--- Log for 16.03.105 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 23 hours ago 00.00.40 # i've hated the fw's ui on my iriver ever since i got it 00.00.54 Quit mirak ("Leaving") 00.01.17 # fw? 00.01.20 # codecapi!!!!111!!!ONEONE 00.01.47 # yawn 00.01.50 # hello. 00.01.53 # fresh air rocks. 00.04.50 Join midk [0] (~midk@c66-235-14-120.sea2.cablespeed.com) 00.07.18 # no shit 00.08.20 # ha ha gmail invitations 00.09.10 Part MoosCamaro 00.13.56 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 00.15.13 Quit gromit`` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.15.13 Join gromit``` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 00.20.04 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 00.22.01 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 00.23.51 # remind me, does the green led turn off when the battery's full? 00.24.03 # (on h100) 00.24.41 # I think it does 00.24.54 # looks like libflac only uses realloc for metadata 00.24.55 # woot 00.24.58 # Rick: yes 00.25.00 # ehgh 00.25.01 # rasher: yes 00.25.05 # premature autocomplete 00.25.15 # it happens to everyone 00.25.28 # hahahahah 00.26.09 # anyone know how much dual layer dvds cost? 00.26.13 # much 00.27.07 # I only want 1 heh 00.27.27 # going to try backing up my wing commander games 00.27.42 # :-O 00.28.05 # oh, games.. I was reading savegames.. some savegames that'd be 00.28.17 # lol 00.28.30 # don't worry... wing commander 4 has like 6 cds 00.28.53 # I'm creating a massive iso image 00.29.00 # using daemon tools to check that it works 00.29.58 # hm, ¤7 00.30.51 # that's a lot 00.30.56 # DMJC, do you have privateer too? 00.31.15 # I own every wing commander game there is 00.31.28 # even super wing commander for mac 00.31.35 # i would love to play privatter 00.31.39 # sounds like a personal problem 00.31.40 # privateer* 00.31.44 # and that remake on slashdot.... I worked on that 00.32.16 # holy shit 00.32.22 # they did a Privateer remake 00.32.28 # :o 00.32.33 # yeah 00.32.34 # i'm getting that right now 00.32.41 # http://priv.solsector.net 00.32.49 # don't worry... it's just a fart in the wind 00.33.00 # WC:Universe is adding the entire universe map 00.33.05 # http://wcnews.com/map 00.33.34 # hmm.. the map site seems down 00.33.48 # http://www.wcnews.com/maps/ that's it 00.35.32 # oh my god this is pure adoration 00.35.55 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 00.36.10 # took us 5 long years 00.36.54 # how legit is this privateer remake? 00.37.01 # isn't origin bitching? 00.37.07 # origin is DEAD 00.37.19 # all the ip belongs to EA and they haven't said a word 00.37.38 # mmm wing commander 00.37.40 # hah 00.38.09 # is there a strike commander remake in project? 00.38.22 # not that I know of 00.38.54 # the vegastrike engine was always planned for a WC remake.. 00.38.56 # * rasher prods the viewer patch 00.39.01 # http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/albums/vegastrike_mod/orion14.png 00.39.06 # hence the vega name 00.39.12 # this makes me want to play this game so bad 00.39.34 # lol 00.39.40 # that's my new constantinople mesh 00.40.12 # (we actually have the original 3d meshes made by origin...) 00.40.26 # isn't that illegal? 00.40.30 # very 00.41.05 # we don't use them ingame 00.41.17 # we never use that stuff in public 00.41.29 # mm... 00.41.35 # bah. 00.41.38 # * HCl doesn't want to sleep. 00.41.52 # someone inside origin copied them off their mainframe and dumped them on the net 00.42.08 # privateer ships are around 30,000-40,000 polys 00.42.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.43.17 Quit tvelocity[away] () 00.43.31 # if you want renders I can give them out 00.43.40 # but the models aren't really available 00.43.56 # about 5 people have all of them and they don't give them out 00.46.09 Join Renko [0] (~Renko@host81-155-99-0.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) 00.46.17 # ahh 00.46.21 # thought you bundled them 00.46.52 # no 00.47.14 # we had some screenshots up of them in the engine, but we pulled those pretty quick when it looked like we'd actually finish the prohject 00.50.15 # hehe. 00.57.15 # if anyone wants to adopt a codec: http://glow.m0f0.net/rockbox/cf-mpegdec_rockbox.tar.gz 00.58.06 # charge dammit! 00.58.24 Quit Patr3ck () 00.59.32 # * rasher waits for the green light to go off 00.59.35 Quit gromit``` (Remote closed the connection) 00.59.47 # maybe if you sacrifice a chicken it'll charge faster 00.59.49 # *nods* 00.59.56 # o. 00.59.57 # o.o 01.00.14 # I did that yesterday 01.00.28 # maybe you have to sacrifice something bigger 01.00.32 # <.< >.> 01.00.35 # we prefer goats here 01.00.37 # *holds up pike* 01.00.39 # dogs 01.00.40 # oh. 01.00.41 # okay. 01.05.41 # 3 hour charge.. 01.05.45 # now when did I start.. 01.06.21 # 2.5 hours ago.. 01.07.12 Quit Renko (Remote closed the connection) 01.09.55 # oh, it does take quite a while to charge 01.09.57 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.10.12 Join bagawk [0] (Lee@bagawk.user) 01.11.28 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 01.12.32 # bah... I seem to be missing some X11 header files 01.13.23 # installed libx11-dev ? 01.14.02 Quit bagawk (Client Quit) 01.16.50 # Maybe this is missing. Now the next challenge: find out how to add this... 01.17.07 # 'apt-get install libx11-dev' 01.17.08 # apt-get install libx11-dev? 01.17.24 Join gap [0] (~81157a49@labb.contactor.se) 01.17.59 Quit cYmen (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.18.21 # * Bagder goes to sleep 01.18.24 # Hmm. The point is, how do I (1) know how this package is called exactly, in advance or (2) how can I search a package list (in a graphical or menu like tool) 01.18.24 # aye, ditto 01.18.38 # apt-cache search keyword 01.19.10 # that'll list all manners of close matches, both in package name and description 01.19.13 # That's no exactly what I want/need/mean 01.19.20 # as for graphical package tool 01.19.25 # apt-get install aptitude 01.19.45 # ahh, i thought aptitude was an ubuntu thing 01.19.57 # nope 01.20.02 # Hey guys -- question: the current wave test for the iRiver fw, why does the sample play too fast? 01.20.05 # they may have a newer version. 01.20.40 # rasher: 'aptitude is already the latest version' 01.20.52 # gap: does it matter? it's just a demonstration 01.20.55 # excellent, run it :) 01.20.58 # true enough 01.21.12 # gap: it won't be put in rockbox playing the sample too fast, don't worry 01.21.14 # rasher: It's not in the menu. However, just found synaptics 01.21.38 # I'm aware of that, I wondered if there was a technical reason that it currently plays fast 01.21.54 # gap: wouldn't know, the guys who wrote it aren't around 01.21.59 # I know that the I2C code is a little fresh 01.22.54 # hrm 01.23.12 # So, the developers who were supposed to be working on the codec arch are currently AWOL? 01.23.48 # well, there are no developers who are supposed to work on it, but the ones who said they'd have a look have been otherwise tied uÃp 01.23.52 # up 01.24.01 # ah, ok 01.24.51 # development have been pretty slow lately, so i guess people have a lot on their hands 01.25.25 # I don't fault anyone for it -- I know how that is. I'm fighting the urge to jump in right now just because I have a lot of side projects that need finishing 01.25.45 # pft, as i've said earlier, side projects exist to be neglected 01.25.50 # But I have been wanting to get back to C recently; coding in Java for classes makes you feel "dirty" after a while 01.25.55 # Hmm. That helped somewhat, however I'm still missing some headers. Is there a way to find out which package provides a certain file? 01.25.56 # ahh, i can imagine 01.26.22 Quit Aison (Broken pipe) 01.26.25 # well, you're welcome to help, that's for sure 01.26.37 # The fact that I have to typecast simple division in java has got to tell someone something 01.27.02 # I just have to build a crosscompiler first 01.27.29 # it's not a lot of work if you have a running linux system 01.27.57 # Is there a way to compile one for Win32, or do I have to use cygwin? 01.28.01 # amiconn: you pretty much have to ask people, i think 01.28.08 # amiconn: what file? 01.28.32 # amiconn: packages.debian.org can tell, with a bit of luck 01.28.41 # there's no central database on what files are contained in what deb packages, that'd be a very large database 01.28.42 # but asking is usually faster if someone is around 01.28.52 # preglow: in fact packages.debian.org has one 01.28.56 # neato 01.28.59 # didn't know 01.29.30 # One of the things I have hated about the h1xx series is that it isn't even as good fw-wise as the imp-4xx series that came before it 01.30.06 # I got the iMP-400 a couple of years before the H120 and loved it, but was somewhat let down when the H120 didn't have some of the features the 400 had 01.30.12 # now, that's one thing we can remedy 01.30.19 # yes, finally! 