--- Log for 21.04.105 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 15 hours ago 00.00.07 # However, the drawmode stuff in the grayscale lib needs rework too 00.00.32 # Somebody lend me his time machine ;-) 00.00.46 # :P 00.00.50 # function pointer arrays? o.o;; 00.01.03 # Not really difficult 00.01.12 # yea, i guess not.. 00.01.16 # The most difficult thing was to get the declaration right 00.01.22 # i'm mostly focusing on getting it to work for now. 00.01.29 # i used function pointer arrays in my n64 emu.. 00.01.34 # understandable. 00.07.08 # done everything up to drawrect 00.09.47 # bitmap's *data = twodimensional array with native pixel data with width x and height y? 00.10.01 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 00.10.31 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.10.43 # and whats stride..? 00.11.49 # *data = twodimensional array with pixel data with _byte_ width 'stride' and any height 00.12.12 # data format is native for xxx_bitmap() 00.12.20 # * HCl scratches his head 00.12.32 # It's not too difficult 00.12.32 # so every x stride bytes, you'd be on the second line? 00.12.55 # x and y define where on the screen you start drawing 00.13.06 # oh right. 00.13.11 # okay. 00.13.14 # width and height define the pixel width of the (partial) bitmap you want to draw 00.13.15 # wait. 00.13.18 # so once this redesign gets done, anything drawing to lcd needs to be fixed? 00.13.21 # how would it know that it was at the end of the bitmap? 00.13.32 # oh 00.13.35 # >.< 00.13.40 # 'stride' is there to allow for drawing partial bitmaps 00.13.45 # sorry, i meant every width stride bytes, you'd be on the second line? 00.14.02 # maybe i should just leave this to markun o.o; 00.14.16 # Yes, every line of the source bitmap consists of 'stride' bytes 00.14.49 # which doesn't have to be the same of width, and if width is bigger than stride, its irrellevant ? or would it shorten width 00.15.17 # width > stride is simply forbidden 00.15.30 # why? 00.15.43 # I wouldn't care to check that, as it doesn't cause much trouble 00.15.50 # i don't see much problem with it, aside from it would be an odd bitmap format 00.16.05 # The bitmap would look a bit odd, that's all 00.16.11 # mhm.. 00.16.12 # okay.. 00.16.28 # It could even make for some funny effects 00.16.30 # so it needs to check every pixel whether its the background color or not... 00.16.36 # isn't that really expensive? 00.17.00 # Yes, and that's the optimisation I'm talking about all the time 00.17.17 # i'm curious to how you would want to optimize that... 00.18.15 # any suggestions....? 00.18.27 # I have some ideas 00.18.50 # Essentially for b&w->4-grey mapping, you need to 'expand' bits 00.19.09 # shall i just implement them with testing every pixel and setting accordingly for now? 00.19.12 # i.e. make 2 bits out of one 00.20.36 # http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/20/1810206&tid=214&tid=186 WOO! 00.20.39 # That can be done reasonably fast with lookup tables. Either for one whole byte (mapping to 2 bytes, and needing a 512 bytes table), or separately per nibble 00.21.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.21.24 Quit cYmen ("zZz") 00.21.35 # I think pixel-wise testing should be sufficient for a first version. Just check that it isn't dead-slow 00.21.41 # mhm 00.21.51 # rasher: old news... it's been on the BBC site for nearly a year. 00.22.07 # amiconn: what should happen with non-monochrome bitmaps? 00.22.39 # Non-monochrome could be in 2 formats for a greycsale core 00.22.52 # Native format is trivial, just map, possibly with shift 00.23.09 # 1 byte/pixel needs some arithmetics 00.23.16 Join XShocK [0] (~XShocK@pcp09492659pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) 00.23.37 # The 1 byte/pixel function isn't needed in the core though 00.23.38 # map? 00.23.42 # yea, i saw 00.24.09 # Yes, similar to how the current b&w lcd_bitmap() implementation works 00.24.32 # i don't know how it works now, just putting it on the screen as if it was a blit? 00.24.54 # That would only allow to put the bitmap on y positions divisable by 8 00.25.03 # yea, ok. 00.25.05 # but something like that. 00.25.12 # (But actually that shortcut is used when this condition is met) 00.25.17 # uhuh. 00.25.38 # For other y positions, you simply need to shift the data 00.25.54 # hrm... 00.26.07 Quit ashridah ("Leaving") 00.26.11 # shift? 00.26.16 # Did I tell you about bit wizardry? ;-) 00.26.20 # nope. 00.26.24 # i'm thinking i should lay off this, heh. 00.26.34 # flatmates yelling around over tv isn't helping 00.27.57 # For b&w, you need to bitshift the data before mapping by y % 8 ( or y & 7, which is the same) 00.28.28 # i don't understand why you would bitshift, but ok, i suck at math. 00.28.29 # ehntoo: well it's not been "coming in 2 weeks" for a year :) 00.28.56 # rasher: I suppose so. 00.29.00 # HCl: You need to bitshift because one byte corresponds to 8 pixels vertically 00.29.19 # If you want to have the bitmap one pixel down, you need to shift by one bit etc 00.29.22 # yes, i know that. i'm confused to why you would need to move them at all. 00.29.31 # can't you just set the first so many lines 00.29.40 # till its aligned with a byte 00.29.42 # then blit 00.29.54 # No, you can't 00.29.59 # why not? 00.30.39 # if unaligned, set up to 7 pixel rows by hand, then its aligned and you can blit the rest.. 00.31.21 # Just draw it on a paper, then you'll see what I mean. If you e.g. start at line 1 (counting from 0), and you set the 7 rows by hand, you have one pixel of the top row of the source bitmap 'left over' 00.31.45 # i'm not following what you mean at all x.x; 00.31.54 # If you just go for blitting the following rows, this pixel row would be missing from the image 00.32.18 # * HCl sighs. 00.32.20 # i'll just give up then. 00.32.26 # i don't understand what you're saying whatsoever 00.32.38 # HCl, try it your way. If it doesn't work in a test, do it his way. 00.32.40 # If it's not aligned at the top, the how can it become aligned further down? 00.32.47 # The answer is - it can't 00.32.54 # amiconn: by doing the first so many lines, till its aligned. 00.33.01 # How? 00.33.19 # you just do up to 7 lines by hand in a loop, then blit whats left of the image o.o.. 00.33.38 Nick ehntoo is now known as ehntoo|afk (~noclue2@24.177.161.77.up.mi.chartermi.net) 00.33.38 # That doesn't work for sure 00.33.44 # why not? 00.34.07 # Well, this is very difficult to show with text only... 00.34.21 # i think i'll just try what i'm thinking... 00.34.28 # and give up if i fail o.o 00.34.40 # didn't I just say that? 00.34.44 # yup 00.34.46 # ah. 00.34.49 # just checking. 00.34.51 # :P 00.35.05 # first i'll start with if aligned, blit. 00.37.01 # yay. 00.37.19 # * HCl 's password cracking is going well :3 00.41.09 # * HCl sighs. 00.41.15 Part LinusN 00.41.30 # its hard to concentrate when flatmates are watching "the pizza hut" music video >.