--- Log for 29.01.105 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 days and 11 hours ago 00.00.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> and want to copy it to my MMC 00.01.22 # I figured some parameters that might be useful. I could give them so you don't need to figure them out again 00.03.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> ok 00.03.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> it won't happen tonight 00.07.45 # * amiconn needs some sleep now 00.07.47 Join bagawk [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 00.08.19 Quit amiconn (" nite") 00.15.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.15.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm off, too 00.15.44 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 00.16.44 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 00.20.29 Part jyp ("zoom!") 00.20.43 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 00.21.01 # it builds! it builds! 00.21.39 # nice 00.22.39 # at least the firmware, looks like the bootloader hasn't been stuffed into the makefile yet 00.23.13 # no, I think Linus plans to put it in a separate directory 00.23.28 # so the source is still missing 00.23.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/bootloader/ 00.23.53 # well, it is in a separate dir 00.23.57 # i've checked that out 00.24.05 # * Bagder is slow 00.24.25 # but the makefile needs a lot of stuff defined, so i guess he plans to make the main makefile call it 00.24.37 # yes, it looks like it 00.24.39 # rather make the configure script support it 00.25.08 # * Bagder spots a mistake... 00.27.35 Quit QT (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.28.00 # preglow: add a line like this 00.28.05 # @$(MAKE) -C $(ROOTDIR)/bootloader 00.28.13 # yep, i've done it 00.28.13 # under all: in the root Makefile 00.28.20 # it built just fine 00.30.37 # haha, the firmware is currently two kilobytes big 00.31.10 # :-) 00.31.23 # hell, the bootloader is just two kilebytes as well 00.31.24 Join bagawk [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 00.31.26 # that's pretty good 00.32.03 # perhaps Linus left that out from configure for a reason 00.32.11 # I'll ask him before I add it 00.32.23 # do so 00.32.42 # but i think i'll wait before i try making a flash image, heh 00.32.55 # Yay, 1 semester of school done :) 00.33.01 # i'll need to familiarize myself with rockbox before i do anything anyway 00.36.01 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.36.31 # Bagder: maybe to stop people building and testing it :-) 00.36.51 # yah, all those annoying testers who only complain! 00.36.56 # :-) 00.37.21 # so LinusN, what is your comment you log reader! ;-) 00.37.35 # not guilty 00.37.55 # you turned me into a newt! 00.38.05 # you got better 00.38.42 # i didn't add it to configure because i was unsure how to do it 00.39.16 # so i ran configure for the iriver firmware and modded the makefile by hand 00.39.40 # yes, that's more or less what i've done 00.40.29 # ok, me do a fix 00.40.36 # mostly straightforward, except for one thing 00.40.46 # you need to add this line: 00.40.52 # export EXTRA_DEFINES=-DBOOTLOADER 00.40.56 # aha 00.41.12 # that's for the crt0.S 00.41.24 # me fix 00.42.04 # woot, i didn't do that 00.42.29 # preglow: well, you didn't test if it worked did you? :) 00.42.38 # ofcourse i didn't test it, hehe 00.42.53 # i love my player and have no means of reflashing it 00.43.33 # chicken! 00.43.35 # :-P 00.43.49 # i wholeheartedly agree 00.44.09 Join bagawk_ [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 00.45.17 Quit bagawk_ (Client Quit) 00.46.27 # Bagder: you working on the configure? 00.46.35 # yes 00.46.48 # remember that there should be no scrambling 00.47.21 # I don't understand 00.47.26 # it doesn't really matter, i use the .bin file anyway 00.47.45 # the .bin file is inserted into the original firmware 00.47.52 # then it is scrambled 00.47.53 # I'm just about to add the bootloader to the build, I won't change anything else 00.48.42 # by adding a configure selection? 00.48.52 # 10) iriver boot loader 00.49.06 # can't we just build it uncontionally? 00.49.23 # i don't get it 00.49.31 # you need to generate a makefile 00.49.43 # yes 00.49.47 # either by hand or with configure 00.50.10 # but what does the makefile do is the question 00.50.27 # same thing as all the other ones 00.50.43 # sets up a bunch of exports and then calls the other makefiles 00.50.53 # I don't understand 00.51.05 # what is the bootloader? 00.51.13 # i'm talking about the makefile that is generated by the configure script 00.51.20 # me too 00.51.30 # * Zagor spots massive confusion 00.51.37 # the bootloader is used instead of apps/ 00.51.52 # ah 00.52.00 # you build the boot loader by building the firmware library and then the bootloader app 00.52.06 Quit bagawk (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.52.09 # now we're getting somewhere! ;-) 00.52.18 # basically, you use bootloader/ instead of apps/ 00.52.40 # so you need to generate a makefile just like you do when you build rockbox 00.52.50 # should I make that a "platform" or an option of the iriver platform? 