01.30.43 # which features are missing? 01.31.15 # rasher: Thanks, very useful :) Turns out I need xlibs-dev 01.31.18 # Well, for starters, the WPS is all wrong. The imp-400 nicely scrolls the information you select, Title - Artist - Album, etc. 01.31.29 # The h120 just shows the folder name and track name 01.31.33 # and not even that on the remote 01.31.43 # well, actually... 01.31.50 # the main screen I suppose does show more 01.31.57 # and the remote shows just the folder and title 01.32.02 # yeah, the wps is retarded 01.32.27 # Then, the imp-400 also has more visualizations. It may be vain, but I liked the waveform vis 01.32.33 # :) 01.32.34 # Btw, rockbox really compiles faster on linux. That's on the same machine, with linux having the additional handicap of running on vmware. I wonder why that is.... 01.32.37 # the h120 only shows the level meter 01.32.51 # amiconn: cygwin is a beast.. 01.33.03 # windows is slower. 01.33.17 # I'm pretty sure cygwin is to blame here 01.33.22 # I dunno, the 400 has just seemed well thought-out while the h120 seemed "rushed" 01.33.28 # Like, they wanted to get it out there 01.33.48 # Let's not even talk about the database... 01.33.49 # lol 01.33.52 # and then abandoned it .. 01.33.57 # the database... 01.34.00 # cygwin is to blame 01.34.06 # the same stuff runs faster in mingw 01.34.23 # Yeah, I like how they didn't update the fw for the h series at all but released 2 updates for the 400 in that time 01.34.48 # let's not talk about the "gap delete"... 01.34.51 # Like, for 6 mos after it's release, people were crying for h series fw and iriver goes and updates the older fw 01.34.52 # a cruel joke 01.34.58 # gap delete is pretty lame 01.35.11 # And I can honestly say I've never needed the lyrics feature 01.35.18 # I don't have the time to ADD them 01.35.25 # Haha, that is so horrible 01.35.34 # especially since the display can show like 3 words at a time 01.35.37 # 1000 songs and I'm going to spend HOW LONG adding lyrics? 01.35.39 # yeah 01.35.41 # horrible wrapping and font 01.35.56 # I tried it on one file 01.36.15 # why do they like the 12 point bold default font? I liked RB the minute it loaded because I could finally see more than 4 files at a time! 01.36.16 # lol 01.36.17 # X11 simulator running... very nice :) 01.36.42 # plus the lyrics-adding app is very bad 01.37.30 # hrm... I can't seem to open the VC DSP file for the UI Sim in VS 2003 01.37.37 # does vmware run the code natively? 01.37.44 # or some jit thing? 01.37.45 # yes 01.37.48 # no. 01.37.50 # wait, n/m 01.37.51 # got it 01.37.51 # hok 01.38.13 # well, a combo of both 01.38.20 # it has to reroute all the out/in and interrupts 01.38.21 # obviously 01.38.30 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 01.39.57 # Preprocessor directives give me a headache in source files when they're nested... 01.41.38 # i welcome you to have a look at fixed.h in libmad 01.41.49 # fetch a bucket first 01.42.02 # I think I'd rather maintain my sanity 01.43.26 # hrm... the win32 target for ui sim doesn't seem to ready to build. 01.43.34 # I think I might just have to shell into a unix box here 01.43.49 # *linux 01.44.35 # gap: the win32 simulator is ready to build. However, the msvc project doesn't work, only cygwin 01.44.42 # ah, ok 01.44.52 # Yeah, MSVC doesn't seem to like it 01.44.55 # be done with, stupid charger 01.45.10 # It likes gifts 01.45.14 # of shiny objects 01.45.19 # and your first born child' 01.45.22 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 01.45.33 # gap: There used to be a working msvc project, before the new simulator build system, and some other changes 01.45.40 # ah, k 01.45.53 # I like how the charger accepts both 110v and 220v 01.46.12 # That's always a plus 01.46.17 # It seems no current developer on win uses/possesses msvc (at least I don't) 01.47.08 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 01.47.09 Join NibbIer [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 01.47.13 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.47.16 # yeah, it's a switched mode one 01.47.34 Quit NibbIer (Client Quit) 01.48.49 # i've got msvc, but little or no will to make the sim work with it 01.49.42 # should probably use an older version than .net to make the files anywa, a lot of people use older versions 01.50.03 # Imho it's unnecessary. The advantage of cygwin is that it allows to build both the win32 and the x11 sim 01.50.30 # true 01.51.05 # If it only were a bit faster, no that I can see how much faster compilation runs under linux... 01.52.53 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 01.52.56 Join NibbIer [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 01.53.02 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.53.45 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 01.53.53 # but i'll go to bed 01.53.56 # later, all 01.54.00 # night 01.54.03 Quit preglow ("fembot") 01.54.51 # Anyone know what the status is on the remote? I know the wiki says that it isn't working quite yet 01.54.54 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 01.54.56 Join NibbIer [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 01.54.59 # but I wondered if anyone knew why 01.55.01 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.55.46 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 01.56.28 # someone said he'd start working on it.. can't remember who though.. 02.00.09 # Charging finished! 02.00.12 # \/ 02.00.15 # \o/ 02.00.25 # * rasher starts test 02.04.06 # yay! 02.04.17 # BTW Who got the call from TI yesterday? 02.07.06 # Linus 02.07.11 # I believe 02.08.04 # Did he say what chip they were trying to id for him? 02.08.44 # I can't remember 02.08.54 # k 02.09.11 # How long does the bat test have to run for? 02.09.38 # until it dies 02.09.56 # I'm guessing a long time 02.10.11 # Considering that with the original fw the estimate was like 18 hours... 02.10.20 # :-S 02.10.21 # with lots of HD activity, I've had it die after about 3 02.10.30 # I'm doing what I can to make it drain afst 02.10.31 # like, on USB when streaming a video file 02.10.31 # fast 02.10.38 # hrm 02.10.49 # full cpu speed, lots of disk access, lcd light on 02.10.53 # Maybe have it walk the file tree? 02.11.06 # too much work :) 02.11.10 # lol 02.11.13 # let me just check that it's working right 02.11.39 # yup, that looks right 02.11.41 # hurray 02.12.47 # * rasher fills up the battery again 02.14.41 # Hmm. I don't get the strange effect with my new button handling that preglow described. It's working just fine, smooth and reliable :-) ? :-/ 02.15.10 # What strange effect? 02.15.46 # He said that if it scrolls a long list, it stops intermittently for a short time 02.16.32 # got a patch? 02.17.15 # BTW, how do I build the uisim for win32 in cygwin? 02.17.53 # run tools/configure and select the player, sim, win32 02.18.00 # Yup. http://amiconn.dyndns.org/x11-button.diff You'll also need http://amiconn.dyndns.org/kernel.c Stick it in uisimulator/x11. It's different from the other kernel.c files... 02.18.39 # Beware. The current patch switches off x11 button autorepeat 02.18.47 # I'll survive 02.18.59 # This is only possible globally, so I need to add focus/unfocus handling 02.19.35 # * rasher builds 02.19.48 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 02.20.45 # oops 02.20.47 # * rasher builds again 02.22.28 # what the.. 02.22.44 # ?? 02.22.56 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 02.23.03 # I must've done something wrong 02.23.13 # no cpu_boost() 02.23.21 # totally unrelated to the patch of course 02.23.26 # huh? 02.23.37 # cpu_boost in the simulator ? 02.23.48 # oh right 02.23.58 # forgot to check for dynamic cpu 02.25.58 Join Terminal-Velocit [0] (~tony@ipa159.4.tellas.gr) 02.26.15 Join RaZorbacK [0] (~sof@garonne-1-82-66-75-34.fbx.proxad.net) 02.27.08 # Hello all 02.27.15 # hey 02.27.27 # amiconn: I can't produce a glitch 02.28.00 # hey guys can i ask u a little question about rockbox? 02.28.13 # sure 02.28.16 # just ask 02.29.21 # rasher: Nice :) Btw, with the new button code, it is finally possible to use rockboy in the x11 sim 02.29.32 # haha 02.30.03 # ok. i'm using windows xp and a jukebox player. my xp doesn't recognize my player by defaut so i have downloaded a driver from archos site and now it works. but, very often now, when i plugged my box on the usb port i have a blue screen and i have to reboot the pc. very annoying. is there a good working driver because i think it comes from it? 02.31.12 # Hrm, guys, I'm getting this error when I go to build the ui sim for win32: "MAKE in libFLAC bitbuffer.c:32:39: global.h: No such file or directory" 02.32.43 # "Dir Buffer is full" 02.32.46 # well that's cute :) 02.32.58 # when does that happen? 02.33.17 # gap: did you configure? 