--- Log for 27.01.105 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 12 hours ago 00.06.57 # dang 00.07.03 # red 00.07.05 # :-) 00.07.28 # only 202 errors 00.08.17 # Ooohh - I caused a red build. But it wasn't my fault, really ;-) 00.08.49 # lol 00.09.06 # yeah yeah, they all say that! ;-P 00.09.48 Join thecrecarc [0] (~thecrecar@user-0cdvoeu.cable.mindspring.com) 00.11.26 # Bagder: Trying to assemble sources for a different CPU is not a good idea ;-) (descramble.S, bitswap.S) 00.11.40 # hehe 00.11.54 # I guess SOURCES need some attention 00.12.55 # The build table is sorted alphabetically, I guess? Then iRiver should go between Gmini & Ondio, and not at the end. 00.13.06 # yes 00.13.12 # case sensitive in fact 00.13.21 # that's why iRiver is at the right end 00.13.55 # Ah, unix-like confusion ;-) 00.13.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.14.04 # yeps ;-) 00.14.15 # I could fix it 00.15.50 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 00.15.54 Quit thecrecarc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.16.15 Join thecrecarc [0] (~thecrecar@user-0cdvoeu.cable.mindspring.com) 00.18.23 Part thecrecarc 00.19.54 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.21.43 Join popa [0] (popenciya@baklan.Stanford.EDU) 00.21.55 # @find pimsleur 00.22.08 # !list 00.22.13 # ehh 00.22.16 # hi 00.22.27 # i think you've got the wrong channel? 00.22.37 # maybe 00.22.50 # Even though I was going to be here 00.23.41 # ze, are you here? 00.24.36 # today's early sleep day. Good night all! 00.24.38 Quit jyp ("poof!") 00.27.13 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.39.44 # hm. 00.39.55 # @find l33t hax0rs 00.40.23 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 00.40.24 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 00.40.50 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 00.42.57 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 00.45.25 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 00.45.42 Join midk__ [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 00.46.03 # ok, the usb power without usb mode thing fully works now.. also fixed a bug where the usb screen would appear in the screendump mode along the way, i'll make a patch of it 00.47.35 Quit popa (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.47.35 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.47.35 Quit midk_ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.47.35 Quit ratzinger (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.47.35 Quit Spida (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.47.35 Quit ze (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.47.35 Quit echs (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.47.35 Quit webmind (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.49.43 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.49.43 NJoin Spida [0] (Spida@pD9FFAFD3.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.49.47 NJoin ze [0] (ze@adsl-63-205-40-124.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 00.50.02 NJoin webmind [0] (~random@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 00.50.30 NJoin echs [0] (~echs@217.160.217.244) 00.55.37 Quit echs (Remote closed the connection) 00.55.42 NJoin popa [0] (popenciya@baklan.Stanford.EDU) 00.55.42 NJoin ratzinger [0] (zazz@dh051-118.chem.sunysb.edu) 00.55.42 Join echs [0] (~echs@217.160.217.244) 00.55.56 Quit echs (Killed by sagan.freenode.net (Nick collision)) 00.55.56 Join echs [0] (~echs@217.160.217.244) 00.55.59 Quit popa () 01.07.20 Quit ratzinger ("Leaving") 01.08.46 Part amiconn 01.28.21 Quit mecraw () 01.41.08 Quit Pieter_ () 02.01.57 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.1.99 'Realia'") 02.13.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.21.11 Quit _aLF (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.07.28 # ugh.. 03.10.22 Quit preglow ("ke") 03.11.04 Quit Ka (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.11.04 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.21.14 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.21.14 NJoin Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010732484pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 04.14.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.42.20 Join joewo [0] (~43771883@labb.contactor.se) 04.44.25 # hi there...i installed the new rockbox on my jukebox recorder 20. prior to the install i had 3 directories for songs containing 999 files each. since rockbox can see more files than that in each directory i moved all of my songs to one directory via USB. Now all my Archos can see is 400 songs per directory but i can see all of the files there using Windows Explorer. Any idea how I can see all of the songs in the directory? Thanks 04.48.02 Join elinenbe_ [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 04.48.46 # i also get the Dir Buffer is Full error message 04.49.00 # i looked in the discussion board and found no answer 04.50.52 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.52.50 # is there a company that increases the harddrive in a jukebox recorder 20? 