--- Log for 15.03.105 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 23 hours ago 00.00.00 # and with cedega, if you report the problems, they'll actually attempt to fix them 00.00.02 # style 00.00.24 # I don't have checked if it's now supproted 00.00.31 Quit midk_ ("Leaving") 00.00.34 # but since my windows disk died 00.00.36 # i am running windows for gaming now though. wine is good, but not perfect. some games wont work 00.00.41 # I have lost my savegames :-/ 00.00.50 # ouch 00.00.56 # i swear i lose my bookmarks like 3 times a year 00.01.09 # yay, gcc4.0 including Fortran95 support :-> 00.01.32 # mirak: Show me the equivalent of RDP on linux ;) 00.01.55 Join DrRick [0] (DrRick@81-86-77-240.dsl.pipex.com) 00.02.10 Nick DrRick is now known as DrRickDaglessMD (DrRick@81-86-77-240.dsl.pipex.com) 00.02.12 # amiconn: eh? 00.02.17 # amiconn: you mean.. like.. http://www.rdesktop.org/? 00.02.18 # or vnc? 00.02.19 # or..? 00.02.38 # I mean RDP, remote desktop. And not only the client side. 00.02.50 # then say what you mean. 00.02.54 # I use rdp very often 00.02.57 # NVC? 00.03.08 # VNC even 00.03.17 # vnc works well. not as well as rdp, but it gets the job done 00.03.31 # VNC is tad slow compared to RDP 00.03.34 # also plain X works great in a lan 00.03.36 Part Bluechip 00.03.39 # its a less efficient protocol 00.03.42 # (vnc is, that is) 00.03.55 # tvelocity[away]: X is not comparable with RDP 00.03.56 # plain x is dreamy 00.04.06 # With X, my session dies when I disconnect 00.04.26 # then use VNC 00.04.41 # With RDP, I can start to work, disconnect, reconnect to my session from anywhere else and continue where I left off 00.04.50 # i actually know more people that use VNC (on windows) than RDP 00.04.51 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 00.04.59 # tvelocity[away]: That's no real alternative 00.05.06 # VNC is simply way too slow 00.05.17 # its a viable alternative for all sorts of people 00.05.20 # perhaps not _for you_ 00.05.24 # but yes, it is. 00.05.25 # RDP even works over ISDN or modem. No way with VNC 00.05.37 # amiconn: NX 00.05.45 # nx does look interesting 00.05.45 # (I mean, works as in being usable for actual work)+ 00.05.51 # I use NX 00.05.59 # this really works 00.06.00 # it work well? 00.06.01 # i USE VNC on ISDN 00.06.02 # cool 00.06.06 # even on a 56k line it's usable 00.06.14 # that's incredible 00.06.27 # this have nothing to do with VNC 00.06.35 # that's uncomparable 00.06.56 # amiconn: the NX client support RDP by the way 00.08.25 # tvelocity[away]: vnc is horrible 00.08.53 # could rockbox work on the iPod ? 00.09.05 # i don't see why RDP is better 00.09.14 # NX costs money... Now tell me why I should buy it when I can have RDP for free (WinXP came bundled with my laptop) 00.09.41 # amiconn: it doesnt cost money 00.09.49 # NX is Free. 00.09.51 # amiconn: /join #NX 00.09.58 # NX is gpl 00.10.02 # nxserver 00.10.09 # only the client is closed source 00.10.11 # rdp on the other hand... 00.10.14 # but there is alternatives 00.10.20 # Hmm, maybe I found the wrong site 00.10.25 # anyway the nxclient is free 00.10.38 # amiconn: nomachine nxclient is good 00.10.42 # and free 00.10.47 # amiconn: the people who made it are trying to make money in some way 00.10.48 # I mean free of charge 00.10.57 # afaik 00.11.11 # but a Free version is available 00.11.13 # they are doing like cedega 00.11.34 # it's the same model than cedega in fact 00.14.00 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 00.16.22 # heh 00.17.18 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.205) 00.18.42 # mrf 00.18.42 # well. 00.18.45 # me go sleep. 00.18.47 # and stuff. 00.18.59 # HCl->sleep_and_dream_happy_things(); 00.24.28 # sleep... and stuff? 00.24.36 # ;) 00.24.52 # ? o.o. 00.25.09 # well, i gotta brush my teeth and get in bed and o.o. 00.25.20 # eat candy and drink some water and then go sleep :x 00.25.37 # suuuuureeee 00.26.04 Quit Renko (Remote closed the connection) 00.26.37 # o.o 00.27.03 # hm.. this is pretty bad chicken.. 00.32.04 Join geoff_o [0] (geoff@HSE-StCath-ppp253322.sympatico.ca) 00.32.20 # Does anyone working on Rockbox live in Spain? 00.33.14 # * rasher . o O ( worldmap of rockbox developers ) 00.33.50 # Yeah.. thankfully geography isn't normally an issue. 00.35.33 # I know someone in spain with a broken mp3 player. If there's someone with access to an electronics lab nearby, it might be worth trying to read the firmware directly from its chips. 00.35.51 Quit DrRickDaglessMD () 00.36.05 # (Failing that, there's always overseas shipping.) 