--- Log for 11.04.105 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 19 days and 9 hours ago 00.24.18 # http://rasher.dyndns.org/~rasher/rockbox_lena.jpg .. yes, I am bored. 00.24.53 # :-) 00.25.18 # Hi, Bagder 00.25.22 # evening 00.25.36 # Question about the rockbox digest news-thingy you did once (that was you right?) 00.25.39 # why did it stop? 00.25.56 # due to my lack of time 00.26.04 # Thought so 00.26.06 # shame :-\ 00.26.48 # I'd totally do it if possible 00.27.13 # we could certainly arrange that 00.28.21 # That'd be great.. the "news" on the front page is a bit.. lacking 00.28.27 # yes 00.29.40 # you have any particular ideas or suggestions on how you'd like to do it? 00.30.27 # Not really.. any way it suits you really.. whatever's easiest 00.31.18 # I did the editing of it in a plain text file directly on the site 00.31.32 # and then I had a script that generated the html and the mail version of it 00.31.39 # oh, and the rss 00.32.26 # what is/was the rockbox digest news-thingy? 00.32.33 # news tidbits 00.32.37 # aight 00.32.37 # also available as rss 00.32.44 # see http://www.rockbox.org/digest/digest.html 00.33.06 # rasher: so you're going to do a giga update now then? :P 00.33.15 # 'fraid not 00.33.30 # more like "pretend the last 1,5 years didn't happen 00.33.33 # NEWS FLASH: ROCKBOX RUNS ON H1x= 00.33.35 # heh 00.34.05 # pretty quiet these days anyway 00.34.13 # mostly 00.34.28 # well, it comes and goes 00.34.33 # always has 00.34.51 # stuff like the bootloader tested with 1.65, trigger recording etc 00.35.39 # HCl: I have a question for you... if you are here... how can I change the LCD mode in rockboy (from skipping every 9th line, to skipping bottom 16, to skipping top 16, etc... 00.35.43 # rasher: ok, I'll start with adding the existing stuff to the www CVS and you can check it out 00.36.12 # elinenbe: hold button 00.36.31 # elinenbe: or more like hold switch 00.37.05 # Bagder: alright.. how are you suggesting this done? 00.37.24 # (this = me putting news in some file on your server) 00.37.30 # well, if you feel like it, you can edit the files and commit them 00.37.53 # as the server updates from cvs automatically 00.38.20 # ah, cvs access.. sounds like a reasonable way 00.40.20 # if you checkout/update the www module now, you'll find a 'digest' dir 00.40.44 # I just started a checkout :) 00.41.12 # there's a bunch of useless crap in the www cvs... :-) 00.41.20 # oh this'll take some time 00.41.37 # a great chance to excersize your bandwidth ;-) 00.41.54 # but of course, the server is only on 2mbit 00.42.12 # that's fine, my connection is 256kbit 00.42.56 # which is not at all fine 00.42.56 # devcon pictures :D 00.44.32 # preglow: thanks! 00.45.02 # preglow, Bagder: remember who managed to boot the iriver firmware from within rockbox? 00.47.04 # ripnetuk I believe, George Styles 00.53.52 # http://daniel.haxx.se/now.html 00.56.53 # another guy i haven't seen in a while 00.57.05 # i wonder what became of linuxstb 00.57.34 # Bagder: If you have the plugin deps on your list, could you pls have a look at the simulator deps as well? 00.57.54 # right, I'll add them to the list 00.58.14 # I tried it myself, but failed :( 01.00.53 # There are at least 2 problems: (1) the common simulator lib 'make' is called twice. One of these calls happens after linking the exe (!) (2) The dependencies for linking are wrong, so that certain changes (in the lib iirc) need 2 runs of 'make' to get them into the executable 01.01.13 # yeps, I've seen it too 01.02.28 # There's another suggestion that would save quite some time, especially on cygwin, but I don't know how hard that would be: 01.03.20 # For dirs that are not included in 'make' for a certain target (e.g. the codecs when building for archos), also don't call 'make clean' when cleaning 01.03.57 # yes, I have some ideas on more general build clenups 01.04.03 # after I checked how the linux kernel does it 01.04.27 # Ok :) 01.05.18 # My rockbox ToDo list gets longer and longer... :( 01.05.32 # such is life 01.07.19 # * rasher sighs 01.07.40 # apparently my computer won't boot with this dvd-drive connected and a dvd in the drive 01.07.56 # or it'll boot, but linux breaks 01.08.01 # as does windows 01.08.07 # not quite sure what's happening 01.08.13 # and I can't eject :( 01.08.20 # no eject button 01.08.24 # help! 01.08.45 # and its a laptop? 