--- Log for 07.04.105 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 8 hours ago 00.03.28 Quit _Lucretia_ ("Leaving") 00.17.04 # * preglow goes mad 00.17.31 # libmad? 00.17.34 # :-P 00.18.05 # haha, i'm too tired to see the pun 00.20.14 # :p 00.23.24 # LinusN? 00.23.33 # have you setup the cvs email thing for rockbox? 00.23.58 # t0mas: its mostly me and zagor 00.24.03 # ok 00.24.16 # can you give me the line you use in loginfo? 00.24.46 # ^firmware /usr/bin/syncmail -C4 -u -S "$USER: " %1{sVv} rockbox-cvs@cool.haxx.se 00.24.58 # tnx 00.25.01 # this is using Debian's syncmail 00.25.09 # yeah, I have debian 00.25.14 # so I'll install syncmail :) 00.25.28 # ok, because the options differed slightly from the previous syncmail we used 00.25.52 # ok 00.32.10 # time to go to sleep 00.32.20 # gnight 00.32.28 # ah... good idea :) 00.32.29 # night 00.32.35 # cu tomorrow 00.32.38 # * t0mas is going to bed too 00.32.39 # it'll attend to itself soon in my case 00.32.42 # c ya :) 00.32.51 Quit t0mas ("bye") 00.33.26 Part LinusN 00.40.54 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a194.wi.tds.net) 00.51.32 # bye 00.51.38 Join Bippy [0] (~d92a434b@labb.contactor.se) 00.51.43 Part MoosCamaro 00.57.28 Quit preglow ("it's tingling") 00.59.28 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.01.42 Quit Bippy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.02.12 Quit DangerousDan ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.12.37 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 01.28.46 Join asdsd [0] (asdsd@h-67-100-34-169.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 01.31.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.33.03 Quit Camilo (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.35.18 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 01.43.41 Join IRCMonkey [0] (~chatzilla@67.71.173.12) 01.44.19 Quit IRCMonkey (Client Quit) 01.49.45 Join jbw_ [0] (~jbw@67.71.173.12) 01.56.33 Quit jbw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 02.07.43 Join asdsd_ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-29-150.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 02.25.45 Quit asdsd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.27.36 Quit Aison (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.44.12 # its too quiet! 02.44.21 # * HCl sues everyone here for not talking enough :x 02.57.24 # oh noes. 02.57.28 # :P 02.57.30 # :p 02.57.31 # yay 02.57.37 # i think we can go for a settlement 02.57.41 # now that there are people talking 02.57.42 # :P 02.58.16 # ;) 02.58.23 # sup? 02.58.37 # not much 02.58.56 # I find myself spending 50% of my time beeing bored 02.58.58 # not good. 02.59.01 # so. 02.59.06 # time to buy some new hardware 02.59.15 # I'm thinking of buying a force feedback wheel 02.59.28 # ohh. 02.59.29 # i have that. 02.59.33 # unfortunately 02.59.34 # you do? 02.59.37 # heh 02.59.38 # my geforce 4 ti4200 02.59.39 # not good? 02.59.41 # malfunctions so much 02.59.42 # oh 02.59.42 # ;) 02.59.43 # ah 02.59.44 DBUG Enqueued KICK thegeek 02.59.44 # hehe 02.59.45 # that i don't get to use it x.x; 02.59.46 # I'm too fast 02.59.48 # mhm 02.59.50 # that sucks 02.59.51 # i really need to trade it for something similar 02.59.52 # its like 02.59.54 # what wheel is it? 02.59.56 # that particular geforce 03.00.01 # with my particular motherboard 03.00.05 # thats just "omg no! 03.00.07 # ;) 03.00.29 # and they refuse to work together. 03.00.37 # it just reboots if i try to run it in agp mode 03.00.40 # I had a 4200, until it b0rked, and I got a new crappy fx5700 for free 03.00.42 # and geforce in pci mode is far from fast. 03.00.47 # lucky. 03.00.47 # ;) 03.00.50 # i need to buy a new one 03.00.52 # well 03.00.56 # or really, trade mine for someone's 03.00.56 # fx5700 is not faster 03.01.01 # actually a tiny bit slower 03.01.03 # ;) 03.01.07 # I was like YAY 03.01.08 # when I got it 03.01.10 # but then.. 03.01.12 # bah 03.01.47 # but hey 03.01.49 # :3 03.01.50 # well 03.01.51 # i bought mine 03.01.52 # what wheel do have? 03.01.54 # and is it any good 03.02.00 # with the idea that i could like 03.02.00 # mod it into a quatrttro 03.02.02 # quattro 03.02.06 # hehe 03.02.09 # i have... um. 03.02.12 # logitech..... 03.02.13 # something. 