--- Log for 11.03.105 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 23 hours ago 00.00.06 # then again, makefiles are not my forte 00.00.28 # It's libmad only, although the makefile looks just like the other codec makefiles 00.00.41 # no 00.00.45 # no? 00.00.57 # the OUTPUT variable isn't set properly when the clean target is used 00.01.04 # Well, there's another difference when 'make'ing 00.01.19 # imho, they should be moved into each makefile and not passed in by the parent one 00.01.29 # All other codecs just mention the source file name; libmad adds the path 00.01.48 # (in the echo CC... line) 00.02.55 # Moving the output variable into the file has problems too... I experienced this when creating the Makefile for rockboy 00.03.27 # $OBJDIR is set different when 'make clean' compared to 'make'/ 'make all' 00.03.34 # yes, it requires some further changes 00.03.41 # I still think that's the way to go 00.04.02 # I agree it is the clean(er) way 00.05.56 # what the hell 00.06.33 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@pD9548E63.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.12.34 Quit thegeek (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.14.24 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7E99F.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.16.09 # just examined the id3 database, the search functionality would be very useful for the filetree as well 00.17.23 # but I cant see an easy way to display the results 00.17.56 # * Bagder can't think of any easy way either 00.18.24 # something like switch temporarly to id3 view? 00.18.32 # * Tomas2 is going to bed 00.18.36 Quit Tomas2 ("c ya later") 00.19.05 # and then use whats already in the db tree 00.20.59 # my god, iriver.mp3 is tragic 00.21.06 Quit amiconn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.21.06 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7E99F.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.26.00 # preglow: The "iRiver theme song" one? 00.26.17 # i would have thought bundling this song with every mp3 player they sold was equivalent with commercial suicide 00.26.58 # rasher: yes 00.27.02 # catch the digital flow... 00.27.16 # It's excellent 00.27.18 # it's not THAT bad :P 00.27.21 # Perfectly horrible 00.27.36 # And I get it each time it's been plugged into usb because it's in the root :) 00.27.48 # And then I catch the digital flow 00.27.52 # haha 00.27.55 # it's the first thing i deleted 00.28.03 # it's so cheesy i almost faint 00.28.10 # That's why I love it. 00.28.11 # I never listed to it 00.28.17 # I wiped, and rsynced 00.28.34 # Bagder: you're better off 00.28.49 # my rsync line works exactly the same for both archos and iriver 00.29.05 Join Renko [0] (~i_dont_wa@host81-152-87-170.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) 00.29.21 # I need to tune mine somehow 00.29.33 # because right now I'm only comparing filesizes 00.29.41 # which doesn't work for when I've only changed metadata 00.32.07 Join nozomiyume [0] (~vthakkar@ip-133-194.station.sony.com) 00.32.10 # Bagder: how're you rsyncing? 00.32.28 # rsync -avW --progress --delete /data/mp3/* /mnt/archos/ 00.32.58 # might not be perfect, but it works fine 00.35.56 # hm, I ended up using --size-ony 00.35.59 # --size-only 00.36.20 # Because of some weirdness with fat32 causing it to update files that weren't changed 00.39.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.41.59 # mmm 00.42.39 # what's shakin'? 00.43.03 # rasher: Why is that a problem? If the file didn't change, simply copying it again shouldn't hurt either 00.43.22 # amiconn: But it takes time, and shouldn't happen! 00.43.26 # yes 00.43.35 # i'm sure copying a same large file over USB1 would suck 00.43.35 # It hurts my nothing-should-happen-for-no-reason sense 00.43.35 # ;P 00.43.36 Nick Seed is now known as mehistme (ben@192.114.41.133) 00.43.51 # avoiding spammers is hard these days :( 00.44.06 # Well I'm using a ihp-120 which has usb2, but it's still annoying 00.44.15 # Agreed to the 'shouldn't happen' part 00.44.36 # Anyway, can't say much about that. I don't use any special sync tool 00.44.41 # Plus I run the iriver database tool if I added files 00.44.43 # rasher: yeah, but I suffered having to use usb1 for awhile with my h120 00.44.51 # (I upgraded recently which included usb2 ;) 00.44.54 # Rick: ouch 00.44.59 # yeah 00.45.12 # spent at least six hours copying stuff over 00.45.13 # * Rick gags 00.45.49 # i just copy stuff i think i want to listen to to it 00.45.51 # no special sync 00.46.32 # I simply copy all mp3s I decided to keep at all to my player :) 00.46.42 # yeah, I do as well 00.46.55 # preglow: sounds like how I would use a 256mb player :) 00.46.55 # the only thing I listen to on my computer now are streams 00.47.06 # i use unison to sync pc<->iriver 00.47.19 # also 00.47.29 # I was thinking, it'd be nice to support tracker formats in the future as well ;) 00.47.42 # it's coming 00.47.46 # * Rick nods 00.47.52 # There's a bit about that in the wiki, but noone seriously working on it I think 00.47.56 # ah 00.48.00 # i'll look into it 00.48.01 # Now that is another thing... grrrfml 00.48.11 # god knows how i would use 256meg player 00.48.14 # i like to listen to entire albums 00.48.14 # * amiconn remembers there are 13000+ mods to sort... 00.48.25 # wasn't someone working on the remote spi? 00.48.32 # Rick: yes, think so 00.48.41 # I tried looking at libmodplug, and it doesn't appear to be using many floats 00.48.42 # amiconn: hehehehehehe ;) 00.48.54 # but it's c ... 00.48.58 # cplusplus 00.49.02 # ouch 00.49.05 # i'm sure there's a lib somewhere 00.49.11 # * Rick searches sourceforge 00.50.02 # say mikmod and there will be an uprising 00.50.12 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@c-180-220-75.cvx-h.dial.de.ignite.net) 00.50.15 # hehe 00.50.33 # what's wrong with mikmod, other than I wasn't going to suggest it? :P 00.50.37 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-162-47-sa-nt.tpgi.com.au) 00.50.46 # Thing is, I actually don't know 00.50.59 Nick mehistme is now known as Seed (ben@192.114.41.133) 00.51.06 # but I've heard a bunch of people saying it has poor support for some features 00.51.11 # ah 00.51.12 # g'Day folks 00.52.10 # there are precious few perfect mod players out there 00.52.14 # the only ones i know of are closed source 00.52.20 # ah 00.53.09 # But then.. a poor C library is probably a better bet than a good cplusplus library 00.53.20 # hehe 00.53.33 # well, mikmod is at least mentioning 00.54.18 # well, we can't use c++ 00.54.36 # mikmod is c++? 00.54.41 # i don't know 00.54.44 # oh ;P 00.55.24 # trying to search SF for mikmod but SF seems to have died on me 00.55.28 # I'm just guessing that it may be feasible to adapt it to c, depending on how "much" cplusplus it is 00.56.16 # http://mikmod.raphnet.net/#files 00.57.02 # appears to be c 00.57.04 # because rsync reads the destination files, you might be better off with some combination of find and cp - to just copy the changed files 00.57.04 Quit Camilo (Remote closed the connection) 00.57.19 # yeah, it's C 00.57.28 Join Camilo_ [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 00.57.30 Nick Camilo_ is now known as Camilo (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 00.58.24 # Camilo: what's wrong with reading the destination files? 00.58.44 # if you're reading them through a slow usb link... 00.58.59 # I'm not. I 00.59.01 # I don't think that's much of a problem 00.59.06 # 'm reading them through usb2 00.59.16 # it's still slower than your hard disk 00.59.22 # it was never a speed issue, it was an issue of being WRONG 00.59.27 # Heh 00.59.33 # it updated files that hadn't changed 01.00.11 # you you use the metadata on your filesystem to find the files that have changed... surely that's better? 01.00.45 # but then I miss out on all of the goodies of rsync 01.00.51 # sigh 01.00.55 Quit Patr3ck () 01.02.10 # plus, I'm not really in the mood for creating such a script 01.02.20 # and I'll want to delete removed files as well 01.02.38 # sounds like hard work 01.02.57 # fair enough 01.05.33 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.09.17 # XMP is also C 01.09.25 # (module library/player) 01.12.24 # I don't know how that compares to mikmod 01.12.59 Quit lolo-laptop ("Client exiting") 01.13.47 # ah 01.15.01 # dumb seems pretty immature 01.15.44 # not a lot of formats supported it seems 01.15.59 # but c 01.17.48 # XMP, or mikmod? 01.18.10 # "DUMB" 01.18.35 Join webguest58 [0] (~519833aa@labb.contactor.se) 01.18.40 # I think xmp and mikmod both support more or less the same formats 01.18.50 # but how well, I don't know 01.19.37 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Other_CODECs 01.20.25 # how's the tremor codec going? 01.20.48 # not too good yet 01.20.59 # Oh 01.21.50 # Did anyone look at the viewer patch yet? 01.22.11 # what viewer patch, and whatsit do? 01.22.28 Quit muesli- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.22.34 # It takes proportional fonts into account 01.22.44 # and adds an extra flow mode 01.23.02 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=1152363 01.23.17 # ah 01.23.23 # I havn't used the text viewer at all yet 01.23.49 # "Reading books on the iriver is much better now" 01.24.01 # We can read books ? 