00.37.05 # what'd he do? 00.37.11 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.37.16 # Insert the battery backwards. 00.37.28 # * geoff_o guesses the magic smoke escaped 00.37.38 # oh. right. 00.37.42 # what kind of player is it? 00.37.46 # * HCl assumed iriver, but obviously. 00.38.01 # iFP195 00.39.07 # http://www.iriver.com/html/product/prpa_product.asp?pidx=38 00.39.42 # * rasher dares not click iriver.com links 00.40.28 # * geoff_o comforts rasher "there, there.." 00.41.06 # it is truly the website from hell 00.41.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.41.56 # It's very heavy in (flash/java/something evil-that-still-runs-in-firefox-linux).. and I end up using the 'sitemap' to navigate. 00.43.12 # flash 00.59.24 # Hm. 00.59.27 # Still here? 00.59.45 # I'm just resting my eyes! I swear! 00.59.47 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 00.59.57 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 01.00.11 # oops. 01.00.16 # Poink. 01.00.45 # debian net install takes some time... 01.00.57 # depending on your network connection 01.01.09 # 1 MBit/s 01.01.39 # lucky bastard 01.03.24 # * rasher moves gigabytes data over windows networking 01.03.37 # * rasher cries and cries 01.04.32 # oh haha.. maybe if it wasn't over wifi... 01.05.27 # You think you have it bad? I'm calling from a payphone and my voice is about to give out! 01.09.19 # and here I just bothered to connect my laptop with utp 01.09.48 # and then the other laptop is using wifi.. 01.11.27 # silly me 01.11.47 # 11mbps is so painful 01.12.11 # it's like going back to 1996 01.17.43 Join bagawk [0] (Lee@bagawk.user) 01.23.03 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 01.24.01 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 01.40.42 Quit bagawk ("Leaving") 01.48.35 Quit DMJC ("Leaving") 01.49.39 Quit Aison (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.50.10 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 01.54.00 Join Bippy [0] (~5198272e@labb.contactor.se) 01.54.36 Join H120Owner [0] (~acca2878@labb.contactor.se) 01.55.22 # i saw on the wiki that MP3 and OGG play but i couldn't get iRiver Rockbox to play a file 01.55.53 # You must've misread, or not read close enough. 01.56.01 # why? 01.56.06 # It *decodes* mp3 and ogg 01.56.17 # it doesn't get played yet 01.56.30 # Which player do you own? 01.56.35 # because the internal structure/buffering/etc is not in place yet 01.56.52 # have an H120 01.57.21 # oooo yellowstone has started to change 01.57.31 # so right now the codecs just output to a file 01.57.40 # rl.. ttyl. 01.57.42 Part geoff_o ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") 01.57.46 # so the codecs output to a wav file? 01.57.50 # * rasher adds a clarification to the wiki 01.58.04 # Yup 01.58.47 # can wav files be played? 01.59.00 # Still a no :) 01.59.37 # man the iriver f/w would be so cool if shuffle worked like its supposed to 01.59.40 # Rockbox is useless to end users at the moment fullstop, just wait it out 01.59.49 # Though possible, this hasn't entered cvs because it will have to be connected to the codec api 02.00.00 # which isn't done 02.00.04 # or started 02.00.27 # Go start it now then, you might have it done by tommorow 02.00.47 # :X 02.00.54 # :| 02.01.02 # I'm not complaining, just explaining, in case that wasn't clear 02.02.14 # :| im not complaining either, i dont know how to code firmware 02.02.55 # The codec api would be a pure C job 02.04.03 # i can study a volcano if that helps :) 02.04.34 # Hah 02.04.51 # ? 02.05.37 # Just amused :) 02.06.49 # How come, being a Volcanologist is great 02.07.25 # But it doesn't exactly help.. just the way you said it 02.08.35 # well, if you live near a volcanoe, i could tell you when or if its likley to erupt 02.08.44 # that could help 02.09.34 # True.. Denmark isn't exactly known for seismic (do volcanoes go under that as well?) activity though :) 02.11.16 # Volcanoes go under seismic measurements yes 02.11.23 Quit Aison (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.12.07 Quit Camilo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.12.18 # Mainly due to eruptions can be caused by quakes 02.12.39 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 02.13.29 # They can break the crust and increase thermal activity 02.17.52 # shouldn't happen anywhere near northern europe :) 02.18.05 # Anyway, im off now, stay away from YellowStone, i heard reports of large magma movement, which isnt always good, especially when the caldera is so thin 02.18.48 # :-\ 02.19.06 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 02.19.10 # How long do you think the F/W will take now, dont say when its ready, everything has an estimate 02.19.47 # it's very hard to tell 02.20.12 # whenever someone starts working on the codec api 02.20.26 # When will that happen 02.20.52 # it would probably get into a useable (in a loose sense of that word) shape pretty fast 02.21.03 # 3 months ? 