--- Log for 08.04.105 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 days and 8 hours ago 00.04.45 Join muesli- [0] (muesli_tv@hmln-d51475ab.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.04.59 # re 00.13.39 # rasher: i do dancing tricks in exchange for beer 00.14.41 # i'll do that too 00.15.19 # I get beer for seeing your tricks? ;-) 00.15.42 # nah, I don't think its worth it 00.16.57 Join austriancoder [0] (~austrianc@80.120.117.30) 00.17.03 # hi all 00.17.09 # howdy ho 00.17.28 # grützi :D 00.17.31 # nothing like a good beer before going to bed 00.17.46 # muesil: zewas 00.21.20 # is somebody working on on the multi-codec architecture? 00.21.28 # yes i am 00.22.11 Quit _aLF (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.22.14 # i wonder when people will start requesting xvid playback :) 00.22.49 # no, nothing else than half life 2 ^^ 00.23.18 # I demand nothign less than a gamecube emulator ;D 00.24.53 # LinusN: any thoughts on an internal sample format yet? should the codec be invoked with a wanted resolution parameter, or should the dac output module convert from whatever the codec produces to what the dac needs? 00.24.54 # * rasher cheers LinusN along 00.25.42 # preglow: not sure yet, i guess we should let all codecs deliver the same format 00.25.56 # LinusN: i agree, i was just thinking about insertable dsp effects again 00.26.22 # having a predictable format all the way to the dsp would be good 00.26.31 # indeed 00.26.38 # s/dsp/dac/ 00.26.47 # n8 ladiez 00.26.54 # n8 00.27.15 # i made some nice eq filters the other day i'd like to stuff into rockbox when it's ready 00.27.39 Quit lolo-laptop ("Client exiting") 00.28.38 # preglow: nice 00.30.05 # for that the emac unit is at well-suited 00.30.19 # at least 00.30.43 # i still haven't followed through on my threat to start reading through my sentences before pushing enter 00.33.36 # :-) 00.34.31 # * LinusN continues his seemingly endless work with internal changes that changes absolutely nothing for the user... 00.35.23 # the most rewarding work 00.35.33 # so unglamourous 00.37.12 # perhaps the best thing would be to have all codecs output at 32 bits resolution 00.37.39 # perhaps 00.37.46 # but that would make for a lot of useless shifts 00.37.50 # "useless", at that 00.37.53 # yeah 00.38.10 # it would make the life easier for me when making dsp plugins :P 00.38.36 # but it would prevent "in-place mixing" 00.38.45 # that it would 00.39.00 # which reminds me of the big pcm buffer crossfading idea 00.39.32 # we'll require two buffers, unless we can make the codecs themselves do the fading 00.39.48 # mmmm crossfading 00.39.51 # probably yes 00.39.53 # Plasma demo 00.39.55 # not just probably :P 00.39.57 # wooo 00.40.00 # it's pretty much a fact 00.40.02 # good night all... my headach is getting worser and worser 00.40.09 # austriancoder: sleep tight 00.40.16 # austriancoder: night, headaches suck 00.40.17 # Plasma! 00.40.21 Part austriancoder 00.40.31 # Requiring greyscale I assume 00.40.41 # yes 00.40.42 # all codecs will have to do mixing output, and need to be able to generate a fading curve 00.40.46 # of variable length 00.41.12 # the bad part is that this requires us zeroing the output buffers, and the fading logic will go unused a lot of the time 00.41.27 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a194.wi.tds.net) 00.41.30 # unless we also have two output routines for each codec, one mixing, and one replacing 00.42.06 # i guess we'll find out which is the best 00.42.06 # an idea that's utilized in at least a couple of plugin apis i know of 00.42.18 # as we code along 00.42.19 # Someone do a tunnel demo now and we're set. 00.42.27 # hehe 00.42.37 # haha 00.42.48 # yeah, stop that sound work and get working on those demos ;-) 00.42.51 # * LinusN has to sleep 00.42.56 # demos on portables would rock so badly 00.43.00 # Nooooo, don't 00.43.02 # LinusN: sleep tight 00.43.14 # cu in a few hours :-) 00.43.28 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-99-86.dsl.pipex.com) 00.43.49 # the demo scene needs hardware limitations, or it just regresses to pointless and boring 3d shows 00.44.03 # absolutely 00.44.26 # i have seen so many incredibly boring demos 00.44.35 # 64k is fun 00.44.35 # that's why the pc demo scene has to invent artificial limits, like 4k intros etc 00.44.36 # 3d was good when it required effort 00.44.39 # now it's just plain boring 00.44.52 # in most cases, at least 00.45.18 # nite all! 00.45.20 # gnight 00.45.24 Part LinusN 00.46.04 # but yes, i'll stop ranting about the state of current demos, i'll go on for quite a while 00.47.42 # Heh 00.48.29 # * Bagder goes to sleep as well 00.48.52 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 00.49.08 Quit muesli- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.50.24 Join amiconn [0] (~jens@pD95D1547.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.51.17 # well, it sounds like a good idea if nothing else 00.51.21 # good night! 00.51.28 Quit preglow ("wop") 00.57.31 Quit StrathAFK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.58.36 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-7.