--- Log for 23.03.105 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 hours and 36 minutes ago 00.00.06 # with motorola 68000 00.00.12 # I did assembly with it 00.00.19 # I cracked a game once 00.00.31 # it was lotus esprit turbo challenge 00.00.35 # welcome back to the 80s! ;-) 00.00.39 # in fact I just changed one byte 00.00.41 # lol 00.00.50 # I changed a andy operator to a move 00.00.58 # andy was generating random numbers 00.01.20 # and I fixed the number, so it was always the same symbol for the test 00.01.25 # I was proud of myself 00.01.26 # lol 00.02.10 # Bagder: what did you reverse enginered the iriver firmware ? 00.02.15 # -what 00.02.22 # we didn't 00.02.27 # ok 00.02.38 # what do you use as a base ? 00.02.44 # some minor checks have been done, but not much 00.02.46 # base? 00.02.47 # I mean do you use a kernel ? 00.02.51 # Rockbox 00.02.59 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 00.03.19 # Bagder: the kernel is based on linux or started from scratch ? 00.03.26 # from scratch 00.03.44 # the archos models have 2MB ram in total 00.03.53 # few 00.03.57 # rockbox is <200K for them, including everything 00.04.17 # I don't know how much for the iriver, but I guss it's bigger, since caching seems bigger 00.04.23 # caching of mp3 00.04.30 # they have 32mb 00.04.55 # do you think that iriver used a higher level OS than you ?* 00.05.03 # they didn't 00.05.07 # still looks the same, but its ok X: 00.05.20 # CoCoLUS: what do you mean ? 00.05.41 # night 00.05.42 # they didn't use linux for their h1x0 firmware 00.05.57 # sorry. 00.06.05 # yo 00.06.10 # CoCoLUS: they used something similar to rockbox ? 00.06.28 # I am just wondering how optimised the code they use is 00.06.39 # so disassemble it 00.06.39 # ;p 00.06.51 # who cares 00.07.06 # me 00.07.12 # why? 00.07.19 # I wonder if 10fps is the max this machine can do 00.07.27 # for a xvid 00.07.37 # * CoCoLUS wonders if linux on the h1x0 would make sense 00.07.46 # why would you even want to play an xvid on a 2bit display? 00.07.55 # lol 00.08.02 # unless you're referring to the PMP or h3x0 00.08.03 # well the H300 00.08.06 # H300 00.08.08 # I got one 00.08.10 # which is still: why? 00.08.15 # I encoded movies for it 00.08.20 # gahhh 00.08.23 # and the result is in fact satisfying 00.08.23 # HCl: this patch is patching from current cvs to the time i leached it. you probably realized it.. 00.08.27 # * HCl gnaws on the crlf's of windows 00.08.30 # * Rick doesn't see the point when there are devices out there dedicated to playing such files 00.08.43 # Rick: I don't have one 00.08.51 # yea, i saw that it wasn't entirely up to date 00.08.55 # actually they are bigger 00.08.56 # HCl: dos2unix 00.08.56 # shru 00.08.57 # +g 00.08.58 # :D 00.09.00 # to big 00.09.03 # heya rasher 00.09.05 # what's shakin'? 00.09.16 # E: Couldn't find package dos2unix 00.09.19 # someone familiar with uclinux here? 00.09.22 # I would rather buy a last generation portable computer than a PMP 00.09.28 # HCl: sysutils 00.09.32 # CoCoLUS: i came across it when looking for a m68k setjmp.h solution 00.09.43 # I mean the PMP is more transportable than really portable 00.09.50 # and surely not pocketable 00.09.52 # does it work with the coldfire? 00.09.57 # probably 00.10.01 # it has m68k stuff 00.10.19 # but I don't see the point of running linux on the iriver either 00.10.19 # ;P 00.10.22 # what do you think, how much work/time would be needed to get it working on the iriver? 00.10.23 # I am interested in toying with rockbox 00.10.29 # Rick: well that's not the question 00.10.34 # ok. HCL: i will make a good patch now. 00.10.39 # I don't want to run linux 00.10.49 # mirak: hehe 00.11.17 # only question is is it possible to get higher frame rate ^^ 00.11.38 # also 10fps on a so small screen is not that uncomfortable 00.11.50 # I don't know 00.11.51 # mm.. i already got mine applied.. 00.11.55 # HCl: what? 00.12.02 # talking to xshock o.o 00.12.05 # Rick: you have never seen how it is ? 00.12.23 # mirak: I don't have an h3x0, I have an h120 00.12.26 # well nevermind, I have a last question 00.12.46 # HC: should it be CR or LF? 00.12.46 # I am wondering about how you test the firmware 00.12.59 # how do you mean? 00.13.08 # how do you test it ? 00.13.13 # define test 00.13.22 # hum 00.13.32 # "define test" 00.13.38 # are you named HAL ? 00.13.39 # ;) 00.13.40 # it should be CRLF on win, LF on nix :) 00.13.42 # no 00.13.56 # Rick: HAL is the computer in 2001 00.13.59 # I don't know what you mean by test, do you mean troubleshooting bugs? 00.14.03 # or what? 00.14.24 # I know who HAL is :P 00.14.29 # Rick: no I mean, how often do you really test the firmware on the H100 00.14.41 # and if take the letters H, A and L, and add +1 in the alphabet you get 00.14.42 # I am running it right now 00.14.44 # IBM :P 00.14.46 # and doing plugin development 00.14.57 # how can you flash it back ? 00.15.09 # simply boot the original firmware and update firmware 00.15.40 # can you always get back the original firmware ? 00.15.46 # I mean is in rom ? 00.15.47 # should be able to 00.15.49 # is it 00.16.04 # with the reset bouton ? 