< 00.48.18 # i wrote a simple lcd_bitmap().. i don't see why it wouldn't work, but i have no way to test it at the moment 00.49.08 # * HCl is gonna go sleep or something... 00.54.02 # maybe i'm confused to what stride's supposed to be.. 00.58.01 # * HCl prods amiconn to look at privmsg 00.58.04 # * HCl crawls into bed 01.20.41 Quit thegeek (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.20.58 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-1991.bb.online.no) 01.21.43 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 01.40.04 Quit preglow ("b") 01.44.50 # * rasher turns upside down 01.44.51 Quit [zmaj] ("Serverwechsel") 01.53.43 Join [zmaj] [0] (zmaj@liebt.polnische.putzen.am.telefon.und.das.ist.auch.gut-s0.de) 02.04.03 Join tedboer [0] (~maarten@80-28-188-105.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net) 02.07.00 Part tedboer ("Leaving") 02.11.31 Join stevenm [0] (~steve@181-208.mam.umd.edu) 02.11.39 # hello people 02.11.42 # well that was a lot of fun 02.11.55 # anything new w/ rockbox ? 02.13.06 Quit gromit` (Remote closed the connection) 02.16.44 # evening 02.17.57 # hi 02.18.29 # man it is hot outside 02.19.47 Quit stevenm ("Leaving") 02.21.00 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 02.21.08 Join Seed [0] (ben@l192-114-41-133.broadband.actcom.net.il) 02.21.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.28.04 Join _ferenczy [0] (ferenczy@a4brn-175.dialup.vol.cz) 02.28.39 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-171-89.tpgi.com.au) 02.30.53 Quit Aison ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.72 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.45.08 Join stevenm [0] (~steve@181-208.mam.umd.edu) 02.45.23 # Hey guys, what is faster? An if statement or a multiply? 02.45.55 # I am not sure what to do - I have code, if(variable == constant) then x = x + y 02.46.19 # would it be better changing the variable to 0 and then being x = x + y*variable; ? 02.47.49 # * rasher has absolutely no idea 02.53.45 Join Sirwa2 [0] (~ikke@f246074.upc-f.chello.nl) 02.53.52 # HI 02.54.00 # anyone awake? 02.54.20 # yea 02.54.31 Quit _ferenczy () 02.55.42 # im have jukebox recorder, but i need to navigate to speak menu's bling.. 02.55.52 # display is broken 02.55.57 # blind i mean 02.56.32 # i just instaled new 80 hd..blind aswell :D it worked 2e time around :D :D 02.57.59 # you know what menu vocie is under? 02.58.10 # uhh 02.58.30 # General Settings 02.58.32 # at the bottom 02.59.18 # hmm must have old version in flash rom.. 03.00.38 # tnx , that helps 03.00.46 # no problem 03.01.22 Quit Sirwa2 () 03.01.47 Quit xen` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.16.03 Nick ehntoo|afk is now known as ehntoo (~noclue2@24.177.161.77.up.mi.chartermi.net) 03.16.57 # HCl, still here? 03.17.35 Join webmind [0] (~webmind@217-195-236-172.dsl.esined.net) 04.00.42 Part stevenm ("Friggin homework.") 04.05.47 Join QT_ [0] (as@area51.users.madwifi) 04.06.16 # anybody here know graphviz? 04.08.57 Quit QT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.21.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.55.18 Quit XShocK (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC") 05.04.50 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 05.22.55 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.25.33 Join Byron [0] (byron@63.77.203.136) 05.25.58 # is there a hold button on the archos fm recorder 20? 05.26.16 # I keep knocking the stop recording button during recordings 05.26.25 Join Rick [0] (rick@pool-71-108-2-79.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.55.34 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 05.55.34 Quit Byron (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.55.41 Join Seed [0] (ben@l192-114-41-133.broadband.actcom.net.il) 06.00.55 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.02.52 Join noclue2 [0] (~noclue2@24.177.161.77.up.mi.chartermi.net) 06.20.47 Quit ehntoo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.21.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.02.15 Part DMJC ("Leaving") 07.34.34 Join _n2_ [0] (noclue2@24.177.161.77.up.mi.chartermi.net) 07.46.27 Nick _n2_ is now known as ehntoo (noclue2@24.177.161.77.up.mi.chartermi.net) 07.51.17 Quit noclue2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.54.54 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 08.21.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.23.11 # morning 08.23.54 # moo 08.32.17 Quit Stryke` ("Friends don't let friends listen to Anti-Flag") 08.35.30 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-31.VIC.netspace.net.au) 08.44.04 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.02.51 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.15.40 Join Harpy [0] (8S5TOEypFd@dsl-hkigw7wbb.dial.inet.fi) 09.16.27 Nick Lynx_awy is now known as Lynx_ (HydraIRC@134.95.189.59) 09.18.00 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l07v-7-57.d1.club-internet.fr) 09.18.38 # hi folks ! 09.40.00 Join B4gder [0] (~50d8ae51@labb.contactor.se) 09.40.36 # buenas dias! 09.40.48 # hi 09.41.05 # s/hi/hola ;) 09.45.51 # * B4gder heard 15 seconds of mp3 yday... 09.45.58 # :-) 09.46.33 # \o/ 09.46.35 # Hooray! 09.46.53 # ... and there was much rejoicing 09.46.53 # :) 09.52.14 # no, and then it crashed ;-) 09.53.26 # heh. lockup-and-needing-reset crash, or crash-with-illinst-or-something crash? 09.56.37 # the lockup style 09.57.00 # most probably when wrapping the pcm buffer 09.57.11 # which incidently is 15 seconds big 10.05.23 Join austriancoder [0] (~5078751e@labb.contactor.se) 10.05.28 # morning 10.06.19 # * HCl yawns 10.07.50 # i think i have the i2c read stuff 10.07.52 # * HCl yawns again 10.07.54 # cool. 10.08.00 # * HCl keeps his alarmclock running 10.08.15 # * HCl has to go do AI with markun 10.08.28 # ah markun 10.08.37 # grayscale ;) 10.09.09 # i might prod him a bit about it, if rockbox comes up as topic 10.09.09 # anyways 10.09.17 # * HCl goes to get dressed and stuff 10.13.07 # B4gder: hi 10.14.42 # howdy ho, any further progress since? 10.14.59 # well, i slept on the pcm watermark issue 10.15.24 # the libmad api still hurts my head... 10.15.27 # whats the pcm watermark issue? 10.15.40 # we have many issues ;-) 10.15.46 # and i came to the conclusion that we were on the wrong track with using the end-of-track callback for advancing pcmbuf_read 10.16.03 # the watermark callback is sufficient 10.16.14 # ok 10.16.18 # we don't need to advance pcmbuf_read until the watermark is reached 10.16.26 # true 10.16.32 # since we won't fill anything anyway 10.16.34 # since we won't start filling it before the watermark is reached anyway 10.16.37 # right 10.17.27 Join Zagor [0] (foobar@h14n2fls31o265.telia.com) 10.20.51 # morning Z 10.21.11 # howdy 10.21.