01.08.54 # No, regular 01.09.12 # the dvd drive comes from a dead dvd-player that happened to use an ide dvd-drive 01.09.19 # hence the lack of eject button 01.09.28 # then open it up and pull out the ide cable for the dvd to start with 01.09.50 # well I know it'll boot then 01.09.54 # I just connected it 01.09.58 # isn't there even a little whole for a forced eject? 01.10.03 # hole 01.10.15 # Don't think so.. well I could have a closer look 01.10.16 # like those old sun floppies 01.10.52 # Not sure why that'd be included in a dvd-player though 01.10.57 # true 01.11.04 # worst part is, it's eaten my Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy dvd! 01.11.58 # I've had it connected before.. used ide to eject it 01.12.23 # * amiconn goes to bed 01.12.26 # Night. 01.12.30 # night 01.12.37 Part amiconn 01.13.39 # okay, taking the drive apart was pretty easy 01.13.42 # disc salvaged 01.13.50 # :-) 01.14.10 # now to see if I can boot with it connected 01.14.45 # I'm also wondering if this extra connector at the back might be for ejecting 01.15.25 # it has power, ide, master/slave selector pins, audio, and two random pins 01.17.00 # still won't boot 01.17.03 # weird 01.19.12 # oh, it boots 01.19.20 # it just sits for a few minutes with no messages 01.19.36 # Bagder: I'm going to Tanzania this summer... what was your favorite place you went when you were there? 01.19.52 # Bwejuu beach looks amazing! 01.20.40 # it was 01.20.55 # not too crowded ;-) 01.21.33 # well, we loved Zanzibar in general and the safari trip was great 01.21.35 # yeah -- that looks nice. 01.21.40 # how long were you there for? 01.21.45 # a month 01.22.12 # my girlfriend is going to be doing dentistry in Songea in the south-west for a few weeks, and we want to make a trip of it. 01.22.17 # well, a vacation 01.22.39 # was everything pretty cheap once you were there? or were the prices expensive (for the touristy stuff)? 01.22.51 # everything is dead cheap, except safaris 01.23.11 # we spent like 40% of our budget on the one week safari 01.24.13 # a decent safari went for around 140-160 USD per day per person 01.24.40 # yeah -- well, I would have to be on a pretty tight budget. 01.24.58 # what was the price -- or about -- of your bungalow on Bwejuu Beach? 01.25.18 # I don't remember now, but it was not many dollars 01.25.31 # tourists have abandoned Tanzania 01.25.45 # so there are many many deserted hotels and beach places 01.25.54 # why is that? 01.26.02 # what has happened there? 01.26.02 # the US embassy bombing 01.26.10 # in Dar Es Salaam 01.26.15 # hahaha 01.26.50 # well, that doesn't bother me... that was 1998 anyway. 01.27.18 # perhaps people have returned more now, we were there in '02 01.27.20 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC") 01.27.34 # the chances of being killed by bombs when on vacation are infintesimally small 01.27.34 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 01.27.54 # rasher: you're booting 01.28.10 # Tanzania is a very calm country, by african standards I'd say extremely calm ;-) 01.28.15 # I am? 01.28.28 # I mean apart from now 01.28.30 # rasher: you might be :-) 01.28.33 # how did that trip compare to your other trips? 01.28.38 # I hit backspace and firefox thinks I mean "back" 01.28.51 # ahh, you're using the web interface, yes 01.29.21 # elinenbe: Tanzania was hard to get around in on a low budget sometimes, since much of the tourist places seem to be directed to jet set tourists 01.29.35 # so sometimes we couldn't do what we wanted 01.29.38 # I see. 01.29.49 # since we didn't wanna rent a whole boat or go far with taxis 01.29.49 # Yeah.. I rid myself of irc more or less 01.30.03 # rasher: a good plan 01.30.18 # elinenbe: but we'd never been in the real africa before, so it was a good experience 01.30.31 # except for this channel, which has an actual purpose 01.30.42 # not keeping an irc client around for it though 01.30.45 # but... 01.31.12 # Bagder: So the plan is.. I get cvs commit acces and start updating log.t and things will Just Work? 01.31.16 # or.. what? 01.31.24 # rasher: that's the plan 01.32.26 # Sounds good 01.32.32 # rasher: give me a preferred user namd and password and I'll set you up 01.32.36 # in private 01.34.