00.16.11 # XShocK: its fine, i got it 00.16.14 # you're not actually booting rockbox 00.16.24 # i'm cleaning it a little, if it passes the test, and everything still works, i'll commit it 00.16.27 # what ? 00.16.28 # you're booting a patched firmware which then loads rockbox (or continues in original firmware) 00.16.40 # ok 00.16.54 # HCl: watcha working on? 00.17.04 # the patched firmware was kind of hacked ? 00.17.31 # mirak: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot 00.17.49 # in file pcm_playback.c in function pcm_play_data(..) there shall not be a line "pcm_setvol....", delete it 00.18.00 # i'm not entirely happy about this line: 00.18.02 # void* addr = (void*)((((unsigned int)addr_r) >> 2) << 2); // always align 00.18.02 # data, never pass unaligned data 00.18.18 # that can drop a few bytes of music.. 00.18.35 # XShocK: ok 00.18.53 # Rick: have you ver though using something like qemu to have a virtual testing environnement ? 00.18.57 # ever 00.19.32 # ok. but passing things like they are, no aligned will lead to very bad bug ( it will just not play it.. ) 00.19.34 # XShocK: what about that alignment line...? 00.19.35 # mirak: we can use rockbox's uisimulator 00.19.45 # yea.. okay.. 00.19.45 # but. 00.19.45 # ok 00.19.55 # then you need to specify in the api that the address needs to be aligned 00.20.06 # which could be a serious pain 00.20.19 # Rick: have you tried to get in touch with iriver to get the specs of the machines ? 00.20.36 # i understand... but data should(not 100% sure though) be aligned, and size also should be multiple of 4. 00.20.40 # No, I'm not that deep into iriver development 00.20.45 # I'm just a rockbox plugin dev 00.20.50 # ok 00.20.56 # otherwise CE error in DMA will fire, and sound must be stopped. 00.20.59 # and some others ? 00.21.06 # mhm. 00.21.09 # from what I understand most if not is already known 00.21.24 # okay, well, so far so good 00.21.25 # sorry for the question, it will and in a few seconds ^^ 00.21.29 # i'm gonna compile and test it 00.21.31 # ok, good night 00.21.35 # byz 00.21.36 # mirak: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPort - 'Hardware information' 00.21.37 # does anyone have a sample.wav around? 00.21.53 # HCl: make one with mpa2wav :) 00.21.54 # HCl: just make one yourself? :p 00.22.04 # hehe 00.22.04 # rasher: good point. 00.22.12 # i haven't used mpa2wav as of yet 00.22.22 # ok ok, compile time 00.22.35 # HCl: how's sound support in rockboy coming? 00.22.39 # and rename it of course.. with rockbox :) 00.22.48 # Rick: xshock got it to work. 00.22.57 # wao, good going XShocK ;) 00.22.59 # i applied his patch and am compiling it now 00.23.00 # but it is not good at all. 00.23.06 # i mean sound. 00.23.10 # ah 00.23.14 # what's the problem? 00.23.19 # it is sluggish... and i suspect it is rockboy.... 00.23.26 # I wouldn't doubt it ;P 00.23.31 # its most likely not at full speed 00.23.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.25.09 # make some sort of norender plugin so it just does sound and try a rom with music for intro? :p 00.26.01 # Rick: thanks, I will dig into that after my exams 00.26.24 # it might as well be rbsound.c code which i wrote.. but i read it through several times, and hope it is right 00.26.35 # Hehe 00.27.05 # by the way, how long does yield() function yields? :) 00.27.51 # it didn't slow rockboy down much 00.27.55 # when we added it 00.28.04 # ah 00.28.25 # how does it perform with the iriver overclocked? 00.28.56 # same as without overclocking. 00.29.00 # aw ;P 00.29.54 # there is something that I don't like on H300,it is that firmware handle bad the names with more tha 52 caracters 00.30.12 # mirak: you mean can't handle? 00.30.15 # so a folder with such names is not sorted appropriately 00.30.37 # oh, now I see what you mean 00.30.43 # the firmware only use the 52 first caracters to do the sorting 00.30.44 # I don't think the rockbox has that problem 00.30.57 # I don't see any reason it would in fact 00.31.05 # I don't know how they codded their stuff 00.31.29 # why 52 seems a problem also in the database thing 00.31.52 # either they optimised the firmware to the max, or they did a crap thing 00.33.26 # good noght 00.33.28 Quit mirak ("Leaving") 00.34.00 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.39.48 # * HCl searches for headphones 00.41.57 # do i just play an mp3 to write it to wav? 00.42.19 # no, "open with" 00.42.22 # hold down select 00.42.30 # ah. 00.42.38 # * HCl searches for a reset thing 00.42.45 # HCl: to play rockboy you don't need to run the debug menu thingy 00.43.21 # i know that XD 00.43.28 # just want to check whether music still works 00.44.00 # aah. ok. :) 00.46.00 # to what file does mpa2wav write? 00.46.54 # /libmadtest.wav 00.46.57 # k. 00.47.15 # its running at 45%... 00.47.41 # increasing cpu clock to 120 will make it 110% 00.47.46 # yea.. 00.47.55 # we're gonna have to optimize it a lot 00.48.01 # we can't make it be in 120mhz all the time 00.48.15 # preglow has it running at around 200% on some files 00.48.20 # yea.. 00.48.24 # and removing the disk writes helps 00.48.44 # ohyea, i forgot about that.. 00.48.44 # btw, those battery results.. was the player going with hard disk on all the time? 00.48.50 # XShocK: pretty much 00.48.54 # except the last one, yes 00.50.14 # does the iriver firmware ever write to disk? 00.50.28 # yes. 00.50.31 # when? 00.50.33 # you can delet files 00.50.37 # ohyea.. 