01.24.09 # omg reading books?:P 01.24.46 # if you have them in raw text format, sure 01.24.48 Quit Renko ("cheerio") 01.24.54 # sorry ill be quiet and watch you talk :| you guys should take a break and have a coffee, or tea, whatever yer flava is 01.25.01 # heh 01.25.03 # maybe you could support rtf?:P 01.25.08 # * Rick wouldn't be able to stand reading something on such a small screen 01.25.20 # s/something/a book/ 01.25.20 # even an MP3 song ? 01.25.27 # Or tag :| 01.25.41 # hence correction 01.25.41 # ;) 01.25.52 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050309]") 01.25.59 # bleh heh 01.26.25 # So my little minions, hows the sound coming along 01.26.29 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 01.26.29 # do you need any help with the greek translation, or do you already have someone to do this? 01.26.30 # x11 is like .... hmm.... 01.27.35 # tvelocity[away]: Additional translations (also, updated translations) are always appreciated 01.27.41 Part Camilo 01.27.58 # tvelocity[away]: try taking a look at the current state of the translation and see if it's up to date 01.28.10 # Rockbox claims to support 24 languages, but only 8 of the are up to date 01.28.27 # is it a true translation? 01.28.37 # I thought rockbox didn't support unicode? 01.28.39 # * Rick could be wrong 01.28.50 # Nowt wrong with english 01.28.54 # ouch.. greek is 22 months old 01.29.02 # definately not up to date :) 01.29.11 # feel free to update it tvelocity[away] 01.29.11 # well then except an update soon :) 01.29.12 # ;) 01.29.14 # How much can a dictionary change in 22 months ? 01.29.20 # * preglow pats his norwegian translation 01.29.25 # webguest58: interface updates/changes/additions/removals/etc 01.29.31 # webguest58: well new strings were added to the rockbox interface 01.29.51 # a dictionary not much (given that greek hasnt changed a lot the last 4000 yrs)... but string change a lot in an app:P 01.29.52 # oh yeah, I forgot about the language selection in the config 01.29.55 # Rick: rockbox does not (yet) support unicode, instead it uses different codepages for languages with non-latin characters 01.30.03 # ah, amiconn 01.30.05 # i understand 01.30.32 # Most use the iso8859 family, only russian is a bit different in that it uses win-1251 01.30.39 # ah 01.30.42 # and hebrew? 01.30.52 # wasn't there hebrew? 01.31.05 # yes 01.31.13 # but it doesn't work very good apparently 01.31.19 # How many hebrewish people are going to use rockbox ? 01.31.22 # there was also a chinese version 01.31.30 # webguest58: at least 1 01.31.32 # oh 01.31.32 # also 01.31.34 # but it required a patch 01.31.36 # lol 01.31.37 # markun made a patch that adds unicode support (utf-8) to rockbox 01.31.47 # I thought 'play' on the h120 remote was supposed to start original firmware? 01.31.48 # well since most languages could be represented with 8 bits, i guess its mainly a matter of fonts 01.32.00 # Rick: you need to hold it for a bit 01.32.03 # ahhhh 01.32.04 # This needs some more work before it can be integrated though 01.32.08 # okay 01.32.11 Join Guest8918 [0] (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 01.32.24 # Rick: so the firmware gets a chance to see that you are pressing it 01.32.29 # * Rick nods 01.32.56 # * rasher compiles a list of translation statuses 01.33.02 # Bagder: I think the utf-8 support can borrow some ideas from the chinese patch (font caching) 01.33.38 # utf-8 itself works rather nice, even on archos 01.33.40 # Should i really be talking in here, i feel in the way whilst your working 01.33.52 # webguest58: you're not in the way 01.34.13 # roger that rick 01.34.55 # It only adds ~500 bytes of code so far, and some minor fixups are needed (mostly using lcd_getstringsize() instead of strlen() for formatting 01.37.36 # ok im off, keep doing what your doing, i like it, much appreciated 01.37.57 Quit webguest58 ("CGI:IRC") 01.43.39 # what about grayscale support? does it have any priority, or is it the last thing you plan to do? 01.44.02 # it's done, just not integrated 01.44.10 # really? 01.44.18 # need to agree on the internal framebuffer format 01.44.18 # yes 01.44.19 # okay, that was unpleasant 01.44.22 # taht's w00t 01.44.38 # rockboy is SOOOO cool ;) 01.44.42 # translations really are in a sad state 01.44.52 # not the norwegian one#!"%"# 01.45.01 # or Danish!!! 01.46.09 # neither the greek one, starting from tomorow :P 01.46.24 # excellent 01.47.49 # yes, rockbox is great 01.47.51 # er 01.47.51 # boy 01.47.56 # rockbox is great too though ;) 01.48.13 # let's hope the language files are not too complicated. i assume they're plain text? 01.48.29 # probably 01.48.34 # Yes, there's a tool to help you 01.49.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoUpdateLangfile 01.49.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoUpdateLangfile 01.49.53 # hah 01.49.55 # excellent 01.50.29 # * rasher ponders posting his list of language-files and their age to the mailing list 01.50.58 # I plan to write a script that shows the 10 oldest bug reports/feature requests on the site 01.51.28 # to encourage action 01.51.40 # rasher: The age doesn't necessarily tell us much. For the language files, the percentage of strings still covered would be very interesting 01.51.56 # amiconn: that would require real work though :) 01.51.57 # just run uplang on them and count the comments 01.52.07 # Uh oh.... 01.52.23 # Hm 01.52.25 # sounds like fun 01.52.35 # I'll try 01.53.04 DBUG Enqueued KICK rasher 01.53.04 # first I need a terminal that isn't translucent and 04RED 01.53.35 # 01.53.44 # what? there are terminals out there that are not black? OMG people are sick:P 01.54.25 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.54.25 # * Rick paints tvelocity[away] a bright purple 01.54.37 Quit DMJC ("Leaving") 01.55.16 # hm maybe you should go to a bad-taste-contest 01.55.24 # Probably still better than looking at x11 programming docs :/ 01.55.37 # very probable 01.57.30 # non-black background terminals are satan 01.58.00 # i tried moving imdct_s to an asm file, and now it doesn't work anymore 01.58.02 # three cheers to me 01.59.18 # that's harsh, preglow :_( 02.04.24 # I am now creating bash evil 02.05.58 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 02.06.11 # hm translating seams pretty simple 02.08.22 # it pretty much is 02.08.39 # except for all those words which you don't knoooow how to translate :) 02.08.46 # yeah indeed 02.14.11 # anyone want to take over the cf-mpegdec thing? 02.14.16 # i won't have time to look at it 02.14.23 # amiconn: hrm, actually.. how do I tell this percentage? 02.15.00 # ah 02.15.09 # just the number of empty "new: " lines? 02.15.56 # Does indeed seem so 02.16.06 # well that's easy then 02.17.57 # ah, not quite 02.18.03 # dammit :( 02.18.27 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.18.47 # should i upercase every first word letter? 02.19.23 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 02.19.36 # Only if it seems right 02.19.44 # do what makes most sense for greek 02.19.59 # I didn't do that for Danish 02.20.00 # slap me 02.20.10 # * rasher slaps preglow 02.20.11 # i didn't do it for norwegian 02.20.18 # only do it if it's usual in greek 02.20.29 # i really can't find a nice word for "buffer"... 02.20.41 # that one was easy, heh 02.21.00 # luckily, buffer is sortof accepted into Danish 02.21.11 # it's a norwegian word 02.21.30 # used in all the same contexts as in english 02.21.59 # i'll just leave it buffer (that's common in greek) 02.22.13 # Argh, I'll have to add a check for deprecated strings to this script, I think 02.23.12 # grep -c "new: $" was so easy.. but I guess that's not my kind of luck 02.23.33 # quite a lot of deprecated strings 02.23.40 # yup 02.24.00 # I guess this is not really feasible as a bash script anymore 02.24.15 # or I'll have to look at multiline sed... 02.24.20 # which is pure horror 02.24.37 # I bet if I knew awk it'd be suitable 02.25.09 # perl... 02.25.26 # * rasher curls up in fetal position 02.25.32 # id: LANG_TIME_SET 02.25.33 # desc: used in set_time() 02.25.33 # eng: "ON To Set 02.25.35 Quit Strath (Nick collision from services.) 02.25.38 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 02.25.39 # on what context is that used? 02.25.45 # http://stud.wsi.edu.pl/~robert/awk/ wow.. that's... colourful 02.26.20 # It sounds like it's used for the devices with clocks 02.26.21 # tvelocity[away]: press 'on' to set current time, i guerss 02.26.39 # but I don't know... 02.26.58 # hm i c 02.29.52 # haha 02.30.09 # it never occured to me that having %sp be correct at all times is actually important 02.30.38 # id: LANG_DISCHARGE 02.30.38 # desc: DEPRECATED 02.30.38 # eng: "" 02.30.45 # should i keep this, or delete? 