03.02.22 # hehe 03.02.24 # oh well 03.02.28 # momo or something 03.02.30 # logitech momo 03.02.31 # ah 03.02.31 # and yes 03.02.33 # its quite good 03.02.36 # yeah 03.02.37 # its just mostly the games 03.02.40 # that don't support it. 03.02.45 # they dont? 03.02.45 # wtf? 03.02.55 # only since need for speed underground they actually got *good* force feed back 03.02.56 # the momo? 03.03.00 # anything lower and its just rumble 03.03.01 # yeah 03.03.01 # well 03.03.10 # I'm buying it to play simulators 03.03.11 # like 03.03.17 # www.racer.nl 03.03.19 # and 03.03.31 # live for speed 03.03.36 # it's kinda nice 03.03.39 # aha o.o 03.03.40 # well. 03.03.43 # because it's really realistic 03.03.49 # the problem with gaming steering wheels 03.03.53 # is that they're smaller (obviously) 03.04.04 # and you can't turn them multiple times like a real car steering wheel 03.04.22 # its just all the way counterclockwise and clockwise 03.04.27 # without multiple turning of the wheel 03.04.35 # so i don't know how much realism you'd have left 03.05.26 # ywell 03.05.34 # the logitech force feedback pro 03.05.35 # or something 03.05.41 # has like 900 degress rotation 03.05.45 # *degrees 03.05.54 # nice 03.06.01 # yea 03.06.03 # but it's expensive 03.06.04 # ;) 03.06.07 # i must say that so far i've pretty much been really satisfied 03.06.12 # with almost any logitech product i've bought 03.06.18 # I can't decide if I want to spend 1100 nok on just a wheel 03.06.21 # yea 03.06.22 # same here 03.06.27 # logitech is good 03.16.35 # nok? 03.18.20 # norske kroner 03.18.22 # ;) 03.18.29 # how much is that in euro.. 03.18.33 # norwegian unit of money 03.18.34 # hmm 03.18.39 # divide by 8 03.18.41 # roughly 03.18.42 # mm, maybe i can find out 03.18.56 # 134 03.19.04 # mhm 03.19.04 # sounds like a good price to me o.o 03.19.08 # i bought mine for 118 or so 03.19.11 # mhm 03.19.25 # but they have this ferrari enzo wheel for 1/2 the price 03.19.27 # it is not as good 03.19.31 # and not as sturdy 03.19.31 # but.. 03.19.36 # 1/2 the price;) 03.19.57 # cheapass :P 03.20.01 # you like 03.20.05 # hehehe 03.20.07 # can better buy something high quality 03.20.09 # and have it last 03.20.12 # than buy something crappy 03.20.15 # and have it break quickly 03.20.20 # yeah 03.20.27 # that's exactly what I'm thinking too 03.20.30 # so 03.20.31 # argh 03.20.35 # the expensive one it is 03.20.36 # ;) 03.25.59 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 03.25.59 # * HCl ponders sueing a coffee company for making chocolate milk packets he can't open >.> 03.26.08 # * HCl goes to get scissors 03.27.24 # use your teeth man! 03.27.56 Part amiconn 03.28.55 # yea 03.28.57 # but thats like 03.29.03 # chocolate powder everywhere 03.29.04 # if i try that 03.29.05 # >.> 03.31.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.43.32 Join z35 [0] (~demiurge@adsl-1-7-112.dab.bellsouth.net) 03.47.13 Part z35 ("Leaving") 03.56.11 # * HCl yawns and finally goes to sleep 04.05.11 Part Paleo ("Leaving") 04.06.08 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.08.44 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 04.08.51 Quit QT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.52.08 Quit edx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.31.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.46.12 Quit asdsd_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 06.14.43 Quit jakepdev (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.32.12 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB353.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.33.41 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 06.57.17 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 07.01.28 Quit XShocK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.24.44 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.31.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.39.27 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 08.18.09 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.20.49 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-86.VIC.netspace.net.au) 08.32.09 Quit ashridah ("gone") 08.42.00 Quit olivierd ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.2/20050317]") 08.54.35 # LinusN: here? 08.54.50 # yup 08.54.59 # seen the broken h320 offer in the forum? 08.55.05 # already mailed him 08.55.11 # goodie 08.55.36 # i was thinking about the sleep time 08.55.39 # timer 08.55.59 # i haven't used it, have you? 08.56.07 # nope 08.56.09 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.56.20 # i'd like an on+play menu in the wps 08.56.35 # I just play my huge playlist shuffled, that's about all I do with my archos ;-) 08.56.53 # me too 08.57.01 # i want to move the sleep timer logic from powermgmt to wps 08.57.11 # or at least apps/ 08.58.26 # yes 08.58.40 # this may be a good use for a "send me this event after x ticks" kernel feature 08.59.42 # sounds like a good idea 09.00.00 # but if we restrict the sleep timer function to the wps, we could get away with a simple TIME_AFTER() 09.02.34 # the kernel timer event feature would probably need to be able to retrigger, i.e update the timeout 09.03.29 # might be a little tricky 09.03.33 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 09.04.50 # and i don't feel like inventing a complicated timer event system if it isn't really needed 09.05.09 # nah, let's try to avoid that 09.05.37 # but it might be unintuitive that the sleep timer only works if the wps is shown 09.05.45 # hehe, true 09.05.57 # (like the resume info works today...) 