--- Log for 25.01.105 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 11 hours ago 00.00.08 # LinusN? 00.00.14 # hmm 00.00.53 # LinusN, Bagder: if i get something like xlib: connection to ": 0.0" refused by server <--- why does this happen? anything i can try to "repair" that?? 00.01.09 # try "xhost +" 00.01.14 # amiconn: yes? 00.01.26 # There is that image waiting for download... 00.02.00 # downloading... 00.02.35 # unable to open display ":0.0" 00.02.36 # :) 00.02.56 # i'm trying to install firefox using a xterm :/ 00.11.08 # * HCl yawns 00.11.18 # any news regarding the iriver port? :/ 00.12.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.13.24 # HCl: not really 00.13.29 # ok :/ 00.14.43 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 00.15.13 Join bagawk [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 00.15.36 # * HCl finds a link to changing your iriver startup icon while browsing the wiki, ponders doing that tomorrow 00.17.06 # You can do all the tweaking oyu want when rockbox works on it :) 00.17.12 # true :p 00.17.16 # its prolly safer to just wait. 00.17.28 # i'm just impatient :P 00.17.36 # and slightly annoyed that there's hardly anything i can do to help 00.18.34 Join Digital007 [0] (~acbe59a2@labb.contactor.se) 00.18.51 # should expect my new earphones soon 00.19.22 # Digital007, Which did you get? 00.19.52 # a friend of mine recommended these headphones.. and they were like.. 200$, so i'll be saving for a while :X 00.20.08 # * HCl stepped on his current headphones, left headphone is a bit broken :/ 00.21.10 # the white Apple uprated earphones, not the standard ones 00.21.30 # i don't have an iPod, i have an iRiver H120 00.21.52 # * HCl has an h140... 00.22.09 # im a huge fan of white earphones 00.23.01 # how is iRiver box coming on? 00.23.30 # i'm not sure myself, i was just checking the site 00.23.39 # seems they've just added encoding/decoding of normal firmware 00.23.46 # yea 00.23.51 # will it appear eventually iRiverbox? 00.23.51 # so they can actually make a rockbox firmware file that'll flash onto your iriver 00.24.09 Join markun [0] (~markun@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 00.24.10 # also, i think that since i last checked the list, backlight support went from 0% to done 00.24.17 # cool 00.24.30 # hey markun 00.24.34 # hope the iRiverbox will support the remote and its LCD 00.24.43 # *wonders whether he knows you* 00.24.44 # Hi 00.24.52 # where're you on campus? 00.24.55 # markun, hello 00.25.07 # Linus, are you still here? 00.25.08 # * amiconn needs a faster connection... 00.25.21 # Humm i think zeekoe goes to the same place 00.25.24 # anyone want to buy a Dell 17" CRT monitor? 00.25.28 # amiconn, ??? 00.25.28 # HCI: calslaan 00.25.32 # amiconn: only 4 hours and 42 minutes left 00.25.32 # i replaced it with a Samsung 17" TFT 00.25.40 # Digital007, how much? :) 00.25.53 # £200 00.26.00 # LinusN, of what? 00.26.10 # picture quality is fantastic 00.26.12 # markun: mmm, you wouldn't happen to have been a gopher at the last minicon? just cause i talked to one who had an iriver and was interested in rockbox.. 00.26.16 # AND NO DEAD PIXELS WHATSOEVER! 00.26.19 # LinusN: what datatype should I use for unicode strings? 00.26.28 # LinusN: Hopefully you use a tool that supports resume ;-) 00.26.33 # 200 pounds for an crt monitor o.o;;;; 00.26.44 # you can almost buy a new tft for that money o.o 00.26.52 # Digital007, maybe if a lived in england, Shipping to here would cost a bit :) 00.26.53 # HCI: Yes, it's me! I now have a Ihp-120. 00.26.57 # ah :p 00.26.58 # yay. 00.26.59 # my TFT cost £200 00.27.08 # *waves* 00.27.11 # i wasn't selling my CRT for £200 00.27.14 # ohh 00.27.14 # xD 00.27.15 # sorry 00.27.16 # BTW:I is that ~100$? 00.27.18 # i thought you were :X 00.27.18 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.27.25 # I dont't know exchange rates well :) 00.27.34 # hmm 00.27.46 # 00:27 <+cu2q> HCl: GBP 200.00 = USD 375.497 00.27.55 # i couldn't imagine having a TFT that had one bright red pixel right in the centre of the screen 00.27.57 # markun: unsigned char for utf-8? 