02.30.50 # keep 02.30.56 # ok 02.30.59 # new: 02.31.01 # or new: "" 02.31.10 # doesn't matter 02.31.16 # indeed 02.31.28 # but if the latter was required, it'd make my life easier :) 02.33.18 # * preglow pats himself on the back 02.37.53 # nothing quite as satisfying as making an assembler routine even tighter 02.38.05 # that's an overstatement, but you get it 02.39.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.43.39 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 02.47.56 # clip hold time? 02.49.40 # yes, you're getting to the hard ones ;) 02.49.58 # the other guy left it unchanged 02.50.13 # what is it actually? 02.50.55 # haha, I have absolutely no idea 02.50.57 # i guess the peak meters indicate when the sound has clipped 02.51.08 # and that setting just decides how long until it forgets clipping has occured 02.51.15 # I don't think I translated this string 02.51.23 # new: "Klipfrysetid" 02.51.25 # yuck 02.53.13 # Hrm, awk is mocking me 02.57.19 # over 2/3 of the strings are ### Not previously translated 02.57.29 # looks that i have work to do:P 02.57.44 # s/that/like/ 02.59.12 # tvelocity[away]: yes, i had to translate something around that as well, took me quite some hours 03.01.23 # what is top off charge? 03.02.34 # i have no idea 03.02.44 # think i just used the english term there 03.03.00 # I think it's a charging mode where it's filling the last bits of the battery 03.03.16 # hurray! I have conquered awk 03.03.36 # now to move it all inside this shell script 03.05.04 # wow.. it Just Worked. 03.05.56 # hm... should i keep translating or should i go to bed? 03.05.59 Join Mong0 [0] (~Mong0@cpe-069-132-071-101.carolina.rr.com) 03.06.12 # i didn't know that translating is so addictive:P 03.06.22 # hahah 03.06.40 # i'll probably faint if i try coding imdct_l now 03.06.43 # so i'll go to bed 03.06.44 # good night, all 03.06.51 # goodnight 03.06.55 Quit preglow ("floops") 03.07.48 # tvelocity[away]: 304 untranslated strings if my script is correct 03.07.53 # have fun :) 03.08.08 # Bagder: do you want this script? 03.08.08 # ;P 03.08.26 # i believe i'll have it ready tomorow at noon 03.15.31 Join pabs [0] (~pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 03.31.01 Join csk [0] (~ckuethe@S0106000024c058cc.ed.shawcable.net) 03.45.37 Quit csk ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 03.51.53 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7ECF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.54.10 Quit amiconn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.54.11 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7ECF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.55.08 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-118-175.VIC.netspace.net.au) 04.01.42 Quit Mong0 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC") 04.04.07 Quit cYmen_ ("zZz") 04.05.57 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.10.14 Quit QT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.14.51 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-175-174-sa-pppoe.tpgi.com.au) 04.16.16 Join Bluechip [0] (~BlueChip@cpc3-colc1-3-0-cust61.colc.cable.ntl.com) 04.17.02 Join Lost-ash [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-152.VIC.netspace.net.au) 04.17.26 Quit ashridah (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 04.18.05 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (ashridah@220-253-121-152.VIC.netspace.net.au) 04.39.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.56.01 Part geoff_o ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") 04.59.12 Part Bluechip 05.32.51 # holy crap 05.32.56 # i got mp3s working on rbx 05.48.07 # in what? 05.48.11 # player 05.48.15 # er, device 05.48.16 # ;P 05.51.48 # iriver 05.55.11 Join rubberglove [0] (~46307f26@labb.contactor.se) 05.56.45 Quit rubberglove (Client Quit) 05.56.55 Join webguest45 [0] (~46307f26@labb.contactor.se) 05.57.58 Quit webguest45 (Client Quit) 05.58.42 # really? 05.58.44 # nifty 05.58.47 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 05.58.50 # Soul_Eater: how are you playing it? 05.58.54 # did someone update cvs or something? 05.59.20 Join rubberglove [0] (~46307f26@labb.contactor.se) 06.03.51 Quit rubberglove (Client Quit) 06.04.35 # sucker 06.04.42 # i just wanted to see if anyone was paying attention 06.04.43 # hehe 06.08.54 # * Rick kicks Soul_Eater 06.10.23 # * Soul_Eater punches Rick 06.25.30 Join z63706c [0] (kekekek@CPE-147-10-22-145.vic.bigpond.net.au) 06.39.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.43.53 Quit zzz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.44.17 Join zzz [0] (kekekek@CPE-147-10-22-145.vic.bigpond.net.au) 06.51.12 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.02.44 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 07.03.24 Quit z63706c (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.11.29 # any c/c++ coders around 07.13.52 # yup 07.15.16 # I dont want to distract you of all people from any work of importance youre doing, but I'm having some programming woes myself. 07.17.26 # shoot 07.22.43 # ask away ;P 07.33.47 Join Stu3_ [0] (~Stu3@203-206-51-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.34.02 Quit Soul_Eater (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.00.57 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-217-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 08.06.11 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 08.12.12 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.12.12 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-217-234.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 08.19.22 Quit zzz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.21.09 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 08.39.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.47.02 # * LinusN is very tired... 08.49.16 # * dwihno hands Linus a huge canister of coffee 08.50.30 # aaah, that's better 08.52.10 # :D 08.53.55 # your archos is still alive? 08.54.03 # alive and kicking! 08.54.08 # nice 08.54.22 # must have been hard to be without it for so long 08.54.32 # The new diodes made it so much better! 08.54.37 # hehe 08.54.52 # this is how it should've been from the start 08.54.58 # white modded I guess? 08.55.14 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 08.55.17 # yeah 08.55.30 # I love that 08.55.46 # feels like a whole new player 08.55.47 # Once you gone white, the green light is horrible 08.55.51 # exactly! 08.56.22 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@134.96.247.238) 09.03.53 # the jpeg plugin should abort on stop, imho ;) 09.04.03 # send us a patch 09.04.25 # ;) 09.05.22 # i've been tninking about the rockbox grayscale support 09.05.38 # i think the internal framebuffer format should be target specific 09.05.51 # I just grepped the source tree for \t and found a whole bunch (just thought you might want to know) 09.06.02 # I agree 09.06.08 # and not 1 byte per pixel 09.07.26 # if we have 1 byte per pixel, the frame buffer gets quite large 09.07.45 # a lot of bits wasted 09.07.47 # and it won't fit in the internal ram 09.07.57 # making it a lot slower 09.08.18 # that reminds me 09.08.26 # *dig for a file* 09.09.14 # markuns grayscale patch for iriver looks quite nice 09.09.18 # dwihno: What do you mean, the jpeg plugin should abort on stop? It does exit on stop... 09.09.26 # amiconn: abort on stop 09.09.30 # ? 09.09.36 # abort loading if stop is pressed 09.09.47 # Ah, you mean during decoding? 09.09.51 # mhm :) 09.10.03 # Hmm, can't think of a reason for that... 09.10.47 # ...but shouldn't be hard to add either 09.12.12 # moin 09.12.47 # Schnueff: moo 09.12.54 # just uploaded bug report [1161173] + patch, if someone likes to look at it 09.14.47 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.22.28 # Schnueff: committed, thanks! 09.25.59 # how irc speeds up things :) 09.26.44 Nick kergoth is now known as kergoth`zzz (~kergoth@li11-226.members.linode.com) 09.46.05 # wann wär denn der? 09.46.24 # sorry, wrong channel 09.49.01 # aha 09.49.04 # ;-) 09.49.39 # Die Kartoffel sind wie immer kaputtgegangen 10.00.26 # musst Du die Kartoffeln reparieren 10.03.16 # ich habe Kartoffeln in mein Floppylaufwerke 10.03.46 Join El_Gringo [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-165-126.dsl.bezeqint.net) 10.04.00 # Hi 10.04.05 # ho 10.04.24 # I can't compile rockbox from the daily builds ! :-( 10.05.02 # poor you 10.05.10 # Yesterday, I builded the right rockbox compilation environement for m68k 10.05.29 # But today, I've too many errors in compiling ! 10.05.33 # yes, poor me ! 10.05.43 # what errors? 10.05.54 # with codecs 10.06.14 # :D 10.06.26 # Floppylaufwerke \o/ :) 10.06.28 # a file : codec.h is not present 10.06.28 # ah that reminds me. my simulator was buggy because LITTLE_ENDIAN should have been set, but wasnt. i use gcc (GCC) 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-2), where is LITTLE_DEBIAN meant to be set (cf. dbtree.c) 10.06.50 # (on x86) 10.07.34 # El_Gringo: do you get the code from .tar files or directly from cvs? 10.07.45 # from the tar file 10.07.53 # I souldn't have ? 10.08.25 # just trying to pinpoint the problem 10.08.43 # u ? 10.09.16 # codec.h should be in apps/codec/codec.h 10.09.30 # and isn't ! 