09.06.05 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-39.VIC.netspace.net.au) 09.06.52 # i could add another tick task, just like i did for the car adapter mode 09.09.49 # that is probably less expensive than a kernel tick task that compares ticks and sends events 09.31.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.44.47 Quit hibou ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.58.33 Quit bobdbob ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 10.00.15 Join bobdbob [0] (~bobdbob@ics151-142.icsincorporated.com) 10.20.31 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECF906.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.41.35 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 10.41.39 Quit Naked (Client Quit) 10.46.59 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 10.52.25 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 10.52.34 Quit Naked (Client Quit) 10.53.07 # cowon iaudio M3 and M5 use a coldfire 5249 :-) 10.53.55 # woo 10.54.07 Join Naked [0] (naked@naked.iki.fi) 10.55.39 # looks like a neat player 10.55.43 # is the iaudio m3/m5 popular? 10.56.19 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@naked.iki.fi) 10.56.32 # and there's no LCD on the player, only on the remote 10.56.44 # not the m5 10.56.51 # ah 10.57.17 # http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=89269 10.57.21 # m5? 10.57.24 # http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/ 10.57.29 # there's no M5 listed 10.58.40 # LinusN: yeah, and the player already supports FLAC 10.59.59 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l06v-6-79.d1.club-internet.fr) 11.00.18 # hi all 11.06.34 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (DJ_Dooms_D@dialup-83.79.221.203.acc15-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 11.08.50 # wonderful! the clearcase server is down AGAIN! 11.09.10 # really great product... 11.09.14 # hehe 11.09.25 # uh, lunch-race! 11.10.05 # run, run! 11.18.16 Join hbacke [0] (~c08a74be@labb.contactor.se) 11.18.26 # hbacke: long time no see 11.19.08 # Hi, Real Life you know, but i read the irc logs 11.19.34 # got an iriver yet? :-) 11.20.25 # Not yet, I'll probaly wait for the 3xx port 11.21.31 # But I've got code for two new context in onplay (WPS and DB_TREE), intrested? 11.22.09 # yup 11.24.08 Quit hbacke ("CGI:IRC") 11.25.41 Join hbacke [0] (~c08a74be@labb.contactor.se) 11.27.01 # LinusN: The only major changes are Hijacking the on play combo in wps and moving som playlist and bookmark entries from the manin menu to onplay 11.27.17 # perfect 11.29.17 # LinusN: Do you want the patch, or shall i commit, either way I you'll have to wait until tomorrow evening :-/ 11.29.29 # i'd like to see the patch 11.30.29 # OK, I'll send it as soon as get to my home computer. 11.30.33 # lunch time 11.31.20 Quit hbacke ("CGI:IRC") 11.32.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.39.13 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@217.30.249.161) 12.09.16 Join kramerica [0] (~lkd@hsdbsk142-165-191-185.sasknet.sk.ca) 12.10.54 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 12.11.11 Quit R3nTiL () 12.18.35 # are there any nice ways of accessing structs from pure asm code? hard coding relative addresses does not count :> 12.27.26 Quit kramerica () 12.38.22 # lol 12.38.25 # why doesn't it? 12.41.27 # compilers might suddenly change alignment 12.41.39 # huh? 12.41.56 # if you use a relative address, it shouldn't matter? 12.42.03 # alignment of the members 12.42.11 # ah. 12.42.15 # i don't think you can. 12.42.26 # it's not very probably, but does happen 12.42.28 # compiler generated code to access structs are simply relative addresses 12.44.01 # yes, but the compiler has knowledge of the exact alignment used 12.44.04 # assemblers do not 12.44.11 # i knoow 12.44.16 # but i don't think i've got a choice 12.44.39 # you could write a c function that puts struct members into other variables. 12.45.24 # i'd rather just hard code it :P 12.45.25 # but now: food 12.45.42 # yea 12.56.20 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-157-72-191.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) 12.58.55 Join Ago_ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 13.04.52 Quit edx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.32.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.40.24 # So, how goes the PCM playback? Any advances? 13.41.15 # i'm slowly working towards mp3 playback 13.43.19 # lots of work "paving the way" in the code though 13.43.24 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB353.