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.35.16 # well, we will be on a serious budget, so I guess we'll see what we can do... 01.35.59 # elinenbe: if you're not too picky you can often live and eat extremely cheap 01.36.45 # "we'd like some food. What do you serve?" -"We have meat. And rice." 01.36.58 # (actual quote ;-) 01.37.18 # well, that works for me. 01.37.23 # mean, good, rice, good, all good 01.37.25 # meat <- 01.37.43 # i'm off to bed, later all 01.37.47 # and when we asked, they could in fact make eggs too ;-) 01.37.47 # Bagder: you know the default iriver firmware is VERY nice compared to the default archos firmware... 01.37.58 Quit preglow ("krams") 01.38.12 # I hardly remember the archos one 01.38.13 # it is going to be a challenge for rockbox to look nicer than the iriver firmware. 01.38.22 # well, that is because the archos one is shit. 01.38.50 # hello 01.39.14 # I don't care about "nicer than the iriver firmware" 01.39.18 # cleaner, though... 01.39.20 # rasher: you are now added and recognized as committer 01.39.30 # rasher: what did you add? 01.39.43 # add... what?! 01.39.48 # I think that we need to get the grayscale patch into the CVS 01.39.52 # for the iriver. 01.40.05 # elinenbe: rasher is about to attempt to update the digest section 01.40.20 Part kergoth ("Leaving") 01.40.31 # oh yeah, that is very dated. 01.40.31 # Oh.. like that.. I'm not going to touch rockbox 01.40.38 # http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~coates/video/Redefined%20-%20Nintendo%20(Video).mpg 01.40.39 # sick 01.41.46 # But I think there's going to be major reworking of the graphics layer 01.42.34 # there is going to be a major reworking of a lot of the layers... although it will take some time. 01.42.56 # which may be why the grayscale patch is on hold.. also because markun appears to have vanished 01.43.58 # is he the person who did the grayscale patch? 01.44.03 # yes 01.46.25 # Hrm.. first task.. add all old newsitems to the digest, I guess 01.46.36 # for completeness 01.47.53 Join Camilo [0] (~chatzilla@userca029.dsl.pipex.com) 01.48.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/#news 01.48.35 # the previous mailing list for it is dead since long 01.48.57 # I meant these: http://www.rockbox.org/history.html 01.49.20 # yes, my note here had no connection to that ;-) 01.49.41 # Alright :) 01.49.56 # there's a script in the digest dir that makes the digest.mail file 01.50.02 # suitable for posting to the list 01.50.06 # at least that's how I did it 01.51.04 # Sounds good 01.51.22 Join sockerteze [0] (~sockertez@pool-151-199-153-104.norf.east.verizon.net) 01.51.27 # quick 01.51.27 # so each NEWSDATE consists of a number of ITEMs? 01.51.37 # yes 01.51.47 # name an amimal that has a hard time getting water 01.51.51 # like a really really hard time 01.51.56 # wtf?! 01.52.03 # dont ask 01.52.07 # just tell 01.52.29 # ok i'll give you an example, like the camel, and he adapts by storing it in a hump 01.52.34 # now give me a more creative one 01.52.43 # * Bagder refuses 01.52.58 # sissy 01.53.07 # * rasher boggles 01.53.10 # yeah, that's me 01.54.13 # how sad 01.54.35 # but my nick is almost an animal ;-) 01.55.04 # i think bagders have it easy as far a water acquisiton goes, thank you very much 01.55.41 # and exactly how does this relate to mp3 player firmwares again? ;-) 01.56.01 # did you know that next ubuntu release is called 'breezy badger' - dedicated to you? ;) 01.56.21 # i know where you can get the firmwares if you tell me an animal 01.56.29 # hile: yes, that must be it! ;-) 01.56.47 # quick question does the grayscale with sound rockboy run slower than the b/w no sound one? 01.57.01 # theoretically, no 01.57.18 # hile: pity the misspelled my nick :-P 01.57.22 # they 01.57.23 # HCl: thanks. 01.58.07 # yeah 01.59.41 # HCl: I think you should try and get the dynarec 100%... 01.59.48 # I believe that is a noble challenge. 02.00.10 # * HCl tries to think of an excuse but can't really find a good one 02.00.20 # sleep(); 02.03.18 # * HCl loves that .mp3 02.03.21 # .mpg 02.03.21 # i mean 02.03.38 Quit Camilo ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Mozilla rv:1.8b2/20050404]") 02.09.04 # elinenbe: i'm not extremely motivated to look at it since its not really nice to debug... 