05.14.33 Quit joewo ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.46.42 Join edx [0] (edx@p54879B29.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.14.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.46.30 Quit midk__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.03.38 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.06.16 Quit Taxi|3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.14.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.19.45 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 08.19.52 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 08.44.08 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 08.46.40 Join Shulberry [0] (Taxi@oslo-dhcp-248-180.bluecom.no) 08.48.23 Join einhirn 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at -- it gets filtered by what is on that line? 16.02.47 # for instance if you are typing "a" then everything with an a comes up. 16.03.01 # and as you add letters -- it filters dynamically 16.03.32 # then if you add a "b" to spell "ab" then only items with "ab" in it are there 16.03.40 # it could work like that, but i'm not sure what the advantage over a simple search field is 16.03.54 # and if you finish it off "abba" then it will just list the "abba" tracks. 16.04.40 # well, you get the point. 16.05.16 # incremental search isn't very fun, since the keyboard is a screen where you don't see the search resul 16.14.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.19.13 # that is why we need a "splash" keyboard 16.19.38 # feel free :-) 16.28.14 Join Bagder_ [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 16.28.17 # a splash keyboard that is grascale translucent -- so you can see what is behind it... 16.28.30 # haha 16.29.12 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a43276.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 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19.48.17 # Hey folks 19.48.51 # I'm trying to figure out how to remove the hard drive from the FM Recorder. Anyone know how I can do this? I already have the battery out 19.48.56 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.53.56 Quit R3nTiL () 19.57.06 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 20.05.33 Quit LukeR () 20.10.18 Join Janomat [0] (kamayaka@pD9EBF3F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.11.22 # huidaho... any hardware specialist online (concerning my tuned rockbox 8mb and flash dropped on the floor two weeks ago, first i thought it was the harddisc but....) 20.11.53 # the problem seems to be anywhere else... the jukebox working fine but is running out of power after bout 5-10minutes 20.12.12 # on every hd access vcc voltage seems to break down... 20.13.17 # so ? anybody awake jet ?? :) 20.14.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.15.27 # hmm seems as if not :( 20.52.37 Join ripnetUK [0] (~mirc@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 20.53.49 Quit ripnetUK (Client Quit) 20.56.39 # hmmm still now hardware freak online ? :] 21.00.20 # jesus, what the heck the hell are you doing here :) 21.01.53 # idleing ;) 21.02.17 # seriously dont know anything of your hardware so cant really be or help 21.04.21 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@24-168-110-99.si.rr.com) 21.13.32 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 21.14.20 # Janomat: i assume you have checked the battery connections and all that? 21.14.26 # jupp 21.14.32 # just loading the batteries externally 21.14.40 # but the problem seems to be the fet transistor 21.14.56 # the IRF? 21.14.59 # the hd stops spinning up when the battery voltage is about 4.8V 21.15.05 # dunno which type 21.15.06 # mom 21.15.22 # T1 022G 21.15.27 # the hd isn't supposed to work below 4.75V 21.15.49 # well so how can this device work with 4x1,2V batteries :) ??? 21.16.23 # because the voltage is much more than 4.8V when they are full 21.17.42 # hmm it´s the voltage i´ve measured 21.17.54 # then your batteries aren't full 21.18.03 # rather empty 21.18.25 # the rockbox loaded whole night and this morning when i copied 10gb onto the rockbox WITH power supplie attached to it the system stopped after about 6gb 21.18.46 # that is a common problem 21.19.08 # the charger can't keep up, as the hard drive drains the batteries faster than it can charge them 21.19.13 # the problem is the MC34063A then i changed this on a friends rockbox cause it was blown up 21.19.27 # also a common problem, yes 21.19.41 # the power supply isn´t capable of suppling 600mAh?? 21.20.38 # yes it is, but a constantly spinning hard drive requires a lot, and the charging circuit only delivers about 350mA maximum 21.20.46 # ouh 21.20.51 # with a regulated 12V supply 21.20.54 # so everything should be okay ? 