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.22.34 # LinusN: so the amount of time the watermark covers is enough to load a new codec and a new file, in the unlikely but possible point that the amount below the watermark includes a change of file? 10.22.44 # * Zagor is working on his kitchen again today 10.23.21 # ashridah: there are two buffers and two watermarks 10.24.01 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9522C05.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.24.39 # the pcm buffer watermark should cover the worst-case thread scheduling time before the audio thread can decode a new chunk of pcm audio 10.25.01 Nick QT_ is now known as QT (as@area51.users.madwifi) 10.26.40 Join gromit` [0] (~gromit`@82.234.244.69) 10.27.28 # the file loading business is another matter 10.34.03 # and so far, my code doesn't handle multicodec, and has the mp3 codec statically linked 10.34.37 # but there _is_ a struct rbx_codec! :-) 10.34.43 # :-) 10.36.13 Join sox [0] (~sox@c-a138e255.733-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 10.36.46 # hoy can i ask a slightly off topic unix question to all wizards? 10.36.56 # shoot 10.37.21 # how do I track differences between two file dirs? 10.37.35 # i want to know if i have files in one file structure that i dont have in the other 10.38.43 # ditt two ls ouputs 10.38.47 # diff 10.39.09 Join MoosCamaro [0] (MoosCamaro@m214.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 10.39.21 # good morning all 10.39.30 # morning 10.39.35 # yeah, something like that, but i was hoping you could supply me with the whole string of commands since im such a loser 10.40.04 # with bash I believe you can do "diff (ls dir1) (ls dir2)" 10.40.14 # it's that simple 10.40.19 # wow 10.40.42 # wouldn't it be find dir1 find dir2? 10.40.59 # find would work too 10.41.08 # if you want it recursively 10.41.33 # could you be more specific? 10.43.11 Join DMJC [0] (~James@220-245-171-89.tpgi.com.au) 10.43.34 # about what? 10.43.44 # the find command, parameters etc 10.43.55 # didn't the ls version work? 10.44.10 # it prolly won't give you exactly what you 10.44.13 # want 10.44.49 # "diff -u (find dir1) (find dir2) 10.45.05 # excellent, ill try that 10.45.06 # thanks 10.45.10 # and you'll get - or on lines where files have been added or removed 10.45.16 # can somebody tell me, what adress i need for the tuners i2c? 10.45.18 # crap 10.45.26 # cant type "plus" in this web client 10.45.40 # MADR = 0x6c; is for audio chip 10.47.04 # i don't know 10.47.21 # where could i find this info? 10.47.35 # the datasheet? 10.47.54 # good idea ... 10.48.49 # looks like 0xc0 10.50.39 # will try it 10.53.00 # need to go to bus now.. see you later 10.53.41 # firmware/tuner_philips.c is what you need 10.53.53 # and it uses 0xc0 10.54.06 # fine... 10.54.20 # hi all 10.54.25 Quit austriancoder ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 10.54.47 # morning amiconn 10.56.17 # have you got receive your h140? 10.57.54 # Zagor: Did you do some tests with my latest fat.patch? I updated it again, around 19:00 yday, and I don't know whether you caught that 10.58.00 # anyone know nmap really well? 10.58.15 # MoosCamaro: Still nothing :( 10.58.55 # amiconn: unfortunately i haven't tested anything yet. a good idea is probably to try and write a test case to catch each new bug we find. 10.59.17 # i.e. when we find a bug, write a test case that exposes it 11.03.24 # Hmm. I'm not that good at writing test cases... but I could try 11.03.45 # Some of the issues arise only with very large directories 11.04.12 # (large also meaning many deleted entries) 11.04.29 Join webguest36 [0] (~c31ce021@labb.contactor.se) 11.04.53 # However, I have a question whether it would be desirable to implement an improvement that is not officially documented 11.05.23 # There is that FATDIR_NTRES field, which is documented as 'don't touch' by microsoft 11.06.42 # I found out about 2 bits of this field 11.07.56 # what is the purpose of this field? 11.09.31 # b4gder: diff -u worked pretty good, but i want to compare the files not dependant to where they are in the structure, you think that's possible with some magic? 11.10.03 # Windows NT variants are able to preserve the case of filenames like FILE.TXT, FILE.txt, file.TXT and file.txt, using shortnames only 11.10.30 # sox: you mean without bothering about in what particular dir they are? 11.10.38 # exactly 11.10.39 # All these would be displayed as FILE.TXT in rockbox and Windos 9x; didn't test Linux 11.11.20 # Basically, there are 2 bits in FATDIR_NTRES that tell whether filename/ extension are lowercase 11.11.52 # We could support this when reading filenames; I wouldn't do this for writing 11.12.05 # sox: let each find do "find . -printf '%f\n' | sort' 11.12.20 # ...as we always write longnames anyway, and because of the 'don't touch' 11.12.22 # but with dir1 and dir2 instead of . 11.12.49 # amiconn: I agree 11.14.39 # I'd say this could be supported. Currently some dirs/files look a bit ugly in rockbox (e.g. AJBREC.AJZ), because they are shortnames in WinXP. WinXP lists that as ajbrec.ajz 11.15.13 # yeah. i'm in favor of supporting this for reading. 11.15.25 # ok 11.15.49 # I'll add that, just need to find a way to do this with too much additional code 11.15.49 Quit webguest36 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.17.30 # b4gder: im getting syntax errors when using (find ...), tried ' and " too without luck, is there any other character i could try? 11.19.11 # so run the two find lines separately and genarate two files you diff 11.19.57 Quit ferenczy (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.20.18 # b4gder: that's a typical thing i would think of myself, thanks! 11.48.23 # thanks b4gder, i got it figured out at last 11.48.26 # see ya 11.48.57 Quit sox ("Snak 4.13 IRC For Mac - http://www.snak.com") 11.55.51 # * t0mas yawns... 11.55.54 # boring day of work :X 11.56.18 # and now I have a break... but LinusN is busy :( 12.02.08 Quit bobTHC ("Smoke Weed Every Day !") 12.15.31 Join preglow [0] (thomj@s183a.studby.ntnu.no) 12.19.10 # hi preglow 12.20.38 # hi 12.21.22 # oops. just installed rockbox into my home directory instead of my player. thank god you lot put everything in /.rockbox. :) 12.21.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.23.22 # lol 12.23.47 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 12.25.02 Join Shagnar [0] (~tester@p54A0F789.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.25.26 Join Patr3ck [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECF445.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.25.46 # LinusN: gratulations to the 5s-mp3-playback :] 12.27.38 # * t0mas is away again... 