--- Log for 05.04.105  Server: orwell.freenode.net  Channel: #rockbox
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00.00.17 #       <amiconn> His gfx lib will (hopefully) become obsolete in the not too far future. I intend to work on a unified gfx api and a number of optimisations. See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GraphicsAPI
00.00.37 #       <Camilo> amiconn,  any alpha blending planned?
00.00.48 #       <Bagder> amiconn: I only read through your suggestion once, but it looked rather fine at that quick glance
00.01.25 #       <amiconn> Camilo: No, since Linus wants the greyscale framebuffer in native format ;-/
00.02.01 #       <preglow> why does that mean you cant alpha blend?
00.02.10 #       <preglow> weren't you talking about using an intermediate buffer anyway?
00.02.26 #       <amiconn> Yes, for the grayscale library
00.02.39 #       <Camilo> I'm not criticising - but I read the page from the POV of a potential H3xx GUI developer and nodded at all the future colour notes
00.02.50 #       <preglow> framebuffer needs to be native, i don't think there's much to say about it
00.02.54 #       <Camilo> the only thing I thought was missing was maybe alpha blending
00.02.55 #       <preglow> we need all the iram we have
00.03.03 #       <amiconn> This currently only exists for archos, and I can only even try this if I get my iriver...
00.03.55 #       <amiconn> preglow: Imho the framebuffer doesn't need to be in iram
00.04.39 #       <amiconn> It is not in iram on archos (although it would be possible to fit it, even within the 4 K iram of the SH1)
00.05.41 #       <HCl>  >.<
00.05.42 #       <HCl> !
00.06.04 #       <preglow> well, no, but is archos ram as slow as iriver ram?
00.06.14 #       <amiconn> No it isn't
00.06.28 #       <HCl> darnit.
00.06.31 #       <HCl> my email server is down
00.06.35 #       <HCl> just when i wrote a nice email
00.06.41 #       <HCl> that i think i have completely right
00.06.46 #       <HCl> and that should solve all problems :x
00.07.12 #       <amiconn> It's just only 16 bits wide (iram is 32 bits), and the first access to a new page (it's fast page mode DRAM) needs 2 additional wait states
00.09.44 #       <amiconn> On the other side, the SH1 doesn't have any cache, so it makes sense to put time critical code into iram, for 2 reasons
00.11.36 #       <amiconn> (1) 2 instructions fit within the 32 bit bus width. This allows for clever placement of 'mov' instructions so that the instruction fetch doesn't interfere with memory access (2) Having instructions in IRAM doesn't break page mode, so this is especially useful for memory intensive code
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00.14.31 #       <HCl> oh god.
00.14.40 #       <HCl> our university computer staff is so incompetent
00.14.41 #       <HCl> x.x
00.15.09 #       <HCl> they lost our mail aliases, all email to our university is getting rejected
00.15.19 #       <HCl> on top of that, all email that you try to send from our university gets rejected too
00.15.19 #       <preglow> smooth operator
00.15.47 #       <HCl> yea, we have a partly students-partly payed-staff managed network
00.15.54 #       <HCl> obviously, the students part runs great.
00.16.01 #       <HCl> and the payed-staff always messes up
00.16.27 #       <HCl> anyways, i used our students-run emailserver, which works fine..
00.17.05 #       <preglow> haha
00.17.09 #       <preglow> i've got my own mail server
00.17.14 #       <preglow> i've got my own everything, mainly
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00.18.04 #       <HCl> *nods*
00.18.16 #       <HCl> i have a server that i can setup mail and dns on... if i wanted to.
00.18.20 #       <preglow> heh
00.18.27 #       <HCl> never really saw the need
00.18.32 #       <preglow> did it mainly for fun
00.18.35 #       <HCl> since the university emails everything to your university email
00.18.39 #       <preglow> and for hosting the domains of some friends
00.18.45 #       <HCl> and i'd have to get everything redirected for that
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00.28.52 #       <Rick> how does rockbox choose to case directory names?
00.29.18 #       <HCl> i don't think we really make a choice, we just read the joliet / msdos filename back?
