--- Log for 12.03.105 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 23 hours ago 00.00.06 # what is up? 00.00.07 # you add it to the playlist 00.00.09 # how do i play? gmpc doesn't list anything anywhere 00.00.19 # the playlist is very nonfunctional, all buttons are grayed out 00.00.21 # Rick: mpd 00.00.27 # preglow: hang on 00.00.32 # * Rick wonders what mpd is 00.00.38 # musicpd.org 00.00.42 # i've started mpd, i've added symlinks to /usr/share/mpd/music 00.01.02 # try going into the configuration and tell it to rebuild its database 00.01.08 # you recommended it, it's up to you to help me :P 00.01.26 # never mind me, man, i thought it autoconnected 00.01.30 # aah 00.01.35 # it can 00.02.26 # still doesn't list anything, though 00.02.42 # can you press the add button? 00.03.27 # actually, what doesn't list anything? Playlist or Song Browser? 00.03.37 # playlist 00.03.45 # bith 00.03.47 # both <- 00.03.53 # woop 00.03.55 # there it ame 00.03.56 # came <- 00.04.01 # hurray 00.04.01 # goddamn, butterfingers 00.04.42 # so it's working now? 00.04.51 # ok, so now i press play and it's supposed to make sound? 00.04.54 # i've got one track in the playlist 00.05.21 # does it appear to be playing? 00.05.23 # no 00.05.33 # not in the least 00.05.43 # weird 00.05.52 # uh.. and you have a song in the playlist? 00.05.57 # yes 00.06.00 # i can list metadata 00.06.13 # and "play" does nothing? 00.06.16 # rhythmbox works, so i have sound 00.06.18 # play does nothing 00.06.24 # hm... 00.06.41 # hmm, hang on, i think i've got a charset issue 00.06.47 # try 'mpc status' in a console 00.07.56 # i've got charset issues 00.08.06 # i'm playing off of ntfs, and the driver vomits on cp437 conversion 00.08.12 # ah 00.08.17 # god knows why it's converting to/from cp437 00.08.32 # god knows why you're playing off of ntfs 00.08.36 # sounds dirty 00.08.42 # i usually use windows 00.08.47 # ah 00.08.56 # fair enough 00.09.40 # are you playing from ntfs with rhythmbox as well? 00.09.41 # i fiddle around with sound a lot, and linux sucks shit in that area 00.10.19 # ah, I wouldn't know.. 00.10.30 # i can get sound working, but that's that 00.10.40 # the mixer is a nightmare, the best audio editor you have is audacity, which is shit 00.10.54 # audacity is indeed a crime 00.10.56 # you have clipping issues 00.11.13 # i need to adjust volume to 80% to avoid clipping 00.11.36 # could also be a driver issue 00.11.37 # alsa is a step in the right direction, though 00.11.43 # it is a driver issue, but a very common one 00.11.49 # excellent 00.13.14 # print $_ 00.13.49 # $_ :( 00.14.00 # $_ is pure evil 00.15.54 # AGHRGH 00.16.02 # i will KILL this piece of shit 00.17.25 # it wont play local files 00.17.36 # so the charset issue is not what's wrong 00.18.09 # weeeeeird 00.18.16 # did you reload the database? 00.18.16 # who the hell needs an audio server? 00.18.19 # i don't see the point 00.18.21 # yes 00.18.28 # it's listed, so it must have reloaded 00.18.58 # well 1) I like to be able to control the sound from another computer 2) it keeps playing while I restart X 3) it resumes playing after reboot 00.19.24 # fair enough 00.19.30 # but as I said, it is a pretty strange idea, and some people just don't like it 00.19.45 # it's not quite as stupid as videolan idea, but close 00.20.13 # i might have liked it, had it actually worked 00.20.18 # Heh 00.20.27 # what did 'mpc status' say? 00.23.50 # mpd status, you mean? 00.24.05 # problems opening file statuc for reading 00.24.13 # "mpc" doesn't exist 00.24.23 # oh right, that's in a seperate package 00.24.29 # problems opening file status... 00.24.30 # hrm 00.24.32 # hang on 00.24.44 # oh, I get the same here :-S 00.24.53 # probably not it then, irrelevant 00.24.59 # s/, irrelevant/ 00.25.54 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 00.28.42 # xmms started again, so i'm afraid i'll go the apt-get remove --purge route 00.28.47 # it's shit, but it works 00.28.50 # heh 00.30.19 # the "HOLD switch on, power off..." message sure is brief 00.30.23 # yup. 00.31.13 # hrm, it's probably a real problem that we can't read the buttons fast enough 00.31.23 # a short tap on play turns on the device even with hold on 00.31.46 # it does? 00.31.54 # yup 00.32.00 # * HCl goes to test 00.32.59 # time to go 00.33.00 # cu1º 00.33.05 Part Quel|Dinner ("So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!") 00.33.24 # another douglas-adams fans 00.33.29 # gee 00.33.30 # you're right 00.33.30 # fan. 00.33.55 # but thats a flaw in the bootloader, isn't it? 00.34.03 # shouldn't it check the hold button regardless of what was used to turn it on? 00.34.16 # but which hold button should it check? 