00.50.37 # delete 00.50.59 # and also recording 00.50.59 # and rename 00.51.01 # of sound 00.51.22 # doh 00.51.23 # i'm stupid 00.51.27 # ofcourse. recording. 00.51.36 # its a shame they never implemented creating playlists 00.53.04 # oh.. I'm braindead. 00.53.08 # no rename. 00.53.13 # that's on rockbox 00.53.15 # :) 00.58.07 # um 00.58.12 # xshock, does your patch break sound? 00.58.22 # it just quits immediately when i try to play sample.wav 00.59.02 # no. it wokrs fine 00.59.33 # aaah yes 00.59.44 # i must've messed something up.. sound in rockboy doesn't work properly either, all i hear is clicks 01.00.12 # strating playing of sound resolves the problem... 01.00.38 # in debug... about rockboy, you should hear clicking music... 01.00.51 # do you have a new patch i can apply..? 01.00.57 # plays in the mario1 at least 01.00.59 # i think i'll just revert to cvs and try again 01.01.08 # ok.. i will do 01.01.49 Quit lolo-laptop ("Client exiting") 01.08.47 # ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/patchik 01.08.50 # oh. try to cvs update while you're at it 01.08.50 # okay 01.09.05 # i compared it to the newest cvs 01.09.11 # otherway around 01.09.18 # i suspect it is again otherway 01.09.19 # swap your source and destination... when you diff. 01.09.22 # but its okay 01.09.25 # i can just do patch -R 01.09.29 # and do a reverse patch 01.09.30 # i spawed.. the same result... 01.09.36 # its ok 01.09.39 # i'll manage 01.10.21 # okay, patched 01.10.25 # let me try it again.. 01.17.32 # i still get the same thing. 01.17.45 # it just dumps out of it without playing any music 01.17.45 # run mario1. 01.17.50 # aaa ok 01.17.52 # run it again 01.17.57 # it will work. 01.18.05 # * HCl runs audio test again.. 01.18.17 # nope 01.18.24 # it just dumps straight out and goes back to the debug menu 01.18.37 # :/ 01.18.43 # rockbox.zip on my ftp 01.18.49 # ftp://titania.student.utwente.nl/rockbox.zip 01.18.55 # i just applied your patch and compiled it 01.19.01 # :) strange bug 01.19.05 # overclock the cpu 01.19.10 # and run again 01.19.10 # mk 01.19.39 # ah. 01.19.39 # i think i know why.. 01.19.40 # that did it. 01.19.49 # mmrr. 01.19.51 # air rules :3 01.19.55 # air - all i need ^^ 01.20.04 # :) 01.20.35 # it gets cut off though ;/ 01.20.38 # obviously 01.20.41 # i put uda1380 initalization code immidiately after initalization of i2c. maybe later some code overwrites or reset something 01.20.46 # :) 01.20.50 # okay 01.20.55 # think you can investigate that bit a bit? 01.20.58 # no need to rush 01.21.02 # sure 01.21.10 # but i'd rather get it fairly bug free before committing 01.21.15 # * HCl moves on to test rockboy 01.21.31 # it is horribly clicky... 01.22.02 # did it slow down at all, or is it still running at a playable speed? 01.22.14 # * pabs uses rockboy every day, and doesn't want to upgrade if it's fucked 01.22.24 # it is fucked. :) 01.22.28 # but not slow. 01.22.31 # just horrible sound 01.22.43 # pshaw, i can turn that off 01.22.54 # is it in cvs? 01.22.57 # no 01.22.58 # its just clicking 01.23.04 # run the game itself 01.23.09 # i have :/ 01.23.12 # still just clicking 01.23.15 # mario1 ? 01.23.15 # i'll try something else 01.23.18 # yes 01.23.38 # can i get ye olde patch, i'll give it a shot here too 01.23.56 # rockbox either needs to open up cvs more, or it needs another mirror somewhere 01.24.02 # * pabs doesn't like this sending around patches sillyness 01.24.12 # it needs neither. 01.24.16 # these patches are experimental 01.24.23 # the cvs is supposed to be semi stable 01.24.36 # HCl: that's what branches are for 01.24.53 # *shrugs* 01.24.57 # either way, its not up to me.. 01.25.01 # XShocK: its just doing clicks here... 01.25.30 # hmmm. 01.25.42 # (and, just for reference, that's how {open,net,free}bsd, mozilla, enlightenment, and countless other large projects use cvs) 01.27.12 # how do i apply patch to the folder? 01.27.27 # XShocK: patch < foo.patch 01.27.39 # patch -p0/1/2 < foo.patch 01.27.42 # start of with -p0 01.27.46 # and increase if it refuses 01.27.51 # till it works 01.28.34 # are any other way? i tried it before, my cygwin does not have it. 01.29.02 # no :/ 01.29.15 # you probably need to install it with that cygwin installer thing? 01.29.17 # i will put it ther 01.29.21 # yes 01.29.37 # anyways 01.29.39 # i gotta go sleep now 01.30.26 # good night.. 01.30.41 # but first read some more in my hellsing manga :3 01.30.43 # nightnight 01.30.44 # XShocK: do you mind if i ahve a look at your patch? 01.30.47 # keep up the good work :3 01.31.15 # :) 01.31.25 # sure. ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/patchik 01.32.56 # XShocK: checking 01.33.19 # do reverse of this patch.. 