00.29.33 #       <Rick> well
00.29.33 #       <preglow> holiet is a cdrom standard...
00.29.33 #       <Rick> it's odd
00.29.36 #       <preglow> joliet <a-
00.29.36 #       <HCl> sorry
00.29.37 #       <HCl> xD
00.29.38 #       <Rick> because some directories are upper case
00.29.41 #       <Rick> and some are lower case
00.29.41 #       <HCl> windows filenames
00.29.41 #       <HCl> whatever
00.29.47 #       <Rick> when they are all lower case
00.29.50 #       <Camilo> Rick are you using linux?
00.29.59 #       <Rick> Camilo: sometimes, yes
00.30.09 #       <Rick> but I am talking about from the view of rockbox display
00.30.12 #       <Camilo> when you are seeing the case inconsistencies, are you using linux?
00.30.13 #       <Rick> not a mounted drive
00.30.14 #       <amiconn> The problem here isn't rockbox, but windows
00.30.21 #       <Rick> No, it is in the rockbox display
00.30.27 #       <Rick> amiconn: ah
00.30.30 #       <Camilo> OK..
00.30.31 #       <amiconn> Yes, but the problem is windows
00.30.32 #       <Rick> how can I fix it?
00.30.45 #       <HCl> rename them in windows?
00.30.55 #       <Rick> in windows they are lowercase
00.30.58 #       <Rick> in rockbox they are uppercase
00.30.59 #       <Camilo> Rick, from linux you can mount the drive with the options shortname=win95, then rename to your heart;s content
00.31.37 #       <HCl> are they shorter than 8 chars?
00.31.55 #       <Rick> yes
00.31.58 #       <amiconn> If you enter a shortname (a name that fits in the 8.3 scheme, wihout disallowed characters) in all lowercase, Windows displays it that way, but only stores a FAT shortname, no corresponding VFAT longname
00.32.10 #       <HCl> does rockbox default to windows filenames or msdos filenames when its 8.3 ?
00.32.10 #       <Rick> ah
00.32.12 #       <amiconn> However, FAT shortnames are always uppercase
00.32.16 #       <HCl> ah.
00.32.19 #       <Rick> that makes sense
00.32.54 #       * Rick wonders if it would be easy to hack that
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00.32.57 #       <amiconn> Iirc there is a registry key to 'cure' that odd windows behaviour, but I don't remember which one
00.33.01 #       <Rick> ah
00.34.05 #       <amiconn> Found it: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article02-101
00.34.05 #       <Camilo> linux defaults to showing those 8.3 in lower case, whilst writing them on the disk in the case originally given... not useful IMHO
00.35.22 #       <Rick> don't see an option for the first one
00.35.27 #       <Rick> oh wait
00.35.28 #       <Rick> that's win98
00.35.28 #       <amiconn> Pure 8.3 filenames on FAT are always uppercase. However, there is nothing that would prevent a filesystem from adding a VFAT longname, even it isn't necessary because of the length
00.35.31 #       * Rick slaps himself
00.36.30 #       <amiconn> Rick: The problem exists with all 32 bit Windows versions
00.36.38 #       <Rick> ah
00.36.48 #       <Rick> well
00.36.50 #       <Rick> thanks for the tip
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00.44.24 #       <HCl> sometimes i feel stupidity should be illegal :/
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00.55.34 #       <preglow> i feel it should be fatal
00.55.56 #       <preglow> at least punishable
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01.04.00 #       <MoosCamaro> good night
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05.57.09 #       <Kio|Jestcomeback> hi all
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08.04.50 #       <LinusN> hi amiconn 
08.04.58 #       <LinusN> nice work on the trigger cleanup
08.05.00 #       <amiconn> Good morning :)
08.06.35 #       <amiconn> Hmm, would be better if at least some test compilations are done prior to commit :-/
08.07.00 #       <amiconn> Trigger is not yet tested on Ondio FM, but I hope it works
08.07.08 #       <LinusN> hehe, i did compile the ondio, but i accidentally configured for the sp
08.07.57 #       <amiconn> The SP binary got >2.5 KB larger without my cleanup
08.08.20 #       <LinusN> was that a problem?