02.21.13 # Noone knows.. the two people who said they're going to work on it are currently awol 02.21.38 # I'd say probably less than 3 months at least 02.21.47 # but this is coming from a non-dev, mind 02.22.02 # ok then 02.22.28 # Well im off, ill pop in again sometime 02.22.31 Quit Bippy ("CGI:IRC") 02.22.35 # So this is mine and just my opinion 02.22.41 # too late. 02.29.17 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 02.29.17 # God help me, I'm about to install gentoo 02.29.29 # I uh.. think 02.34.57 Quit H120Owner ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.36.39 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.41.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.42.47 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 02.42.51 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 02.43.34 Join midk [0] (midk@c-67-161-124-8.client.comcast.net) 02.50.06 # yawn. 02.50.52 # Mmm 02.51.01 # gentoo isn't everything 02.51.06 # it takes too long to compile everything 02.51.16 # I'm fully aware of that 02.51.17 # its just not very practical. 02.51.19 Quit Heidelbaer (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.51.33 # I'm hoping to get a useable machine going that won't need a lot of update 02.51.38 # mhm 02.51.49 # plus, it's so slow that it really could use that extra 2% speed 02.51.55 # lol. 02.52.00 # what kind of machine is it? 02.52.01 # (hoping to get distcc running for the compiling) 02.52.12 # PII-M 400mhz 02.52.19 # not too slow... 02.52.19 # but it just... crawls 02.52.25 # mk... 02.52.32 # very bad gfx card 02.52.34 # well. 02.52.39 # i said i was going to sleep 3 hours ago. 02.52.46 # but people have been bugging me ever since 02.52.47 # :) 02.53.05 # so let me once again state that a lot of people suck, bureaucratic people suck, and i'm going to sleep. 02.53.08 # HCl: you've got quite a thing with "mk" which always sets off my xchat alert. 02.53.08 # nightnight... 02.53.18 # xD 02.53.19 # sorry. 02.53.31 # its "mmmm, okay" 02.53.33 # translated. 02.53.38 # just the short version :p 02.53.46 # yep. no probs. :) 02.53.52 # night. 02.53.54 # i'll take it off the alert list. 02.54.04 # nobody ever calls me it anyways, :p 02.54.34 # "midi" is another problem in this channel. haha 02.57.53 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 03.02.38 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-171-89.tpgi.com.au) 03.03.29 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Free sex with a BitchX upgrade! Call for details!") 03.04.16 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050309]") 03.11.42 # ah, now I remember why I dislike that laptop... it won't boot from ANYTHING but harddisk (almost) 03.13.38 # * rasher jumps through hoops 03.17.23 Quit NegativeK () 03.32.00 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.37.08 Join ze [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-218-49.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 03.42.14 # "The recommended setup is a 64 meg boot volume with ext2, a swap partition twice the size of your available RAM, and the rest for your root partition using ReiserFS." 03.42.19 # what ARE these guys smoking!? 03.42.28 # (Gentoo install docs) 03.50.38 # why do I not remember that? 03.50.47 # I remember Gentoo's install docs explaining the different options 03.51.20 # oh well 03.52.29 # well I have the "quickinstall" doc 03.52.47 # Maybe assuming that the instructions are the same, just more condensed is silly of me 03.53.30 # dunno 03.53.40 # could be different 03.53.47 # I havn't looked at the Gentoo install docs in years 03.53.47 # recommending boot volumes is so last millenium 03.54.07 # also, reiserfs?! 03.54.17 # journaling is always a good thing 03.54.37 # well... I'd prefer a journalling fs that isn't horrible and eats babies 03.54.41 # like, say ext3 03.54.44 # hehe 03.54.49 # * Rick eats rasher 03.54.59 # * rasher screams 04.03.05 Part Elmoe ("arrgh.. no.. the pain") 04.03.39 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 04.05.22 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.08.46 Quit QT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.09.26 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 04.17.45 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-246-61.