02.33.21 # YES 02.33.23 # *yes 02.33.30 # sounds like an include path problem then 02.33.40 # ah, I see. 02.33.43 # nevermind. 02.33.50 # It doesn't matter, though, I found that it had already made rockboxui.exe 02.33.52 # hrm 02.34.00 Quit Nibbler ("blubber") 02.34.01 # so guys no ideas for me? :) I know that everyone use linux now but... :-) 02.34.33 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 02.34.34 Join NibbIer [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 02.34.36 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.34.37 Join xNibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 02.34.38 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.34.45 # It may be possible that you are getting the blue screen because you are using a win98 driver under XP 02.34.59 # I had a friend who had a similar problem with another player 02.35.16 # RaZorbacK: I also use the stock drivers from the archos site for my player (recorder with usb2 works without special drivers in xp) 02.35.20 # XP for some reason wouldn't use the XP driver 02.35.22 # No crashes... 02.36.14 # Well, the usb1 archoses (player/studio and recorder <= 15) are not fully usb mass storage compatible, so they need a special driver 02.36.40 # nonetheless the file seems to be for win xp according to the site 02.36.50 # but, i have to double check 02.37.26 Quit StrathAFK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.38.05 # some friends have told me that htey effectively use their recorder without driver under xp 02.38.21 # but the player (usb 1) is not correctly detected 02.39.20 # See my last comment. The usb2 archoses are usable without special drivers in WinXP, the usb1 units are not. 02.40.21 # oki, so, it may be a problem coming form the driver or i haven't dl the correct one. gonna have a lool at the site once again. 02.40.27 # thanks for the help 02.41.19 # btw, i have just flashed my old player, it works like a charm, thank to those who made this peace of code 02.41.58 # Nice :) Actually it was me who made flashing players finally possible... 02.42.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.42.28 # I just checked. I'm using the drivers from the archos hp, but *not* the latest version 02.42.35 # thanks a whole bunch. the boot is definetly faster 02.42.45 # Dunno if these are still available 02.43.44 # ho can u plz if possible send them to me or up them on a ftp if they are not available? 02.46.01 # lol thx i've never used this feature on irc. i have a basic client, i'm not on it so much 02.48.24 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 02.48.27 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 02.48.30 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 02.49.08 # Argh! the x11 sim on linux segfaults if I try to use rockboy. Most likely endianess macro prob 02.53.25 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 03.10.03 # boy, the crosscompiler takes forever to make 03.10.19 # at least in cygwin 03.22.39 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 03.28.43 Quit Heidelbaer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.32.36 Quit RaZorbacK () 03.33.47 Quit xNibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.36.44 Quit Terminal-Velocit () 03.39.47 Join NibbIer [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 03.43.00 Join wacky_ [0] (~wacky@modemcable040.196-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.43.03 # hey guys 03.43.14 # Some times I can't boot my original iRiver firmware either 03.43.20 # but I found some tips and infos... 03.44.09 # do tell 03.45.35 # first I found that it mostly fails when I write to the disk using the Rockbox firmware.. 03.45.45 # I was trying to make playlists 03.45.54 # and run iriverify on them to use them on the original firmware.. 03.46.00 # but some times the original firmware didn't boot anymore. 03.46.12 # When I removed the files I created.. or played around a little, it booted correctly. 03.46.40 # This didn't happen before we twiddled with the fat.c section where we randomized the 8.3 filename, so maybe we have a starting point. 03.46.48 # I'm going to investigate a little bit more right away 03.46.58 # there's probably a real bug hiding around here, or maybe iRiver just isn't fully fat32 compliant? 03.49.38 # hmm my guess is that if the iriver wasn't fully fat32 compliant that i would've run into some problem by now 03.50.36 # yeah 03.50.48 # i use my ihp120 under win32 and fbsd and have read/written thousands of fucked up mp3 filenames on the thing 03.51.20 # especially stuff coming from usenet...heh 03.51.32 Quit gromit` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.52.37 # * rasher updates iriverfaq slightly 03.54.48 # * rasher WikiWikiBangs his head on his desk 03.56.02 # heh 03.56.30 # so is there anybody here that i would be able to beg/bribe to revive a dead iriver with the BDM in the event that something goes horribly awry with my rockbox install ? 03.56.40 # would just like to know before i take the plunge 03.56.41 # heh 03.56.58 # really wanna start hacking on it tho 03.57.29 # That would be Linus 03.57.33 # hey guys.. I can't surf through the flash orgy of hell out there on www.iriver.com 03.57.35 # twiki rules 03.57.43 # could anyone give me a link to the 1.65 F/W page ? 03.57.48 # or the downloads section? 03.57.57 # hang on 03.58.07 # * rasher puts on his flash-resistant hat 03.58.45 # twiki is alright, it's just that I keep forgetting the different link syntaxes 03.59.09 # Un an unrelated note: gentoo still bootstrapping 03.59.23 # wacky_: us or eu? 03.59.39 # well.. the page that tells what's new 03.59.51 # ah 03.59.53 # http://www.iriver.com/html/support/download/sudw_view.asp?idx=682 03.59.57 # recording features 03.59.59 # yea i started using twiki long ago for tracking internal docs at an isp 04.00.47 # ok good :)) 04.00.52 # recording features ? 04.01.01 # no gapless, yet ? 04.01.03 # I haven't looked too close at it 04.01.06 # heavens no 04.01.28 # * wacky_ doesn't care.. he uses gap delete instead 04.01.38 # Well it's not the same at all 04.01.39 # it's so close to what I want anyway :) 04.01.48 # lol.. yeah.. unfortunately, I know 04.02.31 # any amount of gap is too much if you ask me 04.02.45 # hmm 1.65 f/w for which player? 04.02.45 # I can't reproduce easily the bug on my iRiver now.. 04.03.02 # ncrawla: h100 series 04.03.05 # they only seem to have 1.60 available for the h(100|120|140) 04.03.10 # er 04.03.12 # hm 04.03.16 # uhm, no 04.03.18 # GRR. I can't seem to build the crosscompiler 04.03.40 # I get "bison: subsidiary program `/home/Guy/src/missing m4' not found" when making the binutils 04.03.59 # in case you didn't know, the bootloader has NOT been tested with 1.65, so don't try using it :) 04.05.30 # current d/l links for the h100 series f/w are: 04.05.31 # http://www.iriveramerica.com/download/H100/iHP_100.hex 04.05.31 # http://www.iriveramerica.com/download/H120/ihp_120.hex 04.05.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK ncrawla 04.05.31 # http://www.iriveramerica.com/download/H140/ihp_120.hex 04.05.36 # I pity my iriver, it's been decoding "catch the digital flow" over and over again for ages 04.05.53 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.06.05 # ncrawla: what does that give you? 04.06.06 # lol :) 04.06.07 # 1.65? 04.06.26 # ncrawla - look at the worldwide site.. often iriveramerica is way behind 04.06.28 # seems to be 1.60 04.06.30 # ahh 04.06.42 # 1.60.. that's 2 versions behind! 04.07.02 # which reminds me.. should probably check the link in the wiki 04.07.06 # Anyone know why I am getting the message that I am when I make binutils? 04.07.19 # rasher: I used it yesterday, it seems okay 04.07.22 # yea the links came from http://www.iriveramerica.com/support/hd/h100.aspx 04.07.23 # nope, sorry 04.07.31 # gap: and gave you 1.63? 04.07.48 # No, uh, the safe build to use with the loader 04.07.56 # ah 04.08.15 # The hash matched one of the ones in the table 04.08.15 # There are direct links to 1.63eu and 1.63us in the wiki 04.08.32 # kay, it was 1.63us 04.08.44 Quit QT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.08.59 # but they link to a file "H120(us)_v163.zip", so that should be alright 04.09.05 # hmm.. can't get it to crash anymore... 04.09.14 # Just didn't want the wiki to link to 1.65 04.09.41 # What version of gcc is needed for coldfire? 04.09.41 # huh on www.iriver.com/eu i search for ihp-120 or h100 and i get nothing.. 04.09.48 # am i missing something..? 04.10.11 # http://www.iriver.com/html/support/download/sudw_view.asp?idx=682 :) 04.10.15 # I forget how I got there 04.10.28 # oh yeah, there was a link on the frontpage somewhere 04.11.06 # ah yep that's got 1.65 on it 04.11.10 # hmm 04.11.41 # and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot has direct links to 1.63 04.14.08 # wow 04.16.31 # yeah so i'm gonna upgrade my iriver to 1.63, back it up and then try rockbox 04.16.32 # heh 04.16.42 # grr. I don't understand this. Bison tells me that it can't find /usr/Guy/src/missing but the script is there. 