12.27.44 # end of lunch break :) 12.37.09 # morning, all 12.37.46 # * ehntoo has got to run... stupid schooling systems 12.37.53 Quit ehntoo ("Leaving") 12.39.14 Join silencer [0] (~silencer@adsl.via.ecp.fr) 12.40.18 Quit silencer_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.43.44 Join silencer_ [0] (~silencer@zen.via.ecp.fr) 12.56.35 Quit silencer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.57.23 Quit _Lucretia_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.02.33 # yeah my h1x0remote came. (ordered from brooklyn to germany) 13.02.48 # :p 13.02.49 # nice 13.02.56 # what color is it? 13.03.49 # black one 13.04.20 # k 13.05.00 # and it works :D (just tested). got it for 53€ (with porto), the lowest auction from germany was at 70€ 13.05.19 # wow... 13.05.26 # high prices 13.05.31 # what happened to your original remote? 13.06.34 # stolen... 13.07.09 # why would someone steal an iriver remote o.o.. 13.08.12 # was on my trousers during the physical education @ school. fortunately my H was in my bag, and they didn't look at it 13.08.32 # i think the thieves thought it 'd be a player 13.08.49 # HCl: probably because they thought it was an entire player. 13.08.57 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (~munkee@abyss2.demon.co.uk) 13.09.04 # i think so, too 13.09.34 # LinusN: libmad is fast enough to withstand being used as a proper codec now i hope? 13.09.38 # Shagnar, how much did you pay for it? 13.09.38 # lots of people seem ultra surprised when i tell them my player holds 40GB :). "in that tiny thing?!" uh. no. in this block.... "oh. an ipod is smaller than that. ick". then they find out mine now plays gb roms :) 13.09.49 # preglow: i hope so 13.10.21 # tvelocity[away]: Shagnar and it works :D (just tested). got it for 53€ (with porto), the lowest auction from germany was at 70€ 13.10.37 # oh i see 13.10.42 # hm. those symbols might not have printed properly here, so i have no idea if they printed properly for you lot :) 13.10.47 # 53 euros? sounds expensive 13.10.51 # yes 13.10.56 # i'd love to work some more on it, but my conscience doesn't allow it, heh 13.11.03 # ashridah: lol. 13.11.08 # for 53 euro it's worth stealing the remotes ;) 13.11.08 # very expensive, since the whole player is ~ 400 euros 13.11.35 # darnit. 13.11.45 # * HCl had things to add to the todolist, but forgot some.. 13.11.47 # i ordered another one from a shop (30euros). didn't get it for over 1 month now, if i get it i'll sell it on ebay 13.11.47 # well, i don't want to dissapoint you, but i don't use AT ALL my remote, and i could have sent it to you for free, if I knew:P 13.12.03 # was it anyone here who tried to repair a h1x0 who had been damaged with the wrong charger? 13.12.40 # i've got one of those coming in in a while, and will probably try to repair it 13.13.30 # LinusN: does rockbox on iriver keep track of passed time in total, or just the current session, and if just the current session, can we make it store the total time passed? 13.14.27 # preglow: Linus has one too, afaik 13.14.55 # hcl: there is an internal clock that always counts 13.15.11 # B4gder: but is it session or total ? 13.15.16 # for delays time-outs 13.15.19 # and 13.15.27 # it starts on boot and counts forever 13.15.32 # i'm wanting to store the total time passed while the player is on 13.15.41 # tick counter 13.15.49 # in order to enable "last time played" stuff for the runtime db 13.16.13 # preglow: i have bad news 13.16.38 # :/ 13.16.51 # * HCl prods amiconn 13.16.55 # HCl: we'll implement such a timer if it is needed 13.17.10 # preglow: it is likely that the unit is deep fried 13.17.49 # lord knows why they didn't add overvoltage or overcurrent protection to it, given the common size of the jack 13.17.51 # LinusN: what parts are affected? 'all' doesn't sound very likely 13.17.59 # LinusN: will it have killed the drive too? 13.18.15 # plugging in a charger with too high voltage will fry the capacitors that regulate the voltage to the cpu 13.18.28 # and the cpu will get too high voltage 13.18.35 # ouchouch 13.18.36 # the drive will be ok 13.18.38 # LinusN: okay, its going to get needed sooner or later for the runtime db. 13.18.57 # so there's no voltage regulator or anything in the unit? 13.19.04 # that's what i have seen on my fried player at least 13.19.14 # there is a voltage regulator 13.19.29 # the output voltage is controlled by said capacitors 13.19.30 # then why didn't that regulate? :P 13.19.50 # oh well 13.19.54 # i can still use it for spare parts 13.20.15 # preglow: heh. mod your own player and then mod rockbox to allow two hard drives >:) 13.20.17 # i used mine to repair my nokia phone 13.20.25 # heh, so i saw 13.20.26 # ohyea. 13.20.47 # i've managed to damage part of the casing around the side screw holes on mine 13.20.53 # i'd like to have that replaced 13.22.15 # how'd you do that anyways... 13.22.37 # the side panels are separate pieces 13.23.06 # or do you mean how i managed to damage it? :P 13.23.19 # the latter 13.23.19 # :P 13.23.47 # well, by taking it apart one too many times, combined with obviously not having things put properly together when screwing it together 13.24.04 Join cYmen [0] (~cymen@nat-ph3-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 13.24.06 # there's been a lot of tension around those screws, so something obviously didn't sit right 13.24.08 # okay 13.26.18 # preglow: i can just rewrite dumbout into plugin form and not worry over floats for now, right? 13.26.35 # no 13.26.42 # dumb uses libm routines we don't have 13.26.56 # so that means..? 13.27.02 # it wont compile 13.27.05 # link, at that 13.27.28 # lemme have a quick peek 13.27.37 # which routines don't we have.. 13.27.40 # floor, pow and log? 13.28.34 # you need exp, pow 13.28.44 # mk 13.29.02 # there probably are soft float version hanging around somewhere 13.29.28 # mhm. 13.29.46 # added it to the todolist 13.29.57 # * HCl prods amiconn 13.30.05 # wake up :x 13.30.12 # the pow we can use a lookup table for 13.30.21 # with interpolation, probably, ear is pretty sensitive to pitch 13.30.33 # ghehe 13.30.40 # * t0mas loves vpn and wifi :D 13.30.47 # (and hates waiting...) 13.31.19 # How hard is it to setup a small vpn? 13.31.33 # really easy... 13.31.37 # (on linux) 13.32.00 # and on windows workstation's it just clicking a wizzard... but you have a max on 1 connection... 13.32.01 # Our environment is mainly windows boxes 13.32.15 # yeah, I'm working on a windows laptop right now... 13.32.30 # clients aren't a problem... you just need a linux server... or a windows 2000/2003 server edition 13.32.39 # filter coef calculation might also prove to be tricky 13.32.58 # OpenVPN looks pretty nice 13.33.10 # pptpd is easyer 13.33.13 # well, i don't want to dissapoint you, but i don't use AT ALL my remote, and i could have sent it to you for free, if I knew:P <= i would have asked you if i knew that you don't use it ;-) 13.33.22 # and windows can connect to it without extra software 13.33.24 # The setup will probably be a Linux server and a bunch of Windows clients 13.33.40 # then install pptpd... that's really easy 13.34.06 # t0mas: How about windows clients? 13.34.22 # just follow the add connection wizzard... 13.34.32 # they can connect to pptp servers... 