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.44.53 # * LinusN gets a cup of coffee 13.45.16 # LinusN: no unnecessary breaks now ;) 13.48.26 # oh, sorry, won't happen again, promise... 13.49.31 # hehe, and i don't even own and iriver 13.50.30 # go buy one 13.50.32 # now 13.53.24 # :) 13.56.26 # wohoo, my dell tft just arrived. no more money for an iriver now ;) 13.57.22 # 13:23 <@Evo--> maar zo'n ding heeft veel minder onderhoud 13.57.28 # oops 13.57.30 # mispaste 13.57.41 # * HCl slaps putty 13.57.44 # it shouldn't paste on click 13.59.29 # you can change it to middle button 14.00.22 Join ghode|afk [0] (dude@m14-mp1.cvx2-c.bre.dial.ntli.net) 14.00.26 # why are you IRCing through putty? 14.00.42 # hi, woujld it be possible for someone to compile a version of rockbox with the iriverfy plugin included? 14.01.07 # Lynx_: because its handiest? 14.01.23 # screen + multiple irssis 14.01.33 # i can attach from anywhere, as long as i have internet 14.01.50 # HCl: hmm, need to look up what exacly irssi is 14.01.57 Quit webmind (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.02.02 # yeah, i used to do thqat a lot 14.02.05 # irc client. 14.02.08 # Lynx_: console-based irc client 14.02.22 # i used to run an irc client on my gateway and ssh to it and retreive it using screen 14.02.23 # or maybe someone could commit it to cvs? :p 14.02.31 # less annoying than logging in/out 14.02.48 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@neptunus.contactor.se) 14.04.04 # hmm, i could use remote desktop, but that's a little much for irc ;) 14.04.24 # considering i have to tunnel it through ssh anyway ;) 14.06.57 # yeah, it usually involves having a unixalike around. 14.07.14 # these days i just run X11 on my gateway 14.11.20 # do playlists have to be in a certain directory for the iriver firmware to play them? 14.15.19 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 14.15.40 # no, don't think so 14.15.45 # no 14.15.46 # yes 14.15.55 # ./playlists right? 14.15.57 # woo, battery info! 14.16.16 # as far as i know it just scans the disk for .m3u 14.16.23 # okey 14.16.51 # I think I remember seeing the playlist dir, but maybe they changed that at some point? 14.17.43 # the iriverify plugin is now added to cvs 14.17.44 Join webmind [0] (~webmind@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 14.18.08 # * rasher promptly updates the wiki 14.18.13 # * HCl checksout 14.18.40 # Go team! 14.19.10 # someone want to optimize dct32? :V 14.19.20 # Hrm, I should start building the tag-db 14.20.02 Quit B4gder ("ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031007]") 14.21.26 Join Patr3ck_ [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECEA5D.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.24.55 Quit Patr3ck (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.25.02 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@dhcp87.contactor.se) 14.27.41 # Heh, again inaccurate keynames (Play > Select).. this time in RoLo 14.29.37 # saw that yesterday... :-) 14.32.02 # The tag db is great! Shame it's such a bother switching to and from it on iRiver 14.35.05 # i never did see a good reason to use it 14.35.34 # Well my directory structure isn't as good 14.36.08 # or rather, it's fine (for me), just doesn't give easy access to a single artist 14.36.11 Quit ghode|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.36.11 # mine is impeccable :P 14.38.42 # Battery Level Inaccurate .. that's not right 14.38.48 # (wiki) 14.38.55 # How about "Basic"? 14.39.07 # shoot 14.39.10 # Judging by the commit message 14.39.16 # and prepare for a new storm on misticriver ;-) 14.39.28 # rasher: is it just displaying the output from the ADC? 14.39.34 # wouldn't 'overly accurate' be closer? :) 14.39.35 # Yeah, they seem to think that every progress means "nearly done!" 14.41.47 # ashridah: not sure exactly what it's doing.. LinusN? 14.41.54 # B4gder: ups delivered my monitor an hour or so ago. got your's yet? 14.42.02 # got it today, yes 14.42.21 # did you try it yet? 14.42.38 # no, I'm in the office at work now and the monitor is for home 14.42.42 # rasher: the battery level meter doesn't show the voltage, it shows the estimated time left 14.42.50 # B4gder: hmm, same here 14.42.55 # based on the discharge curve 14.43.19 # which monitor u choose finally ? 14.43.59 # bobTHC: dell fp 2001, same as badger 14.45.10 # and ure 1st impression ? 14.45.29 # bobTHC: there are two cardboard boxes ;) 14.45.46 # :) 14.45.53 # i will look at it tonight, i just hope there are not too many dead pixels 14.47.26 # but the nice thing with online orders (at least in germany): you can always send the stuff back within two weeks :) 14.48.38 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 14.48.39 # it's better because the dell dead px policy is a little bit borderline : "A display with 1 to 5 fixed pixels is within the industry standards, and is therefore considered an acceptable display." 