00.53.09 # don't know... 00.53.23 # option, methinks 00.53.29 # yes 00.53.34 # that'll make more sense 00.53.40 # N)ormal, D)ebug, S)imulator, B)ootloader 00.53.43 # (and break more scripts ;-) 00.53.59 # good idea 00.55.18 # so you generate a "normal" makefile, with "bootloader/" instead of "apps/" 00.55.22 # yeps 00.55.31 # and the extra defines 00.55.40 # and the export EXTRA_DEFINES=-DBOOTLOADER 00.55.42 # yes 00.56.23 # i'll write a wiki page on how to generate the final .hex file for the firmware upgrade 00.56.31 # do so 00.56.45 # i'd like to read some success stories before i flash mine :P 00.56.55 # 1) descramble the original 00.57.20 # 2) mkboot original.bin bootloader.bin newfirmware.bin 00.57.41 # 3) scramble -iriver newfirmware.bin ihp_120.hex 00.57.55 # 4) copy ihp_120.hex to the iriver and do a firmware upgrade 00.58.15 # 5) pray to god of your choice 00.58.30 # 6) Sell it for parts on Ebay 00.58.35 # hahahah 00.58.57 # this could be a cover to get you guys more irivers to pick apart, you know! 00.59.08 # exactly, you're on to us 00.59.34 # we "repair" them, sell them and make tons of money 01.00.16 # and "everyone" is happy 01.00.28 # you know too much, we will have to kill you 01.00.47 # that's alright, i'm tired of living anyway 01.00.54 # just give me time to sell off some organs 01.01.00 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 01.01.03 # try my new configure fix 01.02.10 # will do 01.02.44 # what, so the bootloader is built seperately from the firmware? 01.02.53 # yes 01.03.04 # Bagder: the rockbox.iriver file shouldn't be created 01.03.26 # partly my fault 01.04.45 # isn't that made by bootloader/Makefile? 01.04.58 # ahh, the firmware got a bit fleshed out now, yes 01.05.12 # Bagder: yes it is 01.05.18 # my bad 01.05.23 # what's the difference between the .bin and the .iriver? 01.06.03 # the .iriver is "scrambled" 01.06.21 # ahh, ok 01.06.51 # why does that make it bigger? does it contain checksums or something as well? 01.06.57 # * LinusN is installing the newly created bootloader 01.07.03 # preglow: exactly 01.07.20 # in this case, the scrable is our own custom header with only a checksum and a 4-byte model name 01.07.21 # preglow: the scrambling makes it 8 bytes bigger 01.07.36 # ahhh, but ofcourse, you don't have to use irivers exe format 01.07.40 # i was about to ask about that, hehe 01.07.50 # bootloader works 01.08.10 # thanks Bagder 01.08.17 # no problemos 01.08.21 # why do you scramble your own firmware? 01.08.32 # its not scrambled then 01.08.34 # only checksumed 01.08.39 # hokay 01.08.41 # we don't scramble it, we only add a header 01.08.56 # that makes more sense 01.09.38 # Bagder: any particular reason for the 16-bit summing in scramble.c? 01.10.01 # nah, not really 01.10.12 # ok, good 01.10.34 # the endianness bit me when i summed in the loader 01.10.45 # I noticed, and I was stupid not to think of it 01.10.54 # me too :-) 01.11.01 # and... 01.11.15 # ah, no 01.11.33 # sorry, thought we could remove the separate checksum loop, but we can't since the other one is 16 bit checksum and this is 32 01.12.02 # night 01.12.10 # agreed, time to sleep 01.12.11 # nigthey 01.12.16 # nite all 01.12.28 Part LinusN 01.13.39 Quit Atur ("Leaving") 01.19.07 Join bagawk [0] (~Lee@bagawk.user) 01.19.22 # I found a problem with the configure script 01.19.52 # Select a number for the language to use (default is english) 01.19.53 # 1. Lee 01.19.53 # 2. CVS 01.19.53 DBUG Enqueued KICK bagawk 01.19.53 # 3. apps 01.19.53 # 4. build 01.20.09 # ahahah 01.20.26 # that didn't happen here 01.21.50 # Those are rather intersting choices for manguages :) 01.22.34 # indeed 01.22.37 # preglow, is your source fresh? 01.22.41 # bagawk: cvs 01.22.58 # bagawk: i'd say it is intensely fresh, i checked it out ten minutes ago, hehe 01.23.06 # preglow, cygwin or *nix? 01.23.08 # nix 01.23.13 # what build target do you use? 01.23.34 # I was experimenting with the iriver, but it happens with all targets 01.23.46 # Maybe it is just a problem with cygwin? 01.24.29 # Can anyone confirm? 01.26.33 # well, both cygwin and linux works fine here 01.26.37 # at least to that point 01.26.41 # after that cygwin does not work here 01.26.51 # i think most people have gone to bed 01.27.05 # i too have been using the iriver build, so i think something funky has happened in your end 01.30.31 # for file in $rootdir/apps/lang/*.lang; do 01.30.47 # I know little about shell scripts but 01.31.06 # what would rootdor be? same as pwd? 01.31.11 # *rootdir 01.32.08 # and where it got "Lee" is very weird, as there is no folder by that name 01.32.22 # the only thing with that is my user name 01.35.35 # BTW: Most people are not in bed here, only 16:35 01.35.40 # ;) 01.38.09 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 01.39.36 Quit mecraw_ () 01.53.45 Quit preglow ("leaving") 02.09.32 Join johntb [0] (~Baumans@66.216.162.53) 02.15.