04.17.12 # i'm just curious...in the md5/fw ver/bootloader.bin ver table on IriverBoot...what H1x0 models is everybody using 04.17.22 # H120 here 04.18.09 # the firmware is the same, surely? 04.18.29 # I think 04.18.34 # well it is 04.19.42 # is there a way I could submit a new plugin ? 04.19.57 # Jesus.. gentoo puts dos2unix and unix2dos in seperate ebuilds.. small wonder they end up with a million of them 04.20.11 # wacky_: file it as a patch, or bug a dev here 04.20.17 # yeah i don't know why the us site has a different 1.60 f/w for the ihp-100 than the ihp-120 and ihp-140 04.20.28 # :P 04.20.34 # the us site just s*cks 04.20.35 # is there even a ihp-100? 04.20.40 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 04.20.49 # ihp-110.. the first batches.. but not ihp-100 :) 04.20.55 # heheh, unless it came with a 0GB hhd 04.20.58 # heh 04.21.00 # s/hhd/hdd 04.21.07 # yea the us site is just whacked 04.21.14 # :P 04.21.22 # the h110 differ from h120/h140 04.22.17 # so i guess i'll back up my iriver, get 1.63 on it and start working on getting the sh1 cross compiler working 04.22.52 # wacky_: I'd do both.. file a patch with just the plugin.c, and see if you can catch anyone here 04.24.00 # on the sf.net site ? 04.24.03 # er i guess m68k i mean 04.24.03 # heh 04.24.15 # For win32 or linux? 04.24.38 # scratch the win32. x86 platform? 04.24.54 # ncrawla - you want a .tar.bz2 of my cross-compiling env ? I run linux/x86 04.25.05 # i'll most likely be doing it all in linux tho fbsd would be nice 04.25.20 # hmm.. don't know much about fbsd 04.25.24 # yeah that would be nice 04.25.38 # have access to lots of linux boxen 04.26.32 # I need one too... been trying to get the crosscompiler to make for the last hour 04.26.34 # it's 14Mb compressed, 40 uncompressed 04.27.17 # cool 04.27.18 # http://bourget.cc/dump/m68k-devel.tar.bz2 04.27.24 # excellent 04.27.26 # ty 04.27.29 # Thanks! 04.27.42 # gap: that's compiled for linux.. 04.27.51 # aren't you doing cygwin? 04.27.58 # gap - for linux, yeah.. 04.28.01 # or am I making stuff up 04.28.43 # just dump that .tar.bz2 somewhere and do: export PATH=/path/to/that/place/bin:$PATH 04.28.57 # that should be www.bourget.cc right.. 04.29.00 # and follow the rest of the stuff, ../tools/configure, then make 04.29.14 # what I do is make a zip and unzip -d /mnt/removable rockbox.zip 04.29.25 # er hm 04.29.29 # so I do 'make zip' and then 'unzip -d /mnt/removable rockbox.zip' from within my 'build' subdir 04.29.29 # Resolving bourget.cc... failed: Host not found. 04.29.41 # try out ip.bourget.cc:8080 instead 04.29.46 # bourget.cc is a redirection anyway 04.29.54 # Yes, I'm using cygwin 04.30.18 # so is Linus going to test the 1.65 soon ? :) 04.30.20 # yeah seems to be working now i just had to try it a couple of times 04.30.20 # :o 04.31.42 # wacky_: I don't think it's a very high priority.. plus he appears to have been busy lately 04.32.26 # what are the risks ? 04.32.38 # a brick 04.32.56 # oh please, a paperweight, at least! 04.32.56 # not sure how likely it is though 04.33.59 # I think the tools do some checks when injecting the bootloader into the firmware 04.35.21 # Figured out what was wrong with the build, I think... 04.35.33 # m4 wasn't installed at the time of the configure; it was installed afterward 04.35.36 # so it marked it missing 04.35.47 # It didn't say in the wiki that m4 was needed 04.36.03 # add a note :) 04.40.07 # How do you install m4 on Mandrake and debian? 04.40.18 # urpmi m4 and apt-get m4 ? 04.40.30 # apt-get install m4 ? 04.40.37 # apt-get install m4 indeed 04.40.44 # ok 04.42.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.42.46 # added to wiki 04.49.18 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 04.49.26 Join Seed [0] (ben@l192-114-41-133.broadband.actcom.net.il) 04.50.38 # hmmmm.. I'm really tempted to try out the 1.65 with the bootloader :) Everything compiled and scrambled/descrambled well....... 04.51.01 # rasher - do you live near Linus ? 04.52.43 # neighbouring country 04.53.14 # hmmm.. 04.53.21 # I really don't think you should :-\ 04.53.28 # what about you trying to paperweightify you iRivier ? 04.53.36 # s/i// 04.53.39 # Na 04.53.56 # come on!! :)) I send you the .hex file and you try out :) heehee! let's go 04.54.05 # I'm in no hurry to get 1.65 going 04.54.07 Join Heidelbaer [0] (~h@pD9530BC8.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.54.37 # ahh.. I'd like to have a bit more recording options.. but I can't live without the playlist support of the rockbox 04.56.06 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 04.56.06 # * wacky_ will waaaaaaaaaait then.. 04.58.38 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the ONLY IRC client on Viagra!") 05.04.31 Quit NibbIer ("blubber") 05.16.22 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 05.16.26 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.20.25 # how can I create a patch with a file not in CVS ? 05.20.35 # cvs diff -u won't deal with files not in CVS 05.20.44 # is this for a plugin? 05.21.05 # yeah.. but I have a couple of mods in SOURCES and viewers.config .. so I want a single patch with the whole file and tiny details around 05.21.27 # just submit the c file and a diff I think 05.21.42 # in the patches tracker ? 05.21.52 # yeah 05.22.29 # just the c file is fine for a plugin, but I guess the viewers info needs to go somewhere 05.35.41 # ok I submitted the patch. 05.35.51 # Is the patch tracker used a lot by the team ? 05.36.05 # I'm not entirely sure how much 05.36.11 # ok 05.36.14 # see you guys later 05.36.21 # bye 05.36.25 # going to try later to investigate the booting problem 05.36.28 Quit wacky_ ("see ya") 05.47.03 # I cannot believe that the compiler has been making for like an hour 05.47.56 # :-O 05.48.13 # what kind of cpu? 05.48.43 # Well, 1 GHz PIII, but, it's running in Cygwin 05.49.28 # mhm 05.49.47 # iirc, cygwin is bad at program startup 05.49.56 # which happens a lot during compilations 05.51.43 # damn it: ccwoz6Pb.s: Assembler messages: 05.51.49 # Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored 05.51.54 # Error: operands mismatch -- statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored 05.52.10 # Well that's lovely 05.54.36 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 05.57.42 # that's.. precious 05.58.39 # yah, I don't know how to recover from it 05.58.43 # It halted the make 06.00.33 Join ze__ [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-247-168.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 06.00.44 # I suppose I'll have to switch to a slightly older release of gcc 06.00.45 # I have no idea.. sorry 06.00.59 # I was trying to make gcc-3.4.3 06.01.04 # I'll try 3.4.0 06.01.21 # that's.. older? 06.02.39 # iriver still running 06.03.25 # Battery level: C0 06.12.08 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.12.08 Nick ze__ is now known as ze (ze@adsl-69-231-247-168.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 06.40.13 # gap: you really using the binutils from CVS? 06.42.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.49.18 # I have battery data 06.49.25 # hurray 06.50.31 # I was using the binutils from CVS, yes 06.50.39 # rasher: How's the data? 06.51.19 # it's more or less linear with a sudden drop at the end 06.51.48 # or actually.. 06.51.54 # That's normal, I'd imagine 06.52.16 # probably more or less sqrt() 06.53.07 # BTW How do you unzip a bz2 archive in linux? 06.53.31 # tar as well? 06.53.42 # tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2 06.54.00 # Okay, thanx 06.54.10 # I didn't know if it was similar to gzip 06.54.25 # it is, except z -> j 06.56.36 # Why is cygwin so slow? 06.57.49 # http://rasher.dk/iriver-battery.png 06.57.52 # http://rasher.dk/iriver-battery.log 07.00.05 # Very smart of you to record the time as well -- that way you didn't have to keep track of it 07.00.13 # Good job rasher 07.00.28 # :) 07.00.43 # This should help us make an accurate battery meter 07.00.43 # let's hope it's useful 07.01.09 # Well, I'd say the warning messages about the battery should start around 210 or less 07.01.28 # Maybe 200 07.10.16 # there, added to the wiki 07.19.17 # Well, I'm gonna get off now. Talk to you all later! 07.19.24 # Again, good work rasher 07.19.32 # See you 07.19.36 Part gap 07.31.41 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.59.16 Quit _FDV (Excess Flood) 08.07.57 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 08.16.07 # any iriver owners here who use the digital out? 08.32.38 # Is digital out necessary to catch the digital flow? ;) 08.32.59 # absolutely 08.33.18 # I love that iriver tune! :) 08.33.20 # It's so funky! 