02.21.03 # Hrm, quite hesitant to commit this log.t.. don't know if it'll be used to update automatically.. and don't know if it'll break because I can't make the scripts work 02.21.16 # so unless Bagder's still here.. 02.25.49 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.50.56 Quit sockerteze ("Chatzilla 0.9.67 [Firefox 1.0.1/20050225]") 02.51.30 Join Darkstar147 [0] (~43a18ffe@labb.contactor.se) 02.52.18 # hi all 02.59.43 Quit Darkstar147 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.00.26 # night 03.01.48 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 03.07.34 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 03.20.56 Join asdsd_ [0] (~asdsd@h-67-101-127-188.miatflad.dynamic.covad.net) 03.34.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.40.08 Quit TCK- ("Can you say "roflpwnt fgt" in IRC?") 03.46.25 Join charlieboy [0] (~18da9e41@labb.contactor.se) 03.46.37 Join aNoNYmouse [0] (~andyshing@t245.chello.upc.cz) 03.49.30 Quit aNoNYmouse (Client Quit) 03.56.22 Join DJ_Dooms_Day [0] (DJ_Dooms_D@dialup-200.10.220.203.acc08-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au) 04.13.08 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.15.21 Quit charlieboy ("CGI:IRC") 04.50.46 Quit asdsd_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 05.18.08 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@c-24-9-220-243.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 05.23.32 Quit cYmen (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.31.59 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 05.34.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.34.53 Join TCK [0] (TCK@81-86-96-231.dsl.pipex.com) 05.36.23 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.50.22 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-0814.bb.online.no) 07.13.19 Join Vicious [0] (~irc@adsl-158-21-110.asm.bellsouth.net) 07.14.26 # hello everyone, how do I turn off optical out by default when booting to rockbox on iriver? 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13.24.49 # always? 13.25.44 # yes 13.26.30 Join ripnetuk [0] (~george@82-70-100-230.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 13.27.53 # i have reason to believe that the stock rockbox firmware bumps up the probability of getting a track on shuffle if you have listened to soemthing in that directory recently... it may just be conincidence but several times lately I have listened to a track for the first time in AGES and then another track from the same album has come up on shuffle later that day... 13.28.00 # i mean stock iriver firmware :) 13.30.29 # had me confused there for a second... :-) 13.31.22 # :) 13.31.41 # hows the iRiver sound system coming along??? ive been real busy and have been skipping my daily review of the irc log 13.31.57 # * amiconn wonders what/where the question for this answer was... vicious: you can't. 13.32.00 # i am still working on cleaning up the internals 13.32.23 # 07.14.26 # hello everyone, how do I turn off optical out by default when booting to rockbox on iriver? 13.32.31 # i think 95% of coding is 'cleaning up' :) 13.33.11 # by which i mean that i seem to spend more time renaming variables to more sensible names, and making routines more generic than actual new dev 13.33.31 # i never make routines more generic if i don't have to 13.33.51 # dont you? not even when you are coding for the pure fun of it, rather thtn work? 13.34.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.34.29 # no need to spend time making a function generic if i don't even know if it will be used more than once 13.34.38 # i guess 13.35.06 # part of my general programming philosophy: KISS 13.35.24 # yes. good philosophy 13.35.31 # :) 13.35.32 # part of my tidying up is often simplification 13.35.52 # that i can buy 13.35.56 # when you can pull out 75% of the code and have it do the same thing (eg, removing a layer of abstraction)... very satifying 13.36.14 # abstractions are often evil omho 13.36.17 # imho 13.36.28 # only when they go too far for no reaosn 13.36.35 # exactly 13.36.46 # i wish my work place had far more abstraction :) 13.37.03 # i wich my work place had a lot less :-) 13.37.07 # :) 13.37.27 # it's a veritable design pattern orgy 13.37.38 Join R3nTiL [0] (~zorroz@217.30.249.90) 13.37.38 # I wish i understand what you're talking about... 