14.48.52 # ouch :/ 14.50.18 # well, i never looked at 1600x1200 displays, but i imagine ones without dead pixels are not as common as with smaller panels 14.50.23 # ram a screwdriver into it at complain that yours has two thousand dead pixels, they'll surely take it back 14.50.48 # there are occasions where you can actually massage a dead pixel to life 14.50.56 # cpr :-) 14.51.23 # preglow: hehe, the nice thing with the right to send it back within two weeks is that you don't have to give a reason at all. and the dealer pays for shipping it back, above a certain item value 14.51.35 # Lynx_: i know, we've got the same thing in norway 14.51.39 # yeah, i imagine that if it's stuck because the floating thinggy inside is stuck, flexing the screen might dislodge and fix it 14.51.56 # LinusN: is there a chance to kill all sourrounding pixels with the procedure? ;) 14.52.35 # unfortunately yes 14.52.45 # you have to be gentle 14.54.23 # hmm, i have a pixel thats fixed on on the display i'm sitting at 14.55.43 # (re password protection) I think a password stored on the harddisk would suffice. A thief is probably unlikely to know about rockbox and how to retrieve a password from it 15.02.28 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 15.06.10 Join muz [0] (~54091e6f@labb.contactor.se) 15.06.17 Quit muz (Client Quit) 15.06.55 Join djmuz [0] (~54091e6f@labb.contactor.se) 15.07.19 # hey guys 15.07.32 # i dont see iriverify on the open with menu 15.07.53 # and when i go to it on browse plugins i get some error 15.08.40 # oops 15.08.54 # just thought id tell ya 15.09.03 # it probably needs to be put in viewers.config as well 15.09.42 # Heh, the error when opening from the 'browse plugins' is fun 15.09.47 # yes 15.10.07 # is that like 'not a real plugin'? 15.10.18 # i get a "cant read file: -11" 15.10.24 # yes that 15.10.50 # surely it shudnt be in the plugins menu, but be in the open with menu only 15.11.11 # a proper viewers.config would fix that I guess 15.11.50 # i wish i cud program and be able to fix that myself 15.11.51 # fixed in cvs 15.12.27 # that's some report/response time :) 15.14.37 # cool how long will it take to compile? 15.15.01 # 20 minutes 15.15.23 # i was wonderin, who has the server or watever thing that compiles it 15.16.12 # it is located at our employer's office 15.16.37 # we == i, björn and daniel 15.16.37 # Bandwidth and server 15.16.37 # sponsored by: 15.16.37 # must be pretty powerful 15.16.53 # it's a dual athlon 1800 15.17.13 # debian linux 15.17.17 # mmmm 15.17.45 # so is the current battery level quite inaccurate? 15.18.03 # nah 15.18.09 # it seems pretty good 15.18.11 # I'd bet it's probably no worse than the iriver 15.18.13 # i think it's pretty good 15.18.58 # how on earth does it know wat the current level is tho, did you use them graphs? 15.19.06 # yup 15.19.15 # oh ok 15.19.19 # Yay, I've done something useful :) 15.19.39 # \o/ 15.19.45 # ooooo 15.19.57 # mp3 playback? 15.20.14 # i wud like jump and dance if it was 15.20.21 # no, I mean 15.20.24 # I did the graphs 15.20.36 # and they were useful 15.20.41 # yeah nice one 15.20.44 # So I feel all warm and fuzzy now 15.21.17 # so boring though :\ 15.22.16 # ooo the builds gonna complete soon yay 15.22.23 # otf playlists here i come 15.24.37 # or you could just add this line to .rockbox/viewers.config 15.24.44 # m3u,iriverify.rock,00 00 00 00 00 00 15.24.55 # yeah thats true 15.25.13 # i probly cud have guessed to put that in 15.25.20 # cos if u look at the ones above 15.25.23 # neway 15.28.06 # ok its on the "writing" stage, and has been for a while 15.28.24 # probably takes a while 15.29.22 # i just went opened an mp3 with the iriverify plugin, and its still sayin that 15.29.33 # and *mp3*? 15.29.38 # an 15.29.40 # yeah 15.29.49 # you're meant to open m3us 15.29.54 # ohcrap im ment to 15.29.58 # omg im so stupid 15.30.09 # wheres my pin gone 15.30.18 # the amount of times iv reset i tell ya 15.30.33 # yeah 15.30.40 # Same here 15.30.49 # I think I've managed to wear the reset button a bit 15.31.02 # it's sortof not in the right place now 15.31.12 # if i break hopefully iriver will replace 15.31.21 # they seem to be quite generous 15.31.29 # reading assembly is boring 15.31.31 # just be sure to remove rockbox first :) 15.31.49 # yeah 15.32.02 # but they probly just replace, without even looking at the damage 15.32.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.33.03 # djmuz: did you have to reset??? 15.33.26 # yes cos i was bein stupid 15.33.40 # i opened an mp3 with iriverfy 15.33.46 # it shouldnn't hang because of that 15.34.03 # it wud be nice if it checked that its an m3u 15.34.23 # are you sure it hangs? 