08.33.43 # was about to try on my home stereo, but i dodn't have the correct optical cable :-( 08.35.53 # it would be awful if we had to set up a timer interrupt every 20us... 08.37.02 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 08.42.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.53.57 # LinusN: I use it occasionally. 08.54.54 # LinusN: The 1.8" disks are some kind of special low power mode? Do you know which voltage they operate under? 08.55.11 # * dwihno goes studying english since he's not making any sense at all anymore :) 08.58.57 # Liehbeth: does your stereo report the sampling rate? 08.59.23 # I'm actually using the front panel of the Audigy 2 Platinum 08.59.24 # . 09.00.04 # i want to know if the h1x0 really outputs 48khz or if it downsamples to 44.1khz 09.01.02 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.01.43 # Hmm.. I'll do some searching. I may not be able to get much, though, as I've heard that the Audigy 2 does some funky things to digital I/O. 09.02.00 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@134.96.247.242) 09.04.50 # moin 09.05.53 # morning 09.08.27 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 09.25.28 Nick kergoth is now known as kergoth`zzz (~kergoth@covenant.kergoth.com) 09.28.44 Nick kergoth`zzz is now known as kergoth (~kergoth@covenant.kergoth.com) 09.28.48 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@p3E9C367F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.33.19 # Could someone do me a favor and verify that the patch ("recledtrig_bar.patch") at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&atid=439120&group_id=44306&aid=868645 is downloadable an that the file really looks like a patch file? I tried to upload it serveral times using different browsers and usually the file was either scrambled or all linefeeds were missing. 09.36.20 # i get recledtrig_bar.patch with md5sum 3824d6c1f075568bd88bd27d99890b14 09.36.45 # does it look like a patch file? 09.36.51 # yes 09.36.55 # there's a stray CR in it 09.37.34 # just following set_poweroff_timeout(global_settings.poweroff); 09.37.55 # well, I think people can live with it :) 09.37.59 # Thank you, Schnueff 09.38.02 # np 09.39.01 # LinusN: It doesn't look like I'm going to get any results any time soon. I'll let you know if I do, though. 09.39.59 # allright 09.48.57 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 09.50.36 # kurzhaarrocker: not that i doubted it, but you were right with the hd pcb, it didn't work on the other one... 09.50.51 # :( 09.52.08 Join Cassandra [0] (~christi@213.78.110.91) 09.54.17 # gcc -O -ansi -g -c -o scramble.o scramble.c 09.54.17 # make[2]: *** [scramble.o] Error 255 09.54.17 # Hä? 09.54.28 # no compiler? 09.54.44 # gcc --version 09.54.48 # seems you're right 09.55.23 # * kurzhaarrocker tries to track down where his compiler has gone on holiday 09.55.36 # he left you 09.56.09 # he said he felt unappreciated 09.56.40 # I didn't care for it for a long time... 09.56.45 # exactly 09.57.18 # you have to take care of it, and give it some source code once in a while 09.58.28 # I should get an upgrade anyway. It produced fat objects. Bigger than necessary. 10.00.19 Nick kergoth is now known as kergoth`zzz (~kergoth@covenant.kergoth.com) 10.01.11 # oh 10.05.15 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@p548CB5AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.08.38 # for building the toos I need the gcc-core and not the gcc-g++ compiler, right? 10.09.50 # yup 10.10.01 # thx 10.10.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment 10.11.39 # (where it says Devel - gcc but cygwin offers plenty gcc variants) 10.15.38 Quit DMJC ("Leaving") 10.34.52 Join AciD [0] (~AciD@acid.user) 10.35.23 Quit AciD (Remote closed the connection) 10.35.31 Join AciD [0] (~AciD@acid.user) 10.35.42 Quit AciD (Remote closed the connection) 10.42.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.55.15 # yay - with the new compiler rockbox + triggered recording is small enough to fit into rombox again. 11.00.28 # I told you... 11.00.53 # what? :) 11.06.33 Join Cassandra_ [0] (~christi@213.78.111.167) 11.18.17 Quit Cassandra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.45.57 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-171-89.tpgi.com.au) 11.47.01 Join ABerg [0] (~aber@lsn-boi-catv-c124-p061.vtx.ch) 11.47.48 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 12.08.27 Join Heidelweg [0] (~h@pD9E398A6.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.27.01 Quit Heidelbaer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.27.28 Quit ABerg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.36.08 Nick Strath is now known as StrathAFK (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 12.42.04 Quit Schee4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.42.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.42.54 Join Schee4 [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-10-18.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.16.58 Join Patr3ck_ [0] (~patr3ck@p548CB890.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.25.30 Quit Patr3ck (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.36.44 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 13.55.10 # * preglow hugs utf8 14.04.13 # heh. 14.04.16 # * HCl slaps valknut 14.05.23 # strange battery log 14.08.10 # ? 14.08.23 # rasher made a battery log 14.08.26 # its in the wiki 14.09.00 # *goes to see* 14.10.28 # don't see it o.o; 14.10.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/IriverPort/iriver-battery.png 14.11.12 # thats nice, but i have no idea what the numbers mean :X 14.12.29 # it's what you read out the battery level adc 14.12.55 # oh. 14.13.03 # he managed to read battery levels 14.13.03 # ? 14.14.40 # we've always been able to do that 14.14.58 # he just logged the battery levels in a mpa2wav decoding loop to see how the level changed with actual battery capacity 14.21.11 Join Terminal-Velocit [0] (~tony@ipa159.4.tellas.gr) 14.24.35 # ah. 14.24.42 # why doesn't battery reading work in rockbox then...? 14.24.53 # 3 hours isn't much 14.25.00 Nick Terminal-Velocit is now known as tvelocity (~tony@ipa159.4.tellas.gr) 14.25.06 # as i said, it's in a mpa2wav decoding loop 14.25.13 # onto disk? 14.25.16 # yes 14.25.17 # which keeps the disk spinning 14.25.18 # or onto ram? 14.25.20 # ah. ok. 14.25.35 # battery reading doesn't work in rockbox because this data was produced less than half a day ago 14.26.08 # hm. 14.26.09 # mk 14.26.53 # next thing will be to map the ADC readings to actual voltages, then we can make the battery meter work 14.27.18 # i'm hoping to do those measurements this evening 14.27.23 # well, that should just be a quick measurement, yes? 14.27.28 # that is, two quick measurements 14.27.33 # exactly 14.27.42 # nice 14.27.42 # :) 14.27.55 # i think i'll take a look at playing mods soon.. 14.28.05 # mod players used to be cool 14.28.14 # they still are, god damn it!"#¤! 14.28.18 # xD 14.28.21 # sorry 14.28.32 # i just say used to because i don't listen to them anymore 14.28.47 # my mod collection vanished in the great disk crash of 2004, but they're all available on the net 14.28.50 # i asked a question on the mr forum about the optical sampling rate, no reply so far 14.29.00 # lol. 14.29.03 # the great disk crash. 14.29.04 # xD 14.29.07 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 14.29.27 # * kurzhaarrocker can't help LinusN because he doesn't own any IRivers 14.29.35 # why is it so hard to find certain music on the net :/ 14.29.37 # yeah i lost a lot of files to on the great disk crash of 2004 14.29.38 # :P 14.29.52 # i don't suppose any of you have "rochelle - eternal flame (almighty definitive mix)" 14.29.56 # ? 14.30.24 # i can't make my minidisc player display sample rate, so no help here either 14.30.33 # and that's the only thing i've got that accepts optical in 14.31.42 # hm. 14.31.50 # my sound card accepts optical in. does that help at all? 14.32.00 # one of my flatmates has some optical stuff. but i don't have an optical cable.. 14.32.07 # tvelocity: well, yes, if you can somehow read the sampling rate on the incoming stream 14.32.32 # i have no idea how to do that (if it's possible) 14.32.42 # i've never used it before 14.32.48 # it should be very possible, but i've not experience with s/pdif on pcs, so i don't know 14.32.48 # looks like rockbox for the ifp-5xx might be a no-go :-( 14.32.54 # LinusN: how come? 14.33.17 # the dsp is not user-programmable 14.33.25 # great 14.33.28 # you have to use the non-free philips codecs 14.33.47 # bah 14.34.41 # "The EPICS7A core is not currently programmable by the end user at this time. Our firware engineers currently use assebly at our factory to program the core with features. I have not been made aware that this feature will be optional for the end user in anytime soon." 14.35.51 # hahaha 14.35.59 # is everything half-baked? 