10.09.48 # who stoled the codec.h !? 10.10.07 # must be something wrong with the .tar file generation 10.10.13 # FILES needs patch 10.10.24 # me fix 10.10.25 # me fix 10.10.27 # :-) 10.10.29 # heh 10.10.33 # race! 10.10.35 # beacause in the CVS, it's ok ? 10.10.39 # El_Gringo: yes 10.11.11 # ok, so, I'm going to take rockbox from the cvs 10.11.23 # that's more comfortable anyway 10.11.28 # i won! 10.11.36 # grats 10.11.41 # * Bagder curses 10.12.05 # and, after I removed the codecs compilation in the right makefile, I had an other error : cannot find -lmad . It must beacause of a removed the libmad compilation 10.12.07 # right ? 10.12.28 # yes 10.12.41 # ok 10.12.56 # One day, I'll try to compile rockbox ! 10.13.03 # why not today? 10.13.20 # "what are you going to compile today?" 10.13.22 # its not very hard 10.13.23 # why not !? you're right ! 10.13.32 # another one: when building clean from CVS, file.h is not found 10.13.38 # huh? 10.13.53 # mpegplay.c:27:18: file.h: No such file or directory 10.13.53 # In file included from mpegplay.c:30: 10.13.55 # ... 10.14.07 # it's a little bit hard for someone who ever worked with Visual C++, on Windows, etc... 10.14.14 # file.h is in firmware/include 10.14.27 # yeah, but the include path doesnt seem to be set up right 10.14.35 # if i copy it in the build directory, it worx 10.14.41 # Schnueff: which platform? 10.14.47 # that sounds weird 10.14.48 # x86, debian 10.14.52 # it builds fine for many 10.14.57 # "One day, I'll try to compile rockbox !" => it was an error, sorry, my english is far from be perfect ! 10.15.18 # Schnueff: did you rerun tools/configure? 10.15.22 # maybe because of #include "file.h" 10.15.24 # in id3.h ? 10.15.27 # yeah, ran that 10.15.32 # should that be #include ? 10.15.37 # no 10.15.41 # hm ok 10.16.02 # (recorder, simulator version) 10.16.11 # simulator... 10.17.35 # hm i'll check with a source tarball 10.17.42 # no, no 10.18.04 # if ot doesn't work with cvs, it sure won't work with a tarball 10.18.20 # the cvs builds work on the site 10.18.20 Quit El_Gringo (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.18.24 # and that is a debian too 10.18.32 # unless i messed something up locally here 10.18.39 # and i just did a fresh build on debian too 10.18.57 # Schnueff: cvs diff? 10.20.03 Join El_Gringo [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-165-126.dsl.bezeqint.net) 10.20.11 # p 10.20.29 # yeah some change that should not have been there .. sorry for false alarm 10.21.01 # now, let me check again with the endianness issue 10.21.17 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECFE2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.21.31 # yeah that still persists 10.21.50 # grrr 10.22.02 # now : lot of errors in mpeg.c 10.22.29 # wrong endianness (LITTLE_ENDIAN not set?) causes failed initialization in dbtree.c (Unsupported Database Version 82) 82 =='R' 10.22.37 # (on simulator) 10.23.05 # El_Gringo: errors? 10.23.57 # lot of errors in mpeg.c , but only in debug mode. maybe because I failed to compile/install gdb 10.24.42 # debug mode is only for SH targets, and only needed if debugging with a serial port 10.24.59 # ho, ok 10.25.19 # one day we might develop a gdb stup for coldfire 10.25.21 # not with the simulator ? 10.25.22 # stub 10.25.30 # simulator is simulator 10.25.30 # El_Gringo: nope 10.26.06 # LinusN: did you see amiconn's reportings? the cross-compiled win32 sim builds works like charm now 10.26.13 # c00l! 10.26.19 # including plugins and everything 10.26.22 # wow 10.26.25 # great, I just build rockbox for the first time ! 10.26.39 # El_Gringo: congrats 10.27.12 # And my first linux compilation (excluding binutils and gcc, yesterday) 10.27.21 # thanks for your help 10.28.40 # you're welcome 10.28.53 # hm 10.29.20 # i wonder what we should do with the ENDIAN problem 10.29.27 # mein stdlib.h defines __LITTLE_ENDIAN instead it seems 10.29.31 # my :) stdlib.h defines __LITTLE_ENDIAN instead it seems 10.29.38 # and then later on: 10.29.40 # #ifdef __USE_BSD 10.29.43 # # define LITTLE_ENDIAN __LITTLE_ENDIAN 10.29.45 # #endif 10.29.55 # so LITTLE_ENDIAN is not active... 10.30.18 # so we could check for both 10.30.25 # yeah probably 10.30.31 # try that 10.30.31 # lemme check 10.30.53 # * LinusN thinks the compiler should define the ENDIAN macros 10.32.04 # we could make a check and let configure set a define 10.32.29 # btw, apps/codecs/Tremor/misc.h also uses a third form (#if BYTE_ORDER==LITTLE_ENDIAN) 10.32.40 # yeah, we should cleanup the mess 10.38.53 # hm w8 a sec .. 10.39.40 # my stdlib.h defines all the macros .. but they dont seem to get through to CC dbtree.c 10.39.40 Quit El_Gringo (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.39.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.40.01 Join El_Gringo [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-165-126.dsl.bezeqint.net) 10.40.17 # no, rockbox has its own stdlib.h 10.40.21 # ah 10.40.27 # firmware/include/stdlib.h 10.40.52 # so where does endianness come from? 10.40.53 Quit El_Gringo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.41.00 # (its still a simulator build...) 10.41.38 # I don't know 10.42.01 Join El_Gringo [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-165-126.dsl.bezeqint.net) 10.42.03 # I've been arguing to set the define in a central place, at configure time 10.42.21 # is there a way to make CC dbtree.c 10.42.23 # more verbose? 10.42.30 # yes, edit tools/make.inc 10.42.33 # remove the @ 10.42.37 # k 10.42.57 # (we should make it possible to do that without edits) 10.43.29 # in linux kernel land it is made with 'make V=1' 10.43.53 # Bagder: let's do the same 10.44.01 # * Bagder is on yet another close-requests venture 10.45.40 # btw, we should write a wiki page for general "what about Rockbox for player XXX" questions/suggestions 10.45.40 Quit El_Gringo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.45.51 # including hints on how people could proceed 10.46.05 # so, my problem is that gcc should define *_{ENDIAN,ORDER} out of the box but it does only so when including /usr/include/stdlib.h ? 10.46.35 # sounds so 10.46.48 # ok 10.47.20 # gcc doesn't do that 10.47.23 # for me 10.47.28 # gcc -E -dM -xc /dev/null 10.47.33 # Bagder: how well is Tremor working, btw? 10.47.49 # but if your gcc doesnt also do it how does it work at all? 10.47.57 # Seed: seems to be progressing, even if a little slow still 10.48.06 # is it not 100% speed yet? 10.48.20 # Seed: I think it is slightly over 100, but we want more 10.48.23 # Schnueff: there are few places where the endianness matters 10.48.31 # Bagder: I really hope libmusepack is easier for you to work with 10.48.37 # ah ok, so possibly know noticed yet 10.48.42 # know one even 10.48.49 # noone 10.48.58 # Seed: I hope so too, but it is also less prioritized 10.49.01 # no one even! :) 10.49.20 # Bagder: why? :) 10.49.23 Join El_Gringo [0] (~chatzilla@bzq-165-126.dsl.bezeqint.net) 10.50.29 # Seed: judging from what people seem to prefer to work on... 10.50.42 # I guess people have more mp3 and ogg files 10.50.48 # verbose build support with V=1 committed 10.50.56 # goodie 10.52.09 # Bagder: I'll sponsor good headphones and free MPCs for everyone :D 10.52.17 # hehe 10.52.46 # Seed: get yourself an iRiver and join in ;-) 10.53.04 # I have one 10.53.08 # ah 10.53.12 # then go go go 10.53.18 # IMP-250 ;) 10.53.49 # as old as myself 10.54.26 # will never run anything like RockBox, even though it has the power to 10.54.54 # never say never ;-) 10.55.02 # mad people work on this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverIfpPort 10.55.17 # interesting 10.55.18 # Seed: is musepack fixed or floating point? 10.55.41 # both 10.56.41 # so you can compile a fixed-point version? 10.56.58 # yes 10.57.06 # nice 10.59.15 # I only have xscale speed measurements, though 10.59.28 # without any optims, 1000% speed on a 400 MHz one 11.00.20 # "Switchable fixed-point and floating-point modes - enable/disable "#define MPC_FIXED_POINT" in mpc_math.h" 11.00.43 # I think xscale's faster than coldfire 11.01.41 # yes 11.01.54 # but it should still be around 200% on a 120 MHz Coldfire 11.02.07 # yeps 11.02.35 # hopefully 11.05.22 # Bagder: have you looked at the code in v1.1? 11.05.38 # nope 11.08.06 # gotta move. bbl :) 11.09.11 # cu 11.16.18 # lunch 11.35.52 Join Renko [0] (~Renko@host217-43-110-58.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) 11.55.26 Join christi [0] (~christi@213.78.160.138) 11.59.18 Nick christi is now known as Cassandra (~christi@213.78.160.138) 12.03.29 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 12.23.29 Quit Heidel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.32.36 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 12.35.37 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 12.36.36 # There's no documentation for the plugin API ? 12.36.58 # plugin.h should be good enough 12.37.04 # docs/PLUGIN_API 12.37.23 # plugin.h don't document all functions 12.37.29 # thanks Badger 12.38.10 # Are there any replacement batteries available for the ihp1x0-models, or do you have to "refurbish" it? 12.38.18 # there are batteries available 12.38.43 # www.dapstore.com sells one 12.38.53 # don't know of anyone that has tried it, though 12.39.