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.15.52 Quit edx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.34.09 Quit johntb ("Leaving") 02.40.53 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! 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Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 03.08.36 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 03.56.03 Join edx [0] (edx@p548797E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.04.52 Join al11588 [0] (~Qirc@24-90-114-147.nyc.rr.com) 04.04.58 # hey 04.05.18 # does anyone know is there is going to be a gmini120 rockbox soon 04.05.44 # does anyone know if there is going to be a gmini120 rockbox 04.15.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.19.57 Quit al11588 (":al11588 was using::(qIRC:2.1):: :by::(bLaCKc") 04.48.02 Join webguest28 [0] (~0cb6c05b@labb.contactor.se) 04.48.30 Quit webguest28 (Client Quit) 04.49.05 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-118-234.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.52.02 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@66.198.216.23) 06.10.08 Quit MooMaunder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.15.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.25.44 Quit ashridah ("gone") 07.53.31 Join midk [0] (~midk@c-24-18-39-204.client.comcast.net) 07.53.31 Quit gromit` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.53.41 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 08.15.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.20.41 Quit midk ("Leaving") 08.26.31 Join methangas [0] (methangas@0x50a43276.virnxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) 08.38.09 Quit mecraw () 10.15.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.10.37 Join QT [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 11.17.12 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.27.44 Quit QT_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.14.29 Join jyp [0] (~jp@80.175-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) 12.15.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.18.31 Join ripnetUK [0] (~mirc@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 12.18.37 # morning 12.25.20 # Anyone else built the new bootloader and injected it into a firmware? i dont dare flash it, but I built it and injected it into 1.6 US software. Ended up with a flash hex of size 2074571 and md5 3fdd137e715550ad11a33516c50d3a59 ihp_120.hex 12.25.42 # im gonna wait until miniMon is working before flashing my baby tho:) 12.48.49 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@217.30.249.167) 12.49.13 # I haven't done that yet either 12.49.48 # ok 12.51.49 # i dont understand why the minimon will help - surely only 1 of 2 things can happen - 1. It works in so far as you can boot to the original firmware by not holding REC, or 2. It fails to boot at all, so minimon wont be running. I suppose if it booted the 'new' code but the jmp to the original rom failed minimon might save you 12.52.20 # but it seems to be that if the (complex) minimon can be made to work, its much more likely a simple jmp will work 12.53.26 # having said that, I will follow Linus's advice as he is a hardware hacker and I am not :) 12.53.37 # :-) 13.01.49 # Can I drop one more md5 onto here for verification please? i assume its the bootloader.bin and not the .elf that i should inject. When I build the bootloader.bin I got a md5 of 5fea7b76ec66a8589d5560a59cd96e19 bootloader.bin - can anyone else verify that they got the same? 13.03.33 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-195-158-163-34.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.04.05 # 9da072762fbb437ff4cb28fbcc29d0a8 bootloader.bin 13.04.10 # different 13.05.33 # but it may be due to diff compilers etc 13.06.11 # thanks Bagder... 13.06.41 # it could be. I built the cross compiler exactly as per instructions on the wiki, but of course the cvs from binutils might have been changed since you booked it out 13.08.53 # talk to you later 13.09.20 # my gf just set my non maskable interupt pin high :) 13.09.35 Join NibbIer [0] (~andrer@port-212-202-193-173.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.09.50 # cya 13.10.01 # NMIs are tough :-) 13.10.03 # see ya 13.10.33 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.10.39 Join Nibbler [0] (~andrer@port-195-158-163-34.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.21.21 Join Atur [0] (~marc@host81-154-55-162.