--- Log for 10.03.105 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 23 hours ago 00.00.13 # he was just here 00.00.30 # Also, in the linux 2.0 driver for gus, there is a comment somewhere that 255 = 100% for env offset 00.00.34 # here?? what IRC name 00.01.32 # ah I see 00.01.35 # where'd he go ? 00.01.53 # offline, probably 00.02.36 # any idea on when he'll be back? 00.02.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> amiconn: for the record: the out-of-card panic does no good, better return an error code. The mounting tries some wild numbers, and so those attempts will just fail. 00.03.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> but this isn't the full solution, still got problems... 00.03.47 # stevenm: none 00.05.23 # preglow, ah, all right.. I'm gonna get going, go study for ENEE exam. Really don't want to fail that 00.06.07 # stevenm: do so 00.06.16 # Hopefully I be back later, and hopefully with the beginnings of a working pitchwheel implementation 00.06.26 # later, people 00.06.32 Quit stevenm ("Leaving") 00.06.44 Quit jyp ("poof!") 00.09.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> 'night! 00.09.31 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 00.11.56 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7E7C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.12.30 Quit mirak ("Leaving") 00.13.51 # mrf 00.14.25 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 00.15.08 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 00.15.10 Quit DrRickDee () 00.15.52 # sup? 00.22.13 # the last 10 seconds of the latest 24 episode are just... well... great :) 00.22.14 # thats up 00.23.16 Quit Patr3ck () 00.25.30 # which is the latest then? ;-) 00.28.59 # 12 00.29.29 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.29.29 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7E7C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.33.35 Quit F1^Aison (Client Quit) 00.36.11 # episode of? 00.36.42 # 24, heh 00.37.02 # o.o; 00.37.04 # whats 24? 00.37.09 # hehe 00.37.12 # a TV series 00.37.21 # aha. 00.37.30 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.37.30 # * HCl slaps windows 00.37.32 # whats it about? 00.37.33 # you don't know 24 ? 00.37.37 # no. 00.37.46 # its sort of "realtime" 00.37.59 # every episode depicts an hour of a day 00.38.39 # in the last episode some terrorists unleashed a biovirus in la 00.38.43 # ey, not episode, season 00.38.57 # ah. 00.38.58 # ok 00.39.03 # * HCl goes to watch bleach 22 now 00.39.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.39.15 # in the season before it was an atomic bomb :P 00.39.16 # crap 00.39.20 # or i wanted to, at least. 00.39.23 # we get episode 23 of season 3 tomorrow 00.39.33 # stupid wireless internet isn't fast enough... 00.39.44 # yeah here in austria we're at season 3 too 00.39.58 # * preglow commences coding 00.40.02 # but why watch that if you can watch the english version of s4 now? :) 00.40.09 # * HCl mrfs. 00.40.20 # * HCl guesses bleach will have to wait for tomorrow, goes back to play with his cat 00.40.39 # eek :P 00.40.55 # is there any other versions than the english version? 00.41.53 # well there is the german dubbed one, for sure, i watched that 00.41.58 # ahh 00.42.00 # i guess there are other language dubs too? 00.42.01 # haha 00.42.03 # germans are mad for allowing good shows to be dubbed 00.42.12 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 00.42.13 # germans are mad for allowing anything to be dubbed 00.42.13 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 00.42.16 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 00.42.19 # well 00.42.26 # the spanish, italians etc do it too 00.42.33 # yes, i know, and they're all mad! 00.42.37 # i think every country does it : ) 00.42.40 # especially the spanish 00.42.49 # CoCoLUS: nope, not the scandinavian ones 00.42.51 # CoCoLUS: only thing we dub in norway are childrens movies 00.42.58 # interesting 00.43.04 # and preferable 00.43.43 # i guess it depends on what you are watching 00.43.54 # if its some kind of dumb action movie, i don't care which language it is in 00.43.54 # well, no, i don't think so, i always prefer getting things in the original language 00.44.37 # i'd much rather watch a german movie in german, even though i can't understand the language all that well any more 00.44.47 # s/any more// 00.44.49 # yeah if you have the luxury of knowing the english language well enough to understand different types of slang, etc. 00.45.12 # yes, i do, but i don't care what language it's in 00.45.17 # as long as its subtitled, of course 00.45.21 # not everyone is that good with english, look at me as an example ^^ 00.45.37 # i watch chinese movies with chinese speech 00.45.41 # woot. 00.45.46 # i come back to bleach playing on my laptop 00.45.51 # o.o 00.45.56 # bleach is your cat? :P 00.46.03 # no. bleach is a cool anime series 00.46.04 # o..o 00.46.12 # haha 00.46.12 # i canceled it cause it was going to slow 00.46.14 # but it seems to work 00.46.22 # i needed to get a break from my flatmates 00.46.26 # they're rather shallow, really. 00.46.29 # it gets annoying o.o 00.46.35 # i tried watching crouching tiger hidden dragon with chinese-mandarin speech 00.46.46 # and that was rather... hard to follow :P 00.46.48 # chinese sounds really cool 00.46.59 # haha 00.47.01 # subtitles does it 00.47.05 # i don't like chinese.. i prefer japanese.. 00.47.11 # japanese is cool as well 00.47.13 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 00.47.15 # but chinese has a nice sound to it 00.47.16 # chinese has these harsh sounds 00.47.25 # where japanese always sounds fluent 00.47.29 # nah, some dialects flow really nicely 00.47.46 # i somehow don't like subtitles 00.48.04 # if its a good movie, i want to sink in it, feel it... thats not possible with subtitles, for me 00.48.13 # if you're not used to it, no wonder 00.48.16 # uh, ok o.o 00.48.20 # don't have much of a choice in norway 00.48.29 # come to austria :) 00.48.38 # haha, i don't want dubbing 00.48.47 # i think the last movie that didn't get some dubbing was "garden state" 00.48.47 # if i have to watch a subbed movie, i'm really annoyed 00.48.50 # which is a shame, really 00.48.51 # it destroys the experience 00.48.57 # subbed or dubbed? 00.49.00 # dubbed 00.49.03 # thought so 00.49.04 # subs are nice 00.49.14 # yea. 00.49.22 # reminds me of germany... 00.49.27 # dub freaks there x.x 00.49.35 # they even dub james bond movies 00.49.42 # sounds absolutely horrid 00.49.50 # deed 00.51.07 # it makes for some funny scenes, though, like the one in tomorrow never dies where bond takes the car from the airport 00.51.27 # i wouldn't know, i never watch dubbed james bond 00.51.29 # he speaks german there, in the english version too - in the dubbed version, it got replaced 00.51.40 # with "correct" german 00.51.46 # ofcourse, they have to match the voice 00.52.22 # brosnan trying to speak german sounded nice ;) 00.52.29 # heh 00.55.46 # you know 00.55.50 # i really, really hate those moments 00.56.15 # where someone else places a higher bid than you at some ebay auction :) 00.56.19 # heh 00.56.24 # sleeeep 00.56.29 # sounds nice 00.56.30 # coffeeee 00.56.30 # code 00.56.31 # o.o 00.56.53 # mh... mando diao :) 01.05.15 # * preglow rolls up sleeves and gets frisky with asm 01.06.15 # gee. 01.06.30 # * HCl dislikes anime side-eps where they don't really continue with the story... 01.06.37 # any progress on rockbox? 01.07.50 # * preglow dislikes anime generally 01.08.47 # apart from cowboy bebop, which is the best thing since sliced bread 01.09.33 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 01.10.23 # i didn't like cowboy bebop much o.o 01.10.38 # you've probably seen the wrong sort of anime 01.10.58 # nah, i've seen quite a lot of it 01.11.14 # there's much that's ok, very few things that are great 01.11.18 # well, the "popular" anime tends to be sort of crappy anyways... 01.11.19 # and much rubbish as well 01.11.39 # everybody kept yelling about evangelion, which i think is complete shit 01.11.58 # i don't really see whats special about evangelion.. 01.12.02 # have you seen noir? 01.12.05 # yeah 01.12.09 # and? o.o 01.12.11 # got a bit tedious, i think 01.12.15 # tedious? 01.12.19 # not much variation 01.12.22 # i didn't see everything 01.12.32 # heh o.o; 01.12.38 # not the worst i've seen, though 01.12.41 # well, nothing can be as bad as inuyasha 01.12.42 # it falls in the ok category 01.13.11 # there we agree 01.13.25 # but no, heads on best anime series i've seen is bebop 01.13.37 # especially since it's got incredible music 01.13.42 # lol. o.o. 01.13.58 # vandread is my favorite 01.14.03 # never saw it 01.14.11 # though mostly the first 13 eps 01.14.17 # the second 13 get more crappy.. 01.14.35 # does it have giant robots in it? 01.14.35 # ah well 01.14.40 # um. 01.14.41 # 'cause i really hate giant robots... 