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.41.22 # aah 12.41.23 Quit Guest8918 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.41.31 # I'm SO getting a ihp-140 12.48.52 # * LinusN got the data sheets for the H1xx remote control LCD 12.48.58 # Way! 12.49.41 Join Schee [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-10-50.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.53.00 # woop 12.53.20 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 12.53.35 # i suspect we'll be stuck in the rut we are right now on that front as well, though, have the code to make it work, but haven't agreed on how to do the api 12.53.38 # heh 12.54.47 # LinusN: i saw your thoughts on the framebuffer format in the logs, btw, does that mean markun can pretty much just put it in cvs soon? 12.54.59 # grayscale support, that is 12.55.45 # i have a few thing to check first 12.55.48 # things 12.55.56 Quit Schee4 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.56.11 # how many shades of grey does ihp-1xx actually support? 12.56.20 # 4 12.56.21 # 4 12.56.32 # black, white and two grey 12.56.35 # black, white and two shades 12.56.38 # :-) 12.56.39 # haha 12.56.41 # haha 12.56.46 # wow, just enough to play gameboy games ;) 12.56.51 # echo, echo, echo... 12.56.54 # this is just getting silly, the last six lines are near duplicates 12.57.08 # @echo off 12.57.13 # ought to help 12.57.33 # to top it off, the shades are user-definable! 12.57.42 # from a three bit palette, i think 12.57.57 # yeah, they can be grey, grey or grey 12.57.57 # so we actually have 8 shades? 12.58.12 # only 4 simultaneously 12.58.18 # six, two of them are white and black, i think 12.58.26 # might be mistaken 12.58.31 # you are correct 12.58.41 # 4 shades are more than enough 12.58.50 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-197-87.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 12.59.03 # i'm thinking of committing the grayscale patch, we can always change it later 12.59.15 # sounds fair 12.59.19 # do it! i want to play donkey kong land!!! 12.59.21 # well, yes, unless it plain doesn't work 12.59.22 # :P 12.59.26 # it works 12.59.30 # then i say go for it 12.59.57 # it slows down the font output though 13.01.06 # why? 13.01.42 # because of how it is imlemented 13.01.52 # the fonts are still b&w 13.01.52 # the easy way, rather than the fast way 13.02.14 Join Cassandra_ [0] (~christi@213.78.97.185) 13.02.15 # well, yes, but can't see why that can't be fixed some day 13.02.22 # of course 13.05.14 # but i'll go fetch some food and try my hand at imdct_l 13.08.51 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.12.33 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.12.33 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-197-87.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 13.15.21 Join Guest8918 [0] (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 13.17.53 Join Patr3ck_ [0] (~patr3ck@p548CB9BD.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.20.31 # yawn 13.33.16 # yeah, i finished translating! 13.33.57 Quit Patr3ck (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.34.13 # time to look over everything you've done and look for mistakes, then :P 13.35.47 # should be ok i think:P 13.36.43 # should i submit it as a bug report, or just DCC it to someone? 13.37.34 # amiconn took care of our translations 13.37.40 # submit it as a patch 13.42.48 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1161324&group_id=44306&atid=439118 13.46.53 # i'm thinking of committing the grayscale patch, we can always change it later 13.46.56 # are you referring to markun's? 13.47.14 # ah, nevermind 13.47.16 Quit Cassandra_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.47.18 # the slowdown was already mentioned 13.47.28 # (it _really_ slows down scrolling in menus) 13.47.51 # yes it does 13.48.04 # there's also a bug that I made a crappy patch for 13.48.17 # (plugin exit does not reset fg/bg color) 13.48.24 # tvelocity[away]: i said "patch", not "bug report" 13.48.51 # Rick: saw that 13.48.56 # hm i didnt know there was a diference 13.49.06 # a bug is not a patch :-) 13.49.09 # most projects use bug reports for everything 13.49.16 # i can fix that, don't worry 13.49.21 # even for feature requests et c 13.49.37 # anyway i'll do it irght next time:P 13.49.42 # ahh, yes, but we don't use bugzilla :P 13.50.54 # i've never used something other than bugzilla till now 13.50.56 # :P 13.51.29 # stop bugging us! :-) 13.51.34 # hehe 13.51.48 # does the remote have grayscale as well? 13.51.52 # no 13.51.56 # thought so 13.52.08 # doesn't really matter 13.52.20 # dwihno: why not? 13.52.22 # what's the res (X x Y) of the remote LCD? 13.52.40 # my guess, like 48x128 or something 13.52.51 # er 13.52.53 # Rick: I've been running rockbox for ages, and I can't see why grayscale is such a needed feature... I mean, the only thing I see useful for the remote is antialiased fonts :) 13.52.54 # 128x48 13.53.10 # dwihno: oh, in rockbox itself, no need 13.53.16 # but there are plugins that can take advantage of it 13.56.11 Join Heidel [0] (~h@p548088C4.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.56.17 # it'd be stupid not to take advantage of it when we have grayscale support 13.56.40 # true, but if the hardware lacks grayscale, it's not such a big loss 13.57.18 # the problem now is just speed 14.15.09 Join sox [0] (~sox@c-8b3ce255.733-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 14.18.34 # hoy all, this is the everlasting question I guess, almost in class of "Does God exist..." but, how's the status on sound on iriver? The codecs are doing pretty good now right? mad and flac are well over 100%... I don't want to be added to the list of annoying bugging people, but Im just curious as hell.... 14.19.48 # we haven't worked on the sound api yet 14.20.52 # if someone magically creates a crack in time, i might be able to work on both rockbox and still have a life 14.21.45 # Hey Linus, I sure understand that (I got a kid and two jobs too!) and dont want to bug anyone about, but Im just curious, there must be a reason to why you havent started on the sound api, right? 14.22.04 # people generally seem to have little rockbox time these days 14.22.08 Join Mong0 [0] (~Mong0@cpe-069-132-071-101.carolina.rr.com) 14.22.18 # (cuz time tend to come out of black holes sometimes when you want something really much) 14.23.25 Quit Mong0 (Client Quit) 14.24.47 # sox: my life is a little more complicated that most people's 14.24.52 # than 14.25.14 # I wish I could ask you about it, but you probably wouldn't answer here anyway...? 14.25.29 # the old rockboxers know about it 14.25.50 # i have a very sick wife 14.25.54 # and two kids 14.26.03 # ah 14.26.44 # so rockbox work is like meditation to you? 14.26.46 # A vacation from the project would do you good, Linus. 14.26.51 # sox: sort of 14.26.59 # i recognize that 14.27.13 # but that meditation has to take place in the night... 14.28.02 # dwihno: sometimes i think a vacation from my life would do me even better :-) 14.28.05 # how old are your kids? 14.28.12 # 2 and 5 14.28.45 # speaking of life, i have to go now 14.29.13 # then i know what you're talking about, cuz night is short when you need to wake up and go to daycare, work, pick up kids again etc etc 14.29.29 # indeed 14.29.53 # and it's not like rockbox is the only spare time project either :-) 14.30.00 # well, you're doing a great job with all your tasks anyway Im sure! 14.30.44 # maybe you should start some weird decipher project instead of rockbox so that gizmo lovers wouldnt bug you everyday for whatnows... 14.30.54 # hehe 14.30.54 # only joking 14.31.42 # but seriously, good information to the users is always a good way to get rid of painful support-like situations, and rockbox website is great at that 14.31.58 # can always be better 14.32.05 # how old are your kids btw? 14.32.13 # but to make the "new" iriver users happy a more detailed status page would maybe ease the pressure 14.32.21 # sox: there is a status page 14.32.30 # i got a daughter age 2,5 14.32.34 # more detailed, perhaps 14.32.43 # sox, that's a really fun age 14.33.15 # preglow: exactly, like, codec status, why the api work hasnt started, time estimations, that kind of stuff that would keep them/us away from you and your vauable dev time 14.33.34 # time estimations is a no-no, if you ask me 14.33.39 # LinusN: it is! she's wonderful. 14.33.43 # of course, we have no ideas 14.34.01 # i have to run, take care all 14.34.04 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 14.34.05 # bye 14.34.06 Part LinusN 14.34.43 # I understand that time est are hard, but since that's what everyone are after, some lies might be a good decoy ;-) 14.35.09 # haha, no, i don't think so 14.35.12 # 'cause we really have no idea 14.35.29 # then let's guess! 