00.28.01 # Ohh had it wrong lol 00.28.09 # euro and pound are higher that dollar right now 00.28.50 # LinusN: I was thinking of using UTF-32, or else we will be decoding the strings all the time. 00.29.01 # markun: gonna come to the next minicon? its next saturday 00.29.14 # http://daniel.haxx.se/currency/ <= my little currency site 00.29.28 # But I don't know if I can just use long because it's only 16 bit on archos. 00.30.04 # HCI: I don't think I will. My girlfriend's here for the weekend. Maybe. 00.30.20 # k 00.30.24 # its hcL 00.30.26 # by the way 00.30.26 # :p 00.30.27 # 100000000 USD (United States Dollar) = 697244400.000 SEK (Sweden Krona) 00.30.40 # Bet you did not know that :) 00.31.11 # markun: (1) The archos jukeboxes are 32 bit. (2) using utf-32 will most probably break the max binary size, plus eat up too much precious ram 00.32.48 # amiconn: I don't want to use UTF-32 for everything. Just for passing strings to lcd_puts e.g. 00.33.38 # Yes, but what about the many string constants? 00.33.48 # UTF-8 00.33.57 # bye 00.34.04 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 00.34.10 # These have to be converted before passing them to lcd_puts() etc anyway. 00.34.48 # * HCl yawns and goes to sleep 00.35.03 # Or we may use a "decoded string cache", but that adds complexity.. 00.35.03 # HCl: see you around on campus! 00.35.53 # *nods* 00.35.57 # byebye 00.36.02 # :) 00.36.13 # *grins* 00.36.14 # bye 00.36.32 # markun: I think decoding UTF-8 can be made rather fast. The biggest challenge is the font handling 00.38.50 # Yes, fonts can get very big. Do you know the fixed-size bdf fonts that come with x11? 00.39.16 # no 00.41.09 # They are public domain and contain a lot of glyphs. 00.42.29 # I will have another look at the chinese patch how they do the dynamic loading and unloading of font parts. 00.43.27 # I think this needs something like an lru cache. 00.45.05 # Yes, a good idea. 00.47.56 # I'll sleep over it.. 00.48.26 # I think the ascii chars should be preloaded (or perhaps not even part of the caching strategy, but be "sticky") 00.49.25 # I agree, but even if the were part of it they wouldn't be swapped out because the are used so often I think. 00.49.47 # This would ensure 2 things: (1) No additional disk accesses as long as no special char needs to be displayed. (2) Rockbox could always display messages even if the font file becomes inaccessible 00.52.10 Join bagawk [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 00.52.43 # time to sleep, cu 00.52.53 # I want to store the glyphs seperate (not in one big 'bits') because now all the unused places are allocated anyway (and filled up with the default char) 00.53.29 # Plus, unicode handling needs to be added in a backwards-compatible way, ensuring that rockbox can still be built without it. 00.53.55 # There is the player, which will never be able to display unicode... 00.54.16 # I know. Can it display rocklatin? 00.54.29 Quit jyp ("poof!") 00.54.35 # Yes, that's what rocklatin is about 00.54.42 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 00.54.58 Part quelsaruk ("Ooh, look, a shiny object...") 00.55.06 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.55.10 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@naked.iki.fi) 00.55.19 # The player lcd is charcell based, but there are 4 (old lcd) or 8 (new lcd) characters that can be redefined. 00.56.50 # Does anyone here know how to mount a squashfs image within cygwin 00.56.55 # That's not much. So cyrillic is not possible with the player? 00.57.12 # bagawk: not me. 00.57.15 # I done feel like patching my kernel and building (takes 1 1/2 hours on my machine :() 00.57.40 # markun: Unfortunately not, imho. 00.58.46 # The player font code uses some sophisticated code to make sure the important characters are displayed correctly, replacing less important chars with similar ones from the rom. 00.59.41 # That is, if an "ä" is to be displayed, and there are free redefinable chars, it displays an "ä", but if all slots are taken for more important things, it shows an "a" instead. 01.00.05 # ok, that's what I thought. 01.00.51 # Well, it's the best you can do with such limited hardware. 