01.14.41 # heh 01.14.49 # somewhat :P 01.14.55 Join YouCeyE [0] (foobar@vp089036.reshsg.uci.edu) 01.15.08 # but here i go on chatting again, i need to code 01.15.08 # its like, part 3d rendered and part animation 01.15.10 Join NibbIer [0] (~sven@port-212-202-193-72.dynamic.qsc.de) 01.15.12 # its mostly spaceship stuff. 01.15.13 # kay. 01.15.14 # ahh 01.15.19 # anyways, it looks really good. 01.15.20 # i'm seeing a series that's like that rgiht now 01.15.21 # last exile 01.15.45 # okish as well 01.15.57 # * HCl has a whole to-watch list.. 01.16.00 # anyways.. get to code.. 01.16.08 # i'll try to find my cat again 01.17.32 Join asdsd [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-34-155.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 01.17.47 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.19.58 # hey guys i have a simple question 01.20.14 # shoot 01.20.22 # oh hey preglow hows it going 01.20.26 # i know u know ur stuff 01.20.29 # anyhow 01.20.39 # haha, that remains to be seen 01.20.46 # are u guys gonna start working on the h3xx before the h1xx is 100 percent finished? 01.21.18 # it's not very easy to say when something is completely finished when you haven't got a goal set 01.21.30 # but it depends anyway 01.21.39 # it might 01.22.05 # depends on who and how many shows interest in doing some dirty work 01.22.34 # ah i see 01.22.40 # but what i mean is like 01.22.47 # were u guys ever working on two players at the same time? 01.22.55 # back in the days of the archos and stuff 01.23.11 # dunno, i wasn't around then, but yes 01.23.20 # most of rockbox itself doesn't depend on a particular player 01.23.28 # just the low level stuff does that 01.23.38 # ah ok, so its very modular 01.23.50 # and in the case of h3x0, i guess what needs porting is the lcd driver and some minor other stuff 01.24.25 # ah ok 01.24.38 # so with any luck, it'll not be a big job 01.25.09 # i also remember, i don't know if it was u or not, but a guy here sent me the iriver_140 ida file 01.25.40 # is there like a Work-In-Progress one for h3xx? or if it needs to be done it has to be from scratch 01.25.54 # none that i know of 01.26.09 # as far as i know, no one has put much effort in h3xx aside from scanning the pcb 01.26.16 # i can't even remember having seen a preliminary map of the h3x0 firmware 01.26.47 # scanning the pcb? 01.26.55 # u mean like identifying the parts? 01.27.32 # yea 01.27.41 # opening it up and scanning it under a scanner. 01.27.58 # lol oh hahaha 01.28.11 # hey HCl i think it was u that sent me that file 01.28.15 # nope. 01.28.29 # wasn't it badger? 01.29.25 # name doesn't ring a bell 01.29.35 # mk 01.29.42 # i mean, bagder 01.29.44 # that's me. 01.31.21 # hmm well s'not important 01.34.18 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.34.36 # so what part of the h1xx are u guys currently working in? 01.34.41 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 01.36.52 Join pike [0] (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) 01.37.15 # so I noticed there was some progress - COOL 01.38.13 Join geoff_o [0] (geoff@HSE-Kitchener-ppp229629.sympatico.ca) 01.39.00 # asdsd: codecs methinks 01.39.27 # so adding support for all the codecs on the h1xx eh? 01.40.03 Part geoff_o ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") 01.42.55 # * HCl wants to take a look at mod playback.. 01.44.58 Quit YouCeyE ("Leaving") 02.02.55 Quit lImbus (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 02.08.08 Join midk_ [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 02.08.10 Quit midk (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.12.23 # * DeadMan sighs 02.12.30 # ? 02.12.42 # audio playback seems a long way off 02.12.55 # we're not really in a hurry 02.13.46 # can't answer that without sounding selfish :) 02.13.49 # heh 02.14.33 # * DeadMan 14»»12 12np 14·7 Jóhann Jóhannsson - Englabörn (2002) 02 Englabörn - 14·7 00:08/01:34 [15¦5¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦7] 14·7 15133 kbps 15(vbr) 14«« 02.15.55 # * HCl listens to Serial Experiments Lain - Duvet 02.17.11 # * DeadMan sits on #animereactor 02.17.11 # heh 02.17.22 # nick MO-Pantsu 02.17.27 # ;) 02.17.46 # I have too much anime to watch 02.17.48 # * preglow The Orb - Valley 02.18.26 # Orbus Terranum or somesuch 02.18.30 # indeed 02.18.30 # lol 02.18.45 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 02.18.51 # * DeadMan has his head in a lot of buckets 02.18.55 Quit Strath (Nick collision from services.) 02.18.59 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 02.19.03 # Too much time spent on the net does that 02.19.09 # haha 02.19.16 # i just plain listen to music all the time 02.19.38 # I have a 300GB HD setup just for music 02.20.09 # 14Hard Disks: 04(14Total15/14Free: 308.2815/173.86GB 15¤ 14Total15/14Free space on: 14C: 74.5315/20.63GB 15¤ 14D: 231.7415/153.22GB 15¤ 14J: 2.0115/0.01GB04) 02.20.09 *** Alert Mode level 1 02.20.09 # 14Network Drives: 04(14Total15/14Free: 843.7515/159.4GB 15¤ 14Total15/14Free space on: 14T: 74.5315/21.38GB 15¤ 14U: 279.4715/75GB 15¤ 14V: 189.9215/15GB 15¤ 14W: 76.3215/40.71GB 15¤ 14Y: 111.7615/2.7GB 15¤ 14Z: 111.7615/4.61GB04) 02.20.47 # * HCl is glad his music collection fits on his h140 with 23gb to spare 02.20.48 # U drive never shows 300GB though. Always feel cheated with hard disk space :) 02.21.12 # manufacturers always do that. 02.21.19 # I filled my H140 easy 02.21.25 # haha 02.21.26 # say that their definition of a gb is 1000*1000*1000 02.21.34 # i've haven't got 300 gigs, but i've got quite a lot 02.21.38 # rather than 1024*1024*1024 02.21.59 # my biggest drive is 250gb, which is in my xbox 02.22.05 # I have over 1TB of hard disks. It's getting out of hand. 02.22.29 # get a dvd burner 02.22.31 # a lot of anime on those drives too 02.22.37 # I have one 02.22.43 # then use it darnit! 02.22.43 # * preglow The Orb - A Huge Evergrowing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraword (Orbital Dance Mix) 02.22.43 # :P 02.22.48 # i think i'll go to bed 02.22.58 # noo. 02.23.04 # Come to the darkside 02.23.06 # I do but I leave anime series on there because I a intend to watch them eventually lol 02.23.07 # haha 02.23.08 # We have cookies 02.23.09 # o.o 02.23.13 # i'm too tired to code properly 02.23.17 # i just end up staring at the screen 02.23.23 # xD 02.23.24 # ok ok 02.23.26 # to bed with you. 02.23.27 # night 02.23.41 # good night to you all 02.23.44 Quit preglow ("bam") 02.23.56 # this album is kinda relaxing. strings and electronica 02.24.15 # * HCl finds listening to duvet repeatedly soothing 02.24.25 # Lain is a head fuck 02.24.47 # you mean the series? 02.24.50 # i like it... 02.24.50 # yes 02.24.57 # i have a big lain wallscroll in my room 02.25.00 # its uber pretty 02.25.03 # Knights of the Eastern Templar :) 02.25.14 # http://titania.student.utwente.nl/IM000091.JPG 02.25.21 # A mind grid operating on the earths frequency etc etc 02.25.37 # lots of mad concepts in it 02.25.50 # * HCl shrugs. 02.26.17 # * DeadMan looks at his anime figures atop the TV set 02.26.37 # I got the cute Asuka and Rei cat and monkey girl figures 02.27.10 # Nemu-Chan in bikini from Da Capo is cute too. Plus my Popotan gashapon figures 02.27.30 # lol o.o 02.27.36 # you sound like an otaku.. hm..? 02.27.40 # sorta 02.27.45 # ah well. 02.27.51 # i'm not entirely free of blame either 02.28.02 # Popotan is a fanservice anime. Lots of boob and panty shots etc 02.28.06 # owning a shelf in my cabinet dedicated to manga drawing books, manga.. and sake.. 02.28.25 # i don't really like the perverted stuff. 02.28.26 # I have no manga whatsoever :( 02.28.30 # its shallow.. 02.28.32 # only scanned stuff 02.28.43 # i used to have none 02.28.46 # Like Love Hina dn Chobits etc 02.28.47 # then i went to an anime con 02.28.52 # and i spent 130 euro on manga 02.28.55 # and then i was broke 02.28.57 # *nodsnods* 02.28.58 # lol 02.29.28 # I really need to catchup on some manga series. I want to read Full Metal Alchemist as I hear it took a different direction from the anime 02.30.07 # i wanted vandread manga, but apparently, it doesn't exist.. 02.30.10 *** Alert Mode OFF 02.30.33 # The anime rocked up until about half way through when they splintered off from the anime as the anime had not written that far into the story by then 02.30.52 # I mean the manga rather 02.30.57 # had not...oh you know what I mean 02.31.24 # basically the manga is meant to be better 02.31.32 # mm 02.31.42 # they're almost always more detailed story wise 02.31.44 # anyways. 02.31.47 # its 2:30 am 02.31.50 # and i should go sleep 02.31.55 # night.. 02.31.59 # nn 02.39.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.39.52 Quit asdsd ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515") 02.46.30 Join YouCeyE [0] (foobar@vp089036.reshsg.uci.edu) 03.01.00 Quit cYmen ("zZz") 03.02.55 Join asdsd [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-34-155.