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.59.47 Quit DMJC ("Leaving") 01.14.05 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 01.14.07 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 01.17.13 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 01.19.01 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-171-89.tpgi.com.au) 01.20.04 Quit Aison` ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 01.24.05 Quit Ka ("* poof *") 01.32.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.33.16 Quit pabs (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.37.23 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (DJ_Dooms_D@dialup-162.32.221.203.acc13-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 01.37.44 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050404]") 01.42.29 Join XShocK [0] (~XShocK@pcp09492659pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 02.00.34 Join Aison [0] (~Aison@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 02.04.52 Part Aison 02.09.25 Join Aison` [0] (~Aison@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 02.09.28 Quit Aison` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.25.26 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010733332pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 02.25.41 # hm. 02.31.38 Join bobdbob_ [0] (~bobdbob@ics151-142.icsincorporated.com) 02.41.27 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 02.43.50 Quit edx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.44.07 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB353.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.09.46 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 03.12.24 Quit DMJC ("Leaving") 03.12.41 Quit XShocK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.13.15 Join XShocK [0] (~XShocK@pcp09492659pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 03.14.24 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa246.6.tellas.gr) 03.30.34 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.32.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.47.23 Nick tvelocity is now known as tvelocity[away] (~tony@ipa246.6.tellas.gr) 04.05.38 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.07.11 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a194.wi.tds.net) 04.07.15 Quit Strath (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.08.19 Join Ago__ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 04.08.22 Quit Ago_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.11.04 Quit QT (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 04.18.07 Join Bagder_ [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 04.22.36 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.25.07 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-171-89.tpgi.com.au) 04.27.40 Join Lost-ash [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-7.VIC.netspace.net.au) 04.28.12 Quit ashridah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.34.47 Join pabs [0] (~pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 04.52.16 Quit edx (Operation timed out) 05.01.51 Join keith [0] (~keith@cpe-066-057-071-078.nc.res.rr.com) 05.02.14 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.14.52 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (ashridah@220-253-121-7.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.22.09 Join keith_ [0] (~keith@cpe-066-057-071-078.nc.res.rr.com) 05.22.15 Quit keith ("leaving") 05.32.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.53.38 Nick keith_ is now known as ckh (~keith@cpe-066-057-071-078.nc.res.rr.com) 05.54.06 Part ckh ("Leaving") 06.05.21 Quit lostlogic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.12.47 Join Howman [0] (~XShocK@pcp09492659pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 06.12.48 Quit XShocK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.12.48 Nick Howman is now known as XShocK (~XShocK@pcp09492659pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 06.13.39 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (DJ_Dooms_D@203.220.52.156) 06.34.54 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9522CCF.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.01.03 Quit ashridah (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.01.08 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-7.VIC.netspace.net.au) 07.05.52 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 07.11.18 # hi Linus 07.13.49 # hi 07.32.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.36.06 Quit XShocK (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client") 07.37.37 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 07.41.27 Join ABerg [0] (~abe@lsn-boi-catv-c124-p070.vtx.ch) 07.44.48 # Hi Linus. I see you are currently working on mp3 playback. 07.45.02 # I made a design proposal for the audio API a while ago. 07.45.05 # http://www.geocities.com/aberguerand/Design.txt 07.45.32 # Maybe you can find something interesting in it. 07.47.41 # thanks 07.49.18 # Good morning 07.50.43 # My coding skills have been replaced by management skills, so this is the best I can do to help Rockbox. 