13.35.01 # * B4gder prefers a plain ssh 13.36.14 # arg... 13.36.26 # have to continue working :X 13.36.35 # see you in a few hours :) 13.36.42 # why is the firmware flash plugin built for iriver.. 13.38.29 # preglow: are there some compile options to stop gcc emulating fp math? 13.42.41 # try -mnosoft-float 13.43.54 # k 13.48.48 Quit Zagor (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.49.24 Join Zagor [0] (foobar@h63n1fls31o265.telia.com) 13.49.38 # invalid option 13.49.40 # :/ 13.49.55 # then i don't know 13.51.07 # k :/ 13.52.54 # -mno-soft-float 13.53.04 # tried that 13.53.05 # didn't work either 13.53.09 # ok 13.55.13 # i mostly just want gcc to produce an error on floats so i can easily detect where to fix what.. 14.07.32 # #undef float 14.07.35 # ? 14.07.39 # :) 14.08.15 # hrm. might not do the job. that probably won't detect someone using something*10.0; 14.11.19 # there are few places where it's used 14.11.23 # just grep for float and go from there 14.11.28 # mmm. 14.11.39 # * HCl just thought of two other coding projects on his list that he could do first 14.11.40 # you can also detect the floating point emulation calls by using objdump 14.12.33 # XD XD 14.13.31 # anime is great :3 14.13.38 # * HCl goes to work on his coding stuff 14.13.39 # haha, weeeelll 14.13.42 # some of it is 14.16.56 Quit lostlogic ("Going to the moon") 14.19.15 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l03v-34-202.d1.club-internet.fr) 14.19.52 Nick tvelocity[away] is now known as tvelocity (~tony@ipa138.2.tellas.gr) 14.21.18 Join Patr3ck_ [0] (~patr3ck@pD9ECF85A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.21.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.23.44 # B4gder: plain ssh? 14.27.48 Quit Patr3ck (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.29.02 Join Chamois [0] (~Chamois@champigny-5-82-226-182-23.fbx.proxad.net) 14.29.59 # yes, ssh is vpn enough for me 14.31.13 # B4gder: do you tunnel everything through the ssh connection? 14.31.31 # yes, at least the stuff I want to tunnel 14.32.14 Quit ashridah (Remote closed the connection) 14.32.16 Join Lost-ash [0] (ashridah@220-253-122-31.VIC.netspace.net.au) 14.40.54 # ssh is nice 14.41.27 # but stuff like ftp is not so easy to tunnel via ssh, is it? 14.41.37 # no 14.41.44 # but I don't need to tunnel ftp 14.42.11 # Looks like OpenVPN is what we're looking for 14.42.22 # if you don't do ppp over ssh perhaps 14.43.04 # pppssh! :) 14.43.20 # well, pptp is basically that, only with worse security 14.43.29 # pppssh(tm) - The Official beer opener sound \o/ 14.43.58 # i need a .mod to test.. 14.44.10 # HCl: you're working on mikmod support? :O 14.44.11 # never mind 14.44.18 # dwihno: we have dumb, not mikmod 14.44.35 # and no o.o. its just some other software that i have that suddenly seems to have gotten mod suppost 14.44.38 # and i want to try it out 14.45.03 # could someone build the actual CVS with the grayscale patch and send it to me? would be very nice! 14.45.24 # :) 14.47.21 Nick Lost-ash is now known as ashridah (ashridah@220-253-122-31.VIC.netspace.net.au) 14.48.22 Join lolo-laptop [0] (~lostlogic@68.251.84.226) 14.50.09 Join nocturnal_moxie [0] (~francisco@adsl-67-118-10-214.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 14.50.17 Part nocturnal_moxie 14.50.54 # could someone build the CVS with grayscale, mp3, and ogg support and ship it my way ;) 14.51.32 Join Byron [0] (byron@63.77.203.136) 14.51.35 # hello 14.51.47 # is there a lock or hold button on the archos 14.52.02 # I put it in my pocket and then accidentally shut it off 14.52.52 # Byron: There's a lock feature for the wps (only). It's described in the rockbox manual 14.53.24 # wps? 14.53.42 # However, this can't protect against poweroff, because poweroff is a hardware feature 14.54.15 # what's the wps? 14.54.26 # We Pressed Stuff? 14.54.27 # LOL 14.54.36 # While playing screen 14.54.42 # oh 14.54.59 # so no protection against accidentally stopping a recording? 14.55.33 # no 14.55.39 # Drats! 14.55.53 # I suppose that's not something that could be built in later? 14.57.55 # hardwarewise? sure 14.58.19 # you can modify the hardware in any way you wish 14.58.48 # the software too in fact ;-) 14.58.53 # hehehe 14.59.15 # but the software can't protect against accidental shutoff 14.59.18 # but a "HOLD BUTTON" is not something that can be written into a daily update? 14.59.45 # Byron: yes we can do that, but we can't stop the OFF key 15.00.03 # you have to hold down the off key for a long time don't you? 15.00.08 # to get it to shut down? 15.00.12 # 1 second for me 15.00.22 # Byron: which model do you have? 15.00.33 # fm recorder 20 15.00.37 # aha 15.01.10 # that's another story 15.01.28 # then we can add a keylock for the recording 15.01.37 # if you made one of the buttons on the top be a "hold" button that would only go into that mode if you held it down for 3 seconds, then you could have all of the other buttons be ignored until that hold button was held in for another 3 seconds 15.02.06 # Byron: i'm with you, that should be possible 15.02.12 # cool 15.02.52 # now for the next thing on my list... could you write my code to make my crappy headphone jack stop crackeling :-) 15.03.01 # of course .-) 15.03.54 # I bought my own archos on e-bay after borrowing a friends for a month... 6 months in Byron Time, and loved it... but the one that I got has a flakey headphone jack... d'oh! 15.04.06 # that can be repaired 15.04.13 # hmm. 15.04.30 # Yeah, but since I'm almost totally blind I'm not gonna make the repair myself 15.04.35 # hehe 15.04.41 # going to probably take it to a friend of mine and see what he can do. 15.04.46 # do so 15.05.30 # BTW, as far as I can tell the archos has the firmware in the flash now, can I deleate the rockbox folder on my unit? 15.05.48 # no, don't do that 15.05.49 # byron: no, that is used 15.05.53 # okay 15.05.57 # won't do that 15.06.35 # so when an update comes out with the new lock feature, do I need to reload the rockbox firmware into flash or can I just replace the old rockbox folder with the current one? 15.10.43 # depends on if it's flashed or not 15.11.02 # is the archos mas mp3 encoder decent quality? 15.11.39 # Yes, it's been flashed 15.11.52 # then you will probably need to reflash it 15.12.02 # ah 15.12.10 # .rockbox dir only contains fonts, plugins and such 15.12.24 # makes sense 15.13.53 # preglow: and the .playlist_control file 15.14.10 # which is needed for playback 15.15.09 # LinusN? have you commited the plugin api change? 15.17.15 # hmmm. 15.17.20 # will we support .oxm? :P 15.17.46 # (.xm with ogg as its sample format) 15.19.10 # HCl: if you want to 15.19.40 # LinusN: do you implement the mp3-test-code like the /sample.wav code? 15.19.50 # we'd have to devise a way for codecs to be loadable by other codecs, but... 15.19.50 # we'll support everything people write code for 15.20.44 # HCl: actually, it might not even be a problem, the loader part of the codecs should never require any iram, so loading another codec within the loader part of another codec should be possible 15.21.45 # but i will not be the one coding it, heh 15.22.28 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15.23.34 # Shagnar: what do you mean "like the /sample.wav code"? 