14.36.05 # i want a player that has perfect hardware, god damnit 14.36.49 # it's all about time-to-market 14.36.55 # yes, of course 14.38.25 # is the battery glued to the back case of the player or what? 14.38.28 # I always wonder if it would be possible to design an open source hardware player, and then have it manufactured... 14.38.46 # You always should have a few TORX 172 around... 14.38.47 # Lynx_: possible, yes, cause of your personal bankrupcy, yes 14.38.50 # An how high the initial investment would be 14.38.55 # perfectly possible, but marketing is a hell 14.39.08 # i've got torx drivers 14.39.15 # but the battery is friggin' stuck 14.39.20 # preglow: well, looking at the fundraising of websites, it should be possible... 14.39.59 # well, sure, try :P 14.40.03 # i'll back you up 14.40.04 # I don't mean torx screw drivers but optical spdif receivers :) 14.40.13 # one would have to get a few thousand people to pay for the player in advance, trusting it will be good if they can follow and influence the design process 14.40.42 # preglow: ok, for backup i need 50000$, for starters ;) 14.41.48 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@217.30.249.214) 14.42.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.43.17 # no backup, this is gambling, baby 14.44.10 # hehe. how many units does one have to produce to get into the iriver/archos priceranges? hundreds or thousands or more? 14.44.30 # more than thousand 14.44.30 # s 14.45.55 Join webguest00 [0] (~d46f38c2@labb.contactor.se) 14.46.40 Quit webguest00 (Client Quit) 14.47.46 # \o/ 14.50.54 # _o/ 14.51.33 # o.O 14.51.42 Quit Aison (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.58.03 # glad the battery log is useful 15.05.18 # i wonder what the weird spikes come from 15.06.21 # probably from the backlight when rasher pushed a key to check the display...? 15.08.21 # rasher: is this so? 15.08.41 # sounds very plausible, at least 15.08.46 # backlight does suck quite a bit of power 15.09.03 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m224.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 15.09.06 # no, I didn't touch it 15.09.12 # had the backlight on at all times 15.09.53 # ok 15.10.00 # it doesn't even fit hdd spinup 15.10.17 # hdd just spins up once at the start, no? 15.10.42 # hrm, I think it read the file each time 15.10.46 # not quite sure though 15.10.53 # a, you didn't disk write? 15.11.07 # oh right 15.11.10 # :-) 15.11.12 # yes 15.11.15 # silly me 15.11.20 # i also wonder why the curve is so irregular 15.11.27 # but i don't know a whole lot about batteries 15.11.39 # you mean it drops off fast at the end? 15.11.53 # no, that is understandable 15.12.04 # the level is very steady for a while 15.12.05 # then drops several samples 15.12.07 # then steady again 15.12.08 # etc 15.12.11 # ah 15.13.14 # yeah, that's weird 15.13.17 # any point in running it again 15.13.21 # ? 15.13.26 # nah 15.13.51 # wouldn't think so 15.14.01 # rasher: which cpu frequency was this? 15.14.22 # 120 15.14.41 # in fact, it would be interesting to run it in 48MHz 15.14.53 # I can do that :) 15.15.09 # i suspect the low spikes to be misreadings 15.15.31 # due to the high clock frequency on the spi interface to the adc 15.15.36 # ahh 15.16.31 # i've seen the output value dither, but not that badly 15.17.18 # is markun ever here? 15.18.03 # okay, test running 15.18.10 # rasher: great 15.18.32 # wow, that really changes decoding speed 15.18.41 # i think he reads the logs.. 15.18.46 # and not just to a third 15.18.55 # it scales more or less linearly 15.18.55 # so it seems that 120MHz with disk spinning non-stop still gives us almost 3hrs playtime 15.19.05 # that's pretty good 15.19.17 # corresponds very well to the iriver firmware 15.19.47 # disk by far the greatest power hog 15.20.09 # preglow: hrm... getting 8% on a file that did 90% with cpu_boost on 15.20.22 # rasher: are you sure it is 48mhz? 15.20.22 # any chance I'm running 11mhz? 15.20.33 # I.. don't know 15.20.39 # to run at 48, you must first go to 120 and then down again 15.20.46 # ah 15.20.51 # well then I'm sure it isn't 15.21.00 # the boost system is designed to start at 48 15.21.02 # you're running at 11mhz now 15.21.19 # but it is still at 11 when booting 15.21.42 # for now 15.21.56 # LinusN: does the instruction decoder fetch a dword at a time, or does it fetch just what it needs? 15.22.18 # it fetches only what it needs 15.22.29 # but the cache fetches 16 bytes at a time 15.22.32 # will two calls to cpu_boost() make sure this happens correctly, or do I have to give it some time? 15.22.47 # two calls will work 15.22.54 # excellent 15.22.55 # s/will/should/ :-) 15.23.01 # :) 15.23.10 # i'm using 16 bit displacement mode a lot of places where i should be using increment or decrement addressing 15.23.21 # doesn't matter much when the code is in iram, but we should try avoiding that 15.23.52 # the data bus is 16 bits 15.24.04 # i thought you said the iram data bus was 32 bits 15.24.08 # iram, yes 15.24.16 # sorry 15.24.33 # yup, but i'm planning one putting as little code as possible in iram 15.24.38 # * rasher charges again 15.24.42 # data is more important 15.24.54 # preglow: iram is a scarce resource 15.25.11 # trying to put as many loops in the code as i can 15.25.20 # and, as you said, code is not that critical, thanks to the cache 15.25.28 # coldfire doesn't have much of a pipeline to ruin on branches anyway 15.25.36 # hehe, no 15.25.58 # it's so lame, in comparison with modern cpus 15.25.58 # i think the emac unit is more heavily pipelined than the main execution unit 15.25.58 # heh 15.26.48 # quite 15.27.34 # the jpeg plugin with cpu_boosts is really fast :) 15.28.06 # and the mandelbrot 15.28.12 # i wish markun could continue the work with the grayscale lcd 15.28.13 # what, they work? 15.28.17 # but that one screws up when zooming in and out 15.28.26 # with markun's patch they do 15.28.30 # qahh 15.28.52 # his patch is only half-finished 15.29.09 # hence why you can't pan jpegs 15.29.16 # and the reset problems 15.29.29 # but we've agreed on keeping the framebuffer in the internal format? 15.29.46 # i definitely want that 15.29.54 # i agree wholeheartedly 15.30.18 # i don't think wasting resources on abstraction is a good idea on limited platforms like this, if we can avoid it 15.30.24 # ack 15.30.27 # is it worth considering the possible colourscreen of h300? 15.30.46 # we'll address that when the day comes 15.30.49 # yes 15.31.05 # i wonder how hard it'll be to get the specs for the screen 15.31.20 Join markun [0] (~markun@bastards.student.utwente.nl) 15.31.24 # hah 15.31.26 # we need to find out which screen it is 15.31.28 # talk of the devil! 15.31.28 # well speak of the devil 15.31.53 # speak/talk, i suck 15.31.54 # I was spying a bit in the irc log :) 15.32.10 # that really has some amusing consequences 15.32.16 # too bad i have to run to catch the train 15.32.30 # see you later 15.32.39 # like this, and people answering questions asked before they joined 15.32.39 # bye bye LinusN 15.32.48 # run LinusN, run! 15.33.04 # bye bye 15.33.05 # rasher: yes, that seeming omnipotence used to freak me out 15.33.05 # haha 15.33.08 Part LinusN 15.33.15 # ask a question, and bam, people are falling in answering it 15.33.38 # it would be more scary if the log wasn't public 15.33.46 # turning your perception of the world on its head 15.33.46 # heh 15.34.02 # the wiki now says ogg decoding is running above 100%, this is not true, is it? 15.34.08 # no 15.34.15 # not as far as i know 15.34.47 # there should be a codec status on the codec page instead 15.34.54 # i agree. 15.34.56 # yup 15.35.17 # * rasher creates it 15.35.57 # HCl: I have an optical cable for my iriver but I don't have anything to plug it in to. 15.36.23 # Maybe I could come by your house so we can read the speed on your flat mate's stereo? 15.36.51 # give him some dirty porn, he'll surely let you use it 15.38.07 # HCl: Are you at home right now? 15.38.27 # yea 15.38.28 # i am 15.38.42 # i dunno if my flatmate actually has something useful to plug it into though 15.38.45 # let me ask first 15.38.52 # ok 15.40.36 # i don't think fiber transmission was even invented when my amp was made 15.41.04 # i don't think he's home. 15.41.20 # Then I'll drop by the cable anyway, ok? 15.42.34 # okay 15.43.01 Join ABE [0] (~aberg@lsn-boi-catv-c124-p061.vtx.ch) 15.43.06 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Remote closed the connection) 15.43.13 # i have no idea whether it'll be any use though :/ 15.43.26 # i just know he used to have an optical cable... 15.43.29 # from his stereo, i think 15.48.