13.37.38 # we are very informal @ my work 13.37.49 # t0mas: :-) 13.37.59 # maybe I should read it... 13.38.03 # *yawns* 13.38.17 # * LinusN gets some more coffee 13.38.22 # * t0mas too 13.38.26 # nice idea 13.38.54 # t0mas - i would point you at wikipedia, but it says "An abstraction is an idea, concept, or word which defines the phenomena which make up the concrete events or things which the abstraction refers to," which i dont think simplifies it :) 13.39.33 # idea - pocketpc port of rockbox to run on my cellphone - once we have software decoding framework up and running, it should be fairly straighforeward 13.39.44 # at least compared to porting to a new embedded devic 13.40.21 # windows media player on my phone is so daft - it draws a MASSIVE pause button, but doesnt display the id3 info for artist etc... how lame 13.41.22 # :-) 13.41.52 # hehe, i broke the power button on my trusty nokia 8310 this weekend 13.42.45 # oh no :( 13.42.46 # it turned out that it has the same type of buttons as the H1x0, so i just took a button from a broken H120 and replaced it 13.42.53 # hehe 13.42.55 # voila! 13.43.24 # the 8310 is inho the best non-toy phone ever made... mine went to the gf and she is still using it years later 13.43.30 # one of those few occasions where it's actually useful to have an mp3 player junkyard 13.43.35 # lol 13.44.00 # i had to use play-dough to fill in the gaps around the screen on my phone this weekend 13.44.09 # 8210 was also very good, but the lcd was badly connected 13.44.13 # yes 13.44.36 # although mine got stroppy when I dropped it down a toilet (its true) 13.44.42 # lol 13.44.49 # was on my birthday as well 13.44.58 # still, that was a good excuse to get a 8310 13.45.03 # hehe 13.46.59 # * ripnetuk remembers the days of a phone battery lasting a week on one charge 13.47.39 # ripnetuk: Mine still does (usually) 13.48.38 # my old one does... but I got tempted by smartphones. The 6600 lasts about a day, and my new Orange SPV lasts 2/3 days... but it DOES have a .net runtime on it :) 13.48.58 # and it CAN talk to my GPS and do sat nav, and it CAN play divX for commuting... 13.49.21 # I don't need smartphones or camera, colour display and other gimmicks 13.49.24 # and it has a standrard mini-usb plug for charging, so i can charge it anywhere I can get to a pc 13.50.03 # amicon - i think for me its worth it 13.50.30 # Yes - that's why there is the choice. 13.50.48 # the only time it really bothers me is at festivals where there is no power 13.50.55 # and thats like once or twice a year 13.50.57 # I simply want a light and small phone 13.51.43 Quit R3nTiL () 14.08.40 # anyway, nice to talk to you guys again... catch up soon... bye 14.08.43 Quit ripnetuk ("Leaving") 14.19.31 Quit lostlogic__ (Client Quit) 14.19.56 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe_@65.115.46.225) 14.21.09 Part LinusN 14.27.54 Join rasher [0] (~3e4f4094@labb.contactor.se) 14.28.59 # Bagder? 14.31.01 # aw dammit, missed ripnetuk 14.35.31 # darn. 14.35.34 # i'm bored 14.36.12 # HCl: want a challenge? 14.36.13 # :) 14.36.18 # eh. 14.36.21 # not really o.o; 14.36.27 # but ask anyways. 14.36.59 # * ashridah is also bored 14.38.22 # 100% speed rockboy! :-) 14.38.35 # well, actually, I think you should work on whatever makes you happy 14.40.15 # :p 14.40.16 # thanks 14.40.22 # i think i'm just gonna nap a bit and read my book 15.02.50 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 15.08.34 Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`away (~NNSCRIPT@host81-157-72-191.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) 15.13.51 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 15.14.19 Quit DMJC ("Leaving") 15.26.23 # anyone know of a decent audio editor for linux? 15.26.32 # 'cuz i'm starting to consider writing one myself 15.32.00 # like audacy ? 15.32.21 # except not horrible? 15.32.36 # :) 15.32.54 # actually, I used it a few weeks ago 15.33.00 # it wasn't as stupid as I remembered 15.33.31 # audacity is shit and crap 15.33.41 # and to top it off, it's gtk 1 based 15.33.44 # so it's looks like shit as well 15.34.00 # Plus the horrible control buttons 15.34.