21.20.58 # read the battery faq 21.21.03 # k 21.21.15 # btw the rockbox flashs quite cool dunno if you also worked on it :) 21.21.26 # well, if it runs out of power after 5-10 minutes, something must be wrong 21.21.50 # i'v done my share 21.21.59 # * Janomat hugs LinuSN 21.22.13 # but it's mostly Jörg and Jens work 21.22.43 # Actually, it's mostly Jörg's work. I've merely done the adaption for the player. 21.22.54 # A propos player - Linus? 21.23.32 # been quite sick 21.27.05 # hmm i´ve just measured once more and loaded the batteries externally... 5.3V on the batteries going to read the faq now 21.29.48 Join Zagor [242] (foobar@h254n2fls31o265.telia.com) 21.34.53 # hm read the faq but two questions left 21.35.00 # shoot 21.35.24 # 1: what does the battery test plugin want to tell me with the time and the % 21.36.09 # it tells you the time it has run, and the estimated remaining battery playtime percentage 21.36.37 # huh don´t think so :) or it´s buggy tells me my rockbox ran for 45:47:13 21.36.59 # battery 100% well who cares 21.37.06 # how long did it run then? 21.37.30 # the box was disassembled till yesterday evening 21.37.49 Join markun [0] (~markun@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 21.37.55 # due to hd change from 20 to 40gb the whole rockbox stuff was removed from hd and i did the flash yesterday 21.38.03 # 8mb mod was done mid last year 21.38.30 # so you only have the white led mod left to do .-) 21.38.32 # so if it stores the stuff in ram or on hd there cannot be a larger value then 24h 21.38.40 # white led mod :) ? 21.38.50 # white backlight *G* :) 21.38.50 # i have while backlight on mine 21.38.55 # white 21.39.02 # thats too moddy 21.39.09 # Hi LinusN, I just wanted to show my rendering of UTF-8 filenames: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/utf8-5x7.png 21.39.15 # 300% better visibility imho 21.39.22 # and http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/utf8-6x13.png 21.39.38 # well you need good fitting leds though 21.39.52 # its not 0805 nor 1206 what format have they ? 21.39.56 # yes, those i bought fit perfectly 21.40.35 # amiconn, are you there? 21.40.54 # i believe they were 0805 21.41.09 # markun: yup 21.41.40 # I now also think UTF-8 is a good option. 21.41.43 # markun: télépopmusik - and then what?? 21.42.00 # hmm going to take a closer look at that don´t wanna loose connection to the top of modding :) 21.42.01 # It's something Heisenberg said :) 21.42.04 # Janomat: The original LEDs are not 0805, but 0805 does fit, although not perfect. You have to solder them in vertically 21.42.21 # Only the last - should be a / 21.42.33 # i took pictures when i modded daniels recorder, will do a wiki soon 21.43.32 # Do you guys know what encoding the strings of readdir are in on Windows? 21.43.42 # linus your from norway as far as i remember ? am i wrong ? if so and your possibly from germany where to buy these leds :) 21.44.02 # close 21.44.13 # sweden ? 21.44.16 # yes 21.44.25 # hmm within the eu :) 21.44.28 # i bought them from germany 21.44.37 # norway isn't a eu country :) 21.44.50 # sweden 21.44.56 # but yes 21.45.02 # how's the bootloader coming along, linus? 21.45.08 # quite well, actually 21.45.16 # any major hurdles left? 21.45.24 # i finally fixed the problem with the lcd init 21.45.51 # so now rockbox runs correctly from a cold start in flash 21.46.07 # next is to do the actal boot loading 21.46.08 # great! 21.46.43 # Janomat: I ordered the from Schuricht. 21.47.04 # the only shop i´ve got no account :) 21.47.36 # sorry, i didn't buy them in germany, it was from here: 21.47.46 # http://www.wirelessity.ch/shop/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/32_394/products_id/1802 21.48.09 # They sell a minimum quantity of 10, so I have 6 left. I wanted to put 4 of them into the player, however I did not yet manage to unscrew the front assembly (LCD button cover) without breaking either the screwdriver of the screws :( 21.48.10 # popcom 21.48.23 # *LCD and button cover 21.49.15 # LinusN: Is there a recommended method to get these screws off? 21.49.42 # from suisse 21.50.18 # amiconn: i use a screwdriver 21.50.49 # never had any problems 21.50.58 # haha, of course. However, these screws are so tight that my screwdriver bends instead of moving the screws even a bit. 21.51.09 # wow 21.51.23 # must be superglued then 21.52.40 Quit jipi ("Leaving") 21.52.43 # hmm well seems as if only the copying this morning stressed the batteries so much... was really worried. cause before the 20gb harddisc had mechanical problems... i changed it and the batteries ran out within the same period as with the broken harddisc... i attached a samsung yesterday... working fine so far... 21.52.56 # i have only 4 leds left, but they are reserved for dwihno 21.53.16 # Janomat: good 21.53.17 # no problem... going to order them at one of my distries next time... 21.54.20 # going to reassemble... 