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) 13.28.38 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.33.18 Join Zagor [242] (foobar@h254n2fls31o265.telia.com) 13.33.54 # hi z 13.36.22 # howdy. nix' recent mail re gcc is interesting. it sounds like hw knows the code well. 13.36.30 # he 13.36.46 # indeed 13.52.27 # perhaps we should do amicons's little endian magic in config.h 13.52.39 # it is included almost everywhere 13.53.07 # yeah, it's a better place than dbtree.c 13.53.41 # ... but that doesn't include config.h ;-) 13.53.48 # hehe 13.53.54 # perhaps implicitly... 13.54.22 # yeps 13.54.42 Join NibbIer [0] (~andrer@port-195-158-163-34.dynamic.qsc.de) 14.01.51 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 14.12.28 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.12.29 Nick NibbIer is now known as Nibbler (~andrer@port-195-158-163-34.dynamic.qsc.de) 14.15.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.16.25 Quit R3nTiL () 14.22.00 Join Ennan [0] (~email@dslam152-244-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl) 14.22.36 # hi :) 14.22.42 # hi! 14.22.51 # wow, there's people here :) 14.23.08 # you sure? I could be a bot 14.23.10 # :-) 14.23.31 # you could, but i don't think daniel would like some bot taking his name :) 14.23.38 # at least, if i can trust rockbox.org :) 14.24.08 # could i bother you with some hardware questions, or you little busy? 14.24.21 # fire away and I'll try to answer 14.24.47 # well, i tried this in the forums, but since no reply, ill check it myself.. my studio 10 is shutting down when pressure is applied to the front 14.24.55 # so im gonna find out why this is 14.25.11 # but having a little trouble removeing the lcd+button part of the unit 14.25.42 # no trouble stripping it to removed casing, batteries and hd 14.26.27 # I've never done that operation, nor do I have a studio 14.26.36 # Zagor: any hints for Ennan ? 14.26.52 # sounds like the classic loose solder point 14.27.15 Quit Spida ("leaving") 14.27.19 # so it is a known problem? i didn't find too much info, but if it's a known problem, enlighten me with knowledge and/or links :) 14.27.44 Join Spida [0] (Spida@pD9FFA40C.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.30.04 # i don't remember the link. but the basic thing is you want to open the player and heat up the solder joints that hold the boards together. 14.30.32 # the points on the back (hd) side? the two big ones on opposing sides? 14.30.57 # the ones holding the small boards on the short sides, iirc 14.31.28 # http://www.rockbox.org/mods/disassemble2.html 14.31.38 # you mean the yellow circles on the first pic? 14.35.23 # or the grean ones 14.49.16 # sorry, had to rush 14.49.49 # look at this pic: http://www.rockbox.org/mods/a4.jpg 14.50.23 # see the vertical solders on each side, the right one being just to the left of the "T10" text 14.50.49 # the ones on that side? .. yeah i see them.....myself I was looking to the solder point close to the '+' button, wich looked kinda bad to me 14.51.25 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 14.53.07 # problem arises mostley @ the '+' button, therefore i thought it should be down there... 14.53.25 # pressing menu, on etc doesnt shut it off.... 14.54.20 # ok. well reheat all of them, it can't hurt. note that you have those verticals on the bottom board too. 14.54.39 # still, that right one looks badly soldered...like it's almost loose (it isnt though) ... ill have to touch that one up at least...any idea if .....that's exactly what i was going to say :) 14.55.13 Join webguest95 [0] (~04f5359b@labb.contactor.se) 14.55.16 # well, i'll try and come running back if i need more help....and ofcourse, though you get this all the time, i'm still madly in love with the rockbox firmware.. 14.55.41 # good morning... 14.55.52 # mornign :) 14.55.58 # Ennan: :-) you're welcome 14.56.10 # is that weird piece of 'wire' trying to make contact from the batteries to the board?? 14.56.17 # just loaded RB and am Very happy with it. 14.56.32 # runs trough the ... eeuhm, whats the word..spring? for the batterie 14.56.33 # a first time user? welcome! 14.56.48 # I own a V2 recorder, yes thanku.. 14.57.10 # Ennan: afaik it's designed to lessen the spring strength so the board isn't bent too much 14.57.30 # but i'm not sure there has ever been a decisive conclusion 14.57.44 # Zagor: a strain relief? 14.57.50 # *sigh* 14.58.02 # what a weird design :) 14.58.09 # well, heating up the iron :) 14.58.09 # indeed 14.59.50 # Just thought I would see if anyone really used this. Really wanted to express my delight for the new firmware. It has improved my experience with my Archos. 15.00.40 # Seems odd to me though that the manufacturer would make it so clunky 15.01.33 # webguest95: it's quite normal, actually. all mp3 players have awkward firmware. people don't pay extra for better firmware. 