01.33.32 # i don't know how to make normal patches.. :) 01.34.13 # XShocK: diff -ur olddir newdir 01.34.30 # XShocK: diff -ur olddir newdir | gzip -c > patchfile.diff.gz 01.34.45 # or just diff -ur oldfile newfile > patch.diff 01.34.56 # (-u is universal format, and -r means recursive) 01.35.17 # obviously -r isn't necessary for single files but i just type it out of habit :-D 01.35.23 # s/universal/unified/ 01.35.46 # and you forgot N, which is required if you want to show files that are in one of the dirs and not the other 01.35.47 # kergoth: yeah, sorry 01.35.58 # -urNd is what i generally use 01.36.13 # thanks for info. :) 01.36.17 # :) 01.36.21 # word 01.53.30 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 01.53.31 # yep. hcl, there are only clicks... i forgot to add something then. 01.53.57 # k, glad to hear its not just me 01.54.01 # *just put his hellsing away* 01.54.09 # the manga is so much better than the anime 01.54.14 # * HCl goes to sleep, night 01.54.19 # :) 01.54.21 # night 01.56.13 # aaah yes.... 01.57.02 # ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/pcm.h 01.57.21 # in rockboy directory... i changed the type of buf from byte* to short* 01.57.30 # ah 02.01.25 # ok changed that, i'll test it tomorrow. 02.01.41 # it'd be nice if you can take a look at it not working at lower frequencies...night. 02.02.32 # what do you mean? 02.02.37 # i didn't understand 02.02.50 # sample.wav not playing properly at lower frequencies 02.03.28 # you mean 22050.. 02.03.45 # eh. remember i had to cpu boost before it would work.. 02.03.46 # that. 02.03.50 # anyways.. night 02.03.54 # ok. bight 02.03.59 # nght 02.04.51 # pabs are you here? 02.07.37 # ftp://raurin.no-ip.com/latest_files.zip 02.07.44 # test it if you want 02.14.40 # zonk 02.14.40 # XShocK: i'm here, i'll give it a shot in a second 02.16.51 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 02.24.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.47.14 Quit XShocK (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC") 02.50.59 Quit tvelocity () 02.55.47 Quit DeadMan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.55.47 Quit Stryke` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.17.24 Quit Ais (Broken pipe) 03.23.15 Quit cYmen ("uff") 03.35.41 Join Mong0 [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-069-132-071-101.carolina.rr.com) 03.59.26 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.05.37 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.07.07 Quit elinenbe (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 04.15.57 Quit QT (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.24.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.24.11 Quit StrathAFK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.54.35 Quit Mong0 ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.1/20050225]") 05.15.04 Join stevenm [0] (~steve@pcp04424903pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 05.21.49 # haha 05.21.53 # well 05.21.58 # I got a response from 'WhackoJacko' 05.22.11 # "its public domain as long as you give me credit. I doubt people will try to 05.22.11 # make a profit out of it though :) 05.22.11 # " 05.26.39 # haha 05.26.45 # credit for what ? 05.27.03 # the original code? :p 05.27.15 # to what ? sorry, caught the tail end of that 05.27.35 # Oh, I ported a game he wrote to rockbox 05.27.40 # oh cool 05.27.44 # archos or iriver ? 05.27.52 # iriver 05.27.57 # aww 05.28.02 # I need to get me one of thems 05.28.17 # hehe 05.29.44 # what's the size of archos lcd? 05.29.48 # there is going to be an 3x0 port, isn't there? 05.30.00 # I wanna say, 120something by 64 ? 05.30.10 # hmm 05.30.19 # how big is this game ? 05.30.45 # 100x100 for normal game 05.30.54 # hmm.. not gonna happen. 05.31.01 # what game is it ? 05.31.03 # http://rick.gibbed.us/projects/rockbox/dump_0002.png 05.31.38 # make everything a pixel smaller ? 05.31.48 # could work 05.32.22 # any news on the codec api ? 05.32.28 # nope 05.32.32 # not that I know of 05.32.50 # how about.. can/how do codecs output stuff to the screen ? 05.33.14 # I have no idea? 05.33.27 # I can see this thing showing stuff other than just the song name.. perhaps it would be possible to even allow the user to mess w/ the channels on the fly 05.33.36 # hmm 05.35.48 Join edx [0] (edx@p548792B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.41.51 Join datazone [0] (~datazone@cf0d1f08.gw101.dsl.airmail.net) 06.24.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.26.34 Quit stevenm ("Leaving") 06.40.03 Join DJ_Dooms_Day|BR [0] (~scottr@dialup-178.82.220.203.acc06-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 06.40.07 Nick DJ_Dooms_Day|BR is now known as DJ_Dooms_Day (~scottr@dialup-178.82.220.203.acc06-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 06.44.40 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a216.wi.tds.net) 06.46.45 # Can anyone help me for a sec? 06.53.50 # ask away 06.54.24 # Its totally unrelated but anyway, do you know what an ICQ UIN is? 07.00.32 # it's an ICQ 'screenname' 07.01.22 # but the place i need to enter mine in thinks its too many numbers 07.02.29 # lol 07.02.33 # outdated then 07.07.06 # Rick: The archos lcd is 112x64 07.43.35 # ..and your game port should be possible to do on it, if you decrease the 'cell size' to 7x5 or 6x5 (these should look better than 5x5, because the archos lcd pixels are not square) from the current 9x9 07.43.59 # YOu could also increase the cell size to 11x11 for the iriver lcd 07.49.06 Join Bonkers [0] (nobody@dyn-wien-208-83.dyn.columbia.edu) 08.00.37 Quit Rob- (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 08.24.