15.34.31 # HCl: what you reading for? 15.34.46 # either that or it stays on the "writing" bit for ages 15.34.47 # preglow: reverse engineering this encryption of a piece of software i got 15.34.53 # i pressed stop and nothin happened 15.35.00 # the backlight didnt even come on 15.35.16 # oh 15.36.28 # i like beta testing 15.40.42 # just thought ud like to know that iriverify now works and i now have otf playlists yay 15.42.13 # so how do i trigger iriverify? 15.42.21 # i assume pressing play triggers the use of a playlist... 15.42.34 # create an m3u playlist as normal on rockbox, then open that m3u file with iriverfy 15.43.00 # djmuz: ah, but the 'with iriverify' bit is the bit that i'm missing 15.43.22 # yeah you need to get the latest build 15.43.46 # i have the latest cvs 15.43.59 # i don't know how to trigger the 'with iriverify' bit. specifically. ie, which buttons 15.44.15 # you go to the "open with" thing 15.44.22 # then at the bottom it shud say iriverfy 15.44.31 # * ashridah notes he has no idea which button does that 15.44.47 # hold the joystick in 15.44.57 # aha 15.45.24 # ta 15.45.30 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 15.45.32 # working? 15.45.33 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.46.01 # yeah 15.49.03 # how can i move the line cursor when renaming a file on the iriver? 15.49.22 # on archos you press on and then left/right 15.49.49 # cant press two buttons at once on iriver (the adc wotsit wont let ya) 15.50.13 # uh. why would buttons be done using an ADC? buttons aren't analog :) 15.50.27 # but yes, that does suck 15.50.51 # i dunno i was tryin to be clever 15.50.53 # i'm still not familiar enough with the button layouts for rockbox, and i've been compiling it for like 3 months :) 15.51.55 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (DJ_Dooms_D@dialup-248.49.194.203.acc01-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 15.52.29 # djmuz: hold Play 15.52.45 # ok 15.53.24 # the iriver button layout is just an ugly hack to get it going 15.53.34 # we'll have to work on that later on 15.53.54 # holding play dont work 15.54.09 # pressing play gives the ok for the rename 15.54.15 # oops 15.54.36 # its not a big problem sorry im bein all fussy 15.55.51 # hmm, we'll have to work out a better interface for the iriver pseudo keyboard... 15.56.53 # how can i clear the current playlist 15.57.20 # LinusN: it could even include help below it :) 15.57.24 # * ashridah gets bored and resumes playing with JFLAP 15.57.39 # hurray for java apps with semi-dodgy interfaces! 15.57.51 # at least it's decent at what it's for, even if it is unweildy 15.59.29 Join webguest15 [0] (~81b1111b@labb.contactor.se) 16.00.30 # hey guys, good work. I tried the iriverify-plugin, but do not know how I get the iriver firmware to use the playlist. 16.01.01 # webguest15: press the a-b button quickly 16.01.23 # it should change to the playlist selection window, you can choose any .m3u file fromanywhere on the player with that by filename 16.01.33 # thanks 16.02.20 # ok, I get it 16.04.13 # I thougt that I was forced to have a /playlists directory, so I moved the dynamic.m3u playlist to there and iriverified it. Rockbox then got a decent hang stating "writing". :) 16.04.42 # webguest15: nah, they can be anywhere. i just loaded one from a Music directory. 16.06.02 # ok, great 16.07.07 Quit djmuz ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.07.50 # hmm, when deleting a file in rockbox it says PLAY = yes, but it's joystick-press that is correct 16.08.31 # webguest15: yes, the key bindings for rockbox on iriver still suck :) 16.08.49 # ashridah: hehe 16.09.29 # everything will be fine in time, may have some time to contribute later. school pretty much sucks as well 16.10.08 # that's what the nights are for! ;-) 16.10.28 # I thought that was homework o.O 16.10.47 # * ashridah mutters vile things about the need to write an essay on grammars, and the relationship between grammars and the rest of computing theory 16.11.03 # B4gder: your'e right. Girlfriends on the other hand usually do not agree. 16.11.08 # hehe 16.11.21 # then marry her, and you can tell her to shutup :-P 16.11.30 # * ashridah tosses webguest15 a male self-gratification implement. 16.11.33 Part bobdbob 16.11.39 # now don't show that line to my wife... 16.11.47 # hehe 16.11.48 # haha 16.11.57 # ashridah: those are surgically removed upon getting a girlfriend 16.12.04 # * ashridah files that away in 'blackmail/bagder' 16.12.20 # rasher: you're dating the wrong girls then. 16.12.35 # I'm not. 16.12.41 # I was talking generally :) 16.13.33 # well, anyway 16.13.38 Nick ashridah is now known as Lost-ash (ashridah@220-253-121-39.VIC.netspace.net.au) 16.14.05 # actually, nevermind what I said 16.14.19 # I'm obviously blind and incapable of reading 16.15.51 # right, back to whatever I was doing. Bye 16.15.58 Part webguest15 16.23.43 Part LinusN 16.24.02 Quit preglow ("leaving") 16.28.03 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 16.35.57 Join mecraw [0] (fwuser@69.2.235.2) 16.36.12 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 16.52.26 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 16.54.12 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.umbc.edu) 16.56.25 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-157-72-191.