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 04.28.46 Quit ze (Connection timed out) 04.28.46 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-246-61.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 04.37.16 Join Heidelbaer [0] (~h@pD9E39310.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.41.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.50.09 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.52.38 Join ze [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-199-120.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 04.59.13 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 05.25.09 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-246-247.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 05.25.38 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.25.43 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-246-247.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 05.25.49 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 05.25.55 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 06.41.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.55.09 Quit midk ("Leaving") 06.55.46 Quit pill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.15.10 Quit rasher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.17.40 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.26.02 Join pill [0] (dearth@ip-130.net-82-216-140.issy4.rev.numericable.fr) 07.46.29 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 07.59.56 # Gah... linux starts to annoy me again 08.00.19 # glad you didn't say "linus" 08.00.22 # :-) 08.00.26 # Morning peeps! 08.00.34 # hey 08.00.34 # morning 08.00.42 # LinusN: Of course not.... 08.01.21 # :-) 08.01.31 # Trying to install debian on vmware, and configuring vmware tools -> I don't get it :( 08.02.03 # Found an article, saying I need the kernel sources, and telling me how to get that package 08.02.50 # However 'apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1' --> Couldn't find package blah. Now what? 08.11.36 # amiconn: you might need to update the apt database 08.11.58 # apt-get update 08.20.04 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 08.21.28 # amiconn: at least you're not trying to wrestle gentoo... >< 08.22.20 # LinusN: That didn't help. ANyway, I would have been really puzzled if this helped. I installed debain ~8 hours ago, so the database should be up to date, right? 08.22.37 # <_FDV> hello. How about that: http://img.terralab.ru/pubimages/82809.jpg ? 08.23.02 # amiconn: which is your apt source? 08.23.04 # amiconn: are you sure you have the package name right? 08.23.26 # _FDV: palm trees for rockbox? 08.23.29 # Source is http://ftp2.de.debian.org 08.23.45 # Tried the package name with several variations 08.23.57 # <_FDV> LinusN :))) no, change firmware 08.24.14 # amiconn: apt-cache search kernel-headers 08.24.15 # <_FDV> for videorecorder 08.24.24 # apt-cache search kernel-headers |grep uname -r 08.25.09 # _FDV: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=NonArchos 08.25.15 # rasher: No output :( 08.25.19 # rasher: you forgot `` 08.25.38 # haha, indeed 08.25.47 # apt-cache search kernel-headers |grep `uname -r` 08.26.19 # Same result :( 08.27.05 # uname -r tells me I'm running 2.4.27-1-386 08.27.29 # It seems there are no matching headers 08.27.35 # how about grep "2.4.27" then? 08.27.36 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 08.27.46 # that sounds very odd 08.28.00 # morning Bagder 08.28.09 # howdy 08.28.16 # rasher: It's just the default 'debain testing' net install 08.28.26 # had to reboot my adsl modem again today 08.28.26 # *debian even 08.28.32 # we have a slight dilemma regarding the iriver sound output 08.29.03 # oh, in the logs or can you explain it? 08.29.06 # either we use 16-bit output and use DMA, or we use 20 bits with no DMA 08.29.12 # amiconn: investigating.. 08.29.14 # oh 08.29.24 # my gut feeling says 16bit with DMA 08.29.28 # mine too 08.29.55 # amiconn: looks like the current kernel is 2.4.27-2 08.30.04 # <_FDV> LinusN thank you 08.30.08 # the coldfire 5249 seems more and more half-baked to me 08.30.23 # apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 08.30.23 # yeah 08.30.55 # i got a response from philips this morning regarding the dsp documentation 08.31.21 # "The EPICS7A core is not currently programmable by the end user at this time. Our firware engineers currently use assebly at our factory to program the core with features. I have not been made aware that this feature will be optional for the end user in anytime soon." 08.31.36 # ! 