01.03.24 # amiconn, I'm off to sleep now. 01.03.36 # Nite markun 01.03.56 Quit DMJC-L ("Leaving") 01.03.57 # Thanks for the unicode advice. 01.04.01 Quit markun ("Leaving") 01.04.33 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 01.06.00 Part LinusN 01.19.54 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@24-168-110-99.si.rr.com) 01.41.15 # rockbox rox 01.41.20 Nick grimreap- is now known as grimreap (~grimreap@c-24-7-207-20.client.comcast.net) 01.43.02 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 01.50.54 Quit Digital007 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.05.46 Part amiconn 02.12.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.30.57 Quit mecraw () 03.39.07 Join adi|work [0] (~chatzilla@12.152.233.130) 03.39.36 Nick adi|work is now known as adi|hotel (~chatzilla@12.152.233.130) 03.57.02 Quit ze (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.57.02 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.57.02 Quit hgb (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.57.02 Quit Ka_ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.57.15 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.58.20 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.58.20 NJoin hgb [0] (~hgb@cm-80.111.5.236.chello.no) 03.58.47 NJoin ze [0] (ze@adsl-63-205-40-9.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 04.00.21 NJoin Ka_ [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010732484pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 04.12.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.34.51 Join adi|hotel_ [0] (~chatzilla@12.152.233.152) 04.35.36 Quit adi|hotel_ (Client Quit) 04.36.02 Join adi|hotel_ [0] (~chatzilla@12.152.233.152) 04.37.10 Nick adi|hotel_ is now known as adiamas (~chatzilla@12.152.233.152) 04.43.11 Quit adi|hotel (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.44.54 # * desrt blinks 04.48.13 Quit adiamas ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041107]") 06.12.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.33 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a43276.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 07.29.50 Join pike| [0] (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) 07.32.58 Quit pike (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.05.01 Quit midk_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.05.13 Join midk__ [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 08.12.42 Join B_Marcks [0] (~b_marcks@pool-70-17-188-45.pitt.east.verizon.net) 08.13.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.13.37 # hey, anyone know what the problem is if my screen on a JBR20 just goes blank all of a sudden and stays that way for a few days? It's been working fine since I installed RockBox for the last month, but all of a sudden the other day it did this 08.17.48 Quit B_Marcks () 08.39.13 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.17.39 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 10.00.05 Nick pike| is now known as pike (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) 10.11.43 Join MooMaunder [0] (~me@194.152.87.150) 10.13.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.58.37 Join grimreap- [0] (~grimreap@c-24-7-207-20.client.comcast.net) 10.58.41 Quit einhirn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.02.52 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FEAE.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.11.50 Quit midk__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.12.10 Join midk__ [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 11.15.23 Quit grimreap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.16.27 Quit amiconn (" reboot...") 11.34.08 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD9E7FEAE.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.38.15 Join grimreap [0] (~grimreap@c-24-7-207-20.client.comcast.net) 11.56.07 Quit grimreap- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.03.44 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so cool") 12.13.