00.34.31 # both? 00.34.49 # yeah but which should it react to? 00.34.57 # what do you mean? 00.35.03 # if either of the hold buttons is on, it shouldn't turn on 00.35.08 # Wrong 00.35.13 # ? 00.35.25 # if the main unit hold button is on and I use the remote to turn on the device, I want it to come up 00.35.55 # this way I can leave the unit in my pocket, with hold on, and still use the remote to turn on the device 00.36.05 # plus it "Makes Sense" that way 00.36.13 # it's also how the iRiver firmware works 00.36.17 # of course it does 00.36.20 # it has to be that way 00.36.27 # if not, you'd have to always have hold off on the unit itself 00.36.37 # and that does not make sense when you've got it in your pocket 00.36.42 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.36.45 # Indeed 00.37.16 # I wonder how iriver does this 00.37.20 # like that 00.37.32 # well how they manage to read the button status 00.37.33 # hrm... 00.37.46 # fast enough to react to the right hold switch 00.38.14 # ahh 00.38.25 # i don't know. 00.39.00 # I guess this is a question for linus 00.39.27 # preglow- read is CHAR. and if I shouldnt use strtok, what should I use? 00.39.37 # code it yourself 00.39.49 # i know read is CHAR, i just wanted to now what type CHAR is 00.39.56 # maybe its the sleep? 00.40.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.40.20 # it definetely is 00.40.21 # type? 00.41.21 # either way, i'm waiting for linus to add usb support to the bootloader 00.41.31 # that would be great, and allow recovery no matter what you do to it 00.41.52 # hrm 00.42.01 # does anyone know if the bootloader/bootinjecter works with the new firmware? 00.42.07 # you'd still need a way to stuff things in firmware 00.42.13 # thegeek_: hasn't been tested. 00.42.17 # kk;) 00.42.27 # guess that is a job for linus;) 00.42.39 # or for brave people. 00.42.43 # ;) 00.42.51 # s/brave/stupid/ 00.42.53 # brave/insane 00.42.54 # ;) 00.43.00 # hehe 00.43.08 # mmm, wasn't it you who flashed the first bootloader when nobody else but linus tested it yet, rasher? 00.43.15 # hehe 00.43.17 # * rasher looks the other way 00.43.50 # I wasn't really thinking :) 00.43.50 # :P 00.44.33 # no 00.44.38 # it was dmcj 00.44.42 # according to the logs 00.44.47 # oh, did you mean at first? 00.44.50 # then no, not me 00.44.54 # oh, ok :) 00.45.10 # we all sat squirming around like little girls with our players 00.45.15 # xD 00.45.16 # yes. 00.45.17 # then he jumped in, flashed, declared it a success 00.45.19 # I flashed with a cvs version a couple of days ago when nobody had built a bootloader for a while 00.45.25 # and then i flashed mine, and nearly cried 00.45.28 # and i remember all the h120 people going "ohno! i bricked it!" 00.45.38 # because they had to recalc fsinfo and didn't know :p 00.45.41 # haha, yes 00.45.47 # well it wasn't bricked 00.45.51 # indeed, no 00.45.53 # but it seemed like it 00.46.00 # the first 10 seconds did 00.46.04 # no 00.46.05 # several minutes 00.46.12 # mine fscalced for about four minutes 00.46.15 # yeah but, reset worked and brought up iriver firmware 00.46.20 # ahh, yes 00.46.34 # :p 00.46.38 # the cookie magic did its job very well 00.46.41 # but i was the second to flash it, so i was quick to conclude that my player was destroyed 00.46.44 # heh 00.46.46 # yup 00.46.48 # * HCl grins :) 00.47.32 # so rockbox is up to 9 languages now 00.48.03 # i only flashed it after someone with an h140 confirmed it working 00.48.05 # rasher: Your language 'hitlist' looks good 00.48.20 # argh, I want my iriver back;) 00.48.21 # i always hate flashing 00.48.22 # I have the script tagged onto the end of the ifle now 00.48.25 # slow ass repair shit 00.48.27 # regardless of what i'm flashing 00.48.30 # http://zork.net/~rasher/langstatus.txt 00.48.35 # i think i'm only safe with flashing my pda 00.48.39 # it's fairly crude 00.48.42 # because it can be easily recovered from a bad flash 00.49.15 # iPods are fairly safe to flash 00.49.22 # sweet zombie jesus, bash scripts are so ugly 00.49.32 # Quiet you 00.49.40 # preglow, time to move to a real language then 00.49.52 # Camilo: well, i did recommend him perl more than one time 00.50.00 # I do perl 00.50.05 # all Men do perl 00.50.15 # * preglow cuddles perl 00.50.39 # the equivalent perl script would have been far worse! 