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 03.05.03 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050309]") 03.07.09 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 03.10.44 Join YouCeyE [0] (foobar@vp089036.reshsg.uci.edu) 03.12.30 Quit midk_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.20.47 Quit gromit` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.20.47 Join gromit`` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 03.22.41 Quit asdsd ("—I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 3515") 03.31.31 Quit gromit`` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.31.31 Join gromit``` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 03.50.37 Quit gromit``` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.58.20 Quit skav () 04.00.07 Quit QT (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.05.14 Join QT [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.06.38 Join geoff_o [0] (geoff@HSE-Kitchener-ppp229629.sympatico.ca) 04.09.12 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.12.19 Join ze [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-195-66.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 04.19.47 Join gromit``` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 04.28.20 Part geoff_o ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") 04.39.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.12.10 Quit fuzzie (Remote closed the connection) 05.12.12 Join fuzzie [0] (~fuzzie@cl-109.lon-01.gb.sixxs.net) 05.15.39 Join SoulEata [0] (~faccess@pcp04474086pcs.brmngh01.mi.comcast.net) 05.21.00 # oh damn 05.21.02 # i have a ghost 05.22.49 Quit Soul_Eater (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 05.28.43 Join pike| [0] (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) 05.29.32 Quit zzz (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.32.53 Nick SoulEata is now known as Soul_Eater (~faccess@pcp04474086pcs.brmngh01.mi.comcast.net) 05.32.56 Quit Rick (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.37.15 Join Rick [0] (rick@wbar25.lax1-4.28.143.213.lax1.dsl-verizon.net) 05.45.48 Quit pike (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.03.56 Join zzz [0] (kekekek@CPE-147-10-21-132.vic.bigpond.net.au) 06.05.06 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-203-228.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 06.10.02 Quit DMJC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.16.27 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.16.28 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-203-228.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 06.17.56 # hmm 06.18.17 # my donation is still unaccepted 06.18.19 # :o 06.19.35 # hmmmm 06.19.44 # how are the feature requests sorted? 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07.59.25 # jflksgf 07.59.56 # "RECYCLER"? 08.05.08 # LinusN: Yes, it's 'RECYCLER' 08.05.09 Join csk [0] (~ckuethe@S0106000024c058cc.ed.shawcable.net) 08.05.40 # funny, an article on the web said it was "RECYCLED"... 08.06.01 # Maybe it differs between windows versions 08.06.10 # let's just hope that there isn't a band called Recycled 08.06.27 # There is another "windows" system directory called "System Volume Information", but I think there are no audio files stored there 08.06.29 # For WinXP, it would also be a good idea to leave out 'System Volume Information' as well (in case someone doesn't disable system file protection on this drive) 08.06.52 # The easiest solution would probably be to leave out 'hidden' directories 08.06.57 # those dirs have a special "system" flag, don't they? 08.08.10 # not sure it only shows hidden under attributes 08.08.22 # windows explorer shows... 08.08.26 # Windows XP likes to create "System Volume Information" shortly after you write to the disk 08.08.45 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.08.45 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-199-44.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 08.08.50 # even when system restore is turned off, I get SVI directories after deleting files... 08.09.00 # csk: You can disable system file protection for that drive, then it's not created 08.09.28 # LinusN: Both 'RECYCLER' and 'System Volume Information' have the 'hidden' and the 'system' flag set 08.11.46 # amiconn: i'll see check that it really is disabled, though i keep system restore disabled on all drives as a matter of policy 08.12.01 # sacrificial machine, restore doesn't win me anything 08.21.52 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.31.14 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-223.VIC.netspace.net.au) 08.38.02 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-193-30.dynamic.qsc.de) 08.39.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.39.36 Quit DMJC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.48.20 Quit _Lucretia_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.48.36 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-162-47-sa-nt.tpgi.com.au) 08.49.41 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-199-44.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 08.49.41 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.49.49 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-199-44.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 08.53.31 Quit MrMuffin () 08.55.29 Join ceebmoj [0] (~5189b144@labb.contactor.se) 08.57.04 # hi all 08.57.29 # morning 09.12.24 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 09.17.18 # Bagder: using "gcc" in makesrc.inc breaks on freebsd 09.17.38 # haha 09.17.58 # $(CC) should be possible now, right? 09.18.00 # well, with my new win32 compiler, we can switch back to $(CC) 09.18.03 # yes 09.18.05 # great 09.18.32 # is the sim executable with the new cross-win32 compiler? 09.18.40 # I don't know 09.18.56 # I can't test ;-) 09.20.07 # the list of bug reports is now refreshingly short! 09.20.09 # B-] 09.20.49 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@guestbook.cs.uni-sb.de) 09.21.37 # Bagder: Is the win32 sim build downloadable somewhere? 09.21.51 # hang on 09.23.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/auto/build-recordersimwin32/rockboxui 09.24.00 # I don't know why, but there's no rockbox.zip in there... 09.24.21 # How hard is it to build a win32-cross compiler? 09.24.50 # dwihno: I found pre-built Debian packages... ;-) 09.25.03 # thank god for that :-) 09.25.08 # took me 10 seconds to install 09.28.25 Quit Stu3 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.28.55 # If I don't know how to catch my own fish, I'll starve to death the day the fishermen go on strike :( 09.29.05 # ^ weird analogy ;) 09.29.21 # hehe 09.30.09 # http://dev.panopticsearch.com/cross-compile.html 09.31.13 # dwihno: you could consider buying a book about fishing and keep that in a secret stash until they very day they start striking - to continue the metaphores 09.32.28 # :) 09.35.11 # how did that discussion start? :-) 09.35.55 # I think dwihno longs for fish? ;-P 09.36.10 # common swedish problem 09.36.26 # fish craving 09.36.37 # * Bagder giggles 09.37.22 # I had fiskbullar yesterday :) 09.38.42 # * Bagder looks at .gnu.linkonce.this_module and scratches his head 09.41.20 # hm new stuff in 2.6 it is 09.45.07 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-199-44.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 09.45.07 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.45.24 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-199-44.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 10.04.51 Join [Tomas] [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 10.04.54 # <[Tomas]> hi 10.07.46 # hi 10.12.11 # hi 10.12.11 # ;P 10.12.17 # <[Tomas]> :) 10.12.26 # <[Tomas]> intresting news in the last few days? 10.12.40 # * [Tomas] was a little to busy... working... 10.13.05 # not really 10.14.08 # * LinusN has too little time for rockbox these days 10.14.14 # LinusN: howcome? 10.14.31 # work, Real Life(tm) 10.14.36 # tru 10.14.38 # +e 10.27.42 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 10.27.47 Join Seedy [0] (ben@192.114.41.133) 10.39.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.40.46 Quit gromit``` (Remote closed the connection) 10.40.55 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 10.54.56 Join Schnueff_ [0] (~mah@134.96.247.230) 10.57.33 Join sfly [0] (SuperFly@193.10.196.50) 10.58.03 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.02.43 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l06v-6-204.d1.club-internet.fr) 11.02.53 # hi noble people ! 11.04.40 Join Stu3 [0] (~Stu3@203-206-51-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) 11.09.12 Quit sfly ("Leaving") 11.12.15 Quit Schnueff (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.14.16 Join jyp [0] (~jp@222.199-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) 11.17.50 # lunch! 