15.23.51 # I think he want's it in the debug menu... 15.24.10 # if you implement the mp3-test like the wav-test (yes, in debug menu) 15.24.21 # no, this is for real 15.24.33 # press play on an mp3 file 15.24.47 # nice :) 15.24.57 # but it is not in cvs yet 15.25.23 # ah, okay. will it be implemented soon? (sorry, i know you hate these type of questions) 15.25.38 # as soon as i find the time to work on it 15.25.56 # hehe okay :) 15.28.20 # and thisone: LinusN? have you commited the plugin api change? 15.28.31 # nope 15.28.37 # i'm at work too you know 15.28.41 # ah ok 15.29.36 Join bobTHC [0] (~foo@l05v-5-61.d1.club-internet.fr) 15.32.30 Part LinusN 15.35.06 # are you guys trying to support ogg somehow? 15.35.21 # I thought that couldn't be done 15.35.36 # it's opensource afaik 15.35.39 # so it should be possible 15.36.02 # thought the hardware couldn't handle it... but if it can be done then... AWSOME! 15.36.10 # Byron: he means iriver.. 15.36.13 # not archos. 15.36.14 # yes 15.36.14 # ooh 15.36.15 # damn 15.36.17 # okay 15.36.18 # archos can't and won't do ogg. 15.36.18 # sorry, forgot that 15.36.23 Join F1^Aison [0] (~hans@80.254.166.181) 15.36.26 # heehhe 15.36.29 # no worries, i was about to say the same thing till byron went awesome xD 15.36.38 # and i realized he asked an archos question earlier 15.36.43 # * Byron is tempted to get an iriver, the iriver has a mic-in 15.36.47 # and the archos does not 15.36.49 # archos has a hardware decoder... 15.36.51 # not just a mic in 15.37.00 # optical in too 15.37.19 # and iriver does it in software... that's why we can decode ogg 15.37.29 # HCl: for the H1xx series only. 15.37.34 # H3xx doesn't have optical iirc 15.37.44 Join b0bTHC [0] (~foo@l06v-9-63.d1.club-internet.fr) 15.37.47 # I hooked a mic up to a preamp and then plugged the preamp into line in and than stuffed the whole thing into a fanny pack 15.39.14 # I've been wondering if one of those radio shack hearing devices might work... it's a little box that has a built in mic and headphone jack, use a patch cord and plug it into the line-in 15.39.34 # they're only 9 bucks at radio shack and will probably work 15.40.41 # but yeah, iriver has a) a built in mic, b) a line in jack c) a mic-in jack (aka, the line in jack, with a software selectable gain thinggy) d) optical in 15.41.27 # and e) ogg playback :D 15.42.08 Quit Aison (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.42.15 # Wow, that's nice 15.42.19 # too bad I'm piss poor 15.42.38 # * Byron starts scouring ebay 15.42.50 # too bad H1xx's are getting harder to get 15.43.02 # ashridah: 3xx has optical in only, i think... not even sure of that 15.43.04 # they're also quite expensive, they say 15.43.08 # it has no optical 15.43.13 # only h1x0 has optical 15.43.18 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15.43.30 # nobody uses optical... 15.43.36 Nick F1^Aison is now known as Aison` (~hans@80.254.166.181) 15.43.40 # i do, occasionally 15.43.43 # ah 15.43.51 # but no, not much 15.44.03 # I've tested it once... 15.44.11 # but the point is kind of gone with the h1x0 15.44.15 Nick b0bTHC is now known as bobTHC (~foo@l06v-9-63.d1.club-internet.fr) 15.44.19 # as it can't bloody use proper sample rates 15.44.45 # ah 15.44.55 # only 44.1 ? 15.45.07 # we can use two optical cables to do a game link between irivers! :P 15.45.08 # and 22.05, 11.025, etc 15.45.28 # preglow: linus said the optical was connected to the cpu, so shouldn't we be able to get it to 48 ? 15.45.44 # aside from the sound chip not supporting 48khz 15.45.44 # no 15.45.49 # why not? 15.46.11 # ahh, it might in some kind of optical out only mode 15.46.25 # but the iriver firmware resamples everything to 44.1 15.46.25 Join Sirwa2 [0] (~ikke@f246074.upc-f.chello.nl) 15.46.28 # HCl: gamelinking would be funny 15.46.38 # but not much people have irivers... 15.46.51 # i know :P 15.46.54 # it would be totally pointless 15.46.58 # aside from me and markun being able to link 15.47.05 # and i know one other guy on the university who has one 15.47.09 # but i don't think he has rockbox 15.47.46 # I really hate the internal mic on the archos because of all of the hard drive noise, how does the iriver deal with the hard-drive noise? 15.47.58 # well.... you hear it 15.48.09 # so it's not really great 15.48.17 # that sucks, but hey... atleast there is an mic-in 15.48.24 # yeah 15.49.14 # watashi wa baka desu.. 15.49.25 # * B4gder giggles at Christi's mail 15.49.47 # i need to disable the digest version.. 15.50.02 # haha 15.50.07 # how politically uncorrect of linus 15.50.24 # he's such a rude person ;-) 15.59.39 # * t0mas wonders what he missed? 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19.26.21 # not much.. stayed up all night, slept all day u.U 19.28.21 # microsoft should improve their msdn search engine... 19.28.36 # can anyone tell me how to get a directory listing in windows? 19.28.41 # s/ their msdn search engine// 19.28.53 # ghehe 19.29.46 # HCl: there's a great site for that things... 19.31.00 # which? 19.31.10 # google... 19.31.22 # *forces a smile* 19.31.25 # that doesn't help t0mas. 19.31.51 # http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=299748 19.31.55 # googled up... 19.32.09 # i used google at first 19.32.17 # but it just gave msdn as first 3 hits 19.32.49 # hm... 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.50.26 Quit Sucka ("a bird in the bush is worth two in your house") 19.55.30 Join Sucka [0] (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-210-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 19.58.47 Quit TCK- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.59.37 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 20.12.09 Quit thegeek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.14.40 Quit _Lucretia_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.21.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.23.15 # boo! 20.23.26 # * preglow jumps 20.23.42 # * Shagnar jumps, too 20.23.59 # you landed on my *foot* 20.24.07 # Ow! 20.24.22 # haha! 20.24.37 # cgi:irc has insaned 20.24.38 # I typed those lines in reverse order 20.27.16 # o_O? 20.27.28 Join _Lucretia_ [0] (~munkee@abyss2.demon.co.uk) 20.33.42 Join stevenm [0] (~steve@stevenm-router.student.umd.edu) 20.33.53 # hello stevenm :) 20.34.01 # Hello Shagnar 20.34.07 # something about jumping on feet ? 