15.01.43 # seems odd to me they're not shipping rockbox... 15.01.45 # it's there 15.01.46 # it's great 15.01.51 # why not advertise it 15.01.55 # advertise the community 15.02.05 # 'the only mp3player for real tweakers' 15.02.23 # I agree. I have owned mine now for 6 months before finding RB. 15.02.51 # then they couldn't scam the users who forgets to remove it when they send it back for warranty repair 15.03.24 # :-/ 15.03.56 # rather, they don't want people to use their old products. they want them to buy new ones. 15.04.20 # gotta go 15.04.22 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 15.04.28 # true...but a friend of mine bought the gmini...200?220? the small black/white one with the flash reader 15.04.30 # who knows...prolly right Zagor 15.04.35 # that firmware sucks too 15.04.40 # yeps 15.04.48 # Gmini port is on the way 15.04.49 # @badger: what they do with warranty probs and rockbox? 15.04.52 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 15.04.57 # i told him, he couldnt' wait :) 15.05.13 # Ennan: they clain rockbox voids the warranty 15.05.17 # and charge for repairs 15.05.20 # claim 15.05.34 # ripnetUK: the bootloader (as documented in the wiki) jumps to rockbox by default, and starts the original when rec is pressed 15.05.49 # can they? does it say in the warranty that it's void when using rockbox 15.06.09 # Ennan: they do, and I don't think anyone has sued them over it yet 15.06.30 # my warranty is void anyways, so i couldnt.. 15.06.35 # but id be pissed bout it... 15.07.15 # yeps 15.07.34 # ditto, since I am passed the warr. period, i am considering the 8 meg upgrade on my unit. 15.07.35 # ripnetUK: and it's not a "simple jump" to start the original firmware 15.08.01 # the entire rockbox operating system has to start before the boot loader can confirm that the rec button isn't pressed 15.08.10 # "entire" :-) 15.08.17 # LinusN: you should put that in a wiki page about how to bootload on iriver 15.08.25 # well, a lot of things have to work 15.08.36 # yes, i'm about to 15.08.51 # we'll get heaps of people asking things like that soon 15.09.08 # and heaps of dead irivers .-) 15.09.28 # heh, let's hope we get more questions than dead players 15.09.47 # but paper weights are useful too! ;-P 15.10.05 # just send them to me :-) 15.12.01 # am i still here? 15.12.19 # killed the power on my router... 15.12.22 # yes you are 15.12.25 # yup.. 15.14.03 # I would say that I personaly (?) made quite a scene at work amongst the digitally challenged with my mp3 player. 15.14.26 # No one is very familiar with them at all. 15.14.55 # :-) 15.15.14 # I get the "Is that an ipod?" 15.15.24 # :) 15.15.37 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.15.37 # * rasher is waiting axiously for the iRiver port to reach a state where it's fit for adventurous end-users 15.16.05 # It blows em away when I tell them that I have every CD I own on it 15.17.31 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.19.04 # Bagder: you said you will get questions about irivers real soon? why? 15.19.19 # is there anything planned to be released? 15.19.20 # because the bootloader works 15.19.22 # anything usable? 15.19.31 # Bagder: oh, cool 15.19.32 # you can actually boot rockbox now 15.20.14 # Bagder: for which version of the iriver? the ihp1*0, or the h3*0? 15.20.22 # 100 15.20.23 # 1xx 15.20.29 # 120 and 140 at least 15.22.18 # what about the h3x0 series? is there anything planned for them, too? 15.23.03 # yes, but we start with the 1xx ones 15.23.59 # damn 15.24.05 # touched up the solder points, but still 15.24.14 # when i press 'hard' on the top board the unit just shuts off 15.24.23 # :-( 15.24.34 # Ok then... Let the powers that be know my apppreciation for the hard work. Paypal donation coming soon. :) keep up the hard work. Real life is pressing, good morning. 15.24.38 Part webguest95 15.24.53 # how different are they? (that is, in which timeframe after a working ihp1x0 version can I expect a working h3x0 version? weeks/months/years?) 15.25.03 # it does give me a "power off" message befor shutting down... 15.26.27 # funny, i do have the impression it's improved... 15.27.16 # Spida: I don't know 15.27.37 # ok, thx 15.27.58 # * Spida is expecting his h340 to be delivered early next week 15.28.24 Join sox [0] (~s@c-d43ae255.733-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 15.28.48 # hoy bagder, has anyone actually tried the iriver version? 15.29.01 # LinusN has 15.29.05 # is it safe or a dead end in case it doesnt work 15.29.27 # wait for his wiki page 15.29.34 # it's very very tempting indeed to see my hex file laying there.... 