07.56.15 # amiconn: morning 07.56.43 # ABerg: it's good that you've given it some thought 07.59.34 # i put a link to your proposal in the wiki 08.00.39 # Thanks. I did not want to put it directly in the wiki as there already is a proposal in it 08.03.29 # most of the loader/feeder functionality is already present in rockbox, for the mp3 playback in the archos 08.05.04 # I tried to read the source then, but it was so mixed with archos specific code, that I could not figure exactly how it was done. 08.05.15 # hehe 08.05.38 # Maybe I should try to look at it again after your clean-up is done. 08.05.44 # yeah 08.42.04 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 08.50.18 Quit ABerg (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 08.57.08 Join hibou [0] (~a4810127@labb.contactor.se) 09.13.10 Quit Bagder_ ("Off to search for that connect-resetting peer guy!") 09.15.36 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 09.16.00 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.22.20 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 09.24.36 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l07v-1-26.d1.club-internet.fr) 09.24.46 # hi noble people ! 09.28.10 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 09.32.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.42.30 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 09.43.01 # zero dead pixels 09.43.11 # yippie! 09.43.19 # but my dvi is wrong somehow 09.43.22 # oh? 09.43.37 # it shows wrong resolution 09.43.46 # weirdo 09.44.04 # you remember any particular config to get it working? 09.44.12 # not at all 09.44.15 # it just worked 09.45.17 # Bagder: also zero dead pixels here :) 09.45.17 # which video card? 09.45.26 # matrox 09.45.45 # dvi-D or dvi-I ? 09.46.06 # D 09.46.07 # i remember that my old rage card couldn't handle full resolution with DVI 09.46.19 # Bagder: thanks for mentioning the screen here, i really like it! 09.46.26 # LinusN: aha, could be something like that then... I better read up 09.47.11 # finally a reason to get a new cool gfx card! :-) 09.47.32 # yeah, with lots of fans and crap 09.47.37 # lol 09.47.53 # Bagder: get a 6800 and a schooner 09.48.15 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@p3E9C3A9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.48.43 # with fancy blue neon and large copper dissipator 09.48.44 # Bagder: did you also get the power cable separatly? 09.48.50 # Lynx_: yes 09.49.02 # I bet it is because it is country-specific, while the rest is generic 09.49.19 # * LinusN is scratching his head, trying to figure out the best way of handling watermarks in the pcm buffer 09.49.20 # yes, i guess. surprising that the extra shipping is cheaper than packing it in the main box 09.49.52 # yes, that's interesting 09.50.30 # * LinusN ordered 5 tiny chips and got them in a huge cardboard box, had trouble finding the chips among all the packing materials 09.50.51 # " maximum resolution of 1280 x 1024 @ 24-bit" 09.50.54 # grrrrr 09.50.58 # hehe 09.51.05 # LinusN fyi: I just uploaded a patch that improves the ui for the trigger. 09.51.10 # aha! 09.51.27 # Now Martin Borus can't complain any more :) 09.51.52 # (but I didn't do my homework yet: no simulator improvements) 09.53.21 # * LinusN slaps kurzhaarrocker on his fingers 09.53.26 # my card even handles the dell at 1600 and my old monitor at 1024 on analog :) 09.53.26 # ouch 09.56.06 # kurzhaarrocker: could you do me a favour and rename the SOURCE_xxx macros to REC_SOURCE_xxx and move them to settings.h? 09.56.13 # in your patch 09.56.19 # yes 09.56.27 # so we don't duplicate the #defines 09.56.46 # * kurzhaarrocker didn't have a good feeling about that anyway :) 09.57.25 # it might even be nicer to move the recording init to a function in recording.c 09.57.35 # and call that from sound_menu 09.58.15 # ... and make the set_gain method public 09.58.16 # linus > what u think about the Alain Berguerand api proposal ? 09.58.46 # bobTHC: it pretty much mimics the way it works today 09.59.13 # :) 09.59.18 # except for the codec parts of course 09.59.44 # but it's good to have it in writing 10.00.14 # * LinusN wals off to the lab for a few moments 10.00.18 # walks 10.13.13 # Hm. Now that rec_init_recording exists the REC_SOURCE_XXX constants aren't shared any more. Shall I still move them to settings.h? 10.13.59 # hi kurzhaarrocker 10.14.08 # moin amiconn 10.14.21 # <- tries not to break any ondio things. Honestly! 10.14.29 # I have a little improvement request for the trigger 10.14.36 # which? 10.15.23 # A mode with repeated trigger, but *not* starting a new file each stop/start, only pause the recording when trigger stop condition is met 10.15.46 # That would be very useful for using the archos as a dictaphone 10.16.41 # Hm. The advantage would that you could delete the entire dictate with one file only. 10.16.54 # pretty good idea 10.16.59 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECEA5D.