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) 17.00.12 Quit Lost-ash ("Leaving") 17.27.48 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 17.32.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.50.45 Quit B4gder ("Lämnar") 17.51.30 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (~munkee@abyss2.demon.co.uk) 17.55.52 Quit Ka (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.57.32 Quit Patr3ck_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.06.17 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010733332pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 18.16.45 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 18.18.36 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day () 18.36.44 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-96-135.dsl.pipex.com) 18.51.14 # hm... 18.51.23 # is there a way to diff two files in CVS? 18.51.30 # w/o checking them out? 18.51.37 # cvs diff? 18.51.41 # cvs diff -u -r 1.12 -r 1.13 test.txt 18.51.50 # cvs diff: in directory .: 18.51.50 # cvs [diff aborted]: there is no version here; do 'cvs checkout' first 18.52.05 # ahh, like that, don't know then 19.01.33 Join TCK| [0] (TCK@81-86-103-0.dsl.pipex.com) 19.19.47 Quit TCK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.19.59 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.21.35 # t0mas: use the webcvs access thing. 19.21.51 # yeah, wanted it in a script 19.22.05 # but #cvs helped me out :) 19.22.06 # rcsdiff 19.22.10 # is a tool for this 19.32.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.51.49 Join webguest50 [0] (~52330794@labb.contactor.se) 19.52.36 Quit webguest50 (Client Quit) 20.16.30 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-96-144.dsl.pipex.com) 20.32.05 Quit lolo-laptop (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.32.41 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 20.34.49 Quit TCK| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.38.10 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa246.6.tellas.gr) 20.46.55 Join F1^Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 20.53.41 Join pfavr [0] (~Peter_Fav@213.237.46.232.adsl.ron.worldonline.dk) 20.55.18 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-2-155.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.55.40 # hello 21.02.52 Quit Aison (Connection refused) 21.10.30 # helo 21.10.50 # Hi Preglow 21.11.42 # hi Tang 21.12.19 # Hi tOmas 21.12.20 # :) 21.12.32 # :DDDDDDDD 21.12.53 # i've downloaded the daily build 21.13.02 # I'll update today 21.13.09 # (i've not my iHP with me) 21.13.22 Nick F1^Aison is now known as Aison` (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 21.15.45 # i'm thinking about 21.15.53 # mauybe yuo should update in the news 21.16.06 # since the manual is released by Chritie in v2.4 21.16.08 # :) 21.17.42 # cool, i didn't know 21.20.34 Join RanzQ [0] (ranzq@a80-186-194-60.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 21.23.40 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.24.03 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-4599.bb.online.no) 21.27.16 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 21.27.17 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 21.27.19 Quit silencer (Nick collision from services.) 21.30.41 # has anyone here got tips for archos gmini 400 ? 21.31.49 # what kind of tips? 21.32.10 # :) 21.32.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.32.16 # hum about iAudio 21.32.18 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 21.32.23 # also i wanted to add sthg 21.32.41 Quit RanzQ ("Pois...") 21.35.31 # iaudio may become a future rockbox platform, actually 21.35.42 # seems like at least some of them has the same cpu as h1x0 21.42.22 # indeed 21.42.26 # what i wanted to say 21.42.41 # is that not only the iAudio M3 use the same CF5249 21.42.49 # but also the M5 21.43.15 # and even the X5 (same with LCD color and limited video support as H3xx) 21.43.16 # :) 21.43.42 # x5 as well? 21.43.42 # shit 21.43.47 # the x5 looks kind of sweet, really 21.44.02 # i hate the joystick, but the bundled firmware certainly seems better than irivers offerings 21.45.41 # how did you find that out, btw? 21.48.55 # as for the limited video support, no shit, the mcf5249 isn't a miracle cpu, heh 21.49.06 # as i have so sorely experienced myself 21.49.34 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.51.08 # indeed ^preglow 21.51.28 # i m gonna serach just a minute 21.53.16 # http://www.mp3-player.de/artikel.php?ArtNr=1544&PHPSESSID=f19bda942596767baf235e196d8ece0e 21.53.20 # her ewe are 21.53.50 # "Chipsatz: Motorola/Freescale ColdFire SCF5249" 21.54.03 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 21.54.04 # And the limited video support also agree this 21.54.11 # since it's same for H3xx 21.54.12 # :) 21.54.14 # ;) 21.54.40 # i thought the h3x0 just did 10fps 21.55.07 # indeed 21.55.11 # what's the matter? 