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.18.47 Join webguest83 [0] (~53c2f682@labb.contactor.se) 12.19.10 Join webguest60 [0] (~53c2f682@labb.contactor.se) 12.19.10 Quit webguest83 (Client Quit) 12.19.57 Quit webguest60 (Client Quit) 12.39.16 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~d90a3255@labb.contactor.se) 13.41.26 # busy day ;) 13.41.56 # :-) 13.45.41 # amiconn: i can't repeat the longdb problem you reported yesterday. going down/up i come back to the same artist. how do you trigger it? 13.59.36 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.00.41 # Zagor: I just checked it. It doesn't happen if you do browse only. But if you browse by artists, then go down ->albun->track, play a track, then stop and go back, you end up at a different artist. 14.01.01 # testing... 14.02.14 # can't repeat in the simulator. trying on target. 14.03.53 # got it in target 14.03.58 # weird 14.09.27 Join jyp [0] (~jp@239.219-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) 14.13.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.28.08 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe_@65.115.46.225) 14.30.01 # Zagor, Bagder: Do you know if/when Linus comes in today? 14.30.49 # He started downloading my MMC dump, but it stopped around halfway (because my provider disconnected me). There was no resume action... 14.33.00 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 14.44.51 Join MooMaunder [0] (~me@194.152.87.150) 14.45.03 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@217.30.249.62) 14.46.20 # amiconn: he called in sick today, so i'm not sure he'll come online 14.51.45 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.53.11 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA763.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.07.54 Quit R3nTiL () 15.26.47 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 15.27.09 Quit midk__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.27.14 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 15.29.00 Join Shulberry [0] (Taxi@oslo-dhcp-248-180.bluecom.no) 16.13.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.03.24 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.12.46 Quit Shulberry (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.18.53 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.32.13 # wohoo, id3 searching 17.38.32 # Gratz! 17.38.35 # ;) 17.38.46 # i have 229 songs with "love" in the title :) 17.40.14 # 2 possible explanations: your romanticism, or lack of imagination of songwriters. :P 17.40.21 # :) 17.42.59 Join Spida_ [0] (Spida@pD9E09CA4.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.43.25 Join Shulberry [0] (Taxi@oslo-dhcp-248-180.bluecom.no) 17.44.47 Quit Spida (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.45.59 # gotta go 17.46.01 Part Zagor 18.08.53 Quit jyp ("poof!") 18.13.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.16.58 Nick Spida_ is now known as Spida (Spida@pD9E09CA4.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.17 Quit mecraw () 18.29.11 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 18.32.16 Join quelsaruk [0] (~kvirc@80.103.136.49) 18.32.18 # hi 19.02.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi 19.37.24 Join MooMaunder [0] (~paul@cpc1-stkp4-5-0-cust117.mant.cable.ntl.com) 20.08.27 Join einhirn_ [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 20.08.42 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a43276.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 20.09.39 Quit einhirn (Nick collision from services.) 20.09.50 Nick einhirn_ is now known as einhirn (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 20.10.22 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@24-168-110-99.si.rr.com) 20.13.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.20.29 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("CGI:IRC") 21.15.07 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.23.40 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.41.05 Quit pike ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 21.42.44 Quit elinenbe (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 21.49.03 # how come the fm radio reception is so much better on rockbox for the ondio than with the stock firmware 22.05.59 # It is? :-) I didn't even know. 22.08.37 # A known improvement with rockbox over stock firmware on Ondio is increased battery runtime. 