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.17.12 # Yes... and it is easier to send a whole dictate by email - one file only 10.17.55 # Maybe I'll find time this weekend to do my homework. :) 10.21.21 # badger i found the gfx card u need : http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?pageID=1426&Submit=Go&cID=776 ;) 10.22.13 # little , silent, cheap... lol 10.22.21 # hahah 10.23.43 # My 2 GB MMC arrived :) 10.24.46 # Any useful data on it, amiconn? :) 10.25.31 # how much for 2gig ? 10.26.19 # kurzhaarrocker: No. 10.26.42 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 10.26.48 # hi all 10.26.56 # i got a *panic* 10.27.01 # ata: -42 10.27.15 # while starting rockbox 10.27.23 # batteries? 10.27.25 # bobTHC: Got it from eBay... opened once, but otherwise new, with invoice. 151 € 10.27.46 # evil: rockbox.zip has 666kb 10.27.55 # this could be, that the batteries are empty 10.28.16 # would it not better, to shutdown the player if there is such an error? 10.28.51 # perhaps 10.29.21 # we could warn about the low battery level and then shut off 10.29.25 # the original one shows a screen that battiers are low and shutsdown the pleayer 10.29.46 # seems to be a nice idea 10.30.02 # not top prio right now though 10.30.03 # else i must everytime reset the player 10.30.09 # thats ok 10.30.32 # is this code in the bootloader or in rockbox? 10.30.39 # if it is in rockbox, i could code it 10.30.39 # boot loader 10.30.42 # ok 10.30.49 # thats to heavy for me 10.31.05 # the boot loader uses the rockbox code 10.31.15 # i dont want to detroy my iriver with a non working bootloader 10.31.21 # no you don't 10.31.30 # ah 10.31.43 # so i chage stuff in rockbox and everthing should work? 10.31.49 # meaning "no you don't want that" 10.32.04 # ok :) 10.32.32 Quit kurzhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 10.42.05 # * austriancoder lloks through feature requests 10.43.25 # austriancoder: looking for something to do? 10.43.33 # yep 10.43.48 # iriver, i presume 10.44.01 # most of the remote lcd code is done.. but i can't test it until lcd.s is done 10.44.03 # yep 10.44.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ThingsTodo 10.44.56 # speaking of lcd, i have a bug for you to fix 10.45.18 # ok.. lets hear 10.45.35 # enable the lcd "upside down" setting, and you'll see 10.46.13 # one moment 10.46.37 # general settings->display->lcd settings->upside down 10.47.05 # ok.. looks a little bit ugly 10.48.10 # will look into it.. right now 10.50.49 # * austriancoder switches to linux.. 10.51.15 Quit austriancoder ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.55.24 Join austriancoder [0] (~austrianc@80.120.117.30) 10.55.31 # re 11.25.33 # lunch time 11.30.00 # yeah.. 11.32.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.41.03 Quit webmind (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.47.56 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 11.49.34 Join webmind [0] (~webmind@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 11.54.58 # got again a panic 11.55.24 # GIO_OUT: 000800080 11.55.47 # GPIO_FUNCTION: 816C0280 11.56.13 # GPIO_ENABLE: 816C02C0 11.56.33 # GPIO_READ: 069F7674 11.56.47 # GPIO_OUT: 000A4008 11.56.58 # woops 11.56.58 # zip:/home/austriancoder/rockbox/build/rockbox.zip/.rockbox 11.56.59 # zip:/home/austriancoder/rockbox/build/rockbox.zip/rockbox.iriver 11.57.03 # woops 11.57.21 # i will try a newer bootloder.. i hope all may problems are gone then 11.57.37 # ata: -42 with 89% battery 11.59.44 # LinusN: could you try the newest iriver firmware to merge with rockbox? 12.04.30 # eu version 12.29.30 Quit Nibbler ("blubber") 12.33.34 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 12.42.06 Quit Ago__ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 12.43.10 Join Ago__ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 12.44.36 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-23-78.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.45.46 # :) 12.45.55 # austriancoder: i intend to try the 1.65 firmware, but i haven't had time 12.46.23 # austriancoder: do you ever have the "check hdd connection" error with the irver firmware? 12.46.40 # ho 12.56.58 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 13.07.52 Quit Bagder ("Off to search for that connect-resetting peer guy!") 13.21.37 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.23.45 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 13.26.50 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 13.27.02 # hi all 13.32.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.34.27 # hi Moos 13.34.54 # hi Tang 13.35.03 # private 14.07.44 # LinusN: I haver had the "check hdd connection" error 14.13.33 # haver = never 14.15.09 # new bootloader is musch faster :) 14.15.14 # seems that this was the problem 14.17.22 # oh my englisch sucks today 14.20.17 Join Patr3ck_ [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECF04D.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.25.55 Quit Patr3ck (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.31.51 # there is a new bootloader? 14.31.59 # with 1.65fw maybe? 