21.55.53 # nothing 21.57.42 # mmm i mean 21.57.53 Join TCK| [0] (TCK@81-86-96-68.dsl.pipex.com) 21.57.54 # it'll be the same for the X5 21.57.59 # no doubt 21.59.34 # video is a selling point ... but without a video out, it's not that useful IMHO. It's a curiosity 22.00.38 # it would be useless with video out as well 22.00.45 # yuo're true :) 22.00.53 # 10 fps video in a shit low resolution is not something i want to watch on my television 22.01.20 # rofl 22.01.31 # simply not Multimedia jukebox 22.02.04 # you can get low cost devices that do tv resolution record and playback - so it's only a little off the mark 22.07.46 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.08.50 # yes, yes, sure, but none of them are mcf5249 powered :) 22.12.50 # I wonder what's in Mustek's box 22.13.34 # i go 22.13.36 # bye 22.13.40 # have fun 22.13.53 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.13.56 # thanks smae to you 22.14.04 Quit Tang ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041108]") 22.15.36 # * t0mas is going to bed 22.15.47 Quit t0mas ("bye") 22.18.00 Join asdsd_ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-32-213.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 22.19.03 # http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=8463&GroupID=0 22.19.22 # it might be a nice platform to run rockbox on :) 22.44.25 # H340! 22.44.30 # :-D 22.45.38 Join Bippy [0] (~519833a8@labb.contactor.se) 22.47.44 Quit Bippy (Client Quit) 22.48.05 # yo lolo-laptop 22.48.13 # hi 22.54.19 # hi! 22.58.31 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050404]") 23.14.40 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.6/20050324]") 23.16.33 Quit TCK| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.16.33 Quit tvelocity ("Leaving") 23.16.36 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.17.20 # evening LinusN 23.22.16 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 23.23.38 # evening 23.23.46 # enjoying your new screen? 23.24.04 # not using it yet 23.24.23 # didn't wanna mess around with it since Agnes is asleep in the room just next 23.24.31 # nextdoor 23.32.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.33.47 # move the rig to another room :> 23.34.00 # moving a whole computer is bound to be a silent procedure 23.34.49 # I can wait till the morning 23.35.06 # a final night with the crt ;-) 23.35.12 # heh 23.35.16 # i'd like an lcd 23.35.25 # but i don't like dead pixels, and i would like higher resolutions 23.35.47 # higher than what? 23.36.03 # something like 1600x1200 23.36.18 # that's what I'll use 23.36.28 # how much did you spend on it? 23.36.35 # 5300 SEK 23.36.49 # manufacturer and device name, please :) 23.36.55 # * LinusN has a 2001fp without dead pixels 23.36.58 # dell 2001fp 23.37.54 # and it has 4:3 aspect ratio, then? 23.38.18 # yes 23.38.29 # i've noticed most lcd displays have some strange aspect ratio 23.44.18 # looks like a nice display 23.45.46 # 5300 sek... >.< 23.45.59 # it is or was on sale 23.46.10 # that's more than what I paid for this laptop... 23.46.18 # depending on the state of the sek 23.46.34 # can get it for around 5800nok, i see 23.46.41 # 5300 SEK (Sweden Krona) = 4321.022 DKK (Denmark Krone) 23.46.55 # whoa 23.47.04 # well, it's less than what I paid.. then 23.47.04 # 5300 SEK (Sweden Krona) = 4732.541 NOK (Norway Krone) 23.47.08 # doesn't sound as impressive 23.47.25 # haha 23.47.50 Quit asdsd_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.48.16 # I believe lynx got it slightly cheaper in germany just now 23.49.26 # i'm not afraid of getting anything cheaper in norway 23.51.20 Join _aLF [0] (Alexandre@mutualite-3-82-67-66-128.fbx.proxad.net) 23.52.45 # this crt most certainly is ready for the dumpster 23.53.34 # my crt died 23.53.43 # not even five years old 23.53.46 # this has died several times 23.53.50 # i've brought it back every time 23.53.54 # hehe 23.53.56 # voodoo? 23.54.00 # through generous use of cursing and wild shouting 23.54.17 # and some well-meant stroking 23.54.25 # goats sacrifized at midnight do wonders ;-) 23.54.26 # i guess it's due for another failure in about a weeks time 23.54.28 # what's the size of this tft? 23.54.36 # 20" 23.54.42 # ah 23.54.45 # i'll have to make do with seagulls and spaniards 23.54.51 # I understand the 5300 sek better now 23.55.08 # ;-) 23.56.50 # 4422 dkk 23.57.14 # price at dell denmark, that is