20.34.10 # hi 20.34.23 # helo 20.35.02 # something about jumping on feet ? <= what do you mean? ^^ 20.36.03 # Just checked IRC log. Saw something about preglow landing on rasher's foot 20.36.07 # I figured this was too good to miss 20.36.10 # just jokes 20.36.14 # :) 20.36.22 # Yeah! FAT shortname NTRES case support is working. Adds only 80 bytes of code size :-) 20.36.39 # nice 20.38.11 # So now the question is whether to commit all my fat.c changes, commit this part first, or hold it back for later full-commit. Zagor? 20.40.00 # i hate it when i'm scared to run my own code x.x; 20.40.10 # what have you coded? 20.42.59 Join thegeek [0] (na@ti521110a080-1991.bb.online.no) 20.48.33 # just a big block with a lot of pointer arithmetic... 20.48.39 # and frees and mallocs and.. 20.48.45 # the scariest bit is it hasn't crashed yet. 20.52.05 # there we go. 20.52.08 # ;/ 20.53.46 Quit stevenm ("Leaving") 20.57.42 # Strange... I've done what I think is a simplification of the source, but the binary size increased somewhat ?? 20.58.02 # check the asm output? 20.58.10 # maybe gcc didn't understand your simplification? 20.58.13 # amiconn: get with it! 20.58.58 # Well, I had the following: 20.59.43 # (better not pasting this) 20.59.50 # fffft 20.59.51 # link? 21.01.06 # i gotta hand it to microsoft, their runtime stack corruption detection works great. 21.01.19 # ? 21.01.38 # my program reported that it crashed cause the stack got corrupted around the variable buf. 21.01.43 # and it was completely right. 21.01.57 # lol 21.02.00 # lol 21.05.42 Join pfavr [0] (~Peter_Fav@213.237.46.232.adsl.ron.worldonline.dk) 21.17.52 # ahh. its so nice when everything you've coded comes together and works 21.18.11 # indeed 21.19.55 # t0mas: gcc does some very strange thing with my code, I checked the asm 21.20.01 # * rasher prods LyX 21.22.19 # * preglow looks forward to gcc4 21.23.42 # hah 21.23.45 # it's out, actually 21.24.11 # it is? o.o. ohyea. 21.24.17 # i remember having it on ubuntu.. 21.24.17 # It's in ubuntu 21.24.17 # (breezy) 21.24.53 # huh 21.25.04 # this is new.. like.. a week tops 21.25.37 # gcc4 was released just now 21.25.52 # the breezy gcc is a prerelease 21.26.22 # ah 21.26.26 # adventurous 21.26.44 Quit Zagor (Remote closed the connection) 21.27.41 # i'm going breezy very soon 21.27.59 # i hate not having a ton of packages ready for update every day 21.28.02 # there's not much to see 21.28.02 # yet 21.28.12 # well, there's gcc4 21.28.27 # i hate bugs.. 21.28.27 # What's to be expected from gcc4? 21.28.28 # yeah, it updates a *lot* 21.28.28 # yes, there's that 21.28.35 # tree-ssa should do wonders 21.28.44 # slightly faster compilation 21.28.52 # faster g I think 21.29.02 # gplusplus 21.29.09 # >< 21.29.25 # amiconn: but yeah, there's a whole new optimizing layer 21.29.26 # maybe I should just.. 21.30.08 Join rashums [0] (rasher@zork.zork.net) 21.30.36 # yes, I should 21.30.47 Quit rasher ("CGI:IRC 0.5.4 (2004/01/29)") 21.31.07 # bah 21.31.11 # * preglow goes to do the dishes 21.31.25 Nick rashums is now known as rasher (rasher@zork.zork.net) 21.31.43 # still lagged like hell, but at least now I'm using a real client 21.36.46 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@ipa138.2.tellas.gr) 21.37.51 # naming too many variables "buf" creates problems XD 21.40.02 Join StrathAFK [0] (~mike@dgvlwinas01pool0-a202.wi.tds.net) 21.45.01 Nick Sucka is now known as Sucka`away (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-210-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 21.58.12 # yo, rashy, do i need to jump through hoops to make breezy run here now? 21.58.38 Quit Strath (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.58.53 # I just did s/hoary/breezy/ in /etc/apt/sources.list 21.58.55 # and that was it 21.59.07 # any programs that are broken? 21.59.22 # not for me :) 21.59.34 # it's more or less identical to hoary release yet 21.59.36 # except gcc4 21.59.52 # cool, i think i'll try that later 22.00.07 # and take gcc4 for a spin 22.00.11 # is gcc 3.4 there as well? 22.01.15 Quit pfavr ("ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.7/20050420]") 22.01.39 # sure 22.01.49 # it's just that the 22.02.02 # 'gcc' package installs gcc4.0 instead of 3.4 now 22.18.26 # * amiconn is trying to build sh-elf-gcc 4.0.0 on cygwin 22.21.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.21.43 # hehee 22.21.46 # funfunfun 22.23.17 # amiconn: whatever happened to your linux? 22.23.35 # little Question: is it possible to build a rbx with the actual viewers (midi2wave, etc) AND using grayscale (jpeg-viewer) ? or just older viewers+grayscale ? 22.23.38 # It's running well... occasionally 22.25.47 # so you mean sometimes freezes, but no "harder" problems? 22.26.09 # No, I merely mean that I don't run it often 22.26.26 # Shagnar: sure its possible. 22.26.37 # Shagnar: just grab the grayscale patch and apply it against current cvs. 22.26.57 # i've no software to build it on my machine (windows...) 22.26.59 # I have a laptop, running WinXP pro. For things that can be done in Linux only, I have a virtual machine running debian 22.27.03 # ah. 22.27.24 # well, i just updated the grayrockbox a few days ago 22.27.27 # i'm not gonna do it every day 22.27.39 # would be very very nice! 22.28.17 # Shagnar: you can build it on windows 22.28.36 # Whoa, gcc 4 sources uncompress to almost 200 MB 22.28.48 # it's gotten rather large, yes 22.28.51 # hehe 22.28.55 # 200mb of hand-typed text. heh. 22.29.02 # the world's largest CVS repository they use to say 22.29.12 # * HCl goes to make sake 22.29.44 # that's crazy.. that's like 5 times the linux kernel source ^_^ 22.29.50 # Bagder but i neet lot of software for it? .. /me doesn't know programming in C very well.. (including building the software) 22.30.22 # Shagnar: go with bluechip's devkit, its the smallest one that still builds rockbox 22.31.38 # Maybe I should time the build.... just started building binutils 22.32.08 # it doesn't take very long really 22.32.39 # Iirc the last time I tried that (gcc 3.4.x) it took a total of > 1 hour 22.32.44 # (binutils + gcc) 22.32.53 # oh 22.33.21 # doesn't take too long here 22.33.25 # but then again, this machine is pretty leet 22.34.44 # It doesn't mean that my machine is slow; it's the same reason why compiling rockbox takes some 3 minutes in cygwin, but only 1 minute *on the very same machine*, *even in a virtual machine* under Linux 22.34.58 # haha 22.35.01 # cygwin is dead slow when it comes to file operations 22.35.02 # oh, you're compiling in cygwin :) 22.35.04 # that is kind of strange 22.35.13 # also when it comes to launching programs 22.35.29 # Probably slowest is running shell scripts 22.36.07 # There is a significant delay before displaying the language choices in rockbox' /tools/configure 22.36.23 # hah 22.36.46 # yes, configuring under cygwin is a nightmare 22.36.52 # oh, how i dislike cygwin 22.36.58 # the real thing is so much nicer 22.37.20 Quit Harpy (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.37.20 # the only thing I'd use cygwin for is xorg 22.37.34 # it's a fairly decent x server for windows 22.39.06 # yeah, that's what i use cygwin for as well 22.39.25 # * t0mas is away: zzZzzZzzzzz 22.42.35 # * HCl wonders how much speedup gcc 4 would give on iriver.. 