08.08.35 #       <amiconn> It's a waste...
08.08.39 #       <LinusN> of course
08.09.10 #       <LinusN> i see it like this: the code would never have been cleaned up if i didn't commit it
08.09.34 #       <amiconn> After cleanup, about 500 bytes are left, coming from the additional strings, and one additional peakmeter function unrelated to the trigger
08.09.45 #       <LinusN> i simply had no time to fix all platforms, and philipp wasn't going to do it either
08.09.48 #       <t0mas|zzz> morning
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08.09.58 #       <amiconn> The player binary increased ~300 bytes
08.10.14 #       <amiconn> (due to the strings)
08.10.17 #       <LinusN> t0mas: morning
08.10.46 #       <LinusN> non-platform related strings is becoming a problem
08.11.02 #       <amiconn> I hope the C99 syntax I used for const'ing is okay
08.11.09 #       <LinusN> looks ok
08.11.14 #       <amiconn> (designated initializers)
08.11.20 #       <LinusN> cool feature
08.11.27 #       <amiconn> yup
08.13.09 #       <amiconn> Btw, I like the trigger option menu presentation...
08.13.39 #       <amiconn> Perhaps this layout (improved a little bit further) should become the standard option menu in rockbox...
08.16.12 #       <LinusN> we have discussed various ways of doing that
08.16.47 #       <LinusN> the problem is always the width
08.17.58 #       <LinusN> with different fonts and languages
08.19.36 #       <Rick> trigger?
08.20.17 #       <LinusN> level triggered recording
08.20.44 #       <amiconn> LinusN: I know about the problems, but imho this is solvable if partial scrolling lines get implemented
08.20.46 #       <t0mas> oh LinusN.. I have a little bug in the bootloader...
08.21.02 #       <LinusN> t0mas: only one?
08.21.09 #       <t0mas> don't know ;)
08.21.22 #       <t0mas> when hold is on.... and you press the play button shortly... it will just boot
08.21.33 #       <LinusN> yes, that's a known bug
08.21.52 #       <t0mas> ok
08.22.00 #       <LinusN> thanks for reporting anyway
08.22.03 #       <Rick> hehe
08.22.14 #       <t0mas> I'll instruct my pocket to keep the button pressed for some time ;)
08.22.25 #       <LinusN> t0mas: do that :-)
08.22.41 #       <Rick> on which unit?
08.22.47 #       <t0mas> H120
08.22.47 #       <LinusN> archos recorders
08.22.59 #       <LinusN> (if you mean trigger)
08.23.06 #       * Rick can't see the h120's play button getting clicked on like that easily
08.23.48 #       <t0mas> nope... that's why I noticed now.. and not a few weeks ago
08.23.59 #       <Rick> ah
08.24.00 #       <Rick> hehe
08.24.12 #       <Rick> i'm sure it's improbable of that happening with the case on too
08.24.34 #       <t0mas> yeah, I still want an iSkin...
08.24.43 #       <Rick> hrm
08.24.44 #       * Rick thinks
08.25.00 #       <Rick> does rockbox react to the remote buttons already?
08.25.09 #       <t0mas> only the ON button...
08.25.13 #       <Rick> darn
08.25.15 #       <t0mas> to start original firmware
08.25.28 #       <amiconn> LinusN: My additional ideas for the menu presentation are (1) Put a little space between item name and value (2) Have the value right aligned as in the trigger option menu, but limit the width it can take to max. 1/3 the screen width (3) use mattzz's checkbox widget for binary options
08.25.29 #       <t0mas> (but you have to press it for a little time... not just hit it)
08.25.30 #       <Rick> that means I have to pull out the h120 when I accidentally start rockbox
08.25.35 #       <Rick> yeah I know t0mas
08.25.52 #       <amiconn> The item name part should scroll if it does not fit completely
08.26.10 #       <LinusN> amiconn: basically my idea too :-)
08.26.14 #       <amiconn> (only if you are at that line, as with the current menus)
08.28.08 #       <amiconn> Of course, the menu handling needs to stay as-is on the player. Too little room for item name & value on the same line :(
08.28.21 #       <LinusN> yeah
08.30.29 #       <Rick> what is 'I2C' / 'I2S'?