14.32.02 # :| 14.33.54 # hum no i checked the wikiboot section 14.34.05 # still 1.63 14.38.14 Join jessefarrell [0] (~d31c94d2@labb.contactor.se) 14.38.22 # hey can anyone help me 14.38.33 # i'm panicing 14.38.36 # ? 14.38.39 # What? 14.38.52 # i think Linus is not away 14.39.07 # * LinusN hides 14.39.19 # i've put the iriver bootloader on and have had it for a while and now it says *PANIC* 14.39.22 # and i can't do anything 14.39.34 # you have any ideas:D 14.39.35 # push the reset button 14.39.40 # i have 14.39.53 # and what happens? 14.39.58 # nothinh 14.40.03 # at all? 14.40.19 # nope 14.40.29 # then your reset button is broken 14.40.38 # yeh probably 14.40.42 # :/ 14.40.43 # or you aren't pushing it correctly 14.40.47 # i'll just have to wait till it runs out won't i 14.40.47 # maybe 14.40.56 # i used the RESET quite often since Rbx 14.41.07 # seems to work still right 14.41.10 # :s 14.41.38 # jessefarrell: what does the panic message say? 14.41.48 # i like put the thing in the reset button further than usual 14.41.59 # maybe you missed it then 14.42.03 # ohh it says "ata:-71" 14.42.25 # 71... 14.42.40 # yeh -71 14.43.22 # is that bad? 14.43.25 # a very unusual message 14.43.54 # did the rockbox logo show before that? 14.44.04 # no like debug thingo 14.44.08 Join kurzhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@p3E9C3A9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.44.22 # ok 14.44.32 # Do any the IRivers support volume triggered recording? 14.44.41 # what are you using to reset it? 14.44.49 # kurzhaarrocker: yes, the H100 14.44.53 # like thin piece of wire 14.45.15 # jessefarrell: make sure that you don't miss the reset button 14.45.20 # ok 14.45.29 # i shall try find something like a pin 14.45.31 # it is perfectly possible to stick the wire past the button inside 14.46.00 # LinusN: Do you mean that hardwaredetection of consecutive zero-samples or is it really supported by the original firmware? 14.46.20 # it's supported by the original firmware, since the latest 1.65 release 14.46.32 # funny. 14.48.05 # oh thank fuck for that, thanks for the help i just had to keep jaming a pin in and out of there 14.48.24 # :-) 14.48.45 # thanks again hope all goes well with this project 14.48.47 Quit jessefarrell ("CGI:IRC") 14.53.16 # lol it's quite frightening when the RESET seems to be unsensitive 14.53.17 # :) 14.55.45 # see you... real life is calling 14.55.48 Quit austriancoder ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11") 14.58.01 Quit bobTHC ("Smoke Weed Every Day !") 15.14.28 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 15.26.51 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 15.32.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.32.57 Quit Aison (Connection reset by peer) 15.33.21 Join F1^Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 15.37.54 Quit Ka (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.42.31 # I updated the patch for auto-selecting the recording source in the trigger setup dialog. 15.43.04 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 15.43.21 # hi 15.43.29 # HI 15.47.48 Join Ka [0] (~tkirk@pcp0010733332pcs.howard01.md.comcast.net) 15.48.02 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 15.48.17 # hi 15.48.22 Join courtc [0] (~court@adsl-33-162-17.asm.bellsouth.net) 15.48.35 # * LinusN goes home 15.48.39 Part LinusN 15.48.50 # Erp, ATA error: -71 15.49.05 # and there LinusN goes :) 15.49.09 # hehe 15.49.21 # batteries charged and fine? 15.49.35 # He mustn't go! He hasn't committed my patch! :) 15.49.45 # 41% 15.49.53 # (adc value: DC) 15.50.22 # may be something that happened when unmounting 15.50.50 # not sure.. I just shut down the computer and now it's giving that error 15.51.37 # May have happened before.. transferred some stuff to it without looking at it 15.52.29 # hdd led is stuck on red 15.52.42 # tried the reset button? 15.53.08 # sure, that fixes it 15.53.16 # still a bug of some sort :) 15.56.39 # we need a RLD on the iriver too ;-) 15.56.47 # Red Led Death 15.57.05 # dreaded problem on the Archos 15.57.08 # Funny, now the original firmware hangs on boot 15.57.13 # after booting fine last time 15.57.18 # with no rockbox boot in between 15.57.25 # Doesn't the iriver has differently colored leds? What a pity. 15.58.12 # * rasher tries to hit the reset switch 15.58.49 # Bagder: what timezone do you live in? 15.58.55 # CET 15.59.15 # same as you I figure 15.59.25 # yes 16.00.35 # I think #rockbox is mostly CET 16.01.11 # iriver has red and green led 16.01.17 # both are hardware controlled, i think 16.01.41 # Wouldn't it be fun to invent the GLD then? 16.02.03 # that'd mean stuck charging o.O 16.02.12 # hehe 16.02.21 # *grin* 16.02.59 # Catch the digital flow! 16.04.49 # apparently there's an iAUDIO song as well 16.05.05 # and BenQ (whatever that is) 16.05.34 # Pah, the should put Carangg on by default! :) 16.06.39 # * rasher nominates Bagder to find some old c64 scener to create the Rockbox theme song 16.06.51 # haha 16.06.56 # Linus used to compose 16.07.02 # on the music editor I wrote 16.07.16 # hunt for c64 tunes by "Skyline" 16.07.18 # oooh 16.07.31 # is it in hvsc? 16.07.35 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@83.69.98.204) 16.07.37 # no idea 16.07.47 # I'll check 16.08.02 # * kurzhaarrocker still has 1 1/2 C64 ... 