14.35.43 # iriver sound: 1,5 year 14.35.49 # but i really don't want to put up an estimate i don't think we can make 14.35.50 # ;P 14.36.10 # preglow: you are right of course 14.36.56 # and that's why small DIY projects like these are fun I guess, cuz they're different from regular life with things going as planned all the time 14.37.08 # (small was wrong word!) 14.37.20 # well, kind of, i sure enjoy doing stuff with no eta's 14.37.53 # but i haven't got much time to spare today, so i'll go back to coding 14.39.42 # do that, good luck 14.39.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.41.05 Quit sox ("Snak 4.13 IRC For Mac - http://www.snak.com") 14.42.52 Quit El_Gringo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.1/20050226]") 14.52.06 Part DMJC ("Leaving") 14.53.28 Join geoff_o [0] (geoff@HSE-StCath-ppp252784.sympatico.ca) 15.07.34 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@83.69.98.249) 15.33.47 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 15.39.51 Quit Schee (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.40.19 Join Schee [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-8-146.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.41.08 # heh.. 15.48.39 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 15.52.43 Quit R3nTiL () 15.53.25 # heh.. 15.53.51 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.19.16 Quit Renko (Remote closed the connection) 16.19.31 # * HCl stares at the sound driver a bit, pondered a hack to make it work temporarily a bit.. 16.20.40 # but it doesn't seem very adaptable to a buffer that can reempty.. 16.20.50 # * HCl will analyze more later. 16.22.37 Quit Schee (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.26.52 # * rasher punches awk 16.27.12 # Do what I want you to, not what I tell you to! 16.28.28 # perl.. 16.29.40 # I refuse 16.32.17 # it's working, actually 16.32.25 # I'm just prodding it to make the output nicer 16.36.12 # http://zork.net/~rasher/langstatus.txt 16.36.49 # looks good 16.37.05 Join Bagder_ [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 16.37.10 # so, what does it do? uplang all the lang files and count number of nen deprecated new:'s ? 16.37.15 # nen=non 16.37.38 # Yup 16.37.39 # sort it on the numbers instead 16.37.42 # make a toplist! 16.37.54 # \o/ 16.38.17 # And non voice-strings 16.38.41 # Hrm.. sorting would require a major reworking.. and possibly perl 16.38.44 # :-\ 16.38.46 Join Schee [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-8-101.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.38.49 # | sort ? 16.38.59 # just do it in bash:P 16.39.02 # good point 16.39.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.45.07 # mrf... 16.45.21 Quit Bagder (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.45.25 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 16.48.58 Join SirWA2 [0] (~ikke@f246074.upc-f.chello.nl) 16.50.23 # mrf.. 17.08.11 Join T0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 17.08.13 # hi 17.10.05 Part geoff_o ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") 17.11.16 # http://zork.net/~rasher/langstatus.txt 17.12.12 # looks good 17.12.42 # of course, now the language names are sorted by length :) 17.22.26 Join mecraw [0] (fwuser@69.2.235.2) 17.22.29 # how many stings are there in rockbox? 17.22.52 # strings? 17.24.32 # to translate, words in the interface? 17.24.51 # i bet rasher can answer that 17.25.20 # oh.. hang on 17.25.25 # just because i thought 277 was already a lot, and that's just the untranslated ones in afrikaans 17.28.14 # hm... little c/c++ question... 17.28.24 # int a = (200 << 16); 17.28.28 # what does it do? 17.29.12 # shifts 200 16 places to the left 17.29.26 # and... what does that mean? 17.29.36 # :) 17.29.37 # it's the same as 200 * (2^(16 - 1) 17.29.37 # 200 = 11001000 17.30.16 # ok, but that shift thing... isn't that the same as moving 11001000 16 bits to the left? 17.30.21 # Lynx_awy: 378 strings 17.31.08 # T0mas: yup 17.31.15 # ok tnx 17.34.47 # hm... is there a way to get the n-th bit of a int/char ? 17.35.33 # rasher: i would have guessed like 80 17.35.37 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 17.36.23 # Heh 17.39.28 Nick kergoth`zzz is now known as kergoth (~kergoth@li11-226.members.linode.com) 17.56.29 Quit Patr3ck_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.01.24 # seems i've gotten a mail from the wavpack developer 18.01.29 # he's eager to help on porting it 18.02.55 # Excellent 18.03.00 # as in optimizing? 18.03.29 # Because the port is done isn't it? 18.03.32 Join christi [0] (~christi@213.78.97.185) 18.03.50 Nick christi is now known as Cassandra (~christi@213.78.97.185) 18.03.52 Join Ya`aQob [0] (~terry@user-0c6scjt.cable.mindspring.com) 18.03.58 # mronig 18.04.30 # Morning 18.04.38 # if that's what you meant :) 18.04.47 # yeah haaa 18.05.15 # does rockbox support jukebox multimedia 20? 18.06.02 Quit DeadMan () 18.07.05 Quit Cassandra (Client Quit) 18.07.44 Join Cassandra [0] (~christi@213.78.97.185) 18.08.55 # anyone know how to format fat32 on Win XP? 18.09.05 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 18.09.21 # hmm 18.09.25 # I think XP will only format fat32 less than 32gb or something 18.09.28 # but I'm not sure 18.09.33 # ahhh 18.09.34 # don't really use it much 18.09.42 # these are questions you can easely find on the inet.. 18.09.45 # rasher: in optimizing, yes, he says he's got dsp experience as well as ideas of what to optimize 18.09.49 # me neither but im trying to setup a new 2.5 for my archos 18.09.52 Quit Guest8918 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.09.53 # it wants fat32 18.10.05 # preglow: well that's great news 18.10.06 # Ya`aQob..google it.. 18.10.18 # rasher: deed 18.10.24 # There's a program called SwissKnife which will format it for you. 18.10.33 # seems like you guys may have done it though 18.10.58 # Cassandra tahnk you! 18.11.16 # You're welcome. 18.12.20 # does rockbox support jukebox multimedia 20? 18.13.43 # don't think so 18.13.58 # Ya`aQob look it up on rockbox website 18.14.33 # i did, thats why im here 18.14.35 # damn, seems like coffee is what's been causing some throat discomforts i've been having over the last half year 18.14.38 # what a damn bummer 18.14.59 # maybe its teh sugar or milk? 18.15.10 # i don't add anything to it 18.15.33 # how about tea? same thing? 18.15.42 # no, that's what i've been drinking lately 18.15.46 # i drink alot of tea and coffee, without additives 18.15.54 # ya: No, I'm afraid it doesn't (support the MM20) 18.15.58 # maybe an acid thing 18.16.02 # yes, probably 18.16.11 # i'll just have stop drinking coffe 18.16.11 # e 18.16.14 # and i love coffee :/ 18.16.18 # Cassandra thank you, thats asmaed though 18.16.22 # me too 18.16.35 # what coffee brand are you drinking may i ask 18.16.49 # nothing that's known outside of norway 18.17.00 # ahh, preground espresso? 18.17.07 # no espresso 18.17.39 # try a very fresh ground coffee, or try a fresh ground lite coffee 18.17.50 # i will 18.18.12 # i only drink irish coffee 18.18.14 # i have pretty good coffee being close to afrika and south america 18.18.22 # neverhad irish coffee 18.18.44 # also if you filter, maybe concider a french press 18.18.50 # its coffee & whiskey 18.19.04 # hate to see you give up such a wonderful benefit..haa 18.19.07 # ahh ha 18.19.21 # i'll probably work it out 18.19.26 # yeaah 18.19.37 # well get through this thing man! 18.19.45 # might not be it anyway, but sure seems like it 18.19.46 # stick with us . . . 18.20.05 # don't worry, i won't kill myself until i can't have beer 18.20.14 # i think tea has more caffeine anyway 18.20.48 # coffee doesn't wake me up much anyway 18.20.55 # it's more the taste i miss 18.21.03 # masochist. 18.21.42 # * rasher hums.. o/~ du skal dansa ompa til du dør o/~ 18.22.18 # hahah 18.23.51 # :) 18.24.00 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 18.29.25 # * rasher leaves 18.29.28 Part rasher 18.33.09 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 18.37.31 Quit Stu3_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18.39.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.45.54 Join ultrapod [0] (~lspmaster@85-64-23-221.barak.net.il) 18.46.13 Quit tvelocity[away] () 18.46.50 # are you doing firmware to iriver h10? 18.47.13 # no 18.47.25 # at least no one works on that 18.47.30 # feel free to start! 18.47.34 # thanks for the help folks ttyl 18.47.38 Quit Ya`aQob () 18.47.50 # haha 18.47.54 # good luck in finding docs 18.48.15 # :-) 18.48.25 # they managed to do ipodlinux 18.48.29 # they did 18.48.49 # but yes, its hard work 18.49.09 # i daresay 18.49.35 # i would 18.49.51 # i know a bit programing 18.50.00 # has anyone opened a h10 yet? 18.50.36 # i saw you got the h100 18.52.14 # if i add the font i want to font dir will it play it? 18.52.26 # had anyone tried it? 18.52.33 # show* 18.52.43 # it should show it then, yes 18.54.00 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.54.10 # even if it right to left language 18.54.12 # ? 