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status 15.48.25 # please correct it 15.50.30 # done 15.51.05 # :) 15.52.29 # just fixed some flac stuff and an overly optimistic non-cvs-opt statement 15.53.10 # heh 15.53.20 # it does run over 200% on some files, though 15.53.31 # but it's not consistent 15.53.51 # alright 16.02.29 Join Tomas|laptop [0] (~tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 16.02.31 # hi 16.03.36 # anybody here close to the Netherlands? 16.04.04 # there are several _in_ the netherlands 16.04.42 # yeah, and they are all happy i guess :D 16.05.01 # it's 18 degrees celcius here... while it was -4 last week 16.09.05 Quit R3nTiL () 16.16.38 # *nods* 16.19.56 # Tomas|laptop: similar here (Berlin, 17 deg. C) 16.20.00 Nick tvelocity is now known as tvelocity[away] (~tony@ipa159.4.tellas.gr) 16.20.13 # oh cool, where in berlin do you live? 16.20.43 # got an optical cable of markun.. gonna see if my flatmate has optical in on his stereo.. 16.25.38 Join AC [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 16.25.49 # hi all 16.25.52 # such a nic 16.25.54 # e day 16.26.00 # yeah 16.26.03 # 10 degresse and sunshine :) 16.26.06 # 18 here 16.26.07 # 18 16.26.11 # I'm in the garden :D 16.26.31 # that seems to be a nice idead 16.27.22 # still snow here 16.27.25 # nice weather, though 16.27.34 # yeah, but my battery is almost empty :X 16.27.41 # so I gotta move :( 16.27.45 Quit Tomas|laptop ("c ya") 16.27.49 # here in austria is still some snow.... 16.28.28 # i have seen snow, about... 3 times in my life 16.32.13 Join T0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 16.32.14 # hi 16.32.17 # back 16.32.21 # wb 16.32.31 # i see it daily 16.32.43 # won't miss it when it goes 16.32.47 # tnx 16.35.09 # it has snowed here ONCE the last 20 years 16.35.18 # so i pretty much miss it 16.35.26 # arg 16.35.27 # greece 16.35.36 # where in greece are you 16.35.41 # crete 16.35.51 # * T0mas was on a little island karpathos last year 16.35.55 # really nice :D 16.38.19 Join wacky_ [0] (~wacky@modemcable040.196-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 16.40.02 # it's nice here only for vacation, but generaly it pretty much sucks 16.42.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.50.53 Quit wacky_ ("ahu") 16.58.02 # mmmm 16.58.30 # * HCl found a cool site regarding tcpa while looking at the mod player 16.58.38 # www.againsttcpa.com 17.03.10 Join Cassandra__ [0] (~christi@213.78.103.236) 17.07.56 # oops, forgot about the 48mhz test 17.07.59 # running it now 17.11.01 Quit Cassandra_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.14.04 Join geoff_o [0] (geoff@HSE-Kitchener-ppp229235.sympatico.ca) 17.17.41 Quit Bagder ("Off to search for that connect-resetting peer guy!") 17.20.02 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 17.24.00 Quit AC ("CGI:IRC") 17.27.31 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.29.36 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 17.29.36 Join NibbIer [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 17.29.42 Quit Nibbler (Client Quit) 17.38.51 # * tvelocity[away] np Armin van Buuren - A State of Trance episode 186 03-03-2005 17.41.30 Part MoosCamaro 17.46.55 Join bippy [0] (~51982721@labb.contactor.se) 17.47.20 Join mecraw [0] (fwuser@69.2.235.2) 17.47.21 Nick tvelocity[away] is now known as tvelocity (~tony@ipa159.4.tellas.gr) 17.48.13 Quit bippy (Client Quit) 17.48.56 Join einhirn_ [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 17.49.37 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.50.02 Nick einhirn_ is now known as einhirn (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 17.59.58 Quit Schee4 (Success) 18.00.10 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 18.01.25 Join Schee4 [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-8-19.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.05.33 Part Lynx_ 18.05.49 Join Lynx_ [0] (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 18.19.10 Join Aison [0] (hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 18.24.13 Nick kergoth`zzz is now known as kergoth (~kergoth@covenant.kergoth.com) 18.25.25 Quit Patr3ck_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.28.46 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@1Cust55.tnt6.hnr2.deu.da.uu.net) 18.29.55 # high 18.30.01 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@217.30.249.180) 18.30.02 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (~munkee@abyss2.demon.co.uk) 18.30.07 # yo 18.30.20 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.42.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.47.38 Join muesli_ [0] (muesli_tv@c-180-220-96.cvx-h.dial.de.ignite.net) 18.56.04 Quit R3nTiL (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.56.11 Quit ABE (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.11.42 Quit muesli- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.13.06 Part geoff_o ("Kopete 0.9.1 : http://kopete.kde.org") 19.18.08 Quit webmind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.21.14 Quit Schnueff ("leaving") 19.33.38 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m224.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 19.34.01 Quit muesli_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.47.34 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.205) 19.48.08 Join webmind [0] (~cme2@home.expr42.net) 19.48.50 Quit webmind (Client Quit) 19.49.40 Join webmind [0] (~cme2@home.expr42.net) 19.51.41 Part MoosCamaro 19.59.34 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@c-180-220-118.cvx-h.dial.de.ignite.net) 20.00.30 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 20.04.23 # re 20.09.53 Join thegeek_ [0] (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 20.10.01 # wow... missed a lot of talking since I left 3,5 hours ago :P 20.13.23 # :) 20.15.17 # yup 20.16.38 # * rasher waits for another battery test to finish 20.16.52 # still? 20.17.09 # takes just over 3 hours 20.20.44 # oops, getting a bit hot 20.20.53 # * rasher lies it in a draft 20.21.16 # ha!, while you were waiting for the batterytest to finish I have completely reorganized my room and cleaned it. 20.21.19 Nick thegeek_ is now known as thegeek (na@ti521110a080-0416.bb.online.no) 20.21.20 # ;) 20.21.42 # thegeek, what a geeky thing to do:P 20.21.48 # humhum 20.21.56 # well I've not just been sitting here staring at it ::) 20.22.05 Quit muesli- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.22.06 # I was getting annoyed with having my desk in front of my window, I hate cold hands 20.22.54 # * rasher impatiently waits for gnome to get composite support 20.23.25 # bah, I hate cleaning my room 20.23.42 # metacity has composite support in CVS AFAIK 20.24.02 # when I start I am always really enthusiastic, but halfway through I realize I should never have started, and then I just kinda sit down and look at the huge mess 20.24.15 # tvelocity: ooooh 20.24.39 # looks like 2.12 will be the hot release 20.25.06 # 2.12 will also support cairo. which is uber-cool :) 20.25.11 # cairo, compositing 20.25.16 # indeed 20.25.40 # compositing 20.25.41 # ? 20.25.57 # preglow, real transparencies, shadows, etc 20.26.03 # xcompmgr! 20.26.10 # that's just a silly hack 20.26.18 # the window manager needs to take care of it 20.26.28 # yeah i agree with rasher 20.26.36 # or possibly even the toolkit 20.26.38 # haha, i don't know, i just tried it the other day 20.26.42 # xcompmgr has many side-effects 20.26.42 # so, when's 2.12 due? 20.26.47 # september 20.26.47 # 6 months 20.26.50 # ouch 20.27.16 # * rasher will be tracking grumpygroundhog 20.29.22 Quit webmind ("brb") 20.29.42 Join webmind [0] (~cme2@home.expr42.net) 20.32.29 # actually, the more I think of it, I think gtk should know about compositig 20.32.29 Quit Cassandra__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.32.42 # so you can have transparant widgets and opaque ones 20.33.26 # well, of course it should 20.33.36 # having shadows around the tooltips blobs wasn't very cool, heh 20.40.46 # that's pretty dumb yes 20.42.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.01.18 # hm... 21.01.23 # little c++ question.. 21.01.30 # I have something like this: 21.01.34 # char tmp[3]; 21.01.40 # infile >> tmp; 21.01.51 # where infile is a ifstream 21.02.22 # but why doesn't it crash when I read a line of 10 chars from the file? into a 3 char array... 21.03.19 # it works normally... and I can use all 10 characters in the 3 char array :X 21.03.46 # it'll only crash after it tries to read the stack pointer. 21.04.21 Join webmind_ [0] (~random@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 21.04.35 # strange... i tought it would crash after the first line loaded... 