00.50.47 # and two lines 00.50.49 # no way rasher 00.51.06 # no way, it'd include horrible www client stuff 00.51.55 # but feel free to rewrite it, the logic is in the awk script and should translate pretty easily to perl 00.53.05 # www client stuff in perl = easy 00.53.24 Quit DrRick () 00.53.25 # can call wget just as easily from that in any case 00.53.27 # but anywho 00.53.36 # ew 00.53.44 # I hate calling outside programs 00.53.52 # in perl it's easy 00.53.55 # except in shell, because well.. that's what you do there 00.54.00 # `wget blabla`; 00.54.09 # but it's ... dirty 00.54.17 # not really, it's a part of the language 00.54.22 # preglow, thought you were wgetting labia for a second there 00.54.25 # you can even capture the output just like in a shell script 00.54.44 # Camilo: hahahah, i don't think wget can do that 00.54.55 # if only, eh 00.54.56 # I know this, it just irks me to do it 00.55.38 # I'd rather use lwp to download a file than call wget 00.55.54 # i wouldn't, not in a fast job like that 00.56.10 # I guess I have an irrational fear of calling something external 00.58.06 # * rasher ponders a web-interface to translating 00.58.24 # codec api!!!!!11!!11!11oneone 00.58.35 # probably too much work for too little gain 00.58.42 # preglow: ? 00.58.47 # work on that :) 00.59.12 # You must be mistaking me for someone with a clue 01.00.25 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 01.01.46 # you go work on it 01.03.36 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050309]") 01.07.28 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-119-49.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.12.19 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 01.20.04 # I added a table on the HowtoUpdateLangfile wikipage 01.20.10 # with current status 01.21.20 # with a little luck it'll encourage someone to fix a language 01.26.53 Quit cYmen ("zZz") 01.54.31 # * preglow plays super mario land 01.55.01 Join mecraw [0] (fwuser@69.2.235.2) 01.57.36 # hee 02.01.23 # showed my flatmate rockboy yesterday 02.01.28 # he nearly crapped his pants laughing 02.03.28 # haha 02.09.06 # how's the optimizing coming along? 02.10.55 # slow 02.11.04 # just imdct_l left in libmad 02.11.08 # but that's big 02.11.20 # that is, i've done it, but it didn't turn out very elegant 02.11.26 # so i'll have to do it again 02.12.13 # well that's still pretty great progress 02.12.57 # now if only a codecapi appeared... 02.14.45 # great and great 02.14.58 # it's adequate, but i haven't got much time to work on it right now 02.15.30 # but yes, it's not like it's going to have to make sound any time soon, so i'm in no rush 02.15.59 # well isn't it "ready" already? 02.16.52 # as in how? 02.17.10 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 02.17.13 # in that it runs at >100% 02.17.19 # sure, it's well above that 02.17.28 # it's above 200% for some files 02.17.30 Quit Strath (Nick collision from services.) 02.17.34 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 02.19.11 # is there much else left, except optimizing and hooking it up to the codecapi? 02.19.26 # nah 02.19.38 # optimizing and more optimizing 02.19.47 # :-) 02.20.08 # libmad can take loads more optimizing, i guess, i've just picked out the obvious routines 02.20.25 # then there's libflac, which i don't think i'll touch too much more 02.20.34 # and then i plan to unleash my mighty powers on tremor 02.22.07 # once it starts making sound, i plan to start coding dsp stuff 02.22.37 # like an equalizer and some other stuff 02.22.52 Join XShocK [0] (~XShocK@pcp09492659pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 02.22.59 # fun 02.23.02 # deed 02.23.09 # that was what i originally wanted to do 02.23.16 # i don't quite remember how i ended up optimizing codecs 02.23.16 # haha 02.24.39 # how is the progress with sound framework? 02.25.20 # there is none 02.25.58 # linus is up to his armpits in real life and no one else seems to work on it 02.28.50 # very pitty 02.29.04 # since mostly evetything is done for it. 02.29.57 # well, how does it work right now? 02.30.30 # no. i mean parts are done. codecs and low-levelstuff. but nothing in between them 02.31.11 # ahh, yes 02.31.25 # and i really have no idea how to tie it together 02.31.36 # linuxstb and zagor said they'd look at the codec layer, but both vanished 02.34.50 # 'tis tragic 02.35.04 # guess I might as well sleep now 02.35.07 # night 02.35.10 # yes, me as well 02.36.22 # gnight 02.36.28 # good night 02.36.36 Quit preglow ("quite") 02.37.50 Quit rasher ("sleep") 02.39.14 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 02.39.20 Quit XShocK (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC") 02.40.