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.41.25 Quit Bagder (Remote closed the connection) 08.42.34 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.50.15 Join Rob- [0] (~robbie@haylott.plus.com) 08.58.12 Join webguest64 [0] (~5189b144@labb.contactor.se) 09.11.47 Quit webguest64 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.32.24 Join Lynx_ [0] (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 09.38.46 Join Schnueff [0] (~mah@rosalyn.cs.uni-sb.de) 09.38.50 # moin 09.44.08 Join Bager [0] (~Bager@83.222.160.88) 09.44.12 # hi, guys :) 09.45.04 # hi Bager (Bagder)? 09.45.11 # i know that you don't work active on iRiver H3x0 port, but i just find the USB Host 1.1 (so called USB OnTheGo) chip in internet 09.45.16 # http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/cgi-bin/pldb/pip/ISP1362BD.html 09.45.28 # Schnueff, no, I'm not Bagder :) 09.45.35 # i c :) 09.47.14 # i was looking at http://medulla.co.uk/images/H340/H300-interior/ 09.47.28 # http://medulla.co.uk/images/H340/H300-interior/front_cct_board_scan.jpg <= here 09.47.38 # the scan is not so good, but 09.48.29 # it's ISP1362BD 09.49.14 # so... could some of us add this info in the wiki (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH3XXHardwareComponents) 09.51.59 # u could do it yourself? 09.52.39 # i don't have account 09.52.41 # just register and edit 09.52.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration 09.53.51 # ok, i'm looking at it 09.54.02 # its really easy 09.59.33 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.06.38 # Schnueff how can i upload pic of the chip (is there such possibility in wiki or just html tag) 10.13.33 # HCl ? :) 10.13.50 # he's obviously away 10.18.26 # Bager: use the `Attach' linmk at the bottom 10.19.06 # ok, i haven't seen it 10.20.55 # Schnueff i don't see it again :) 10.21.37 # lemme c 10.21.57 # Don't forget - if you change something, do it in GoodStyle and follow the TextFormattingRules. 10.21.57 # -- Main.HristoKovachev - 23 Mar 2005 <== This is your signature for easy copy & paste operation 10.22.28 # and below button "preview changes" and link "cancel edit" 10.22.36 # did you attach something? 10.22.46 # i dont see a pic in the diffs 10.22.54 # no, i did'nt 10.23.00 # *didn't 10.23.20 # that's why i'm asking you 10.23.37 # ah, u dont see the attach link 10.23.43 # cancel -> then look for attach at the bottom 10.24.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.25.07 # hm, iiuc, this isn't what i want 10.25.38 # u want a direct link? then u may use 10.25.41 # i think it will appear as attachment at the bottom of the page 10.26.04 # yes, i want, but i must put somewhere the .jpg file... 10.27.02 # yes, so do `attach', then upload the pic and select 'Create link' as well as 'Hide file' checkboxes 10.27.17 # (select the checkboxes before uploading) 10.27.35 # then, a link magically has appeared in the topic text, with `Edit' u may move it where u want 10.28.26 # but ... in this way... the page will have an attachment at bottom, won't it? 10.28.39 # not, if u have selected the 'Hide file' checkbox 10.28.44 # sorry for lame questions 10.28.45 # :) 10.28.48 # no problem 10.29.04 # if you select `Hide file', the attachment does not appear in the regular attachment table 10.29.05 # the first time is (nearly) always hard :P 10.29.12 # still, it is attached / associted with the topic 10.29.19 # ok, 10x 10.29.26 # i'll try 10.37.52 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECED57.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.42.51 # ok, done :) 10.44.50 # btw ... 10.45.01 # the chip is generic, as far as i can see 10.45.29 # i mean, there's no hardware limitation in support of only USB Mass Storage 10.45.56 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 10.46.40 Join Heidelessen [0] (~h@pD9530F1A.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.47.53 # so ... if rockbox runs on H3x0, and someone writes drivers ... you can for example ... connect keyboard, Canon cameras (they are not UMS compliant), bluetooth for connection with mobile phone... 10.47.58 # eh... dreams :) 10.48.14 # haha 10.48.16 # that would be neat 10.48.20 # yeah:) 10.48.23 # an iriver with a web browser 10.48.24 # ;P 10.48.55 # if you write drivers for USB lan card and TCP/IP stack and .... html browser :) 10.49.18 # or wireless card 10.49.36 # web server! 10.49.42 # rofl 10.49.45 # but these are really mad dreams :) 10.49.48 # nah 10.49.50 # download pornography 10.49.51 # ;P 10.50.00 # haha 10.50.18 # * rasher giggles at the thought of a player lying with a usb wireless nic servering webpages 10.51.19 # hahaha :) 10.52.57 # btw, i can't see what's the USB 2.0 slave chip... 10.53.17 # there's a nasty sticker on it 10.53.28 # or something like it 10.56.45 Quit Schee (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.59.56 # Yay tax returns! 