16.08.22 # * rasher never had one 16.08.45 # which saddens me 16.08.52 # well, an Amiga would probably fit my age better 16.09.21 # I used to fry the "CIA" chips that are responsible for IO, when I converted my 9-needle printer into a scanner ... 16.09.52 # hm, not in hvsc, no 16.10.37 # i thought linus was boogaloo? 16.10.44 # yeps 16.11.18 # "Music by Boogaloo of Skyline Technics" 16.11.21 # ahh 16.11.28 # well then there's an entire directory for him :) 16.11.29 # i thought skyline was the handle 16.11.36 # various/a-f/Boogaloo/ 16.11.40 # we did the music as Skyline Technics 16.11.44 # and demos as Horizon 16.11.57 # for some odd reasons 16.11.58 # Swingy_Dingy.sid and more 16.12.16 # someone plenty of people still making music with c64 16.12.31 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 16.13.41 # * preglow is playing Goto80 - Llamawarning 16.13.47 # * rasher hugs xsidplay 16.14.12 # too bad no one has managed to emulate the sid filter perfectly yet 16.14.31 # It says "Copyright: 1990 Horizon" 16.14.48 # well as I said.. I never owned one.. so I'm not that much of a purist 16.15.19 # kurzhaarrocker Doesn't the iriver has differently colored leds? What a pity. 16.15.26 # "Stay a while, stay for ever!" 16.15.34 # i probably never would have remebered what the filter sounded like, but my sidstationen reminded me 16.15.40 # No need it freeze very very often to be fair 16.16.15 # *shrug* I don't own any irivers. 16.16.17 # (not talking about WIP Rbx fw of course) 16.16.35 # okay 16.16.47 # Ah, here's one saying skyline technics 16.17.26 # rasher: the people who made them available could of course also have mised horizon and skyline 16.17.39 # since Boogaloo, me and Zagor were... in both 16.18.00 # mixed 16.18.46 # the ones from 1990 or earlier say horizon 16.18.53 # The rest are from 1991 and say Skyline 16.19.00 # ok 16.19.13 # personally I don't care which ;-) 16.19.22 # of course, I have no idea how accurate this info is 16.22.02 Quit R3nTiL () 16.22.16 # Hi 16.22.28 # i begun the ForNoobs Wikisection 16.22.54 # nice 16.23.00 # it's good 16.23.02 # but i'll finish later since i'm not wlecome here on my parents connection 16.23.16 # i'll continue more discretly from University 16.24.08 # * Bagder goes cooking 16.25.58 Quit kurzhaarrocker (Remote closed the connection) 16.30.51 # oh, this one is boogaloo & zagor 16.34.21 Quit Tang ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041108]") 16.35.16 Nick F1^Aison is now known as Aison (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 16.44.28 Quit DJ_Dooms_Day () 16.56.40 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.01.11 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Lynx_awy (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 17.11.15 Join mecraw [0] (fwuser@69.2.235.2) 17.20.33 Part MoosCamaro 17.32.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.44.18 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.46.47 Join Nibbler [0] (~sven@port-212-202-73-247.dynamic.qsc.de) 17.49.04 Join Stryke` [0] (~Chairman8@resnet-241-86.resnet.UMBC.EDU) 17.51.43 Quit Patr3ck_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.14.37 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-157-72-191.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) 18.32.38 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 19.16.05 Quit bobdbob_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 19.16.05 # hmz.. 19.16.10 # anybody good at physics here? 19.16.24 # I had a discussion with some guy... about sound waves... 19.16.31 # V = f * L 19.16.40 # where V is sound-speed in normal air... 19.16.43 # and L = the greek labda 19.16.50 # and F is frequentie in hz.. 19.16.55 # so I told him: 19.17.05 Join bobdbob [0] (~bobdbob@ics151-142.icsincorporated.com) 19.17.14 # 343 m/s is the normal speed of sound 19.17.34 # and he was sure a 20 hz wave would fit his subwoofer 19.17.43 # no, it won't :P 19.17.48 # indeed :P 19.17.49 # a 20 hz wave is pretty long 19.17.56 # 17,15 meters 19.18.05 # but he wasn't convinced :P 19.18.24 # he's still sure the waves are about 30 cm, as that's what fits his subwoofer 19.18.32 # that's irrelevant 19.18.40 # yeah... 19.18.43 # afaik it is 19.18.48 # but I wasn't toally sure :) 19.18.57 # *totally 19.32.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.47.13 Quit tvelocity[away] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.55.05 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa246.6.tellas.gr) 20.02.28 Join Ago_ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 20.02.29 Quit Ago__ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.07.22 Join stevenm [0] (~steve@177-75.mam.umd.edu) 20.08.52 Quit Ago_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.09.11 Join Ago_ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 20.13.21 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 20.23.35 Join pfavr [0] (~Peter_Fav@213.237.46.232.adsl.ron.worldonline.dk) 20.31.27 Join Ago__ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 20.31.27 Quit Ago_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.31.48 Nick StrathAFK is now known as Strath (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a194.wi.tds.net) 20.32.45 Quit Strath ("Client closed") 20.36.31 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 20.45.17 Join asdsd_ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-100-28-131.