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.08.52 Quit Soul_Eater (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.48.07 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 03.57.36 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.00.44 Join Cassandra [0] (~christi@213.78.161.127) 04.05.23 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.17.50 Quit QT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.40.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.48.54 Join stevenm [0] (~steve@181-170.mam.umd.edu) 05.16.23 Quit skav () 05.51.41 Join Soul_Eater [0] (~faccess@pcp04474086pcs.brmngh01.mi.comcast.net) 05.55.10 Quit stevenm ("Leaving") 05.58.14 Join midk [0] (midk@c-67-161-124-8.client.comcast.net) 06.11.19 Join bagawk [0] (Lee@bagawk.user) 06.26.39 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 06.40.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.04.51 # sup fools 08.11.26 # the sky 08.11.27 # ;P 08.23.08 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 08.25.41 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-13.dynamic.qsc.de) 08.25.42 Join NibbIer [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-13.dynamic.qsc.de) 08.25.45 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.26.00 Nick NibbIer is now known as Nibbler (~sven@port-212-202-73-13.dynamic.qsc.de) 08.40.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.48.15 Quit edx () 09.11.52 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~none@Acec3.a.pppool.de) 09.21.15 # Does anybody know wether the current build of rockbox for the recorder (v1) already has grown to exceed the max size for rombox? 09.21.43 # No. Rombox works just fine, even for the v2 09.22.07 # darn. With triggered recording it _does_ exceed the limit :( 09.23.15 # So what did you do then!!? That means triggered recording adds >4 KByte of code 09.24.04 # It's quite a bunch of menues and the trigger code is not as simple as you might think at first glance. 09.25.35 # Output is 1868 bytes larger than max (192496) 09.26.59 # Huh? Thats 10 KB more than cvs! 09.27.20 # That strikes me. It's not _that_ much code. 09.28.09 # Rombox for the v2 is really tight atm, ~380 bytes left. For the v1, ~9600 bytes are left 09.29.23 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@pD9E5CDB7.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.29.45 # kurzhaarrocker: What gcc do you use? (sh-elf-gcc that is)? 09.29.56 # shelf ? 09.30.23 # v 3.0.4 09.31.09 # Ah, maybe this explains the huge difference 09.31.24 # Use 3.3.x 09.31.46 # It builds the most compact code. Both 3.0.x and 3.4.x are significantly worse 09.32.31 # Maybe I'll upgrade somewhen but not now. For the moment I can live with builds that are too big for rombox. 09.36.52 # Using cygwin? 09.37.00 # yes 09.38.10 # Then this upgrade should be easy. Eric Lassauge has sh-elf-gcc 3.3.5 availabe at his site, usable as a cygwin install mirror. Also Bluechip upgraded his devkit recently 09.39.29 # Thanks for the hint 09.45.24 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.53.23 Quit Patr3ck () 09.54.35 Join Cassandra [0] (~christi@213.78.99.102) 10.19.12 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~none@Acec6.a.pppool.de) 10.26.50 Join T0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 10.26.51 # hi 10.37.19 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.37.35 Nick langhaarrocker is now known as kurzhaarrocker (~none@Acec6.a.pppool.de) 10.38.11 Quit midk ("Leaving") 10.40.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.46.58 Quit Tipi^ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10.51.59 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~none@Aceed.a.pppool.de) 10.53.35 # programming is easy - its cleaning the code and building the patch that always consumes so much time... 10.54.45 # :) 10.56.03 # I only partly agree 10.57.03 # Most of the time, getting the things working at all is the hard part. If you got them working, improving is much easier 10.57.28 # yes, getting cvs diff to work was the hard part for today :) 10.59.02 # Really? 10.59.48 # I originally checked out using tortoise cvs. That results all files in CVS directories have cr + lf. Unfortunately you can't make tortoise cvs diff with -b option. And command line cvs diff -ub doesn't like cr + lf in the CVS control files. 11.01.29 # Another reason against using tortoise... I never used it; only know it from screenshots 11.02.02 # You _can_ make tortoise cvs use lf only - but you have to tell it explicitly. 