11.04.43 Join DJ_Dooms_Day|BR [0] (~scottr@dialup-95.28.221.203.acc11-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 11.06.31 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.07.12 # * LinusN is also tired of all the patches floating around 11.07.23 # this is why we have a patch tracker 11.07.27 # LinusN: hi, master ;) 11.07.37 # but for some reason, people don't want to use it 11.07.52 # sniff 11.08.14 # laziness 11.08.32 # i dont' think it's laziness 11.08.41 # hehe 11.08.54 # what kind of patches? 11.09.43 # source 11.09.51 # code 11.09.57 # that's not what I meant 11.10.00 # where are all these patches 11.10.16 # @ sf.net (iirc) 11.10.22 # I'd be happy to create patch tracker item sfor them 11.11.05 # a hot tip is to check the "patches" link in the menu on www.rockbox.org 11.11.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/patches.shtml 11.11.22 # I thought you were referring to patches that wern't listed there 11.11.22 # ;P 11.11.31 # yes i am 11.11.32 # Yeah I meant "the patches floating around" 11.11.49 # That's what I was referring to as well :) 11.11.58 # hehe 11.12.04 # i am talking about xshocks sound patch, for example 11.12.10 # ? 11.12.14 # I thought that was a fix for rockboy 11.12.20 # and hcl is working on it 11.13.26 # it is a fix for rockboy 11.15.15 # heh 11.15.23 # or rather, both pcm playback and rockboy 11.15.33 # ah 11.15.55 # pabs: no, that is not what branches are for 11.16.09 # hmm 11.16.18 # the height for a string will always be the same for a specific font, right? 11.16.24 # yes 11.16.31 # is there a way to get the height of the current font? 11.16.48 # other than getstringsize 11.16.49 # getstringsize 11.16.58 # So whats news? 11.17.14 # Rick: why not getstringsize? 11.17.18 # DJ_Dooms_Day: no news 11.17.19 # How goes playback in rockbox? 11.17.29 # if the height is always the same, I don't see why it needs to be a part of getstringsize() 11.19.06 # Rick: it's quite handy to have both height and width in one function 11.19.10 # well yes 11.19.20 # but it would be handle to be able to get just the height too 11.19.38 # * Rick is looking for the code for lcd_getstringsize right now 11.19.46 # no need to pollute the api with redundant functions 11.19.52 # Hey Linus, btw that greyscale patch doesn't work. I know its not complete but it tends to fuck things up pretty good :P 11.19.58 # I want to see if I can do lcd_getstringsize(NULL, NULL, &height); 11.20.16 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-171-89.tpgi.com.au) 11.20.24 # DJ_Dooms_Day: how does it fuck up? 11.20.43 # The only bug I know of in grayscale, is that it doesn't reset the grayscale after exiting from a plugin 11.20.49 # but I don't remember if you included that in your cleaned up patch 11.21.19 # i didn't 11.21.57 # I guess that's a patch I should have submitted 11.21.57 # ;P 11.22.31 # Linus: Well it SEEMS to make the resolution of hte LCD a hell of a lot bigger. I say resolution because it looks like every second line is not being drawn, or the image is being drawn over every second line (therefore making everything seem big). It cuts a large amount of the screen out. 11.22.39 # LinusN: http://rick.gibbed.us/grayscale-fix.patch 11.23.00 # DJ_Dooms_Day: is this in rockboy? because rockboy does that 11.23.05 # purposely 11.23.20 # No, this is in rockbox 11.23.22 # odd 11.23.35 # I couldn't see the entire menu, it was massive 11.23.56 # is this in the simulator? 11.24.01 Join Schee [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-10-174.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.24.09 # Yep 11.24.17 # the patch is for target 11.24.35 # the sim can't do grayscale yet 11.25.02 # Do you mean it only works if i put it on my iriver? 11.25.11 # I'm guessing the uisimulator is using 1bit when the grayscale is trying to do 2bit 11.25.27 # DJ_Dooms_Day: yes 11.25.28 # that would explain it 11.25.33 # Ahuh 11.25.50 # just another reason not to put it in cvs... :_) 11.26.00 # and why isn't the sim in 2bit? Is it hard or just no one has got around to it? 11.26.28 # DJ_Dooms_Day: no one got around to it 11.26.49 # Right, well that really sucks 11.27.00 # does it? 11.27.09 # looks like I can do rb->lcd_getstringsize(NULL, NULL, &height); from what I see in the code for iriver ;) 11.27.26 # Rick: then all is well 11.27.26 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.27.26 # (btw, how can i kill linkdead dupes of me? isn't there a /ghost command or something?) 11.27.31 # nevermind :P 11.27.33 # although *str++ might not like a NULL 11.27.36 Nick DJ_Dooms_Day|BR is now known as DJ_Dooms_Day (~scottr@dialup-95.28.221.203.acc11-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 11.27.51 # Rick: it doesn't 11.28.01 # yeah, so it'll probably go boom 11.28.01 # :/ 11.28.12 # Just give it a one-letter string 11.28.21 # I guess that works 11.28.23 # Linus: Yes, yes it does suck, i can't test out greyscale logos until the sim works. 