22.42.50 # x.cygwin.com seems fairly dated 22.42.56 # not to mention a year old 22.43.10 # * HCl shivers at the badness of rocky 2 which is on tv.. 22.43.22 # Haha, I'm watching Under Siege! 22.43.31 # it just finished. 22.43.42 # i don't understand how anyone can praise boxing as a sport 22.43.50 # Steven Seagal is crazy-bad 22.45.11 # erika eleniak is the best thing about that movie, i'm afraid 22.46.20 Join msychk [0] (~44654cdd@labb.contactor.se) 22.46.57 # anyone want to answer a quick question for me? 22.47.02 # sur 22.47.02 # e 22.47.03 # please :) 22.47.06 # dunno if i can answer though 22.47.33 # i just got 2.4 for the recorder and was wondering why rockbox suggests "shutting down" rather than holding the off button 22.47.35 Nick Sucka`away is now known as Sucka (~NNSCRIPT@host81-156-210-120.range81-156.btcentralplus.com) 22.48.35 # i mean, if i hurt the recorder, wouldnt the archos firmware and/or hardware not let you power down immediately and force you to "shut down"? 22.49.35 # the safe shutdown is just that... safe 22.49.42 # you don't have to 22.50.47 # Bagder where can i get that devkit from? 22.50.48 # i know that i dont have to and i do sometimes forget and hold the power button down, but.... 22.51.31 # Shagnar: try asking google, I don't remember 22.51.32 # what exactly makes it "safe"? this implies that the other way is "not safe" and somehow hurts the recorder. is that so? 22.51.37 Nick tvelocity is now known as tvelocity[away] (~tony@ipa138.2.tellas.gr) 22.51.53 Join Aison [0] (~hans@zux166-181.adsl.green.ch) 22.52.16 # msychk: it makes it safe because it saves data and stops the disk 22.52.29 # preglow: haha, she's credited as "Pretty Young Girl" in ET :) 22.53.16 # rasher: building & installing binutils took ~20 minutes 22.53.30 # that's not bad 22.53.38 # ..started building gcc4 now... 22.53.41 # ok, i figured that was all it was for....wish there was a more technical answer out there but i guess that will do 22.53.41 # keeping cygwin in mind 22.54.17 # msychk: search the mailing list archives and you shall find 22.55.51 # will do - gotta go for now but ill be back to find the answer...thanks! 22.55.58 Quit msychk ("CGI:IRC") 22.56.59 Quit lolo-laptop ("Client exiting") 23.00.43 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.00.52 # * preglow decides he has earned a beer 23.01.16 # sake! 23.01.27 # scottish ale this time 23.01.28 # come to the darksideeeee 23.01.31 # :( 23.01.33 # we have cookies! 23.01.38 # why, i like sake 23.01.44 # but it doesn't beat beer 23.01.49 # yush it does :x 23.01.51 # nothing on this planet beats beer 23.02.01 # * HCl doesn't like most beer. 23.02.02 # nothing liquid, at least 23.02.23 # * preglow knows of just one beer among the countless ones he has tasted that he didn't like 23.02.26 # heh 23.02.36 # and that was the sour one i had about two weeks ago 23.02.36 # was it named heineken? :P 23.02.40 # haha 23.02.44 # heineken doesn't taste anything 23.02.55 # heineken = catpee :P 23.02.56 # is bluechip still in the rockbox team? 23.03.21 # frozen gnat's urine 23.03.24 # * HCl goes to search for his cat 23.03.29 # there is no set team 23.03.33 # we are all in the team 23.04.00 # yeah :] 23.04.37 # well, didn't find anything else as some irc logs, but, I hope it 'll be implemented soon :] 23.04.52 # what would be implemented? 23.05.19 # the grayscale 23.05.55 # ah, yes that would be nice 23.07.36 # bluechip never worked on grayscale 23.07.38 # markun did 23.09.24 # he says he's not very interested in grayscale and rather works on unicode support 23.09.33 # so its up for grabs 23.09.42 # probably much like rockboy 23.12.40 # if i could programm that, i would do so... but i only know (visual)basic and TCL :-( 23.14.10 # :X 23.14.16 # time to learn C! :p 23.14.21 # i can give you some links :P 23.14.41 # gda.utp.edu.co/pub/libros_programacion/The_C_Programming_Language_by_K\&R/ 23.14.43 # :P 23.15.02 # Not Found 23.15.02 # The requested URL /pub/libros_programacion/The_C_Programming_Language_by_K\&R/ was not found on this server. 23.15.03 # hmmm 23.15.04 # is that really such a good book to learn c from? 23.15.04 # :P 23.15.06 # yea 23.15.09 # its the extra slash 23.15.10 # delete it 23.15.17 # http://gda.utp.edu.co/pub/libros_programacion/The_C_Programming_Language_by_K&R/ 23.15.33 # rasher: its said to be "the" book 23.17.20 Join tuvo [0] (~5430592b@labb.contactor.se) 23.17.57 # hey shagnar, was looking at the log, here is the rockbox devkit: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm 23.19.14 # yeah thx a lot 23.19.14 # :) 23.19.35 # goodnight 23.19.37 # i'll try to learn it a bit, perhaps i can work with you guys one day :] 23.19.42 Part tuvo 23.19.44 # good night! 23.19.46 # ... to late 23.19.47 # :p 23.19.56 # read the book,its supposed to be good 23.21.07 # :) 23.23.02 # * HCl goes to sleep 23.23.11 # * Shagnar too 23.23.21 # :p 23.23.34 # well, good night to everybody. keep on Rock(box)ing! 23.24.42 Quit Shagnar ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )") 23.27.43 Join amiconn_ [0] (~jens@pD9E7EDE5.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.27.48 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.27.49 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (~jens@pD9E7EDE5.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.31.00 # Bleh, gcc4 build errored out :-( 23.31.09 # Assembler messages: 23.31.10 # Error: Invalid argument to --isa option: sh2a 23.33.12 # what kind of platform is sh? 23.33.12 Join ashridah [0] (ashridah@220-253-121-184.VIC.netspace.net.au) 23.33.25 # preglow: ? 23.33.47 # like, for gcc 23.33.49 # primary, secondary 23.34.02 # they have only verified it works properly on primary and secondary platforms, mainly 23.36.12 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@node-4024215a.mdw.onnet.us.uu.net) 23.37.15 # preglow: Hmm, I can't seem to find this info 23.38.12 # nor can i 23.38.43 # mudflap looks kind of cool 23.39.14 # -ftree-vectorize! 23.40.49 # will be fun to see how well gcc does at using sse 23.44.03 # * t0mas is going to sleep.. 23.44.09 # have to go to school tomorrow :( 23.44.21 # damn... school after two days of work sucks 23.45.20 # practically finished... but I still have to hang arount there... being borded with some stupid educational videos :( 23.45.45 Quit t0mas ("good night :)") 23.49.33 Quit Chamois (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client") 23.49.59 # preglow: If I understand some googled-up hints correctly, I may need cvs binutils 23.50.25 # bah, another binutils compile run :( 23.51.22 # what binutils did you use now? 23.51.25 # is 2.16 out yet? 23.51.43 # I used 2.15, and there is no 2.16 on the gnu ftp 23.53.16 # they're about to branch 2.16 off any day now, i think