15.29.50 # but i think i better be safe than sorry in this case... 15.29.59 # Right now it seems that you're probably best off waiting a while 15.30.25 # yup 15.30.42 # i agree, but my fingers oppose ;_) 15.32.01 # first crude version of a wiki page is up: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot 15.33.57 # sox: even if you did install the boot loader, you won't have any fun 15.34.08 # why is that? 15.34.17 # the current iriver version of rockbox does absolutely nothing 15.34.27 # it blinks the backlight 15.34.40 # and you can't turn it off afterwards 15.34.43 # well that might be fun to see :-) 15.34.47 # (the CVS version, that is) 15.34.54 # my version does a lot more 15.35.07 # i'll commit it when i have tidies it up alittle 15.35.11 # tidied 15.35.19 # allright, i see 15.35.59 # this is the standard question then: how far away is that? 15.37.13 # @badger: you talked bout the gmini port..site says 200 and sx220..but is the 220 gonna be supported? 15.39.04 # hey Linus, maybe you should add that to the wiki page on the bootloader - that right now you dont have much use of rockbox for the iriver 15.39.57 # Ennan: yes 15.40.08 # did you see this combined charger/usb retractable USB2 cable, btw? Cool: http://www.boxwave.com/products/minisync/minisync-retractable-cable-iriver-h120_354.htm 15.40.27 # @jyp: tnx :) is that including flashreader support? 15.40.28 # :) 15.40.39 # sox: the last I saw of those didn't support usb2 speeds though 15.40.52 # ooh, updated! :D 15.40.57 # yup 15.40.57 # If you have a little bit spare time, please modify the page to use a better wording :) 15.41.29 # jyp: who did you say that to? 15.41.36 # Ennan ;) 15.41.37 # sry 15.41.48 # @jyp: what page? 15.42.18 # Ennan, any page that looks unclear to you ;) 15.42.22 # haha 15.42.31 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 15.42.50 # jyp: i just read the wiki for gminiport, the first page says "his Port of Rockbox will run on the Gmini 120, SP, 200 and 220XS" 15.43.12 # no mention of the 220..but i'm not sure it DOES support it , becouse it is somewhat a different aparatus...with teh flashreader and all 15.43.17 # Flashreader is (I think) easy to support. But first the sound support 15.43.37 # btw, the 220xs is called xs220 :) 15.43.52 # I posted sth on the mailing list regarding that not long ago 15.43.54 # w8 a sec 15.45.32 # hmm, happy with the unit now ;) it's working better :) .. well, if soldering the unit is no prob, than why not go and flash rockbox, rite? :) 15.45.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2005-01/0546.shtml 15.46.11 # the idea is to support all the CalmRisc16-based devices 15.46.40 # why, after actually having tried to use the iriver site, i'm even more flabbergasted by the level of userfriendlyness they've managed 15.46.53 # if I'm not mistaken this includes the 1* & 2* series 15.47.50 # could be, i don't know the internesl of the gmini220 15.47.55 # LinusN: maybe a direct link to the actual files on irivers site would be good? 15.48.28 # hahaha, their search engine reports it has found so and so many hits, then doesn't display any of them 15.48.51 # it's horrible 15.48.53 # @jyp: to be clear, i'm talking bout the unit of a friend of mine, being this one: http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500450_specs.html 15.49.49 # woo... glad i waited for the wiki page about bootloader - i didnt do the descramble / scramble thing... 15.50.10 # the player probably would not have allowed you to flash it, then 15.50.15 # hopefully the iRiver would have not allowed me to flash it 15.50.57 # this site is driving me mad, it only displays the actual search results about on time in ten 15.51.04 # Ennan, this is indeed one of our targets 15.52.47 # great! :) 15.52.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort 15.53.40 # hmm, the blindmanflash page doesn't give the player link...the normal flashpage does however... 15.54.06 # @badger: i know, but it clearly says 200 and 220xs, that's what i meant :) ... it should say 200, 220 and xs220 15.54.09 # i suppose 15.54.41 # * rasher finds a direct link to the iriver firmwares 15.54.52 # does it matter if it's the EU or US version? 15.55.57 # Ennan, i'm not really into the subtleties of versions 15.56.06 # no prob.. ;) 15.56.11 # preglow: try selecting a link from the empty page and then Back in your browser 15.56.35 # :) 15.56.39 # rasher: it should work on any version 15.57.04 # LinusN: i got it off of their swedish server 15.57.10 # Linus - my compiled bootloader has a different md5 to the one bagder has... 15.57.19 # you probably have different gccs as well? 15.57.22 # not sure if its because my tool chain is broken 15.57.48 # rasher: give us the link and spare us the hell 15.57.48 # i dont have the guts to try it... 15.58.08 # sox: sure thing, just a second 15.58.28 # any chance of posting a known working bootloader.bin to the site? 15.58.41 # or better yet, a known working firmware WITH the bootloader? :P 15.58.53 # http://www.iriver.com/html/admin/etc/adet_download_process.asp?fileName=H120(eu)_v163.zip&pathFlag=EG_DOWNLOAD_UP_PATH 15.58.55 # and the md5 of a known working 'modded' firmware (eg version 1.6US modded = MD5 xxxx) 15.59.06 # preglow - (C) restrictions prevent this 15.59.06 # 1.6 ? 