08.31.29 #       <LinusN> I2C is a serial comm protocol, used to talk to various chips
08.31.32 #       <Rick> ah
08.31.43 #       <LinusN> I2S is a serial protocol for audio
08.32.57 #       * t0mas luistert naar: Track 35  (1:08)
08.33.00 #       <t0mas> oh lol
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08.43.30 #       <t0mas> bye
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09.11.45 #       <bobTHC> hi all!
09.11.56 #       <LinusN> hola
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09.36.31 #       <LinusN> hi kurzhaarrocker 
09.36.44 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Thank you for including my patch and sorry for the hubub it caused
09.37.09 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I read something about standard menu stuff that I didn't use.
09.37.14 #       <LinusN> i have homework for you
09.37.30 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Which?
09.37.36 #       <LinusN> 1) make it work better in the sim
09.37.44 #       <LinusN> 2) update the wiki
09.38.27 #       <kurzhaarrocker> especially the latter will be important for  users :)
09.38.52 #       <LinusN> oh yes
09.39.18 #       <kurzhaarrocker> But give me a week. Currently I'm very busy at work. 
09.39.46 #       <LinusN> you have one week, then we start threatening you :-)
09.40.11 #       * kurzhaarrocker shivers
09.41.56 #       * kurzhaarrocker noticed that he should learn how const works and how to utilize its advantages.
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09.48.18 #       <LinusN> Rick: you come and you go...
09.49.08 #       <LinusN> verizon seems to be a reliable isp :-)
09.50.20 #       <Bagder> haha
09.50.35 #       <LinusN> not to mention free of spam! :-) :-)
09.51.05 #       <Bagder> I wish I could use them ;-)
09.51.30 #       <LinusN> i wish i didn't live in europe, where most spam comes from ;-)
10.00.33 #       <Lynx_> LinusN: from the CVS activity it looks like you are on holidays :)
10.00.56 #       <LinusN> :-)
10.00.59 #       <kurzhaarrocker> Nah, when LinusN is on holidays he writes spam :)
10.02.39 #       <Lynx_> "Increase the capabilities of you firmware, no prescription required?
10.02.43 #       <Lynx_> "
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10.03.02 #       <Lynx_> s/you/your/
10.05.11 #       <LinusN> R0.c.k!B.0_x
10.07.20 #       <Lynx_> hehe
10.08.33 #       <Lynx_> Bagder: got you FP2001 yet?
10.08.41 #       <Bagder> no :-(
10.08.58 #       <Lynx_> how long have you been waiting now?
10.09.24 #       <Bagder> a week
10.09.53 #       <bobTHC> Enl4rge y0ur Jukebox, choose the best drug on the n3t ! R0.c.k!B.0_x
10.10.03 #       <bobTHC> lol
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10.18.24 #       <amiconn> hi kurzhaarrocker (the Ondio breaker ;-) )
10.18.36 #       * kurzhaarrocker hides from amiconn
10.18.59 #       <kurzhaarrocker> It's good to have code poliece :)
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13.12.40 #       <kurzhaarrocker> I updated the TriggerManual in wiki. Homework No 2 done.
13.13.34 #       <LinusN> wonderful
13.14.12 #       <LinusN> i must say that the graphics look very weird
13.14.21 #       <LinusN> ah, sorry
13.14.27 #       <LinusN> had to reload
13.14.38 #       <kurzhaarrocker> :) I experienced that too
13.15.39 #       <kurzhaarrocker> lunch
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13.54.36 #       * t0mas is back
13.54.58 #       <t0mas> long half day... stupid computers
13.55.35 #       <bobTHC> computer are not stupid ;)
13.55.54 #       <t0mas> ok... stupid customers
13.55.59 #       <bobTHC> :)
13.57.57 #       <bobTHC> or stupid engineer ;)
13.58.09 #       * t0mas didn't build it...