22.00.56 # I tried some japanese: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/utf8-japanese.png 22.01.24 # But the font is way too big for the rest of the text as you can see. 22.02.07 # yeah 22.03.21 # I had so many ideas in my head that I didn't know where to start. I'm now writing it down in little steps and I will try to focus on 1 problem at a time.. 22.03.30 # hey linus battery test plugin shows me 45:78:01 what timing scheme du you use within rockbox :) 22.04.07 # how long did it run? 22.04.24 # well 24h 22.04.31 # or now 30seconds 22.04.37 # cool 22.05.38 # cool ? hmm 22.06.24 # have you set the time on the jukebox? 22.06.40 # dunno well going back to work i need the rockbox for nf input for my actual project anybody beeing interessted www.riewel.de/a.JPG to d.JPG 22.06.48 # mom dunno if after reassemble 22.07.05 # the battery test plugin needs a correctly set clock 22.07.05 # nope 22.07.59 # Janomat: eeh, what is it that you're building? :-) 22.08.27 # time is set shows me the actual time when testing 22.08.56 # well these two devices are for our lifeguard house at the starnberger see (one of the bigger lakes in south germany) 22.09.07 # nearby munich (south) 22.09.14 # the stuff is for the radio system 22.09.45 # the bottom case is the power supply for the radio stuff and the amplifiers (12V 480W 3.3V 160W and other voltages) 22.09.55 # Janomat: i was wrong, the time in the plugin is (like you said) the current time, not the play time 22.10.26 # the upper case is the main logic using a 8051 derivate (this case a 80c535 with 512kb flash and 64kb ram) 22.10.50 # the pcb board in the pics is a nf matrix logic... 7 inputs got onto 4 channels on the audio bus 22.11.02 # power supply is done... working hard on the other logic... 22.11.20 # 8051...my god... :-) 22.12.05 # yeah the boring thing is that you can only adress 16 bit so page is sized to 64kb blocks. you need to use a special gateway routine... and all the interrupts must be mapped onto the same adress in each page... 22.12.48 # tell me about it, i still have nightmares from old 8051 projects 22.13.10 # i´m writing c most of the time but without using any keil stuff or so 22.13.11 # they should be outlawed 22.13.32 # i used the very sucky IAR compiler 22.13.57 # the compiler ist quite good having routines for all you need. maths string operations and so on. there are even libs for using i²c and so on 22.14.08 Quit markun ("off to a party") 22.14.23 # accessing the lcd was done within 3 or 4 hours 22.14.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.14.49 # the compiler is from www.wickenhaueser.de in my opinion much better than keil i used at the uni 22.15.09 # sorry http://www.wickenhaeuser.de/ 22.16.25 # the problem at the moment is that i have to handle lots of io (digital resistors and nf selectors...) i ordered a logic analyzer on friday from america cause the $ so cheap but i think it will take some time to have it here... 22.16.47 # so at the moment i´m working on housing for the amplifiers racks 22.18.21 Join oxygen77 [0] (~Chris@pauguste-7-82-66-87-78.fbx.proxad.net) 22.18.29 # well after everybody felt asleep :) i´m going to work 22.19.20 # one can't live without a logic analyzer :-) 22.19.57 # www.iriver.com drives me nuts!!! 22.20.17 # a total flash orgy, and mozilla has serious problems with it 22.20.57 # if i ever meet those web designers... 22.21.06 # * Janomat hides 22.21.12 # just kidding 22.22.52 # :-) 22.26.51 Join jyp [0] (~jp@49.6-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) 22.28.30 # iriver.com is a nightmare to navigate 22.29.34 # it sucks more than any other site i've seen so far 22.30.03 # i completely agree 22.30.09 # i couldn't even find the bloody forums 22.30.22 # those forums are awful anyhow 22.32.13 Quit oxygen77 ("Leaving") 22.36.47 # LinusN: did you ever see my post on the MisticRiver forums with the APEv2 tag specs? 22.36.54 # yes i did 22.37.20 # glad to hear it, it was a page or so after your request so i wasn't sure 22.37.27 # changing to other irc server... thanx for the info linus till the next mod :D 22.37.33 # Janomat: good luck 22.38.14 # thanx cya all and keep on coding... 22.38.17 Quit Janomat () 22.53.58 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23.12.41 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.13.17 Quit methangas (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- irc client ownage!") 23.19.15 Join quelsaruk [0] (~kvirc@85.48.36.28) 23.19.19 # brace for impact, incoming id3 search. 