08.32.03 # meaning we would have to rely on their binary codecs 08.32.14 # (ifp-5xx) 08.33.22 # crappo 08.35.49 # LinusN: Why would one need 20 bit? 08.36.11 # nice for the S/PDIF output 08.36.28 # there'll be an uproar from HA :) 08.36.40 # haha 08.36.49 # they're free to come fix it ;-) 08.37.30 # rasher: Maybe the current kernel is 2.4.27-2, but why does the installer then install 2.4.27-1, where no header package seems to exists for? 08.37.57 # because that was the default when the installer cd was built 08.38.11 # the kernel installed comes from the cd 08.38.43 # if you had a full(er) cd set it'd have kernel-headers for that version 08.41.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.10.23 Join GodEater [0] (~c2cbc9d1@labb.contactor.se) 09.15.38 # Damn it's easy to setup the time/date in rockbox! :) 09.17.14 Quit GodEater ("CGI:IRC") 09.26.16 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@p3E9C3B43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.30.22 # <- thinks that noone needs more than 16 Bit for output. For recording it might be interesting though especially when you have access to a serious mic / preamp. 09.34.12 # No commits since two days :( 09.37.33 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Remote closed the connection) 09.40.07 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 09.41.08 # i found out what exacly happened to that hd in the usb case that had the power supply connected with the wrong polarity... 09.41.10 # http://www.uni-koeln.de/~ael31/hd.jpg 09.41.51 # Sure looks like the magic smoke escaped 09.42.52 Join webguest21 [0] (~d50f44d6@labb.contactor.se) 09.43.21 # rofl 09.44.35 # do one of you guys know if Roxboxk can work on I-Bead 400? 09.45.05 # could it? probably. can it? no 09.45.13 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l07v-3-44.d1.club-internet.fr) 09.46.40 # webguest21: just figure out all internals, then port it! 09.47.31 # Does anyone know if Wester Digital sells the boards for the hd's separatly? 09.49.04 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@p3E9C3B43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.49.50 # hi folks! 09.50.32 # Lynx_: a new board won't help. In hd electronix usually some information about the specific individual disc / head is stored. If you exchange the electronic only you won't be able to access the data. 09.53.55 Quit webguest21 ("CGI:IRC") 10.01.01 # kurzhaarrocker: we were just about to try that, because we have another disk of the same make. so you think that won't work? 10.02.09 # I have tried that too, it didn't work 10.02.32 # but i can't break the working hd this way? ;) 10.03.36 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 10.03.45 # In some (E)PROM there's information how much power must be applied to make the head go to a specific cylinder and where bad sectors are. Without that information / wrong information you won't be able to access the data. I doubt that it breaks anything unless you try to write something. 10.05.28 # I have tried the same thing some years ago and failed 10.07.28 # hmm, so goodbye data, i guess 10.09.32 # btw: my disk looked even worse as an entire track on the pcb had evaporated 10.09.44 # what did you do to it? 10.10.17 # I put it on my electronic trophy shelf. :) 10.10.26 # no, to get it broken? 10.10.44 # i always take the fun magnets out ;) 10.11.09 # It wasn't me, but my flat mate who broke it. He claimed not to have done anything wrong. 10.11.19 # * kurzhaarrocker doesn't believe that :) 10.11.37 # hehe 10.13.05 # If you are interested in interesting electronic destruction experimenst you could put it into a microwave oven. Looks funny but probably it's not wise to use the microwave for food afterwards... 10.13.49 Quit Bagder (Remote closed the connection) 10.14.05 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 10.16.39 Join webguest42 [0] (~c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 10.19.29 # morning, has anyone flashed the H140 with 1.65k incl. rockbox bootloader ? 10.26.18 # not me 10.26.35 # no, please see the IriverBoot wikipage 10.26.53 # Has anyone tried triggered recording? :) 10.27.01 # not me 10.27.21 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.30.22 # how is it triggered? 10.30.29 # by volume 10.32.44 # perfect for spying on people ;) does it turn off again at low volume? 10.32.51 # yes 10.34.20 # It's a unvaluable tool when you use it in a rockband as "external brain" for jam sessions that you want to turn into a song somewhen :) 10.35.32 Join asplidj [0] (~lolsteam@dialup-27.10.220.203.acc08-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 10.35.34 Quit hile ("Changing server") 10.37.58 Join hile [0] (hile@hack.fi) 10.41.04 Quit hile (Client Quit) 10.41.11 Join hile [0] (hile@hack.fi) 10.41.