11.22.00 Quit ceebmoj ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.36.44 Quit Stu3 () 11.43.26 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 11.48.34 Join tomcore [0] (~redfox@pD9E2FC5A.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.48.44 # hi 11.50.50 # can someone build me this new firmware for iriver h1xx so i can use it? i have no machine here where i can compile it on my own 11.52.22 # it's not really much use unless you're developing atm 11.52.42 # it can't play music yet, and many of the features haven't been completely modified to work on the iriver 11.53.14 # hmm iknow .. i just wanted to try out if it really works ;) 11.54.32 # well, that's my point. it doesn't. that said, if you can get someone to provide you a safe, known working, ihp_120.hex, there should be nightly builds of rockbox for the iriver on the rockbox.org site 11.56.25 # ah okay understood ... so when you think would it be releaseable ? 11.56.36 # hard to say 11.56.45 # progress depends entirely on how much free time people have 11.58.06 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (~munkee@abyss2.demon.co.uk) 11.59.46 # yes, your right.. so if i can help in any case, please let me know ;) im a developer, but only web and windows languages 12.00.41 # "windows" languages? 12.00.59 # you can get a build environment that'll let you build rockbox on windows you know 12.01.01 # vb ;) 12.01.21 # how? 12.01.23 # where? :) 12.01.26 # cygwin. 12.01.43 # ah, thanks 12.01.51 # install a cygwin environment and include gcc with it. then download the cvs source to binutils and a very recent gcc source, and compile it. 12.01.56 # it's not exactly non-trival 12.02.05 # s/non-trivial/trivial/ 12.02.16 # i really should avoid double negatives :) 12.02.29 # ... not exactly not non-trival 12.02.30 # ;) 12.02.38 # but when you say it has no sense yes .. i will maybe wait ;) 12.02.45 # if you don't have a good handle on unix-based development, cygwin won't seem obvious to use 12.02.46 # heeh 12.02.55 # yes?yet 12.03.46 # hmm i am a little unix expirenced, but not very much 12.03.56 # i'll give it a try 12.04.47 # okay, well, basically, cygwin lets you download a unix-alike shell environment for windows machines. you can get all sorts of unix utilities to go with it, including gcc, wjhich you can use to build a version of gcc and binutils that supports compilation for the m68k target that can be used to build rockbox 12.07.33 # okay .. ill try that later ;) 12.18.20 # ashridah: isn't all that the stuff you don't have to do when you use bluechips prebuilt dev enviroment? 12.24.31 Quit Heidel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.31.42 # * [Tomas] is back 12.32.36 # <[Tomas]> I have a little question regarding iRiver hardware... 12.32.42 # <[Tomas]> Maybe somebody knows... 12.32.58 # <[Tomas]> Is it possible to use the cpu for some sound effects after decoding? 12.33.45 # <[Tomas]> So when a codec is fast enough to get 200%, is it possible to use the left over cpu power to do some extra sound effects? (like a compressor (the audio one, not data compression)) 12.34.13 # depending on how cpu intensive it is, adding filters is possible 12.34.19 # (will be) 12.34.31 # unless the core team decides it's not a needed feature 12.34.32 # <[Tomas]> ok... and how should I implement it? 12.34.46 # <[Tomas]> like DSP plugins for winamp? 12.34.54 # <[Tomas]> or is there an other interface? 12.35.18 # there is no interface yet 12.35.30 # <[Tomas]> oh ok 12.35.46 # I suggest you wait for the audio support, code something, show it, and then you'll see :) 12.36.25 # Lynx_: i have no idea 12.36.51 # dwihno: i'd assume memory bandwidth could be an issue too 12.37.16 # ashridah: ah, true 12.37.21 # <[Tomas]> hm.. 12.37.39 # ashridah: in theory, everything is possible until the opposite is proven :) 12.37.48 # <[Tomas]> And there were some things to watch when porting to m68k? 12.37.54 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 12.37.57 # <[Tomas]> I heard you can't use floats? 12.38.04 # yay, this was a GOOD chicken sallad 12.38.09 # <[Tomas]> and only C is allowed for rockbox? No c++? 12.38.11 # the units don't have a CPU 12.38.19 # no c++ 12.38.23 # FPU, I mean 12.38.27 # <[Tomas]> lol 12.38.31 # No CPU ;) 12.38.44 # <[Tomas]> I was looking at my screen... In a way of *what the hell??* 12.39.00 # <[Tomas]> so no floats allowed... only int and double? 12.39.08 # <[Tomas]> or double is wrong too? 12.39.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.40.16 # [Tomas]: double's a longer float 12.40.32 # <[Tomas]> yeah, but the , isn't floating on some unix types? 12.40.34 # well. 'more precise' depending 12.40.57 # the what isn't floating on some unix types? 12.41.06 # <[Tomas]> eh in english . 12.41.10 # <[Tomas]> in european system , 12.41.39 # i'm not sure i understand what you're trying to ask 12.42.34 # <[Tomas]> well... afaik there was a type wich can hold numbers like 4,25 (like 4 1/4) and did that by having a fixed split point? so 4 bits before and 4 bits after the , 12.42.47 # <[Tomas]> can iRiver do that too? 12.43.26 # of course. 12.43.49 # but those kinds of things aren't driven by features of the cpu, beyond the normal instruction set 12.44.15 # <[Tomas]> ok, so I can convert floats to that? (If someone can tell me what the type was called) 12.44.27 # not perfectly no 12.44.33 # since floats are much more precise 12.44.48 # whatever floats your boat? :) 12.44.57 # it's not a type, per se 12.45.14 # it's just a method for dealing with floating point numbers in a developer-defined way 12.45.31 # but storing the actual data in standard int data types 12.45.43 # afaik it's not built into the c language 12.45.56 # <[Tomas]> ok, then it was implemented in a header or something of the program we used there... 12.45.58 # which is where it'd be defined, not as a part of unix, which doesn't CARE what language it uses, more or less 12.46.01 Quit jyp ("poof!") 12.47.15 # that's entirely possible 12.47.31 # to make it easy to deal with, you'd probably develop macros to do it in a predefine and relatively fast way 12.47.47 # and functions and whatnot 12.47.48 # <[Tomas]> yeah, I thinks that's what they used there 12.47.58 # <[Tomas]> -s 12.47.59 # okay, that's not a unix thing 12.48.35 # <[Tomas]> so do something like this: int a = 3 / 4; int b = 3 % 4 12.48.41 # <[Tomas]> and i would have a number a,b 12.49.13 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 12.49.44 # that's just the modulus operator 12.49.53 # that gives you the remainder 12.50.23 # <[Tomas]> yeah, that's what I want isn't it? 12.50.35 # <[Tomas]> oh wait... 12.50.49 # <[Tomas]> int a = 3 / 4; int b = 1000 * (3 % 4) 12.50.54 # <[Tomas]> a would be 0 12.50.57 # <[Tomas]> and b = 750 12.51.12 # <[Tomas]> a,b = 0,750 and that's what i wanted... 12.51.55 # <[Tomas]> and for more precision you should rais the 1000 to 1000000 or something.. 12.52.02 # <[Tomas]> *raise 12.54.10 # that's one method, sure. 13.05.05 Join Quelsaruk [0] (~kvirc@80.103.133.129) 13.05.28 # morning 13.05.34 Quit Rick (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.17.35 Join mirak [0] (~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-24-247.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.19.02 # mrf 13.19.03 # hello 13.21.23 Join Patr3ck_ [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECFE2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.26.06 Quit Patr3ck (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 13.30.31 Quit Quelsaruk ("thanks to winXP i've lost 1 week of work") 13.37.32 # hi 13.44.00 Quit preglow (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13.44.00 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 13.45.47 # <[Tomas]> netsplit? 13.46.15 Quit tomcore (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 13.46.33 # yeah 13.50.30 # <[Tomas]> another question... haven't tried it... Is it possible to use a plugin (like a game) while playing (mp3) audio? 13.51.03 # <[Tomas]> Or if it isn't on archos, will it possibly be possible on iRiver? 13.51.20 # it is possible, yes 13.51.30 # it is the normal behavior 13.52.10 # <[Tomas]> Cool, so play something like rockboy and listen to music the same time? 13.52.39 # rockboy might be the exception 13.53.03 # <[Tomas]> yeah, I guess it's kind of cpu intensive? 13.53.07 # yeah 13.53.23 # besides, rockbox will emulate the gameboy sound as well 13.53.35 # <[Tomas]> oh... I hate the gameboy music... 13.53.41 # :-) 13.54.23 # <[Tomas]> But how optimized is rockboy? 13.57.53 # not enough yet 13.57.53 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 13.57.53 NJoin preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 13.58.48 Join Heidel [0] (~h@pD953079F.