11.05.12 # I always use cvs diff -u only. Why would you need -b ? 11.05.44 Join jyp [0] (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 11.07.27 # there were many line endings that had additional spaces at the end. Somehow they dissappeared in my source. But I don't want to make the diff unreadable because uncountable changes that I didn't really make. 11.08.00 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.08.25 # Hmm, okay. I only encountered this for very few lines so far. 11.08.37 # My editor always cuts all trailing space 11.09.00 # hi jyp 11.09.12 # hey 11.09.29 # Gmini 1xx/sp has a 2.5" hd, correct? 11.09.32 # Bad things I've done again? 11.09.37 # phew ;) 11.09.50 # yes I believe so 11.10.05 # but I'm no expert in those matters 11.10.18 # You don't have a gmini? ;) 11.10.42 # I barely know how long an inch is :=) 11.11.11 # Hmm. The reason why I ask is that I am still puzzled about the display size. 11.11.45 # For the win32 simulator, I made the image roughly the same size as the archos recorders, because they also use 2.5" hds 11.12.32 # However, in order to do that, I had to scale up the lcd by a factor of 1.5 11.13.10 # That means the gmini lcd has significantly larger pixels than the recorder lcd 11.13.15 # I don't really get your point... 11.13.22 # connection between lcd & hd? 11.13.35 # Never tried the win32 sim? 11.14.03 # The win32 sims use a photo of the device front (plus side parts if there are buttons) as a background image 11.14.53 # No, I'm not into win32 really ... 11.14.58 # Okay. 11.15.30 # So that's the connection - the backgroud pic is roughly the size of the hdd, and then the lcd is in correct scale 11.17.58 # patch uploaded - lets see wether someone cares. 11.18.02 # So long 11.18.08 # ok, i see 11.19.05 # If you want to compare sizes there's a pretty much exhaustive gallery here: 11.19.18 # http://www.donat.org/archos/dissection.html 11.20.43 # Grr, thats The Bad Domain. Can't connect to it... 11.21.24 # oh yeah... 11.21.42 # I'm using the coral proxy : 11.21.59 # donat.org.nyud.net:8090 11.22.19 # hm, for some reason I can't access it either right now 11.34.59 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 11.35.28 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 11.36.38 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 11.40.25 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.50.24 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~none@Acecd.a.pppool.de) 11.53.31 # Anyone here know the songdb code? 11.54.19 # I'm pondering the idea of using it to implement a "play a random track anywhere on the Jukebox" feature. 11.56.02 # (I know you can do this with playlists, but this way generalises usefully - you can re-use the code to do "play random tracks by this artist/from this album etc. 11.56.11 Quit jyp ("poof!") 12.01.57 # Cassandra: I'm afraid the only one who really knows the songdb code is Zagor 12.02.29 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.11.10 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~none@dialin-145-254-095-171.arcor-ip.net) 12.12.42 # Hi. I'm convinced that I managed to build a tag database. Hitting F2 shows me an empty browser though. Where is the rockbox.id3db supposed to be so that rockbox finds it? 12.13.27 # Stick it in /.rockbox 12.13.54 # that's where it is 12.14.17 # Ah, seems a reboot of rockbox fixed it :) 12.14.29 # Cassandra: There would be one random mode that would be interesting (for me) and that's not available in rockbox yet, even with playlists: Randomly select an album and then play this album in sequence 12.16.07 # Thanks for the help. 12.20.06 # (album == folder for me, so this mode wouldn't even require songdb) 12.20.22 Quit Heidel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.22.28 # Hm.. Anybody here know's the ipod notes format? 12.27.57 Join DrRick [0] (DrRick@81-86-231-250.dsl.pipex.com) 12.28.39 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.40.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.56.07 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 12.59.01 Quit DrRick () 13.03.57 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~Joerg@pD9E34F17.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.09.24 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.13.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi guys! 13.13.15 # hi 13.13.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi amiconn, long not chatted 13.13.