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 20.48.21 Join Strath [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a194.wi.tds.net) 20.48.35 Join Ago_ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 20.48.53 Quit Ago__ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.49.08 Quit stevenm ("Leaving") 20.54.44 Join Ago__ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 20.55.24 Quit Ago_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.55.55 Quit TCK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.58.55 Quit asdsd_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 21.11.50 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 21.12.43 # hi all 21.12.44 Join Ago_ [0] (~Ago@213.187.91.65) 21.12.48 # hi 21.12.54 Quit Ago__ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.28.49 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.6/20050324]") 21.32.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.33.23 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 21.38.17 Quit t0mas () 21.38.57 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 21.41.46 # oeps :) 21.45.50 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-33-142.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.46.45 # re 21.47.26 # :) 21.47.56 # hi Tang 21.48.18 # Hi tOmas 21.48.20 # :) 21.48.30 # O -> 0 21.48.42 # the number 21.48.44 # Oh sorry 21.48.48 # T0mas 21.48.52 # no problem 21.49.03 # i'm specialist of mispelling unfortunately 21.49.06 # it isn't Tomas because someone already took that nick ;) 21.49.16 # i called LinusN LinusM a long time lol 21.49.33 # ghehe 21.49.40 # I keep calling him Linux :) 21.49.57 # a little autocompletion from my fingers ;) 21.50.08 # :D 21.50.31 # You're from Rbx t0mas? 21.50.43 # you mean? 21.51.07 # ftrom the team 21.51.09 # ? 21.51.10 # :) 21.51.12 # nope... 21.51.18 # just customized some things 21.51.19 # okay 21.51.33 # ah plugins? 21.52.16 # no, changed the wps screen to use images 21.52.26 # Ah indeed the WPS 21.52.37 # you did a topic on the board 21.52.39 # :) 21.53.03 # well it was DJ_D_D's topic :) 21.53.08 # but I used it for my idea :) 21.58.22 # Tang, t0mas: For the misspelling issue, there's that nice feature called tab autocompletion... 21.58.33 # yeah, I normally use it 21.58.43 # but Linux isn't always around 21.58.44 # ARG 21.58.45 # again 21.58.50 # Linus 21.58.53 # hum would be cool indeed amiconn 21.59.01 # (i did used TAB :)) 22.00.14 # :) 22.00.44 # nice i'm gonna play with this cool game: 22.01.05 # no mcth for lin 22.01.07 # :o 22.02.09 # MoosCamaro 22.02.15 # it work fine :D 22.02.44 # :) 22.08.13 # Linus started to update the fornoobs part 22.08.18 # thanks 22.08.31 # i'll finish this sunday 22.20.42 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe_@65.115.46.225) 22.21.32 # HCl: are you here? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.46.14 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@carlsberg.heim2.tu-clausthal.de) 22.48.31 Join zeekoe [0] (~zeekoe@ip51cc69f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 22.48.39 Quit zeekoe (Client Quit) 22.58.26 # Hmm, badness :( 22.58.40 # wut 22.58.44 # Rockbox on Ondio cannot read my new 2GB MMC 22.59.01 # However, it's not a hardware problem, as the archos firmware can... 22.59.13 # :-( 22.59.17 # more work then 22.59.23 # Guess it's time for some MMC driver work :-/ 23.00.38 # you mean, "yay! we found a bug!" 23.00.52 Quit elinenbe (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/") 23.00.59 # :p 23.02.06 # finding it is half the fun 23.04.12 Quit t0mas () 23.05.42 # lol 23.06.10 # Wth.... the archos firmware is able to read the dir, but playback is 'mostly' silent 23.09.11 # how much space does the ondio have natively? 23.10.14 # 128 MB 23.10.52 # ick, thats not much 23.10.55 # * HCl lags 23.18.36 # If your plugin consists of multiple files, do you just put the main .C file in apps/plugins and then put the rest in apps/plugins/whatever/ ? 23.18.57 # um. 23.19.02 # amiconn? 23.21.08 # i wonder if the mcd5249 is powerful enough to do he-aac 23.21.14 # mcf... 23.21.35 # stevenm: If you really have such a plugin (why would you? It's an absolute exception that a plugin needs multiple files.), you need to make your own makefile in a sub dir 23.21.53 # amiconn, this is a codec technically 23.22.32 # amiconn, it works when compiled standalone for a computer.. now I need to make it run on target. Gonna try porting it, not sure where to begin 23.22.35 # If it is a codec, it goes into apps/codecs/. You will then definitely need a Makefile 23.23.00 # stevenm: just midi2wav.c will have to be in the plugins dir 23.23.13 # preglow, ah.. I see 23.23.53 # preglow, stupid question: How do you generate a .wav file? I mean, I can look up the basic structure but do you need to know the number of samples ahead of time? 23.24.04 # look at xxx2wav. 23.24.10 # we have a framework for it 23.24.15 # * amiconn builds an ooold rockbox for ondio... 