18.54.31 # probably not 18.54.46 # that info is not encoded in the fonts anyway 18.54.58 # right 18.55.02 # hmm 19.08.09 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 19.08.28 Join Cassandra [0] (~christi@213.78.160.12) 19.08.35 Quit lolo-laptop ("Client exiting") 19.20.51 Join Mong0 [0] (~ab9fc00a@labb.contactor.se) 19.21.24 Quit Mong0 (Client Quit) 19.21.26 Join Mong0 [0] (~ab9fc00a@labb.contactor.se) 19.22.48 Join jyp [0] (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 19.26.54 Join Soul_Eater [0] (~faccess@pcp04474086pcs.brmngh01.mi.comcast.net) 19.36.13 # any c/c++ coders around 19.36.18 # yes 19.37.32 Join Bippy [0] (~519833c1@labb.contactor.se) 19.38.51 Quit Bippy (Client Quit) 19.39.15 # ah. 19.39.21 # problem: http://www.codeguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331403 19.40.49 # what is CHAR ? 19.45.55 # do you know have strtok works? 19.46.03 # how 19.46.25 # the second parameter isn't what it searches for, it's what separates the tokens from each other 19.47.11 # so if i've got "hello5yo5lol", strktok(mystring, "5") returns a pointer to "hello" the first time, a pointer to "yo" the second time, etc 19.50.23 Nick jyp is now known as Laura (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 19.53.23 # from strtok manpage: 19.53.34 # BUGS: Never use these functions. 19.53.38 # :) 19.55.51 # never used strtok myself 19.56.17 # it's a prime example of a routine it's better to write yourself 20.01.37 Nick Laura is now known as jyp (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 20.06.41 Quit T0mas ("c ya") 20.25.50 Quit Mong0 ("CGI:IRC") 20.32.33 Quit Schnueff ("leaving") 20.33.48 Quit ultrapod () 20.38.49 Nick Strath is now known as Michele (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 20.39.39 Nick Michele is now known as Samantha (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 20.40.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.40.26 Nick Samantha is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 20.40.54 Join Quelsaruk [0] (~kvirc@80.103.128.173) 20.40.59 # late evening 20.41.13 Nick jyp is now known as TomSelleck (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 20.42.10 Nick Strath is now known as BradPitt (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 20.44.31 Nick BradPitt is now known as FordPrefect (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 20.45.40 Nick FordPrefect is now known as wilwheaton (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 20.46.08 # wilwheaton: what gives 20.46.20 Nick wilwheaton is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 20.46.33 Nick TomSelleck is now known as Jyp (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 20.46.54 # sorry, goofing around in #gmemu 20.47.30 # We're a buncha idiots :) 21.02.29 # http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/tremor/2005-March/001172.html 21.02.31 # might be useful 21.06.58 Join rasher [0] (~53484207@labb.contactor.se) 21.07.04 # * rasher sighs 21.07.17 # cleaning spyware off my parents' computer... 21.07.41 Part SirWA2 21.09.05 # ahhh 21.09.12 # that job also befalls me very often 21.09.35 # I should set up an administrator account that only I have the password for 21.09.41 # and vnc 21.09.45 # indeed 21.09.48 # so when they want to install something, they ask me 21.09.51 # hrm 21.10.00 # i put firefox on all the computers i clean, and tell people to use it 21.10.04 # that goes a far way 21.10.05 # I did that! 21.10.13 # And yet, he used explorer :( 21.10.23 # I specifically told him "use firefox!"' 21.10.32 # the last thing I said before leaving the house 21.10.35 # you can mangle IE's proxy settings, and set no proxy for windowsupdate.com 21.10.50 # huh 21.11.10 # it goes far away 21.17.18 # hmm 21.17.26 # btw, i have a strange issue in WinXP... 21.17.32 # i pluged an external drive 21.18.11 # crwl: I don't see the idea 21.18.38 # windoze recognises it, but, doesn't assign it a drive letter... has anyone had this problem before? 21.18.39 # rasher, why? 21.19.29 # Quelsaruk 21.19.34 # go to computer management 21.19.42 # i'm there 21.19.43 # and assign the drive a drive letter 21.19.48 # i can't 21.19.57 # that's the strange thing :/ 21.19.57 # format it? 21.20.01 # hmm 21.20.01 # no 21.20.09 # should be able to assign a drive letter anyway 21.20.10 # wierd 21.20.18 # i hoped i was able to keep the info 21.20.50 # you are in disk management right? 21.20.57 # crwl: why would I set no proxy for windowsupdate.com? 21.21.02 # yes, i am there 21.21.04 # k 21.21.07 # then I don't know;) 21.21.10 # rasher, so that you can still access windows update 21.21.20 # rasher, if the proxy settings are mangled so that you can't connect anywhere 21.21.38 # thegeek: windows see the drive, tells me it has a ntfs format and that the drive is "ok"... but no letter :/ 21.21.44 # yeah 21.21.46 # linux ;) 21.22.06 # just copy what you need and reformat it and copy back 21.22.58 # hehehe 21.23.08 # crwl: ah, now I get it :) 21.23.39 # but, does linux read ntfs ok right now? last time i tried to do that, ntfs support was in development 21.24.00 # it reads ok 21.24.07 # writes are not perfect yet, atleast I think so 21.24.15 # I've been more or less afk for the last 9 months 21.24.16 # oh 21.24.18 # great then 21.24.20 # military service 21.24.21 # :) 21.24.54 # ahh 21.25.00 # that's one thing i'm planning on avoiding 21.25.39 # They didn't want me ^.^ 21.26.01 # the didn't want me either, initially, and now i'm done with 5 five years of school, so now they'll probably want me 21.26.10 # hehe 21.26.39 # preglow : in case you actually have to go, apply for garden, that way you won't have as much time out in the field 21.26.58 # oh, i won't go, hell no, i have no desire to spend a year in the military now 21.27.17 # if there is one thing I really hate it is sleeping in a tiny tent, with no lights, 10 other people around you, and having to get up and stand guard 21.27.19 # i even bloody applied to do it before i moved up here, but nooo, they had to be difficult 21.27.22 # hahaha 21.27.25 # you applied? 21.27.27 # you crazy fuck 21.27.33 # bah 21.27.38 # well, they said they wanted me around winter times 21.27.58 # is there conscription in norway? 21.28.00 # and i was not about to do nothing for half a year just for that 21.28.20 # crwl: yes 21.28.24 # preglow, sucks. 21.28.29 # indeed 21.28.29 # hehe 21.28.30 # crwl: indeed 21.28.33 # indeed 21.28.41 # (sucks in finland too, of course) 21.28.42 # but I got out after just 8~ months, instead of 12 21.29.01 # because of economy 21.29.06 # hehe 21.29.13 # it rocks;) 21.29.17 # I was dumped because I have asthma :) 21.29.18 # hell yes 21.29.20 # almost as much as rockbox,) 21.29.40 # if they call for me again, i'll invent something 21.29.44 # hehe 21.30.00 # poor eyesight, missing legs, lacking brain, whatever 21.30.33 # i'm doing my civilian service here in finland, 103/395 mornings remaining 21.30.36 # vondt i viljen;) 21.30.52 # i don't have to do anything 21.31.23 # obligatory military service has been canceled in Spain... 21.31.23 # :P 21.31.32 # so you're from a civilized country then :P 21.31.38 # not really 21.31.52 # but we try to make other countries think that ;) 21.32.32 # spaniards civilized, that was a good one 21.32.38 # :) 21.33.13 # the ones around here are too busy waking me with screaming around 05:00 too have time to give me that impression 21.33.26 # hehe 21.33.27 # thegeek: if you're still planning on moving here, you'll find out soon enough 21.34.00 # preglow: i told you... erasmus students.. doesn't matter if they are spanish or greek... even swedish 21.34.10 # Quelsaruk: i know... 21.34.19 # well, the only swede i know is pretty quiet 21.34.22 # the italians or not 21.34.22 # :) 21.34.28 # are 21.34.53 # ok, i admit... latin countries are the worst... the craziest in the world 21.34.59 # so, we are the best ;) 21.36.05 # haha 21.36.11 # there is a distint contrast to norway, yes 21.37.33 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 21.38.49 # hehee preglow:) 21.38.59 Quit edx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.39.11 # that won't be a problem, I'm usually still awake at 0500 ;) 21.39.12 # hehehe 21.39.16 # haha 21.39.22 # oh, they don't mind about the 'usually' 21.39.29 # humhum 21.39.47 # i had to get up early for once the other day, then they showed up around 05:00 and threw snowballs at windows 21.40.58 # hahahaha 21.41.03 # sounds fun:) 21.41.13 # preglow: come on! you have a nice Wakeup alarm... 21.41.36 # sure, would be great if i actually would ever need to get up at 05:00 21.41.42 # if that ever becomes the case, i'll kill myself anyway 21.41.49 # always complaining... 21.42.04 # that's why you are not as cool as Spanish ;) 21.42.05 # with a rusty potato peeler 21.42.19 # haha 21.42.23 # i also prefer to wake up to music 21.42.27 # and these spaniards were not singing 21.43.59 # you have to learn this phrase "Que os jodan maricones! Callaros de una puta vez" 21.44.05 # i don't want to translate 21.44.16 # but they will surely shut up 21.44.18 # :) 21.45.05 # not nice, that is :) 21.45.09 # Spyware is gone! (I think) 21.45.23 # kill me now 21.45.48 # CoCoLUS: of course not, but... if someone here in Spain wakes you up at 5:00 am, you tell them that, and much more 21.45.54 # they will understand 21.45.55 # for sure 21.46.29 # or the hit you to a bloody mess, depends on the type, i think :) 21.47.56 # hahah 21.48.16 # i do recognize the key words 21.48.43 # hmm Erasmus... i know them quite well... they won't hit you... probably... 