23.19.20 # hi 23.19.55 # * LinusN hides under his desk 23.19.59 Join TuDo [0] (~chatzilla@ip54505768.speed.planet.nl) 23.20.42 Quit TuDo (Client Quit) 23.29.08 # "I deliberately chose not to comment it." 23.29.14 # that's an interesting take 23.29.18 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 23.29.32 # (from strcasestr.c) 23.29.41 # yeah... 23.34.27 # only 87 errors now! ;-) 23.34.38 # whee! :) 23.35.14 Join Goatmale [0] (~Goatmale@d149-67-95-8.clv.wideopenwest.com) 23.35.34 # Hello 23.35.47 # hi 23.36.38 # How are you? 23.37.52 # LinusN: You talked about the battery_test plugin earlier. There is a bug with it.... 23.38.15 # The button handling cannot work as intended as it is now. 23.38.44 # perhaps so 23.39.28 # From the description I think it should do one outer loop (1x reading the dummy file and 1x printing time & battery status) per the time needed to empty the buffer with 128 kbps playback. 23.39.30 # What do you guys get on battery life? 23.40.02 # Additionally, you should be able to short-cut such a cycle by pressing a button other than OFF 23.40.06 # Goatmale: i don't know, maybe 10 hours on my 2300mAh batteries 23.40.17 # hmmm 23.40.25 # However, as it is, it's stuck in the inner loop forever if you don't press a button... 23.40.33 # I get like 2... ;.; 23.40.35 # i got more with my 2400mAh, but can't remember 23.40.51 # Which model archos doyou have? 23.40.53 # Goatmale: get a new set of batteries 23.41.07 # do { ... } while (!(button&(BUTTON_REL|BUTTON_REPEAT))); This loops as long as there is no button release... 23.41.10 # mine are 1500 I think.. 23.41.10 # i know i could make my drive from portugal to my house without pluging it to the charger.. and i spent 10 hours driving :) 23.41.29 # :-) 23.41.34 # Goatmale: batteries wear out over time 23.41.53 # I got mine around christmas ;.; 23.41.59 # new? 23.42.12 # I'm not sure 23.42.12 # then there's a problem somewhere 23.42.12 # I just found Zagor is to blame for this.... 23.42.15 # it was sealed 23.42.23 # but it had music in it 23.42.30 # damn ebay.. 23.42.42 # Goatmale: everyone have musin in it 23.42.49 # get a new set of batteries 23.42.50 # a folder and some stupid songs 23.42.56 # *music 23.42.57 # they come with music? 23.43.07 # a few demo songs, yes 23.43.15 # where can I get batteries? 23.43.40 # Goatmale: you have a v1 with plain AA-batteries? 23.43.46 # nah 23.43.50 # I have green 23.43.53 # ones.. 23.43.55 # heh 23.44.02 # yes, they are AA-sized 23.44.07 # NiMH 23.44.11 # yep 23.44.11 # but them anywhere 23.44.18 # buy 23.44.37 # AA-sized NiMH-batteries are very common 23.45.03 # It came with another pair 23.45.06 # amiconn: cvs annotate is your friend. kjer added that button loop. 23.45.07 # should i try those? 23.45.12 # Goatmale: do that 23.45.12 # try those 23.45.33 # I'll do that now 23.45.44 # Do I have to let the batterys run out the first time? 23.46.15 # yes 23.46.20 # damnit 23.46.22 # is better 23.46.29 # but doesn't really matter 23.46.35 # Zagor: Oh, sorry then. Should have checked this before. Will correct the issue. 23.46.49 # Ni-MH batts should not have memory (or so they say...) 23.47.22 # (and the slightly off playback emulation too. It's 128 kbit/s, not 128 Kbits/s, so it's 16000 bytes/sec, not 16384) 23.49.11 # Imho it would be actually better to choose a higher value than 128 kbit/s. This often sounds awful. 192 kbit/s seems to be common today, or lame --preset standard 23.51.48 # the purpose of the plugin was to see how long the device would run under light load. adjusting for bitrate doesn't really do much other than decrease the values you get. nobody gets close to those values with real usage anyway, so the plugin values are not comparable 23.52.02 # Will the archos say battery charged when it's done? 23.52.14 # Goatmale: sometimes, yes 23.52.22 # horrah. 23.53.13 # Zagor: Okay, understood. And maybe this way the figures are more comparable to those given by mp3 player manufacturers. They often base their statements on 128 kbit/s mp3, to make the numbers look better. 23.53.40 Quit Goatmale ("thanks everyone") 23.54.02 # I think the off values could well be caused by the inner loop blocking. The file won't be read at all if the device sits silent on the desk. 23.54.16 # Hence the disk wont draw power, only the cpu etc. 23.54.35 # off values? 23.54.56 # .... nobody gets close to those values with real usage anyway, so the plugin values are not comparable 23.55.31 # no, i got fantastic numbers even in the first version that didn't have that loop 23.56.34 # Hmm, strange. 23.57.31 # I'm looking into this in order to do runtime tests on my Ondio. 23.57.55 Quit jyp ("poof!") 23.57.57 # ok 23.58.15 # I intend to verify the alkaline discharge curve, and add one for NiMH, in order to add a battery type config.