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.35.53 # what i'd like, really, is a cool edit clone 15.35.56 # that would rock 15.37.06 # Isn't the main thing missing like 80% of the tools/filters/etc 15.37.07 # yes, cool edit is simple & powerfull 15.37.42 # and the spectrum analyzer in audacity is horrible 15.38.48 # * rasher makes a few mental notes 15.39.20 # Bagder: I have a few questions about news and songdb.pl 15.39.34 # There, let's see if he responds while I'm still here 15.41.57 # preglow > and Sweep dont please u ? 15.44.29 # http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/index.html 16.01.10 # i never tried it 16.01.14 # it sure is ugly, though 16.01.19 # i wish everyone started using gtk2 16.02.03 # another is rezound but i never try it... 16.14.12 Join DangerousDan [0] (~Miranda@newtpulsifer.campus.luth.se) 16.15.58 Quit ashridah (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.02 Quit preglow (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.33.02 NSplit orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.33.28 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-123-110.VIC.netspace.net.au) 16.33.34 NHeal orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.33.34 NJoin preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 16.33.38 Quit ashridah (Client Quit) 16.36.20 Nick Sucka`away is now known as Sucka (~NNSCRIPT@host81-157-72-191.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) 16.41.48 Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`away (~NNSCRIPT@host81-157-72-191.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) 16.46.40 Quit bill2or3 ("Leaving") 16.48.18 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@c-24-9-220-243.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 16.48.28 Part mecraw 16.51.52 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa243.4.tellas.gr) 16.56.42 # fuck... 16.56.47 # does windows have an undelete function? 16.57.37 # not really.. it may still be on the drive though 16.57.46 # you need to stop using the drive 16.57.52 # fast 16.57.54 # yeah... 16.57.58 # unmount it ;) 16.58.02 # but windows can't do that 16.58.25 # and then hope to find a disk utility program that has undelete 16.58.32 # yeah, have one 16.58.34 # but can't lock the disk 16.58.47 # is there a way to see wich program's have files open on that disk? 16.58.49 # I don't know of any.. used Norton DiskMagicWhatever a bunch of years ago 16.59.00 # No idea 17.01.45 Join XShocK [0] (~cddef002@labb.contactor.se) 17.02.00 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@c-24-9-220-243.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 17.03.15 # * t0mas is going to reboot in safemode.... 17.03.16 # brb 17.03.25 Quit t0mas ("brb -- I hope...") 17.10.05 # i think sysinternals has a tool that lets you see what's using the disk 17.10.12 Part mecraw_ 17.14.02 # FileMon 17.14.25 # is that tool 17.16.32 # I wish windows would be more like linux 17.18.51 # you can unmount partitions in windows using paragon partition manager 17.19.08 # plus, you get to mount ext3 partitions R/W 17.19.41 # but i doubt that this would help:P 17.21.43 Join t0mas [0] (~Tomas@ip503c08d1.speed.planet.nl) 17.21.47 Join Tang [0] (~chatzilla@ARennes-252-1-31-47.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.21.55 # eHi Rockbox and others 17.22.21 # hola 17.22.35 # hi 17.22.40 # hi 17.25.07 # hi T0mas 17.25.19 # sorry for the fornoobs section 17.25.24 # still not using tab right? :P 17.25.24 # i wasn't here this we 17.25.33 # lol no 17.25.44 # i'll do 17.25.49 # about 4noobs 17.25.53 # Just joking ;) 17.25.56 # i made an edit 17.25.59 # (lol oki) 17.26.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverPortStatusForNoobs#iRiverPortStatusForNoobs 17.26.35 # Corrections may be needed thought 17.30.12 # Tang? are you editing the fornoobs section? 17.30.22 # hum indeed 17.30.27 # ok 17.30.29 # I'll wait 17.31.08 # hum no not presentmly thjought 17.31.33 # i have a suggestion for the fornoobs page 17.31.48 # go on coco 17.31.54 # it's wiki 17.31.57 # open to all 17.32.37 # the "noob" user isn't really concered with who done it or what a hex file is... so i think (theres a seperate credits page, i think) names like linus should be removed, and technical terms like hex file should be avoided :) 17.32.46 #