23.25.11 # ah, thanks 23.25.33 # bye good night all 23.25.35 # :) 23.25.35 Quit Tang ("Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041108]") 23.26.27 # stevenm: no, you don't, you just write samples all long as you have them, then write the header on exit, all this is done in xxx2wav 23.27.39 # preglow, ah, thanks 23.27.57 # I have a lot to learn about this thing 23.28.33 # and also how to write makefiles 23.29.38 # makefiles are satan 23.29.54 # nah 23.29.58 # sendmail config is satan 23.30.01 # or at least the incarnation of him that is closest to him in spirit 23.30.02 # makefiles are easy ;-) 23.30.10 # hshah 23.30.18 # sendmail config is pretty 23.30.34 # as pretty as line noise in the bbs days 23.30.40 # at least you can't complain it's not huffman coded 23.31.15 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.32.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.38.11 # preglow, all right, I put it all in there. How do I make it build the plugin? just run Make ? 23.38.32 # you add file name to the SOURCES file 23.38.37 # Now that is strange... I checked the error return from initialize_card(). It returns -7, meaning the card's default block size is not 512 ??? 23.38.42 # as for the codec itself, i have noe idea 23.38.55 # confusing.... 23.39.10 # preglow, ah ok 23.39.28 # Mrf, need to dump the csd... 23.40.07 # sounds reasonable for a 2gb disk amiconn 23.40.09 # oh, this is NOT going to be pretty. Is there a printf fuction of sorts? 23.40.44 # HCl: I don't think so. Even a 400 GB harddisk has a blocksize (sector size) of 512 bytes... 23.40.51 # O.o.. 23.40.51 # um. 23.40.52 # stevenm: snprintf() is there 23.40.59 # wth form of filesystem are you using? 23.41.03 # ohh. 23.41.10 # This is not a file system issue 23.41.11 # you mean disk sector size... 23.41.15 # yup 23.41.20 # my bad :) 23.41.36 # Bagder, I was just hoping to not have to go and remove all printfs 23.41.44 # i thought you meant file system block sizes 23.42.05 # stevenm: printf() sends output to stdout. Rockbox has no stdout. 23.42.22 # splash() should prove to be a fine replacement aye? 23.42.24 # without centering on 23.42.50 # Wooooah that is a LOT of errors. 23.42.55 # Hehe 23.43.02 # stevenm: just stub printf 23.43.12 # stevenm: welcome to rockbox development! 23.43.15 # hehe 23.43.45 # Rick, how would I make a stub for printf() when it has a variable number of parameters ? 23.44.04 # void printf(char *fmt, ...) {} 23.44.26 # instant stub ;) 23.44.37 # Ah, thanks 23.44.47 # cool 23.45.07 # what are you building anyway? 23.45.11 # now, the read function for files.. does it pre-allocate whatever it reads into, or not? 23.45.16 # MIDI codec 23.45.27 # ah 23.45.49 # read reads data into a buffer 23.45.56 # there is no malloc or alloc 23.45.56 # uh, I don't know. That question should be directed to other codec devs 23.46.10 # so I have to "malloc" something and then read into it 23.46.18 # there is no malloc 23.46.43 # preglow, you mentioned writing your own malloc.. What is the name of the pointer that points to the start of the mp3 buffer ? 23.46.44 # I borrowed parts of my alloc from HCl's rockbox alloc stuff 23.46.54 # stevenm: there's a function for it 23.46.58 # mp3_get_buffer() or something 23.47.00 # check PLUGIN_API 23.47.10 # Rick, is this the same for iriver as for archos? 23.47.13 # you just read the data you need to play the file into the mp3 buffer 23.47.15 # I believe so. 23.47.26 # only the archos has less ram 23.47.31 # it won't be usable on the archos anyway :P 23.47.35 # Hehe 23.47.43 # one second stevenm 23.47.46 # preglow, I see.. I need to write my own malloc.. basically return some offset into the mp3 buffer. All I want to know is where the mp3 buffer is 23.47.58 Quit lolo-laptop ("Client exiting") 23.48.23 # plugin_get_audio_buffer() 23.48.33 # stevenm: look at rockboy.c 23.48.40 # you don't need a malloc, the buffer is there, just use it 23.48.45 # it has HCl's alloc stuff 23.48.57 # Aah I get it 23.48.58 # preglow: yes, but it's nice to have a "managed" use of it ;) 23.48.59 # thank you 23.49.15 # i really don't see the use for a codec 23.49.23 # I just have mallocs everywhere, was lazy to search/replace 23.49.37 # There is also a simple malloc() implementation in xxx2wav.c 23.49.45 # :] 23.49.47 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe_@207-237-225-9.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 23.50.10 # where can mkboot be found? 23.50.17 # tools? 23.50.36 # tools 23.50.51 # when I pull down the CVS I don't get it.... 23.51.12 # i think it compiles when you compile an iriver target for the first time 23.51.22 # mkboot.c is in tools 23.51.31 # the bootloader however, is in bootloader/ 23.52.22 # * Bagder goes to sleep 23.52.54 # * Rick prods Bagder with a stick