22.13.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.28.15 Join thecrecarc [0] (~18dfe1de@labb.contactor.se) 22.28.50 # si the gmini port going to be on the 400? 22.30.33 # if you help out 22.31.05 # well, i don't got one yet :P but i did find a site that MIGHT help.... not sure if it would help much tho 22.31.24 # I don't think any sites will help 22.31.25 # t shows the insides of the 400 22.31.38 # well i still think its intersting 22.31.42 # http://gmini400.com/component/option,com_wikidoc/task,viewcontent/docid,3/Itemid,51/sid,2/cid,2/ 22.32.05 # I'll leave that for the gmini guys to judge 22.32.56 # yup... so where are they? 22.33.08 # :( 22.33.12 # !! 22.33.15 # excellent 22.33.28 # there's one! ;-) 22.33.37 # i'm idle these times :=) 22.33.43 # but i'm here :) 22.34.30 # :) 22.34.37 # so is the site helpful? 22.34.43 # sure 22.35.11 # well, i didn't make it... i will be scared to death oopening my 400$ mp3 player :) 22.35.29 # chicken! ;-P 22.35.31 # hmmm author 22.35.31 # Modified by: JJ Cantillon 22.35.39 # seems it is the guy who came one day 22.35.49 # wanted to start a project about the gmini400 22.35.53 # jjdragon 22.35.57 # a nick like this 22.36.27 # well, 22.36.35 # considering he has a site about the gmini 400 22.36.46 # i think he would want a project for it 22.36.54 # he's free to join in 22.37.13 # :) well don't ask me... i was just surfing the web today and forund the site 22.37.22 # we ahd no news about him 22.37.29 # he planned to start something 22.37.41 # he said he hadn"t the capabilities to RE the stuff alone 22.37.48 # but he was motivated 22.38.12 # and he opened it so he got guts.... unlike me whos a wimp :) 22.39.57 # we're also on #gmemu if you want 22.40.43 # k..... but i won't be much of a help... i am just a 40 year old who lives with his mom 22.40.45 # lol 22.40.48 # jk 22.40.50 # :) np 22.42.28 # u had a pic that rockbox was loading on a gmini....how it going? 22.42.50 # nad i REALLY want u to make it on 400 cause i am dead set on getting one 22.42.52 # jyp is working on the sound 22.42.56 # soon 22.42.59 # in a month 22.43.00 # year 22.43.02 # decade 22.43.10 # century 22.43.23 # he has a lot of work with the DSP assembler 22.43.32 # need to be able to compile it 22.43.34 # etc 22.43.44 # jyp sure works a lot 22.43.44 # interact with our gcc port 22.43.47 # ya 22.43.47 # ???? i have no idea what ur talking about 22.43.49 # incredible 22.44.19 # just how many persent is it done? 22.44.24 # i can't wait 22.44.27 # wait 22.44.29 # wait 22.44.30 DBUG Enqueued KICK thecrecarc 22.44.30 # wait 22.44.33 # erf 22.44.44 # dunno how to quantify 22.45.13 # it is impossible 22.46.04 # estimate.... or juts guess... ica n't wait..... 22.46.14 # and yu isn't there a gmini port forum? 22.46.31 # ask Jeff 22.46.38 # he runs the forums on the rockbox.org 22.48.10 # and y is all the other people in these forums quiet? i hate being quite.... everyone says i talk alot 22.48.58 # perhaps they DO things 22.49.53 # i don't 22.49.56 # i just sit 22.49.59 # and polay comp 22.50.01 # and watch tv 22.50.09 # my scedual is SO busy :) 22.50.41 Join Myr- [0] (~fuebel@blfd-d9bb81db.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.50.48 # hi ;) 22.51.29 # anyways, i just wanted to show the site and go cheer the gmini tema on.... and hopefully is i have money left after buying my gmini i will donate it :) 22.52.00 # just wanted to ask here before I use the mailinglist. I have a question about digital out. Is there a way to have rockbox shut down the digital output between tracks? 22.52.49 # I remember somebody filed that behavior as a bug a long time ago, but i could use it. 22.57.18 Part thecrecarc 23.02.13 # hmm. the reason I would appreciate to have that feature is copying files from rockbox to minidisc. The minidisc-deck can detect such short shutdown as automatic track splits. 23.16.36 Join jyp [0] (~jp@239.219-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) 23.17.20 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- irc client ownage!") 23.20.20 Quit Myr- ("bye") 23.53.30 Quit grimreap (Nick collision from services.)