13.58.28 #       <t0mas> I'm just a simple sysadmin... half time... still going to school the other day's
13.58.41 #       <preglow> stupidity in coders...
13.58.58 #       <preglow> that's my favourite
13.59.28 #       <bobTHC> :)
13.59.44 #       <preglow> especially because i'm so often guilty of it myself
13.59.55 #       <preglow> last stupidity was commited ten minutes ago
14.00.15 #       * LinusN feels guilty
14.00.21 #       <bobTHC> :))))
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14.52.34 #       <bobTHC> any taker dor gmail invite ?????
14.52.46 #       <bobTHC> s/dor/for
14.54.40 #       <preglow> i've got about 50 left, if you want, say, twenty of them
14.55.22 #       <Bagder> :-)
14.55.34 #       <LinusN> what's the deal with all those gmail invites?
14.55.57 #       <preglow> i have no idea
14.56.00 #       <preglow> i just have fifty
14.56.02 #       <Bagder> LinusN: you can't get an account normally, you can just get it by invitation
14.56.02 #       <preglow> no, i have a hundrer
14.56.05 #       <preglow> hundred, haha
14.57.50 #       <LinusN> and why would i want a gmail account?
14.58.04 #       <Bagder> LinusN: to store 2GB of spam! ;-)
14.58.15 #       <LinusN> wonderful!
14.58.15 #       <bobTHC> 2gig , searchable, pop and smtp, ....
14.58.30 #       <LinusN> wna the catch is...?
14.58.38 #       <LinusN> s/wna/and/
14.58.50 #       <Bagder> ads
14.58.57 #       <Bagder> I guess
14.58.59 #       <LinusN> in the emails?
14.59.06 #       <preglow> nah, google ads on the page
14.59.12 #       <bobTHC> not exacly like google
14.59.13 #       <preglow> dont think there is any in the mail
14.59.19 #       <bobTHC> at ure right
14.59.26 #       <LinusN> i would use smtp
14.59.29 #       <bobTHC> yes
14.59.31 #       <preglow> there is a smtp server
14.59.34 #       <preglow> and pop support
14.59.52 #       <bobTHC> u can use it as a Web HD too
14.59.53 #       <LinusN> and what's in it for google in that case?
15.00.01 #       <preglow> i have no idea
15.00.06 #       <preglow> i don't use it
15.00.10 #       <LinusN> free smtp with no injected ads
15.00.14 #       <bobTHC> yes
15.00.19 #       <LinusN> i don't get it
15.00.25 #       <bobTHC> :)
15.00.26 #       <LinusN> too good to be true
15.00.33 #       <preglow> they're philantropists :P
15.00.49 #       <Bagder> I guess they expect enough number of people to use the webmail
15.02.11 #       <preglow> i might have to use it when i have to take my box down when i move
15.02.42 #       <preglow> unless i get some mad fool to take over my mail server settings
15.03.32 #       <preglow> settings/setup
15.04.53 #       <bobTHC> using the gmail account as linux webstorage is a good thing... : http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html
15.05.22 #       <preglow> too bad google is bound to break it sooner or later
15.05.34 #       <preglow> they've explicitely stated they don't want that
15.08.35 #       <bobTHC> it's idiot, i like use unix command to manage webdrive
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15.11.04 #       <bobTHC> lol
15.14.13 #       <bobTHC> hard to cameback to low BW for sure... it's like using a moped after have use a yam R1
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15.49.04 #       <Tang> Hi :)
15.49.31 #       <Tang> anyone?
15.49.42 #       <Bagder> hi
15.49.46 #       <bobTHC> hi
15.50.13 #       <Tang> lo Badger
15.50.31 #       <Tang> Can i ask if the latest audio progress are nly Archos related?