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> did you see my CeBIT appearance? 13.14.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> (me briefly popping in on thursday afternoon) 13.14.45 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~none@dialin-145-254-099-150.arcor-ip.net) 13.15.59 # Read it in the logs 13.16.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> ok 13.16.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> so, I think we'll have it in a few 13.17.07 # You can always do a quick visit at CeBIT, unlike me... 13.17.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> a quick visit is EUR 37 13.17.43 # Yeah, but not several hours of travel 13.18.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> it takes me ~1 hour to get there 13.18.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> from Berlin, you may make it in 2 13.18.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> iirc 13.18.29 # Haha, good joke 13.18.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> if you live at bahnhof zoo ;-) 13.19.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> different subject: i removed the mmc panic 13.20.04 # Normally the ICE manages to get from Berlin to Hanover in ~2 hours, but then I first need to get to one of the 3 stations in Berlin where it departs, and after ~2 hours I'm at Hannover Hauptbahnhof. Still some time necessary to get south... 13.20.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> with bogus partition table, it's trying some wild mounts 13.20.23 # Yes, saw that 13.20.44 # You mentioned there are still problems though? 13.20.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> maybe this was trevors problem 13.21.32 # I don't think so... he reported a panic when trying to read sector 0... iirc 13.22.01 # Furthermore, when he deactivates multivolume and hotswap, it works 13.22.53 Join [IDC]Dragon2 [0] (~Joerg@pD9E34F17.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.23.03 # <[IDC]Dragon2> (I coded a return without releasing the mutex) 13.23.23 # <[IDC]Dragon2> wlan dropouts 13.23.35 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.26.57 Join [IDC]Dragon3 [0] (~Joerg@pD9E34F17.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.27.10 # How many Dragons.... 13.27.24 # <[IDC]Dragon3> too many 13.27.33 # There is one minor issue with your change - the error return value is ambiguous 13.27.49 # <[IDC]Dragon3> ah, ok, I didn't check for such 13.28.00 # at_mmc.c doesn't use the mutliply-by-10-and-add-own scheme 13.29.14 # <[IDC]Dragon3> yet 13.29.54 # <[IDC]Dragon3> did you contact trevor for a 0308? 13.29.58 # Imho this would be problematic. Instead I assigned an individual error value to each possible problem 13.30.11 # (raning from -1 to -13 so far iirc) 13.30.15 # *ranging 13.30.35 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@83.69.98.116) 13.30.36 # <[IDC]Dragon3> ok, so off limit could be -14 13.33.44 # <[IDC]Dragon3> correction: -15 13.33.53 # <[IDC]Dragon3> I'll commit it 13.35.12 # <[IDC]Dragon3> lunchtime 13.35.29 Quit [IDC]Dragon2 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.38.50 Quit [IDC]Dragon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.43.38 # hm... I'm on winXP here... but how do I build the simulator? 13.43.42 # there are no doc's yet? 13.51.11 # You build it the same way as the target, using cygwin for doing this on windows. Simply select (S)imulator in configure, and the (W)in32 if you want the windows simulator 13.51.36 # Yeah tried that... 13.51.51 # screens.c:860: error: conflicting types for `set_time_screen' 13.51.51 # settings.h:323: error: previous declaration of `set_time_screen' 13.51.51 # make[1]: *** [/home/guest/rockbox-devel/build/screens.o] Error 1 13.53.24 # any suggestions? 13.53.24 # Huh? Hmm, I have no idea what may cause this. Works perfectly here. Unfortunately I have to go now... 13.53.39 # hm... I'll search the file.. 13.55.50 # One suggestion though: try updating your cygwin installation (if it's really old, that is). Make sure you use a native gcc 3.3.x 13.56.03 # gcc -v should tell you 13.58.01 Join Heidel [0] (~h@pD953098C.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.00.10 Join Tipi^ [0] (~tipi@adsl-38.166-DynIP.ssp.fi) 14.00.10 # Yeah... I installed the Devkit for windows.. 14.01.05 # hm... it looks like the new cvs build is working... not finished yet... but it's past the previous error... 