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.58.58 # and it's unlikely to progress to the point where it can work sufficiently quickly and not use too much memory that decoding other audio streams won't be affected 13.59.21 Quit preglow (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.01.19 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 14.02.03 Quit Schee4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.02.38 Join Schee4 [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-10-146.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.04.37 Quit DMJC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.14.48 Join webguest28 [0] (~c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 14.32.38 Quit webguest28 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 14.39.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.41.56 Quit ashridah ("sleep") 14.42.08 Part LinusN 14.42.15 Join jyp [0] (~jp@222.199-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) 14.51.05 Join IDCDragon [0] (~5087f337@labb.contactor.se) 14.51.25 # hi out there 14.51.45 # yo 14.51.59 # amiconn: do you read? 14.52.47 # I'm "reporting" live from CeBIT 14.53.05 # at a rockbox booth? :) 14.53.11 # haha 14.53.38 # but I went around with 5 guys from Archos 14.53.56 # :-) 14.54.05 # to the Micronas booth, for example 14.54.26 # getting things moving for the wav codec 14.54.37 # looks pretty good now 14.54.42 # way to go! 14.55.12 # I'm at a public terminal now 14.56.31 # maybe I'll check by later 14.56.47 # cu 14.57.05 # ah, one more: 14.57.17 # I've been at iriver, too 14.57.38 # learned anything cool? 14.57.41 # they're not showing the iHP1x0 any more 14.57.42 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@83.69.98.157) 14.57.46 # hehe 14.57.58 # only the 3x0 is still in the flyer 14.58.13 # and on display 14.58.41 # besides that, plenty of player devices everywhere 14.58.55 # I figure 14.58.58 # from perhaps 100 far east companies 14.58.59 # there are many brands these days 14.59.10 # many with video, too 14.59.40 # I was close to ask around for "openess" 14.59.56 # but the sales guys most likely have no clue 15.00.07 # so you didn't see any that advertised openness? 15.00.29 # did anybody ever? 15.00.33 # well, they're not very likely to show discontinued devices 15.00.34 # only neuros 15.00.45 Nick pike| is now known as pike (pike@c83-249-120-49.bredband.comhem.se) 15.00.46 # the bigger iriver runs linux 15.00.51 # pmp? 15.01.03 # something like that 15.01.07 # the one that shows xvids and stuff? 15.01.09 # but it's big 15.01.39 # it's not open to own applications 15.01.46 # not surprised 15.01.56 # the Archos 500 does, and looks a lot better 15.02.32 # I guess neuros is not here 15.03.48 # any Swedes around ? 15.03.53 # pike: yes 15.03.57 # http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/it/story/0,2789,615494,00.html 15.04.04 # http://isp.bahnhof.se/nyheter/Bahnhof_pressmeddelande.pdf 15.04.09 # omfg.. gestapo 15.04.23 # indeed 15.04.24 # not me ;-) 15.04.36 # c u later 15.04.53 Quit IDCDragon ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.05.01 # do this to your own isp... 15.09.15 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 15.15.42 Join Terminal-Velocit [0] (~tony@ipa27.3.tellas.gr) 15.36.56 Quit R3nTiL () 15.40.29 Join Rick [0] (rick@wbar25.lax1-4.28.143.213.lax1.dsl-verizon.net) 15.44.57 Join dwihno_ [0] (~dw@81.8.224.89) 15.45.28 Quit dwihno (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.46.33 Nick dwihno_ is now known as dwihno (~dw@81.8.224.89) 15.52.16 Quit Patr3ck_ () 16.14.36 Join webguest93 [0] (~51982775@labb.contactor.se) 16.15.10 # gah. 16.15.13 # anyone around? 16.15.23 # yes 16.15.30 # i'm in need of a linux 2.6 kernel with builtin xfs support for either generic x86 or amd 16.15.46 # :| 16.16.33 # HCl: so build one, it is fairly easy 16.16.50 # Bagder: i'm on windows. 16.16.53 # thats the whole point. 16.16.59 # i can't access my linux system. 16.17.01 # ouch 16.17.05 # I'm on caffeine - seems like you're hooked on the bad stuff ;) 16.17.13 # i need to use colinux to access it 16.17.20 # but colinux doesn't support xfs by default -.-;; 16.17.41 # Sp, what do you people do ? 16.17.50 # DO you build the firmware ? 16.18.21 # yes we do 16.18.33 # Lovely Jubly 16.18.57 # Hows the sound coming along on the Iriver ? 16.19.08 # slow 16.19.33 # Brew it slowly like grolsh, no need for a rush 16.20.38 Quit csk (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.22.16 # Ok im off 16.22.25 # Keep doin what your doin, i like it 16.22.32 Quit webguest93 ("CGI:IRC") 16.24.23 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-13.dynamic.qsc.de) 16.27.29 Quit Schnueff_ ("leaving") 16.30.40 Join Tomas2 [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 16.31.44 # * HCl suddenly realizes he has a linux server. 16.31.49 # i'm not quite awake.. yet.. obviously. 16.32.15 # http://www.plsthx.com/disp.php?type=p&id=108 a coder's dream... 16.32.40 Quit [Tomas] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.25 # don't do that, makes me want to brew my own again 16.34.24 # heh 16.34.51 Quit preglow ("rebot") 16.37.43 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 16.38.39 # when you quited i thought you were going to brew your own beer:P 16.39.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.40.35 # haha 16.40.46 # i probably would try, if i had the space for it 16.41.16 # i'm a certified beer fanatic 16.42.32 Join sofaSpud [0] (~john@200.119.32.101) 16.43.05 Join Twz [0] (sadf@85.99.212.188) 16.43.07 # www.otomotivshow.com WEBSITE HOSTING RESELLER 16.43.11 # preglow if u are a beer fna u know that http://www.virtualbartender.beer.com/beer_usa.htm 16.43.15 Quit Twz (K-lined) 16.43.20 # ouch 16.44.54 # haven't got flash in linux, it seems 16.44.55 # argh 16.46.19 # :( 16.47.06 # really funny, u give orders to a virtual beer barmaid 16.48.02 # working on it now 16.48.30 # :p 16.53.12 # bah, of course, macromedia hasn't ported it to amd64 yet 16.53.40 Join geoff_o [0] (geoff@HSE-Kitchener-ppp231387.sympatico.ca) 16.54.01 # god. 16.54.07 # linux can be so utterly crappy to set up right 16.54.29 # ghehe 16.54.38 # i give up. 16.54.39 # That's a user error... not a system error :P 16.54.42 # on what? 16.54.46 # Need help? 16.54.53 # preglow: trying to get colinux to access my xfs linux filesystem 16.55.00 # in order to recompile the kernel and re-run lilo 16.55.22 # because turning on the riva framebuffer made it not accept any keyboard input anymore 16.55.29 # ahah 16.55.29 # and now i can't access it 16.55.38 # lilo? this is 2005 16.55.43 # yes, grub is shit. 16.55.51 # i haven't had it work properly once :/ 16.55.55 # Terminal-Velocit: you should use lilo just once :P 16.55.56 # where lilo *always* works fine 16.55.58 # never reboot linux... 16.56.34 # always keep a backup kernel in your lilo.conf 16.56.39 # HCl: what distro is on the xfs filesystem? 16.56.40 # mayve there is parameter to turn FB off so you can boot? 16.56.49 # dwihno: yea, i used to do that. i was lazy this time. 16.56.58 # s/parameter/a parameter/ 16.56.59 # i didn't think enabling framebuffer console would render it useless 16.57.07 # let alone think that its impossible to turn it off 16.57.13 # Terminal-Velocit: nope. 16.57.17 # well yeah it does if you use any driver except the VESA one:P 16.57.19 # Tomas2: debian/ubuntu mix 16.57.33 # still have the installation floppy's/cd's > 16.57.44 # btw, rockboy was really nice on my recorder-20! 16.57.45 # you can boot from them... 16.57.58 # and get into rescue mode 16.58.22 # then just install a standard kernel from a deb file 16.58.30 # and run lilo.. 16.58.47 # and from that one rebuild your original without the framebuffer enabled.. 16.59.29 # i don't have an install cd at the moment. 16.59.32 # thats why i was trying colinux 17.02.29 # http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/ 17.02.46 # (you are dutch too right? otherwise change the nl..) 17.03.05 # you need rescue.bin and maybe root.bin 17.03.54 # and at the bootprompt type this: rescue root=/dev/hdaX 3 17.04.06 # where X is a partition... and 3 is the runlevel it should boot to 17.06.10 # HCl: you use qemu to acces it 17.06.19 # HCl: you can use 17.06.59 # whats qemu? 17.07.10 # "QEMU is a generic and open source processor emulator which achieves a good emulation speed by using dynamic translation." 17.07.22 # I was thinking the same question ;) 17.08.16 # eh. 17.08.25 # colinux seems much better than something vmware like. 17.08.29 # i just need a working kernel. 17.08.33 # but i'm tired of it. 17.08.44 # yeah, and the floppy's I linked have a debian kernel ;) 17.08.46 # linux is crap to set up. its only nice once it works properly 17.08.54 # do they have xfs? 17.09.04 # cause a kernel is no use to me without xfs 17.09.13 # i might even have to have a special colinux kernel 17.09.27 # not sure of xfs... is debian supporting it? 17.09.33 # i don't know? 17.09.35 # its a kernel feature 17.09.40 # i don't use stock kernels 17.10.21 # well... download the drivers disks with it 17.10.21 # Debian probably supports xfs as a module.. 