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.44.48 Quit hile (Client Quit) 10.44.56 Join hile [0] (hile@hack.fi) 10.45.30 Quit hile (Client Quit) 10.46.01 Join hile [0] (hile@hack.fi) 10.48.17 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 10.48.29 # waht, no 20 bit output and dma? :/ 10.48.52 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-194-226.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 10.52.09 # it seems so 10.52.11 Quit ze (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.52.11 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-194-226.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 10.54.29 # oh well, 16 bit's good enough for me 10.58.09 # i assume that's what iriver uses in their stock firmware anyway 10.58.22 # very likely, yes 11.05.45 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@p548CB151.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.09.59 Quit webguest42 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.10.29 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@134.96.247.238) 11.18.33 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Remote closed the connection) 11.18.57 # currently we have 650 subscribers of the mailing list 11.19.52 # That reminds me 11.19.57 # Can you remove my address? :) 11.20.28 # I can, but what is it? 11.20.43 # Wee! ;D 11.31.36 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 11.35.41 # I got a problem with the bootloader 11.35.49 # It hangs on starting original firmware 11.36.10 # Rockbox still boots 11.36.17 # iriver ihp140 11.36.28 # hrm 11.36.33 # 140 is supported too? 11.36.36 # didn't know that 11.36.41 # yes it is 11.36.44 # Patr3ck: how does it 'hang'? 11.36.59 # it shows starting original firmware, and freezes 11.37.06 # it doesn't get to scanning files? 11.37.19 # no 11.37.22 # ouch :( 11.37.32 # can you plug it into usb with rockbox without problems? 11.38.06 # can't test now (no usb cable) but i am sure it will work because rockbox still boots fine 11.38.12 # well 11.38.28 # perhaps someone could put together a plugin that can flash it with a new firmware 11.38.41 # if that's possible 11.38.42 # Patr3ck: run scandisk 11.38.46 # that too 11.38.51 # it worked for a month or so without problems 11.38.59 # I need to do that as well 11.39.05 # today when I booted original firmware 11.39.14 # it was took a longer time usual to scan 11.39.22 # I almost freaked it froze ;< 11.39.53 # * Rick looks for the usb cable 11.40.17 # food! 11.40.19 # but this can happen to anyone, i didn't flash a new bootloader, it just stopped working 11.41.39 # did you do anything with usb? 11.41.48 # recently? 11.41.54 # no 11.41.59 # odd 11.42.22 # yesterday evening i shut down the player, this morning i wanted to start it again 11.42.44 # * Rick runs chkdsk 11.44.03 # LinusN: I will do that, but it is before iriver shows anything, before the checksum is calculated, could this be a file system problem? 11.44.15 # yes 11.44.26 # er 11.44.27 # which checksum? 11.44.34 # if this problem is before that, how are you booting rockbox? 11.44.36 # you said rockbox booted fine 11.44.42 # hehe 11.45.01 # chkdsk sloooow 11.45.03 # * Rick kicks chkdsk 11.45.23 # LinusN: it does not show calculating checksum when I want to boot the original firm, didn't it show calculating checksum when booting original firmware? 11.45.39 # no? 11.45.41 # no 11.45.44 # ah 11.45.47 # it'll show a quick "booting original firmware" message 11.45.53 # ok 11.46.06 # i will try checkdsk 11.46.14 # chkdsk /R ;) 11.46.48 # probably going to take longer for you, since you're using 40gb 11.46.48 # hehe 11.46.53 # as soon as i got hold of my usb cable 11.47.00 # Patr3ck: you don't have a digicam? 11.47.11 # or anything of the sort? 11.47.15 # i have, but not at work 11.47.17 # ahhh 11.47.21 # true 11.47.24 # Patr3ck: also make sure that the battery is charged 11.47.29 # yup 11.47.34 # ok 11.47.47 # rockbox needs less battery to run than the iriver firmware 11.48.04 # but still should be on the safe side 11.48.10 # although.... 11.48.18 # how can he check battery if he can't boot original firmware? 11.48.33 # no point in checking it, just recharge 11.48.36 # unless there was a patch to fix battery 11.48.44 # preglow: well, he's at work, so I assume he doesn't have his charger ;P 11.48.54 # i can't but i can plug in the charger cable (then it should already be able to boot?) 11.49.02 # the battery level is in the debug menu anyway 11.49.10 #