21.04.41 # no. 21.04.41 # of overwrite some other var... 21.04.45 # of = or 21.04.49 # well, it should overwrite some other var. 21.05.03 # yeah, so I checked the others... nothing happened to them... 21.05.14 # maybe its some odd c++ thing. 21.05.17 # maybe just a little luck with memory assignement? 21.05.20 # or maybe your platform. 21.05.24 # windows :) 21.05.56 # thats probably it. 21.08.44 # yay for my internet connection 21.08.50 # 11mbit up/down without limits 21.10.03 # lookslike running the cpu at 1/3 speed does a real difference ("surprise") 21.10.22 # mmm? 21.10.25 # how much? 21.10.40 # about an hour 21.10.50 # mk 21.10.59 # 1 on ? 21.11.05 # 3->4 21.11.12 # ok, that's 33% 21.11.40 # (what device? iriver? archos?) 21.11.47 # iriver. 21.11.54 Quit webmind (Remote closed the connection) 21.12.04 # hm... isn't it really short? or was it with disk running fulltime? 21.12.13 # disk running full time 21.12.23 # rasher: how long has it been running? 21.12.24 # unoptimized codec 21.12.42 # just over 4 hours now 21.13.04 # the other stopped at 2:45 21.13.11 # wow 21.13.30 # i would not have thought it made such a difference 21.13.38 # battery at C5 (197) now 21.13.52 # which is like 4-5 minutes from dying 21.14.12 # woot 21.14.24 # preglow: sounds intresting for our timer idea :D 21.14.31 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a252.wi.tds.net) 21.14.32 # looking forward to seeing the graph 21.14.56 # T0mas: yup 21.15.09 # very much 21.15.12 # timer idea? 21.15.24 # put the device into low-power mmode 21.15.30 # and have it sleep for a given time 21.15.32 # HCl: make it run at te lowest possible speed, with no disk and backlight 21.15.39 # lookslike cpu speed really matters 21.15.47 # at least, matters significantly 21.15.52 # yeah.. 21.16.05 # I could try writing a plugin that doesn't use hdd 21.16.08 # i'd like to use my player as a wakeup alarm 21.16.15 # that'd take a while though :-\ 21.16.26 # and then? 21.16.37 # rasher: what do you mean not use hdd? 21.16.41 # so i was pondering on the feasability of powering down everything possible, and just running a timer interrupt 21.16.42 # oh. it can do that fine. 21.16.44 # i once like.. 21.16.49 # with normal iriver fw 21.16.55 # i played some music during the day 21.16.59 # and i was listening to radio with it 21.17.02 # before going to sleep 21.17.04 # and when i woke up 21.17.08 # i found it was still playing radio 21.17.10 # ahh 21.17.11 # yeah 21.17.11 # and i forgot to turn it off 21.17.11 # T0mas: just do cpu-work and graph that 21.17.15 # it can for hours and hours in radio mode 21.17.23 # rasher: oooh ok 21.17.35 # and see the difference between 120mhz and 11mhz 21.17.36 # HCl: i do that ever few day's... 21.17.38 # i used for an entire day in radio mode, and was still four battery meter 21.17.55 # FULL battery meter 21.18.05 # yeah, but radio doesn't use hdd and cpu... 21.18.19 # exactly, and neither will it in wakeup mode 21.18.24 # indeed :D 21.18.33 # it'll use even less power then 21.18.44 # yeah, no sound output either 21.19.05 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 21.19.47 # how does that timerinterrupt work? is it settable? or just one interrupt per clockcycle? 21.20.20 # rasher: is it done already"#% 21.20.30 # no.. 21.20.38 # i'm starting to doubt the misreading theory 21.20.51 # the samples that stick out follow the level too closely 21.20.51 # misreading? 21.20.51 # going down now 21.20.57 # B8 21.21.07 # C2 now :-\ 21.21.09 # b8? 21.21.17 # it shouldn't ever reach b8 21.21.17 # heh 21.21.37 # it did in the last test as well 21.21.51 # queer, linux said the range was from c0-ff 21.21.55 # linuS 21.22.08 # my fingers do their own type of autocompletion, blast them 21.22.15 # well someone is lying then 21.22.32 # docs, iriver, linus.. no idea 21.22.48 # lol, I too keep on typing Linux in stead of Linus... 21.22.50 # linus is lying, clearly 21.22.55 # he's trying to thwart your efforts 21.23.06 # *sniff* 21.23.24 # i'll go wash some dishes 21.23.26 # "5 movie channels - one for each taste" .. uhm.. 21.23.39 # (some ad here) 21.24.05 # reminds me of the Blues Brothers.. "we've got both kinds of music.. Country AND Western" 21.24.41 # B6 now 21.24.42 # B4 21.24.45 # B3 21.24.49 # DIE ALREADY! 21.25.18 # B1.. 21.25.51 # I should try saving measurement at each screen update 21.27.13 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 21.27.27 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 21.28.37 # 9a now.. 21.28.49 # it certainly isn't c0-ff 21.29.13 # there it went 21.35.43 # graph? 21.37.43 Join lurker [0] (~c3a69726@labb.contactor.se) 21.40.48 Quit lurker (Client Quit) 21.41.06 Join flippy [0] (~c3a69726@labb.contactor.se) 21.41.22 Join Chamois [0] (~3e234217@labb.contactor.se) 21.42.28 # i make a test few days ago that i give to linus 21.42.29 # http://chamois94.free.fr/Battery.txt 21.42.33 # for the batery 21.42.52 # i think it's why he says C0 21.44.36 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m224.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 21.45.20 # i think it depends battery 21.45.26 # mine is like died 21.45.42 # yes, obviously 21.50.17 Join Renko [0] (~Renko@host217-43-110-38.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) 21.50.59 Part Chamois 21.51.47 # hm... what about porting apache to rockbox? 21.51.50 # :P 21.52.23 # you'd need some way to talk to the outside world 21.52.23 Quit flippy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.53.04 # through USB? 21.53.23 # won't work on iriver 21.53.40 # too bad 21.53.41 # :/ 21.55.06 # there's not feasible ways of achieving that that i can think of, tvelocity 21.55.07 # the usb happens outside the os's control 21.55.31 # every communication channel besides usb would be too slow for it to be practical 21.55.43 # who said anything about practical? 21.56.04 # yeah :) 21.56.19 # haha, well, then you can communicate across the serial port 21.56.27 # the remote spi channel could be used as well 21.56.40 # and let's not forget optical in/out 21.57.07 # flash the lcd to morse, recieved by a webcam 21.57.22 # flash hdd led as well, two bit morse 21.57.30 # hm 21.57.40 # what about running folding@home on it?:P 21.57.44 # or better yet, make the webcam decipher the lcd contents, you can fit a lot of bits on it 21.59.23 # but yo, rasher, plotting the data yet? :PP 21.59.24 # *nag* 21.59.36 # right.. I have it.. let me upload 22.09.09 # ooops 22.11.06 # hmm 22.11.14 # there 22.11.16 # there are still a couple of glitches 22.11.41 # yes 22.12.58 # Maybe I should write status more often 22.13.13 # right now I'm only writing each time the buffer's empty 22.13.38 # *shrug* 22.15.09 Join Dicko [0] (~chatzilla@spc1-bexl2-5-0-cust208.asfd.broadband.ntl.com) 22.16.05 # Woo Hoo, I just managed to build my first iriver firmware! 22.16.13 # grats 22.18.06 # Couple of probs with the dailybuild.zip. missing global.h in ../apps/codecs/libFLAC/include/ 22.19.17 # and ../apps/plugins/snake2.levels which stops make zip... 22.20.24 # Where do I get the rockboy sources from? 22.21.43 # rockboy's in cvs 22.22.37 Quit T0mas (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.26.55 # I'm not very familliar with cvs, what would the command be to extract the rockboy source? 22.27.16 Quit lolo-laptop ("Client exiting") 22.27.20 # well if you have built it you should have it already 22.27.24 # apps/plugins/rockboy 22.27.37 # i think he's compiling from a zip 22.27.56 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS 22.28.09 # don't they have what cvs have? 22.28.22 # well, apparently not 22.28.27 # i dunno 22.28.30 # never used them 22.28.47 # rockboy doesn't seem to be in the daily build zip 22.29.21 # what do i need to extract from cvs to get it? rockbox or rockbox-devel? 22.30.00 # rockbox has it 22.31.15 # it should be in the daily tarball 22.33.17 # me fix 22.33.30 # * tvelocity np Global Underground 027 Mixed by Danny Howells 22.33.43 # Bagder: there was some whispering about missing global.h in libFLAC as well 22.34.15 # I'll fix that too 22.36.58 # Don't forget snake2.levels too ;-) 22.36.58 # done 22.37.53 # done that too now 22.42.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.00.45 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 23.11.18 Quit Aison (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.11.38 Join F1^Aison [0] (hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 23.25.35 Join webmind [0] (~cme2@home.expr42.net) 23.30.36 Quit F1^Aison (Client Quit) 23.30.50 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 23.34.26 Quit Dicko ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20050228]") 23.40.01 Quit webmind_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.45.57 Quit Renko (Remote closed the connection) 23.46.31 Nick tvelocity is now known as tvelocity[away] (~tony@ipa159.4.tellas.gr) 23.56.33 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7FD50.dip.t-dialin.net)