17.10.25 Join mecraw [0] (fwuser@69.2.235.2) 17.10.30 # then you can load the module from a driver disk 17.10.33 # tomas, that won't work. 17.10.36 # i need a filesystem 17.10.39 # in order to load modules. 17.10.40 # HCl: are you just looking for a Live-Linux distribution that supports XFS? 17.10.41 # i don't have a filesystem. 17.10.45 # cause my filesystem is xfs 17.10.50 # That could pose a challange. 17.10.50 # no, boot from the floppy's 17.10.54 # then load module from floppy's 17.10.56 # geoff_o: no, a colinux kernel 17.10.59 # i don't have a floppy 17.11.01 # nor a floppydrive 17.11.02 # and then mount your real filesystem 17.11.04 # lol 17.11.07 # then write it to a cd? 17.11.11 # there is also a cd image.. 17.11.17 # i don't have writable cds nere, otherwise i could burn knoppic 17.11.18 # Ok.. I'm missing something.. what's colinux? (User-mode linux?) 17.11.18 # knoppix 17.11.22 # i have limited resources 17.11.24 # www.colinux.org 17.11.28 # cooperative linux 17.11.46 # What OS[s] are you running right now? 17.11.50 # windows. 17.11.54 # if i had linux i wouldn't have a problem 17.11.55 # here 17.11.55 # http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/ 17.11.56 # obviously 17.11.59 # there is a cd image 17.12.05 # i don't have a writable cd. 17.12.07 # like i said earlier. 17.12.15 # i have all those things at home 17.12.15 # hm... then you have a problem 17.12.16 # but not here. 17.12.21 # thats why i need to use colinux. 17.12.28 # Which Windows? (NT-based or Dos-Based?) 17.12.32 # xp. 17.12.40 # it doesn't matter whether its dos based or not.. 17.13.04 # i'm gonna try colinux with its provided rootfs, see if i can start that then mount xfs 17.13.06 # HCl: you don't have a disk drive or writable cd's? you're asking for it 17.13.14 # preglow: i'm visiting somebody! 17.13.15 # "DOS isn't an operating system, but it makes an adaquate boot loader" 17.13.20 # how can you expect me to take writable cds everywhere i go 17.13.32 # i do expect you to carry around knoppix :P 17.14.05 # at least colinux is at least semi-userfriendly 17.14.11 # downloading a colinux rootfs.... 17.14.23 # rather inefficient, but it should do. blergh. 17.15.08 # Or at least "damn small linux".. it fits in your wallet for ****'s sake! 17.15.43 Join XShocK [0] (~cddef002@labb.contactor.se) 17.16.20 # usb pen or something? 17.16.30 # tf 17.16.32 # new firmware 17.17.07 # still no gapless, surprise, surprise 17.17.39 # * geoff_o has been starting flamewars with total strangers since 1979. The first challenge was inventing the Internets. 17.24.06 # new firmware for what? 17.24.10 # archos? 17.24.53 # h1290 17.24.54 # h120 <- 17.25.46 # where is that new firmware? i see only 1.63 17.25.49 # yeah 17.25.51 # me too 17.27.21 # misticriver 17.28.57 # oh I see... 17.29.19 # only korean so far? 17.29.34 # whats new? 17.29.46 # Firmware v1.65 that enhances the H100 series' recording function is released. 17.30.02 # they only say something about the recording function... 17.30.05 # seems to only be fixes for recording to bring it upto par with h3xx series 17.30.34 # fm recording? 17.30.42 # http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=15497 17.30.48 # there is a list 17.30.48 # no fm rec 17.31.00 # I'll wait for rockbox 17.31.06 # yup. 17.31.15 # i don't care how crappy fm recording will sound 17.31.30 # if its possible in hardware, we should make it possible 17.32.46 # if it's possible it should be done ? 17.33.01 # as regards to fm recording, yes o.o 17.34.30 # geoff_o: how do i get 'damn small linux' on an usb stick? :) 17.37.57 Quit XShocK ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.38.08 # igh. 17.38.15 # colinux works, but cause of the virtual devices, lilo won't run 17.38.20 # I don't know.. I usually just burn it on those mini-cds 17.38.31 # (The business-card sized ones.) 17.39.34 # ghehe... I had knoppix and winPE on my iRiver for a long time... 17.39.42 # until I got a bigger usb stick.. 17.40.02 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.41.07 # hmm, i just can't figure out how to get the image onto a usb stick under windows...rawrite won't work with that 17.42.11 # Tomas2: winPE boots off a usb harddisk? 17.42.28 # yes, everythings boot's of a usb harddisk if you enable emulation 17.42.30 # You mean so it boots? You need some help from BIOS.. which is why it's easier to use a CD-ROM. I found knoppix + usb stick to be a pretty good tag-team. 17.43.19 # yeah, but in my office we have 300 to 400 the same pc's... 17.43.22 # but booting off usb is much cooler ;). And i always wanted to try that with my new pc... 17.43.24 # all booting from usb... 17.43.43 # so it wasn't a problem to boot from iRiver, before we got a big usb stick 17.44.06 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-45-226.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.44.07 # Tomas2: how do you have install winPE to have it boot? 17.44.12 # Hi 17.44.56 # Some helpdesk guy did it for me... but afaik it's just extracting the iso and copying the mbr of the floppy boot image inside 17.45.57 # ok... 17.47.46 Nick Terminal-Velocit is now known as tvelocity[away] (~tony@ipa27.3.tellas.gr) 17.54.27 Quit Tang ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041108]") 17.56.00 # Lynx_: you can use Damn Small Linux to do that 17.56.10 # it fit's in 60mo 17.56.49 # mirak: how do i install that on a usb stick? can't find anything on the webpage 17.57.03 # hum 17.57.13 # I don't remember but there should info on this there 17.58.40 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 18.00.01 # Lynx_: http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=11;t=3613 18.00.10 # always never forget the forums 18.00.12 # :) 18.01.08 Join DrRick [0] (DrRick@81-86-87-203.dsl.pipex.com) 18.03.42 # mirak: that will take too long ;) 18.04.25 Join cYmen_ [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 18.05.05 Quit cYmen (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.05.21 # Lynx_: you got to know what you want :) 18.05.51 # mirak: i found a featherlinux/syslinux.exe manual that sounds better ;) 18.08.58 # Lynx_: well I think I installed it in less steps than that 18.09.09 # Lynx_: in fact I think the steps are : 18.09.17 # boot into damn small linux 18.09.44 # copy the content of the damn small linux iso into the usb key 18.09.58 # and check lilo.conf 18.10.06 # but then i have to burn dsl first, reboot... 18.10.09 # and run lilo with the good config 18.10.20 # no 18.10.26 # you can mount the iso 18.10.36 # if you are on windows with daemon tools 18.10.40 # or with mount on linux 18.10.49 # mirak: to boot dsl i can't mount it 18.10.56 # what ? 18.11.02 # oh 18.11.04 # hum 18.11.17 # well I think you need linux in all case, at least to install the bootloader 18.11.23 # the other version is just unpack featherlinux to usb stick, run syslinux, done 18.11.25 # you could do that from a knoppix 18.11.31 # ok 18.11.33 # :) 18.11.40 # it seems simpler 18.11.47 # if only featherlinux would donload faster i'd be done already ;) 18.11.57 # s/don/down/ 18.12.18 Join mrmags [0] (~stryfe@pool-70-111-14-152.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 18.12.35 # if I had a bigger usb key I wwould have let damn small linux on it 18.12.50 # anyway if you have a iRiver 18.13.02 # you can install damn small linux on it 18.13.08 # or even a knoppix 18.13.15 # there is really enough space to do that 18.13.22 # and then boot a PC from it 18.13.53 # how did you partition to make that work? 18.13.58 # i have some usb harddrives, those should work even better. and they have 200 gigs available ;) 18.21.04 # mrmags: don't know 18.21.15 # mrmags: maybe it would not work with the normal firmware 18.26.35 Quit Lynx_ (" trying it now") 18.27.59 # As I said.. I had knoppix and winPE on iriver 18.28.29 # with the original firmware... it just ignores the extra files in the root dir.. 18.29.15 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-159-252.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 18.34.08 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 18.35.43 Join Lynx_ [0] (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 18.39.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.46.10 # hmm, it worked but didn't get past the knopppix boot menu... 18.48.18 Quit DrRick () 18.49.08 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 18.49.11 Join El_Gringo [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-165-126.dsl.bezeqint.net) 18.49.16 # Hi 18.49.35 Part fuzzie 18.49.51 # I've a little problem in building the cross compiler m68k 18.49.57 Quit bobTHC ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 18.49.58 # someone could help I ? 