15.51.12 #       <Tang> (i think yes but not sure)
15.51.15 #       <Bagder> it isn't
15.52.25 #       <Tang> Ah okay
15.52.29 #       <Tang> what i thought
15.52.31 #       <Tang> thanks
15.52.33 #       <Tang> :)
15.53.09 #       <Tang> (maybe i wasn't clear: i meant: "yes it's only related to Archos" ;)
15.58.40 #       <preglow> the whole reason the code is changed is so it makes sense on other platforms than archos
15.59.10 #       <preglow> archos can only do mpeg
16.01.46 #       <Tang> Hum so it's nonArchos related
16.01.54 #       <Tang> but it's not a concrete progress
16.01.58 #       <Tang> if i understand well
16.02.00 #       <Tang> :)
16.02.10 #       <Tang> No matter
16.02.18 #       <Tang> i'm very pateint
16.02.21 #       <Tang> :)
16.03.27 #       <Bagder> it is progress indeed
16.03.44 #       <Bagder> how can progress not be "concrete" ?
16.04.06 #       <preglow> like in instant visible changes for the user, i guess
16.04.30 #       <Tang> Hum
16.04.47 #       <Tang> i didn't explained well myself
16.04.55 #       <Tang> i mean not "substantial progress"
16.04.56 #       <Tang> ?
16.05.06 #       <Tang> So no need to relay on some boards
16.05.07 #       <Tang> :)
16.05.09 #       <Tang> :)
16.05.17 #       <Tang> Is it true then?
16.08.45 #       <preglow> no need to relay anything
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16.19.34 #       <Tang> (oki that's what i decided finally from a MP with Bob, anyway i'll relay the info if "my people" seems to turn impatient
16.19.42 #       <Tang> so they won't annoy you :)
16.19.44 #       <Tang> ;)
16.19.48 #       <Tang> Best regards
16.19.50 #       <Tang> Tanguy
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16.48.50 #       <t0mas> [15:05:53] <preglow> unless i get some mad fool to take over my mail server settings
16.48.56 #       <t0mas> Mad fool reporting :)
16.49.04 #       <t0mas> I'm doing backup MX for some domains...
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16.55.00 #       <t0mas> lol
16.55.32 #       <t0mas> I was just reading about libcurl... and read "Daniel Stenberg" and I was thinking like... "where did I read that name before?"
16.56.01 #       <Bagder> :-)
16.57.14 #       <preglow> haha
16.57.20 #       <t0mas> tnx for writing that Bagder :)
16.57.25 #       <preglow> i think i've got a mad fool for a friend anyway, so i'll be alright
16.57.26 #       * Bagder bows
16.57.27 #       <t0mas> makes logging on to msn a lot easyer
16.57.39 #       <Lynx_> Bagder: you're into hairdressing also? ;)
16.57.50 #       <t0mas> preglow: just email me if you need it :)
16.57.56 #       <preglow> t0mas: great
16.58.00 #       <t0mas> tomas@salfischberger.nl / tomas@shcomputers.nl
16.58.01 #       <Bagder> nah, curling is a sport
16.58.06 #       <preglow> i love curling
16.58.06 #       <Bagder> ;-)
16.58.14 #       <t0mas> oh LOL
16.58.17 #       <t0mas> HCl? 
16.58.22 #       <t0mas> check planet news :)
16.58.39 #       <t0mas> A man jumped off the public tribune... into the dutch gouvernment chamber
16.58.54 #       <t0mas> a securitygard jumped after him
16.59.08 #       <t0mas> they both  broke their legs... and the man was arrested
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17.21.49 #       <DMJC> ok, any news?
17.21.57 #       <DMJC> I'm in console only mode on a friend's box
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18.01.19 #       <bytemission> anybody got some news on the blown caps?
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20.36.01 #       <rasher> Done.. if "Udløser" is an acceptable translation of "Trigger"
20.36.28 #       <Bagder> ah, that one
20.38.44 #       <rasher> I should do a lower-case-nazi attack on dansk.lang at some point
20.38.56 #       <rasher> problem is I don't notice half of the problems
20.39.07 #       <rasher> since I see about 5% of the strings on the iriver :-\
20.39.13 #       <Bagder> hehe
20.39.50 #       <rasher> and it's sortof hard to figure out if a string is going to be used on its own, or concatenated with something else
20.39.55 #       <rasher> oh well
20.40.27 #       <rasher> do I submit this to the tracker, or will you commit it?