15.59.10 # that appears to work 15.59.28 # ripnetUK: i didn't mean puttin it up on the website 15.59.36 # i see 15.59.44 # that would be asking for trouble 15.59.50 # why use the EU version? 15.59.55 # dunno, habit? 16.00.21 # I have a US H120, but the firmware probably dont care.. 16.00.33 # EU have regulations on volume, i think 16.00.37 # i've run the korean firmware on my player, it doesn't matter 16.00.44 # i don't think the h120 one has that restriction 16.00.46 # i have a UK (EUish) iRiver, but ive used korean and us firmware OK - it doesnt seem to care 16.00.53 # at any rate, the link for the us version is: 16.00.54 # http://www.iriver.com/html/admin/etc/adet_download_process.asp?fileName=H120(us)_v163.zip&pathFlag=EG_DOWNLOAD_UP_PATH 16.01.01 # ok, let's try that, then 16.01.17 # I guess I should add these to the wiki 16.01.20 # link works ok 16.02.48 # but yes, who has successfully flashed a bootloaderified firmware? 16.03.05 # cant we post a .ips file (like the ones used to modify snes games from jap to english) to convert a given original iRiver hex to one with the bootloader included? AFAICT that wouldnt violate any (C) 16.03.44 # ripnetUK: good idea 16.03.59 # there are even good open source tool to do the patching 16.04.34 # im sure there are loads of ips tools... i think i used to use smartIPS back in the day 16.04.40 # but right now it probably is better to do it the hard way, so that newbies won't try it 16.04.59 # thats a good idea preglow 16.05.00 # but once it's deemed very stable, perhaps 16.05.15 # maybe... whats stopping me is that my bootloader.bin has a differnt md5 and is thus suspect... 16.05.26 # exciting times 16.05.27 # well, it very probably just is different gcc versions 16.05.34 # what version do you have? 16.05.57 # i ahve the same gcc from the wiki 16.06.07 # but a newer (i assume - its yesterdays) binutils from cvs 16.06.16 # 9da072762fbb437ff4cb28fbcc29d0a8 bootloader.bin 16.06.48 # preglow - thats the same md5 as badger got 16.06.58 # i got something different :( 16.07.05 # well, find your gcc version 16.07.11 # if you've got gcc 3.3.x, then small wonder 16.07.16 # i've got the newest gcc 16.07.17 # 3.4.3 16.07.40 # ive got 3.3.4 16.07.53 # then, indeed, small wonder, they are bound to produce different code 16.08.07 # aha... 16.08.23 # but i can send you my bootloader if you really want it, hehe 16.08.38 # have u flashed it? 16.08.40 # nope 16.09.00 # i'm waiting for confirmation that someone else has successfuly done it first, my life would be miserable without my player 16.09.30 # hehe i think i will wait a bit then... im not flashing anything that doesnt match md5s with one that someone else has successfully flashed... Linus reckons we should wait until badger and zag? have tried it as they are geographically close the the wiggler :) 16.09.40 # ive gotta go, talk to you later 16.09.51 # great 16.10.06 # see you around 16.10.13 # yeah, talk laters 16.11.20 # what's the correct md5? 16.11.33 # there is not correct md5, it depends on your toolset 16.11.36 # i pasted mine above 16.11.52 # and i use cvs binutils and gcc 3.4.3 16.12.00 # MD5 (bootloader.bin) = 713e5391f5b32e66430442ad0b53228d 16.12.27 # gcc version? 16.12.42 # 3.3 16.13.32 Quit Ka ("* poof *") 16.13.40 # well, gotta go, ill wait until i flash mine, but this is gonna be fun! later.... 16.13.43 Quit sox ("Leaving") 16.14.38 Nick Ennan is now known as ennan|afk (~email@dslam152-244-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl) 16.14.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers <-- what the **** is that sorting about? 16.15.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.16.27 # what does the current rockbox for h1x0 do, btw? flash a led? :P 16.16.33 # oh, I see new users are quarantined under "a" :) 16.17.00 # [15:34] the current iriver version of rockbox does absolutely nothing 16.17.00 # [15:34] it blinks the backlight 16.17.00 # [15:34] and you can't turn it off afterwards 16.18.17 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010732484pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 16.18.46 # making a turn off mechanism would propably be a priority, then? :) 16.18.46 Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.20.30 Join QT [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 16.23.03 Join edx [0] (edx@p548797E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.32.34 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.32.39 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 16.34.17 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 16.34.29 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 16.36.08 # preglow: my local copy works, as does the boot loader 16.47.10 Quit ripnetUK () 16.50.49 Quit ennan|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.51.50 Quit preglow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.55.44 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 17.05.43 # LinusN: I just added direct links to the iRiver firmware on IriverBoot, hope that's okay? 17.42.53 Join Spida_ [0] (Spida@pD9E0952F.