11.28.24 # like we do in the rest of the rockbox code 11.28.30 # ah 11.28.49 # DJ_Dooms_Day: run it on the target 11.29.06 # DJ_Dooms_Day: if you're too afraid to do it yourself, I can test your logos for you 11.29.38 # but you shouldn't have any problem doing it yourself 11.29.44 # if it locks up, the reset button will help 11.30.07 # grayscale isn't exactly top priority for us right now, that's why the grayscale support is lagging 11.30.10 # No well i could test it on my iriver but its time consuming, specially since i don't know for sure what the exact greyscale colors are, or what format to put the bmp in in PS 11.30.32 # DJ_Dooms_Day: it's not time consuming 11.30.43 # one could easily whip up a plugin that loads the data from a file 11.31.03 # then all you have to do is mount, copy file, unmount 11.31.28 # One could easily do that if they could code... 11.31.30 # :P 11.34.38 # Well, short of learning some C i don't think i can do much without the help of a bored coder. So i think i'll just wait till it becomes more of a priority. 11.35.06 # Btw, why does it stretch rockboy on purpose? 11.35.17 # because the iriver lcd is smaller than the gameboy lcd 11.35.45 # ...so why are we STRETCHING the rockboy? 11.36.25 # shrinking 11.36.27 # vertically 11.37.30 # doesn't rockboy do that now? 11.38.06 # yes 11.38.53 # -_- 11.39.04 # You confusing boy you 11.40.32 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 11.41.49 # rockboy cuts off pixels atm 11.41.56 # it doesn't scale the screen 11.42.22 # Ah 11.42.25 # I didn't notice 11.46.28 # * rasher updates hvsc 11.56.42 # night 11.57.57 # night 12.00.22 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7F3F2.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.02.08 Join ripnetUK [0] (~mirc@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 12.07.01 # eh? 12.07.05 # what do you mean scale? 12.08.36 # Yay! xsidplay finally figured out the songlength db! 12.08.47 # * rasher jumps 12.09.37 # * HCl falls asleep again 12.10.59 Part LinusN 12.18.50 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.18.51 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7F3F2.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.23.29 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@217.30.249.124) 12.24.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.27.05 Quit Heidelessen (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.35.21 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 12.44.45 Quit ripnetUK () 12.57.45 Quit rasher ("leaving") 13.03.14 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 13.07.23 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day () 13.09.18 Quit R3nTiL () 13.12.42 Quit lostlogic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.17.05 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 13.18.43 Join Patr3ck_ [0] (~patr3ck@p548CBB95.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.25.38 Quit Patr3ck (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.25.47 Quit Aison (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.43.20 Quit Bager (""In the other world, in paradise, the beauty of women surpassed even the beauty of Bulgarian women" Adaloloddin Mohammed Balh) 13.59.02 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 14.04.13 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l06m-14-214.d1.club-internet.fr) 14.07.46 Join Heidelessen [0] (~h@p548087EC.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.08.17 # hi folks! 14.08.26 # hi ho 14.14.22 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 14.15.01 Quit Bagder (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.15.01 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.15.01 Quit rasher (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.15.01 Quit einhirn (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.15.01 Quit Strath (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.15.01 Quit datazone (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.15.01 Quit edx (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.15.16 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.15.16 NJoin Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a216.wi.tds.net) 14.16.54 NJoin rasher [0] (~rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 14.18.06 NJoin Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 14.18.06 NJoin einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.18.06 NJoin datazone [0] (~datazone@cf0d1f08.gw101.dsl.airmail.net) 14.18.06 NJoin edx [0] (edx@p548792B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.19.36 Join tvelocity [0] (tony@chan530-a151.otenet.gr) 14.24.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.04.48 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 15.11.34 # hello 15.12.27 # morning 15.28.41 Join ftl-M^X^E`off [0] (tush@80.178.112.30.adsl.012.net.il) 15.28.58 # anyone here ? :) 15.29.11 # Is there a Rockbox firmware rlsed for AV400 series ? 15.29.39 # RTFT 15.29.50 # which means ? :> 15.30.41 # bobTHC ? 15.31.08 # "Read this Fucking Topic", but it's just a joke, I invite u to read the site before ask question 15.31.31 # I've read yes 15.31.40 # I've seen there is only for jukebox 15.31.45 # I thought maybe they dont publish it or smthing :/ 15.31.55 # I'm dying for a god damn other firmware the original stinks 15.34.10 # for AV400 series a linux port is on the way i thing, but it's not rockbox who developp it 15.34.27 # is it possible to load linux into AV400 ? 15.34.40 # any idea where can i find a guide about it or something? 