18.50.50 # when I compile gcc-core-3.4.3, I have an error 18.51.22 # the build / install of the new binutils is ok (the path too) 18.52.37 # the error messages are : 18.52.45 # Assembler messages: 18.52.55 # Error: operands mismatch -- statement 'fmovem.l%fpcr,%d1' ignored 18.52.58 # Error: operands mismatch -- statement 'fmovem.l%fpcr,%d1' ignored 18.53.01 # make[2]: *** [libgcc/m68040/_fixunsdfsi.o] Error 1 18.53.04 # make[1]: *** [stmp-multilib] error 2 18.53.08 # make: *** [all-gcc] error 2 18.54.20 Nick tvelocity[away] is now known as Terminal-Velocit (~tony@ipa27.3.tellas.gr) 18.57.15 Part geoff_o ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") 18.59.47 Join webguest50 [0] (~d444e37f@labb.contactor.se) 19.01.51 # El_Gringo: had the same problem 19.02.35 # bwahaha 19.02.52 # ha 19.03.26 # El_gringo: you need to edit libgcc.mk and remove all the lines with the processors higher than m5407 19.03.51 # El_Gringo: there is probably a more ellegant way, but it worked for me 19.12.40 # preglow: r u there? 19.13.59 # jyp: r u there? 19.14.19 Quit webguest50 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.14.59 Join rjamorim [0] (me@201.14.56.117) 19.17.58 # amiconn: I'm here 19.18.27 # It seems you introduced a bug in libmad:layer3.c. It even segfaults on the simulator now 19.18.52 # Looking at line 856, it seems you meant 3L instead of 3I 19.19.27 # Note that it should make no difference on your targets 19.19.50 # Funny enough the compiler doesn't complain about '3I' 19.20.08 # Why should it? 19.20.12 Quit rjamorim ("On the turning away...") 19.20.58 # jyp: Erm, because it doesn't know how to handle an 'I' (note: capital letter i ) after a number? 19.21.45 Join Guest8918091 [0] (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 19.21.51 # preglow: i'm here 19.21.54 # yes 19.21.59 # amiconn: i'm here... 19.22.09 # Haha, ok 19.22.14 # ohh, yes 19.22.29 # jyp'll handle that, i haven't built rockbox in a couple of days now :/ 19.23.04 # Maybe we should check the ISO standard; 19.23.15 # but I don't see why "I" shouldn't be accepted 19.23.53 # Hmm. What should 'I' mean after all? 19.23.58 # 'int' 19.24.13 # I added that as a gcc bug workaround 19.24.39 # Hmm. 19.25.45 # jyp: did you make libmad work on gmini? 19.26.02 # Didn't know that this is possible, and my editor agrees with me. Anyway, both with and without I it segfaults in layer3.c, line 851 19.26.07 # I'm working on it 19.26.42 Quit sofaSpud ("There are lies, damn lies, and MS facts") 19.27.07 # When I do this under gdb control, 'print sfbi' says sfbi = 2859, which is clearly out of range for subscripting 'exponents' 19.27.32 # The total linecount of my changes it 5 or 6 lines perhaps 19.27.51 # i expect you'll have to hack extensively for it to work 19.27.55 # so maybe you can review them? 19.28.09 # preglow: why so? 19.28.36 # Till now I've hit only compiler bugs, not problems in the libmad code. 19.28.52 # compiler bugs are the reason for moving indexes out of expressions? 19.28.57 # yes 19.28.59 # nasty 19.29.07 # tell me about it! 19.29.22 # I hope gcc 4 will fix that 19.29.38 # gcc 4 won't be out for a while 19.29.49 # i think they're shooting for april 19.29.57 # hmm, which isn't that far from now, i see 19.29.58 # :P 19.30.04 # one month I can bear to wait 19.30.14 # yup 19.31.05 # amiconn: or perhaps try reverting my changes altogether and see if it solves the problem 19.31.57 # Perhaps it was there before... only mpa2wav gave strange effects sometimes 19.32.01 Quit El_Gringo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.1/20050226]") 19.32.44 # sometimes? 19.34.10 Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) 19.34.41 # Yes, sometimes. When I try to convert an .mp3 with it, sometimes the plugin doesn't load correctly, and on a second try it does 19.35.24 # Then it converts the .mp3 most of the time, and sometimes hangs the simulator at the end, but not always 19.35.55 # nasty ;) 19.36.45 # i've never seen this on the actual device 19.36.46 # Now it behaves different. It always crashes after decoding the first frame (nothing saved) 19.40.53 # I'm pretty confident my changes are safe 19.41.20 # But you can check them here: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/codecs/libmad/layer12.c.diff?r1=1.1&r2=1.2 19.41.35 # and there: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/codecs/libmad/layer3.c.diff?r1=1.4&r2=1.5 19.42.28 # Yes, I checked them, and I have no explanation for this behaviour.... 19.43.08 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 19.43.27 # I thought this may have caused the problems, but it doesn't, sorry. On the other hand, this behaviour is new... 19.43.48 # np 19.44.57 # I have made a standalone application to test libmad on gmini; 19.45.24 # I hit the complier bug quite soon (1st frame) 19.46.14 # but apart from that I had to fiddle with the buffer sizes... I think it's not your problem; but who knows. 19.51.09 # h320 is on the way 19.51.15 # my way 19.51.17 # :D 19.54.13 Join flipside [0] (~a053200e@labb.contactor.se) 19.55.17 Quit flipside (Client Quit) 20.22.44 # jyp: Now that is strange: I simply replaced layer3.c with version 1.4 (before your changes), compiled the sim again - and it works!(at least as before) 20.23.03 # However, I don't get what is wrong with your changes... 20.24.47 Join Lmcmann [0] (~88010121@labb.contactor.se) 20.34.07 # preglow: It turns out that I was wrong about the .icode/.idata presence in the simulators 20.34.25 # This was the problem for the intermittent failure of mpa2wav. 20.34.46 Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.35.12 # I'll submit a fix for that (using the same #define mechanism as rockboy) 20.35.59 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 20.36.04 Quit Stryke` (Remote closed the connection) 20.38.36 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 20.38.39 # amiconn: does the sims have a linker script? 20.38.47 # nope 20.39.03 # ahh, then it'll probably just be easier to make a couple of ICODE and IDATA macros 20.39.12 # Yes, that's what I did 20.39.15 # excellent 20.39.20 # put them some place everything can see them 20.39.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.39.34 # (or rather, copied from rockboy/rockmacros.h with a slight correction 20.39.36 # ) 20.40.05 # I still don't get why jyp's change 20.40.12 # breaks libmad tho 20.40.42 # Would be very interesting whether the same thing happens on iriver target 20.41.10 # i'm in no position to test right now, unfortunately 20.41.59 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 20.54.01 Quit Lmcmann (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.12.19 # wouldn't it be better to put those defines a place that's a bit more visible to all of rockbox than xxx2wav.h? 21.12.34 # the codecs shouldn't need to include that 21.12.59 # They need to... libmad uses .idata in synth.c 21.13.17 # I put it both in xxx2wav.h and codec.h 21.14.23 # so i see 21.30.43 # jyp: The 'I' is indeed the problem 21.30.59 # Without it, it works perfectly in the simulator 21.31.56 # I didn't find anything mentioning the 'I' as a valid suffix, only 'U', 'L' and 'UL' for integer values 21.32.39 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 21.34.33 # jyp: could you try if it helps to cast the '3' to an int? 21.35.11 # have you had a look at what the assembler looks like with the I ? 21.35.35 # i've never seen an I myself 21.36.50 # No, I didn't have a look. Perhaps I should, but then this is ugly x86... 21.38.56 # Hmm, how do I do this? Didn't you mention that objcopy is able to disassemble? 21.39.04 # objdump -d 21.39.08 Quit edx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.39.12 # but it's better to have gcc generate asm 21.39.16 # this you do with -S 21.40.19 # ...and I need to get all the defined symbols right 21.46.00 # Urgs, I forgot *how* ugly x86 asm is.... 21.46.13 # However, I found the differing spot 21.46.13 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 21.46.32 # Now I "only" need to understand it... 21.49.01 # feel free to paste the relevant section 21.49.10 # i used to know x86 asm pretty well 21.50.05 # How many lines before/ after do you think are necessary? 21.50.20 # The simple 'I' seems to add 3 x86 instructions 21.50.59 # ughh. 21.51.01 # hello. 21.51.12 # i don't suppose any of you have experience with 802.1x under linux? 