14.07.25 # hm 14.07.30 # little error in the make install 14.07.43 # rockbox-devel/tools/buildzip.pl 14.07.47 # line 88 and 89 14.08.01 # opendir(DIR, "$ROOT/fonts") || die "can't open dir fonts"; 14.08.04 # should be: 14.08.06 # opendir(DIR, "$ROOT/firmware/fonts") || die "can't open dir fonts"; 14.08.11 # and 89: 14.08.19 # my @fonts = grep { /\.bdf$/ && -f "$ROOT/fonts/$_" } readdir(DIR); 14.08.23 # should be: 14.08.24 # my @fonts = grep { /\.bdf$/ && -f "$ROOT/firmware/fonts/$_" } readdir(DIR); 14.08.39 # so in both change $ROOT/fonts/$_ with $ROOT/firmware/fonts/$_ 14.08.56 # maybe someone can verify it? and change it? 14.12.30 # hrm. fonts don't get checked out into firmware/ 14.12.56 # (at least, i was told to check them out in the root. 14.15.02 Quit [IDC]Dragon3 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it") 14.21.02 Quit R3nTiL () 14.24.06 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 14.40.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.44.15 # ashridah: I did: cvs checkout rockbox-devel 14.44.29 # and they got into ./rockbox-devel/firmware/fonts 14.44.39 # so maybe the rockbox-devel checkout is wrong... 14.45.11 # * T0mas is leaving.. 14.45.14 Quit T0mas ("c ya later") 15.04.19 Quit rasher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.32.48 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 15.43.58 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 15.45.15 # damn cgi:irc didnt tell me I had been disconnected 15.51.42 Join Cassandra_ [0] (~christi@213.78.122.181) 15.52.30 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.01.34 Join qlb212 [0] (~53982607@labb.contactor.se) 16.03.52 Join rot13 [0] (~blue-fuz@cm129.omega172.maxonline.com.sg) 16.09.43 Quit qlb212 ("CGI:IRC") 16.10.21 Join Stu3__ [0] (~Stu3@203-206-51-253.dyn.iinet.net.au) 16.18.01 # does anyone know if we can distribute rockbox binaries containing an aac decoder legally? 16.18.44 # we can't even distribute an mp3 decoder can we? 16.19.11 # I mean, isn't the attitude basically that patent problems are more or less ignored? 16.19.22 # because they're so DAMN STUPID 16.19.37 # that depends 16.19.50 # is the mp3 license iriver bought transfered with the player? 16.20.25 # I'm guessing that the license is tied to the decoder 16.20.29 # i also think frauenhofer have puclicly stated they will not charge for personal use 16.20.50 # I think that was ages ago, and no longer stands, but I'm not sure 16.20.58 # i don't think so 16.21.09 # okay 16.21.14 # but i'm not sure 16.21.29 # what, so if they've got two separate decoders, they need to pay two fees? 16.21.44 # heh, I don't know.. I'm guessing 16.25.04 # it just seems "too easy" if you could just transfer the mp3 decoder license 16.25.35 # the cynic in me tells me that it's not possible 16.28.43 # sure, i know what i believe, but i prefer facts 16.28.51 # especially if we ever plan on releasing it 16.30.17 # I wonder how things like gstreamer (that plays aac doesn't it?) stand on this 16.30.28 # well it plays mp3 anyway 16.38.08 # <_Lucretia_> how big is the compiled firmware at present? 16.38.32 # you probably need to be more specific 16.38.39 # which firmware, for which device? 16.38.47 # <_Lucretia_> ok, is it possible to get it down below a meg? 16.38.59 # <_Lucretia_> Well, I'm currently working with the Gmini guys 16.39.09 # <_Lucretia_> but for an unsupported target (MT-500) 16.39.34 # * _Lucretia_ was just wondering ;-) 16.40.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.40.40 Quit Schee (Connection timed out) 16.40.56 # have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RomBox 16.42.27 Join Schee [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-8-38.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.46.36 # below a meg should be very doable, if you drop some codecs 16.50.27 # <_Lucretia_> how many are there? Eventually, the only ones, I'm interested in are MP3 and OGG 16.51.37 # right now, five 16.51.43 # with more lined up 16.51.59 # <_Lucretia_> ah 16.58.59 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 17.09.35 Join ze [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-205-231.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 17.10.26 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD{}@JRAF.org) 17.10.33 # Hello friends ! 17.14.20 Join SirWA2 [0] (SirWA2@f246074.upc-f.chello.nl) 17.15.44 # hello 17.15.53 # need a little help. 17.16.19 Join Renko [0] (~Renko@host217-43-59-57.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) 17.16.26 # my display is broke, but the system is in upsidedown mode 17.16.50 # maybe someone can help me navigate to fix it? 17.23.56 # which device? 