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.55.31 Quit Spida (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.15.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.45.28 # what's the diff between the EU and the US versions? 18.47.32 # a couple of kilobytes and selectable fm tuner frequency range 18.48.00 # there is also talk of volume restrictions in the eu one, but i don't think they've added that to the h1x0 firmware yet 18.48.10 # ok 18.48.41 # will the bootloader go in the same address for all region firmware versions? 18.48.56 # I don't know 18.49.02 # or have you only tested with eu version? 19.07.29 # zagor: "cd rockbox-build && cvs co bootloader' 19.07.40 # (for the log) 19.08.11 # the bootloader is currently not in the daily source packages 19.08.56 # Bagder: for the h3xx the us version doesnt have usb-on-the-gp 19.09.30 # wow 19.10.26 # * Bagder runs off again 19.25.01 Quit preglow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.27.43 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 19.29.05 Join ripnetUK [0] (~mirc@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 19.45.15 # argh 19.45.23 # i'd love it if my gateway stopped crashing 19.59.40 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@24-168-110-99.si.rr.com) 20.14.17 # Bagder: you didnt know that ? 20.14.48 # there was another differenc,e i read on misticriver, but dont ask me, have forgotten since i have the european one 20.15.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.18.53 Part LinusN 20.21.45 # can anyone tell me if the iriver bootloader is working on h110 ? 20.25.26 # hey ... 20.26.03 # Bagder, I find it impossible to debug the problem of binutil/doc install... 20.26.14 # so I just make a note in the wiki :/ 20.28.36 Join uski [0] (~uski@lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-29-21.adsl.proxad.net) 20.58.08 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD95122E0.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.58.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> new V1 recorders available in Germany: http://tinyurl.com/5gl3o 20.59.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> for 200 EUR 21.05.04 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 21.06.14 # crash_: no, i doubt that it will work on the 110 21.06.49 # i would probably have to change the dram controller settings 21.06.56 # gotta go 21.06.58 Part LinusN 21.08.40 # hi all 21.12.05 Nick Spida_ is now known as Spida (Spida@pD9E0952F.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.15.13 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.15.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.49.28 Quit jyp ("poof!") 23.07.47 Quit [IDC]Dragon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.09.09 # crash_: why would I know such things? I don't have a 3x0 23.11.03 # Bagder: have you tried out the bootloader? 23.11.11 # no 23.11.53 Join lImbus [0] (lImbus@168-160.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 23.13.45 # btw 23.14.00 # "Just follow the normal Firmware Upgrade procedure." (from IriverBoot) 23.14.05 # what is that procedure? 23.14.27 # Update firmware through the system menu 23.16.06 # and how do I do that? 23.16.41 # hrm 23.16.53 # let me see 23.17.04 # put the .hex file in your filesystem root 23.18.00 # open the menu (hold down the "joystick") > general > firmware upgrade 23.18.44 # thanks 23.21.16 Join gromit^ [0] (~gromit@ALagny-154-1-15-68.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.22.11 # no problem 23.22.22 Join ripnet [0] (~mirc@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 23.22.23 Quit ripnet (Remote closed the connection) 23.46.07 Join Trevmar [0] (~trevor@ca-agoura-cuda2h-53.ventca.adelphia.net) 23.48.06 # I tried out the MMX hotplug - flashed the 20050129-ondiofm.ucl, but when I unplug the MMX card the Ondio switches off. Do I need a new .bin image for the boot rom too? 23.48.41 # no just flashing should be enough 23.49.41 # Hmm.. thanks.. 23.54.09 # Rockbox resets if I plug the card in while it is on, also. Partitions look OK. Can't see anything in the Debug info - it is the correct CVS version... Maybe I should try today's build 23.54.48 # nope.. that IS today's build :( 23.55.23 # you probably need to bother Jörg about it 23.55.44 # goodness, I have had enough of his time already :( 23.56.06 # (getting the hardware uart_boot working) 23.56.22 # right, I've seen the thread in the forum ;-) 23.58.18 Join hile [0] (hile@hack.fi)