21.48.59 # oh, i live in the third floor 21.49.03 # you can always deport them here 21.49.07 # haha 21.50.17 # the best mandatory military service is certainly the austrian one :) 21.50.51 # you either get to the borders, then you are, well, just -fucked-, 8 months, or you get some office job where you have to work like 2 hours and then - free time 21.51.00 # watching movies, reading books, etc 21.51.05 # btw, does anyone here speak fluent spanish? or at least understand it perfectly? 21.51.55 # babelfish doesn't. 21.54.03 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.55.02 # damn.. 21.55.06 # what a pity 21.55.14 Join Cassandra [0] (~christi@213.78.102.201) 21.55.24 # i wanted to show you a really funny thing, but it's in spanish 21.57.04 # translate it :) 21.57.10 # hehe 21.57.23 # it's a short Flash movie 21.57.28 # i can't translate 21.58.19 # gotta go anyway, bye 22.00.21 # cu! 22.00.54 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 22.01.37 # preglow- read is CHAR. and if I shouldnt use strtok, what should I use? 22.07.34 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-26-89.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.07.43 # :) 22.07.51 # Hi Rockbox and all fans 22.07.54 # :) 22.08.03 # hi Tang 22.08.14 # Hi Quelsaruk 22.08.15 # :) 22.08.23 # :) 22.08.34 Nick Quelsaruk is now known as Quel|Dinner (~kvirc@80.103.128.173) 22.08.37 # So what abot the MPC licensing deal? 22.08.50 # (if not confidential of course) 22.19.04 Quit thegeek (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.19.55 # I think it turned out that it was in fact BSD licensed already 22.20.07 # "new" bsd, that is - which is perfectly fine 22.24.36 Join thegeek_ [0] (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 22.26.45 Quit Camilo (Remote closed the connection) 22.30.07 # yeps 22.30.29 # and Seed is a musepack devel 22.35.18 # yes 22.36.26 # Sorry i was away 22.36.43 # okay 22.36.47 # so it's cool 22.36.55 # there never was a problem 22.37.09 # there is no licensing impeachment for rockbox supporting mpc? 22.37.14 # no 22.38.37 # :) 22.38.39 # Very cool news 22.38.41 # :) 22.39.01 # May i ask something else? 22.40.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.40.26 # just ask, man 22.40.37 # i don't have anything better to do right now 22.40.37 # heh 22.41.03 # Thanks 22.41.10 # i read (with happiness) 22.41.14 # at HA 22.41.21 # that the wavpack author 22.41.29 # is collaborating with you 22.41.45 # however i ignore his wikiname 22.41.51 # yes, he mailed me 22.42.04 # Very cool too 22.42.06 # :) 22.42.28 # (he buoght an iHP too if i understood wel) 22.43.31 # yup 22.44.37 # Is him ChristianGemini? 22.44.53 # (who work on wvpck at codec section)? 22.44.57 # no 22.45.09 # i can't check right now, i'm in the middle of a linux upgrade 22.45.38 # how is that stopping you? (just curious) 22.45.55 # you try starting thunderbird when the system isn't fully upgraded 22.45.59 # i tried, and it looks funny 22.46.52 # interesting 22.46.55 # * rasher hugs mutt 22.47.41 # Ah okay i mistook 22.48.04 # ahh, i've got mutt 22.48.21 # david bryant 22.49.51 # preglow: links ;) 22.50.11 # yes, i know 22.50.37 # * Rick grins 22.53.19 # guess this concludes this successful evening 22.53.25 # later 22.53.35 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 22.54.18 Join geoff_o [0] (geoff@HSE-StCath-ppp252784.sympatico.ca) 22.54.43 Part geoff_o ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") 22.56.31 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 22.57.49 # Thnks preglow 22.58.09 # sorry i do'nt know how i did for not notice his wikiname 22.58.11 # anyone have experience with an ARM7 here? 22.58.32 # with regard to..? 22.59.19 # this guy seems to be confused between 2 codecs and I am not sure what he wants: 22.59.22 # http://www.musepack.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177 23.01.40 Quit Tang ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041108]") 23.02.27 # 45 mhz is not a lot 23.02.42 # indeed, no 23.02.44 # yes, but I'm not sure he knows libmusepack is for decoding .mpc files 23.02.51 # his post confuses me 23.03.46 # to me it looks like he wants *a* decoder 23.03.51 # i wonder how the instruction timing is for smlal and those guys 23.04.45 # Bagder: possibly, probably.. to have sound demoed at this party he's going to 23.04.59 # yes, that's how I interpret it 23.05.26 # I know my 68040 at 40 MHz can decode MPCs.. but then again, my Amiga had 114 MB of RAM and it's not limited to the FPU-less mode of the Dreamcast 23.08.56 # mpc isn't particularily cpu intensive, is it? 23.09.08 # it's just a subband coder 23.11.42 # yes 23.12.55 # but it's hard for me to speculate regarding a machine I'm not familiar with.. on a PocketPC (ARM) @ 400 Mhz, libmusepack offers 10x realtime playback. That does not say 40 MHz is enough for proper playback. There are many other variables in this equation 23.17.43 Quit Jyp ("poof!") 23.19.59 # helloooo 23.20.00 # o.o 23.20.34 # Hi HCl 23.25.21 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 23.30.07 Join edx [0] (edx@p54879EBC.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.30.13 # anyone know what's new in iRiver's new firmware? 23.30.27 # some recording stuff 23.30.37 # The version number? ;) 23.33.34 Join skav [0] (skav@67-138-74-184.dsl1.merch.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 23.34.13 # recording stuff it is 23.34.47 # * rasher promptly loses interest 23.41.01 Join DrRick [0] (DrRick@81-86-247-6.dsl.pipex.com) 23.41.03 # åøæøå 23.41.16 # what does those look like? 23.41.38 # like you don't use utf8 ;-) 23.41.57 # ahh, that's what i wanted to know 23.42.30 # just upgraded my ubuntu, gnome 2.10 feels pretty smooth 23.42.39 # default locale should be utf8, though 23.42.56 # Maybe you changed it? 23.43.08 # I'm pretty sure the default is 23.44.11 Join Domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@pD95F69FB.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.44.32 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7E86F.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.44.46 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.44.46 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7E86F.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.44.49 # wsfgl 23.44.53 # good job 23.45.09 # But yes, gnome 2.10 is fairly nice 23.45.23 # I keep coming back to Debian though 23.46.06 # xmms refuses to start :/ 23.46.26 # stop using it 23.46.27 # :) 23.46.40 # you got a better alternative? 23.46.44 # 'cause i'd switch in a jiffy 23.46.50 # i hate xmms 23.46.52 # depends on what you want really 23.46.56 # mpd is neato 23.46.59 # once you get into it 23.47.04 # i want something as foobar2000-ish as possible 23.47.12 # * Domonoky made a little game for Rockbox on iriver .. its not ready... but have a look :-) www.people.freenet.de/Domonoky/rocktron.rock 23.47.14 # mpd? 23.47.26 # It's a client-server thing 23.47.35 # server runs as a daemon, and clients attach to control it 23.47.45 # Domonoky: source please ;-) 23.47.54 # that sounds so incredibly unecessary 23.48.02 # I know 23.48.34 # but it works really well.. and well.. I like it 23.48.35 # i should clean up the sources,befor showing it someone.. :-) 23.49.01 # domonoky: you are now in violation of the GPL, go directly to jail, do not collect $100 23.49.02 # :) 23.49.17 # :-) 23.50.39 # what is the game? 23.50.55 # rasher: but ok, is it a major bother to set up? 23.50.59 # a Tron like game... you know tron ? 23.51.13 # preglow: in ubuntu - apt-get install mpd gmpc 23.51.18 # like worms, but you have to kill the other worms.. 23.51.38 # I know tron, but that line confused me 23.52.05 # preglow: but it may be to simple if you're looking for a "real" media player 23.52.14 # but.. choices never hurt 23.52.23 # if we have the remote working.. we make 2-player games :-) 23.52.33 # i don't give a shit, i want to play music, and i don't want an overly fancy ui 23.52.46 # gmpc is very clean, you may like it 23.53.05 # and there other clients available, though not a lot in debian/ubuntu 23.53.49 # rasher: how is he in violation of GPL? 23.54.19 # modifing without releasing the source but the binary.. 23.54.23 # ? 23.54.26 # you didn't start from scratch? 23.54.52 # He's hooking into Rockbox anyway 23.54.57 # it uses Rockbox.. 23.54.59 # it's the equivilent of a plugin 23.55.01 # no? 23.55.09 # plugins get contaminated 23.55.35 # I uh.. think 23.55.42 # I think it depends on how the plugin is built 23.55.43 # I mean 23.55.49 # you even are provided pointers to the rockbox functions 23.56.02 # which is plugin-esq 23.57.04 # I would understand it being GPL if you were including the actual rockbox code 23.57.12 # not just headers 23.58.18 # oh well 23.58.49 # well, it's up, i can't bloody select any songs