17.26.15 # jukebox recorder 17.32.09 # can't help much, sorry.. I don't have that.. and no simulator here.. 17.34.59 # ow, simulator, what a great idee...didnt think of that.. 17.35.01 # tnx 17.35.17 # :) 17.36.41 Quit Ka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.37.38 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010733332pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 17.39.23 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 17.40.26 Join jyp [0] (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 17.40.35 Quit jyp (Client Quit) 17.44.27 # it scares me everytime I see a skynet.be hostmask... 17.46.43 # duno about that 17.48.38 # rasher: afraid you'll see cyborgs smashing your door in? 17.48.53 # something like that, yes 18.07.31 # :)) 18.18.45 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@83.69.98.99) 18.36.31 Quit R3nTiL () 18.39.27 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 18.40.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.52.25 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 18.52.46 Quit Soul_Eater ("http://deadsocket.virtualave.net") 18.54.09 Quit Aison (Connection timed out) 19.00.35 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 19.13.42 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 19.22.56 Quit Renko (Remote closed the connection) 19.29.02 Quit Aison (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.31.41 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 19.39.16 Join Domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@pD95F6F70.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.48.21 Join jyp [0] (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 19.49.53 Quit Aison (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.07.15 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 20.10.34 Quit Aison (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.11.07 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 20.25.27 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-159-252.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 20.31.50 # sup? 20.36.11 Quit Stu3__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.40.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.54.30 Quit preglow ("leaving") 20.55.26 Join ScHlAuChi [0] (ScHlAuChi@69.156.161.47) 20.56.54 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 20.56.59 # åæø 20.57.03 # did i just spout utf8? 20.59.38 Join F1^Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 21.04.15 Nick F1^Aison is now known as Aison` (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 21.05.18 # i'll be back, bye 21.05.18 Part BoD[] 21.09.30 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 21.09.44 # preglow: looks like it in the dailylog 21.09.47 # æøå 21.10.04 # yup, you did 21.10.59 # eeeexcellent 21.16.20 Quit Aison (Connection refused) 21.18.08 Quit jyp ("poof!") 21.24.00 Quit preglow ("leaving") 21.24.24 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 21.28.03 Join jyp [0] (~jp@133-210.243.81.adsl.skynet.be) 21.40.08 Quit Domonoky ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 21.42.21 Join Domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@pD95F6F70.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.48.41 Quit Cassandra_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.51.47 Join Cassandra_ [0] (~christi@213.78.116.182) 21.53.41 # o.o 21.53.52 # ohno! its me! o.o. 21.54.00 # quiet 21.54.08 # hi rasher :3 21.54.17 # sup? 22.05.57 # absolutely nothing 22.08.05 Join DrRick [0] (DrRick@81-86-231-250.dsl.pipex.com) 22.20.28 # why are there no ops here? 22.20.51 # cause we don't need any.... 22.21.15 # lol sure. 22.31.15 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 22.38.41 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050309]") 22.40.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.51.15 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 22.53.09 # screen = best thing since sliced bread 22.54.36 Quit DrRick () 23.09.35 # screen? 23.09.41 # oh, nevermind 23.09.42 # lol 23.18.49 Quit jyp ("poof!") 23.45.03 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD95D1CA3.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.45.12 # yawn 23.53.31 Quit amiconn (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.53.31 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD95D1CA3.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.54.59 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com)