15.34.52 # Ohhh or you mean its gonna be released soon :> 15.35.07 # AVos or something like that 15.35.47 # http://linav.free.fr/ 15.36.00 # yeah found :) tnx 15.36.53 # its for Av300 ;/ 15.43.00 # i haven't more info, sorry 15.43.13 # :< 15.43.54 # join them chan 15.44.07 # did :> 15.44.10 # on 1 answers =[ 16.24.23 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 16.24.35 Join oxygen77 [0] (~507dd03f@labb.contactor.se) 16.25.21 Quit oxygen77 (Client Quit) 16.34.17 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 16.46.16 Join Schee4 [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-9-254.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.52.36 Quit Schee (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.58.16 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.58.52 Join courtc [0] (~court@adsl-158-36-207.asm.bellsouth.net) 17.08.29 Quit tvelocity () 17.15.38 Join mecraw [0] (fwuser@69.2.235.2) 17.33.50 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 17.33.58 # hi 17.41.21 # some one get me a av400 os =[[[ 17.51.17 # lol 17.51.18 Quit DMJC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.51.32 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-171-89.tpgi.com.au) 17.52.45 Quit Patr3ck_ () 17.55.38 Quit Schee4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.02.01 Join Schee4 [0] (~SeeSchlos@ARennes-352-1-7-176.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.07.11 # *yawns* 18.19.57 Join mirak [0] (~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-8-252.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.24.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.27.06 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (~munkee@abyss2.demon.co.uk) 18.36.18 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 19.07.21 Quit bobTHC ("Smoke Weed Every Day !") 19.14.04 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.21.25 Quit Schnueff ("leaving") 20.07.50 Quit ze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.24.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.27.14 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@24-168-110-99.si.rr.com) 20.29.20 Join ze [0] (ze@adsl-69-231-248-35.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 21.55.12 # quiet day 21.56.10 # hehe 22.03.44 Quit pill (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.10.48 Join RaZorbacK [0] (~sof@garonne-1-82-66-75-34.fbx.proxad.net) 22.15.01 # Hi all,v is there someone to help me with my jukebox studio? I have flashed my box successfully, it worked during a few days and now, i've lost my voice feature, the display is scrolling very quickly from right to left... i'm kinda lost. when i try to restore my backup firmware, anything i try i have the message "not from rom"à the voice feature is very important for me, i'm visually impaired. Please, i need help! :(. 22.17.32 # I'll have to pass.. don't know anything about the archos models or voice feature.. sorry.. 22.17.46 # Let's hope some activity can wake someone up 22.18.49 # thx man, I hope so... 22.19.27 # everything is working except this damn voice and the display. 22.19.42 # Alternatively, you could try the mailing-list 22.19.47 Quit ftl-M^X^E`off (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.20.37 # OK, gonna stay tunned a bit on here time to smoke a cig and i'll try the mailing list... not money to buy another archos... :( 22.21.01 # You say the voice worked, but stopped working? 22.21.45 # yes it works for a few days, fast booting etc... really cool but it stops and i cant restore it. formating the box did not resolve the issue 22.23.17 # and now, my sighted wife can't even read on the box screen properly, the letters are moving very quickly form right to left... bizarre 22.24.29 # annoying.. there's a setting to change the scrollspeed 22.24.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.26.48 # haven't try this ... bugt when i try, it's even hard to go to the settings :( really annoying. but i don't blame anyone, i've tried the flashing procedure, and, the bizarre thing is that it works for a few days. don't know what happened 22.29.30 Join NegativeK [0] (~negk@68-190-48-83.cpe.ga.charter.com) 22.32.40 # i'm coming back in ten minutes, if someone can find a solution to my problem it will be very nice. thanks though Racher for attempting to help :) 22.33.12 # I only have an iriver, so I haven't been able to test the voice feature yet 22.38.02 Quit Liehbeth (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.43.48 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 22.44.54 # * t0mas is going to sleep 22.44.57 Quit t0mas ("good night") 22.48.18 Join pill [0] (dearth@ip-130.net-82-216-140.issy4.rev.numericable.fr) 22.48.54 Join Querty [0] (~michiel@heren.demon.nl) 23.03.53 Quit ze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.14.26 Join xen` [0] (nop@planoise-2-82-227-196-9.fbx.proxad.net) 23.19.28 Quit Bonkers ("Client exiting") 23.28.25 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.30.19 Quit Querty ("Leaving") 23.37.43 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 23.37.45 Join tvelocity [0] (tony@chan530-a125.otenet.gr) 23.50.40 Quit Bagder ("Off to search for that connect-resetting peer guy!") 23.52.46 # is the mailing list moderated? 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