21.52.14 # not sure HCl .... is it like vlan? 21.52.24 # preglow: This is the relevant part without 'I' (working): 21.52.25 # 982: 81 7d f0 3f 02 00 00 cmpl $0x23f,0xfffffff0(%ebp) 21.52.26 # 989: 0f 87 3e ff ff ff ja 8cd <_III_exponents+0x6d> 21.52.26 DBUG Enqueued KICK amiconn 21.52.26 # 98f: 90 nop 21.52.26 # 990: 8b 75 e0 mov 0xffffffe0(%ebp),%esi 21.52.26 *** Alert Mode level 1 21.52.26 # 993: 0f b6 44 37 12 movzbl 0x12(%edi,%esi,1),%eax 21.52.27 *** Alert Mode level 2 21.52.27 # 998: 88 d9 mov %bl,%cl 21.52.29 # 99a: d3 e0 shl %cl,%eax 21.52.32 # no 21.52.36 # And this is the buggy part: 21.52.49 # 982: 81 7d f0 3f 02 00 00 cmpl $0x23f,0xfffffff0(%ebp) 21.52.49 # 989: 0f 87 3e ff ff ff ja 8cd <_III_exponents+0x6d> 21.52.49 # 98f: 8b 35 b8 87 00 00 mov 0x87b8,%esi 21.52.49 *** Alert Mode level 3 21.52.49 # 995: 89 75 dc mov %esi,0xffffffdc(%ebp) 21.52.50 *** Alert Mode level 4 21.52.50 # 998: 90 nop 21.52.50 *** Alert Mode level 5 21.52.50 # 999: 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 lea 0x0(%esi),%esi 21.52.52 # 9a0: 8b 4d e0 mov 0xffffffe0(%ebp),%ecx 21.52.54 # 9a3: 0f b6 44 0f 12 movzbl 0x12(%edi,%ecx,1),%eax 21.52.56 # 9a8: 88 d9 mov %bl,%cl 21.52.58 # 9aa: d3 e0 shl %cl,%eax 21.57.07 # i love the nop 21.59.53 # i don't get it 22.02.04 # i can't imagine why an extra I should result in that 22.02.52 *** Alert Mode OFF 22.03.42 # Yeah... but it does. 22.04.03 # I'd really like to find some material describing the effect of the 'I' 22.05.51 # In fact there are more changes further throughout the code.... most probably too long to paste here 22.08.14 # but i can test it on target now 22.08.31 # after i clean out all these bloody new cvs conflicts 22.09.04 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050309]") 22.09.31 # Would be very interesting to compare the coldfire asm with and without 'I' 22.11.04 # it works poorly 22.11.12 # entire unit hangs 22.11.34 # That's with the 'I'? 22.11.38 # yes 22.11.43 # what changes do you need to have it work? 22.11.44 # Ah. 22.11.53 # Just remove the 'I' 22.12.15 # With 'I', the simulator segfaults (both win32 and x11) 22.12.53 # It tries to access the exponents[] array with a very high index, way out of bounds... 22.13.09 # works like a charm without I 22.13.17 # i'll have a look at the assembly 22.16.30 Part mrmags 22.20.07 # no one seems to know what I means 22.20.14 # so i think it's same to assume there's no such thing 22.22.16 # ahhh 22.22.35 # i believe I is equivalent to i, which is the c99 complex constant 22.22.40 # no wonder it blows up 22.22.46 # If there were is such thing, then there are 3 questions instead: (1) why did jyp introduce it? (2) why does it produce no warning/error? (3) why does it produce additional/different code? 22.23.07 # well, a complex int is two ordinary ints in a struct like thing, so no wonder 22.23.16 # jyp thought I was an L like thing 22.23.23 Join webguest66 [0] (~53712ba9@labb.contactor.se) 22.23.26 # as for no warning/error, we're talking about gcc here 22.23.27 # it's strange 22.23.50 # I don't think so.... 22.23.53 # [19:25:55] Hmm. What should 'I' mean after all? 22.23.54 # [19:26:00] 'int' 22.23.54 # [19:26:16] I added that as a gcc bug workaround 22.23.59 # ahh 22.24.06 # but it's not a particularily good workaround, is it :P 22.24.09 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 22.24.09 # * preglow prods jyp 22.24.20 # But obviously it doesn't simply mean 'int'... 22.25.44 # amiconn: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.3/gcc/Complex.html#Complex 22.26.22 # Just looking at that, slightly different url... 22.26.37 # However, we don't include complex.h for sure 22.27.10 # preglow: I told you to check my commit ;) 22.27.50 Quit webguest66 (Client Quit) 22.28.24 # http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/glibc/libc_420.html 22.29.11 # I'll see how I could make my gcc swallow the 3... 22.29.21 # (int)3 ? 22.29.52 # layer3.c:878: internal compiler error: in simplify_unary_operation, at simplify-rtx.c:563 22.29.57 # Or better: fix gcc ;) 22.30.15 # Unfortunately this is in the machine independant code 22.30.47 # huh? Hmm, why this works in other gcc's? Anyway, you could try to swap the operands 22.31.28 # Because word size is different 22.32.40 # Hmm, so it's not completely machine independent. My guess is that since most machines are 32 bit (or larger) today, 16 bit support isn't that well tested. 22.34.19 Join zaknafein [0] (~tunturibi@ool-435607cb.dyn.optonline.net) 22.34.24 # hey 22.35.37 # anyone around? 22.35.48 # hi 22.36.40 # * Bagder counts 53 people 22.36.56 # * amiconn spots Bagder 22.37.05 # i meant like here as in at keyboard 22.37.05 # ooops ;-) 22.37.06 # anyway 22.37.29 # does anyone know if anyone makes a firmware mod for the archos jukebox multimedia 20 22.37.41 # i cant find one anywhere 22.37.57 # Bagder: Your win32 executable runs just fine. However, it is 163 KB (>10 %) larger than what cygwin gcc produces 22.38.04 # zaknafein: http://linav.free.fr/ 22.38.15 # ah, cool 22.38.28 # not that it matters much 22.38.40 # thanks badge 22.38.42 # r 22.38.47 # Bagder: I could try the plugins as well, if you could make up a zip package 22.39.08 # Badger: any expreience with it? have your heard good about it? 22.39.21 # I guess the larger binary is caused by using gcc 3.4.x instead of 3.3.x (cygwin) 22.39.26 # zaknafein: I have no idea, I'm a rockboxer 22.39.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.39.46 # amiconn: quite possibly 22.42.03 # hmm i dont think the JBMM 20 firmware is out yet on that site 22.43.05 # any others? 22.43.19 # amiconn: http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/rockbox.zip 22.47.07 # Badger is there actally somthing downloadable for the JBMM 20 on that site? 22.48.18 # let me repeat: I have no idea, I'm a rockboxer 22.48.24 # this is #rockbox 22.48.34 # Bagder: All plugins I tried are working as they should 22.49.01 # Funny enough, a number of plugins is smaller compared to what gcc 3.3.x produces 22.50.07 # ! 22.54.54 # oops 22.55.04 # One minor thing - the executable misses the .exe extension 22.56.32 # amiconn: yeps, its a mistake in configure 22.57.05 Join MrStaticVoid [0] (~jlee@resnet-236-170.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 22.57.41 # me fix 23.00.23 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 23.01.18 Nick Terminal-Velocit is now known as tvelocity[away] (~tony@ipa27.3.tellas.gr) 23.01.45 # and I have another neat fix too 23.02.17 Join geoff_o [0] (geoff@HSE-Kitchener-ppp231387.sympatico.ca) 23.09.46 # what is currently not working on iRiver Rockbox? 23.10.28 # go read the wiki 23.10.56 Quit Guest8918091 ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.11.14 Join Guest8918 [0] (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 23.11.23 Nick Seedy is now known as Seed (ben@192.114.41.133) 23.11.28 Nick Guest8918 is now known as thegeek (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 23.14.23 Join markun [0] (~markun@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 23.14.30 Join edx [0] (edx@p5487952F.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.14.33 # I guess "RTFW" is now replacing "RTFM". 23.14.34 # preglow, are you there? 23.14.58 # markun: yes 23.15.30 # haha 23.15.49 # I disabled mdct_inverse in Tremor just to see how fast it would be. My slowest ogg's decode at 135% without imdct. Not very fast. 23.16.31 # no iram used? 23.16.37 # iram used. 23.16.40 # for what? 23.17.07 # For the windowing factors. 23.17.41 # And the windowing function is also in iram. 23.17.42 # ok 23.17.50 # functions in iram should be avoided 23.17.57 # we should try to use the cache properly instead 23.18.01 # but yes, doesn't matter now 23.18.12 # i'll have a look at tremor as soon as i'm done with libmad 23.18.18 Quit zaknafein (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.19.16 # ok, that would be great. 23.19.32 # i've only got imdct_l and dct32 left 23.19.40 # and dct32 i don't know if i can handle without going insane 23.20.11 # there's no hurry anyway, i don't think sound and codec apis will be done any time soon 23.20.16 # Profiling would be nice. Than we know what to optimize. I wonder if the gcc patch (to use regs for arguments) will also speed things up. 23.20.39 # everyone would have to agree on using that gcc patch if one is to use it 23.20.47 # True 23.20.51 # my asm functions rely on stack based arguments right now 23.21.08 # they would break quite noisily with register arguments 23.25.16 # I noticed a difference between my ogg files. The are all encoded with q3 but some decode at 103% now and others 135%. Do you know what could cause this? 23.26.58 Quit MrStaticVoid ("leaving") 23.27.50 Quit jyp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.30.20 Join pill [0] (dearth@ip-130.net-82-216-140.issy4.rev.numericable.fr) 23.34.31 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 23.37.14 Quit markun () 23.37.14 Quit nozomiyume (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.52.48 # hmm 23.52.53 # it still crashes my player 23.55.53 Quit pabs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.56.29 # no, it works 23.56.33 Quit midk ("Leaving") 23.57.49 # preglow: Does it also happen for iriver target that libmad.a isn't cleaned with 'make clean'?