # static const unsigned char _font_bits[] = { 23.48.29 # is mine 23.48.53 # Okay. 23.49.17 # you ran make in the tools dir? 23.49.35 # could be an old convbdf 23.49.44 # Maybe I don't have all my source properly updated from cvs. I did a 'cvs update rockbox' - are there other packages I need to update 23.50.13 # that should do 23.50.33 # still, did you make sure convbdf is the latest? 23.51.28 # My guess is no since it claims to be from 2002. 23.51.35 # heh 23.51.39 # run make in tools 23.51.59 # :) 23.52.31 # 2002 was 3 years ago! 23.52.41 # it was?! 23.52.42 # Don't see how that would help since I'm looking at the source file. 23.52.44 # :-) 23.52.45 # Humm rockbox is how old now? 23.52.55 # Time sure goes fast 23.52.58 # Christi-S: the source file is built at make time 23.53.11 Part jyp ("Leaving") 23.53.15 # eh, what CVS repo are you using Christi-S? 23.53.59 # it sounds like you may be using the former one 23.54.04 # :pserver:anonymous@rockbox.haxx.se:/cvsroot/rockbox 23.54.10 # ok, that's fine 23.54.11 # uhhhh 23.54.21 # oops, wrong window :-$ 23.54.40 # so on line 793 in convbdf.c, you should see the line I showed you from my sysfont.c 23.54.52 # Ah, that seems to have helped. 23.55.01 # ok 23.55.06 # goodie 23.55.14 # Now I'm just getting errors caused by my mods. 23.55.42 # I leave you to sort them out on your own! ;-) 23.57.39 # According to SF.net: 1092 days is how old rockbox is :) 23.58.06 # but we didn't add it on SF the first day... 23.58.12 # True 23.58.22 # whatever the first day was ;-)