20.40.54 #       <Bagder> beam it to be and I'll commit
20.40.57 #       <Bagder> to me
20.41.20 #       <rasher> http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/dansk.lang.new
20.41.31 #       <Bagder> ok, its the full replacement?
20.41.39 #       <rasher> yeah, is a patch better?
20.41.47 #       <Bagder> no, this'll do fine
20.42.00 #       <rasher> excellent
20.42.29 #       <Bagder> done
20.42.50 #       <rasher> Groovy
20.43.19 #       <rasher> U apps/lang/dansk.lang
20.43.22 #       <rasher> hurray!
20.43.27 #       <Bagder> :-)
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21.23.03 #       <Eodun> hi everyone
21.23.08 #       <Bagder> hi
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21.24.00 #       <Eodun> Where I can find the number of the last espanol.lang version? I need to upload 2 voices and want to do everything correctly
21.24.45 #       <Bagder> you can find that in cvs, either using a cvs client or check the cvs web interface
21.25.06 #       <Eodun> ok, gonna update voices now
21.25.30 #       <Bagder> nice
21.25.49 #       <Bagder> got any feedback from spanish users?
21.26.05 #       <Eodun> oh, one thing: I have french, german and italian voices, so i could buid them, but dunno how to correct pronunciation...
21.26.31 #       <Bagder> me neither ;)
21.26.53 #       <Eodun> just one thing: the lastest espanol.lang says folder instead of  "directorio" or "carpeta"
21.26.59 #       <Eodun> but minor problem really
21.27.52 #       <Bagder> hablo solo un pocito :-)
21.28.06 #       <Eodun> I've been thinking about the line in in my player...
21.28.25 #       <Eodun> nice... just that it's "poquito" :)
21.28.33 #       <Bagder> oh well ;-)
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21.31.40 #       <eodun2> sry got disconnected
21.31.47 #       <eodun2> could be possible to write a plugin or menu so you could record from the line in?
21.32.51 #       <Bagder> not on the player model, no
21.33.21 #       <rasher> o.O what's a line-in for if you can't record?
21.33.31 #       <Bagder> good question
21.33.36 #       <Bagder> sing-along? ;-)
21.33.45 #       <eodun2> you can use it like an amplifier
21.33.45 #       <rasher> What the...?!
21.34.17 #       <eodun2> connect to line-in and from headphone jack
21.34.35 #       <eodun2> -bum- a little amplifier
21.34.40 #       <eodun2> funny
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21.35.49 #       <rasher> Wait.. the player has a line-in but no ability to record? Who thought of that... and WHY?!
21.36.05 #       <rasher> or am I misreading something here
21.36.10 #       <Bagder> hey, remember that they are french ;-)
21.36.25 #       <rasher> Those nutty French.
21.36.41 #       <eodun2> lol
21.36.56 #       <eodun2> but the signal has to go through some circuit
21.36.57 #       <rasher> That really has got to be one of the most bizarre hardware design choices I've heard of
21.37.23 #       <Bagder> eodun2: yes, but its not possible for the cpu to intercept
21.38.02 #       <rasher> I refuse to accept this.. some engineer must have thought SOMETHING when he decided that.. I need to know what, or I won't be able to sleep tonight :-\
21.38.51 #       <eodun2> they could think about a use for it, but when got to design the software simply left it as is.
21.41.16 #       <eodun2> well, uploading voices
21.41.19 #       <eodun2> see ya
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21.51.29 #       <rasher> It's kind of sad that I only use 2kb/s on average of my internet connection
21.51.43 #       <rasher> and a little more upstream
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22.43.54 #       <pike> hi dudes and dudettes
22.44.18 #       <pike> I stumbled upon this: http://forum.iriver.se/ rofl, probably not new is it ?
22.44.35 #       <t0mas> hacked? :)
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